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the current state of pc gaming is so shit that early access survival game valheim is considered "good game" and goes on to sell 3m copies

if you think it's a good game, that's your subjective opinion but it's OBJECTIVELY shit, but if you're having fun then that's good for you, there's people out there who still play neopets and have fun... still doesn't mean it's not shit

reality is, new pc games are mostly shit, there's not much out there to play - unless you're playing older games

it's just another flavor of the month game like fall guys, among us, phasmophobia, genshin impact, etc.

tldr; state of pc gaming is a joke
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>>545559772
>people are having fun
>reeeeee
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>>545559772
post your fav game, picture of yourself and the age you lost your virginity if you want me to listen to you
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>>545559772
>survival
Why do you keep parroting this?
There's no survival component in Valheim.
You don't starve, you don't die of dehydration, you don't die of lack of sleep, monsters can't kill you unless you're literally afking, you can't drown and you can't get killed because PVP is disabled.
Like why?
Survival what?
If Valheim is survival then so are Terraria and Minecraft.
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>>545560105
Even Minecraft has a hunger system.
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>>545560209
Which is ironic because you can actually die of starvation in Minecraft, meanwhile that doesn't happen in Valheim.
Your point being?
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>>545559772
you fool, its A SCAM
something is going on behind the scenes, steam is jacking up the numbers or people with lots of money are doing a maneuver

SCREENCAP THIS
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>>545560478
>it cant be real, it's a scam, steam is fixing the match
lol.
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>>545560478
take your meds
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>>545559772
Go back cs 1.6 or whatever lame old ass game still gets you hard. God so pathetic
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>>545560478
Ive been coming here for over a decade and though I realized long ago that this place has been home to bottom of the barrel opinions for a long time, somehow, the bottom keeps falling out, and someone comes along and reminds me of why I only come here to call people niggers and not actually discuss anything.

Nigger.
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>>545559772
Pc gaming is dead since 2010. Pc kiddies buy any shitty indie or early access game their shill streamer tells them to buy. If they had games they wouldnt have to watch streamers at all
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>>545560743
>he doesn't have 2+ monitors
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>>545560528
>>545560558
>>545560738
disgusting sheep, do you really believe generic survival game #456123723 can pull those player numbers with zero marketing budget? educate yourselves
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>>545560105
>>survival
yes if you die you don't survive that's why its a survival game
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>>545561558
nigger
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>>545559772
>NOOOOOOO STOP HAVING FUN!!!
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>My opinion is objective
>Yours is subjective
You can't be older than 16
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>>545561558
yeah
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>>545561558
Thats actually really sad anon. Like, you depress me with the knowledge that people think like this
>only AAA is allowed to be popular, otherwise its just marketing
Minecraft was made by one guy who posted here and then it blew up, leading to it being sold to Microsoft and making it a household name. People dont know what they want till its given to them, sometimes a thing can just come out and its exactly what people wanted. Not always, but sometimes.
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>>545559772
STOP HAVING FUN GUYS WE'RE SUPPOSED TO NOT HAVE FUN AND HATE GAMES
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>>545563008
Why argue with someone obviously attached to his opinion
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>>545559772
>the current state of pc gaming
>>545561558
>generic survival game #456123723

As opposed to having a generic copypasted 3rd person cinematic action game with crafting like on consoles? Show me a single fucking AAA/console game that at least pretends to try something different. Like copypasted 3rd person cinematic action game, but entirely underwater like subnautica? Where the fuck are the actual non-copypasted AAA/console games?
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>>545559772
>fun game sells
>/v/ recoils
>poorfags bitch

Just another month on /v/
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>>545559772
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>>545559772

4chan in a nutshell, kick and scream about every popular release even if it's good. The game has building, survival, crafting, combat, randomly generated worlds. It's the best of Minecraft, Conan, and Rust
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another jealous bitter faggot who didn't make his millions with his easy little game. two TWO (2) devs made this game. what's your excuse? i'm listening
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I thought it was basically co-op wow with autistic building mechanics.
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>>545560105
In valheim if you don't eat over half the mobs will one-shot you.
If you don't have stamina, you can't block or parry as much and thus you'll get hit and one-shot.
It's what the shitposters don't want you to know.
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>>545563289
Because if noone does then it looks like they are among friends that agree with them. That mentality has ruined this place, where people pretending to be retarded has drawn actual retards thinking that they are in good company.
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>>545563759
Just because you have to use supports doesn't make it autistic.
However that does make it a fun mental exercise.
What could we add to increase the autism?
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>>545561558
>marketing budget
>muh corperate dev budget
>muh massive dev teams
>muh 110$ release day cost

Get with the times. Fun sells because word of mouth sell games now. Why do you think big game make SJW issues out of their game? So people talk about it and market it for them. Sometimes a game is fun and people like to talk about how fun it is.
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>>545559772
>the current state of pc gaming is so shit that early access survival game valheim is considered "good game" and goes on to sell 3m copies
That point works perfectly for old games.
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>>545563918
do you actually believe this game that has been made before multiple times, from a studio with 0 background that came out of nowhere can sell 3 million copies in 3 weeks, have a concurrent playerbase of 500k and remain OVERWHELMINGLY POSITIVE in reviews naturally?
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>>545563792
The point of saying there's no hunger bar means you can do shit like go afk or build in peace and then when you actually venture out can eat or whatever, but if you struggle to survive on 25hp with any armor you're shit. Parry into counter is a one-shot and mobs do 3hp of of 25 unless you go 15 miles south to another biome but at that point you're still good if you just don't get hit and block ranged attacks
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>be chud
>have low IQ and are easily manipulated by streamers and what other chuds tell you to play
>wtf the games are bad

No shit, chud. Try not being a dumb chud. PC is a VR machine now.
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>>545564148
Fortnite use to be a dead game and overnight became the biggest game every made. Minecrafts developer use to post updates here as the game was being made before it took off
and became a household name too. You think you know but you dont.
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>>545564148
don't care didn't ask plus its fun, stay paranoid
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>>545564267
There is no amount of "good" in parrying fuling attacks.
You've clearly not played the game and are shitting out of your mouth right now.
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Why does this game make people here seethe so much? So what if its fotm, any game that can keep my attention for a solid month in this day and age is a good game in my book. It can only get better too, provided that the devs deliver.
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>>545564334
>PC is a VR machine now.
You didn't have to hit them with such a devastating truth bomb, anon.
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>>545564404
mouse 2 when arm swing to me ez parry
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>>545559772
>if you think it's a good game, that's your subjective opinion but it's OBJECTIVELY shit, but if you're having fun then that's good for you, there's people out there who still play neopets and have fun... still doesn't mean it's not shit
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>>545564148
yup. Happened plenty of times. Learning from mistake and improving the formula is how you grow.
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although the game looks like unityjank on surface it has decent art direction and code doesnt seem half bad either. it really looks like a cool pet project than a greedy cash grab.
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>>545564148
Literally happened to Minecraft. It was slower but was still a literally who dev with zero marketing besides notch posting on /v/
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>>545559772
Cant tell if this is bait. But I've always enjoyed good survival games like Terraria, and Valheim has given me a similar experience, just shorter. Its also a technical marvel showing what can be done with low poly gfx and a good art style. If you are arguing that PC games are so shit that something like this rises to the top, then youre right, the bulk of games are in fact shit, which is why something fun like this was a breath of fresh air
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does this game run on PCSX2
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>>545564334
trying too hard
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>>545560478
It's not a scam, I can see that it sold that much. It is however one of the most successful shilling and astroturfing campaigns for a game I have ever seen.
>shitty pixel graphics
>shity blur
>shitty bloom and vaseline on the screen
>shitty chromatic aberration
>/v/ omg looks kino
>doubt
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>>545564148
So do you think there's this grand conspiracy set up just to make a game by two unknown swedes successful? Please take your meds, anon.
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>>545559772
The bar has been lowered so low by the zoomer generation. Remember, these are the twats that truly believe that Fall Guys is the best game ever, and Red Dead 2 is literal garbage. They have no taste, no dignity, and their entire existence has been parroting trends they read online (or more likely watch on youtube) as their own opinion.
There is no saving the industry with these dipshits rowing the boat.
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>>545561558
honestly it feels like they only started marketing once they broke through and could afford it. There was no ads for this last month
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>>545559772
I think what you meant is that PC gaming is so varied that random indie games are able to shine above the mediocre AAA shite.

