Why is this allowed?
Why is THIS allowed?
Solemn warning, enemy controller, iron wall, etc
>>519546492that's the most pathetic flavor text I have ever seen in a card.
>>519546640This is a YGPRO thread dumb fuck
>Ban zone is literally GY2 now.Whatever.
>>519546529no one runs those anymore
>>519546389why is it allowed to have very small text that dosen't use up all the available space in the text box? I don't know anon. I truly don't know.
>>519547262to filter brainlets
>>519547289you mean eyelets, right? the post talk about making the text smaller, not adding more textor are you the brainlet?.
>>519547394>?.spotted the true brainlet
because i play gren maju
*blocks your path*
>>519547437spotted the true autist
>>519547570AHHHHHHHH THIS CARD HAS SO MANY WORDS MY BRAIN HURTS AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HELP ME NIGGER MAN HELP ME
>>519546887>banished is GY2>now need banish face down, the actual banishPretty silly
>>519547612>put every token-shaped object you own on this card>your opponent cant play cards>if your opponent rips up this card, kill them in real life
>>519546389i don't see anything wrong with this
hosting edopro eu casual pass is vidyanote is /v/
What's your favorite archetype /v/Mine is Vampires
>>519547706Welcome to modern YGO where you can vomit half of your deck into GY/Ban and still able to OTK or respond with some bullshit.
>>519546696Literally not vidya.
>>519548526super quanti get a huge stiffy whenever i accidentally make a really smart move
Check THIS out!
>it's another "I REMEMBER THE OLD DAYS" thread>it's another "unga bunga me summon summoned skull unga bunga me equip axe of despair" thread>it's another "NO SYNCHRO NO XYZ NO PENDULUM NO CHAIN LINKS NO META NO GRAVEYARD NO FUN" thread>it's another "well when /I/ play I [long list of backwards house rules that ruin the game]" thread>it's another "I Solemn Exodia!" thread>it's another "my 60 card deck of one-ofs beat peep!" thread>it's another "why do I need a magnifying glass for a card, and I'm not talking about Reinquished, TER, or Last Turn!" thread>it's another "archetypes (anything non-generic) killed the game but Pot of Greed, Graceful Charity, HFD, Heavy Storm, and the rest of Chaos/Goat staples are totally ok" thread>it's another "is mirror force banned????" thread>it's another "monster reborn needs to stay banned" thread>it's another "Synchros/Xyzs/Pendulums killed the game (forgets Airblade Turbo and DAD Return)" thread>it's another "holds up summoned skull let me have fun the wrong way" thread>it's another "any card thats black or white is sin!" thread>it's another "pls mak dark majishiun gud" thread>it's another "unga bunga me hate speed and combos" thread>it's another "unga bunga we need no white" thread>it's another "I hate extra links" thread>it's another "I hate settingu scales" thread>it's another "solemn is negated by jinzo" thread>it's another "lol remember when he attacked le mooooon" thread>it's another thread full of anime-only secondaries who miss le "golden" days>it's another "why do you keep slaughtering my gate guardian deck with these 'ritual beasts', they arent even blue!" thread>it's another "muh kozaky lock" thread>unga bunga another beatdown only unga thread>it's another "g-guys why can't I use my Stardust Dragon from Starlight Road again???" thread>it's another "Ring of Destruction on Peten!" "w-what do you mean it missed timing???" thread>it's another "flips Despell you activated my trap card!" thread
>>519548530How do we fix itI am so tired of waiting 10 minutes for a guy to normal summon one monster that follows up with special summoning his main and extra deck onto the field
No but really why is this allowed?
>>519547915hungry burger support when
>>519548838Because Reptiles are terrible
Why play ygo when magic exists
>>519548838No good reptile cards for this to actually matter.
>>519548858Get on the line
>>519549025because magic was putrid shit even before it got pozzed
>>519549057cant believe i let a faggot summon this shit on me as a kid
>>519549025>Why play Mario when Dark Souls exists?
>>519548838There's no good Reptile deck.I want them to just make one already so we can have fun for a few months until it gets banned.
>>519549082What's ygo then? Putrid shit's putrid shit?
>>519549025Why play SJW: The Pandering when you can play YGO?
>>519546887Kinda sad “Removed from Play” didn’t stick. If it’s removed from play, that shit shouldn’t be coming back for the rest of the duelBanish Face-Down just sounds gay
>>519549187Nope. Stay obsessed.
I set a monster face down. Your turn
>>519547915>Konami lets players decide themes for structure decks to give decks support>faggots all flock to already meta shot like Shaddolls instead of going full meme with Hungry Burg deck
>>519546389does anybody else refuse to play with decks past synchro?
>>519549285Hey me too! High-five
>>519549364No, why would I?
>>519549123I really like this card artworkI also like the playstyle behind Reptilianne and Venom, it's ability to bring opponent monsters to 0 is really rad
>>519549330At least they give decks to second and even third place.
>>519549426Would make a lot more sense for its materials to be 6 level 10 monsters than this.
>my boy got some supportDidn't see that coming
>>519549330shaddolls were dead before the structure deck came out
>>519549330I'm just stoked to see how they're gonna salvage the absolute dumpster fire that is Ice Barriers.
>>519549025Does Magic have cunny feet?
>>519548526destruction sword>>519549706they'll make it into a duel links deck, mark my words
>>519549646Does Jinzo affect trap cards that can be activated from the hand/gy?
lets fucking you niggersedopro eu casualnote is /v/pass is vidya
>>519549802That card is old. Current Jinzo rulings:>Trap Cards, and their effects on the field, cannot be activated. Negate all Trap effects on the field.So no, only on the field
>>519549025problem is mtg is a garbagefire now tooare there any card games that are good?
>>519549706It's either going to be Trish Turbo or spam the floodgates, probably the former.I'm hoping they'll still throw Gustos a bone for coming in third. They did for Charmers.
>>519549907Playing Final Fantasy TCG currently with friends. Its fun if you can ignore the ugly cards.
>>519549538Got 10,000 life points from this once, still lost though.
>>519549965do you think this is a motherfucking game
>>519549907DBS card game is pretty fun.
>>519549364i do but only locally with a few friends occasionally
>>519550094I do think it's a game, a card game
>>519550092Back when Konami had no fuckng idea of the rules of their own game. And sometimes I still wonder if they do.
