FFXIV has transcended MMOs.
More like transitioned
It's not an MMO
FFXI is still better. thread destroyed
Only three more months till content!
>>54554241213 dollars a month
>>545542548damn you pay that much for your HRT?
>>545542505The mobile port is probably going to be awful, but is it still effectively in dev hell?
>>545542476why hasn't anybody sued square enix for false advertising then? it would be a easy lawsuit.
>>545542646I think it might have gotten canceled officially. I don't feel like looking for the articles, but I hope I'm wrong.
>>545542119...into a singleplayer jrpg(and that's a good thing)
>>545542528>3 more months til 2 hours of content>>545542646Mobile port was canned lol
>>545542119>FFXIV has transcended MMOs.
>>545542706ask Final Fantasy 7 ""Remake""
>>545542505I like XI as well, but this isn't the case.
>>545542709>>545542779It was bound to be pretty dumpstered with Nexon running it but it still would have been nice to potentially have a mobile MMO that was at least decent
>>545543516All of them are trash yeah
>>545543516Modern phones have more power than the pcs Brazilian people you play with use lmao
>>545542119This would imply it was ever an MMO during ARR
>>545543778Not everyone has a modern phone and if they do it's most likely not a flagship it's a shitty soc model.
Working my way through the post MSQ for ARR and doing Extreme trials as i go, shits fun despite the shitters not knowing mechanics, wiped 4 times on Garuda.
>>545542505Hows those Rose tinted goggles working out for you?
>He also noted that the end of the main “saga” that has occupied the game’s story since the launch of 2.0 may see a change to more self-contained and smaller stories, but the team’s current focus is entirely on finishing this story in a satisfying and appropriately epic fashion.The game engine is going to make the XI style life support suck isn't it?
>>545543778It's not about power, it's about mobile feeling like absolute shit to play on.
>>545544271Yep, it's already stretched to its limits.
XI webm anon here, dropping off a couple before I sleep.Here's where the Warrior of Crystal sees a possible future.
>muh gwaffixshut the fuck up
>>545545534And the follow up.
>>545545557>no knowledgeable members on team in regards to MMO>graphics subpar by PS3 standards>promised to patch things in the future to fix it and still has incomplete racesI'm thinking XIV is based
>>545545789I'm thinking you're retarded.
>>545545534WotG & Adoulin had so much fucking story crammed into their "MSQ" progression. Puts a lot of ARR's basic MSQ cutscenes to shame on the regular with use of one-off animations and just better cinematography all around. Hell even the new story CS from the current 6-man dev team is keeping that quality standard in check.
>>545546104nobody cares about xi you pathetic contrarian so stop bringing that literally who shit up to feel special
>>545542119got bored out of my fucking mind by the time i reached lvl36 and quit then. worth coming back to?
>>545546174Doesn't help that there's fuckall to discuss about XIV. Only thing I have left to clear is DR Savage, which is scheduled for later this week, and then that's it for the rest of Shadowbringers, short of a disappointing finale to the NieR alliance, and however they carrot-on-a-stick the MSQ tease that leads into 6.0.
>>545542505based as fucktrannies can't handle the truth
>>545544184>Queue for ARR extreme>Watch mentors shit themselves
>>545546174Based people care about XI, stay seething zoomie
>>545546174I can hear your autistic screeches anon
I'm sick of this XI vs XIV bullshit. They're both great MMOs. The FF community is such cancer.
>>545546813gosh if only you had a place to purely discuss XIVlike just all the time, in general, you know? recurring threads maybe
>>545546891are you pissed because xi has no general
>>545547060noare you autistic? I feel like you should be capable of picking up on what was posted
>>545547121unfortunately notplease elaborate
>>545542119Why do online games still look like shit though
>>545547230because fuck graffixfags
>>545546104Just imagine that before RoV, the current team had no idea how to use the programming tools.>>545546174I was requested to make some webms, and since there's a free login, I figured why not. I'm a fan of both games and am up to date relatively to both, and I know there's a few who do care.Besides, isn't somewhat interesting to learn from SE's MMO past to see how they do things?
>>545547230Optimized for content with spaghetti code, rather than 1.0's high graffix over content.
it's my favorite anime
>>545547376>I'm a fan of both gamesnot possible
>>545547591Different Anon but It is, but you'd have to go outside your echo chamber to see that
>zero exploration>shit pvp>transcending anythingnah it's a decent jrpg at best when you get by the coma inducing early game
>>545547501alisaie is the worst.
5.3 broke my soul
>pentamelded artisan crafting gear and all the tools/off handswell i guess i'm broke as fuck now but at least i can make stuff..
>>545548506>man this is some kino shit >go back to source in 5.4>see lyse>see rehashed sb characters>pirate fuckeryNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YAMATE WAKE UPPPPPPP. CANT WAKE UP .
>>545548765yeah wtf man
>>545547376>Just imagine that before RoV, the current team had no idea how to use the programming tools.They knew how. The problem was REing their own shit and writing it to not rely on a PS2 dev kit to compile. FFXI's cutscene dev engine (I forget its name offhand) all operated on a wholly separate PS2 program, and that was one of the main cruxes they had to overcome.I wouldn't be surprised if they just took the galaxy brain approach of using PCSX2
What the fuck is up with every mentor being a complete shitter at the game? How can you autistically work your ass off for it but still suck dick at even the easiest rotation or mechanics.
>>545548506cheer up anon
>>545549548i legit laughed out loud when i saw the fellow villagers look on at horror. >they looked on at horror but didnt try to stop it. some friends.
>>545544184>>545546725That's the stuff>Sprout and start with Heavensward and leave a queue for ARR extremes on>Clear Ifrit, Shiva, Ramuh and Titan this way>Seeing people get slaughtered by Shiva bow>Titan is self-explanatoryOnly good mentors I've seen somehow. Bothered to explain how things work and didn't leave, even when the timer was about to run out.>Seeing a few similar names pop up in extremes>Make a linkshell together>This cascades into doing second and final coils blind and experiencing the story as we work through encounters one by one>Shit like Thordan MIL and the entirety of Omega on MIL>Still in the process of progging the final fight of the tier blind, just like I did last tier fully blindI wouldn't know what I would've been doing in this game if not for those ARR extremes. Blessed clusterfuck runs to you, Anons
One can be a strange person without acting insufferable.
>>545542858Hang yourself like the other trannies
>>545549340because in SE's infinite wisdom, a crafterwho only played for 50 hours after level boosting is supposedly on par with a mentor that received 1000 commendations and completed 1000 dungeons.
>>545550560Crafting mentors aren't supposed to mentor dungeons, don't have no shame as persons?
Reminder you are gigantic pussies for complaining about ARR and its patches, that or you prefer memes to reality because these quest bits are neither long nor uninteresting.So do you hate fantasy worlds? You don't like stories?
>>545551036A lot of ARR is blatant filler. I was able to put up with it but I don't blame anyone for dropping the game.
>>545551036>Titan questline>Corrupted crystals questline>neither long nor uninteresting.
>>545551282was actually doing pretty well until the corrupted crystals npc laughed at me for wasting my time taking me out. then ti became a drag and the tataru job arc which i would normally welcome also became a drag.
this is easily the closest I've gotten a character to look like me in an mmo
>>545551247 It's not, events happen in the story.>>545551282 You're a fag who can't handle a quest.I redid the whole thing before the streamline just to make sure i wasn't forgetting how bad it was or something and i liked it again. So it's a drag for apparently a majority of players truly showing how tasteless the masses are. May you drown in convenience.
>>545551643hello? is this the based department?
>>545551643>Bad thing good!Yeah, figured that would be the extent of your input.Have a (You) that you are feeling so desperate for.
>>545551753Hello, no. It's a guy who likes fantasy stories, made up worlds and zanny characters.Good day.
>>545551854>good thing badBecause it's so loooong and boooring for me.
>>545551560I certainly hope that isn't true. For your sake.
In any case my reminder was made. Have a good thread.Unless you want to ask me about Eureka.
>>545552263Endwalker should just have the Eureka/Bozja style grind in the actual overworld.
>>545552449Ah fellow man of culture.
someone post the lyrics to the endwalker teaser theme I want to jack off
To me FF XIV like i am playing a multi season RPG game.Like if someone made a RPG that has the plot structure of game of thrones or a popular long running anime.Each expansion honestly feels more like a sequel than just an expansion.
What the hell do i do with my graduated Blue Mage, spare me the basic content please i need ideas i didn't think about.
>>545553270Yoshi-P wholeheartedly enjoyed you post. He's been comparing FFXIV to a TV show in interviews for years, he keep doing it.
i didnt like teh 3rd season of ff xiv. hopefully the 5 season is all new shit. no rehashed characters.brought back from the dead. we really need to see the new world anything new.
