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So what's going to happen when this game propels Vanillaware to mainstream? We've already seen what happened with Persona 5 and Nier Automata.
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>>524923292
Why would it?
If it's 3 back to back action RPGs didn't do that. What makes you think a VN would?
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>>524923396
The internet is a lot bigger place now than it was back when Odin Sphere was released. The same thing happened to Automata despite Nier being niche and Persona 3/4 being relatively more niche than Persona 5. I think this game will have the same effect.
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>>524923292
This game will filter many people, I can feel it.
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>>524923292
I dont know what it is so it's not mainsteam.
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>>524924002
True. but the VN crowd is still exponentially smaller than any other genre. So Next to nobody will care about the game
And I love George's games. I can't care less about a VN.
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>>524923292
Are you kidding? I'm afraid it's going to bankrupt Vanillaware given its a boxed release near full price VN ps4 game
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>>524924238
Yep, this. People already are shitting on it without playing it.
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>>524924238
Game is a strong word for a visual novel.
>>524924462
It's a VN made by a developer known for action RPGs, releasing close to the release of a new generation full priced.
It's climbing a cliff with a 120 degree incline.
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>>524924442
Fucking Doki Doki Literature Club was a VN that hit mainstream popularity just from becoming a meme alone. Yeah it was a flash in the pan piece of shit that rightly faded away, and it wasn't even Japanese, but the idea is that that's all it takes for something small and niche to become mainstream these days, a streamer mentioning or playing through it. Again Yoko Taro games and Persona used to be extremely niche in the west, now everyone and their dog seems to be anticipating these series.
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>>524924678
There is next to nothing to play.
It's 95% text and 5% tower defense.
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>>524923292
not sure i'd call this a mainstream kind of game but i'm welcome to be proven wrong on that
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>>524923292
they already went Mainstream with Dragon's Crown Journos seething over boobs and ass gave that game and it's studio all the publicity they could have ever asked for
everyone knows who they are
and i don't see how this game is gonna earn them more fame, the gameplay is shit,
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>>524924912
DDLC is a meme. Memes transcend genres. The people posting Bakamitai never played Yakuza nor do they ever plan to. 13th sentinels will need one hell of a meme for people outside of the VN scene to give a rats ass.
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>>524924678
just that one autist that's still mad that it's not odin sphere
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>>524924920
>filtered before its release
Groundbreaking
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>>524925480
>before it's release.
Been out in japan for months. I watched a Japanese streamer do the whole damn game.
It's Text text text text effortless tower defense text text text text text text text text effortless tower defense text text text ~ so on and so forth.
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>>524923292
This game has 0 mainstream appeal. It’s niche weebshit.
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>>524923292
>So what's going to happen when this game propels Vanillaware to mainstream?
Unless you have a monkey's paw ready, that shit will never happen. My pre-order should be here on Tues unless shipping gets fucked by the hurricane, but VW will always be an overlooked third party studio that produces beautiful games.

13S taking way too long to come out doesn't help either. They remade HD releases of at least three titles just to keep the lights on while putting it out
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bros I can't believe Vanillaware is fuckign dead
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>>524926396
was/is this theme releasing in the west?
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>>524925905
Persona 5 is a fucking dating sim with turn-based combat. How did that take off? Phoenix Wright is a visual novel, that took off too. It's easier than ever for chink shit to get exposure and mainstream popularity.
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>>524923292
>It's a VN
First vanillaware game I am skipping.
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>>524923292
>Vanillaware becoming mainstream from 13 Sentinels
You Yanks are being yanked by marketing. The game is trash.
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>>524926806
People love dating sim shit, look at Mass Effect and Witcher. Phoenix Wright isn't that popular outside of the niche hardcore fanbase who loves it. No-one gives a shit about mecha these days, not even Japan.
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>>524926609
From what I read the theme was bundled with first release copies in Japan. So I really doubt it unless we get an unexpected surprise next Tuesday

Atlus USA may throw up the theme and avatars as bundles, but it's still up in the air with nothing confirmed. If you're ardent on it and don't feel like trying to get some old Jap code, I'd ping Fatlus on twitter about it and hope for the best.