>>519548837There is no fixing it at this point. You'd have to ban more than half the card start from the ground up with better design philosophies. Probably why they keep experimenting with speed dueling format and duel links shit.
>>519550028>>519550254will look into these, thanks anons
I SET A CARD FACE DOWN AND END MY TURN
>>519550418KoA sure doesn't.>Kaiser Colosseum banned because they cba to figure out kaiju rulings>pic related is literally a "Scrap" card and can be used by Scrapstorm, even though the jp version isn't like that>Mecha-Dogoran wasn't printed as a nomi, but they changed their minds and reprinted it after several years of "well the PSCT doesn't say it's a nomi so don't play it as one durr"
DO NOT OPEN
>Gives U.A's their mythical second lvl4 and more.>Completely redo's Noble Knights.While OCG is busy fixing TCG archetypes can they make more Time Thiefs?
Post custom cards, go on, design a good card. We'll judge you.
>>519551434I hate that I could immediately recognize Time Thieves were a TCG archetype just because of their uninspired Spyral ripoffs like "this spell card represents a mission they're going on!"And then the wiki told me they're a Doctor Who reference and it all became clear to me.
>>519551694I already posted a whole CaC archetype on the /tg/ YGO general and I am not posting all that shot again
>>519548526Pure D/D/D has been my shit since back before we got D’arc.
>>519546492konami trying to show up wotc at bad flavor text I see
>>519546887gy is basically hand2 as well, but it's been that way for a whilethis has kept reptiles down for a long time apparently
>>519551694>not a polymorph
>>519551859Then just put the post numbers
>>519549025ygo scratches a different itch than magic to me though I like both.
>>519552430Looks like it isn't, fug
>>519551396>omninegates that power it up AND destructionwtf konami
I play Toads and Cake Girls, what do I win.
>>519547570>all that goddamn tiny ant textGod, fuck modern YGO.
>>519552791>Madolchesbsaed, I haven't played since Nekroz / Shaddolls, are cake whores even still viable?
>>519549907What's wrong with Magic currently? Just got into it playing Commander with a friend.
>>519552791This injected in your ass
>>519548526Shadolls because I'm a faggot.
>>519552964Very actually! Sistart and the basic abolishment of GR4 means we can setup OTK's reliably, however, as normal we fold to search disruption without a response in hand.>>519552982I play a dedicated going second build for this exact reason. Packs Evenly's Lightning Storms and Cosmic cyclones to rip that kind of stuff apart.
>>519552969>wotc not hiring artists for wrongthink>banning more cards in three years than in the 15 years before that>cards that are only a couple sets old being reprinted in core sets>quality with their secret lair cards is abysmal>ikoria introduced a mechanic so broken it had to be errata'd a month after release
>>519553168>wrongthinkoh no people don't want me around because I'm constantly racist, I'm being oppressed waaaah
>>519548526DM and DMG.
can you beat this with a shit tier deck?
>>519553273drink the yummy soyy
>>519551396It's all coming together.
>>519553307>not being a racist makes me soiokay, at least I won't die alone like you
>>519553165The master rule that added links into the game. Also made all extra deck monster only be summoned into two places, wherever a link arrow was, or in the link/extra monster zone. Now all but pen summons are free to go wherever.
>Activate Lair of Darkness>Activate Share the Pain>Delete 2 monsters ignoring all protection effects for freenothin personnel kid
>>519553168FIRE design is a fucking blightAnd companion is a huge fucking mistake.Most mechanics, even the really bad ones, could be alright if they aren't attached to busted effects, but even a weaker companion is still ultimately another card you have access to outside the hand by its own effect. Like since the nerf, a lot of decks still run them since even if they can't be used nearly as much as before, running them is flat out better than not if it doesn't seriously impact your deck construction.Ultimately, it's like letting some decks have a very limited extra deck while most decks just don't. Magic doesn't need that anymore than ygo needs lands.
>>519553361Other way around kid, you'll die alone and I won't
>>519551020i dueled my friend who ran a za warudo meme deck on me like 40 times and he won like twice. I gotta say, those defeats were literally heart wrenching cause i just had to sit there and watch myself get fucked.
>>519553352>He doesn't know.
>>519552430Anon you forgot to deleted it
>>519553352>>519553864I can't wait to BIG ROCK, Sphere mode and Gameciel every single Dragun I come across for the next 5 months until the card gets banned.
>>519554046Is that a female
>>519551396I'm mad that this fucker got red-eyes fusion limited.
>>519554185>thighs like thatdoes it matter? i'd take em to pound town in a minute.
>>519554185BEWD is literally a female
>>519554210As if it mattered. Most meta will run just 1 anyway to throw it way with Verte
>>519551694not sure if it's worded right[trap]if it is your turn, you can activate [cardname] from your handwhen a card or card effect would negate a summon, an effect or activation of a card you own: instead that card or effect resolves as normal.
>>519546389>requires exactly 3 monsters that add up to exactly 9 stars>one must be a tuner and the other 2 must not be tunersIt's generic but still not exactly the easiest recipe to fulfill. Now anything that can turbo this shit out while still having it count as a proper Synchro summon, fuck that noise.
>>519552969powercreep by way of bad playtesting/card designit's sad to watch happen
>>519554393what's really disappointing is that sneedlefiber can make it easily in a lot of decks, and then they use trish to overlay VFD, and there's 100% chance VFD will get hit just because konami has already banned 7 things instead of sneedlefiber
Would this be playable?
>>519553123>as normal we fold to search disruption without a response in hand.Not if you open into based Salon.
>>519548787Found the autist
>>519546389Oh shit. I just realized this synchro summon requires 2 or more tuners. Back in the day I used to summon it with only one tuner and one monster. I have been playing this dude illegally.
>>519554578That's very fair, Salon does allow us to bait out some counters and negates in the opening turn. Honestly the way the deck ticks now is extremely satisfying to play.
>>519554487>every deck uses noodle, it isn't banned >only pends used Electrumite and they only had one meta deck, Electrumite got banned>pends are still MR4edWhy does Konami hate pendulum?
>>519554303>On your turn, you can activate this card from your hand. When a card would negate the effect of a card you own, negate its effect.Would never happen without a cost attached to it. Too generic for its own good.