>>545553495Whatever happened to that XIV live action show?
>>545553392help your fellow guild members in pf.
>>545554158All the actors died, the end.
>>545554158Still with netflix but no solid news yet.
>>545546442depends on what bored you and what you need for fun. If it's a challenge, unless you can find some friends willing to do old content level-synched it's going to take a LOOOONG time before you feel challenged.If it's the story, you're literally on the cusp of it starting to get good. If it's standard gameplay (not necessarily difficult stuff), variety in gameplay expands at level 50... Provided you don't just beeline through the main story and take the time to do Binding Coil and Crystal Tower. Again, Binding Coil is way more fun level-synched, but good luck finding a group of players that don't want to run through it unsynced.
>>545545534>>545545610>>545546768But XI didn't have a blind suicidal catmommy prostitute as postergirl, so checkmate nostalgia fags
With how BLU turned out, you guys excited for Beast Master as a limited job?
>>545556791yeah, but only if's it's cap when it comes out is 70 at the least
Surely blue mage will be allowed in more content in the future.
>>545557139BLU is a minigame, sorry bro.
>>545557181It was only to test things out, to balance the job BEFORE introducing it proper.There'll be potency changes and it will take its place among the stars you'll see.
>>545554158Father actor died.
>>545557512NO KAMILLE WE'RE MCH CHADS DO NOT FALL TO THE BLUE TRAP
>>545557725didn't dad man survive but then the son got cancer and died?
what is the most braindead class in this game
>>545558662COOL VIBRATIONS I wanna dance I wanna dance
>See the new Endwalker trailer>Looks cool as fuck, great music>Remember how good the cast as well as the world is>play again to catch up with story content after 4-5 months break>have to port to Limsa>Remember how awfully autistic and embaressing the playerbase is
>>545558790STORY TIME OR SHUT THE FUCK UPi swear to god you posters are never fine, you bitch but never give details leaving it to all our reactions just being "ok."
>>545558790Its always Limsa or Uldah thats full of tranny erpers, no one likes gridania huh?
>>545558902>no one likes gridania huhWhich is weird as its objectively the most comfy place out of the three from the maingame.
>>545558902>benchwarmers erpers>that one guy playing legend of link music over and over and maybe an Evangelion song
>>545558902Gridania has shitty aetheryte crystal placement.
>>545542505>valkrum dunes>homeFuck the 14 faggots mmo is a dead genre now anyways
>>545559445Players AFK naked and sexmeme each other in chat it's because of the aetheryte-market board distance.
>>545559445to be fair ul'dah doesn't either
Job honestly for this feel?https://youtu.be/bGi7RV0rTxsNo trolling or anything I'm kinda curious if any job is really in the shed.
>>545542119Is it the game for me?>long time wowtard>got kicked from guild a few months ago because i told a gray-logging literal ewhore to stop wasting our time>social anxiety and can't make friends>literally nothing to do that's soloI played it for a bit, almost finished the trial, but the world just felt so empty and please don't hate me for this, but generic. I'll probably get used to it though.Basically, do I need to be a social person to have fun in this game?
>>545560707>wowNo get out of our game and fuck off.
>tank low level dungeon with sprout healer and can pull big>tank low level dungeon with veteran healer and can't pull big>vet healer gets pissy when you dieEVERY TIME
>>545560781I've abandoned WoW, anon. I'm sure I would be a good addition to your game.
>>545560707>Basically, do I need to be a social person to have fun in this game?You can literally run (many) dungeons with NPCs. They deal way less damage than real players, but I would say that XIV is pretty much the most anto-social MMO Ive ever played. You literally dont need to exchange a single word for the entire game.
>>545560781XIV is a WoWclone so this rivalry is the gayest shit ever.
>>545560707No you don't have to be social to have fun in this game, but that also depends on what you find fun. Also FF11 is pretty solo friendly.
>>545560902most vet healers can't function in lower level dungeons because they're garbage
>>545560781you're playing wow: weeb edition, get over yourself.
>>545560931Don't respond to bait anon.
>>545561036>>545560931>>545560905I don't care wow players are annoying as fuck. Leave
>>545557512That requires a minimum amount of effort which is why Hackshida won't do it.
>>545561089From the way you are acting it looks like the final fantasy players are annoying whiny teen girls.
>>545561226You're not wrong.
>>545542119I mean, the MMO parts of it are by far the worst parts while it's carried by everything else, if anything it just shows what a garbage genre MMOs are.
I don't care shut the fuck up about wow
>>545549882>leave a queue on for ex whorleater, navel, shiva>mentors are always the first to leave
Would it really hurt when classes that can heal like PAL, RDM or DNC would actually have heals that fucking matter? It pisses me off that they are so fucking stubborn with their DPS/Tank/Healer shit that under no circumstance they want to see any role being even a little bit competent at another role too. It would be pretty cool if you could be a good emergency healer as a RDM or, in unsynched runs, even a full healer and dps. Instead they got pseudo-heals that heal, like, 5% of the HP.
When do tomestones of poetics start dropping? I hit level 50 but they aren't dropping yet. Is it because I haven't finished ARR?
any leaks on what the new melee job is going to be? Reaper? Judge? whats your guess
>>545561567Healers would unironically throw a bitchfit if DPS could keep themselves alive, let alone other people. It shatters their god complex power fantasy.They already despise Clemency and only like RDM because of their rezzes.
>ffxiv>basically single player>all the classes feel the same, watered down>removed multiclassing to make it even more watered down and generic rather than improving the game to have reasons to use niche combos>tab target WoW combat>summoner has shitty looking summons and is boring>aoe spam tanking>have to play a fucking single player main story for 100 hours in an MMO>ffxi>every job has its niche role and is great for something different>unique combat system with weapon skillchains and magic bursts>summoner summons full sized eidolons, can call actual sized Shiva instead of some nerfed bullshit ass looking one>blue mage is a real job not a meme>same with beastmaster>community is nice because it's not a single player game, it's an MMO where you need a party at all times practically to level up>enemies and the world actually feel threatening because of death penaltyIf you like XIV better than XI it's because you are a dogshit casual player
>>545562165Healer here, I'd love if others could heal more and healers could get a little more DPS, it honestly sounds like it would make the game more fun.
Any tips on leviathan ex? Had to wait an hour twice just to fight it, and we wiped both times. Not looking forward to waiting another hour but it's a really fun fight when the whole party is in sync
>>545558790That’s the price you have to pay for a close market board and retainer bell.I do all my stuff at Cristarium and never ran into cringe, he’ll even the glamour people use are better over there.
>>545562346Truecast/arms length to negate the slam. Dont press the button too early. Kill the adds....look for spouts...pretty easy fight
If i use the trust system does it require everyone else to be AI or can I bring a buddy and two AI
>log into the game>immediately see this
>>545557512You probably don't want it to. You thought people not doing their rotation was bad? Imagine a level 64 BLU main with only four spells dropping into your queue.
>>545560781It's too late anon, much too late.The first immigrants came during Heavensward but like first waves foreigners always do they adapted to our customs, it's during Stormblood that the migration got out of hands.For games like MMOs there very much are cultures since culture emerges wherever people spend a lot of time together and WoW's culture was smelted by decades of abuse by Blizzard, it's a gnarly culture all twisted.They didn't even know what a loldragoon was, they took advice from nobody and many negative memes associated today with FFXIV are directly linked to WoW culture. I have examples.If only they could go back to wow the clearly superior game and play it forever.
>>545542505I love XI, but it's really not
Is it too late to level up a Blue Mage?
>>545562854It requires everyone to be AI.
>>545563059no just pop a pf.
>>545563059i see people in the party finder doing blue mage every day
>>545562876Yeah, thank Christ PLD is limited.
>>545560902>Healer gets hit by the telegraphed toad jump at the ledge after the first boss in Dzemael Darkhold, knocked off, and runs back up aggroing half the dungeon and we wipe>"tank pls pay attention."
>>545562805Those blue orbs that say spumes? Are you supposed to kill them or ignore and go for leviathan? One tank told us to ignore them and had them attached to him, while another said to kill them
>>545563207Oh yeah the wave spumes. Tanks pick those up and try to explode them away from other people. Also theres a red debuff on one of the tanks that healers need to be aware of, but theres enough space to do aoe heals and not get a stack.
>>545562876who the fuck cares. had a gay train doing shit in the lochs and saw like 3 people just dong water gun. p
>>545542119No, it's both a watered down final fantasy and a watered down mmo, the combination of whichc made one of the worst games to ever get a 90 on metacritic.