The real issue we should discuss here is why you think that's a bad thing.
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>>545564148
this only happens in the music industry
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>>545559772
It's a good game.
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>>545564467
it will be the truth when vr gets more than one good game
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>>545565207
t. hasnt played the game
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>>545565453
There is also iRacing.
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>>545565093
>astroturfing
I didn't even know abbout the game until one of my friends mentioned it. I bought it because its $20, now we have dedicated server with around 8 people that get on every night, all irl friends. I havent had this much fun in years.
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>>545559772
>I post on /v/ therefore I must every video game in existence
grow up kid
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>>545565461
but I have. It's just minecraft with a viking theme, and less blocky graphics.
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Yea this game is pure dogshit. I got baited into trying it with a friend and we both quit after one hour and got a refund. I can't believe there are idiots praising this shit game. It doesn't even run good, it struggles to keep 60 fps what a piace of trash.
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>>545565453
>VR gets
VR is just a peripheral like headtracker. It's as stupid as asking how many good games did headtracker get.
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>>545560738
well you like shitty early access survival game meaning you don't have any moral high ground
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Been playing with a solid crew every night. It's so much fun. We just over prepped ourselves for second boss and ended up killing him pretty quickly.

Taking your time, setting goals, with a solid group of friends makes this game fun as fuck.
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>>545559772
Had more fun in valheim than any "AAA" title released by sony or the like.

The reality is the PC is the only platform the makes videogames anymore. The rest take themselves way too seriously and only release cinematic movie games with some kind of "message" that is usually thinly veiled propaganda.
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>>545567203
Morals here are established by retards.
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>its shit
>its shit
>its shit
Why do I still come here when its just 16 year olds who have brains too underdeveloped to form their thoughts into comprehensive criticism? I refunded this game because i thought the loop was boring and involved too much downtime, enemies were too easy, and it was very buggy. Is that so hard, you little faggot?
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Is anyone gonna make a server?
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>sailing along the coast exploring
>suddenly its night
>suddenly its dense fog and I can't see shit
>run into a giant fucken rock
>hop off to push my boat
>a one star troll is there
>a gang of greynigs are there
>troll hits me into the water
>grey drops into the water and prevents me from reaching the ladder of my boat
>drown
One of the most sudden deaths I've ever had in gaming. Now I get to don my old bronze gear and hope my body didn't disappear.
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Is there a way to cultivate birch trees? I haven't had any luck with them dropping seeds.
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>>545559772
Saying something is OBJECTIVELY x doesn’t make your opinion anymore valid anon.
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>>545559772
>tldr; state of pc gaming is a joke
Exactly. Thanks to Jim Ryan PCfags will taste great PS exclusives now too.
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>>545567203>>545567203
Im not about to defend the survival genre anon, it is shit. Exceptions are not the rule, I like THIS game, not survival games in general, and early access can fuck off, but at least it cost next to nothing to buy it. If I stopped playing right now I got my moneys worth and enjoyed it. Ive paid for lunches that cost more than this and dont even remember what they were.
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>>545559772
HAHAHA
Watch this game get a console port and it will be on top of the charts with CoD and fifa. It's just the type of players who follow latest trends
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>>545568597
Nope. Lots of birch trees in the Plains later on though.
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>>545561558
People enjoy these kinds of games, that's why they keep getting made
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>>545559772
game made for co-op play makes friendless /v/cels seethe, more at 11
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>>545559772
Every xbox and soon sony exclusive is on pc. How shit is console gaming if pc fags rather play this trash? Makes you think, doesnt it?
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>>545559772
Valheim isn't just your cookie cutter "early access survival game", because it's actually a really good game. Not only is every world different because of the procedural generation, but instead of starting over every single time you have a character that you progresses seperately as well. This is really smart because you keep progressing even when switching worlds and it basically eliminates the problem of joining a world mid game while having no gear at all and getting steam rolled by enemies. The crafting and exploration is also done brilliantly with different biomes, status effects and enemy types.
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>>545572671
So Terraria in 3d, but not really much caves and shit, so in effect Terraria in 2d, but with less content.
Heh
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>>545572964
This
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>>545559772
Just how many minuscule iterations of the same shitty concept does one need? All these games try the same and they are all shit.
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>>545572964
Terraria at its release had less content than Terraria of today but was still good. Same for Valheim.
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I can't fucking believe how tediously grindy this shit is.
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>>545572671
holy fuck the shilling is real
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>>545559772
"procedural generation" is code word for "fucking lazy"
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>>545560738
quality post.
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>>545559772
At least PC still gets games instead of endless remasters.
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>>545574494
I wish the wc3 remaster wasnt super suckass.
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>>545574824
Just wait until the D2 remaster hits. Butthurt inbound.
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/v/ would rage about Terraria if it was released today
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>>545575071
>what the fuck, only 3 bosses?
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>>545575071
Valheim got big, so it draws the attention of people seeking to hack at its ankles ineffectually because they either dont like it or dont like that people dont like it.
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>>545559772
>WAAAAAAGHHHH WHY ARE PEOPLE LIKING THING I DONT LIKE WAAAAAAAAAAGHH

the absolute state
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>>545559772
>game moons at launch through a combination of marketing and luck
>stans and contrarians defend/shit on popular game giving it more popularity
That's just how it is. There are some absolute shit games that gain a huge following for no reason, while the soulful gems are mostly buried.
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>>545559772
>Thinking that people who fall for fotm openworldsurvivalcraft games define the entire state of PC gaming
Autism
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>>545559772
So whats a good game to play right now, then?
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>>545576413
ravenfield, ive been playing it alott with jet fighter mods
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>>545576169
Every game that comes out is fotm. Why do people only apply this to indie games, like AAA is the only way a game is legitimate or something.
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>>545577219
Not true. Many games are timeless. I don't apply this to indie games only. I apply it to games that are in early access, which are always indie games. There are plenty of indie games that have replayability years later.
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>>545561558
It's a 4 man studio. What sort of marketing budget do you think they have allocated to them?
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>>545559772
>there's people out there who still play neopets and have fun.
And what's wrong with that? They're having fun, you stupid nigger.
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>>545577671
>Many games are timeless.
post 10
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>>545577674
>still believing that lie
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>>545560105
>If Valheim is survival then so are Terraria and Minecraft.
Yes.
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>>545577671
I mean the criticism of fotm, pretty much every game that comes out is talked about and makes the rounds on release then stops being talked about. Many games are timeless, many more games get talked about for a month and then barely get mentioned again. Remember Cup Head? Remember how huge that was for like a month? This happens all the time but seems to be a major talking point when it comes to indie games, even though it happens to more games than not.
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>>545568194
take your meds chud
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>>545578528
maybe its the corps fishing for effective anti-marketing strategies against indies
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>>545561558
>Terraria
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>>545559772
>get to the part where I need iron
>turn on debug mode to find swamps
>game becomes fun again
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>>545559772
>flavor of the month
Imagine being so limited in what games you play that you try to rationalize that getting into a new one every month is a bad thing. Consolepeasants on suicide watch.
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>>545559772
>but if you're having fun then that's good for you
Not that that means much anyway. Fun's just cheap leftist propaganda to try and justify dumb shit.
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>>545578943
>Fun's just cheap leftist propaganda
internet broke you
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>>545578024

Also Hollow Knight but I torrented it
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>>545560105
>If Valheim is survival then so are Terraria and Minecraft
yes they are
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>>545579194
>>545578024
forgot pic
Timeless is also pretty subjective to a degree. But these games do have good replayability I think
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>>545572964
It's almost like Terraria had a decade of updates or something.
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>>545579290
Minecraft? Okay, there's food. But why Terraria?
Is it shelter?
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>>545579487
He's just being retarded, if Terraria is survival then any game where you can die is survival.
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>>545559772
it's better than 7days as a 3d survival crafting game because at least it has an objective, to kill the bosses

But yes it is a low budget game and a FOTM
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The only good thing about Valheim is that it made me go back to all of my other survival games I had in hiatus.
Garbage like this game is always useful, it reminds you that good games exist.
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>>545578024
Hollow Knight started as fotm and now it's one of the best indie metroidvanias on the market, if not one of the best indie games.

