Arent these numbers kinda low for how big The Little Mermaid's budget is and what it needs to break even? Is this just cope?
>>185444912I don't own stocks in this corporation, do you? If not, why do you care how much money millionaires make?
>>185444912Like Disney cares. Their live action esg films could, and do, all lose money and they will continue making them.
>>185444912$100 million total for the theatrical run would be low. $100 million just for an opening weekend seems really high
>>185444912Kek. Expectations already coming down. >>185445422Not for the budget. 2.5x budget is break even for 80% of films. 3x budget is break even for 100%. Beauty and Beast opened to &180m
>>185444912It'll do decent numbers domestically. Foreigners don't care. Probably $500m-$600m globally when it's all said and done.
>>185446496Which would be a loss
>>185444912>Arent these numbers kinda low for how big The Little Mermaid's budget is and what it needs to break even?
>>185444912The domestic numbers are fine. American culture is centred around ... The problem is that this thing's got a huge budget and it's looking like a flop internationally.
>>185445013>Uh, why do you care if Disney loses money?>>185445316>Disney doesn't care if they lose money here.>>185447432>Disney will just make more money elsewhere.
>>185445422No it's very low. Quantumania opened with 104 million and flopped but you can still read shill articles everywhere how its massive opening kek.
>it will make 180 m>no wait 160 m>okay 140 m>it will definitely make 120 m>it's making 100m, a record!we did it reddit!
>>185447798It's not fine for a movie they expected to reach billion my friend. Why do you think it has 250 million budget? These people are fucking delusional and believe their own propaganda.
>RebootIs this a trilogy?
>>185444912Wait until you see how bad the international numbers are
>>185449023What will their excuse be? The world is racist? It's everyone else who is wrong?
>>185448754Melody is voiced by a Jew, so I fail to see how they'll be allowed to replace her with a black like they did Ariel.
It's okay, surely all the black people will come out and support the movie right? I mean it's for them after all.
>>185444912It literally doesn't matter if they make money off of this, the people in charge and people they need to pay have already been paid.
>>185447432Netflix helping them by shitting the bed at every turn
>>185445013I'm shorting DIS right now for the next 48 hoursso yes, I do carehope I can make margin call *pulls on collar nervously*
I've checked all my local kinoplexes screenings tonight and they're not selling out. Even a screening less than half an hour from now is maybe a quarter full.
>>185447432now show q1 2023
>>185444912100 million for a big budget IP is awful! Every big movie today is front loaded with massive second weekend drop offs. So unless it gets the rare Top Gun Maverick legs, it’s a bomb
>>185444912they are going to spin this focusing only on the domestic box office after seeing the abysmal projections overseas
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>>185449796I just went to the booking site for tonight's showings for my local cinema. Still plenty of seats.Also movie tickets are $29 now? What the fuck? I haven't been to the cinemas since Last Jedi. What a fucking joke. Imagine paying that for the slop they're now producing.
iI’ll be shocked if it makes less than 100m. No fucking way. Too many woke pathetic white women will go see it
>>185450193This is only talking about the opening weekend.
>>18545006229 bones? Is it IMAX at least? 3D? Do the ushers tickle your taint during the musical numbers?
>>185450449That’s all movies are now. Every big movie has big opening weekends with massive second weekend drops. Only accepting in the last year was Maverick
>>185444912They're hoping Blacks will watch this like they did Black Panther.
>>185449241Those articles will happen either way. If it bombs, cause racism. If it's successful, it wasn't successful enough cause racism.
>>185444912$100M on Memorial Day weekend? That's terrible. They were projecting around $200M a few weeks ago.
>>185449241I'm pretty sure they already used that for one Mexico interview where Halle Bailey was uncomfortable when the guy said "This isn't a question. It's something I want to share with you. I promise, no one in that movie theater was looking at your skin color last night. Everyone, everyone, including my wife and my children, was lost in your eyes. Everyone." How dare he say her skin color didn't matter in her performance when Halle always brings up her race in many articles brought up about her. Clearly not seeing race is the most racist thing you can do.