>>519554557only if there's a field spell that gives you 5 tokens with that type.and your psct on the send 6 effect might be incorrect, I think they would word it like Gumblar Dragon's "(whichever is higher)", or at least I think they would keep it as once sentence instead of 2.and the last effect's psct is definitely wrong, it would be "if this card is sent (optional:from the field) to the graveyard: shuffle
chad decks ww@
>>519554862pendulums have to stay in mr4, since links send them to the ED unlike xyz, and don't have the gay conditions every pendulum tuner has.
>>519548526The charmers.Taken a liking to the ghost girls too, so I'm trying to put them together and theorycraft a deck with the new support I'm getting drip-fed.
>>519555293Who do you think is the cutest charmerMy vote goes to Hiita
>>519551694So it's just MR3: the card? Also, I'd fix that first effect to banish face-down for extra sauce. Still doesn't hit cards that are unaffected by card effects.
>>519548743ngl he makes my dick throbshame he has literally no art
>>519555410I'm in Hiita's field too, but Eria is a very close second. I got those two first back-to-back years ago.
>>519554978wanted it to be a straight one for one. maybe you're right on it being too powerful. would adding discard 1 onto the cost be enough to balance it out?
>>519555564>KoA making all the uncensored Harpies into promos.
>>519548526skull servantsfun > viable
>>519555706At this point, it's fucking happening at all.
>>519555662Its pretty similar to Red Reboot, which got limited. Discarding would leave you -2 to negate an effect, which is fair.
If your archetype doesn't have at least one loli, it's bad
>>519556109what about a literal fetus?
Give me a deck to try
>>519556109Does she count?
>>519555706Hey I'm just glad we're finally getting uncensored art in the tcg
>>519550705>This is my town of mamaroneck
>>519552571>Avatar Tuner>not actually a tunerfucking dropped
>>519556289When's this coming out in non-moonspeak?
>>519550806I did this once with my 15 year old deck against a girl with a modern machine deck. I got ultra-rekt on first turn.
>>519556904Women play yugioh?
i wish there was a spirits archetype based on the zodiac and also the zodiac monsters were animals and not humans
>>519557029Been too long since the last Wight card. We're do for another.
>>519548526toon because i love that shit for some fucking reason.
>>519557217Yes, but WHEN? Like, when is this set to actually release in the TCG?
>>519557045>>519557127This one did. She was fugly tho.
>>519547542>needs 8 banished cards to beat a Blue EyesIs this little guy still useful? Can he still be the center of an entire deck?
>>519557395The ways of Konami are dark, mysterious and highly retarded.
Foolish fools, there are no women in yugiohThere are only extremely girly men, and I am the most girly of them all
>>519557630>Activates pot of desires in your path
>>519557630>Is this little guy still useful? Can he still be the center of an entire deck?yes and yes
>>519557630blue-eyes isn't even good on it's own lmao
>>519546492>>519546996I honestly prefer Avram's crusadia attire.The question is, will Dragma be as Kino as World Legacy lore?
>>519548526Forever and always.
>>519557630[laughs in pot]
Why is he so obsessed with card games?
What do you guys think about making a yugioh cube?
>>519554210He will be limited as well. Then some other cards too until they finally ban Verte Anaconda which is the fucking reason why this fucker is so easy to summon. They never go after the source of the problem until it's way too late.
>>519558628Autism, possibly unironic.
>>519553290I wish they made a new ones. I always used those games to figure out some weird rulings.
>>519549025Fuck off trannyhttps://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=463429-14841065
some of you autists need to get to making fangames and romhacks. Something like duel academy but more modern, but not too modern
How do you destroy this nigga?
>>519559303You don't, you do literally anything else but destroy. Send, bounce, tribute, banish, a shitton of options. He can still be targeted.
>>519559303Negate effect, then destroy. Or just use any kind of non-destruction removal, there's plenty of that.
>>519559303the queen baby
>>519548526HERO and resonators/DARK dragon synchro
>>519558971>Use Ass Blassum on Stone>Use Solemn Strike on the same stoneI forgot Dueling Network was a thing.
>>519559432honk honk, can't stop the bakery queen
>>519559303Kaijus for example since you just can't destroy him but anything else. Or cards that banish monsters. If he had target protection he'd be a more serious problem.
>>519559317>class system based on card gamesNow I can't help but wonder how that would work.
>>519557703>that time when they made Minerva a championship prize and kept her there for 2 years
>>519559303He's dino bait anon
>>519548526The only good thing that came out of the cancerous Link era.
>>519548526Dinos. Dino dolls was probably my favorite deck I've ever played.
>>519559997Links are a decent mechanic, Konami just went overboard with their gatekeeping.
>>519559760>implying it'd even be that much different from the actual world we have nowYou wouldn't have to wonder that hard. The poor get filler jank and can never move up in the world because they will only have filler jank. Should jank actually get usable once, the upper class would just take them since the poor are in no position to bargin and have no leverage. Middle class get to have actual competent decks, and hand-me-downs of the upper class when they get new toys, but those decks still won't be able to punch through and beat upper class.Upper class will always have what's winning and since they have the funds to keep winning they will always be able to buy what's good and win.
>>519550885Dont forget about KoA fucking up Altergeist and Zeroboros' effects in their first printing.
>>519560187They're just easier XYZ with some zone placement shenanigans.
>>519560202But Yusei told me that there are no bad cards, only bad duelists!
>>519555102Right here bro
>>519546887Soon we will get ‘actually removed from play for realsies you guys’ and there will be archetypes abusing that too. Yugioh is trash.
>>519560347Yeah, it's banish face-down. Stupid, I know.
>>519547542Played this guy with skull lair and gravity bind back in school. My scrub friends didn‘t know how to deal with it so I killed Yu-Gi-Oh.
>>519549025Because Magic is an inferior game
>>519548526Chad Beast switcheroo shenanigans
>>519560229They were just a bunch of gatekeeping contact fusions, the problem is how much degenerate shit they had day 1 and it only kept getting worse every other set. Im glad the other summon methods are no longer tied to them (except Pends lmao!)
>>519553168>ikoria introduced a mechanic so broken it had to be errata'd a month after releaseshiiiet, what did it do?I only play Magic casually with my daughter because Yugioh is too complicated for her
>>519554557>dies to a trap or monster effect before the battle phaseSucks and too annoying to summon, assuming your board didn't get Nibiru'd
FALCONCHADS RISE UP! We are finally getting the rest of our xyz!
