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Who is the Frank Grimes of vidya?
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Did the Sneedsons add Filthy Frank as a cameo? Based.
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remind me again what happened in this ep
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>>533087729
actual human was placed with cartoon
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>>533087729
Frank gets mad at someone more successful then him because he believe he doesn't deserves happiness. and then Frank fuck hookers and abandoned his child.
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>>533086979
The idiot that comes here posting that ninja gaiden is shit. Everyone filtered him
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>>533088292
>because he believe he doesn't deserves happiness
what
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>>533087729
This homeless kid grows up, goes to college and becomes one of Homer's co-workers at the nuclear plant. He sees Homer's flagrant disregard for the job and even his own safety and wonders why the fuck anyone would put up with it. Meanwhile Homer either annoys him mildly or tries to befriend him and that doesn't work out. Homer even invites him for dinner to apologize and start over but Grimes sees Homer is more well off than he is despite his hardwork and education. Grimes' life is so shitty he lives in a bowling alley. Finally Grimes tries to humiliate Homer by having him enter a Die-O-Rama contest for kids and Homer wins. The praise drives him off the deep end before he finally grabs some electrical wires in an attempt to mimic Homer and kills himself.
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>>533087729
That dude spents the whole episode seething because Homer is based
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>>533086979
Sneed Grimes
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>>533087785
>>533088292
>>533088580
>>533088806
>>533088783
Reminder that it's the second highest rated episode of the show
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>>533087729
>"I don't need safety gloves, because I'm Homer Simp-"
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>>533089080
what was s6e3
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>>533089236
Clipshow
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>>533089080
Wtf not a single green in the later seasons its that bad?
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>>533089336
Yes, it's unfunny, wacky and ruined the characters.
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>>533089080
>3.9
what the fuck
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>>533086979
How old was homer? 38? I turned 35 this week and my life is almost exactly like his except my job is better.
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>>533089496
Lady Gaga
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>>533089496
Lady Gaga episode.
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>>533089080
season 11 episode 5 is not 10 its 7.8 on imdb, what are these numbers based on?
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>>533089080
>looks up season 11 episode 5
God damnit
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>>533089550
do you have 3 kids?
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>>533086979

It's the Sonic the Hedgehog games. He will always play second fiddle to Mario, despite having more polished games up until Sonic Colors.
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>>533089080
>5 to 7 is bad
>7 to 8 is average
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>>533089496
Makes sense lol
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>>533089080
were recent seasons of the show actually worse than the early post golden age seasons 9-13 or was 10s culture just inherently more nauseating than late 90s-early 00s.
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>>533089336
They started mimicking the humor of family guy instead of the other way around. Ive seen a couple episodes and it was so fucking bad and unfunny. Of course for the last 10 years its been wokeshit.
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>>533088783
So what you're saying is, /fit/ is Frank grimes?
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>>533089613
really anon?
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>>533089613
It's an edit where Sneed is 10. Everything else is real.
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>>533089613
>season 11 episode 5 is not 10
maybe you just didn't get the jokes
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>>533089697
2 rn but ill have another soon. my wife is 27 so theres no reason not to have more.
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>>533089007
That looks like Jeff goldblum
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>>533089550
lmao same. its so funny how much shit you can get away with once you are "in" the company
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>>533086979
Adachi
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>>533089852
They are worse, Mike Scully seasons (9-12) ranged from good to mediocre while Al Jean seasons (13-present) are boring shit with barely anything good in them.
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>>533089080
>Not a single green episode from 13 onwards
>Not a single yellow episode in 30 and 31
Who the fuck watches The Simpsons any more?
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>>533087729
Frank Grimes is a typical person put into Simpsons. He spends the whole episode getting annoyed that his lot in life was worse, and despite Homer being incompetent, has a house, a wife and two kids, can splurge when he wants to and a very comfortable job with people who love him and would never fire him (for more than half an episode anyway).

Its a meta analysis on people who watch the Simpsons and see it as "unrealistic", it isnt realistic and doesnt try to be. and also on the "crab in a bucket" attitude of americans. Frank has had a hard life but he sees Homer's full of happiness and he doesnt think "What a lucky man, im glad he never had to experience what I have", he thinks "he doesnt DESERVE it" and becomes full of spite and jealousy.
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>>533089865
>Boomers
>Strong
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>>533090231
>two kids
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>>533089583
>>533089597
Fuck I remember watching that one
That was the moment I stopped bothering with the new seasons
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>>533086979
was frank grimes the original chud?
>>533089996
Adachi fits the bill
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You know if the golden age of the simpsons were so great why are majority of episodes in the 7-8 range?
Were people even more critical back then or what?
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>>533090320
I dont even remember maggy half the time honestly
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the movie wasn't great but it was better than I expected
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>>533086979
basically anyone that hates nintendo
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>>533089080
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8733706/
wew
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>>533090231
Haha yeah that's old grimey for you
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>>533090162
/co/ watches it every Sunday alongside the rest of the FOX lineup. Blame them and Spics.
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>>533090162
I honestly don't know.
Homer went from "a bit dumb but lovable" to just plain fucking retarded, Marge sounds like she's been a smoker for 40 years, Lisa is even more insufferable than before, Bart still does nothing, and the writers are clearly creatively bankrupt.
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>>533086979
People who were mad about the Wii being successful.
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>>533090345
Lady gaga kisses marge in that episode it isnt that bad
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>>533090162
>Who the fuck watches The Simpsons any more?
Braindead spics probably
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>>533087729
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>>533090514
>bless-the-harts
am i strange for having never heard of this one
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>>533090434
Yes, Homer Goes to College was considered the lowest point of the series back then. Homer at the Bat and Marge vs the Monorail were also hated back then by the staff and internet nerds.
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>>533090662
Came out last year.
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>>533086979
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>>533090162
Yeah at a certain point it became less of an actual cartoon and some sort of weird brand worshiping session.
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>>533090162
>Almost 700 episodes
It will never die
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>>533089336

You see that episode with a score of 4.6? It's an episode where Bart join a feminist gang after being the only one in his group of male friends enjoying an all female reboot of Itchy & Scratchy

I'm 100% serious
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>>533090921
someone should update this with Bless the Harts
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>>533089080
do i stop watching at season 10 or season 12?
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>>533089583
>>533089597
quick rundown on the lady gaga episode?
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>>533086979
Chaos Hero
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>>533090921
never understood the appeal of american dad
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>>533091060
I'd stop at 12. 10-12 is the downfall but it still produced some interesting and fun episodes. Past 12 is complete unfunny garbage
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>>533091060
12, from there on out just watch the Threehouse of Horror episodes.
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>>533090673

Homer at the bat is considered a bad episode?!?!?!?!?

I'm not even American and give zero fuck about baseball and i love that episode

https://youtube.com/watch?v=IAJHDiO8Fr0
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>>533089751
oh god THAT episode

it's literally unwatchable. I haven't lasted more than a minute.
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>>533091073
>Everyone in Springfield is depressed for some reason, Lisa is the most depressed. Gaga visits and tells Lisa to cheer the fuck up.

That's it. Nothing even remotely interesting or relevant to the show happens.
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>>533091189
Its Family Guy with less cutaways.
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>>533090162
nobody, just look at the ratings
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>>533089080
i see 9.3, what's that one again
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>>533089613
How did you know which episode it is and not make the connection?
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>>533091148
comparison image
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>>533091275
I don't know what he's referring to but it's one of the most beloved episodes
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>>533090673
i thought the most hated episode was the principle and the pauper
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>>533089613
Which episode was that?
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>>533091148
Looks more like a young anime Hank Hill to me
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>>533091275
any of the zany episodes or homer gets a job tend to be kind of frowned upon by purists, at it's core the simpsons was a fairly down to earth satire.
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>>533086979
American McGee hands down
That poor bastard has suffered everything
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I hope dan castellaneta dies soon and they finally end the show.
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>>533091275
>>533091485
>>533091532
Harry Shearer hates it
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>>533091073

It's another "Lisa is worried about being unpopular episode" except lady gaga get treated as some sort of divinity descending upon Springfield in order to bestow Lisa the gift of popularity
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>>533086979
Frank is us.
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>>533091651
i dont know anything about him beyond work in doom 2, elaborate
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>>533089080
>trilogy of error is the last good episode
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>>533089974
Then you're more or less the same by the time your latest kid is Maggie's age, you'll be Homer's age yourself.
In the earlier seasons everyone in Homer's circle is 38 (as they all went to school together), it's been upped in later seasons since they cannot have been teenagers in the 80's anymore
They now went to college in the mid 90's and are all 40-something
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>>533091581
He literally has the exact same facial expression as him
>>533091415
>>533091148
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>>533091882
>Linguo dead?
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>>533091073
https://youtu.be/fMDznZiJ5DE

its unironically retarded and one of the most insulting episodes I have ever seen. I have no idea how the writers came up with the episode
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>>533091189
Once they figured out what they had with Roger’s disguises it came into its own. It’s formatless; they can do any kind of episode they want, with any context, and all they have to do is make Roger into the relevant “new” character.
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>>533092045
>Linguo IS deaaaad
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>>533089974
Stop at 2 unless you want your youngest to become the middle child. You don't want a middle child.
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>>533092540
sounds like you had a bad childhood lmao
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>>533086979
terraria
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>>533091275
90s burger child here, great taste anon. My dad actually taped this one and The Flaming Moe on VHS when they aired.
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>>533089080
I read somewhere that the Frank Grimes episode is somewhat controversial amongst some circles. Apparently for being "too dark" or something similar, but it literally my favorite episode of all time.