No way woke and Homosexual Mafia will allow this to bomb!
>>185450021Pandering shillsbarely discreetbaiting our previewsfor the racist tweets?Wouldn't you think we don't knowthe public's tired of thisLook at my castingisn't it bold?Can this cavern fiterrything that I stole?Looking around here you'd think,Sure, we was Kangs.
This movie is DEFINITELY not hitting a billion at the box office. It's already DOA in Asia and Latin America. I don't imagine it'll do very well in Europe except for maybe UK and France.
>>185450509It did turn out it was on the bigger screen but it's not IMAX. The seats for the standard showing are $26.50.
>>185450797Bad reviews are probably dissuading people from watching it.
>>185451227Aladdin and Lion King both had worse reviews and were box office hits. There's only one reason The Little Mermaid is bombing in foreign territories.
>>185444912It's making 120 million minimum, so yes this is cope.
>>185448131>You are here
>>185444912If this movie does that well, it will be because Disney bought their own tickets.
>>185444912Took my wife to see it because the cartoon one is her favorite movie.I do not believe they spent whatever amount they’re claiming in production.The costumes are awful, the sets look cheap as fuck, the voice editing (except for the songs) is complete garbage, it doesn’t even fit the mouth movements.It looks like they filmed it in one of the parks with the hired the actors there as extras.And they didn’t even had to spend a cent in writers, is 99% the same scenes shot for shot as the cartoon.Cheap ass flick.And did they even spend money in advertising? I swear I never saw the trailer and I only heard about it from all the manufactured outrage online about the negrees.The song scenes are ok, though. 2/5 overall.
>>185450005What gets me is that Disney knows Chinese moviegoers don't want to see black people on the screen. That's why they hid the black Storm Trooper on the posters for the Chinese market. They must have known this would happen.
Americans will watch literally anything if it has blacks in it.
>>185451572My girl refuses to watch precisely because she loved the original so much. She also had me listen to Part of Your World while she shat on the girl singing
I work in a larger AMC with an Imax and a Dolby theater. It was quiet in the screenings today. Most theaters on average had 15 or under seats sold and our largest screening on a normal screen had 27 seats sold. One of the Dolby shows had 2 seats sold, two guys and a 3D showing had 9 sold. Tomorrow and Saturday don’t have any packed theaters either. I think the most sold screening might be around 30. Most afternoon into the latest Fast X screenings were pretty packed except for the front and some side areas. Disney’s PR to the owners buzz on the film was huge and to expect big crowds. They asked a lot of us to come in extra but we may not need it. They cut a lot of the 20 screens we have to pipe this and Fast X but have already changed the listings for Sun, Mon and Tues last shows in Imax and Dolby back to Fast X. They didn’t have a single ticket sold on any of those shows. It will be interesting to see how this pans out. We have a ridiculous amount of stuff they sent from giant standees and banners to little dangle logos and stickers stuck everywhere.
>>185444912I only care in that media outlets for some reason have to do damage control for Disney and Amazon now.
>>185451287>Aladdin and Lion King both had worse reviews and were box office hits.Sure, but Aladdin also made like $700 million less than Lion King.I think the novelty factor of these movies quickly wore off and enthusiasm dwindles with each release.
>>185452641I think you underestimate how braindead the average consoomer is. They don't care about novelty. If they did, they wouldn't be making 50 fucking Marvel movies a year.
>>185452708>If they did, they wouldn't be making 50 fucking Marvel movies a year.Have you seen the box office of the most recent Marvel releases?They are pathetically low, relative to the success of the other movies.
>>185444912They said 200-250 mill opening just a few days ago. Now its only 100 mill?How do they even come up with these projections anyways?
>>185452918Yup, only took em 15 years to get bored with
>>185453037>They said 200-250 mill opening just a few days ago. Now its only 100 mill?The 200-250 million was probably global opening. 100 mill for domestic.
>>185453037>How do they even come up with these projections anyways?No clue.There's no science to it. It's kind of like predicting the outcomes of elections.
Kids don't really want to see live action shit anyway, do they?