>>519548526The original masters of build a board negates
>>519560662Yes, the thing that really sucked about them no longer applies since MR5, which now makes them fine. They WERE shit, now they're like any other type. Also, Summon Sorceress has been banned for a while now. They do need to give Needlefiber the boot, though. That's just bog standard Konami retardation at work, that's not exclusive to Links.>>519560680Not any moreso than Synchros or XYZ.
I miss macro monarchs
>>519560706Companion mechanic lets you put one of 10 designated creatures in your sideboard, which you can then cast from the sideboard, effectively giving you a 7 card hand plus a curve topper. Pic related ruled every format including vintage and another one had to be banned from EDH on announcement
>>519561035Synchro and Xyz are intuitive and peave plenty of design space. Links are overly complicated and simultaneously too open. The card frame is also incredibly ugly
>>519561265>lets you put one of 10 designated creatures in your sideboard, which you can then cast from the sideboardkekholy fuck
>>519561480>Links are overly complicatedPleb>The card frame is also incredibly uglyFag
>>519561480I'm not following.
>>519561546If you like links, then you're the pleb fag anon. This is a simple fact of life.
>>519561481to be fair, all of them have a specific condition for being declared a "companion" (and thus castable from the sideboard), it just so happens that some of the conditions were incredibly easy to fulfill
>>519546389Targeting vs not targeting is one of the dumbest fucking things in yugioh.t. judged my locals for over two years
>>519554210>meanwhile dragon link can run 3 magicalized fusion and just Dark Magician
>>519561481They had to errata it so you pay 3 to put it in your hand, not outright cast. Pretty much killed them.
>>519553352Is this going to get limited as a result?
>>519561637You're clearly a bottom table shitter.Who cares what plebs think.
>>519561715It's crystal clear in cards with current enough PCST - if it doesn't say target then it doesn't target.
>>519559317Kaiba also goes back in fucking time at the end of dark side of dimensions to duel the Pharaoh in his own time. So theres no telling how much shit he actually influenced in the history of the yugioh universe.
>>519561809But how do you verify this in match? The opponent just searches your deck?
>>519561939"Not targeting" is a contradiction of semantics vs actual game design. Even if you're "not targeting" you still pick a card, the rules just don't recognize it as such and don't pass priority to the other player.
>>519548526I want to say Nephthys, but to honest I only really like Cerulean Phoenix
>>519562079yeah it's a weird distinctionlike they started building around awkward early language
>>519562017No, you don't have to verify your card count or numbers of duplicates of a card when you play a duel, why would this be any different?
>>519562079>semanticsWe don't talk about that when it comes to this game.
>>519562017Like any of the other conditions, you just have to wait until your opponent plays a card that breaches the condition.It's not any different than the general rule of "you can't have more than 4 of a card".
>>519546389>The card in the hand is chosen at randomHow does that work? Does your enemy choose them without seeing them? Do you shuffle them and then pick one?
>>519561934Because i dislike a mechanic? Thats retarded lolYou're a retarded pleb fag
>>519562256Not him but you dislike it for non-reasons.
>>519562219You are choosing it, so I would assume you just pick a card from your opponent's hand.
What's that really garbage archetype you'd like support for?For me, it's sphinx
What does it feel like having never experienced development and desperately clinging to a shitty card game meant for kids? Play some other games and dont waste your remaining time on this braindead dopamine outsourcer.
>>519562195>"Trust me bro, there's only odds there"Proceeds to build variety of odds/even burn deck and only summon him if sure wont breach "rule"Jesus MTG is retarded
>>519562359>modern YGO>meant for kids*laughs in effect timing*
>>519562376It's not really any different than any deck-building restriction in the vast majority of games.Like, Yugioh has restricted cards. How do you know how many your opponent has without deck checking him?
>>519562179Not targeting is the worse case of it IMO, most the other weird issues are a lot more niche so they don't come up in duels hardly as often.I'm pretty sure I had to explain not targeting probably once a week though, especially when shit like madolches first came out.
>>519562503>madolchesOh God, I can taste the salt from here.
>>519551396>haven't played yugioh in 4 years and never played meta shit just with friends get the wild hair too and check out ygopro again>make a pretty basic bitch red eyes deck and this not the best thing>can pretty much get this son of a bitch out reliably in first turnSon of a bitch is crazy. And I'm not even doing everything I can to make the most of it kek
>>519562301I dislike it because its poorly designed, how is that a non reason? Link fans are always so dishonest. The mechanic is unpopular because its shit, get over it
>>519548526Traptrix. Honourable mentions to Burgesstoma, Deskbots, and Genex.
>>519562686Dragun's kind of a universal equalizer. Any deck that can make room for 2 bricks, a fusion spell and a couple extra deck monsters can run it. Also get 2 effect monsters out on the board but pffffffhahahahahahahahahahaha
>>519549364No but my friend and I play 2014 banlist. Lots of good decks available at that time.
>>519562484To be fair, the last time "miss timing" was an actual issue was 5 years ago with Yang Zings
>>519562219You set the cards face down and give them a number and then roll the dice. Dangers work in a similar way.
>>519562343Pic related or just more pyro support in general
>>519563084MtG players used to use this card to make fun of yugioh players
>>519548526As a deck? Cyber Dragons.But I love the Red Dragon ED monsters more than anything. I just hate the Resonators because they're useless without a non-tuner.
>>519546389I legit stopped caring about Yu Gi Oh the moment Synchros appeared What did I miss?
>>519562719>because its poorly designedHow? They probably have the most generic recipes of any type on average and their effects are usually checked in some way by the pointer mechanic. Synchros are way wonkier but tend to be even more busted as a tradeoff for the extra effort. Links are braindead easy compared to pretty much anything before it. Most complicated thing about it is co-linking and extra linking, neither of which are necessary concerns for just splashing the mechanic in a deck. Just unga cards together, know what it does to shit it points to and that's all 95% of decks need. The reason they were hated was because MR4 fucking sucked and Fusions/Synchros/XYZ got fucked for no good reason for 3 years. That's not the case anymore so what's the issue?
>>519562376Infernity players used to put monsters facedown in the spell/trap zone bro.
>>519562503Choose at activation = targetChoose at resolution = not targetIt's literally that simple.Hate how stupid people are
>>519563136Who cares what MTG trannies used to to think, they should be more worried about Wizards shitting in their mouths for being men.
>>519563205The waifu renaissance
>>519562825I'm willing to bet most children do not care about or even note the differences between when and if, also and after that, or shit like semicolons and colons. Hell, I'd be surprised if they cared much about what effects were mandatory and which ones weren't. That's not to say they can't learn, I just doubt they care.