The most realistic option honestly to use it yourself would be to get someone with it to account share it with you, login on your PS4 with their credentials to download it, and then swap to it on your real PS4 account
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>>524924912
DDL is poised and written to become a meme. This game is not.
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>>524927135
>look at Mass Effect and Witcher.
Those are triple A fully 3D games. This is a 2D VN anime game. Different audiences. And I like Vanillaware, but even I can see this is not going to sell well in the west
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>>524923292
>>524926806
Odin Sphere Leifthrasir and Muramasa are the peak Vanillaware experience and they both sold less than Dragon's Crown, just accept the obscurity Vanillabros, Vanillaware's format for games will never be mainstream and there's nothing wrong with that.
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>>524927437
fuck. is it not on the jp store either? why did they make this stuck behind a pre order bonus?
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>>524928049
I just want them to survive well enough to keep releasing games and put them on pc
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>>524928151
just unironically keep begging on their twitter
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>>524928049

>mfw 13 Sentinels sold more than Odin Sphere, Odin Sphere Leifthrasir, Muramasa, and Muramasa Rebirth
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LUL. I'm a VW fan and even I know this is beyond niche
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>>524928049
Even less so with a nearly entirely VN focused "game"
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>>524928256
not happening my anon
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I hope we can have decent threads when the game releases in a few days.
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>>524929423
sadly they'll just turn to portbegging thread
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>>524929423
I'll make a few webms of good moments for posting, but I really don't expect it to do well thread wise without getting shitposted to death about
>VN tower defense $60 please port

>>524929590
DRAGONS CROWN HD PC WHEN WTF BROS WHY DOESN'T AN INDIE JAP STUDIO WANT MY MONEY
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>>524926609
No chance man, one look and you have your answer.
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>>524929423
Maybe in a couple of months.
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>>524923292
Why does Vanillaware hate Nintendo?
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>>524930548
You didn't buy Muramasa.
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>>524930071
Utsukushi
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>>524923292
>So what's going to happen when this game propels Vanillaware to mainstream?
Yeah, that's not going to happen.
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>>524930548
No one could. I remember Muramasa being sold only for like a week on retail. I got my Wii copy from a small vidya store and even they only had like two copies
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>>524930548

Because you didn't buy Muramasa.
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>>524929002
>positive word of mouth from both player and other industry figures caused sales to increase

And this is just in Japan, wait until it his US shores. You do realize that boomers like us and most of /v/ are the minority of gamers now, right? Zoomers get their information from streamers and their favorite Youtubers. All it takes is a guy with 10 million subs promoting a game or playing through it for it to take off.
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Is this shit censored?
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>>524933034

no
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>>524933034
I don't know.
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Nah. It's not going to blow up unless some big name streamer decides to pick it up, and it doesn't have enough meme potential for them to do that.
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>>524933034
no
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>>524933310
No more Atlus game Stephen
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I really want to go collect more fan art but I'm holding off. I fear the spoilers.
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>>524933967
Same
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You're going to get a shit ton of port begging like with every other good ps4 game
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>>524934390
I'M NOT OPENING THAT
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>>524933034
Modern playstation titles from japan are created with censorship in mind so there is nothing to censor from the beginning the western release is the only "version".
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GET MURAMASA OFF THE VITA YOU USELESS FUCKS
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>>524923292
>game
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>>524924002
You're insane. I like Vanillaware and think this game looks jank as fuck, it's also only on PS4 a console that just died.
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>>524934216
why did FREEing make her scale figure 1/4? way too big for a non bunny figure
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>>524923292
The one thing that may put it in the mainstream is new platforms getting another Dragon's Crown version with more stuff to do.
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>>524934602
>Used Vitas and Playstation TVs are still like $150 give or take a little
>Don't want to buy one because literally the only game I want to play is Muramasa
I bought the Wii version on release, goddamnit. I just want to play the updated version with all the DLC but I don't want to buy a Vita.
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>>524935280
buy it
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>>524935428
I probably will at some point, tbqh. Leading up to Aegis Rim I've been replaying Dragon's Crown, and after I finish Aegis Rim I'll go through Vanillaware's other games again. I'll eventually run out of Vanillaware games to replay and won't really have any choice but to cave and spend money on a Vita or some shit just to play the Muramasa remaster.
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>>524924462
>boxed release
What's that mean? Surely there's a digital version.
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It doesn't even look like a game when I search for gameplay of it. Unless there is something hidden I'm not seeing (I've seen the loli and she is hot but I don't think one loli can save this game)this game will probably fail.
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>>524923292
It won't. Western gamers are drooling autistic simpletons who just whine about battles and graphics and wouldn't understand the story to begin with.
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>>524923292
That's a nice dream anon.
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>VN
>propelling anything to mainstream