So my question is, is this phenomenon an American thing or what?
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>>533092540
middle child isn't a problem, just don't have a single miracle baby 5+ years after your last one, it's pretty hard having a group of older siblings that are tight with eachother and you don't really have anything in common with because of the age gap.
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>>533086979
Players
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>Principal and the Pauper is 7.0
>tomacco episode got the only 10 rating
imbd truly is hot garbage.
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>Matt Groening said The Simpsons would be around a couple more seasons, but couldn't guarantee anything beyond that because Seasonal Rot was becoming a real concern and he wanted the series to end on a high note. That was in 1999.
>Despite not being part of production anymore, Groening has expressed disappointment over the changes the staff has made over the years, including the removal of Apu, as he loves the character and retconning how Homer meet Marge in the 1970's.

Not even the creator likes the newer stuff and wished it ended years ago.
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>>533092992
Mean-spirited humor is funny done right.
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>>533090231
>a typical person
There are people like Homer, tho.
I mean, regarding the "don't deserve what they have" thing.
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>>533092992
It might be, I'm an American (St Louis MO) and I can think of a number of episodes of animated comedies that have dark poorly received episodes
>Family Guy, Quagmire's Sister, it's just a really uncomfortable spousal abuse episode
>King of the Hill, Pigmalion, Michael Keaton voices a sociopath sausage company heir who tries to Stockholm Syndrome/brainwash Luanne
>American Dad has a couple but it's hard to draw the line with them, they're kinda absurdist gore on purpose these days
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>>533093164
sneed
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>>533090562
>went from "a bit dumb but lovable" to just plain fucking retarded
how did this happen to both spongebob and homer?
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>>533086979
This guy.
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>So my question is, is this phenomenon an American thing or what?
It's a Simpsons superfan internet autist thing. Like that stupid 50,000 word essay explaining why the show sucks now when all you need to know is that it has different writers.
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>>533093164

That tomacco episode 10 vote is fake because it's also the sneed episode

The actual vote is around 7.5 and actually inflated a bit by retard cracking more sneed jokes on imdb
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>>533091189
it's just better family guy which is basically saying nothing
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>>533090562
They wanted the Family Guy audience.
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>>533093920
Family Guy is good. It’s fucking stupid, but it still gets laughs out of me. More than I can say for the Simpsons for sure. More than I can say for Bob’s half the time.
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>>533089336
It's pretty bad. Maybe one good joke every couple of episodes.
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>>533094023
Bob is better than both, it's both funny and charming.
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>>533093741
I don't know about spongebob but the simpsons abandoned the family drama focus and just became a general cartoon about American culture, homer needed to become a retard with no social inhibitions for that subject matter that loose to work.
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>>533087729
Guy obsesses over someone being luckier than him and it drives him to suicidal madness.
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>>533090514
I like Bob's Burgers
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>>533091415
This is the true inspiration
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>>533094023
Family guy died for me when Stewie ate Brian's shit
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>>533086979
Phil Fish, unironically.
>One of the first indie devs to make a name for himself
>Upon seeing others succeed who he deemed unworthy, starting sperging out
>Ended up with him disappearing in a final rage
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>>533094138
Meh. Bob’s is “smarter”, it’s more clever, but I can easily go an episode and do no more than smile. I rarely get to the end of a new Family Guy (or Bless the Harts) without actually laughing and having to pause for a second.
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>>533093624
>Family Guy, Quagmire's Sister, it's just a really uncomfortable spousal abuse episode
You forgot that the episode before is the one where Meg stands up for herself after years of getting abused by her family, only for her to accept it at the end because her abuse keeps the family together, Also Brian does drugs and cuts his ear off.
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>>533090514

Bart ready to say "I KNEEL"
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>>533094178
but it's not just luck, the world seems to bend to a retard like Homer's will and it drives this guy insane because "Why the fuck is the world bending over backwards to appease this fucking moron while raping me in the ass since my own birth?!"
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>>533091073
You know how old Simpsons made fun of popular culture? The Lady Gage episode is the complete opposite, it's a celebration of pop culture without a shred of irony or humor.
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>>533090662
It’s new, but hilarious, at least for any American who knows any white trash people. I call Tennessee home and I swear before Christ I know half the people on that show.
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/v/
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>>533094256
It's a likable show, nothing offensive or terrible about it. The family genuinelly loves each other.
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https://youtu.be/nH8tLx3vIWs
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>>533086979
Zoey Quinn
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>>533094431
You took too long to post.
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>>533092992
The Frank Grimes episode was only dark when he died. Everything before that was funny cause it's the truth--some people in life are lucky as fuck and they will always beat you in anything.
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>>533094348
so, luck. good fortune outside of one's control.
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Jizzney+ has all seasons on demand, right? MIght subscribe for a month or two to rewatch the first 10 seasons. Are Futurama, Bobs Burgers or KOTH on there as well?
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>>533094435
I agree, but I don’t watch comedies for “likable”, I watch them to laugh. It often fails to deliver laughs for me. For all the unlikable characters of Family Guy, it’s written by people who know how to make me laugh.
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>>533089336
Last time I watched new Simpsons episodes was around S24 and I didn't chuckle even once.
I've only heard it's gotten somehow worse since then
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>>533094023
If Family Guy gets laughs out of you you should kill yourself.
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>>533094881
No because they are not "kid friendly" like Simpsons.
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>>533094256
>I rarely get to the end of a new Family Guy (or Bless the Harts) without actually laughing and having to pause for a second
really, anon?
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>>533093741
The Spongebob thing was for a couple reasons:

Hillenburg and the guy in charge of the art left, meaning both that the primary talent driving the show had departed, and the replacements had less authority and had to cater more to Nickelodeon's whims.

Nickelodeon saw that the movie was successful, and that the cutesy Spongebob ala goofy goober was an effective way to drive merch sales, and so pushed for Spongebob to move in that direction. The artstyle moved towards a simpler, cutesier one that abandoned those glorious Spumco inspired expression shots, while the writing simplified and stupidified in order to emphasis cuteness and make Spongebob into more of a mascot.

Nickelodeon fucking up a show is just part for the course though. They ruined Fairly Odd Parents not long after Spongebob, again to try and get merch sales.
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>Almost everything Troy McClure said in "Spinoffs showcase" about what would happen in future episodes became true
>Selma getting married many times
>Bart has an identical Twin
>Putting side characters on stupid situations like Ralph trying to be president
They really knew what would happen if the show kept going after they told everyone that the staff was running low on ideas
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Max Panye
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>>533094984
Some of the episodes really aren't kid-friendly at all
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>>533093532
It's a shame, but sending your days seething about it only makes it worse for yourself
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>>533095128
They cut out the Michael Jackson one because of this.
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>>533094987
Yes, really.

>>533094881
Simpsons is on Disney+, all the rest are on Hulu though. And actually the new Simpsons seasons are aired on Hulu as well.
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>>533087729
Its one of the greatest episodes of all time how do you not remember it?
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>>533092992
It's possible the darkest the Simpsons ever got. They've done dramatic moments like when Homer thinks he's going to die so he listens to an audiotape of the Bible while watching the sunset, or him looking at the stars, but Grimey was just the butt of the joke despite not deserving any of it. It's a fun episode but it's hard not to feel bad for the guy, specially for going out the moment he tries to act like the average person in Springfield.
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>>533094707
>The Frank Grimes episode was only dark when he died
I'm the dude you're replying to, and even that is hilarious
>Marge, change the channel!
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>>533095068
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oUXUn30hts
This one is funnier, everything they said has been done.
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>>533095245
Did you forget the episode where Homer considers suicide?
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>>533089080
What the hell was S6E3
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>>533089080
>The next episode after Sneed is Hello Gutter Hello Fadder (S11E6), was particularly deep in shit creek with how retarded/shark-jumpy it gets, with Homer nonchalantly eating nuclear waste, haphazardly committing suicide because he lost a bowling game, quickly forgetting about the suicide attempt, and being saved from drowning by Super-Baby Maggie

Maybe /tv/ is right. Sneed was the last iconic episode of the show.
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>>533094881
bro just torrent it
have some self respect
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>>533089080
Lisa needs bracelets episode should be 11 or sth
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>>533095618
>bracelets
bait or autocorrect
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>>533095315
That's a dramatic episode but Grimes is on another level since the drama isn't happening to one of the main cast who have plot armor and it's a guy who's being shat on by the world at every turn, only to get joined with the guy that the universe saves at every moment.
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>>533094997
>Fairly Oddparent went through
A baby
A Talking Dog
A girl who shares Timmy's faires with him

All that before being quietly canceled but man,, with Spongebob they really hit the ground running with bastardizing the franchise as soon as the creator died, first they tried to make Spongebob gay to appeal to the LGBT community, they fucking hated it because it was exploting them to them , then they're trying to give Patrick a live action spin off where he interviews E-celeb's and finally they farted out another movie after Sponge out of water that nobody watched.