>>519563330Did you actually read the reply chain?The content of your post was already discussed, you have added nothing new to the conversation.
>>519563320Okay, let me rephrase how much bullshit can you do now and with how many less cards than before?
WHY ARENT OCG NIGGERS PLAYING THREE TACTICAL NIGGERS?I BOUGHT 3 COPIES ON PRESALE AT $120 EACH AND THE PRICE WENT DOWN TO $70FUCK
>>519563530literally no one mentioned activation vs resolution
I just destroyed both of my friends with pure ochadma power a few minutes ago, feels good man
>>519563574>how much bullshit can you do nowYou can finish on a field of 6+ negates/disruption>with how many less cards than before?Sometimes with 1-2 cards with lots of searchingAlso D.D. Crow is not the only "hand trap" There's tons of them now
>>519563241Turning yugioh into a board game+being overly generic are the main reasons linls are widely considered poorly designed
>>519563618>WHY ARENT OCG NIGGERS PLAYING THREE TACTICAL NIGGERS?it's too situational to be omni-useful
>>519563393Over 10 million people play magicOnly 10 thousand people play yugioh
>>519563618Even a card that good still seems a bit situational, like it can really fuck someone in if you're going first, they hand trap, and then you hit them with the Forceful Sentry effect so they open with a 4 card hand, but it seems a bit like Evenly or Lightning Storm - strong, but it has its place.
>>519562503It's a valid complaint for cards before PSCT but wasn't Madolche released after PSCT? There should be no confusion then.
>>519563393Wizards was fine back then, and mtg was fun. I miss those days...
>>519563776>Only 10 thousand people play yugiohKEKMore sales and bigger events than MTGStay mad
>>519563749>into a board gameBecause zone placement finally matters for the first time ever? I'd say I'm surprised it took this long but Ground Collapse is a thing that happened, I guess. It's an extra layer of tactics, I don't see the issue with it.>being overly genericAt this point, it doesn't really tip any scales that XYZ didn't already tip. Shit like rank 4 toolkits were already allowing for link-like extra deck vomit.
>>519563787Queen is post PSCTShe declares bounce 2 after the semi-colon
>>519563776Magic numbers are inflated and sales do not reflect them whereas Duel Links has millions of downloads.
>>519563703I miss the days when kids thought you could normal summon the Flame Swordsman
>>519563628For someone so eager to calls others stupid you sure have a hard fucking time understanding things. The discussion was about the poor ambiguity between the two from a mechanical stand point, not how the actual rule works, literally everyone in that conversation clearly understood the difference between the two. For you to suggest otherwise either shows your lack of properly reading the chain, or just straight ignorance.
>>519547570More like "Endimyon, the Slayer of Illiterate Boomers".
>>519564058Blame the anime for that one.
>>519564076I wasn't talking about the two posters.Players in general, but go off
>Basically just play ancient gear/grave keepers.and all my other decks got hit so i haven't restructured them.I need to try something new but don't wanna use a deck that reaches too far outside its own archetype to the point its just SS spam into extra deck nor do i wanna play dinosaurs. Are modern lightsworns any good? After they nuked a few cards in the 60 deck versions i haven't tried to make another in awhile.
>>519563787You say this like people at locals would understand the difference right away.
>>519564013>Because zone placement finally matters for the first time ever? Yea. I came to play a card game, not a board game. Zones shouldnt matter just like graveyard order shouldnt matter>At this point, it doesn't really tip any scales that XYZ didn't already tip. Shit like rank 4 toolkits were already allowing for link-like extra deck vomit.Taking bad game design and making it worse is, get this, bad game design
>>519564209Madolche is extra deck spam but it stays within it's Archtype.
>>519547915Do americans really put 3 of...
>>519563084That's with PSCT, the original was even worse.
>>519564278>Zones shouldnt matter just like graveyard order shouldnt matterAgain, you're a plebkek
>Don't know anything about Yugioh beyond playing Dark Duel stories when I was a kid>Kinda know some MTG>Get invited by this cute guy to his place (I am also guy) to play Yugioh with him>He has tons of premade decks>Don't understand a single fucking thing about any of them>Have to put my glasses on just to read have the text>"I ritual unsummon these XYZ materials to ritual summon this guy in this link mode">"Anon...you...can't do that"I really like playing Go Fish.
>>519564209Chad archetype when?
>>519564380At least i have an argument mr. Retard pleb faggot
>>519564458Your "argument" is that you don't like the game being less simplegit gud
>>519564403Sorry, Yugioh is not made for fags. Konami literally sprays some chemical on cards that messes up your vision if you get railed by people of the same sex.Try Magic tho, I heard it's really simple, and they even have pretty symbols for you to look at in their cards.
>>519564278>I came to play a card game, not a board game.You're still playing a card game. That never changed.>Taking bad game design and making it worse is, get this, bad game designIt's not really bad, though. If anything, generic powerful links make it to where any deck can utilize powerful tools and stay some kind of viable. The best decks will still win, but any old deck that can fulfill a recipe for ,say, Borrelsword Dragon can potentially benefit from it, especially ones that have a hard time doing damage quickly. Just a catch-all solution that most any deck can be designed to use, even bad ones.
>>519564589I don't get railed. I do the railing.
>>519564452It has existed for a long time
Are Charmers good? Should I get their new structure pack and start playing the game?I don't know much about it but charmers look cute I guess.
>>519546389YGO peaked 2005. Chaos was fine. No synchro shit, no pendulum shit. God knows what other wank they've forced into it since then.
>>519564589>Sorry, Yugioh is not made for fags
>>519564706Just Links which are pretty good.
>>519564678Shiet, then idk what happened.Maybe just read the rulebook?
>Spend money on Rikka since I like plant cards/creatures in fiction>They arent very good>Covid shuts down locals so I can't even use themOh
>>519564884Their new Xyz is excellent.
>>519564884At least you got some cute cards.
>>519564706Game's in a very healthy state in terms of rulings. Some floating cards could use the banhammer but when isn't that the case? In any case you missed MR4, lucky bastard.
>>519563784>Forceful SentryHold on a sec, is that card legal again?
>>519554557Assuming you brought it out its okay. Tbh the only thing that makes it even okay is just taking another turn. The thing is though that in yugioh you probably wouldn't ever meet its summoning conditions so you wouldn't run it. There is generic sideboard that could beat this card too.