>>185444912It was headed towards 120 million yesterday. What happened?
>>185453216>>185453037its probably a lot of bullshit, but there are pre-sale tickets that they can use as an estimate of interest.
>>185453127>The 200-250 million was probably global opening.Oh yeah that makes more sense.
>>185445013I have a job, so I DO own stocks in the corporation, like everyone else with a pension fund.
>>185444912major success and the chuds will never recover from being absolutely assblasted and prolapsed
>>185453216It's based on comparing the movie to other similar movies' performances taking into account what time of year it is, holidays, number of screens, etcthe-numbers dot com shows you their prediction model for every weekends new releases
>>185453127Wasn't it originally 120 or 180 domestic? I think only yesterday that was still the estimate even though there were reports of empty showings and low reservation numbers. I kept wondering where they were getting those numbers even though interest for this film seems lower than that of GotG3.Different audiences aside, I can't see it doing overwhelmingly better despite having a seemingly broader market.
>>185444912lmao yesterday they were shilling a $120m opening. I'd be surprised if it does more than $150m total people are so tired of niggers it's unreal, and the niggers they need support from aren't really the type to stand in line and pay for things.
>>185454023confirmed lmao, the local chinese theater has 2 seats sold for tomorrow.nigger bros did we get too cocky?
>>185444912>One of 2023's biggest releasesI thank Big Brother for increasing our chocolate rations to 20 grams per week
>>185447432>Puposely leaving out 2023How's the weather in Tel Aviv?
>>185446068Another case of Disney and their top shareholders buying up theatres to make it seem like the public is interested in their bs
>>185448613smash or pass?
>>185444912quick lets reviewbomb em some more chudbros
>>185448613>Home schooling is OK and has nothing to do with far-right nazi chuds, as long as it fits our narrative
>>1854544226 million 1 star reviews coming up
>>185453037Obviously there are multiple opinions based off the climate and pre-ticket sales. It's like asking who will win a football game and by how much.
>>185453268When they say opening weekend here do they mean the 3 or 4 days?
>>185454217>4.45pmNice cherry picking faggot. Post 7pm which is probably sold out
>>185451572My gf learned about the movie 3 days ago>"wait, she's a nigger now?"I love her so much
>>185445013The amount of money can be seen as a rough measure of how much the public where suckered in.
>>185454366>>185447432>150 million minimumWhat the fuck
Look at it. Look at its fucking face. Its fucking head. Already you can tell it's an absolute fucking nigger retard. I want to grab that negress and Hail Mary the niglet into a fucking active VOLCANO. I want to drop-punt it over the Eiffel Tower. I want to have chains on its arms and legs and have wild dogs run in different directions so its fucking limbs get snapped off.I fucking hate niggers so fucking much.
Considering how hard it's bombing overseas it won't break even unless blackrock buys hundreds of millions worth of tickets in the US
>>185445316They don't really lose money anymore on things like this. They get put on Disney+ to fill out their selection so they have big enough and diverse enough library to appeal to all demographics. They wanted black fish to appeal to the nigs and it's going to make them a fuckton of money over time in continued subscriptions even if the movie itself is subpar.
>>185448480>expected to reach billionBullshitNo one expected that did they?
>>185447432They're losing a clean billion every quarter on disney+ alone btw
>>185445013Rofl who the FUCK doesn't have a 401k at least? Who? You? Rofl. YWNBAW.
>>185455953Dude the budget was 250M. They need to do a half billion just to break even.
>>185455953Well the Lion King did it
>>185455907Disney+ itself is a financial disaster, anything put there is actually losing MORE money since the streaming service itself is a money pit
>>1854544544 toes and 5 fingers
why wouldn't it do well? even that dogshit aladdin live action made over a billion dollars despite being panned by critics.
>>185456231IdiotPoint is in SK they're hiding that there's a nigger in it at all by using the gook who sings for the movie in all the promotion instead of the golliwog
>>185445013Ywnbaw >>185444912It will do averaged success. Probably 500-600 mil but it is still undeserved and a trash fucking movie.
