Any oldfags here? Can you explain why they were so hated when they came out? Other than laughable dialogue and overuse of cgi (really George, do the clone troopers need to be cgi?) they’re pretty tight movies with cool action and memorable characters
>>181951382I remember watching episode 1 as a small child and not understanding anything about it other than that the action scenes were cool. The whole politics thing really didn't belong in a children's movie.
>so hatedNigger laughing at a bad movie isn't hate, stop being a bitch
>>181951382Watch the plinkett reviews.
>>181951382Too much focus on childrenTryed to explain stuff (like the force is bacteria inside of you) that never needed to be explainAlso, George Lucas worked best when he had a team around him that could veto him and told him no, when he got the blankoscheck he had too many ideas that didn't worked together desuDarth Maul vs Obi Wan and Qui Gon was filmed whiles Lucas wasn't even in the country and the stundmen just went wild and you see it
>>181951382People still had standards then
>>181951431Yeah I watched them first as a kid and thought they were cool but now I do kinda enjoy the trade federation shit. I like how George made all the aliens stereotypes I understand.
They were the first movies to really dive into the fully cgi landscapes at that time, it was 1999 when the first one came out. It was incredibly jarring and looked like shit and had jar jar. You can't remember this, but the first jurassic park was the only major movie to do big cgi at that time before that. It was all more subtle, and these movies had full cgi sets that were never seen before. You also can't understand the expectations that were on these movies following up the originals
>>181951382They're deeply retarded.
It made Gen X nerds mad as fuck because it showed that Star Wars has always been for children. When Ep. 1came out I thought it was cool as hell because I was a child and didn't know any better.
I didn't even know they were hated until I found the Plinkett reviews. Loved them as a kid.
>>181951382Cos the og trilogy was really a western in space, lone good guys with mysterious ancient powers chasing baddies in the badlands. No cunt teally wanted ww1 with massed jedi going over the top. Plus the acting was atrocious and the dialoge cheesey af>ani, ani, meesa total annoying cunt>muh high ground
>>181951382>Can you explain why they were so hated when they came out?people were smarter back then
>>181951562Dunno what you’re on about
>>181951382Revisionist history. People were excited Star Wars was back, and it wasn't until fags like "people vs lucas" and rlm came along that this faggot idea that they were massive failures and hated was the thing.
>>181951382I liked 'em cus I was a kid who fell for the marketing.
>>181951382They were only hated by turbo nerds that held Star Wars as some holy grail of culture.
>>181951649The true chosen one.
I liked episode 1, the second one was pretty boring overall and I wasn't that excited about the third one, even watched that in the cinema.The only things I remember fondly now about them are some tracks from the OST and the podracing stuff.Coruscant was also pretty cool but it's never really that flashed out sadly.
>>181951663>b-but everyone loved the prequels before RLM!Wrong. Nice gaslighting, zoomies.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4TX6x2WLgkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lPG1u6EbiYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHOTkSfVb4ohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARfYzbNzxAUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWg0NlRU6-chttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgeOdW3UyP4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDCjIjsZp_Yhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzDIClx-_pYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMYp8pek0zkAlso, this guy had a whole website that shat on TPM before AOTC was even released. It even appeared on Entertainment Weekly.https://www.chefelf.com/starwars/ep1_1-10.phphttps://slate.com/culture/2015/11/phantom-menace-in-newsweek-1999-one-of-my-first-assignments-in-journalism-made-a-top-hollywood-director-hate-me.html
>>181951382>Can you explain why they were so hated when they came out?I hate all of them now, but honestly Episode 1 was probably one of the most anticipated movies of my young adulthood. That might factor into the amount of enjoyment I got out of seeing it opening night with a bunch of friends.I think generally we just didn't like little kid Anakin and obviously Jar Jar Binks was retarded. Other than that from what I remember most people loved Episode 1.