>>519564058But you can do that now
>>519564964I agree, the problem is the Covid has left us without a banlist right when we need it the most, competitive ygo is currently filled with too many degenerate tactics (and it's gonna get worse with ROTD)
>>519564937Im gonna be sad if I dont pull her next week.
>>519564568Thats a legit argument anon, especially when the complications it provides are tedious at best. Of course, i wouldnt expect a link fan to understand game design>>519564595It turned into a board game with links. A card board game.And it is bad, anon. It was bad when xyz did it and much, much worse with Links. Having generic catch all solutions is one thing but they arent just solutions, they're also threats.
>>519565148Links under MR5 have been nothing but good for the game from a design point.The only issue is some cards are too good, but that's been something forever
How do we make dragonmaids viable?I like them too much to not play them
>>519565279They are actually topping here and there in OCG.
>>519560284>Say the duelist who play the rarest card in the whole world (Stardust)
>>519565364I honestly dont know either
>>519559010... I never see Trishula miss timing in my entire life
>>519565245Im saying they play like shit, im not talking about balancing. They're too generic.
>>519565578Explain.What's the debris dragon for?What's super poly for?
>>519565148>It turned into a board game with links. A card board game.You keep saying this but I'm not convinced that this is anything more than personal feelings towards a thing that you personally do not like. It was like that in MR4 but hasn't been that way for the last 4 months so I don't understand this complaint, Konami fixed this problem.>It was bad when xyz did it and much, much worse with Links.It's "worse" with Links but not much worse, by and large it just did away with the level requirement. Some monsters are more generic in only needing things like effect monsters or monsters of a different name (a requirement which does actually exclude some decks to a practical degree) but plenty of Links still have some considerable limitations on recipes.>Having generic catch all solutions is one thing but they arent just solutions, they're also threats.Most of these cards are designed to be one or the other. The most busted Links are typically easy catalysts into more shit, which is why everyone is shitting themselves over Needlefiber instead of links designed to be a threat like Crusadia Avramax. The latter's a hell of a one card wall but the former's breadth of utility and options make it straight up degenerate.
>>519565627>They're too generic.This is not a problem
>>519565656>What's the debris dragon for?That's Koa'ki Meiru Drago, not Debris Dragon>What's super poly for?pic related
>>519565578Careful, this decklist will trigger the fuck out of TCG combo players
>>519565704None of what you said counters my points. "Its not *that* bad" doesnt mean its good. At best, links are passable, but i hate the way they play so i say they're shit.
>>519565578>>519565782I mainly just play around on Legacy of the Duelist and I hate that it's always behind. Took forever to add in Dragonmaids and now that they're in they don't have chambermaid/sheou.
>>519563770>too situational>When hand-trap is the norm
>>519565729It is tho. Compare it to synchro which needs a tuner and non tuners with a specific level, or xyz which require monsters of a specific level and its easy tosee which mechanic isbetter designed.
NOW YOU REMEMBER DUELIST OF THE ROSE We will never have DoTR format irl
>>519565849The first point directly counters the assertion that Links are a board game - they have not been since the implementation of MR5. The third point explains that Links are not both answers and threats most of the time, and that the real problem cards tend to be the ones that are insanely good extenders.
>>519565954Sync and XYZ were just as easy to summon because everything was designed around it.Link being generic means even old decks and archetypes can benefit from the mechanic instead of just new strategies.It's good design
>>519566041This game was so fucking fun and unique.I would love a sequel game to it with way more cards and much deeper and longer campaign.Or a fucking tabletop game of it.If you and a group of friends cared enough you could make your own board and rules and play with the cards IRL
Good Yugioh videogame when?
>>519565823Making Adamancipator players seethe in Edopro with my Subterror and Altergeist deck brings me great joy
>>519566060But it doesnt, you just said they arent board game like despite the fact that they still are.And links are generic enough that you can pick between threat, answer, or extender (or some combination of the 3). The borrels are threat/answers for example.The extenders are also problems.>>519566063>Sync and XYZ were just as easy to summon because everything was designed around it.Factually untrue.>Link being generic means even old decks and archetypes can benefit from the mechanic instead of just new strategies.Thats bad design, yes.
>>519566153Yeah, people try to create format using Table Top Simulatorhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxMqB5flc9gThe problem is noone agree the rule
>>519566153Ask /tg/ to homebrew it.
>>519566209I know what you're talking about, the fucking niggers that bring numeron eldlich and adamatias to the casual server deserve every ounce of cancer my altergeists can throw at them.
>>519564706I used to think this until playing through LotD. YGO pre-extra deck summoning was fucking boring.
>>519566209I play Subterror Madolche online now.Stole some decklist from an Mkohl40 vid.Deck mains TCBOO and Gozen Match kek
>>519566295>But it doesnt, you just said they arent board game like despite the fact that they still are.You're just sticking your fingers in your ears at this point. The thing you are complaining about has gone away unless you REALLY want to play your deck that way. Some strategies still emphasize personal card placements, most do not need to care all that much.>And links are generic enough that you can pick between threat, answer, or extender (or some combination of the 3).Nothing new, extra deck strategies could already do this before Links.>The extenders are also problems.It's where the actual problems of Links lie and why cards like Summon Sorceress get banned instead of something like Apollousa, which has non-OPT negates out the ass as a defensive option. Even that isn't as busted as free extenders in Links. But it has nothing to do with the issues you've taken with the mechanic. You're complaining about the shit that isn't actually broken within the mechanic and overlooking that which is, at least before I pointed it out anyways.
>>519566295>Sync and XYZ were just as easy to summon because everything was designed around it.>Factually untrue.Factually super fucking trueI played a fuck ton in those formats.You're a faggot.Also no deck has EVER reached the combo jerk off power of XYZSynchro Infernity decks
>>519566786Factually untrue anon, read the cards.
>tfw can't figure out how to make my shaddoll dogmatika core smallerBeing a brainlet sucks
>>519566873Is that actually a top tier deck in the TCG?
>>519566930Nah, I just wanted to make it work.
>>519546389>This bad boy here going to get new support soonAlso Trishula confirm HONORABLE Infernityhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWQN1CFaiK4&t=842s
>>519567526If I were a casual wouldn't I just netdeck whatever invoked dragma shit that's out on the net and call it a day?