>>185445316Investors are pulling out of ESG bs rapidly.
>100 millydo you remember when disney movies printed money?yeah, me neither
>>185457414technically true irregardless of how much it's making. But will it get there?
HOL UP, did they raceswap the fish as well?
>>185455964That's pennies for them. New platforms are always run at a loss
>>185444912It's not a 'reboot.' It's a live action adaptation. Did they advertise Lion King or Beauty +Beast as 'reboots'? No they did not, I'm pretty sure. And when you start fucking up on your basic terminology that betrays a certain degree of nervousness.
>>185457560>disney world getting fucked with>several movie flops>d+ burning money>economy tumbling over all leading to less to spend on frivolous mediaTell me again about Disney's bright future
>>185457616"reboot" is a fresh amount of honesty imo. "Live action adaptation" doesn't admit to just how much they remove these things from the source material.
I just got back from seeing this movie (my wife wanted to see it opening night) I went in expecting forgettable and soulless, but entertaining for the two hours or whatever I had to sit there.You will not have to review bomb this movie. There was not a single good thing about it. It was laughably awful, and I give everything a chance.
>>185457668McCarthy was hot, kekBut yeah it was boring as shit, the lead girl is a charisma void, the movie is ugly (reminded me of Valerian), and the new songs stink. >SCUTTLEBUTTone interesting choice was making Prince Eric into more of a character this time, opposite of what I would've expectedThe shit about being "heard" at the end and the multicultural mermaid brigade were cringe
>>185457737forgotThey were talking about Eric's mom and then they were going to show her and the camera was panning down from the ceiling and my mind went "please don't be black, please don't be black", and then she came into shot and BAM, black lady, lmaoFucking laughable
>>185457737All of the extra songs were terrible, people were laughing during Eric's song. All of the underwater/cg parts looked like a Superbowl commercial. Everything was so painfully drawn out. I like animation so I've seen the first movie a lot of times, it's a work of art. Every moment that's emotional or tense in the original is completely devoid of soul in this version. I hate in all these remakes how they add stupid unnecessary lore. The thing about forgetting the kiss was retarded, every one of the original songs was worse. It was offensive. During "Part of Your World" I physically cringed.
>>185444912>Arent these numbers kinda lowBlack Rocks running out of money now that the money printing has stopped.Can't buy out as many theatre seats.
>>185457665from the clips ive seen it's the same story as in the cartoon, so that makes it a remake. a live action one.an "adaptation" sounds like it includes both the concepts of a reboot and a remake. i've not seen the film, nor do i want to, but it sure looks like a remake.
>>185457560>That's pennies for them.No it's not. Disney isn't the infinite money stash you think it is
Disney adult xisters... capitalism has won
>>185450005the jew fears the rice farmer
Movie will make most of his money in America because mutts are obsessed with niggrs
>>185450062>that lone mf in K27
>>185445013For the same reason anyone on either side of the argument cares about this movie at all: validation.
>>185444912The most illuminating thing about all this kind of stuff came from a guest on the Boy Meets World podcast. Some female exec that worked on that show was discussing casting black actresses and brought up that many around her in the biz and friends pointed out "How far it's going in one way" and how that feels like overboard, and she points out that's maybe so but it will "correct itself". Really interesting to hear that even those in that business feel it's top much.
>>185458766More the rest of the world is just less likely to put up with them
>>185445316Yeah ask Bud Lite how that's working out. You can be the wokest company on earth with a perfect ESG score but if you can't make a profit you will still go out of business.
>>185451572>people for which little mermaid was the favourite movie are now getting marriedit's over
>>185453037cool it with the antisemitic remarks
>>185454366With that manly subscribers how come Star Wars shows only get like 2 million views?