Coroprate suits really are the most soulless bastards in television through this is all second hand information , I haven't watched a spongebob episode since the episode he fell in love with a krabby patty and slaughtered a bunch of baby clams, it was there I knew the show had died.
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>>533095465
Clipshow
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>>533095245
>t it's hard not to feel bad for the guy
I never got that. I mean by that point we've been with the simpsons for 8 or 9 seasons or whatever it was (I'm not googling it), so we have more sympathy built up for the Simpson family. Yes, Grimey had a tough life, but even that is built up in a deeply comic one scene piece by Kent Brockman.

I still don't get it. Grimey is a fall guy, always was. How do people not get it?
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>>533095567
Nooooo, only direct downloads for me
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>>533095715
Nah I am just an idiot
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>>533086979
I just realised Vegeta is literally Frank Grimes.
Just think about him and his relationship with Goku.
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>>533094267
Oh I remember Hurricane, I still won't watch it to this day because I find Brians trip highly disturbing. But yeah I'm with you on that, Meg didn't deserve to be the whipping girl.
I will admit though, when they did the same thing in American Dad to Klaus I just thought it was hilarious because Klaus sucks in a good way, like Bill from KotH
>I'M THE GLUE BABY *as Stan drops him down the sink disposal*
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>>533095748
because they saw themselves in grimmy, his life is dog shit and some worthless bastard is living the high life doing the bare minimum yet getting extreme benefits, everyone in life knows someone like that, to grimmy that's homer, to you it could probably be so fuck head named Dan or a Brithey or whatever. The goal probably wasn't for people to see themselves in grimmy but that's what it ended up as, back when I watched it I just laughed at it because i considered the dude a bitch that god hated anyway
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>>533089865
>boomers
>creating good times
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>>533091532
It's considered the start of the downfall because of the terrible Armin Tamzarian twist, but the episode itself is not bad, it has some great moments
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>>533094881
>giving The Mouse money
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>>533087729
They put a realistic person into a world that follows cartoon logic and predictably he has a mental breakdown
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>>533095963
He was until he got over himself by kid buu's defeat. Now he enjoys his family, he enjoys his life and while he does want to beat Goku and surpass him he doesn't let that completely consume him anymore.

Grimms was consumed by his envy and hatred for people better off than him and it destroyed him, the people who see themselves in Grimms are headed for the same fate.
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>>533096126
>but the episode itself is not bad
you just made an enemy for life.
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>>533095125
To stay on topic, I agree. Guy can't catch a break.
>>533095748
It wasn't a dig at the episode. It's great. It's basically what would happen if a normal person joined that world. But they clearly built up the fact that Grimes has never been able to advance in his life despite doing all he could. His meltdown over Homer having lobster for dinner shows that. A lot of the better moments in classic Simpsons is usually aimed at some common frustation people have. Maybe it's keeping a shitty but safe job to provide for the family, or it's seeing retards get ahead in life despite not deserving it.
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>>533089080
Wow what happened in s11e5 that made it so great?
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>>533095963
goku worked harder growing up. vegeta only started training seriously after losing on earth, not just cursing goku for his "privilege."
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>>533089550
Nobody cares faggot
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>>533095965
American Dad had the best episode of the Hurricane crossover, both Family Guy and Cleveland was shitty Emmy baits that tried to tackle serious issues while AD just went nuts with the concept.
>END OF THE DAY BITCHES!!!
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>>533096383
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeTw0c6vxO8
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>>533096537
God Cleavland show sucked, Why him out of all the characters? why not Stewie and Brain since they only put their budget and their effort into writing those episodes and usually it's just Seth sucking off the 80s or his own vocal range and singing voice for an hour or 30 minutes
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>>533089080
>stopped at Season 10
For me things went downhill when the Simpsons started leaving Springfield more often and outsiders started showing up in Springfield more often
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>>533095125
Max gets fucked but so does everyone else, the closest analog to homer is vlad and Max kills him.
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>>533090673
college and baseball were probably the first good episodes of the show, and are still some of the best.
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>>533096725
>why not Stewie and Brain
family guys is their show, if they got another one it would just be family guy, peter became the side character.
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>>533096725
Because he's black
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>>533096504
It's not that simple though. Because Vegeta was 3 times stronger than Goku when they met only got Goku to lap him 12 times in only a month even before Super Saiyan happened. Goku might have a strong work ethic but Vegeta's not wrong when he asks what the fuck is going on?
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>>533096761
Did you see the recent episode in one of the newer seasons where they tried to explore hipsters and millennials in it?
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>>533096640
>Sneed is the old guy
>retards thought its the redneck with the goatee
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>>533090162
They rely on the lowest common denominator to survive which is local cable. Even then fox realizes how much the show's tanked and puts all the classics and previous seasons behind FXX cable paywall, and now you need fucking Disney+ to watch any of the good shit on Hulu now. I pirated the first 10 and never bothered with the rest just like I never bothered watching after 2003.
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>>533097386
The irony of the Simpsons was that it was supposed to be an exaggerated regular family mocking pop culture. And now it's just a collection of assholes trying to cram in as much pop culture as they can
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>>533086979
He looks like the chudcel lol
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>>533086979
>highly capable character who eventually goes insane because the player-character keeps outdoing him without even trying
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>>533097323
Sneedposting is the most moronic meme and I can't beleive they replaced Baneposting for it, at the very least the Plane scene was needlessly dramatic and was a questionable choice for the movie begin with, Sneed is a a complete enigma of a meme like those fucking Mafia City threads and makes even less sense those because the scene proper isn't even that funny or nonsensical to begin with. It fucks with me because I actually thought the Tomacco episode was pretty funny and now nobody will actually talk about it outside of that fucking dead horse clip.
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>>533089865
>boomers
>creating good times
>bunch of random ass dates
>im-fucking-plying that the bubonic plague created strong men
This fucking HAS TO be bait.
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I think the biggest character butchering was Skinner. He used to be hilarious, now the entire joke is that he's mama's whipping boy. The episode from pic related was the closest to an interesting dynamic with the mother. Now it's just
>Skinner says something
>Agneas walks in from nowhere and says something insulting
>Skinner feels bad
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>>533097582
Just like Family Guy, unlike Simpsons however Family Guy burnt out far faster which is a shame because the first few seasons were actually pretty good at mocking all things media. After trying to expand on they're own characters later it really started to go to shit, especially as early as Peter being canonically retarded instead of just an incredibly stupid character for the sake of plot episodes. It's almost like when American Dad premiered all the creative talent of FG was stripped and put into that instead.
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>>533098479
It became soulless
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>>533098006
Don't you dare compare based mafia city threads to sneed, sneed is literal reddit shit that gay furfag ecelebs have admitted to making threads about, mafia city has survived for fucking years and is in the same vein of classic 4chan shitposting like the "half an a press" jokes. Sneed is literally a litmus test for twittards and redditniggers, you know its gotten bad when fucking /pol/fags unironically think that sneed is funny and are using it constantly. Sneed is a fucking unfunny zombie at this point, much ironically like the modern state of the simpsons.
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>>533098859
everything seth makes is and always has been, soulless
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>>533096725
He's the only one that could carry another family sitcom, without the non white gimmick there isn't really enough to distinguish a show based around Joe unless they decided to do a police procedural satire, Joe is also the most valuable character of the three friends to keep around.
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>>533099074
zoom zoom
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>>533098479
I still find it amazing that AD ended up being the better out of FG or Cleveland. It started out rather rough with mostly a focus on political jokes and it's now the most consistent for a good laugh. Having Roger be like the Spy from TF2 and just disguise as anything helps to keep each episode fresh.
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>>533098479
I think part of the problem is just the stagnation of it. Once the characters are established you basically have 2 routes: either you can respect the characters and let them grow or you can forcibly keep them the same and just keep creating more absurd situations around them without changing the status quo. Like remember when Bart sold his soul to Milhouse and he had such a crisis of conscience about it that he couldn't sleep or have any moment of peace? Bart is a troublemaker but he did care. Remember when Meg got fed up with being the family's whipping girl and she bluntly called out all of them? That was good because a character like Meg probably would get fed up and probably would want to leave and never see any of them again. But the status quo can't change so the moral of the story is that Meg has to stop being selfish and let her family kick the shit out of her every day so they can stay together. And that's all she'll be forever. Well that's not true she went from being horrified at accidentally kissing her brother in a game of spin the bottle to 100% casually fucking him when their parents aren't around. So that's evolution I guess.
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>>533096725
Why not Quagmire since they were trying to shoehorn him into the new Brian immediately after his departure? Anything would have been better than that retarded Feud between him and Brian that made no sense considering the two were in plenty of scenes without altercations besides one scene where he outed him for banging a tranny in a one off joke.
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>>533099268
>to 100% casually fucking him when their parents aren't around.
Say what now?
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>>533099478
https://youtu.be/f9lI8dll-yY
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>>533099472
Quagmire is a rapist. That's not a joke it's simply true, they even said the reason he didn't get one is because it would be nothing but rape jokes
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>>533099190
early seth shit is zoomercore, zoomie
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my favourite characters are gil and willie

what about you guys :)
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Are American Dad and South Park still good? Those are the only western adult cartoons that used to get a good chuckle out of me
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>>533098981
>you know its gotten bad when fucking /pol/fags unironically think that sneed is funny and are using it constantly.
Yeah that was what clued me in to sneed just being reddit shit, that trashy meme needs to die already
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>>533096537
>My old college javelin!
>Remember?
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>>533099627
No zoomer watched Family Guy on release.
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>>533089714
Sonic adventure 1 and 2 are borderline buggy tech demos compared to sunshine and 64.
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>>533099557
Fucking hell.
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>>533090995
the absolute state
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>>533099678
They have seen a slight stepdown, but are leagues above any other long-runinng adult cartoons.
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>>533099557
That's not even the first time it's implied Chris and Meg practice incest either.
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>>533099678
American Dad is still pretty fun.
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>>533099678
south park is complete garbage now and has been for a long time
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>>533099968
Back to >>>/pol/ with you nigger, sneed is unfunny and your attempts to leech and latch onto 4chan memes only show that you're as reddit as a human being can get. 6.
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>>533092045