>>181951382kids didn't hate themgrown-ups didand like >>181951530 said, things around it were much better. The Matrix and LotR had been released. Terminator 2, Jurassic Park and Titanic had set new grounds for what the quality of the effects were expected. The competition was high.I enjoyed Episode III when I saw it on the screen. My pals were more lukewarm and I can see that. It's too ambitious. Like the original Star Wars. But the prequel-trilogy was also too political, the plot went over the head of some audiences. And they werenn't polished enough, the effects were not subpar, but you could feel how awkard the dialogue, the clothes, the worlds are.I still think The Revenge of the Sith is a solid 9 and the most enjoyable/entertaining Star Wars movie thanks to the memes and the dialogue ("You're underestimating my power"). It's on the same level as A New Hope and The Empire Strikes Back. And Attack of the Clones has grown on me with time, the romeo/julia plot is so absolute in it's execution that it becomes pure old tragic drama. The Phantom Menace was, is and will always be a kids movie, for children, which is acceptable. I guess adults can appreciate the sound effects of the pod race and the sick costumes for Padme/Sheev.
>>181951382Because they were a little too on-the-nose about what was actually going on in the world.Prequel-Era Republic = 21st century American Republic.
>>181951781>the romeo/julia plot is so absolute in it's execution that it becomes pure old tragic dramaDid you hear that sound? It's every screenwriter in the world whispering a reverent "Fuck" under their breath.
>>181951781>I enjoyed Episode IIIlol
>>181951771This. Most people either look back on them fondly because SW is even more shit now or they are zoomies who don't have a fucking clue anyway.99% of them haven't even seen the original trilogy without the abhorrent later edits from Lucas.
>>1819517817/10 but you lost it mentioning movies that came out after Episode one. Independence Day had special effects that shit all over the prequels.
>>181951892Even if they were mindblowing, if a movie is shit, CGI doesn't save it imo.Same reason I only watched a couple of scenes from Avater and not the second one.I'm just not interested in mediocre garbage that looks "good", I can just keep playing games for that.
>>181951861That's why I prefer the prequels now, because the only way to watch OG Star Wars is by downloading a poor quality torrent.
>>181951562I fucking hated Ep1 as a kid, I remember waiting the entire movie for JarJar to fuck off until I realized he would be shoe horned in there until the end.
>>181951977The Despecialized versions look pretty good even in 720p, definitely better than the VHS, especially because of the sound.
>>181951382watch the Plinkett reviews, he perfectly outlines how bad they are.I dont care about Star Wars but the laziness of the prequels and George being a terrible leader is actually entertaining to see
>>181951382The entire focus and tone was not really what people expected or wanted from new Star Wars, and though there are more legit criticisms about things like some of the acting, pacing, focus, amount of effects, I genuinely think that's responsible for a lot of it. People expected a romp that felt like what they knew. You have to remember how much smaller it was as a franchise then. Sure there were tv cartoons and spinoff books and toys everywhere, but in the eyes and hearts of most of the world, Star Wars was just those three films, and these ones simply didn't feel the same. We're in a weird nostalgia based dystopia now with entitled people screaming about reliving their childhoods and not wanting elements that are new and different, but for all their actual flaws, this was the first big cultural shift into that.
>>181952146Those reviews do not hold up well. They're honestly really bad and make a lot of bizarre points that don't make sense
>>181952173Yup. They were expecting something else and have been whining about it for almost 30 fucking years. The prequels had soul and are a lot mor rewatchable than anything today.
Episode 1 was the best SW out of all the 9 movies and any spinoff.Don't (You) me, I know I'm right.
>>181952136>The Despecialized versionswhy?4k77, 4k80 and 4k83 exist
>>181951965Independence Day is a better film than the prequels.
>>181952176>Those reviews do not hold up well.They do hold up surprisingly well. Especially the ROTS one.
> laughable dialogue and overuse of cgiYeah it's these two my dude.
>>181951382I was 14 in 1999. Episode I was, "okay." It was a serviceable entry. Thing is though, the public whipped itself into a frenzy and expectations were too high. There had been such a gulf between not just films but any Star Wars media that there was no way a merely serviceable entry would satisfy. Episode I had some cool tie-in media though. I played the PC game and Racer for HOURS.
>>181951382Du no, but I went to see the second with some relatives and honestly they found it boring. I think they left upset at the end of the movie, I also seemed a bit tired. I guess that was it. In my opinion the recent trilogy was much better, leaving aside all that bullshit about consistency with the plot and so on.
>>181952176Too much cgi
>>181951382there was just a bunch of unnecessarily retarded decisions made for the films that just seem ridiculous in a vacuumshit like C3P0 and R2D2 being anakin’s droids, where you’re just like ‘jfc really?’
>>181951771>critics>peoplepick one, confused youtube posting fag.