Cuphead started as a Flavor game with "oh looks hand drawn animation" and it became a must-play indie.

etc. Quality is what makes games become worth playing, whether they're flavors of the month or not.

As for Valheim, that's not really the case, it just got virulent marketing popular due streamers hitting a high demand genre.
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>>545559772
It's Minecraft with PS1 viking aesthetics, what's not to love? It's comfy and worth $20.
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>streamer plays game
>me play game streamer plays
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>>545559772
>pc gaming
Why are you specifying PC gaming when the problem is just gaming in general? I'd argue that the state of console gaming is even worse.
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>>545579556
Well the first day in Terraria is usually a scavenging rush for materials or equipment before the relatively tough compared to slimes undead and flying eyes come out.
I don't think that qualifies it as a survival game at all but it would be dishonest to say it doesn't have that element, even if it's just for 30 minutes or so compared to the many hours you could put in to a character/world.
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>>545579906
What makes Valheim low quality?
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>>545559772
its fun
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Feels like a singleplayer MMO if played solo, everything is FAR too grindy. The dying/difficulty elements are fine but there is NO reason to be this grindy when singleplayer.

Fun with friends as are most games but the single player requirements need to be scaled down as it seems to be designed with 3-4 players in mind (which I believe they even recommend).
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>>545580668
It needs tools/buildings to automatize certain grinds as part of lategame.
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>>545559772
why does this game makes /v/ seethe so hard? i dont get it
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>>545581041
>spam shill threads for a shit game
>get surprised when people call you a retard
>OMG Y U SEETHE
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>>545581041
Because it's popular and qualifies for 4 horsemen of shit (survival, crafting, early access, open world).
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>>545581218
seething
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the game is comfy
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>>545581501
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Are you telling me Valheim is a better game than Rust or The Forest?

Valheim's all time peak was 500k players, you're telling me an early access unity game justifies 500k concurrent players?

This is clearly because PC gaming is complete shit right now, simple as that - Cyberpunk bombed, nobody trusts AAA studios any more, we are left to pick from mediocre indie games that pop up here and there, then people move on to the next game 2-3 months later

Not even Grand Theft Auto V peaked at 500k, the highest it's peaked at was 360k

This is directly because 1. pandemic 2. pc gaming is shit 3. people want new shit to play
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>>545580882
Steel the NPC mechanics from Conan Exiles, that would go a long way in a game like this.
>villages you can find in the world
>can ask villagers to join you
>can assign them to a task like farming or smithing
>the NPC will walk around town doing the task or producing a resource each day
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>>545559772
I agree with the fact that the triple A gaming industry has devolved into a steaming pile of trash. A game like cyberpunk with millions in marketing comes out broken on release and under delivers in every way. Whereas 5 guys from Sweden make a game that weights 1 gb and it outsells any other triple A release. It says something about the gaming industry and its current state.
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>>545583376
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH PLAYING A GAME 2-3 MONTHS AND MOVING ON TO THE NEXT
IT'S THE FUCKING WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE

who the fuck plays games for 6+ months straight goddamit
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>>545583376
Rust, the Forest, GTAV and Cyberpunk are all worse games than Valheim.
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>>545565093
>bad pixelated graphics and blur
>I don't understand what a unique art style is

Kys teen
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>>545583376
>Are you telling me Valheim is a better game than Rust or The Forest?
Yes

The Forest is very good though. Saying Valheim is better than any of the above is not a slight in any form.
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>>545583376
never played the forest, but Valheim is way better than Rust
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See retards like >>545584304 ?
It explains everything.
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>>545564334
Weakness.
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>>545559772
>but it's OBJECTIVELY shit
You're just jaded and can't enjoy things anymore
even by today's standards this is a pretty good entry in the genre
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>>545560738
more like you've been coming here since 2017 fucking retard
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>>545584529
He's right when it comes to singleplayer and co-op games.
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>>545559772
keep gobbling that triple A cock
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>>545583376
Interesting take. I hadn't considered the timing.
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>>545584529
I repeat, when the fuck have you played a single game for more than a month without including those with endless padding and gazillion question marks on the minimap
I have only one mainstay that is Civ4 but it's a timeless classic with limitless replayability

I can only play so much Factorio, Noita, Dead Cells, and many other fantastic games without getting bored but after a month of playing them 2-3+ hours per day (60-90hs total), that's it
I may revisit some of them next year or after a DLC comes out but seriously

WHO THE FUCK PLAYS A SINGLE GAME FOR 3 MONTHS
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>>545585306
You can easily play most multiplayer games for years. As your example of Civ shows, it's all about replayability.
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>>545580305
YEP did this with jerma playing slime rancher and had fun
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>>545584787
This applies to multiplayer games as well
I'm tired of this consoomer mentality that games are supposed to give you 900000000+ hours of playtime
They're not
Stop judging games by how much playtime they give you and instead judge them for their mechanics and design
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>>545584529
He's right though, Valheim is a cheap game that people expect to have a short but fun amount of time on. Compared to AAA games like Rust/GTAV where it's autistic amounts of grinding with a boring gameplay loop with communities filled with children and/or retards the appeal of a functional game where you just build a base and kill bosses has an obvious massive appeal.
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>>545559772
>unless you're playing older games
all i do now. nothing from clownworld anymore
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I haven't tried Valheim yet but i honestly don't see why peoople would play it over Minecraft or Terraria
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>>545585496
read >>545586040

replayability ≠ good design
there's tons of absolutely shit-tier games that have endless muh replayability
and they suck

I'd rather have more Fallout 1/2's that give you 20-30 hours of top quality content than stupid shit as WoW that give you gazillion hours of terrible gameplay and visual design
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>>545586040
>literally consumes games faster than fast food as an argument
>throws a consoomer mentality insult
Have a good look at the mirror.
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>>545560209
Horseshit. Minecraft will actually kill you with its nagging bread meter. This game eating is only necessary if you are going to be taking damage, and that's fucking smart. If you want to chill in your base and build shit away from enemies, there's no need to eat and that's genius.
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>>545586276
base-building is much, much more comfy
combat is better
exploration is more interesting
looks better than both
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>>545586040
A good competitive multiplayer game will give you tons of play time because of good mechanics and design.
A singleplayer or co-op game can have those, but they will still eventually run out of content. With Competitive multiplayer there is no real 'content', you're just playing match after match, so it all banks on the mechanics and design.
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>>545559772
yeah 99% of the fomo games that exist now wouldnt be popular or even talked about at all
if AAA gaming didnt go to shit
or if retarded normies never invaded the hobby
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>>545586402
>consooms games for 9000+ hours
>thinks he's smarter than consoomers who consoom for less time
confirmed retard
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>>545586276
Valheim is absolute garbage except for its combat compared to Minecraft. If Minecraft decides to put in the same combat it'd become 100% more interesting but it ain't happening.
I fucking Valheim devs for putting up such a shitty garbage game, and I fucking hate people praising this shit. But on the other hand I can't blame the devs, this was some excellent timing and marketing.
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>>545559772
I agree OP, its a general drop in gamer skill. I dont see what makes holding down left mouse button for 30 seconds to chop a tree or cool a fish is engaging gameplay. What happened to skill ceilings? What happened to challenge?
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>>545586276
You can get sick of minecraft's blocky world pretty easily. Terraria is fucking amazing, but is 2d side-view and sadly not nearly as immersive.
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>545559772 (You)
take your meds retard
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>>545585306
Games with procedurally generated content, or mapping/modding communities tend to have a high replayability factor, and games with content updates tend to have long life spans.
Unless they drop development of the game or just get complacent and lazy it's probably going to be played for a while.
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>>545559772
I wish we could play Neopets again, remember the last time we did it /v/? it was like 10 years ago and i had a blast.
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>>545586558
with competitive multiplayer it gets more complex because games are designed to give you an arena to play against multiple opponents of varying skills
I agree with you here though, if the mechanics and design are good, they usually allow for enduring longer
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>>545586985
>>545559772
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>>545587026
yes, they will be played for a while, but not continuously for 3 months straight by a single person
player count will always = new players arriving + old players returning - old players leaving
it's never the same players
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>>545583376
You say that as if major PC releases have never bombed before, AAA were ever trusted after 2010, and Rust wasn't complete dog-shit propped up only by griefing videos.
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>>545587664
>but not continuously for 3 months straight by a single person
I've played Minecraft straight for like three years after I first bought it.
I've been playing Doom wads and Quake maps on the daily for the last two years.
Those are just some examples.
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>>545559772
>Why do you guys like something that I don't like
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>ctrl F
>take meds