VNs are a niche genre that with a few exceptions doesn't have mass appeal
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It’s a tower defense visual novel that baits mech fans into believing it’s a mech game with mechs that literally face and ass fuck the pilots.

It’s going to flop in the west and sell moderately well in Japan.
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>play as dots on a screen
>dont worry you're really in a mech so its cool, right?
I don't think my hype for a game has ever died so fast before
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>>524943135
>play as dots on a screen
But that's every game.
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why is it ps4 only
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>>524943280
The dots for other games make it look like you're playing as other things though. This game just makes it look like dots
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>PC fags seething
>Switch fags seething
>Odin Sphere/Muramasa/Dragon's Crown fags seething
>/m/ seething

pretty good game
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>>524943468
bro i just wanna play it in bed chilling not lug my tv and ps4 over into my room bro please bro..
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>People getting filtered by the kino radar aesthetic
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>>524935280
>tfw grabbed a vitatv with memory card and controller at walmart for $30 when they were on firesale

Probably should have bought more than one but I'm not Jewish.
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Vanillaware has never made a good game.
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>>524944089
Let me borrow it, dude.
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Frontline 95/100 https://www.frontlinejp.net/2019/12/02/review-13-sentinels-aegis-rim/

Famitsu 38/40 https://personacentral.com/13-sentinels-aegis-rim-famitsu-review/

Amazon JP 4.7/5 https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%82%A2%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9%E3%82%B9-%E5%8D%81%E4%B8%89%E6%A9%9F%E5%85%B5%E9%98%B2%E8%A1%9B%E5%9C%8F-PS4/dp/B07VHTKB8P

4gamer 88/100 https://www.4gamer.net/games/310/G031035/

IGN JP 95/100 https://jp.ign.com/jyusankiheiboueiken/40126/review/sf

Eurogamer 'Essential'

RPG Site 10

Push Square 9

Wccftech 8.6

Destructoid 8.5

COGconnected 85

Game Informer 8

USGamer 4/5

Metacritic 86
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>>524927842
Huh? But there's nobody on top of the girl to the left.
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not gonna lie the gameplay looks like total shit
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>>524943595
lmao just get a vita and remote play
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>>524944968
This
sadly
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>>524944968
shut up loser it looks awesome, and the most lewd game i've seen that's not just a porn game
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>>524944968
>>524943135
>>524942912


>>524941067
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>>524945242
>the most lewd game i've seen
Have you even played any other Vanillaware game bro?
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>>524931467
I did... on the Vita.
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>>524924912
ddlc was free and 2 hours long, this is full price
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>>524931658
>originally being designed as a Dreamcast game
Huh. I never knew that!
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not paying more than 15€ for a movie game, sorry
they should have made it like Armored Core
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>>524923292
>So what's going to happen when this game propels Vanillaware to mainstream?
MAYBE THEY ARE FINALLY GOING TO RELEASE A COMPLETE VERSION OF MURAMASA ON A FUCKING PROPER HARDWARE?!
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>>524941067
>ugh if only I could be japanese
>you just don't get it
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so why did this get stuck in development hell for so long? it definitely was not because of the gameplay
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Is the UK version the same of the rest of Europe ? Is it translated in european languages?
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>>524946445
Ironically because it's such a story focused game, they had to draw so much more art than usual.
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>>524946445
https://www.frontlinejp.net/2019/12/07/how-13-sentinels-was-created-interview-with-george-kamitani-and-vanillaware-staff-part-1/
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>>524947319
>The RTS part of the game was also troublesome for them, as non-Japanese regions preferred harder difficulty levels while Japan preferred easier ones, something that they had already learned with Grim Grimoire. The inclusion of tower defence elements was to make it easier for Japanese players to get in to the game.

Why are japs so unrepentantly casual
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i hate niggers so much



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