Who the FUCK is watching these things? Like those women lead marvel films, black panther, etc. Seriously, what are those numbers? How is that possible?Am I just disconnected from reality or living an alternate world? I know it's anecdotal evidence but I don't know a single human being that watches this shit. Not even the most turboNPC leftist fags do.>old people don't watch movies>zoomers don't watch movies unless they're netflix stuff, pozzed shows or tiktok reelsI really don't fucking understand. At this point I'm ready to accept what I always thought, Hollywood is money laundering. They don't care about the numbers and just lie about them
>>185458870Hollywood does money launder just like art exhibits traffic humans
>>185458870You have no idea how huge the Disney canon is with normies, esp womenThe Beauty & the Beast and Lion King remakes are both in the top 20 highest grossing films all timeIf they'd kept Ariel white, it'd be in there too
>>185447370Are you genuinely retarded?
>>185444912>one of 2023 biggest releasesThey just keep giving lower and lower projections.
>>185458870My sister watches all the new Disney stuff with her son. She considers them mediocre, but doesn’t hate them and is happy for anything that keeps an energetic child still for a little while. My mom says she like the live action remakes. None of them watch Marvel slop though.
>>185444912Ummm chuddies? It's hitting $1 billion with a 125m opening on the 4 day weekend.
>>185457444To be fair, I don't think Flounder was any specific species/race to swap from.Still salty that they race AND gender swapped Scuttle. They did Buddy Hackett's spirit dirty.
>>185444912Budget is apparently $250M on wikipedia. Kind of weird though since the CG looks terrible so where did the budget go?
>>185458674I think the ignorant imagine these companies as some sort of machine operates purely on earns and losses and they simply need to balance out, forgetting it has owners that constantly seek growth otherwise they lose out.
>Take colorful animated movie featuring 10/10 beauty girl as lead looking for love>Make it 3dpd and kill the color>Cast one of the ugliest women they could find with a ugly skin tone instead of any of the tons of gorgeous black women or carribiean women around>prof-I mean flopseeing this flop is restoring my faith in humanity.
>>185446496>Foreigners don't care.They hate niggers everywhere else in the world that matters to films, like China.India it might do ok, but they are shitskins anyways.>Seeing a Little Mermaid remake with shitskins set in the Gangese would be funny as fuck
>>185451673THEY WILL LOVE THE NEGROES JUST LIKE WHITE COUNTRIES DO!
>>185450005>in THE territorywhat the fuck is this highlighting of THE bullshit? Someone help me ?
>>185458776it's so he can bust a nut
>>185455546marry her and get her pregnant today if true, anon.
>>185459293they aim to make a billion dollars with EVERY film you dumb fucking journalists.
So is every Ariel actor at their parks going to be black from now on?
>>185459902This is what I’m wondering. Are they going to completely replace red-head Ariel merchandise and everything too? It would be such a waste of an iconic and beloved character design that’s made them many millions if not billions over the years.
Number keeps getting lower every day. This looks like its gonna struggle to break even. Non-starter in China, weak international sales. It needs 400+ million to break even and 500+ to be considered a success when you account for marketing. Good riddance.
>>185459902>>185459963Why would they? The original is a classic, this is soulless slop.
>>185459979With a production budget of 250 million the break even point is at least 500 but could very well be 600, depending on the marketing budget.
>>185460164500 million isn't the break even point, you need to take into account that Disney doesn't get 100% of the price of a ticket800M would be a better starting point
>>185459373doesn't make sense to change the appearance of any of the animals if they are going to be 3D anyway. the whole movie is just one big "remember this?" and i don't know why they keep making the answer "no".
>>185460067Because they’re scum.
>>185459541>i absolutely MUST have a tattoo, just stick a pineapple on me.
>>185444912100 Millions seems like a lot of money
>>185459620there's no point in marriage today since it's so easy to end it. all you do is sign a paper that says she get half your stuff if she breaks up with you or if she cheats on you and you want to break up with her. not even a meme, i see no benefit in marriage today.
>>185452432>We have a ridiculous amount of stuff they sent from giant standees and banners to little dangle logos and stickers stuck everywhere.Ever since I was a kid I wanted the inside scoop to get some cool stuff like this. I need a movie theater gf.