and this game has the worst community I have ever seen
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>>545580305
the only epeople I saw do anything with this game was albino and JFJ and that was after I had 30 hours in the game
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>>545587940
Doom and Quake are great, but there's only so much they can offer. I used to play Doom wads every now and then but they were nowhere near 3-month sprees, more like a flavor of the week, because there's like 2 or 3 good wads and the rest are shit

also
>minecraft
you definitely need help senpai, minecraft is the very definition of the zoomer player meme
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the thirst is real - what will everyone do when the supply of fresh drugs ceases? play duke nukem irl? blow it out your ass, yeah. i am duke nukem and you are not. kek
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>>545588637
Minecraft is close to twelve years old anon and I bought it in 2010.
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i'll give it to you straight - there will be no gaming soon and no energy to game with. in fact, once ww3 hits there will be no muttland at all
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>>545588637
I think you need to come to terms with the fact that some people enjoy video games at a different pace.
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>>545588879
>2010
my point exactly
it was a dumbed-down copy of dwarf fortress to appeal to zoomers and hipsters who think voxels are the trendiest shit

>>545588945
nobody enjoys games for more than 3 months when played for 2-3 hours a day with the exception of a handful of classics that had replayability in mind
my point is, expecting such games to pop out on a monthly basis is pure delusion
we're lucky if we get one of them a year
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>>545589895
>it was a dumbed-down copy of dwarf fortress
Holy retard. It was a literal rip off of infiniminer, neither have anything to do with DF.
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calm your tits consolefucks this is obviously going to be ported to console.
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>crusader kings 3
>warhammer total war
>vintage story
>dorf fort with mouse support
nah i think i'm good mate i like pc games
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>>545589895
>minecraft
>anything like dorf fort
Holy fuck what
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I torrented the game and was shocked, how dull, boring and low quality it is. It's nice the skills progress like they do in Oblivion, but it's the grindiest, ugliest shitfuck of a game #5463456 there is. Truly nothing can ever come close to the RPG titan like Gothic.
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>>545589895
>dwarf fortress
I binged that shit straight for like a year as well.
And Minecraft has barely anything to do with DF. Sure, Notch originally said that something like it was his goal, but that very quickly changed into a very different game.
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>>545585306
>WHO THE FUCK PLAYS A SINGLE GAME FOR 3 MONTHS
Me, because I'm not an add riddled mess
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>>545590468
oh wow, I did not put that together but all these threads have been made by consolecucks who cant into pc gaming. its all so obvious now.
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>>545588436
Yours is literally the only post that said "take meds."
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>>545585306
>playing 2-3h of games a day
lol no life loser
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>Early Access
>Survival
>Crafting
>Microtransactions
The shill campaign for this game is more than Genshin Impact and CP2077 combined holy shit
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>>545559772
>reddit spacing
Didn't read lmao
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>>545559772
I pirated a build that isn't too old to try it, it ain't that bad m8, and I fucking loathe survival shit. So I see why it popped off, it's more an "ARPG" with base buildan
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>>545592489
Imagine being so buttblasted about a game being successful you have to make up lies to make it look bad.
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You niggers are STILL seething at this game? Pathetic
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>>545559772
>it's just another flavor of the month game like fall guys, among us, phasmophobia, genshin impact, etc.
This is the annoying part, all of my friends just hop from one FOTM to the next. It's all so tiring.
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>>545592886
>ingame screenshot
>lies
you just wake up and choose shilling don't you
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>>545564498
ROCK AND STONE
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>>545559772
>subjective
>OBJECTIVELY
Don't use words you clearly don't know the meaning of, kiddo.
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>>545593071
and you are forcing them to play a game they no longer enjoy. What a shit friend
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>>545593174
screenshots can easily be faked, especially if all that's required is adding some text on top. Now show me those microtransactions, I can't find them on the Steam store page.
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>>545592489
>"this game has microtransactions!!!1"
>posts misleading 'dlc required' picture for items that were awarded to early beta players
the absolute state of valheim haters
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>>545592489
>Microtransactions
where?
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Valheim is really good. Been playing it co-op with two friends and it's the most I've had in a game in a long time.

It hit that sweet spot of survival perfectly; reminds me of subnautica.
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>>545581698
this
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>>545559772
Maybe you're definition of "shit" is subjective. Not maybe, definitely. The only that is objectively shit is shit.

If I (and 3 million others) are having fun and enjoying the game, why do you give a fuck? For the (you)s? If you allowed yourself to enjoy things you would be happier. If you can't enjoy yourself? ... Seek help.
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>>545592489
That's the Odin gear, can't buy it yet
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>>545593071
>play game until completion
>move on to next game
Why the fuck do you faggots want every game to be a fucking commitment? Not every game needs you to devote your whole life to it you fucking dumb nigger
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>>545560105
holy fuck you're retarded
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>>545593954
Kids these days are all about live-service games
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>>545594149
It’s so fucking annoying how /v/cels constantly cry about FOTM games like yes I got my fun out of it now I’m moving on to other games is that not how it works? Am I suppose to play forever? Fuck off
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"Flavor of the month" is underage poorfag cope. Their moms will only buy them one game a year, and they're butthurt they can't move onto something else when they're done with it.
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>>545586276
Because people have played to Terraria to death?
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>>545559964
FPBP
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>>545572671
>different enemies
>status effects
>biomes
>procedural generation
How is any of that revolutionary. I don't see how having basic ass features like those should make this game stand out.
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>>545559772

Played for 1.5 hours and it is so incredibly bland. I don't see anything gameplay or design-wise that makes it better than any other survival craft
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>>545593954
Because any excuse, no matter how small, is used to justify haterfags not getting on board something.
>"Huh, only played for 3 months straight eh? Put in 700 hours? TORTANIC TORTANIC TORTANIC"
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>>545595228
It doesn't have to be "revolutionary." It just does a good mix of things and plays nice.
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>play game as intended
>literally unplayable
yup it's an early access game all right
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>>545590069
>10 comfort
Gotta pump those numbers, those are rookie numbers
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Can you somehow copy game savefiles or something and have another player host the server? Played with my friend from start but he quit and I don't wanna start over.
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>>545598263
Aye
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>>545597848
>literally unplayable
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>>545583376
The Forest has way better AI, but everything else is mediocre or full of bugs
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>IT'S SO BAD
>MY OPINION IS MORE CORRECTOR THAN 3 MILLION PEOPLE
>I DON'T NEED TO PLAY IT TO KNOW IT'S BAD
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>>545581041
It has everything set for it to be a horrible horseshit game (open-world survival crafting early acess streamer bait) yet it's somehow actually pretty honestly decent.
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>>545602596
Arguably isn't even a survival game.
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>>545580305
There are four times as many people playing Valheim as there are people who watched the game streamed
You're retarded
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To be honest, I am still curious about that game.

Is it good and worth to play?
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Valheim is pretty average. It's fun with friends, really comfy.
The real reason it's so successful is because nobody makes decent co-op games anymore, and finally there's something new you can actually play with your friends that's DESIGNED to be played with friends.
You can play multiplayer competitive games with your friends and queue for games, but that's not co-op, that's something different.
The gaming industry is so dogshit that Valheim is literally the only remotely interesting game to play at the moment. It hit the right niche because everyone is off with nothing to do and spending lots of time with their friends online, so of course it's gonna spread like wildfire
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>>545578619
you will never be a woman, snoytranny.
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>>545559964
fpbp
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>>545603072
It's fun. If you want to build viking looking wood and stone bases and harvest materials and shit to make bigger and better things, yeah it's pretty fun. It looks way nicer than most screenshots because it's brimming with environmental effects and lighting and shit, so it's best if you don't have a toaster.
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valheim is not a survival game, you can't starve, you don't drink water, you can't die from the weather besides cold but it takes a fucking lot.
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>>545561558
>educate yourselves
the bait is REEEELLL tempting it'S REEELLLLL TEMPTIN FATHA /V/ ITS REAAAAAALLLLLLL TEMPPPPPTTTIIINNNGGG
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>>545560738
Based
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>>545559772
Game good. Unga Bunga
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>>545604587
I don't think "starvation" is absolutely required for a game to be filed in the genre. After all, eating food still helps your "survival."
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>>545602596
basebuilding is easy and even uninspired retards like am one (couldn't get into terraria, minecraft and the sims) can make something decent and comfy looking in a few minutes.