>inflammable means flammable? What a country
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>>533100160
i just thought it was a funny image
i dont even go on pol
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>>533094059
>>533094220
>I'm Homer Simspon? How did that happen?
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>>533099870
>It's a "Fuck men, girl power" episode
>Bombs every single time
Why do movies and TV shows keep doing this?
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>>533091060
Im rewatching right now and gave up about halfway through season 10. The episodes just stop making you laugh around that point
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>>533086979
>ctrl f
>no Koopa jr.
Koopa jr. from paper mario
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>>533089080
>SNEED episode is a 10/10
BASED
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>>533086979
tim sweeney
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>>533100296
I imagine there's some The Producers situation going on.
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>>533100296
social programming. should be obvious to everyone by now.
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>>533100160
Sneed
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Is it canon that Frank was actually in a coma and was mostly buried alive, which he escaped later? The games and books seems to confirm this.
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>>533098981

>habeeb it
>desu
>IMMA FIRIN MAH LAZOR

What the fuck do you think classic 4chan was like? It was constant random shit.
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>>533095243
some zoomers are in their early 20s now. its an old show.
its like asking an early millennial if they remember the 70s.
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>>533100761
He has a son that tried to kill Homer.
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>>533099612
Exactly why I brought it up, trying to make him more Sympathetic was the most retarded shit. Season 3 is the earliest they imply his pedo lust and then they give him a whole episode where he get's arrested for it and gets a slap on the fucking wrist because his Mom fucked the Judge last minute. He didn't learn a thing allwhile passing the blame on the fact he was exposed to his mom's sex life from a young age as if that justifies him fucking a underaged teen and texting the image to his friend. And yet this had more characterization than they ever fucking gave Clevland in his own fucking show which had three fucking seasons before they pulled the plug and dragged him back to Fagly Gay. I just don't know what's going through their writer's heads when hitting on someone's wife is wrong and enough to merit the "Worst Person I know" speech from a pervert but getting away with Statutory Rape and making sexual suggestions on that same family's Daughter is A-OK.
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>>533100552
its shopped dingus
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>>533100761
Nope, he's dead but they retcon him into having fucked a Prostitute and giving birth to an exact lookalike son who swears revenge on Homer, who doesn't know who he is and has completely forgotten about Grimes' death.
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>>533098981
more like sneed mafia haha
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>>533095748
Simpsons fans have a lot more in common with Grimey than Homer.
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>>533099472
>>533099612
>>533100919
That entire scene was a shitty imitation of Frank Grimes, it was to placate fans who hated Brian but also to make fun of people criticizing him by making the guy who criticizes the depressed alcoholic a pedophilic rapist who is arrogant for no reason.
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>>533087729
Bart buys a factory for a buck
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>>533096725
Some of the side characters like the bear, midget and David Lynch bartender were kino. Cleveland Jr. was also great and was a better Chris.
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>>533100296
>"What do kids these days like?"
>"Mr Faggot Activist Johson, any advice?"
>"Oh yes, kids love activism."
>"Great idea"
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>>533091775
Read his wikipedia page
>Father was a drunk who abandoned him
>Mother was a hippie who literally named him American
>Father showed up once for his 13th birthday and almost killed him until American suggested they go out for a drink
>Father gets in a car accident when he crashes into a telephone pole
>Mother ditches American when he was 16 to fly off with her new transgender boyfriend and took the money for a sex change operation
>She even sold the house
>He dropped out of high school, got a job at a repair shop, became a vidya developer, got EA'd, has had trouble with development for the Alice sequel, and his sister is missing/presumably dead since 2015
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>>533086979
/v/
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>>533101710
The worst part is that the show has also tried to play the other side and talk about how colleges are bad because no free speech, but everyone realizes that it is desperate bids for views and no one watches.
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>>533089080
what's 29/21 that's allegedly as good as most old eps?
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>>533099750
sure thing, zoomie
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>>533090231
Remove the bright visuals and yellow skin, and Simpsons would reflect well with reality as long as it doesn't go to Sneedson or Zombie Simpsons territory where you get skateboard duels and tomacco.
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>>533101756
Isn't there also some legit shady shit around surrounding his sister's disappearance? Remember reading something about the authorities going out of their way to avoid looking into it and literal whos pressuring them into forgetting about it.
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Family guy is better at bring trash than simpsons. Family guys trash has soul
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>>533101963
It came out January 1999, the earliest zoomer was 2 years old at the time.
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>>533101831
There was some episode with a college being filled with robots that look like women and the way Homer destroys them all was by going beep boop and pretending to be a robot. All the robots start saying it's cultural appropriation and end up blowing up from it.
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>>533098006
>Sneed is a a complete enigma of a meme
The whole thing behind Sneedposting is just derailing Simpsons threads on /tv/ so that it discourages or fucks with people who want to discuss it there. It worked because people take this 30 second snippet from a forgotten episode with a hidden joke of all things say "Sneed" and people join in. But like all things on this site word of the meme gets to reddit or social media and /tv/ crossposters go to other boards and make edits or variants of it like with the fucking frog and wojak. Thats literally there is to it but most newfags don't actually get the point so they unironically piss themselves in laughter at posting Sneed.
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>>533102238
It's all just desperate attempts for views, which is what it will be until Marge's VA dies within a decade and the show is finally put out of its misery.
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>>533099968
this guy probably got roasted for being a radlib.
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>>533102143
spongebob is also from 1999 but you can't tell me that's not max zoomercore
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>>533090881
That is like... the antithesis philosophy of the simpsons I grew up with. Early simpsons would make fun of people for doing something like that.
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>>533101835
>When a lightning storm occurs, Bart ends up in a deep coma and ghosts appear before him. Lisa after being humiliated by Bart decides to make his coma-dream worse.
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>>533090881
>>533102497
Oh shit, I remember seeing something explaining this, how things that start out as criticism of brands eventually will just come to worship other brands. Used The Simpsons as an example too, anyone have it?
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>>533102102
the current simpsons are working off a framework set by a bunch of harvard lit nerds, whereas familyguy has always been a vehicle for disposable one off jokes and relatable humor.
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>>533090514
>Bob's Burgers
Ugh
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>>533102707
Not based, better than Reddit and Memey.
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>>533090514
>Bless-the-Harts
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>>533098006
They suggested the word "fuck" in the modern flintstones
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>>533102651
I mean they do that but that's not really what I meant, it's the worship of the most shallow, surface level simpsons iconogrophy, like 30 minutes dedicated to watching an animation of mickey doing a single preening pose over and over.
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>>533102651
That's not some deep insight, everyone has "an old faithful" thing that they will stick by no matter how shit it becomes.
For example: I used to unironically love Warframe, I once thought it was the best third person shooter ever, now I can't fucking stand all the broken promises, perplexing nerfs, broken on launch updates. And yet I still play the game frequently to this day, despite not being able to recommend it in its current state to literally anyone.
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>>533099870
God Bart looks so out of place compared to them
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>>533102845
I don't care for Rick and Morty either, but at least it tries to actually have jokes.
Bob's Burgers is designated background noise in a genre made for being background noise because it's just that unfunny.
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>>533095137
Sure, the sooner you realize life isn't supposed to be "fair" or "even", the better.
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>>533102297
This.
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>>533099678
American Dad is still okay. Roger can literally be any character they want for the sake of plot or gags which helps to explain how their mileage is pretty good on that.