How important is ranking up the grand company? The hunting log looks really boring to do.
>>545563974it's not important at all.
is ravana the most based primal?
>>545564562No. WoL is
>>545563974You need second lieutenant if you want a house/apartment or, more importantly, unlock hunts.
>>545564562No, it's Susan.>Only around to have a good time and fuck off>Great theme across all three phases>Cool QTE>Wholeheartedly congratulates you for surviving his ultimate>WILD, AND PURE, AND FOREVER FREE
>>545555464But it did have mithra which are all superior to miqo'te.
>>545564562>Ravana>Is called upon when the territories of his people are in danger>Respects strength, and strength alone>Doesn't immediately squash you after your traveling companion got her ass whooped>waits patiently until you're ready so he can have a good fight >Susano>Comes out after you've successfully collected three pieces of the triforce>Lives for a good battle with revelry>Cackles, laughs and jests for the joy of it all>Judges the merit of your actions on a fight, and a fight aloneFor me, it's Susano. Because he doesn't care about the Kojin or anyone, except if they give a good fight
>>545565130I heard the housing is a huge nuiance to deal with, but is there cool gear if I rank up with the GC? I just got my level 45/50 gear from the class quest.
>>545565387>>545565160>>545565129I admit, Susano would be my 2nd pick.
>>545542185BasedFFXIV isn't even a FF game anymore, 90% of the player base mod the game so HARD and extreme that lost all the identity, its looks basically like Second life but with full of trannies and old grown men pretending to be woman with dicks.
>>545560707In order to enjoy this game like most people first you most be mentally unstable and play with your genitals off.
>>545565721>90% of the player base mod the game so HARDYou're retarded.
>>545560905Ey man, let me know what MMO you move on to. I'm ready to stop wasting time in the autism simulator of Everquest/Project 1999
>WoL is some Arab bloke
XIV is the only good visual novel
>>545565415If you want to look like an 'everyman' soldier, it's decent glamour, but you get the best looking generic NPC gear through the main story eventually. Stats-wise it'll be much worse than your AF gear from the job quests, so it's just for appearance.
>>545560707It's very watered down compared to wow. The world is completely empty just like if you're leveling in zones in wow. People are much more friendly so it's easier to make friends in the game. The end game community is just as bad if not worse than wow's though.Also you're not allowed to discuss DPS in game
>>545565415I guess it depends on your grand company and job. Pic related is Maelstrom elite from hunts. Tank, dps, caster from left to right. You can talk to your hunt billmaster or quartermaster to try out the gear, even if you don't have the rank to buy it yet.
>>545561567I loved it back in HW when as PLD I had access to Clemency, Divine Veil, Ressurection, Stoneskin and Protect and my Scholar had it's hotbar almost a perfect split in damage, support and healing skills that all saw ample use.It felt less shoehorned into archaic roles and more like a big toolset made for adventure where responsibilities could overlap.
>>545566127I'm a sucker for "everyman" gear actually.>>545566234Oh man that caster one is snazzy. I'm in Order of Twin Adder, I'll take a look at what theirs looks like.
>>545565981>Yeah you re retarded just look at this, of course it belongs to FFXIV.You never gonna be a woman even if you already cut off your penis.
>>545566234I like how the cat commander doesnt have that elitst crap gear and is just wearing the flower pot hat gear.
>>545566127i'm still annoyed that we can't get the light version of the crystarium gear set - the one without the pauldrons and visor
>>545566524Do you seriously believe that most of the playerbase even looked up a shader?
>random dungeon with my gunbreaker>pull a big pack and pop bolide>healer uses his big panic heal immediately
>Monthly subscription>Reskinned expansion packs to maintain relevancy where gameplay mechanics cannot>Gameplay purposefully designed to dull your senses>Cosmetic shop that utilizes real world currencySounds like every other MMO, where does XIV differentiate?
>>545567591It has a long story that fluctuates between mediocre to pretty cool. Don't get into it unless you have nothing better to do.
>>545566970Superbolide sucks but at least it will never be living dead
>>545567591>where does XIV differentiate?first MMO to make me actually shed a tear more than once
>>545567591everything amps up near the end of ARRthe story and characters are great voice acting gets a lot better
The main thing I wish XIV had is if jobs played differently from eachother. Like having different goals or entirely different styles of fighting. Like building and managing lots of small turret units to attack, controlling another thing to attack, or a ranged DPS that has distance sweetspots to do more damage.Even small things like a melee class with slower movement speed and unique movement abilities to work around it's speed, or a caster with 5 and 7.5 second cast times that hit really hard could feel fresh. Or some ways to interact with other players in fights besides a group damage buff.
>>545555464Is Shtola suicidal?
>>545558790Be glad they sequester themselves in Limsa.
>>545568378Every fake out death of hers is a 'cry for help' suicide attempt.
>>545568378I mean, she is trying her god damn hardest to get herself killed basically every patch.Maybe her prefrontal cortex is just underdeveloped, like a teenage boy, so she has a hard time calculating consequence.
>>545567824>Living dead becomes a trait>Applies a stack of weakness if HP is not restored to full instead of dieing>Applies a beyond death effect for 5 minutes when it activates, living dead can't activate during this timeIs it good or shit now
>>545542119I was telling everyone that the next expansion would have zones with a 20th century aesthetic. Feels good to be proved right now that Thavnair and Garlemald are confirmed
>>545563832Yoshida's a hack and doesn't deserve either Ishikawa or Soken. XVI's gonna be a dull mess.
>>545567824in normal dungeons or lower level extremes there is no way a healer would notice this lmao. at least it doesnt activate if you dont get to 1
>>545568750Yeah your post was pretty cringe. Learn to tie a noose and embrace the suicide statistic.
Male or female character, /v/?
>>545568873Imagine letting XIV live in your head rent free because it's popular
>>545568952I just stick with the default midlander with a slightly different face. It feels weird to try anything else.
>want mentor status>have to farm commends for it like a whoreI hate this
>>545569073>not a highlander face 2 chad
>>545569091>want mentor statusWhy?
>>545569235because I actually like teaching sprouts and people. I dont care even if I get the meme status. I also want access to NN again since it was pretty good on my server
How do i actually become a captain in my grand company? They are no longer selling me rank with company seals.
>>545568952Female if you're an attention whore, male if you don't want to deal with drama from said attention.
>>545569487Mentor status has nothing to do with teaching people. It was meant to be about that, but it isn't. It's a dunce cap and sprouts are quick to recognize that.
>>545568127Half Spaghetti Spughooty, half players complaining and half too lazy to deal with it all.
>>545542185fpbp xiv trannies blown the fuck out
>>545568952Male Au Ra with the edgiest possible glams and title available
>Tfw I like the First and its people way more than the Source>Tfw every moment in the source now feels like a downgradeFuck Ul'Dah, fuck Limsa, fuck Gridania, fuck Ala Mhigo, fuck Garlemald, fuck Doma, Ishgard's alright.I wanna go back to my friends in Norvrandt god fucking damnit.
>>545570278as a newbie, i hate mentors because every one ive met is a passive aggressive douche. but i still ask questions if I have them. i would welcome a mentor that isnt a douche.
>>545569576Do squadron dungeons, it's locked.You didn't think you could be a captain without actually captaining anyone?
>>545570327Oh no. The trolls are back
>>545570434dont forget, if you spent to much time in the source, your first shard friends will be old or dead.
>>545569091>farm commendsJust get them playing tank/healer. You only need 1500 so if you play healer nonstop you could get that easily running raids.
>>545570462Yes Im the warrior of light the idea that some regular guy who gives commands ranks above me after saving the rem several times is ridiculous
>>545570278might be just wishful thinking for me. No one listens to me usually when I explain stuff. At least I get access to NN
>>545570462ah jeez you mean with the literal 18 hour missions? thats bullshit
>>545570652>mfw play tank almost exclusivelyh-haha yeah just play tank bro
>>545570592I'll miss and remember every single one of them. Even Magnus.
>>545570717Give them a fulm they take the yalm!These WoLs dream themselves your masters but are they even men?
>>545570913no the dungeon ones
If Diamond Weapon's theme doesn't have a motiff or remix of Steel Reason then Soken loses his fried chicken privelages.
>>545571248well, as the WoL you can always visit them. but you need to let go sooner or later.
>heavensward: no zenos, good expansion>stormblood: zenos, bad expansion>shadowbringers: no zenos, good expansion>endwalker: zenos, ???bros...i'm scared...it's not looking good...
>>545571113I always get at least 3 commends being the tank
>>545568792Maybe if the healer is retardedOtherwise it should be pretty obvious
>>545570717doesnt mean you are capable of leading.