I'm also genetically and culturally Germanic, so not playing jew shit is a nice change as well.
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>>545604587
eating is not really optional once you leave the base.
drinking mechanic would be as pointless as shitting mechanic.
you also need to gather resources for equipment, you don't just collect cool armor in the world, so it's not an adventure game with optional crafting like skyrim.
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Game is a fuckton of fun. But it is certainly not balanced well for solo play, in that the grind is grossly exacerbated solo. In any case, it was $20 well spent.
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>>545559772
its the new Minecraft/Fortnite type game for normies.
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>>545559772
been a while since i've seen a game make /v/ this mad.
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>>545578694
This.
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>>545568527
Player graves stay around for days.
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>>545564148
It happens time and time again. Now take your meds schizo.
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>>545606663
I don't think they ever go away. My buddy in the leather-age got flipped over by a serpent in a raft and devoured, and that was like day 15. Day 183 and we were sailing and saw his little grave with everything still on it.

ALSO
PROTIP
NOT MOVING IN THE WATER DOES NOT CONSUME STAMINA
I've saved myself many times that way, but of course if you're alone you're kind of fucked in any case.
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>>545590069
Not a throne room. All I need is a comfy log cabin.
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>>545583376
>>cyberpunk bombed
It's still on the best seller list on steam and GOG, and my 200+ hours on the game tell me that it's pretty fucking good, technical issues aside.
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Since the Pandemic started I
>Played Sythetik for about 2 months straight: Indie
>Finally finished Sekiro which took a week or two: AAA
>Completed DOOM 2016 and Eternal in about a month: AAA
>Completed Horizon Zero Dawn in about a month: AAA
>Played Risk of Rain 2 for two months straight: Indie
>Played Deep Rock Galactic for three months straight: Indie
>Completed Terraria in about 2 weeks: Indie
>Been playing Valheim for a week and likely will for another few weeks at this rate: Indie
FOTM isn't a bad thing, that's the life cycle of most games for anybody that wants variety. There is some decent entries in both Indie and AAA games. All this doomposting and schizoposting, you guys are nuts.
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>>545608757
I'm unsure what these FOTM fags are looking for. One game to sink 1200 hours into over a year? Sounds more autistic then jumping to new games every month. Variety is the spice of life.
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>>545606945
Thinking about having to tread water for an extended period of time while you wait for a friend to sail across the continent to save your ass when a sea serpent could spawn at any time and eat you...man. Since I was a kid, the thought of things being in the water always scared the shit out of me to the point where I used be afraid of the drains at the bottoms of pools and would not swim near them.
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>>545559964
/thread
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>>545559964
fag
>>545559772
has been shit for years fag
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>>545605095
Name one survival game or mode that you don't die from not eating. I'll wait.
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>>545609928
Valheim
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>>545610092
stop being a low iq faggot and answer the question. Valheim isn't a survival game
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>>545610293
Genres are a collection of similar rules, and new games frequently test those. There's nothing that says you can't bend one of them. Precedent isn't law. Lord knows it does everything else like a survival game.
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You really should give a chance honestly. I'm jaded as fuck when it comes to gaming and even I enjoy it. Just keep in my that it's not that good as the hype is, especially the building and resources required and their transportation. It's still a pretty alright solid game which shows that even this genre can have good games.
Pirate it first because its a very one sided game, you either like it or you don't.
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>>545609928
Dark Souls is now a survival game. Think about it. You have to survival the idiot fanbase long enough to swallow the shit that everyone else claims is great. "Survival"
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>>545609928
Stalker
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>>545610507
So it is a souls game then.
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>>545560340
>>545586479
you do not die of starvation in minecraft, it lowers you to half health
>/v/ doesn't play games
who fucking knew
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>>545559964
>fun
We don't use that would around here.
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>>545559772
the current state of console gaming is so shit that yearly recycle trash like call of duty/madden/fifa are considered "good games" and go on to sell 10m copies.
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>>545610732
Sure, have fun convincing people of that one.
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>>545610545
also sorry for typos I chugged down half of a baileys.
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>>545610618
>fps
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>>545559772
Pc fags can literally not refute this. They will call you a console pleb but all they have is their disgusting porn games.
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>>545610851
>bosses
>omg this is so "hard"
Convince them of what? That dark souls is a survival game?
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>>545610865
It's a survival horror game. You lose.
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>>545611001
Goddamn you are fuming. You should try this survival game called Valheim, it's fun. It'll help you unwind.
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>>545610878
Skyrim is a great game, shut the fuck up.
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>>545611058
straight from steam: Atmospheric Post-apocalyptic Open World FPS

guess they forgot the "survival" tag
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>>545611194
I played Valheim. It was the best souls game yet XD
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>>545559772
>among us
>flavor of the month
>still a top 100 most played game on steam
>is a reimagining of werewolf/mafia a game that predates video games
it's actually the opposite of a flavor of the month, it's timeless.
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>>545559772
You OBJECTIVELY have no friends
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>>545611228
>Genres:First-person shooter, Role-playing video game, Survival horror
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Prey for the Gods was supposed to be getting it's full release early this year. Will they be able to springboard off of Valheim's surprise success or will that diminish the amount of demand for a game like that, the games are very similar after all but PftG is entirely single player so the co-op crowd probably won't be interested.
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>>545611914
You never know. If Valheim doesn't ride the wave of popularity and people cool off before it gets big updates, another game could take it away.
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>>545610618
You are basically dead if you can't move. So this is really apples to oranges. In Valheim, you still have stamina regardless of food intake.
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The whole game revolves around spending hours to collect resources to make gear to defeat the bosses. But when the boss fights look like this, what's the point of even playing?

https://youtu.be/VMp9xSXs0ec

You literally just want in a circle 5x to win the game.....
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>finally decide to fights the sea serpent
>shoot him with arrows
>he runs away
>sail to him
>he charges and runs
>kill him eventually
Is this what it normally does?
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>>545613032
Yes the ai is retarded.
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>>545613032
You're fucking him up so of course he runs. Get a harpoon and tether him and he won't go anywhere. His meat is EXTREMELY good.
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>>545612968
>The whole game revolves around spending hours to collect resources to make gear to defeat the bosses.
Wrong.
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>>545611914
haha it'll get called a valheim clone and tank and nobody will even remember it a year from now
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>>545612968
>Im in basic gear
>wearing full trollhide against first boss
What a fucking liar. Thumbs down.
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Valheim could've released fully on the PS5 in its current state and be lauded as the finest survival game on the market, but because it's a PC title releasing in a flooded market of trashy asset flips and streamer baits you automatically dismiss it.
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Post gas chamber designs.
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>>545611914
reeks of lgbtq
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>>545614407
I've been keeping an eye on it for a few years waiting for full release before I pick it up but I always have to go looking for news, I have never seen anybody talk about it.
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>>545572671
This is fucking pathetic lmao, did you just hop out of a time machine from 2010?
>procedural generation
Barely affects the game at all, especially because there is FUCK ALL to do in the biomes besides the swamp. Shitty copy-paste skyrim hallway dungeons are fun for the first 2 times.
>world item transfer
Its convenient, thats it. Not really a selling point because most people dont switch worlds
>the crafting and exploration is done brilliantly
shut the fuck up shill, holy shit dude the crafting is less involved than fucking minecraft with practically 0 options besides the very linear progression system of tools
>different biomes statuses and enemies
wow you just described 100 video games, give this shit a medal.
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>>545575071
Terraria was 10$ and not nearly as shilled as this game.
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>>545602771
By what metric are you inferring this? Wanna show some numbers?
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>>545616104
Game in 2011 also doesn't have the amount of content as this does, back then it was 2D Minecraft. Terraria has come a long fucking way, and so has PC gaming in general.
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>>545607794
All your 200+ hours tell anyone else is that you're a retard
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>>545615925
>>procedural generation
I member when Daggerfall was praised for this. I mean some of these faggots on this board still praise that game.
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>>545616312
Peak players on steam are over 400k
Peak viewers on twitch is less than 200k
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>>545607794
As long as you forget, or act like you don't remember the promises, I agree. But let's be real here. What was delivered vs. what was shown in trailers/promised is totally different.
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>neopets is shit