They also stick to their niche and know the audience so they don't pander to new viewers meaning the core of show is still recognisable as it was in the earlier series. Also mcfarlane has little involvement in the writing and only really voices characters, he's an insufferable faggot but he has a decent voice.
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>>533099870
The amount of facial detail Nu Simpsons characters have over the old ones fucks me up everytime I see it.
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>>533103257
You can't appreciate chill comedy
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>>533086979
He pretty much flips out in the same way
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>>533103253
All the new characters they introduce are horribly out of place. They always end up having a bunch of details on the clothes that contrast heavily with everyone barely having any detail. Because who cares about consistency, right?
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>>533102845
The problem with that show is its fans. Because Rick being the smartest man in the universe doesn't make him happy. It makes him a self destructive asshole who believes in nothing and actively makes the lives of everyone around him worse. Beth is a Gordian knot of daddy issues and a piece of shit herself who let's Rick routinely endanger her children if it marginally increases the chances of Rick sticking around this time. Jerry is presented as a wimp and a failure but he's also the only person in the house who bothers to ask why are they allowing Rick to do whatever the fuck he wants to their children. Rick is not meant to be worshiped. Even the show tells you not to look up to him. But that show's fucktard fan base never got the memo and you have a bunch of retards who unironically think they're the Ricks of their social circle for no other reason than they believe in nothing because nothing matters which makes them woke to the pointlessness of human connection or some shit. It's the Euphoric meme but played completely straight.
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>>533103792
Season 3 was when they started characterizing Rick as some sort of memetic badass instead of the pathetic coward he was before, non-coincidentally this is also when the fandom started getting out of control.
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>>533103084
This was basically Pokemon for me although I stopped the bleeding at Sword and Shield. But exiting the fan base kind of woke me up to how brainwashed most of it is and how many mental gymnastics I myself used to justify the series
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>>533103792
The funny thing is even the creator who voices 90% of the cast thinks the fanbase is full of faggots while he treats the show as a vehicle for his drunken shitposts. But they don't even have the self awareness to let that fact register to them and still quote Pickle Rick unironically.
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>>533098330
Any chance of him becoming more than that was buried with the Criticism towards the Tamzarian fiasco. I haven't watched in years and I couldn't believe reading Ned ended up marrying Krabapple before Skinner made that move.
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>>533099678
South park still manages to get laughs out of me, but that's because I'm an adult that still has the sense of humor of a teenager, and I like that it's one of the only shows left that makes fun of literally everyone instead of only certain people.
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>>533104089
>Ned ended up marrying Krabapple before Skinner made that move.
what?
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>>533104053
>exiting the fan base kind of woke me up to how brainwashed most of it is and how many mental gymnastics I myself used to justify the series
I feel like there was some period of time within the past few years where almost every single Nintendo fanbase collectively lost their fucking marbles. Pokemon, Smash, Animal Crossing, Fire Emblem and probably more.
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>>533093164
Principal and the pauper is a 5.0 you ESL, and the tomacco one is an edit.
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>>533102297
Doesn't sneed means formely suck, so when you say sneed you say suck my dick?
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>>533104089
She died shortly after so it was a complete waste. They even held an online contest where you could vote if Nedna should be a thing or not.
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OH NO NO NO NO NO
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>>533104281
https://simpsons.fandom.com/wiki/Nedna
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>>533090810
Is that infiniminer? Zachtronics has done well elsewhere anyway.
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>>533088292
>then Frank fuck hookers and abandoned his child.
zombie simpsons is awful, lazy as fuck writing just to make a reference to one of the greatest episodes ever.
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>>533103792
You're right about the fans being the main issue but the REAL problem is that the shows writing staff bought into their own praise too much and focused on making the show 2deep4u and playing up the dramatic elements.

Nothing wrong with the dramatic elements themselves they add some nice reflective moments that humanise the characters but they went too far in the serious direction when really the show is at its best when the episodes were just Rick and Morty A plot with a mundane family B plot that helped to ground the surreal humour. It was funniest when the other characters were mostly ignorant of Ricks' sci-fi stuff and were along for the ride, they could have gotten at least a good 5-6 series of material just doing what they did in season 1 again.
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>>533104485
an episode that takes an explicit shot at autistic fans of the show and muh lore and they sperg out and call it the worst episode ever
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>>533089080
what's that 5.9 in season 6? and what episode was S9 E23?
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>>533089080
Season 4 is the best season, but has a shockingly-low amount of greens. Methinks something's afoot.
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>>533089336
it went to try to copy family guy, then tried to go back to its roots, but all writters with talent are gone and basically they are also spineless to the point guest stars are treated like royalty, to the point that Lady gaga episode is considered the worst episode ever.
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>>533104658
Holidays of Future Passed, which was originally going to be the series finale.
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>>533098330
Skinner was best as a good-natured vietnam veteran and antagonist to Bart, his overbearing mother was a funny way to foil his image as an authorative figure by having someone undermine him that he could do nothing about but as you say they ran too far with it and now the character is a joke in an annoying way rather than a humorous one.

The episode where he says he's a green beret and beats up the lawyers sticks in mind, it would be so out of character in later seasons.
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Earlier seasons were pandering to the homers of the world. Ratings lower over time because they appeal to more specific tastes. The niche market Grimes wants is denied to him by the Homers. This is the difference between Family Guy and some deeply niche manga. Some of these corridors lead to degenerates but some of them lead to new insights
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This was sort of the baseball bat in the back of the head for me. Okay Dexit happened. Whatever, that in and of itself isn't enough to derail the entire series for me. Especially since, they say, the time saved from importing a bunch of the roster would be used to improve the animations. Well fuck yeah! The first console pokemon game and GF isn't pulling their punches this time. This is going to be the best thing ever!

But then you see the textures. And you see the draw distance. And you see the models and animations are lifted from the fucking 3DS. And then you see that they're still using abstractions to convey action. You notice that Pokemon never touch one another? NPCs never touch one another. If an action can't be conveyed by a canned animation it fades to black and that action is conveyed through a text box. All of these things keep stacking up in the first mainline console pokemon game, their first impression. And in talking to other people about it I was floored by the responses

>it still looks fun
>you should just be happy we're getting another game
>those are just nitpick

It's like Pokemon is this weird religion to them and after that became disgusted with the series and myself for supporting it for so long
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>>533104281
They let the internet decide if they got together. I have a soft spot for that episode since it was an interesting conflict of personalities being attracted. Unfortunately the VA passed away shortly after.
Now they do the occasional joke that Ned's wives end up dying which comes across as oddly disrespectful since Edna wasn't killed in an episode.
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>>533086979
Obsidian vs Bethesda
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>>533100798
old 4chan was literally current year reddit
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>>533086979
Sonic
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I still don't think The Principal and the Pauper was a bad episode.
Granted I was young when I first watched it so I don't know the controversy.
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>>533105161
who is Bart's teacher now?
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>>533089080
What are those two garbage rating episodes?
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>>533105262
Pretty sure it's some generic sub like how they replaced Garrison on South Park, it's just less reason to visit the school setting now so there's no need to put effort into it for them.
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>>533105109
I have really mixed feelings towards SwSh because I was absolutely trashing the game leading up to launch only to buy it secondhand a week later and dump 200 hours into it because I found the raids surprisingly addicting.
That said I still think it's a mediocre game above all else, despite it sating some weird craving I didn't think i'd have.
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>>533105262
They find new characters that end up leaving by the end, the joke is always the same.
>New teacher comes in
>Either they're super hip or ultra hardass
>Bart gets them to leave by being the embodiment of evil, usually followed with some ominous choir music
They seem to mostly avoid showing Bart in class.
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>>533105464
If I do ever get SwSh, and that's a very big if, it will 100% be used. But I'm definitely off the pokemon fan train and I give them a far more critical eye than I do before
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>>533086979
Sonyfags (Frank) vs Nintendofags (Homer)
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>>533104485
That's the Skinner exposed episode, isn't it?
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>>533105372
The Lady Gaga and Itchy & Scratchy feminist episodes.
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>>533105109
I don't understand how some people still cling to pokemon. I was mega into pokemon growing up but I just dropped the series completely after sapphire/ruby, It's so shallow and easy that I don't get what people get out of it. It just feels like it was made for kids from the dialogue to the artstyle to the gameplay. contrast it with Mario or Dragon Quest or Animal Crossing where there is a juvenile influence but a very clear effort to make those games "ageless".