>>181951382Lucas couldn't direct for shit. Shit acting exposed even harder by new digital cameras in number two. Like Kevin Smith directing, locked cameras on some shit acting with dogshit I mean poodoo dialogue. Ep 3 was based because it had cowriters. Supposedly ILM bros directed entire sequences like the opening one shot deal. Overall Lucas revolutionized filmmaking again with digital and green screen shit that enabled Peter Jackson, and they are better than the horrific sequels.Podracing scene and sound were incredible. If Spielberg directed these he would have overhauled a lot of lame shit and they would be better than Return of the Jedi at least
>>181951382Gen X'ers wanted rehashes of the OT. Rebels vs empire, X-wings vs TIE fighters, big scary villain vs. young jedi hero. What they got instead was an involved conspiracy that involved politics and religion, and primary characters who were more complex than those in the OT.The proof of this is how RedLetterMedia found fault with every single aspect of the prequels- even the objectively good stuff like Palpatine's scheming and the primary characters who all have believable motivations and complete arcs- while giving TFA a pass literally because it was a low-effort, plotless rehash of the OT.
>Luke watch out for that vicious bounty hunter Boba Fett. Did I ever tell you l fought his dad? He was hired to assassinate a senator me and your father were guarding. We kept bringing her around open windows and public areas in order to draw the would-be assassin out because we knew he had too much pride to just shoot her from long range. He had used his payment to hire another bounty hunter to kill the senator for him while he sent us on a wild bantha chase. Also the 2nd assassin used her payment to buy a robot to assassinate the senator for her. Did I mention the 2nd assassin was a shapeshifter? She could have been a good friend in disguise and just shot the senator for all we knew! Then the robot used its payment to buy poisonous bugs to release into the senators room while she slept after lasering a hole through the window. It could have just lasered her too after that because we we weren't watching her at all but it already bought the bugs. So we sense the hostile life forms not the robot in the room and rush in and save the senator in the nick of time! Then I jumped out the window to chase the robot back to its owner! Luckily it didn't have a self destruct function. Then we found the 2nd assassin and chased her across the planet and caught her when she tried to kill us instead of shapeshifting and escaping. But to our surprise Jango Fett was watching the whole thing instead of going to kill the senator while we were away chasing the bugs chasing the robot chasing the shapeshifter. He shot her with a poisonous dart instead of sniper blaster and only her instead of shooting all of us or blowing all of us with a rocket or something then he escaped with his tiny jetpack. Luckily for the senator my good friend Dexterr Jettster owned a 50s dinner on Courscant that had Republic secrets on the menu along with cheeseburgers and malt shakes. We found the assassin and Mace Window killed him later right in front of Boba. And he was a good friend.
>>181951431I watched them as a child and understood everything about it. Bad guys are invading good guy planet, they need to go get help to fight back against bad guys but when they get there, they need to talk about it and it's going to take too long, so they go back to fight it out. There was nothing complicated about the politics. You were just an idiot child that should have stuck with sesame street.
>>181951562>It made Gen X nerds mad as fuck because it showed that Star Wars has always been for childrenNope. Return of the Jedi made us mad because the ewoks showed us these movie were now for childrenI was in my 30s when the prequels came out and enjoyed them for what they were
>>181951382I think I was like 18 when phantom menace came out. I enjoyed it, I didn't think it was as good as the original but still fun. the more hardcore Star Wars fans didn't like JarJar or little Anakin. they thought it was too kiddie. fucking Ewoks hello.I think a lot of fans expected EU seriousness and got Star Wars family movie. my only grips with the prequels is I think script needed to be cleaned up, a lot of the dialogue can be clunky and stilted, especially the romance. I wish Lucas would have focused more on the Clone Wars but I guess that wasn't the point. I never really read much of the EU but I think fans expected EU and got Star Wars instead.
>>181952309You're right, haven't found them yet on the Usenet though sadly. Do you know how I can access a group directly without an indexer?
>>181951382Episodes 2 and 3 were not hated, people thought episode 2 was meh and episode 3 was super rushed. I personally did not hate episode 1, but I think the older fellows were justified in being offended by the kiddy tone of episode 1 after George received plenty of criticism for the awkward tone shift in episode 6. No matter how much people want to parrot the "for children" line, it is undeniable that episode 6 was a leap in a different direction tonally from 4 and 5 (obviously ignoring the throne room scenes). Anyway, just imagine your favorite movie or video game series finally gets a sequel after 20 years and they double down on the worst aspect unapologetically, and on top of that it's a prequel designed to spoil your favorite characters retroactively.