Take that back now
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>>545616571
I think it works to decent effect in Valheim. Very large land masses and biomes can play a large role in where I choose to create outposts and how I approach a boss.
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>>545583376
The Forest has such bullshit endings, I was honestly surprised anyone could act like that game was worth a shit. And Rust is full of fucktards/
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>>545583376
>Are you telling me Valheim is a better game than Rust
Yes. Rust is a PK shithole full of assholes.
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>>545565093
What video game looks good? You offer complaints, no alternatives, no examples, just bitching.
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>>545616723
It is shit because it is popular. Neo /v/ everyone!
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I like the building system though the way to progress feels way too linear to me. Having to go to certain biomes to get the right resources is a little lame. It's fun with friends but easy to burn out on.
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>>545616571
Daggerfall's generation was impressive for its age, but yes it made the actually gameplay fucking garbage.
>>545616807
>I think it works to decent effect in Valheim. Very large land masses and biomes can play a large role in where I choose to create outposts and how I approach a boss.
What? All you do is make an outpost in a biome with the resource you need, or as a waystation. The only thing you need for any of the bosses is space so dont build on an island. The only random generation should be the boss locations, the generation only prolongs the already ridiculous grind. It wouldnt be so bad if there were actually things to find along the way but there are none
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>>545559772
>your opinion is subjective
>MY opinion is objective
No, you see it's actually the other way around, I'm right and you're wrong because I can't be wrong :^)
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>>545617694
> It wouldnt be so bad if there were actually things to find along the way but there are none

The devs said they only have 50% of the content they want in the game. What part of early access don't you understand?
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>>545559772

IDEA TIME

fulings:
-drastically reduced damage (1-stars instagibbing me through full padded can fuck off)
-appear in groups of at minimum 3 fulings
-notify nearby fulings, including berserkers, when they are aggro'd, so they will now always fight as a group and the watchtower fulings become a legitimate concern.

fuck fulings honestly
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>>545616558
I fail to see the point, if PC gaming has come so far why does valheim have content comparable to a game release nearly a decade ago?
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>>545618290
Because it's an unfinished game
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>>545618290
because just like 10 years ago, its a small team making a game? 5 people 10 years ago making a game vs 5 people now making a game the only thing that has change is tools. Considering this is a full 3D game that has good lighting and some physics simulation with trees/smoke
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just another disgusting mobile game looking streamerbait title that will have 10 million concurrent viewers and an ingame cash shop and 70% of the players having their name be their twitch channel
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>>545618039
I remember a time when people released fully finished games, and when this place was up in arms about the flood of early access titles that made it onto steam. At a very decent rate valheim can be completed in under 20 hours even with the grind by 4 semi competent people, I dont like seeing games that release half finished (I understand early access I dont like the idea) being so heavily shilled on here. I have no problem if you like the game and its far from terrible, but there is definitely some extremely vocal people on here spamming threads about this
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>>545617694
My third boss is surrounded by plains and ocean. Makes it harder and more strategic as to where I want to build in a swamp for a portal and small outpost. The terrain in the immediate area matters too. And since not all worlds are the same it makes exploration for things like the merchant more based on luck which is fine to a degree. As I said, procedural generation isn’t too bad here and with more content or random events/dungeons interspersed in each biome it can get very good in the future.
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>>545617027
My cousin says the game has basically been ruined by cheaters and it only got worse when the game experienced it's recent explosion in popularity. He had been playing for years and within the last year or two has been playing with a friend to support his stream because you need a decent team in order to do well in that game. He recently dropped it though and has been doing a lot of PvE co-op and single player games because the game wore him out so much on PvP bullshit. He almost bounced off of Valheim because the early game reminded him of Rust so much but eventually he got past it.
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>>545618815
I only have a problem with early access if it stays early access forever (see: 7dtd). I get why small dev teams have a hard time completing large games.
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>>545618290
Most technical advances contribute very little to overall game quality. Why do you think old games are so great so often?
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>>545619461
7dtd is a great game though and has improved massively
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how come we don't get to pet Hugin?
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>>545620185
>7 years early access
No, just no. There isn't anything they have done that justifies 7 going on 8 years of alpha.
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>>545573540
This. And valheims implementation of it is complete ass. The same shitty terrain everywhere with a slightly different theme
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>>545560738
Based baj
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>>545620505
Hugin and Munin are your brain halves.
You are Odin.
Odin == fetus, 9 nights hanging upside down from the tree of life (as cringe and retarded and 'vargpilled' (he's not the pioneer of it) as it sounds, the placenta, which does look like a tree and its what humans saw coming out with each birth for milennia)) sacrificed by himself to himself (dna through cock 'spear') etc
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>>545620604
the thing they've done that justifies it is being honest.
too many games have "beta" in their name while being an alpha, and "released" in their updates while being a beta.
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>>545621017
JUST LET ME PET THE BIRD FOR FUCK SAKE I DONT CARE
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>>545621017
The 'tree of life'.
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>>545621181
I think you got the meaning of honest wrong. If the devs were honest they'd post an update saying that they are too busy having fun in the sun on the new island and the game is never going to be done.
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>>545584304
>Kenshi
>Rimworld
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>>545621362
yeah it would be nice to pet ravens.
In fact, I'd love to see ravens instead of gulls.
I want the forest to be full of raven calls, they are beautiful songbirds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F_L6knH_qo
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>>545621529
you can literally just google their names to get to their twitter, one of the main devs' twitter is half /fit/ shit, and half his game
do you think they went 7 years on without updating their game?
it's better to go 7 years of updates and still call it an alpha than 7 years of delays and the end result being a trainweck when it finally "releases", see Cyberpunk.
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There are so many faggots determined to be as cynical as possible about this game.
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>>545559964
Yeah, I think OP bought a PS5
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>>545621707
you have no idea how much I love these black balls of feathers
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>>545621912
It's kind of pathetic
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Piggies keep appearing out of the fucking pig pen I made for them for fucks sake
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>>545560478
#STOPTHESTEAL
HE WON
REEEE
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>>545565093
You can turn most of that off as soon as you start the game, fucking retard. The lighting and weather effects on top of shit graphics is why it looks good, not the chromatic aberration I turned off dozens of hours ago.
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>>545566934
>barely any games support VR Hardware
>B-But muh peripheral
cope
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>>545621825
>cyberpunk
Bring up another shit game doesn't magically cover this shit game.

7 years and no excuse. I can't wait until the shit storm of the next 7
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>>545621017
Dont forgrt the sleep quote about rivers going uphill and trees growing down
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>>545622821
I'm not trying to cover for it, you said there's nothing that justifies it, and I just said that being an alpha is adequate for the state that it's in, the time it's taking is irrelevant.
you still didn't even try to counterargument that nor provide a reason as to why it's shit.
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>>545623171
There is nothing that justifies 7 year alpha. Cyberpunk, and the trash that it is has nothing to do with this. 7 more years of alpha. Maybe beta but it doesn't matter because it will always run like shit.
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>>545623171
>the time it's taking is irrelevant.
Spoken like a true Scam Citizen backer. When will they learn?
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>>545623374
>There is nothing that justifies 7 year alpha.
the developers clearly aren't happy enough with the current state of the game to claim that it's a beta, why is this a bad thing?