>>545562867>>545571659FUCK OFF FUCKING DAMN IT I'LL DO IT AGAIN
>>545571659>shadowbringers: no zenos
>>545571659>>shadowbringers: no zenos
>>545571878He literally did nothing this expansion but stole his body back and sat around
>>545565160>>545565387Wasn't Susano technically summoned by the wol, aka the primal fighting slut? No wonder Susano was sucking his dick so hard.
>>545571951He fucking prevented the Eighth Umbral Calamity.
>>545571938i mean sure he shows up in 1 or 2 cutscenes in shb but he's not exactly relevant to the story, anon
>>545572103He showed up to personally kill his dad and end the possibility of a black rose calamity and was the reason Elidibus fled to the First, thus being the reason we got 5.3 UltraKINO
If i'm tanking should I just pull as much as I can because I tried tanking today (haven't done this since Heavensward) and I ran into a healer that just stand there and does fucking nothing until Im almost dead
Its always funny how many people in a game with such a limited character creator think that their character is so unique, that they pay some nerds to draw them. Even better when they draw their sameface miquote in the fotm basic bitch glamour.
>>545572386>If i'm tanking should I just pull as much as I can yeah>and I ran into a healer that just stand there and does fucking nothing until Im almost deadare you dying? if you're not dying it's fine. there's 0 need to keep the tank at 100% health and healers who do so are shitters
SHUT UP ABOUT YOUR FUCKING HATRED FOR ZENOS. WE GET IT YOU HATE KINO FUCKK
>>545572573I'm not dying but I don't see them casting attack spells and I assume they are just talking on chat while I'm getting raped in the face. It seems like almost every instance I do no matter what job I always run into these types of healers.
>>545572057so, yeah. how does that work? does that mean that everything we and the graha tia did was totally pointless since the black rose wouldnt be used anyway? Or did destroying emet-selch stop him from saving varis?dont forget their is a timeline where the gas was used so how did our actions from 4.5 onwards lead to zenos killing varis?
>>545572772Who cares. It's just a dungeon
>>545572386Yes as a tank your goal is to pull as much as possible. Bu you gotta remember healers are self absorbed assholes who think themselves the best at all times. So if they cant handle a mob expect them to blame you have a break down and stop doing their job because every other class for some reason can make mistakes and move on while healers blame everyone else and actively stop the dungeon. I'm not sure why the job attracts people like this but its somewhat common
If you don't like the way someone's playing, talk about it in game and just mention something like "hey x, how you finding WHM, I always wanted to try it in savage." "hahaha yeah, they do a lot of damage especially with HOLY". Why take it here? Are we the healers not dpsing (yes).
Bros, Im not even gay but I still want to protect that smile.
>>545573292It's just pixels man.
>>545573046THIS had this happen to me the other day some healer died in a orange circle blamed the tank and refused to heal at boss until the whole team left.
>>545542119Memes aside, is this actually worth getting into? I've never played an MMO before
>>545573478there's a free trial
>>545572772Yes, that's common, but there's unfortunately no cure for your healer being shit.As a tank, if you're not dead, your job's done. It doesn't matter how low you get as long as you're popping necessary cooldowns to keep yourself from dying.
>>545573478It's the best mmo i've ever played in my life and it really has a good story for FF works easily as a good single player rpg as well as multiplayer game
>>545573478The free trial takes you through half the game.
>>545573478how social are you?>>545573456just kick then and don't make a big deal or just say "lmao broooo you actually getting mad?"
>>545553392most useful thing to do with blue mage is tear fates a new one for relic progression and the bicolor gemstones in shadowbringersyou can also boss with it if you want to
>>545572983this mentality is why most of the playerbase is dogshit at the game and why they refuse to improve
>>545573542idk you can just mention to them "sup healer, let me see them glare and holy". why are you so scared to talk in this game?
Don't you just love it when you run potd for your relic and you get grouped with 3 healers and none of them esuna you when you get pacified?Good times.
>>545571994Kind of. The Kojin had 2 out of Susano's 3 pieces gathered already, and we as the WoL just strutted in with the 3rd one. Then of course, a primal popped out of the artifacts, which were fervently prayed to, which we know focusses aetheric energy into them, combined with, as I recall, a scion mentioning the maguffiin we had was full of aetheric energy. This entire crockpot of obviously potent aether batteries summoned a primal! Who could've guessed?Though, I don't recall there being any reason Susano came out. I don't recall the Kojin specifically revered Susano, or a similar figure. It's entirely possible that the WoL, with theiir eternal lustboner for fighting, just projected a "I'm down to fuck up anything that wants to fight, give me a fight, I'm thirsty" and the artifacts reacted appropriately.I'm not sure who's more autistic about fighting now, the WoL or Zenos
>>545573741if you got a problem with it just bring it up, otherwise just semi afk with netflix and half ass your rotation.>>545573823did you mention for them to esuna you, maybe they just don't know?
>>545573046I Think it's pretty much agreed that healers are among the most self absorbed of the player base despite ironically playing a supporting class.
>>545568616neat idea but DRK is already kind of braindead, I don't think making the immunity passive helps
>>545546743I read that in her voice
>>545573895One of them was a conjurer so he gets a pass, the other two were scholar and white mage so they should know which debuffs can be dispelled an which cannot.
>>545573773they get furious
>>545574112people are ignorant and don't know healers are suppose to dps. yes the game tells you to do it, but people could be coming from a break and don't remember or whatever other shit. sometimes just a quick reminder "sup healer, use a dps skill" is all it takes.
>>545574112Shut up you worthless healslut, you should learn that there are healing buttons, not just 1 damage button.
>>545573895>if you got a problem with it just bring it upi've tried this, anyone who's still a shitter at 80 will not respond well to advice. i've literally been called an elitist for telling a scholar to use adlo instead of physick in matyoa's fucking relicti'll still give advice to sprouts because they're generally thankful and have the will to improve but if i get matched with retards in experts i'll just half-ass everything like you said
>>545574221at least you tried. better that then just bitching at it later after the run. >>545574182remember potd is an alt job leveling. some people honestly may not remember, just say in chat or poke them "sup can I get a esuna?" it's not big of a deal lol
Should I resub?
>>545574221This is exactly how you start a fight healers liable to flip out at any question of their skill
>>545574112I am going to punch every healer in the stomach.
>>545574394Nah wait until 5.55.
>>545574394There's currently a free login going on.
>>545574361just present it like you aren't attacking them. if you're aggressive or it can be "perceived" as aggressive, obviously people will get defensive. idk but if someone's using physick instead of aldo and you just randomly go "uhhhhh you're suppose to use aldo only never physick", they're going to take that wrong. If you're having problems getting topped up or some shit like that then kinda mention "ah healer, I played a bit of sch, and I find it easier if you aldo instead of physick" they'll be a lot less aggressive. it's all about the way you communicate your message.
Our sprouts are given too good looking gear. Erasing thsi rite of passage, how can they become one of us. If we were a mage we looked like homeless clown, a physical, a leatherclub member and if we tanked it was soda can fashion until we earned the right to look good.Outrageous. What kind of mentality is this?
>>545571696can we trade bro. I rarely get commended. Maybe my glam is shit or I dont speak enough. I just walls pull and do things. Never gets me commends though.
>>545542119I'm playing it after PSO2, i just finished ARR and I say it's just average, i still don't get why people say it's so special
>>545574609also if it's a female c@ don't bothernpc tier subhuman
>>545574609that's the thing, anon, i was nice about it - i said "hey sch you should try using adlo instead, physick is very low potency and is more meant for lower-level content" and they immediately sperged out about how i was being toxic and how it doesn't matter it's just a dungeonthat's when i gave up on trying to help people
>>545542505XI is superior to XIV is every way. More to the fights than "DON'T STAND IN BAD COLOR CIRCLE". Theme park MMO's suck ass.
>>545574674Akihiko Yoshida designed some great fucking stuff for the level 1 and level 15 gear. Kinda annoyed the other ARR stuff doesn't look as good. HW/SB is mixed. ShB fae dungeon gear is fucking top tier.Man I just hate how gear is so overdesigned so they don't mesh well if you want to mix and match.
>>545574907>hey sch you should try using adlo instead, physick is very low potency and is more meant for lower-level contentbro, lmao no wonder they got defensive. that sounds passive aggressive as fuck lmao. I know your intentions are good and you probably didn't mean to come off that way but lol.>>545574883It's the female unga bungas that scare me the most desu. (female viera/highlanders/roes)
>>545574674i've been using hall of the novice robes in my glam for years now because i have still yet to find anything better
Why isn't it mandatory bros?