>>181954017They are available on the public torrent trackers.
>>181951382It was extremely weird, in a bad way. Badly paced, badly written, badly acted, special effects were really cool, it had an annoying little boy who couldn't act as a main character.
>>181954065Yeah I haven't used torrents in almost 15 years, I'm too lazy to read into the whole VPN stuff.
>>181954100Huh? Why would you need a VPN? Nigga, just torrent them. I doubt these fan editions are copyrighted.
>>181951677>They were only hated by turbo nerds that held Star Wars as some holy grail of culture.Because nobody else cared about Star Wars.
>>181951382Redlettermedia fanboys and Disney shills spread the le prequels are bad meme. They completely rewrote the narrative and convinced pop culture that everyone hated the prequels. Truth is the prequels were warmly received by fans at the time of release. That's why dedicated prequel memes were posted so often in this board before the sequels came out
>>181951382I'm 32 and I thought these were kino. I watched III in theaters multiple times.
>>181954121I'm in Germany, they're pretty overzealous regarding copyright. They are definitely copyrighted, that kind of stuff doesn't fall under fair use either in the US or in Germany.
>>181954152>They completely rewrote the narrative and convinced pop culture that everyone hated the prequels. Truth is the prequels were warmly received by fans at the time of release.See:>>181951771>>181951801>That's why dedicated prequel memes were posted so often in this board before the sequels came outThe memes were ironic and everyone knew and always pointed out how bad the movies were. But then the actual idiots came along and thought there was no irony.Hello there XDDD I AM LE SENATE :DDD
>>181954121>>181954189lol nvm, somehow I managed to forget to search for these on my main indexer back when I was looking for them
>>181953883>Nope. Return of the Jedi made us mad because the ewoks showed us these movie were now for childrenLuke, did I ever tell you about the "kids movie, Return of the Jedi? The "cute" Ewoks were literally going to have a cannibal barbecue to cook everyone, and do Force knows what to R2. Then the whole battle scene where they are getting blastedand dying, and one even gets shot out of the sky, and possibly gets stepped on by a scout walker. And the whole beginning where:the slave girl is fed to a monster, then it eats a pig guard while the audience gets to watch, then Luke drops a gate on it's head while the audience watches and hears it's death rattle on screen.Then the whole Sarlacc battle, where people are getting blastered, sabered, and tossed into a pit where we established they are going to be digested for a thousand years. Oh, and did I mention watching Jabba getting choked out in all it's glory?Oh, and I nearly forget the whole droid torture scene, after we set up two movies showing they could think, feel, and all that. And we totally imply that R2 and 3P0 might get tortured by that sadistic droid, and show several droid getting tortured in screen (good thing we didn't have PG-13 yet, right?).Then there's Luke getting electrocuted, while screaming in agony, then watching vader getting friend (with full on skull seen though the suit).But Lucas made RoTJ "for kids"...and he was a good friend.
>>181951382They completely shat on all the worldbuilding done in the originals. Nothing makes sense in the prequals.C3PO is a royal interpreter, that's why he's gold and fancy and doesn't fit in on Tattooine. Now he was built by a slave boy on Tattooine. It's all retarded.The rough outline of the story of Anakin is ok but the movies are some of the dumbest shit ever made. There's almost nothing redeeming about them but somehow they're still better than the Disney movies.
Soulless, heartless, sterile, stilted movies. It's like they were made by a machine. There is no pacing, no rhythm, everything is so one note and simplistic: from composition to camera work. Lighting is flat, the movie lacks texture and weight.Prequels are not real movies. It's shocking watching a real movie, say, LOTR trilogy, and then going back to the prequels. It's amazing how the two came out on the same years, yet differ so much in quality.
>>181951771Wait it was 16 years between episodes 6 and 1?
>>181954365Yes. Return of the Jedi was 1983. The Phantom Menace was 1999.1999 - 1983 = 16
>>181954442Bloody hell, I never realized there was such a gap, maybe I would have if I had actually seen the prequels instead of just playing the lego videogame, I really should watch them at some point, no way i'm watching the sequel series though
>>181954507>I really should watch them at some pointYou really shouldn't, they are terrible.