Maybe my opinions are informed by the fact that I have a kid myself now so I'm just being jaded but It's something I don't quite understand.
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>>533104071
>he treats the show as a vehicle for his drunken shitposts
but that's why I like it
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>>533105698
Ever since gen 6 or so i've pretty much treated Pokemon like some junk food I buy sometime later and play through once. It's comfy enough as something to just sit back and mindlessly consoom.
A shame the franchise never really aspired to become anything greater, but that's been clear to anyone paying attention for a long time now, really.
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>>533093532
Yeah, I know a bunch. I don´t know if this is related, but they also are annoying pieces of shit. I don´t envy them because Im not a jealous person, but I try to not be near them.
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>>533105453
Man its gonna be weird to see Garrison return to the show again.
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>>533105453
>Pretty sure it's some generic sub like how they replaced Garrison on South Park
That was definitely commentary, they replaced him with an Asian woman played completely straight
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>>533105250
It's really not, but it's one of those big TV events everybody bashed when it happened because nobody did this at the time. It was particularly jarring because it threw his entire chracter out the window and then at the end of the episode quickly had everyone swear to forget about it and pretend his character wasn't changed. While it didn't effect the show dramatically at the time it permanently made his character static.
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>>533097323
I thought it was the fat guy at first
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Why did they change the Voice actors?
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>>533105250
If that was the lowest the Simpsons had ever gotten it would've been a blessing. As it is it's just a very obvious meta joke about how things always go back to the status quo no matter what kind of revelations happen.
The VA for Skinner said it best when he said it felt like an insult to fans who had dedicated their time to caring about this character.
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>>533086979
Phil fish
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>>533093262
Did they seriously remove Apu? And how was Marge and Homer retconned?
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>>533106127
Worst part is they did it again with Fat Tony, where he got killed of, replaced by his cousin Fit Tony who becomes fat and is now the new Fat Tony.
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>>533105067
Apparently the whole being a veteran thing is now considered offensive towards actual veterans and people who suffer from PTSD, or that's what I wager from reading online, which might not be accurate with reality.
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>>533105250
It's not a bad episode, but it was already when The Simpsons were going downhill. It's not a turning point episode that people make it out to be.
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>>533106369
but who cares? that's the point, it's a cartoon where all of this is just made up and resets every week
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>>533106357
Some Street Shitter made a documentary about how toxic Apu is so they got rid of him.
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>>533086979
I swear to god these threads are just /co/ threads in disguise
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>>533106357
They have removed Apu and now Marge and Homer were around 18 in the 90's. They had an episode parodying Nirvana with Homer in a grunge band called Sadgasm.
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>>533093262
>tfw it had a slim possibility of ending under Fox
>The Mouse will make sure the Simpsons, FG and American Dad will never end until the heat death of the universe
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>>533106610
>American Dad

you okay there pal?
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>>533106413
If we go by those standards than everyone in media is insulting to someone.
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What is /v/ thoughts on Carl's new voice actor?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEyRaK4RzJQ
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>>533106693
Does Fox not own that?
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>>533106764
pretty meh, maybe around season 40 he will be good.
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>>533106764
What's even the fucking point of keeping this show on still? Who keeps watching? Explain yourself!
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>>533106594
>Marge and Homer were around 18 in the 90's
This is a weird thing the Simpsons keep doing. Instead of having the characters age, it's the world that advances to keep up with reality, so their lives keep having to be rearranged around that to avoid anachronisms.
It's incredibly jarring, but I can't really explain why.
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>>533106413
From what I understand one of the writers based the character off of his brother or brother-in-law who was a schoolteacher but also vietnam vet who the writer ran the jokes past and the guy found them funny.

you're probably right though that people are too easily offended by such things these days.

>>533105250
It's one of the episodes that marks the end of the golden period, in hindsight it wasn't really that bad especially compared to subsequent episodes. It has one of my favourite lines in the show when Skinner decides to return to his old life and shouts "up yours children" when he rides off on his motorbike.
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>>533106824
Nope, TBS bought it back in 2014.
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>>533106127
I agree. It wasn't so much that the episode was bad as much as the show was taking a turn, treating it as just a cartoon instead of a family sitcom that happened to be animated. Obviously by this point they had already exaggerated the situations like Homer going to space but shit still had consequences.
>>533106764
>Oh no, twitter is upset that voice actors aren't a perfect real life match to the characters they voice
>I know, let's get the first black guy that applies
>Don't worry, he won't even need to try and do Carl's voice, just let him speak normally
I swear the Simpsons writers actively want the show to end and they're just trying to push it over the edge with as many stupid decisions as possible.
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>>533088806
Lmao
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>>533106698
Which is funny because The Simpsons themselves were making fun of sitcom characters that were popular at the time

Homer Simpson was a parody of Jackie Gleason
Bart was a parody of Dennis the Mennis
And so on
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>>533107060
tv shows aren't meant to last for 30 years
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>>533086979
Frank Grimes is CD projeckt red and homer is EA
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>>533090514
>>533090649
Chileanfag here; no we dont. We only do reruns of the old seasons and people genuine hate anything pass 8-9. We watch up to season 9 even when some of the eps suck. I dont know about the other countries so I might be wrong
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>>533106357
>And how was Marge and Homer retconned?
The same way they always do it these days. They age up the cast by bumping their birthdates up, Homer was now an angsting Youth in the 90's and had a fucking Grunge Band with Lenny and Carl and Lou the fucking cop. You remember when he was a Sideshow for Rock Bands because he didn't fit in with 90's culture and wanted to impress his kids?! They don't!
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>>533106764
He sounds Familiar, who is that?
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This episode might be one of the most important lessons The Simpsons taught us, no matter how hard you work, life can just fuck you over and reward an incompetent buffoon at the same time.
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>>533090514
Re-runs of early seasons are the only simpsons related thing on spic TV.

t. spic
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>>533089080
LISA GOES GAGA ISNT THAT BAD
IT CANT BE THE WORST EPISODE
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>>533091148
Why does this look like SMT art
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>>533106764
It's amusing, because Family Guy recast the voice of Cleveland Brown with a matching PoC due to similar SJW pressure - and the dude is fucking spot on with the OG voice. It's like nothing changed.
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>>533107660
Because it is SMT art, clearly.
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>>533106764
This is the dumbest shit. This is the advantage of it being animated, you can have people voice characters not of their ethnicity or even species etc. What a shitshow.
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>>533106357
>>533106594
>>533107060
So you expect Bart and Lisa to be in their late 30's and Homer to be retired and/or dead?

Of course they're going to retcon that stuff, the show's been on for 30 years. Not that the episode was any good, but I wasn't offended by the fact that they had to effectively push their birthdates up, in fact I expected it at some point. I think that's one of the least-important problems with the show.
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>>533106764
This feels even more surreal when they predicted VA would be replaced for any little reason and people wouldn't care to notice why or how. How the hell do you become a parody of yourself?
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>>533106764
>The Blind Guy from Becker
Actually a good switch, still Unnecessary.
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>>533086979

Sonic Vs Mario
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>>533107863
>Plus you can replace them and no-one can tell the DIDDLYIFFRENCE!
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>>533107863
Blame the people complaining, what are the show-runners and Fox supposed to realistically do? Tell them to fuck off and potentially tank the show and brand? They had a pretty scathing rebuttal of the Apu situation in an episode and even that pissed people off. Their hands are tied.
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>>533086979
frank rimes=konami
homer=kojima

kojima is an idiot that keeps winning and succeding in life even tho he's an idiot frank grimes keeps working hard even tho he's got some fucked up shit in his life yet he losses
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>>533092992
Its way mean spirited that other episodes, and it was the first one that completely broke homer Simpson character, and I know it's meant to be from Grimes point of view, but homer is a dickhead to everyone else in the episode. Is even worse coming from season 7 which was the best season.
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>>533089550

As long as you don't live on a life supply of donuts, I think you'll be ok.
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>>533107918
>So you expect Bart and Lisa to be in their late 30's and Homer to be retired and/or dead?
Well, yes. There's been so many future episodes at this point that they might as well get on with it and make one of them canon. I don't see what the problem is with having a 70-something Homer dealing with being old.
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>>533107863
>You're now aware that SJWs are pushing to get rid of "blind auditions" for orchestras (where the interviewers cannot see who is playing, they can only hear their music) because it results in too many asians and not enough blacks or hispanics getting into orchestras, and is therefore racist.

Honk. Honk.
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>>533107590
It's a very shitty unfunny celebrity fellatio episode that's centered around the most polarizing member of the cast. (Japan, Groening and Al Jean LOVE Lisa but a lot of Simpsons fans have grown tired of her). It has all things that Simpsons fans have grown to hate about Modern Simpsons. Personally I would rank Lisa the Drama Queen worse for the same reasons. If there were episodes that need to be vilified it's Jazzy and the Pussy Cats and Boys of Bummer.
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>>533108285
>Well, yes
Then you're dumb
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>>533089080
>commas as decimals
disgusting
absolutely disgusting, third-world garbage

cool chart though
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>>533107571
what is bumblebee man like on spanish broadcasts?
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>>533105797
That's the paint your wagon episode, principal and the pauper is season 9 episode 2
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>>533108285
>I don't see what the problem is with having a 70-something Homer dealing with being old.
Its a sitcom, not a drama
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>>533089080
It IS the highest rated episode. The sneed rating is an edit
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>>533089865
Boomers are the weak men living in good times that tanked the economy and environment.
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>>533108105
>making gorillions off pachinko machines
>losing
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>>533108295
Leftists are openly against the concept of meritocracy, so this isn't surprising.
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>>533108589
wasn't that just a clip show
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>>533108589
Fuck, forgot about the clip shows.
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>>533091060
I think it's important to watch 10, 11, and 12 to see the downfall. It helps you truly appreciate seasons 3-9 even more.
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>>533108702
If black people watch other black people do something, they will immediately not suck at it.
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They should unironically reboot the show in the spirit of the older series.