Every single thread XIfags emerge to jack themselves off about how wonderful their game is, fucking obnoxious.
>>545573292What an ugly cat.
>>545575195Imagine the fucking meltdown if male Viera got shown.
>>545575156it's not hard to feel superior to xiv consumers
>>545575125>That sounds passive-aggressive to youHoly shit FFXIV players really are thin-skinned huh
>>545573478Play PSO2 faggot
>>545565721more like 1% of the player base, who cares what zoomer vrchat faggots do?
>>545575310yeah, but that's the internet in general. everyone thinks everyone's against them lol. people are escaping into mmos to just relax and play they perceive something as an attack they lash out.
Imagine a 2.0 classic server. No really, imagine it in its entirety as a thought exercise.
>>545565721I wish 90% of the playerbase was modding, would mean they're at least on pcIt's a lot of playstation players that take 10x as long to load into zones and can barely play
>>545574253thou doth not payeth mine sub
I mean remember the tank streamer that got mad and kicked someone out of his party because a lalafell slapped him? it's everyone in this game. everyone's on hi tensions.
>>545575538>yeah, but that's the internet in general.It's not, though. I play WoW and if some guy's fucking up you can just call him a retard until he stops fucking up. If something as innocuous as "hey you shouldn't use that spell because it's for lower level content" is percieved as an attack then FFXIV's community sounds pretty uniquely terrible
>>545573478It's more about if you like FF than if you like MMOs
>>545575608I'd prefer a 1.0 unironically.
>>545574253It's like going into a dota game and telling some smoothbrain to "play better"whistling dixie
>>545575756and usually they'll dps afterwards. just banter with them. people will usually respond better when it's just casual talk rather than someone berating you. >>545575814ah for fuck sakes.
I hate healers in this game so much. My static has been around for about a year and we've never had to kick someone out before we got this one awful SCH. All they fucking talked about was parsing, how they're a god for having oranges in Emerald Weapon and E9, etc. They barely ever heal and make their cohealer do everything. It was impossible to explain to them how meaningless their parses are considering how needlessly difficult they made the game for everyone with their shitty and inconsistent healing.Parses are a pretty great measure for DPS performance but it's pretty awful for healer performance. The orange numbers go to their heads I guess. FFlogs needs to change how it presents healer parses so they aren't encouraged to do nothing but Broil/Glare/Malefic. Maybe combine DPS and non-overheal healing into one performance measure and tuck away the pure DPS parses so they're still viewable but not the most obvious measure.
>>545575759Fahros? He's a SAM main actually
>>545574674wait vanilla gear got redesigned?
>>545576003well not exactly.play better is more "general" advicedpsing is literally one button lmao.>>545576035that was fucking funny as fuck. I thought he was hamming it in for the views and shit but he was actually pissed.
>>545576012>d-dude ffxiv players aren't t-terrible you just have to k-kiss the ground they walk o-on and make sure not to s-say anything potentially o-offensive and maybe they'll d-deign to learn the basic mechanics of the g-gameit's honestly really sad that this is your mentality
>>545575756That's an example imported wow culture.When did these memes started showing up?Seemingly out of nowhere, during Stormblood.
>>545576084Sprouts get the ability to dye and glamour at level 15 now. They don't understand the clown suit experience.
I really want to like XIV but I know if I resub I'll be bored out of my mind in a day or two without MSQ to do.
>>545576156stormblood was when they really started dumbing down the same
>thread makes me wanna be a healer so I can decide who lives and who dies>The prospect of having the power over life and death entices me a lotYou fucked up /v/ you have awakened something in me
>>545562963>The first immigrants came during HeavenswardImagine believing that ARRbabs are anything but an equivalent to WoWfags. Let me fix that for you. The first Immigrants came during ARR and you're one of them.
>>545542505I play retail FFXI and FFXIV. Most years I'm on FFXI for 3-4 months and XIV for 1 month. XI is more engaging to me. Lately been grinding Odyssey with THF/DRG, the new WSD buff from /DRG makes my THF hit big and jumping is fun. You can't get this kind of job customization with XIV.
>>545576242well its not like you have anything good to glamor unless you buy CEs or mogstation
>>545576152that's not what im saying bro. im just saying people on the internet are very thin skinned (i mean shit, if you explore around, you'll see some bitching about anything. every multiplayer genre games have people overexaggerating shit and causing drama.) I'm just saying people now a days take things at the worst. that's why even a friendly "hey how are you guys doing today" at the beginning of the dungeon will usually leave people less on high stress.
>>545546442kindaI just made my way through all of ARR's main story and to be honest if they had cut 90% of the content under level 40 it would have been a better experience. My god is the story fucking dull for the majority of the game. BUT it actually does get interesting at the end and has thus far stayed interesting through the post-game content.
>weekly reclears>start to hating the game cuz this last tier was fucking garbage and reclearing it just make me wanna kms>got back into ucob prog>game is fun againIt's so fucking weird how ultimates are 100x better than regular raid fights (even more than shitty eden raids. They're by far the worse shit i've ever experienced)
>new job is scythe
>>545576242>>545576084Lowbie dungeons got new, better looking drops all the way to aurum vale.Mostly minor redesigns of lowbie gear.
>>545576375i would play XI if it wasn't a dead game that needs trust system or pay people to do stuff.>>545576679Ching chong for you too.
I always like this phrase that someone used.FFXIV story does not get "good", it gets better.If you don't like ARR then you won't like what's yet to come. I found early ARR pretty good while the middle section was definitely a little lame. It catches up near the end though.
>>54557675875 cap private servers are where it's at
>>545572604Based fed up Zenosposter
>>545576292The memes anon. The tranny thing as well was a wow thing and it showed up here out of nowhere during stormblood or the great welcoming.
>>545576842I tried Eden server. It was pretty fun until i hit 10 and went for dune parties. I spammed group for an hour and got no invite. Never wanna do that again.
>>545571659Zenos is in all of those expansions, dumb cutscene-skipper.
>>545560914for the base game that's true, if you want to run endgame savage stuff you eventually need to at least listen to other people
>>545560914>less damage>laughs in squadron dungeons
>>545576371Many XIfags stayed through 1.0 and for 2.0 the demographic was mainly old XIfags with that FFXI culture and the codes, memes from that game.it was the only culture present at the time in ARR.
Why is this game so fucking soulless?
>>545576763that's blatantly false - half of ARR's story is you just running around with almost no context doing boring as fuck errands
>>545576427i mean sure it's good to be friendly and people shouldn't be dicks to others just for playing bad, but it really kinda seems like you're making excuses for all the shit players who refuse to improve by going "well they don't improve because people just aren't nice enough to them :(" and that's retarded, especially when you yourself admit that even actually nice messages can be perceived as attacks by these playerslike, you told telling that anon that his "don't use physick" message "sounded passive aggressive as fuck" when it was just bland friendly advice...at the end of the day it's not our jobs to walk on eggshells among people who are that hisitronic
>>545560707>got kicked from guild a few months ago because i told a gray-logging literal ewhore to stop wasting our timeDefinitely not, XIV trannyjannies are even worse than blizzard'sYou can literally get banned if you tell people they're dealing trash damage
>>545576763Read the wise words of this post. Wiser than 500 replies.
>>545577448wow just like the other expansions....
>>545571659I'm sure our goddess will make Zenos a good villian.
>>545567824Bolide is great if the user is smart about it and is activating it when they're already at critical health. Unlike LD and Holmgang, you're invulnerable for those 8 seconds. What actually makes Holmgang good is the short cooldown.
>>545577448Sorry mate you didn't pay attention and ran around without context.
>>545577448>doing boring as fuck errandsWEW just like......all MMOs?
>>545577501stop regurgitating this meme already lmao. you can mention it, you can't just say the numbers damn.>>545577485I'm not making an excuse for them, I'm just saying people usually take things at the worst face value. So if it's outta nowhere, they're gonna sperg. Just keep your ground, if they throw a fit they're never going to improve.
>>545576763>"Sup idiot, do you have an important urgent quest? No you don't, get me 3 buckets of weirdwood but before show them to an NPC for no reason, also you get said bucket from the OTHER SIDE OF THE COUNTRY, good luck Nutsack"
>>545576758>dead gameLots of people play dead games. There's more to MMO's than fighting over shit drop-rate gear with a bunch of autists.>TrustsTrusts and their combinations can be strategic. You also can't just summon them while in combat so if they die it makes it way more dangerous from you. You can also duo/trio and fill the gaps with Trusts. It's another way of getting to enjoy characters from all the XPAC's before it. >pay people to do stuffYou mean paying mercenaries for gear? You can get some of the best gear in the game just doing a world dragon for a week. Won't guarantee you a win but gear is certainly more accessible than paying people to get it for you.