>>181953793If you actually watched the fucking movie, you'd realize the plot doesn't make any sense even as an adult.
Honestly 2 out of 3 feel perfectly fine
>>181951382People forget this because it’s such an obvious flaw, but Jar Jar Binks was the most cringe character in almost all of cinema. George Lucas is a complete retard
>>181951431one thing i never understood is that lucas intended for people to see the prequels first but the movie is written as if you already know a lot of the characters
>>181953793Especially considering we had multiple Star Trek series airing at the time. Deep Space Nine was densely political in its last couple seasons.
>>181951382The 16 year gap between ROTJ and TPM gave everyone a lot of time to imagine for themselves what the era of Jedi and the rise of the Empire was like and expected something similar in tone to the vidya/books of the era and got a cartoon instead.
they weren't hated, kids enjoyed the first one, the second one had some cringe stuff but people enjoyed the clone stuff and I remember everyone liking ep 3. It's because of faggots like >>181951479 who molded their entire personality and taste around fat turd and bearded autist from youtube that this imbecilic reddit consensus was formed.
>>181951504>Darth Maul vs Obi Wan and Qui Gon was filmed whiles Lucas wasn't even in the country and the stundmen just went wild and you see itwait, the only good part in the movie was made without Lucas in the room? yikes!
>>181956244Star Trek was always a show for 20 year old nerds, though. Star Wars is essentially an expensive toy commercial. It's the movie equivalent of He-Man or Transformers, yet Lucas decided to make the plot revolve around a trade embargo and muh senate, along with Jar-Jar feces fun, lust provoking Padme and child slaughter. Who the fuck was the target audience of these movies?
>>181955979alot of zooms say he wasnt that badbut no, he really was that fucking bad. a literal unironic cgi clown character just plastered front and center all over the movie meant to breathe new life into the most famous movie series of all time.I dont care about ‘oh star wars nerds overreacted and made the actor suicidal’ or whatever bullshit.like im fine with the character now, mainly because i just accept the entire prequel trilogy as one giga-autists giant shitpost. but the character is literally specialized edition level of jarring
>>181951382I feel like 3 gets the most hate. Ep1 was hailed by fandom at the time. Things started downhill in 2.
>>181951382People wanted the OT again and got upset when their kids fairytale movies were made using a cinematic language aimed at kids>>181951504>had a team around him that could veto him and told him noBullshit YouTube revisionist meme, literally never happened
>>181956822You're just saying random bullshit based on nothing. 1 is most hated, 2 is the worst, 3 was the only one where anything happened and people tend to say it's the best one.
>>181955852Name one flaw with the plotYou can't, there are none
>why were these so hated, other than [minimization of the reasons they were hated]
>>181956668>Star Trek was always a show for 20 year old nerdsFuck off with that shit. I loved Trek as a 7 year old.
Boba Fett and Obi Wan were both as bad if not worse than the prequels
Honestly? The Prequels have always been fine. I know they have endless amounts of silly moments, but they're still a positive experience.
>>181951382>bait threadAre you people unironically this young here or do you really not understand the language of cinema to the point of asking this very obvious question?
>>181951663This is literally factually incorrect.
>>181957241Lol no they aren't retard
>Brevity is the soul of witThe character from Hamlet who said this was made to be stupid and pompous, because he was a main villain. It really mirrors RedLetterMedia, since they couldn't be bothered to learn that. (or perhaps it was intended to be a self-mocking sarcastic joke?)
>>181957076>Sideous tried to have Padme killed in AotC so when Anakin finds out Sheev is the secret sith lord, at no point does he put 2+2 together that he was the one who had her assassinated, which would be a basic fucking conclusion you'd make if your entire "fall to the dark side" revolves around your wife There's one, want me to go on?
>>181957432*tried to have her assassinated
Anybody have publications that mention intrusive thoughts from 1900-1980 or where to look for them? Or sources that mention the specific publication instead of generally referring to an author saying something about it.Also mentions of intrusive images are preferred The earliest I found with a quick search was from 1978.
>>181957322He knows. It's weak bait.
>>181957494What in the fuck are you babbling about?
>>181957432He's already seen a vision of her dying in childbirth though
>>181951382>other than all the bad things about it, why didn't you like it?
>>181957519It's a bot. Something itt has set it off.