>Focuses on Bart or Lisa
>If Bart he works in some kind of construction or sales work, plots can focus around regretting not doing better in school and worries about following his slothful fathers' footsteps, has a girlfriend and kids, enjoys spending time with them this provides contrast with Homer whom was often neglectful.
>If Lisa she works in some kind of financial firm and is down about how there is little creative freedom in her life despite the money and high-power lifestyle she is afforded and that she can't connect with her kids. she is worried she isn't as caring a mother as her own was. Her upper-middle class lifestyle has alienated her further from her family and she attempts to reconnect with them in some way.
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Be honest /v, are you happy that your favorite shows ended in a good term or got cancelled soon, or would you rather see them go the Simpsons route with multiple bad seasons?
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>>533090921
King of the Hill and Futurama were the only ones that didn't truly go shit despite becoming weaker at the end. They knew when to stop.
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>>533108513
The same thing, basically.
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>>533109002
I'd rather they end at all (preferably on a high note) then have the life sucked out of them for decades.
Also Luz is a cutie.
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>>533109002
>Venture Bros. cancelled mid-production on the next season for no reason other than AT&T wanting to cut costs
>Meanwhile Two Busy Debras and fucking Tigtone get renewed

I do not have a reaction image that accurately reflects the rage I felt upon receiving this news, nor do I believe one even exists within the bounds of this physical universe, so Ill have to use this one instead.
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>>533086979
/v/
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>>533108691
perfect example of grimes

homer fucks up but succeed and is loved

konami works hard but still fails and is hated
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>>533108691
>>533109565
sorry i meant konami is not loved
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>>533109002
end them. I loved Bojack but i'm glad they ended it whilst it was still good quality (netflix are jews so ended the show over animator pay disputes). It also makes it better to recommend to others since there's a definitive end.

I unironically think Bojack Horseman is the closest thing in quality to old simpsons that any animated show afterwards has came, maybe series 4-9 of south park.
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>>533086979
/v/
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>>533109723
this desu
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>>533109002
>EEE ended on a high note
>nobody but the creator can ever bring it back
>the creator not only hates digital animation but the state of the industry itself

Yeah I'm a bit happy.
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>>533109696
>whilst it was still good quality
Last season was so fucking shit
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>>533109826
He's making a Netflix show now, Danny is based.
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>>533089550
he sits around and eats donuts all day, what do you even do that your job is better? i've been a button pusher for the better part of 2 years but homer seems to have it made (i never watched past s8)
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>>533109797
what was your favorite minigame in bart's nightmare?
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>>533102043
the tomacco is the last episode before zombie simpsons
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>>533110170
Pig
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>>533102413
Nu-spongebob maybe. The first three seasons are kino children's television
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>>533110170
T-Rex
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Can someone explain the tomacco episode? Do people like it solely because of the sneed meme?
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>>533110238

tomacco is unironically a decent ep. Sneed of course being the highlight for the episode and dare i say series as a whole.
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>>533110316
I thought the tomacco episode was amusing even before sneed
>it tastes like grandma!
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>>533107863
And nobody can tell the diddly-ifference.
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>>533086979
Frank was not grateful and despised people who had it better than him instead of making relationships and climbing the ladder.

Homer invited him from dinner and he could have easily just had dinner and be thankful to Homer for it. Him sperging out like that makes him look like a retard.
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Every single pokemon fan I've come across over the age of 8 is mentally ill. There's no reason to play pokemon outside that age. The older crowd, the ones in their 30s are especially mental wrecks especially the ones who play as the girl trainer, especially the ones who customize the girl trainer. Those people need to be killed, the world would be better off without them.
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>>533090231
>and he doesnt think "What a lucky man, im glad he never had to experience what I have", he thinks "he doesnt DESERVE it"
Only a massive cuck would be happy that a complete and utter failure of a human being lucked his way into a good life. It'd be like being happy for the Kardashitans.
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>>533086979
/v/
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>>533089207
he's not wrong tho. homer would actually survive that cause he's homer simpson.
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>>533110330
>tomacco is unironically a decent ep.
The Zorro parody at the start is unironically funny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mniOdBXH2Yk
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>>533109921
It was fine, it was probably joint weakest with the First Series but still much better than most other tv shows.

Big Mouth is a frustrating one. It has some genuinely funny moments and situations but is so overtly SJW pandering at times it's very hard to like it.

>>533110316
Yes. It's more glaring if you've been here long enough to have experienced the near constant simpsons filename threads or general simpsons threads before Sneedposting reached peak autism.

There used to be a simpsons thread in the catalogue of /v/ and /tv/ non-stop just about before the dark times came. Tomacco ep is pretty good though despite sneed.
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>>533110775

I Actually enjoy some episodes in season 10-12. The one where they go to japan isn't too bad with it's jokes. It makes fun of the pokemon seizure stuff.
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>>533110330
>>533110775
Despite the memes the sneed ep def feels like a classic simpson set up with a random ending without much morals. I like the three acts and its likes a season 6-7 ep
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>>533099968
>>533102373
I'm an anarcho-socialist but I don't care/desire to redeem /pol/ in any way. That whole board is just a comedy show to watch and I'd hate to try and change the channel.
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>>533086979
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>>533110305
100% agree
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>>533110905
>>533110905
>I'm an anarcho socialist
sneed
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>>533107942
>>533108070
>>533110462
It really became a parody of itself. Fucking depressing.
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>>533110316
It's just the meme, which in turn exists due to one anon's autism and contrarianism.
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>"Holidays of Future Passed"[...] Originally written as a potential series finale, the episode has received highly positive reception from television critics who often cited it as the best episode of the season.
We were so fucking close.
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>>533110619
Issue is that Frank's jealousy consumes him, which is what leads to his death because he becomes determined to have everyone see Homer the way he sees him.
People dislike the Kardashians but they don't have it become the main focus of their life.
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>>533110330
remember when tobacco saved lives because they had so much fucking money from making people sick? current year remembers.
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>>533111087
Could've been a really good ending. If not that, then the VH1 Behind the Music spoof episode would've sufficed.
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>>533111040
lol
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>>533111054
what if you made a series where every character was a tagline parody? asking for a major studio.
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>>533110961
this is accurate.
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>>533110905
I'm an anarcho-socialist
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>>533094881
Aren't the Disney+ episodes pan-and-scanned and upscaled to shit? Or did they change that?
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>>533109002
I wish Billy and Mandy ended a season or two sooner, I don't know what the fuck was going on the latter half but after the 3rd art shift it really started to going to shit in terms of quality episodes.
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>>533094881
>Are Futurama, Bobs Burgers or KOTH on there as well?
No because other TV companies own the streaming rights for them. IIRC Hulu has KOTH.
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>>533109696
>series 4-9 of south park.
baste, easily the best of the series. blended that classic "foul-mouthed kids doing kid-things" with social and political commentary perfectly, so many classic episodes.
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>>533109826
Its okay, Meatcanyon has our backs.
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>>533110852
>so overtly SJW pandering at times
I'm sorry but everything to the left of far-right extremism is not "SJW pandering"
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>>533111413
It went to shit when this faggot made his debut.
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>>533111492
yeah, it was at the sweet spot between surreal non-sequiturs and occasional topical humour before the show started becoming a 30 minute long pastiche of whatever is happening at the time and after the first couple of seasons of being random shock humour to appeal to gen x.
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>>533089080
>Tomacco ep
>10/10
it isn't that good
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>>533099074
I don't know, I liked some episodes of Orville because he clearly has a genuine love and respect for Star Trek TOS. It's just that the writing usually doesn't carry through.
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>>533111672
go back to /pol/ please this thread is pretty based.
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>>533086979
smart vs street smart
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>>533111979
>complains about muh SJWs
>"go back to /pol/"

lol you first faggot
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All you faggots need to go to
>>>/co/
where you fucking belong.
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>Julie Kavner sounds like she's literally dying
Just end the fucking show already
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>>533112146
just go back
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>>533109565
>>533109663
I really don't think Konami cares about the opinions of seething smelly vidya nerds when they're making gorillions, more than they ever made out of the smelly vidya nerds, out of pachinko anyway.
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>>533112265
She's been doing the voice for 33 years now.
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>>533109002
Arrested Development was killed while it was still good.
It should have stayed dead but they should have given it a full last season at least.
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>>533112227
All they're doing is bitching about the Animaniacs reboot.
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>>533111696
Yeah that's pretty much where I was going with that. Keeper of the Reaper was unironically the worst thing to happen to the series and is just a metaphor for the status quo being maintained forever. It's not hard to see the episode where Grim is forced to hang out with him is the writers annoyed by the fact they had to make an entire episode around him because of his unexpected popularity with retards, the ending would have straight up killed him off if not for the last 30 seconds showing he survived. Why he became the temporary face of Cartoon Network is beyond me but it was at that point Cartoon Network started to become a lot less interesting to me as a whole.
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>>533112265
don't worry
at the rate deepfakes are progressing, they won't need the voice actors next decade.
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>>533112437
Is ita actually good or is it another "I agree with the politics so its good and it can't be bad in any manner"? Almost every cartoon thats marketed there gets that treatment and Netflixvania was probably the only one that had a decent season.
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>>533112804
They cut all the side characters besides Pinky and Brain.
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>>533091060
Watch until you dont like it anymore.
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>>533112003
No it's an introvert vs an extrovert
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>>533098305
Bubonic plague was the reason the Renaissance happened, it cleared up so much land and holdings that happened at just the right time and place
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>>533112265
This is what will actually end the show
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>>533113067
VAs didn't want to come back, would you rather they recast them?
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>>533108285

That sounds very good actually. They'd have new stuff to write about.
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>>533113205
>happened at just the right time and place
>lightning in a bottle
And as we all know, that's easy to recreate!
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>>533113412
They didn't even contact them, at least Slappy's.
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>>533108285
Bart and Lisa at least need to be in their teens at this stage, one thing Simpson always lacked were characters in their teenage years
That, and they've exhausted every plot you could do as kid with them now after 30 years
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>>533096383
Chuck's Fuck and Suck
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>>533113629
Permanently aging your characters because you're out of ideas is the fastest way to tell your audience "we're out of ideas"

Its a sitcom, not a drama, the point is the characters stay relatively static.
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>>533089207
wtf??? is this real?
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>>533113506
It is, meet me back here in 10 days at 9 AM and I'll show you
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>>533091060
>unironically watching the simpsons
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>>533103329
give the guy his due seth is incredible as a voice actor
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>>533091060
Watch up to season 11 and pretend Behind the Laughter is the last episode
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>>533093262
Groening is a pedo, let him suffer.
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>>533114294
sure. I still think he's generally a faggot though.