>>545623501
not equivalent. TFP never promised a date of release for the game, but are still delivering meaningful updates for a game you can play when you pay for it. they aren't asking for exorbitant amounts of money for a product you can't even use, either.
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>>545623856
>exorbitant amounts
define exorbitant. They are charging more for the game now then when first "released"

>TFP never promised a date of release for the game
because it is never happening. They know it, you need to come to terms with it.
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>>545621017
please varg go back in your car.
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>>545623856
There is no point in arguing over this. I will be back here in 7 years when it still isn't released.
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>>545624084
>They are charging more for the game now then when first "released"
40 dollars for a game that doesn't exist is exorbitant. 40-60 dollars for ships in a game that doesn't exist is exorbitant. 1100 dollars for a (fleet? space freighter?) in a game that doesn't exist is exorbitant. see >https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/game-packages
>because it is never happening. They know it,
proof? Cyberpunk was a never ever too, wasn't it?
>>545624331
I accept your concession, next time try playing a game before you talk about it, dumb nigger.
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>>545586040
Valheim, if judged on its mechanics and design, is complete dogshit
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>>545559772
OP is a faggot with small balls and hates having fun or other people enjoying themselves OP needs to go outside more
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>>545559772
>it's just another flavor of the month game like fall guys, among us, phasmophobia, genshin impact, etc.

Check out Captain Obvious over here.
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>>545605658
>unga
One of my friends made a character named Unga Bunga, primitive chads are a staple in any group
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I’m at almost 90 hours solo and there are ‘people’ here who want to tell me I didn’t have any fun.
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>>545622075
I just let those escape. If you really want to keep them you can build a pit
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>>545595228
but did you play it, is the real question.
poorfags seething in these threads.
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>>545625427
Stop, you can't do that here
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Is there a use for all the trophy heads? Or is it solely for display?
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>>545559772
>if you have fun, it's SHIT
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>>545625427
NOOOOOOO STOP HAVING FUN
FOTM TRASH REEEEEEE PLEASE NOOOOOOOOO
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>>545559772
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>>545613773
No but thats correct. The only other thing besides getting the next tier of equipment via mining is building shit. The game is completely devoid of any content outside the progression of gear
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>>545616571
Daggerfall beats the fuck out of Valheim in terms of what it's procedural generation can do, and even that game is boring.
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>>545561893
CALL OF DUTY IS A SURVIVAL GAME
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>>545610797
Casual
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>>545618039
Doubling the content would still not be enough to make this game feel not empty. Its that devoid of content
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>>545625309
Based
When we first started we ran around with clubs making cavemen noises and beating shit to death
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>>545627190
Wut? All this game needs is a few special but rare dungeons, merchants, and equipment in each biome. Basically, a reason to return to old biomes apart from picking fruits and thistle.
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Took this shot post attack wave, never really been so immersed in a game’s environment like this. Every time I come home to my village by the lake, it’s such a cozy return. I hardly ever play games like this so maybe that’s why I’m not jaded. I dunno, just spent 6 hours plays coop with a pal and it was the most fun I’ve had in vidya in a long time.

Why you guys hef to be mad, s’only game?
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>>545622821
Wait, this shit unity game has been in development for 7 years?

Hahahahahahaha
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All the possible red flags are there, but it may be fun with friends, I haven't played it yet.
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>>545627603
I’m playing solo and every time I sail back to my base with a load of ore I feel the good feels. This game has charm.
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>>545559772
>it's just another flavor of the month game like fall guys, among us, phasmophobia, genshin impact, etc.
You mean the games that I still play
>reality is, new pc games are mostly shit, there's not much out there to play - unless you're playing older games
Well we get to play all your console trash too so it doesn't really matter
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>>545627614
Learn to follow a conversation dumbfuck
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>>545560105
based
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>>545561558
>do you really believe generic survival game #456123723 can pull those player numbers with zero marketing budget?
>educate yourself
>What is Minecraft
>What is Terraria
>What is Rust
>What is Ark
etc etc you're retarded
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>>545564148
yes
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>>545628147
Every now and then a game is released right as video game ennui is hitting its peak, and is latched on to for no other reason than it fucking exists.
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>>545559772
I find it really cute and endearing when OP act like only new "PC" game are shit.

Last half decent game is over a decade old and you need to go even farther when talking about consoles go kill yourself zoomer faggot.
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>>545627543
It needs
>wholly reconstructed dungeon assets that don't look like shit
>better indoor lighting
>less shitty crafting mechanics with all the stupid buttfuck objects you have to place everywhere to build anything
> at least 10x the amount of building materials to be on par with other games in the genre
>more meaningful weapon and armor selection
>a skill system that actually matters
>equipment screen and better weapon swapping in combat that remembers if you had a shield equipped
>more things to see and actual unique locations generated in the overworld
>npcs
>villages
>rival villages/outpost that are then some shitshacks
>better terrain generation that isn't just tiny pea sized islands everywhere
>better boss fights that aren't just simplistic cover -shoot or dodge roll attack spam
>actual boss loot
>actual dungeon loot
>underground areas
>actual terrain manipulation and not just the shifty height map change they have inplace because they sucl so much fucking cock they couldn't voxels to work
>cosmetic items
>meme weapons/unique weapons

And then it would be worth the $20 price Tage and be comparable to terraria
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>>545605658
>But it is certainly not balanced well for solo play, in that the grind is grossly exacerbated solo.
I dunno, I play with friends, but I went out by myself and got enough iron in an hour to max all my gear.
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>>545565093
>pixel graphics are literally best part of the art style
>can turn literally everything else you bitch about off in options
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>>545624678
Imagine defending a game that got pulled from steam the first time for stealing the killing floor model and using it as a zombie. The devs have been on autopilot since a12 only releasing a few models every update. But what can you expect from incompetent devs that rip shit off? That's right, an incomplete game.
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>>545565207
that's funny Red Dead 2 has sold more then Fall Guys. Maybe you're just a shallow retard
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Did you guys upgrade your boat storage?
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>>545628758
I hope you upgraded the storage in your ass so it can take my huge cock.
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>>545628758
Oh shit. How's it handle rough weather?
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>>545565207
>my generation ooga, their generation booga
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>>545609928
>"I-IT'S NOT REALLL SURVIVAL IF I DON'T SAY SO"
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>>545628758
Nah not playing this shit game
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>>545610797
>he plays Minecraft on anything but hard
LMAO
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>>545561558
Nigger
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>>545628891
Surprisingly well for host, but can sometimes clip for others. Also, it still has weight and can push the boat down quite hard when fully loaded
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>>545613773
it's 100% correct, explain how it's wrong if it is
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>>545628974
>It's not souls if I don't say so
Dark Souls has never looked better.
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>>545565207
read dead 2 fucking sucks, and I'm 30. hurr ride horse, skin fox, watch cutscene.
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>>545614665
>"N-NO! THIS RECORDED FOOTAGE CAN'T BE REAL!!"
oh the denial
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>>545628535
>npcs
>villages
Yeah. no. Minecraft died the day they added this shit.
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>>545624678
the only dumb nigger here is you, fuck off with your scam bitch
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>>545629176
>Also, it still has weight and can push the boat down quite hard when fully loaded
can it sink the boat?
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>>545629176
Damn man can't believe I never thought of that. We just found a massive mountain that's quite the trip away from the main production hub, so doing that trick should be helpful. I'd like to drag materials from the main hub there too so I don't have to slap down the trees protecting us from the shithole that is the plains.
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>>545560105
>enemies can't kill you unless you're afk
Haven't conquered mountains or explored plains have you?
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>>545629486
Haven't tried yet, but fully loaded cart on one side of the ship noticeably keels it
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>>545628535
>>better boss fights that aren't just simplistic cover -shoot or dodge roll attack spam
sorry friend but that's pretty much all dark souls combat is, and valheim is just a worse dark souls with a generated world and crafting.
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>>545629556
t. bad at videogames
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>>545612968
>beat boss = win game
Dumb nigger, don't apply rules of linear games to sandboxes. We spent over 60 hours playing and we haven't even beaten Bonemass yet, game's a blast
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don't BS me anons, my unemployment just went thru, should I buy it? I swore to myself to never buy another early access title
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>>545560478
>you fool, its A SCAM
Like most indie games
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>>545629925
Fucking hell no.
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>>545629925
>I swore to myself to never buy another early access title
Then why the fuck would you even consider it?
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>>545629925
Buy it, don't enjoy it after two hours? Return it. I have been enjoying the hell out of it both singleplayer and MP.
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>>545559772
that is correct.
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>>545629925
Yes.
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>>545629925
Don't. Straight up don't. There is no way to know if they are ever going to do more with this shit.
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>>545559772
valheim feels like a caricature of the most stereotypical "pc game" you could possibly come up with. it's a monument to pcfags' atrocious taste.
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>>545628535
>It needs the content of a completed $15 2D sidescroller to justify its $20 pricetag
people will say anything to trash this game
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>>545629925
>I swore to myself to never buy another early access title
>guys tell me, sh-should I buy this
>>>/reddit/ you pathetic virtuesignaling manbaby
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>>545559772
>genshin impact
>FOTM
The FOTM window has long since passed anon. Genshin is already like what half a year or so old at this point.
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>>545629925
I wouldn't bother with this game if I wasn't playing with my friends.
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>>545629925
Pirate it my nigga. If you like it and NEED to play with others you can buy it
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>>545559772
>you're free to like it but it's OBJECTIVELY SHIT
that's just your opinion man
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>>545628535
Your tastes are shit. Go play minecraft.
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>>545630620
yes? Why should a game twice the price of Terraria not have half the content it had within the first 6 months? You know terraria added wall of flesh and hardmode like 6 months after release right? You're not a retarded zoom zoom who first played terraria last year are you?
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>>545559772
>STOP PLAYING FALL GUYS
>STOP HAVING FUN IN AMONG US
>STOP ENJOYING VALHEIM
>G-GUYS, PLS, STOP PLAYING WITHOUT ME, I CAN'T AFFORD IT
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>>545630845
minecraft is shit. No thanks.
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>>545631227
zoom zoom
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>>545631295
But faggot, you know that is minecraft?
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>>545631131
Has it been 6 months since Valheim came out?
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>>545631131
>Why should a EA game not be completed?
>Comparing a 3D procedurally generated game to a 2D sidescroller
One is MUCH easier to make content for
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>>545631131
Valheim came out this month dipshit
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>>545631371
>zoom zoom
Keep seething while I'm having fun playing video games, loser
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>>545559964
Reaching biblical levels of based
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>>545631550
no thats why i havent bought it and won't play it until/if it adds the necessary content
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>>545631630
fuck off retard. These devs had all the tools to create the world right in the unity dev kit. All they did was make some models, they probably did next to no work on terrain generation or anything programming related barring UI
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>>545564148
Just take the L anon. Come back with an actual argument next time rather than dogwhistling things you have no evidence on
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>>545631457
no that's terraria, minecraft is shit
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>>545631817
>DOESN'T MATTER THAT THIS IS LITERAL SHIT ON MY PLATE MADE FOR SHIT-EATING CHILDREN, I *ENJOY* EATING IT OKAY?
ok zoomie
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>>545632290
Don't get a stroke, loser
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>>545620505
>Hugin
>You cant hug'im
wtf nintendo
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>>545632290
SEETHE and COPE
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>>545629719
t.10 person community server
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>>545629528
you can still bring wood through portals.
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>Just want to build my magnum opus minecraft castle adventure
>my friends only want to play this braindead fad game