>>519546492I don't get it, what should I check out?
>YGO is now a "whoever plays first wins" game>MTG has jewish trickery and blue cards>DCGs are Hearthstone variantsIts cool, its not like i wanted a fun card game to play.
>>519567818Honestly, only casuals play non competitive decks unfortunately
>>519546887>nowalright faggot we can pretend it hasnt been for 15 years if you need
>>519546389Is Trish still good? I got one as part of Duel Devastator, which at least wasn't damaged like the lolis were.
>literally steals your cardwhy is this allowed?
>>519568335Ever try eternal card game?
Okay but what if new archetype with this gimmick on every card>If this card is summoned/activated, [do average thing]>If this card's summon/activation is negated, [do better thing]
>>519568745>mandatory chain link 3 effectsPlease God, no.
>>519568684Why play yet another variant instead of the original thing? I dont say other digital card games shouldnt exist but developers hardly try to differ from hearthstone and thats off-putting with me, same reason i didnt bother with shadowverse much, yes i know it works differently but ya know what i mean.
>>519568347Meh. Just because I'm not playing a meta deck doesn't mean I'm automatically a casual. I just want to try something else.
>>519568602>steal your deckNothing personel
>>519571826If someone tried to touch my Ten Thousand Dragon I'd flip the table.
>>519571910>Ten Thousand DragonHow fucking rare is this thing supposed to be? Only one in a hundred boxes?
>>519572663One in fifty, it's the same rarity as the other starlight rare in the box.It's just expensive because it has its own unique rarity type and collector value.
>>519547706Why do Yu-Gi-Oh players think that keywords are so bad when PSCT introduced words like "banish" and "piercing damage" when they could have say "put out of play" or "During battle between (X) and a Defense Position monster whose DEF is lower than the ATK of this card, inflict the difference as Battle Damage to your opponent."?
>>519573142Keywords cannot work in YGO, how exactly are you gonna explain what Eternal Soul does with keywords? PSCT is enough to keep things as short and simple as possible. People who complain about YGO card text is the same people who complain about the lack of tutorials in games even tho there's walls of text explaining every little thing.
>>519573142Not really got a problem with it in cases like you described but they should be a last resort and saved for extremely common and wordy mechanics. A lot of cards do a lot of wild shit though which is why PSCT works better in most cases. It works, and it's flexible at the same time.
>>519573142Because Yugioh cards and Magic cards are not played the same.Magic cards use keywords because they follow the rules set by the game.Yugioh cards give you instructions on what to do with a card that is not defined by the rules of the game.
>>519548526Cyber Dragons because high ATK are ebin and Infinity
>>519574026I've never played magic, do they get to interrupt their opponent's turn to take their own turn inside of their opponent's turn like us Yugichads can?
>>519573142because first and foremost, the game made for Jap
name a more powerful monster
>>519558117>is super old. still shits one new meta and powercreep cards. always a fav
When will Glad Beasts be good again bros?...
>>519546684>>519551925>>519567923The hero who defends the light of the starsMust destroy the darkness of the illusory worldAnd entrust his power to the chosen one.The will inherited by the chalice of the stars will become a new keyAnd become the sword that cuts down darkness.
>>519573142I tried to take a few different cards a few weeks ago and come up with what they'd look like with keywords.I'm honestly under the impression now that it simply can't be done with how yugioh worksYugioh is too reliant on situational conditions and requirements for how cards work for keywords to functionIt seems simple when you try to come up with them for one card at a time, but then when you try to apply them to multiple cards, they quickly start contradicting eachother or requiring so many qualifiers that there'd be an unreasonable number of different keywords to learn, to the point that the cards would be even more confusing for a new player coming in.You'd need at least 10 different keywords for different kinds of special summons and when the effect activates and the cost of activating the effect.
>>519573142they can't do it without people rule layering up the ass if you don't specify it
>>519548526I loved Dragunity, and then Dragon Ravine got banned because of Elemental Dragon shenanigans
>>519548526Trickstars.Prior to that, it was Silent Magician/Swordsman, though I'm not sure they are big enough to qualify as an archetype.
>>5195464920 DEF lmao
>>519546389Are the Ice Barriers even good anymore?
>>519549907Flesh and blood
God classic YGO was so fucking comfy. Watching the anime, playing with friends when we had no idea what were doing and only vaguely followed the rules.I want to go back bros.
>>519553273Cutting ties with an artist you've worked with for over ten years because of who she follows on Twitter is incredibly retarded, regardless of which side it is.
>>519573652>Keywords cannot work in YGOExcept I already showed that YGO uses them.>how exactly are you gonna explain what Eternal Soul does with keywords?With other words? Using keywords doesn't stop you from writing out effects.>>519575463>I'm honestly under the impression now that it simply can't be done with how yugioh worksI'm not saying that YGO needs keywords (it is too fucking late for that) but I saying that YGO players seem to think that this somehow magically makes YGO better than 90% of TCGs which does use keywords. If you want to be technical about it, all fucking TCGs use keywords including YGO.
>>519580983The way the game works is that you literally do what the card says, using keywords or less text will make things vague and chaotic, moreso than it already is to be honest. In summary: veterans can tell what cards do easily and new players just need to read the damn text once.
>>519581174>using keywords or less text will make things vague and chaoticSo "banish" or "piercing damage" is too vague for you?
>>519581271these are very specific mechanics and *can* use keywords, but in general you cant just do that for every single effect because most effects work in their own way
>>519581387>these are very specific mechanics and *can* use keywordsWhat do you think keywords are for?>but in general you cant just do that for every single effectAnd nobody does this or expects to do this.
>>5195576308 cards is fucking nothing
>>519578018Soon to be, bro
Let start with keyword HOPT. that thing take at least 2 line
>>519575036They were decentish back in spyral format because their go second was pretty solid. However theyre eternally just bad Dinos, super conductor is just way fucking better.
>>519578738Nah it definitely wasnt. I guarantee you'll change your opinion if get back into yugioh and find a modern deck you like playing. Old ygo's "me summon unga and use equip spell" gameplay is boring enough that whenever I go back to try playing one of the old games, I have to resist the urge to just drop it.
I miss GX guys...
>>519549025Ygo doesn't ban cards because they target black creatures.
>>519546887I think its okay. Sure, the wording is bad but its still a cool thing because for many decks it actually is impossible to get removed cards back because you need specific cards to make use of the """removed""" cards.