>>545577612There's no saving him, anonAlso what the fuck is that thing on the right
>>545577501>you can literally get banned for being an asshole needlesslythat must be super fucking hard for you oh my gosh
>>545577675the context was "do fetch quest #99 for tiny oompa loompa #45 because we want to pad this shit out"The story got decent around level 30-40, almost everything before that could be dropped and it would just improve the game
>>545577824i thought that too but then 5.3 made fucking Elidibus work so i havent given up quite yet
>>545576030The only good healer metric is combined DPS.
>>545577814tbf i would try it if FFXIV sub could be used on FFXI but i'm sure that would never happen.
>>545576030When i used to play WoW healers were measured by healing parse and overhealing being as little as possible. Then i got here and i see healers get excited by 99 dps parse. Like what the actual fuck.
>>545577824>Also what the fuck is that thing on the rightel goblino graha
>>545578245Because in XIV everyone is a DPS with either a kit that enhances this DPS, lets them take hits better, or lets them heal. XIV encounter design is about using GCD healing as little as possible.
>>545577751>stop regurgitating this meme already lmao. you can mention it, you can't just say the numbers damn.Tranny cope, telling people to do more damage is "compelling a playstyle" and is specifically prohibited by the ToS
>>545542119>tfw you're talking about shaowbringers in shout>accidentally type it as Op's picI'm going to get muted in ffxiv aren't I now?
>>545576763There entire MSQ is good, but you have to take your time and really enjoy it. People always gives the most horrible fucking advice in these threads, always telling new players to rush to ShB. That's a sure way to get people to skip cutscenes, or not pay attention. ShB is the best experience so far, but it's also the latest. I enjoyed every other expansion as well, I'm sure Endwalker will continue the trend of getting even better. I wish people who hated the other expansions would shut the fuck up and stop trying to tell others what to think, but then again people should also learn to think for themselves. I didn't need some angry cucks from /v/ to tell me how to enjoy the story and I've liked pretty much everything about it.
>>545576758Still worth it to complete the story solo.
>>545578436show me a screenshot of someone in the gaol recently in the last month or so about someone who bitched about someone's damage.
>>545577485>>545577751Reading this convo from outside, you guys are both saying the same thing. from a few posts earlier moving foward.I'll just add something: a lot of these bad players are socially inept and blame their childish denial of improvement in some made up mental condition, the GMs are trained to understand and work with this basis.So always just add one retarded yet effective "I am politely"[whatever the message is].This is enough to make any GM throw the fake reports into the trash and to make the other players, as long as they're not both buttbuddies, pile on the retarded screecher.Dumb PC culture can be swayed both ways.
>>545577675>Before fighting titan>Go search for previous heroes who killed it>Waste time on a fake fuck face>Find the leader>"Uuuuh go find the real 5 ones">Proceed to get shoved all around the continent five times"I-i did it boss, will that help me to kill titan?">"Nah, all of that was pointless we did it just to fuck with you""Ok can I fight Titan now?">"No, let's party for no fucking reason, what? Did you wanted us to HELP YOU? HAHAHAHA get fucked kid, fight it alone"I wish I had skipped all of those cutscenes anon
>>545576763I think there were only a few parts of the story that get kinda slow and fetch questy, but every expansion has a section like that and it's really not a big deal.
I'm still way off from Shadowbringers but is it worth leveling DK for it? Does it have some extra dialogue like Dragoon did for Heavenswald?
>>545578508yeah honestly, I always give the advice to take your time rather than streamline the way to ShB. 1. less chances to burn out2. it actually feels like an mmo3. you can eat all the content without suddenly being at ShB but don't have the gold saucer, and other stuff unlocked.
>>545578551>if someone didn't post a screenshot on plebbit within the last month then it doesn't happen!!!Nigger SE tells you themselves right there in his screenshot that you can be gaoled for it. Stop riding GM dick.
>>545578435I know even old FF games healers had offensive spells. But it really should be inversed. They should use offensive GCD as little as possible. In reality i'm not a healer main so i don't care that much tbqh.
>>545577612Zenos has always been good, and you're a stupid cuck weeb.
>>545577912At lvl 25 when you fight Ifrit is the point where it gets kind of interesting, the story has not entered its pstrides yet but interesting shit happens when you fight Ifrit.Fools get tempered, big scary monster, nero's there to hint at something brewing against you, you've joined the scions and met them, it's the first hook.Around level 40 in Mor Dhona is when it gets real, that's when one can know if they're going to like the rest so even if the start whacks you with world building (which is necessary and can't be removed) the story before Revenant's toll is not complete shit.
>>545577853You can literally feel the estrogen in this post.
>>545578602Yeah I definitely agree. I think the problem is when you run into the other side of the problem. If you're too casual and go straight up "hey bitch, use your fucking healer damage spell or i'm gonna throw you out the party haha" that won't work either. it's just like talking to a stranger in real life except they don't have the body or voice language to realize if you're joking or not.
>been spamming quick ventures since 2015>still no Peregrine Helm
>>545576763i didn't like arr, hw, or sb (they all had their moments and they were tolerable enough to not skip cutscenes but none of them were ultimately that interesting) and i thought shb was actual fucking kino and it's one of my favorite game stories everglad i stuck with it
>>545577824More like there's no saving you and your shit taste. Enjoy Zenos' game, and remember to preorder.
>>545578770SE also says they'll ban anyone who mods the game, and we all know how that's turned out
>>545578770okay so where's someone who's been gaoled for saying someone does too little damage?
*distinct crinkling in the distance*
>>545578808>Zenos has always been good>look mom i'm a contrarianIt's a shit old school villian. They're used to be like that cuz writters didn't give a fuck back then but it's just too bland rn.
>>545578641I bet you don't even do sidequests.
>>545578792>They should use offensive GCD as little as possibleWhy? You say yourself that in WoW they're judged by minimal overhealing. It's the same here, it's just that they further assist the party with damage when they're not needlessly healing.
What's the deal with the drama in Balmung? I keep hearing about an argument between regular players and rp'ers.
>>545579117Because then when SE actually gives you a fight that you need to use your brain and heal like anon said on first post or in any ultimate fight they just gonna sperg about their dps parse.
>>545579050They have no way of knowing you've modded anything unless you go post it on twitter like a retard.
>>545579087Zenos has never been bland or bad, you're just a brainlet who needs everything spelled out for you. Even if he didn't have any complexity, he's still exciting because he's a character that doesn't give a fuck and does whatever he wants. The writers seem to let him have full agency, which is cool and refreshing. Any way you look at him, there is nothing bland about him. You're just coping and probably have some jealousy towards him because you hate prettyboys and got your ass beat twice by him.
>Have 305/316 Triple Triad Cards>One of the cards I'm missing is Varis >You can only get it from his EX fight that nobody does anymoreThey gonna add an NPC to duel that has his card, right?
>>545579238laugh and scream worldstar. trust me it's fun to watch the autism rather than be on a dead world with nobody.
>>545579304>he's still exciting because he's a character that doesn't give a fuck and does whatever he wants. The writers seem to let him have full agency, which is cool and refreshing.Yeah, him sitting on his ass for the last three years mumbling about how he'll meet us again soon is really thrilling.
>>545579331I literally did Memento Miseria last week. If you throw up a PF on some of the more active time slots you'll definitely still find people who run it for glamour.
>>545579304I hope this is a bait
Susano and Ravana are better Zenos than Zenos.
>>545579050You can actually get ERPers banned if you make em admit in game about using mods, moreso, they will ban dumb dumbs at twitter who post their char name and modded pics.The only truly untouchable people are the Clear sellers, it goes a long way knowing the SE manager which happens to live in your neighborhood.
>>545579304>. Even if he didn't have any complexity, he's still exciting because he's a character that doesn't give a fuck and does whatever he wants.wow turns out what he wants is to sit around staring vacantly into the distance and speaking in a bored monotone about how bored he is! characters with simplistic motives are fine if they're actually interesting to watch - look at fandaniel, his motivation is literally "i want to die lmao" and he's a great villain because he's entertaining and every scene he's in is more interesting because he's in it. zenos is boring, he's boring to watch, and he actively makes every scene he's in more boring>Any way you look at him, there is nothing bland about him.there's no way you typed this unironically
>>545542185dING DONG DIDDLY BASED
>>545579396Yeah, you are unironically just coping. He did more than us in one fucking cutscene than we did in almost an entire expansion. >killed his dad>prevented another Calamity, got rid of Black Rose>had a cool faceoff with Estinien/Gaius tagteam>got his body back>sent Garlemald into disarray>got the throne back because he was bored or something>is getting a new weapon/the new classNot to mention how much more powerful he seems to be. He scared off and Unsundered, and has an ability that only two other Ascians (Hythlodaeus/Emet) had. He's undoubtedly way stronger than us again. Can't wait for him to beat WoL again, so people like you lose your mind.