>>185445316>Their live action esg films could, and do, all lose money and they will continue making them.The post-2008 infinite money train ride was over the second the Fed started hiking interest rates. Before this, large investment outfits had privileged access to the printing press, and could throw printed money after bad. They didn't need their investments to make returns as long as interest rates remained low or functionally negative. This was exactly the environment that engendered "ESG/DEI" initiatives; the Finkelsteinbergs of the investment world could pretend that profits were no longer necessary, and they decided to start playing Tikkun Olam activist instead.Then came the fastest interest rate hikes in living memory, which brought a screeching halt to the flow of liquid capital. This meant that in order for kikes to hold onto any shred of power an influence, they would have to start showing a return on their investments--or lose them entirely. Now, couple this with an economic environment in which consumers are strapped for cash and are rabidly political, and you have the perfect storm for an absolute apocalypse of "woke" across every single industry that has fallen into that trap.This is exactly why you're starting to see massive layoffs, closures, selloffs, cancellations, etc. Shareholders are demanding that anything that can't show a decent return on investment be axed. And the troonpocalypse is just getting warmed up. It's going to be a fucking holocaust.
>>185460522It does until you factor in:>250 million production cost>Double it for marketing>Add an additional 20% to be seen as a success>Disney movies notoriously drop off after the first weekAt this point it’s all about Toy Sales, but black Ariel doesn’t have brushable hair, it’s unlikely that’ll save them (think Finn from Star Wars). It’s probably ogre.
>>185460539Get a prenup.Have a kid. Unless you already own a business, building your life together is the most based thing.
today's prime time showing in the biggest cinema in my country's capital lol
watching people with no culture flock to white culture fills my heart with joy. white culture is so beautiful and expansive that every other race wants to be part of it. imagine waking up and your "culture" is basketball and an obsession with shoes made by child slaves instead of inventing everything in the world lmao. can you blame them for wanting in?
>>185460298That's not what I learned from mass comm 100.They said theaters don't get a cent on tickets, only concessions.Source or I'll keep assuming my prof was right
>>185459541>square body>massive garish tattoo of a fucking pineapple>obvious self harm scarsYour taste in women will lead you down a dangerous path, my brother
My local theater. All empty (two people in one showing).
>>185461041Is green empty or full? Tell ur president to leave Ukraine already
>>185461095You pay tens of thousands of dollars just to get bullshitted by a hack, you got hoodwinked.
>>185461163green is empty, and if i had any connections i would!
>>185461095>They said theaters don't get a cent on tickets, only concessions.Sure, I'll bite.https://www.musicgateway.com/blog/filmmaking/how-do-movie-theaters-make-money>Movie theaters receive approximately 40% of each ticket sold.
>>185461095Holy fuck you’re stupid. I don’t know what community college you went to, but yes, theaters take a substantial cut, usually 40-50%. Maybe try a simple jewgle search next time you 80 iq nigger brain. Maybe you can let your ‘professor’ know as well.
>>185461267That said, your professor was half right. Concessions are the bigger profit margin, but ticket sales are a large part of the business.
>>185461241Are you afraid of getting sent there?Your English is quite good.Be honest, how many track suits do you own?
>>185459051No but you are on this topic Budget is 250m. Needs 2.5x - 3x its budget. Studios split the box office with theaters. 600m means the studio made around $300m
>>185461528The economic hurdles for Disney's projects are also much larger than many other studios given the overhead they have. This means that in order to satisfy shareholder requirements/demands, they need a pretty damned high profit margin. This is doubly true now that they have so many projects that are complete and total economic disasters.Retarded leftists can't into economic evaluation.
>>185461095Your professor was an idiot. Where they a diversity hire?
>>185461267And their take grows after opening. The theater gets a bigger cut in week 4 than week 1 and so on. Theaters mad bank off Top Gun
>>185460981you can have a kid and build a life together without a marriage. there's no point in being married.
>>185461754Na, he just didn't care, it was like a 500 person mass class and this was like 18 years ago
We floppin?! We floppin now?!
>>185460933>At this point it’s all about Toy Sales, but black Ariel doesn’t have brushable hairno kid is going to want a toy of this either>>185457444idk if they're even trying to sell those
>>185445013you came to /tv/ to cry about the discussion of a movie?