>>519553273Banning White cards because they have the audacity to effect Black cards isn't about racism, it just makes the game worse.
>suddenly have to put extreme attention to card placementFuck Links
>>519582675based. get woke get broke. mtg is past its prime
>>519548526Synchron warriors.Too bad they suck.
>>519553290Yea. Just use an AR to get all the cards and make an actual deck to RP with in each chapter. Start weak, and add in good stuff from the archetype/whatever as you go. Its more fun.
>>519547915WHERE IS THE HUNGRY BURGER SUPPORT KONAMIGIVE ME A HUNGRY BURGER DECK THATS PLAYABLE DAMN IT
>>519548526Monarchs, the CHAD archtype.
>>519580983>>519581174the introduction of OPT and HOPT keywords would shave down card text in half for most cards
>>519574951When will they unban Engage?
>>519582909No, that isn't the reason.
How do I play Dragonmaids?
>>519584097unlikely. for the same reason spyral crap will remain banned.
>>519568335>Whoever plays first wins. Lmao, not in this format. Nibiru, evenly, lightning Storm, Dark Ruler, and and super poly make this a decidedly go second format.
>>519558131he fights hunger
>>519558131I read that as Evil Burger Warrior and thought that was a slur for American soldiers.>>519583963>the introduction of OPT and HOPT keywordsSo "Once Per Turn" because "Only once per turn" is a common restriction to avoid infinite combos.
>>519547570God, modern yugioh card design is absolute shit and half of the creature design is garbage too (this one is okay).It's not enough that there is already a huge textbox at the bottom, no, we need another one above it. Fuck this shit game.
Do you think konami will ever let the fans design an archetype?
Is modern yugioh the ultimate brainlet filter?many of the replies in this thread make me think so
>>519546389Isn’t it still banned?
I summon THE TUNER MONSTER, INFERNITY BEETLE
Who's the most based YGO MC and why is it Yusei?
>>519584375They literally banned white board wipes because they don’t also effect white creatures.
>>519587140You damn well know they will added unnecessary restriction
>>519588181It is even banned in Vintage, a format which only outright bans cards that you flick into the air and cards that are literally illegal to play because it turns the game into gambling.
>>519589267I still want to pitch my stupid pokemon inspired archetype
>>519557703We have still never got Fiend Kracken in the TCG. I'm still butthurt about that, especially after all the Speed Duel and Legendary Duelist sets focused on Mako.
I'm replaying Tag Force 3, these games were so fun.What deck should I make ?
>>519590271im surprised that squid nigga is in all the games
>>519588092he has the best themeshttps://youtu.be/ebU7DA4GVW8
>>519547915They should just add the food monsters that Ra yellow teacher had in GX and let it support Hungry Burger that way.
>>519551434I dont keep up with OCG and I love noble knights give me the quick rundown
>>519565578whats the trap card between impermanence and warning?
>>519591414Here's your new noble knights.
>>519591631These actually seem pretty cool, its a shame they're so element specific but they look like they mesh well
>>519549243Nothing can ever "stick" when your business model requires you to releases new overpowered cards every few months.
>>519550705I recognize that gay blowjob.
>>519576727I want alternate art Holly Angel to peg me
>>519590313Batterymen, or pick an archetype for your self-insert to use that nobody in the show used.
>>519552732And non targeting destruction that also burns that can be used possibly twice.
I'm going to play mystic mine and you can't stop me /v/.
>>519593232sure, play it
>>519593232>he thinks people aren't main-decking quickplay S/T removal in the numeron and eldlich format
>>519593486>>519593590To be fair, you have to have a really high iq to understand this deck.
>>519548526They weren't even great, but god were they fun to play.
>>519593797Cosmic cyclone is a thing. A very big thing in fact.
>>519551462That's not fucking bad.
>>519548787Actually applicable for the first time in a while
>>519548526True Draco because fuck the extra deck
>>519594071No, we cant have that now.
>>519594492Shit now you got me.
>>519594761And now we wait...
>>519594492yugioh is so fucking wordy. could just say, "pay half your LP, counter targer monster, spell or trap". Also, "negate the summon" and "destroy that card", was this just transliterated japanese?
>>519594917>loops this 20 times>win the duel
>>519594990Yugioh needs keywords. Its only a few years ago that piercing and mill got their own keywords.
>>519594990problem solving card text is a saving grace and you should learn it.
>>519595104>implying I don't want to watch him suffer as we both twiddle our thumbs until he dies
>>519594917>>519595104Stop it.>>519594990We have psct and the wording needs to be as specific as possible to avoid ambiguity.
Whats the yugioh equivalent of pic related, /v/?
>>519595426Depends. What does untap mean?
>>519595557This card basically gives you an extra turn on your opponents turn. Your lands are your resources to generate mana for spells. When they're tapped, it basically means they've been used up for that turn.
>>519595743>>519595557Except, since its an enchantment, it stays on the field because its a "permanent." So unless its immediately removed, you keep getting basically free extra turns.
>>519595426Pic related. I vastly prefer skipping my opponent turn entirely with meme like The World and Bamboo
>>519595426>specific as possible to avoid ambiguity.Don't mention this to the keywords guy, he'll sperg out again and scream about piercing
>>519551694>Generic 1 material Link>Extra Deck summons to ANY monster zone by ANY playerNice Beelze/Flare Metal FTK support.
>>519595980fuck, meant for>>519595324
>>519595426Probably Escalation of the Monarchs or Ultimate Offering.
>>519595426I don't know what untapping does on MtG but by the gist of it, it's some sort of on-spot recycling so probably pic related.>>519595743Nevermind. If going by literal sense of skipping OP's turn, Arcana force the world. If going by "continuously generating resources" during your OP's turn, Mirage of a nightmare probably.
>>519595743there are a couple different cards that skip different parts of the opponents turnsome skip the main phase, some the battle phase, etc
>>519596274The best part is, mirage of nightmare is permanently on the banned list. Wilderness rec is allowed to be at 4 still in the format its ruined. So if you're ever wondering why people complain about Temur Reclamation, that's the card. It never got banned, none of the key pieces got hit, and all wotc has done is just print more busted cards for temur reclamation to play with.
>>519563203Cyber dragons are still my go-to, It's nice that there's still a few (viable) decks that operate around "Summon a monster with as many 0s in it's attack as possible and obliterate your opponent in one shot".