>>545542119I like the game dude but it's a tab target hotbar mmo, it does things competantly but there's nothing revolutionary or fancy about it
>>545579592I love reporting modders.
why the fuck do you guys hate zenos so fucking much god damn.>>545579592if you really want to fuck up clear sellers I came up with this fool proof plan.>go message all the clear sellers on discord about their prices>once you get all their prices, make an alt account. >either pay an extra $12 to make another PF online shouting ALL their IRL prices, or keep screaming in limsa their prices>watch them burn to the ground from infighting between the groups.
she's behind it allthe ultimate baddie
>>545579726>HE'S STRONGER THAN US! THAT MEANS HE'S A GOOD WRITTED VILLIAN!!!!LMAO at (You) my boy.
>>545579304>Even if he didn't have any complexity, he's still exciting because he's a character that doesn't give a fuck and does whatever he wantsare you literally 14?
>>545579460Great argument.>>545579664read>>545579726and literally no one fucking likes Fandaniel, so if he's what you consider an interesting and great villain, then you're opinion is completely invalid and you have shit taste confirmed again.There is literally nothing bland about Zenos, you're just an angry brainlet.
>>545579825holy shit this is genius
>>545579948>and literally no one fucking likes Fandaniel(You)
What the fuck is this shit bros
>tfw just finished 5.3
>>545579948NO ZENOSCHAD THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO FIGHT AGAINST FANDANIELCHADS. (fuck you though fandaniel is gonna be fun) STOP IT.
>>545580031the mans a nihilist, that sounds exhausting.
Why do erpers keep fucking involving me. This shit is annoying as fuck.
>>545579331There are PFs for his fight up all the time, what are you on about?
>>545579825>why the fuck do you guys hate zenos so fucking much god damnAnon, do you really have to ask? Most of the cucks who hate him are just angry losers who can't read. They have zero valid reasons for hating him and keep repeating the same shit and wrong opinions in every thread. They're clearly just angry because he ruined their power-fantasy or because they're mad their shitty favorite characters aren't getting the spotlight instead.
>>545562165As a healer, the only reason I despise Clemency is because it's a DPS loss. Most times a tank gcd is going to be worth more DPS than one of my gcds or one of my ogcds. Same with vercure, better for them to be casting a jolt instead of it. Not to say there aren't times for a clemency/vercure, but since the heal's so bad it's not worth it most of the time.
>>545579948>There is literally nothing bland about Zenos, you're just an angry brainlet.
>>545579252Spamming your weak single target heal on the tank isn't better design than using your damage spell. You might not like it, but XIV encounter design is such a way that it rewards being proactive and planning, this is particularly true in previous expansion where MP management wasn't largely a non-issue.The core issue is healers's oGCD kits are a little too comprehensive and not only do they keep doubling down every expansion, but the encounters are more accommodating about it. Encounters like Godka forced a fair bit of GCD healing since the interval between AoE spells was too frequent and hard hitting for oGCDs to cover everything, and there hasn't really been a fight that healing intensive (barring TEA) since.
>>545542185B A S E D
>>545579948the problem with zenos is we're going to fight a bbeg who we already had an entire arc and expansion for and then soundly defeated, and whose motivations are extremely shallow even compared to gaius back in 2.0
>>545580173>finish a POTD run>two degenerates going at it in the in-between-dungeons space>one of them /tells me "hey sweetcheeks"
>>545579948>and literally no one fucking likes FandanielAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHzenos is going to get betrayed by fandaniel and die and you're going to pay 60 dollars for the privilege of watching it!
>>545579825Zenos was great, and had a great conclusion in 4.0. I hate the devs for bringing him back because my emotions feel cheated, same exact thing with gosetsu too. Cheap "death" scenes are what piss me off.
>>545580394well post your ass then? what are you waiting for?
>>545580394did you /tell them hey gorgeous?if not you are gay.
So is it okay to start as Archer as a newbie or no? I was told that was the easiest class for newbies
>>545579926That is part of the reason his character is so great, but thanks for confirming that you're just mad he kicked your ass and have no valid reason to hate him.>>545579928I can tell you're low-IQ and illiterate because you fail to understand that I'm speaking from a narrative and writing point of view. Yes, it is very refreshing and exciting to have a character that the writers let do whatever he wants and isn't bound by the same boring rules and formula pretty much every other character/villain has been thus far. >>545580031Even Yoshi-P knows that he's hated, you contrarians with shit taste are the only people who try and meme him because you have zoomer-tier shit taste.>>545580104>FANDANIELCHADno such thing. Fandaniel is pretty cringe, but he's somewhat entertaining. glad Yoshi confirmed he's just a plot device, though. Sick of Ascians at this point.
>>545580394That's what you get for being on such a low floor.
noooooo not my emotionsbruh.
>>545580482they did this again with thancred in shb and it really pissed me offif the writers don't want to kill anyone off ever again fine but jesus christ stop giving them emotional death scenes just to undo them 10 seconds later
>>545580482>same exact thing with gosetsu too.Gosetsu surviving was the whole point. He wanted to die to find an easy way of escaping his sins rather than properly facing them. It was a major theme of that expansion. "Dying's easy, living's the hard part."
>>545580394thats when you emote whipping out your dick and letting it unspool and slam into the floor, if ffxiv smut has taught me anything your characters gender does not matter for this.
>>545580653>That is part of the reason his character is so great, but thanks for confirming that you're just mad he kicked your ass and have no valid reason to hate him.
>>545580241Great zoomer/reddit response. You're really making a great case for the people who don't like Zenos.>>545580373There is no problem with Zenos, and Endwalker isn't even out, you have no idea what is going to happen. I highly doubt they'll do repeat everything. >soundly defeatedHe killed himself, and is undoubtedly way stronger again at this point.>muh deep motivationsHe has motivations, you just choose to ignore them and flanderize him so you can shitpost.
>>545580650Its a fun class once it gets going, but it doesn't perform very well at level 80 currently.
>>545580650Do what you want cause a newbie is free. You are a newbie.Every job is cool and good so pick one you think looks cool. Even black mage the job's just about doing explosions.
How do we fix MCH
>>545580903>He has motivations, you just choose to ignore them and flanderize him so you can shitpost.>listen to my headcannonLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>545542119yes... into a single player game
>>545580941it's perfect. maybe add either the overheat or ammo system back.
Is SAM actually good or do I just think its good because im a nothing personell kid weeb
Hey guys it's me, you're old friend and leader of Ishgard, Ser Aymeric. Just want to wish you all a good day for your defense of Ishgard, and anything you need will be provided.
>>545581112are you good?
If this game had semi-decent pvp with fast queues I'd play so much, never thought I'd miss random battlegrounds after playing xiv endgame
>>545580653>>>545579926>That is part of the reason his character is so great, but thanks for confirming that you're just mad he kicked your ass and have no valid reason to hate him.>>>545579928>I can tell you're low-IQ and illiterate because you fail to understand that I'm speaking from a narrative and writing point of view. Yes, it is very refreshing and exciting to have a character that the writers let do whatever he wants and isn't bound by the same boring rules and formula pretty much every other character/villain has been thus far.>>>545580031>Even Yoshi-P knows that he's hated, you contrarians with shit taste are the only people who try and meme him because you have zoomer-tier shit taste.>>>545580104>>FANDANIELCHAD>no such thing. Fandaniel is pretty cringe, but he's somewhat entertaining. glad Yoshi confirmed he's just a plot device, though. Sick of Ascians at this point.
>>545581112No, it's good, it's just got this rep as an "easy" job so absolute shitters are also drawn to it and they will fuck up any job regardless of "difficulty"
>>545580482I feel the opposite. I was annoyed that they killed Zenos off right when I was starting to really feel for him ,and I felt like he was wasted potential. His death was beautiful and haunting, but I'm glad they brought him back. >>545580480Even Yoshi-P said he knows everyone hates Fandaniel, it's only cringe zoomers and contrarians that try and meme him. And no, Yoshi-P confirmed Fandaniel isn't the last boss, and that Zenos will take center stage again. If you actually pay attention to cutscenes, I can't imagine how delusional you have to be to not see how important Zenos is and think he's going to be sidelined for a lackey like Fandaniel. He's so irrelevant they didn't even give him his own face, meanwhile they can't stop giving Zenos new outfits/weapons.
>>545580394That's exactly what happened to me wtf. Maybe it was the same duo.