It's telling that the show he dislikes most and has the least creative involvement in is the best of his work.
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>>533113763
They've been out of ideas for more than 20 years. Is this post meant to be ironic?
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>>533112804
The terrible animation is reason alone for me not to watch it.
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>>533114868
>Groening is a pedo
is pedo the new tranny?
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>>533113763
Not only does the audience know they are out of ideas, but the writers know that the audience know they're out of ideas. Clearly the simpsons can just keep trundling on but to suggest they can't change the format or formulae or people will know they're out of ideas is incredibly naïve.
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>>533115147
>Its a sitcom
>The point is that the characters remain relatively static
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>>533115563
He was in Epstein's plane and got a foot massage from underage sex slaves.
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>>533115671
>sitcoms don't age up characters
Simpsons has always been a parody of sitcoms and they've done nothing interesting with how the cast has been the past 23 years. Aging up the characters a bit would at least be somewhat interesting.
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>>533111576
you have to be over 18 to post here
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>>533115632
Aging the characters doesn't change the formula though, the formula is the same, just with older characters.

Drastic aging is just not something you typically see in sitcoms, especially animated sitcoms because they obviously don't star real people that actually age, because that's not what sitcoms are about or are trying to accomplish. They're not dramas, they're not vehicles for character growth, the characters have established, generally unchanging character traits because that's what the structure of a sitcom demands. The real answer is to go back in time 15+ years and end the show then, but that's not the reality we live in.
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>>533114663
Holy shit i thought i was the only one
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>>533089714
Good games? Yes.
Better games than Mario? Maybe.
More polished games than Mario? Fuck no.
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>>533087729
Homer may not have steak and lobster every night but on a single income with barely a BA the simpsons can afford 3 kids with numerous toys and hobbies, a large house with decent furnishings, and a large amount of food and unnecessary purchases. By any real world measure homer is generally an idiot who has lucked into a great life and Grimey was the real world creeping into springfield trying to point out the absurdity of it.
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>>533088292
this isnt what happened at all. the episode was about how hard frank works and how much the universe wants him to fail, meanwhile homer is a bumbling idiot with a wife, kids, one who owns a factory, eats lobster for dinner, and doesnt even know how to do his job. its summarized in the scene where he says "i work hard ever single day of my life and what do i have to show for it? a briefcase." it was the show writers showing someone normal interacting with springfield. he didnt think homer doesnt deserve happiness, he just thought homer was a fraud. the fucks hookers and abandons his child thing was a retcon that wasnt even in the episode
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>>533090231
frank gets punished for helping homer multiple times in the episode. anyone would be mad at homer and think hes a fraud if they were in franks shoes
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>>533115915
The thing is I don't disagree with you. I'm just saying that they clearly don't want to end it and obviously we can't magically end it 15 years ago this dead horse has been flogged so much it's now a shapeless puddle of what it used to be, I don't think aging up the characters or refocusing the show could do any harm to its' legacy or current reputation, it'd either kill the show off or give it new life
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>>533089875
No, but /lit/ is.
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>>533115743
>Matt Groening getting an awkward foot massage
I thought it was funny how out of all the people to focus on they picked him and that.
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>>533115743
but let me guess, you voted for trump :^)
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>>533095715
shove it up your ass
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>>533090673
>marge vs the monorail was hated
it was literally just rapid fire jokes, how could anyone not like it?
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>>533117030
Celebrities
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>>533109106
Eh...they both got pretty bad. Hank's servile prudish traits were flanderized until he became outright pathetic and futurama started doing a lot of blatant popscience moralizing.
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>>533117201
>Hank's servile prudish traits were flanderized until he became outright pathetic
>I didn't watch KOTH
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>>533115915
>They're not dramas, they're not vehicles for character growth, the characters have established, generally unchanging character traits because that's what the structure of a sitcom demands
>Frasier
>Friends
>HIMYM
>Fresh Prince
>TBBT
Without claiming anything about the quality of those shows, they've all been really popular and featured both aging and character growth.
It's animated shows that don't age characters, not sitcoms, and it usually has to do with the expenses of constant redesigns. Comedy is unrelated to character growth and can absolutely walk alongside it.
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>>533108306
Why do the japs like Lisa?
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>>533117784
I can't imagine why
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>>533117784
I think it's mainly porn. I'm not even trying to be funny.
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>>533117525
>they've all been really popular and featured both aging and character growth.
Again, I said relatively. Ross didn't become a completely different person at the end of the series, he was still Ross, so even though he had some relationships, maybe grow a little bit, he's still more or less the same Ross we knew at the start of the show, the point of Friends wasn't significant character growth. The structure of sitcom requires the characters stay relatively static, the humor comes from how the characters react in various situations. Its not Brekaing Bad or another serious drama where the point of the show is that incremental character growth that ends with the character basically being a new person at the end.

And I pointed out that obviously you're going to have human actors age because they're, you know, humans that age. I didn't say they couldn't grow at all, just that they remain relatively static. Frasier didn't stop being foppish, arrogant and somewhat self-absorbed, and arguably Niles had the only major series arc.
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>>533117784
Outside of lolicon, they love that she's respectful to her elders and has a focus on being studious and being a Buddhist.
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>>533117784
incest porn with Bart
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>>533118195
This is the third thread this week.
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>>533117784
the same reason westoids like anime girls
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>>533089865
Trump is a weak man who created hard times.
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>>533118504
the housing market was bound to crash no matter who became president
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>>533098006
but CHUCK
sells SUCK
and
FUCK
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>>533118050
You keep saying relatively, but it comes off as "completely" since you seem to disregard any form of character growth as valid. You are stuck in the idea that only dramas allow for character growth, which is completely unfounded.
Sitcom rely on static characters because it's easier, not because it's mandatory. yes, you need flawed individuals for a sitcom to work, but those flaws don't need to stay the same throughout their story, new and interesting mistakes should be allowed, and not allowing that to happen is what makes sitcoms feel stale after a while.
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>>533117784
>why do yellow people like yellow cunny
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>>533086979
>The Melee community has had grassroots support for 20 years, and what do we have to show for it? Our tournaments get taken down!
>And what does Nintendo have to show for their years of screwing over their biggest fans? A bestselling console!
>You're what's wrong with the video game industry, Nintendo.
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>>533109826
>nobody but the creator can ever bring it back
Cartoon Network gave him full rights to the show, correct? How did he even managed to do that? Has something like that ever happened again with a cartoon?
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>>533118725
He was based
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>>533086979
where do they get new viewers for the Simpsons? 3rd worlders? i don't think even hear it brought up anymore, unlike family guy and rick and morty.
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>>533118504
I'd say Obama was a weaker man considering how many times he cried on national television
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>>533118893
Boomers and /co/
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>>533118689
>You keep saying relatively, but it comes off as "completely" since you seem to disregard any form of character growth as valid
So you know what a sitcom is? If so, why are you insisting it be structured and written like a drama?
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>>533098006
Sneed was a forced meme done by one autist who wanted to derail any thread on the simpsons.
Think of ACfag, but /v/ adopts his shitposting instead of mocking him.
It shows how reddit tier it is.
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>>533118893
kind of sad how such a cutting edge show in the 90s basically became mickey mouse, hell mickey has had a better show in the last few years.
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>>533118912
Shows Obama has emotions. Trump created weak times by allow the pandemic to ravage America, give all the wealth to the billionaires and destroy the environment.
Now he's going to jail for his crimes too if his coup fails.
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>>533118893
Merchandising is the only thing still profitable.
So long as Simpsons Home Pregnancy Tests still sell, they'll keep the show on the air.
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>>533118725
He originally came to CN with his pitch but they wanted to have a bunch of control over it so he went to Nick. They caved and changed their minds allowing him control over the show outside the switch to digital which happened for budget reasons. But they only did that for 1 season and even included a sublte "Fuck Digital" easter egg in one episode.
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Kino thread, make more Simpsons threads /v/



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