I HAVE HAD IT WITH THIS BORING, BARREN, "PROCEDURALLY GENERATED" RAILROAD TO NOWHERE
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>>545633274
Right. But I'd like to bring a metric fuckload all at once as well as some cores and bars.
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>>545566475
>reductionism is the only way I know how to argue
18+ to post here bud
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>>545560082
You go first
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>>545629925
i bought it and love the single player. if money is tight just torrent it and single player it obviously dude wtf.
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>>545633313
Minecraft fucking sucks lmao
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>>545634985
minecraft is what you make it. This is not.
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>>545559964
This. And only this.
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>>545593523
I haven't seen the item ingame for the DLC chalice, but there exists Odin's Cape and Hood for supporters that displays the same text currently.
See >>545593562

I didn't know there was a beta, but apparently there was and only those items are known to be for them.
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>>545559772
>the current state of pc gaming
I have consoles too and I'm still playing valheim
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>>545560105
That's why Valheim is so successful. It isn't survival, it is Minecraft/Terraria. They are really good games are incredibly popular.
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>>545560738
Based and nigpilled
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>>545559772
>Game is low quality as fuck
>Still laggy as shit
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You guys do realize that these threads are blatant shill threads right? Every single thread with this game starts out as either;
"This game is so bad!!!"
or
"WTF /v/ told me this game was bad and it's great, /v/ BTFO"

Both types are clearly meant for heated discussion and bait people into replying
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>>545639453
>Both types are clearly meant for heated discussion and bait
That's nearly every thread on this board, anon
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I don't care.
I got back from a hard day at work, turned my pc on and finished building my home. I still haven't killed the first boss, I just wander around and build random things. It's so goddamn comfy. But trees killed me twice today, they are fucking powerful.
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>>545639453
I'm confused as to why you only post in certain threads
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I spent 6 hours cutting trees and mining ore help....
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>>545559772
Uhh...
So, there isn't just one game on PC at a time.
I know its confusing since Nintendo Sony and Microsoft sell you one game a month at best
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80 hours and still not bored. Help me.
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>>545628758
>default Unity gloss material on everything
jesus, that's what the game looks like?
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I'm too much of a dummy and can't make my dedicated server work
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>>545640107
Pump him full of fire arrows, next stage is comfy as fuck. Gf and I have spent around 50 hours just fucking around in that phase, planning our assault on 2nd boss this weekend
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>>545624257
>please varg go back in your car.
It literally looks like a tree, and it's related to life.
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>>545641845
Thanks bro, I'll kill him tomorrow or I'm two days and enter the next step. Will I be able to make a boat and sail around after I kill it?
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>>545565093
>shitty pixel graphics
No
>shity blur
>shitty bloom and vaseline on the screen
>shitty chromatic aberration
Yes
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>>545632290
>shit eating analogy
It's like I'm still in 2008
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>>545642636
Change the settings then you fucking retard
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>>545559964
Giga redpilled
>>545559772
Fuck off you fecesminist apologist
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>>545642548
Yeah, you'll be able to build a sweet little boat with 4 storage slots. You'll need a bronze axe to harvest the birch trees though
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is it just me or is fishing boring as fuck in this game?
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>>545559772
PC gaming is dead. At 35 I have every right to say this with meaning because I have been around to see the rise and fall of many a golden age. PC gaming died upon the release of Rust. That ushered in the greenlight/early access scam that is PC gaming now. VR was PC's last excuse and it was just announced that the PS5 is going to have a new VR headset to rival/beat all the PC iterations. So basically, triple A vr games instead of tech demos for pedophiles. The only reason to buy a PC now is if you need one for work. Other than that, eat shit, your opinion is as note worthy as your young age.
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>>545643364
is it supposed to be fun to fish?
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>>545643920
well there's a late game consumable tied to it so you'd think it wouldn't be as boring as the real thing
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>>545643807
No one care about your 3rd world opinion, pajeet
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>>545593286
SHUT UP.
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>>545643807
drama queen
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>>545644105
>North American
>Pajeet
Racism is the new pc gamers (post millennium) choice when backed into an undeniable corner. Hey retard, how's that 10 thousand dollar doorstop treating you? Another day another unity project. Good thing you got all those tesla hydrogen cores in the 3090. Gotta Valheim to the extreme.
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>>545644410
Living in a delusion is not healthy. Take everything in life for what it is. Do not let lies created by pride waste effort and time.
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>>545644457
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>>545559964
> People are calling out a game that is popular for being shit
> reeeeeeeee
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>>545644585
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>>545559772

Its a good game, cry that you cant nostalgia pander anymore faggot
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>>545644575
I'd have to stop being 3d. Effort and time are lies.
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>obvious troll threads hit bump limit
Fucking hell, /v/
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>>545646041
How do you have a regular Valheim thread?
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>>545559772
>Another /v/ bait post about a popular game
This board is full of gen z phone posting virgins
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>>545645973
They only deceive as far as you would let them. Your concentrated resolve is the manifestation of your reality. Not the notions others set for you. Yes, PC gaming was legendary back in the day. The tech was utilized by top tier devs who made console games (although good) look like dated trash. The dynamic has completely flipped. Now console exclusives like the new GoW that is going to be released soon will make every PC game look like dated trash, for $500. Meanwhile a gpu alone is over 1-2grand, for early access unity projects that look like flash games.
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>>545559772
>tldr; state of pc gaming is a joke
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>>545646778
You were born after 2000.



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