>Elid is a kid and Emit wanted to guide him
>>545580941CD that gives 50 battery. Maybe rework flamethrower.
>>545542119started playing on free trial, just hit lvl 10 as pugilist and liking it so far. Might even get a starter pack and play regularly.should I know something ahead before fucking myself up?
>>545581251 tbf all jobs are easy except BLM
I wish this game had a hyperbolic time chamber so I can test out my opener. I hate fucking it up and then having to wait 2 minutes for my CDs to come back.
>>545580653why are zenosfags literally all like this? why is there not 1 normal person who enjoys his character?
call me a poorfag but if this game were $10/mo or so then it would be a whole lot better. definitely one of the best MMOs Ive ever played, but wow it is an investment
>>545580889>>545581021>>545581230If you can't even pretend to have two braincells to rub together, you're not getting any more (You)s from me.
>>545581475Go to Eulmore and pick up the SSS quest.
>catgirl>mentor>the perfect legend>casual attireHere's your pf leader for the night
>>545581365For pugilist and later monk, a significant portion of your damage is dependent on you hitting the enemies from specific positions. Make sure you're doing it. Also be sure to call out any tank whose spinning the boss like a retard.
>>545581439I cannot begin to imagine how FFXVI's feels will be.
>>545581482What is normal to you? Look at every braindead Zenoshater in this thread who can't even forumlate a proper post and only knows how to seethe and shitpost. Not everyone wants to bandwagon and repeat the same wrong nonsense. I'm not going to apologize for actually being "normal" and having some common sense to think for myself and pay attention to the story. You want me to apologize for being fucking literate and not wanting to shitpost all day? Nah, you can choke. I'm going to enjoy Zenos' game, and his character. You can seethe and try and fit in with these mentally ill losers, but that only shows what a pathetic cuck you are.
>>545581475Queue for ifrit normal unsycned and leaveThis resets the cooldowns
Should I try SAM or stay SMN?Never played a melee in Savage and it seems hard but I like big number.I tried BLM and didn't really like it.
>>545581557yeah but don't you have to go talk to an npc to reset? I wish there was just a simple press a button and it'll just automatically reset you.
>>545581365Use the Limit break in dungeons. It's not precious.
>>545581814wait a minute....
>>545581182After all I've done to this place you're still going to charge me for a house? Really Aymeric?
>>545581529honestly it's a pretty greedy business modeli don't mind paying a monthly sub to avoid f2p bullshit but when they also have a cash shop with insane prices and when they charge you for basic shit like extra inventory space it starts to feel a little jewishthe fucking mobile app that lets you manage your inventory costs 5 bucks a month
>>545581535character is shit and bland. His motives are like old villians and you might get an orgasm for trying to revive those days but it's shit writting. Either way he's going to be fixed by Ishikawa on endwalker. Fandaniel is much more interesting since his personality is much more appealing. BUT this doesn't mean fandaniel is a good villian. He's just much better than zenos since zenos have nothing in favor.
>me as a Lv80 paladinI'm thinking I'm based
>>545581834PLaying melee is a torture in any fight that's not an ultimate. Stay in your privilaged job
>>545581813and a pasta is born
>>545581834Melees in general are great in savage. You can do some snazzy movement with SAM and still be optimal.T. Played SMN in 1-4, got bored, picked melee and never looked back
>>545582138>YEAAYEAAAAH YEA YEAAAHH
>>545581369Oh come on whats hard about blm? I keep it leveled and geared just for dungeons because chaining an asston of flare's together in a full pull is it's own reward.
>>545582314YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE da moon
>>545582525He already has the space suit.
>>545581529>one of the best mmos ever played>is a single player game with minimal interaction with other players
XIV has been shit since ShB play BC WoW instead
>>545582314i hope the full theme outdoes shadowbringers but i dont think it will
>>545582512After you answer to this keep in mind:1.- All jobs are easy if you play them like you don't give a fuck about dps2.- Keeping in mind previous point. BLM is only hard if you want to do high dps since there's a lot of rules that you don't need to break to be able to get as many dps as a SAM. Otherwise you drop into tank dps territory.
>>545544184>doing shiva extreme as bard and with my whm friend>dragoon and sam obviously asleep at the wheel>mentors losing it over them>eventually refuse to revive the drag and he complains about it>flaming back and forth in chat>Still manage to do the bossExtremes have been the most fun for a reason
>>545582616TANK PRIVILEGE HE CAN BREATHE IN SPACE
>>545582138>Serious moment during the amaurot reveal>CLANG CLANG CLANG CLANG CLANG echoing through the long halls>Emet trying very hard to speak louder as he's interrupted by anon turning his entire body to look at literally anyone as his neck is glued to the suit
>>545582090>His motives are like old villiansYou already posted this. Repeating yourself doesn't make your non-argument any more credible than the last time you shit it out. >he's going to be fixed by IshikawaHe doesn't need to be fixed, he was already great. And Ishikawa has been writing for the game since HW. If you think she has never touched Zenos when she talks about him as if she worked on him, and even wrote Emet to be the opposite of him then you're a bigger idiot than I thought. Funny I see people saying things like "Zenos only sits in a chair", but you are aware that Ishikawa was the one who wrote him in ShB? So she's the one to "blame" for him sitting in a chair. You contradict your own arguments, if you ever even manage to form one in the first place. >fandaniel much better than zenosIf you actually think this, you have to accept that you are in the minority and have shit taste. Your opinion is so bad, everything you type should actually just be invalidated. But thanks for further confirming that the people who hate Zenos are even more of a fucking laughing stock than I originally though if Fandaniel is what you like in a character.
Which NA data center to play on if I want to actually enjoy the game outside of the MSQ?
Nobody's going to believe me and they'll think i'm full of shit now that the trailer dropped but for 2-3 years i've notice the moon in game growing ever so slightly bigger.I first noticed a bigger moon in The Steppe but in other areas the moon sprite has grown from what i was years ago.Goonight thread.
>>545582217>t. mentally ill, triggered loserCope.
>>545582853That's just cruel man.
Ran'jit? Yet to be surpassed.
>>545561567Those heals are for solo content, and are equivalent to the self-heals melee get. The only reason they're targetable spells is because they're magic users and its thematic.I won't claim I've never healed a dungeon as RDM when a shitter healer gets booted, but to make it an "official" part of the class would fuck up the class dynamics and put a lot of extra strain on that class. RDM players already have to play at peak just to pull decent dps, they don't need to get shit on for not healing too
Still in ARR this mother Crystal is suspicious. She isn't gonna end up being the big bad right? Like some bullshit about a world of pure light being unbalanced or something.
>>545583072based, your average cutscene skipper can't understand the gripping depth of ran'jit's complex motivations or his thematic relevance to the larger plot of shadowbringers
>>545582904>You already posted this. Repeating yourself doesn't make your non-argument any more credible than the last time you shit it out.and you keep repeating that everyone is assblasted cuz he's stronger than us? you just sound like an hypocrite faggot. >Zenos when she talks about him as if she worked on him, and even wrote Emet to be the opposite of him then you're a bigger idiot than I thought.Source: Trust me dude>If you actually think this, you have to accept that you are in the minority and have shit taste. Your opinion is so bad, everything you type should actually just be invalidated. But thanks for further confirming that the people who hate Zenos are even more of a fucking laughing stock than I originally though if Fandaniel is what you like in a character.Repeating yourself again. Wow zenofags are really easy to beat.
>>545583203You're only suspicious of her because RPGs have trained you to be suspicious of good entities.
>>545581668thanks for the picture fren. I've figured the need for positioningbut didn't exactly know "where" flank starts and ends. I've been circling around mobs like a retard thinking I'm actually dealing more dmg.>>545581981I will when I enter one.
>>545583145>he's never saved a run with clemencyThey absolutely matter.
>>545583304The difference is you keep repeating non-arguments and it doesn't take a genius to see that you're just an angry, jealous loser. I'm actually posting real facts and arguments, you just keep ignoring it so you can repeat yourself and shitpost because you apparently lack the mans to properly address anything I say.>no uisn't an argument. Thanks for trying to evade the Ishikawa stuff though, I already knew you are the real hypocrite. You praise her, but you're so fucking stupid you fail to realize that your main complaints of Zenos "all he does is sit!" are literally written by her. Fucking idiot.
>>545583950>being an hypocrite again>real facts with no sourceEz
>>545583571Yeah. Soloing on monk is kind of annoying. You should have got a stun at level 10 that can let you get a couple good hits off though and at 50 you'll get a cd that lets you ignore positionals for 10 seconds.
>>545572604there is nothing kino about that fetal alcohol syndrome "fight me irl" fujobait