>>181957519>>181957580just wondering how jedis control their thoughts
One of the lamest things about the Prequels is that it has tons of hammy unnecessary memberberry moments that people have accepted over time (Anakin being born in the same place as Luke, Anakin built C3PO, every clone trooper is related to Boba Fett, Yoda meeting Chewie, etc)
>>181957532...and that addresses what I said, how?
>>181957616They don't, in both the originals and the prequals the thoughts and dreams of the heroes are controlled by the Sith.The attempt to escape attachment leaves them like leaves blowing in the wind and anyone with strong lungs can blow them where he likes.Promoting this in cinema form as enlightenment leaves the mind of the audience open to demonic influence. It's all part of the ritualistic demonic warfare against your eternal soul.
Crushing disappointment from 20 years of lead-up and hype
>>181958123i thought the jedis were just hippies against the technology
>>1819570761. Why is Shmi Skywalker, the galaxies equivalent of Mother Mary, left behind as a slave to eventually be raped by Tusken raiders? 2. What the literal fuck is Nute Gunray trying to achieve at any point in the movies? 3. What in the ever living fuck is the point of the clone wars if Palpatine was playing both sides from the beginning anyways? Why even set up Dooku as a puppet to then betray him? 4. Why does Mace Windu's wizard lightning turn Palpatine into a frog? 5. Why does Amidala need to sign a document to 'legalize the occupation'? Imagine if Hitler made the president of france sign a document to legalize the invasion of France during WWII. Who would take that seriously? "Oh, really, Amidala signed a letter with a gun pointed at her head? Guess that legitimizes a planet trading hands."
>>181951481Plinkett reviews are pedantic trash. That’s ignoring the cringe ‘humor’ >Muh midichlrians ruined it It’s really just not a good script or plot. Lucas said himself he did too much The sequels do too little. They all suck
>>181958426Caring about the woman you love or wanting to have children is the path to the dark side. Any attachment to anything leads to worldly temptations that will make your own power corrupt you. This is because all power corrupts so you dirty plebs shouldn't get any ideas about wanting to have any.
>>181958532>Muh midichlrians ruined ityes.
>oh btw darth vaders dad is an archangel>let us never mention that again>also the force is made of nanobots because i am euphoric from my own intelligence and gods isn't real and i meant robo-archangel
>>181951382It was literally a bunch of fanboys reeing as loud as they could. They had average reviews and millions of people watched them consistently in theatres. The online discourse was taken over by people who chose to ignore reality and push their own opinion as fact.
>>181958737Because they made money film making since then has been ruined.
>>181952328Nah. And the RotS is the worst since he has the least to work with so has to make the broadest least supported statements - “nobody likes these characters;” “nobody will remember Dexter Jettster and his 50s cafe” - and then just blanket says it has bad editing since it shows when super powered knights who fight with swords lose those swords then gives no other examples. Remember that it was appealing to the Plinkett crowd that made TFA the way it was
>>181951382>Can you explain why they were so hated when they came out?They weren't. It was AstroTurf. Hollywood freaks lost out on billions lowballing Lucas after A New Hope and bore that grudge for decades. The the sheer amount of green screen and CGI, and being the leading edge for the tech at the time, it was a hell of a spectacle. It was always popcorn movie material, even with then older fag boomers and Gen X that didn't like it as much. It was as impactful for Gen Y as the OT was for them.
>>181958737>this cope again Lol people hated TPM a week after it was released, broccoli headed faggot.
>>181959076IQ drop of the west in a nutshell.
>>181959341They hated it so much they went to AotC and RotS too.Let me guess though you're gonna give me the RLM cope>people only watched them out of obligation!you fucking delusional people living in your bubble.
>>181951382watch the RLM reviews
>>181951382>hatedthe old movies were not hatedthey were considered cringewhich is very different
>>181951481>watch the [insert famous and wise reviewer here] reviews.
>>181955852>oversized company exploits far away territory with oppressive taxes, eventually becomes powerful enough to field their own armies and navies and implements a blockade while trying to pressure the locals into accepting itEver heard of the East India Company?
>>181959453>muh RLMlol Jesus how old are you? AotC didn't perform as well as TPM and it didn't have the same marketing budget because of the almost immediate backlash, for fucks sake Attack nearly killed the prequels.
>>181959553Of course he hasn’t
>>181951382They’re boring as fuck
>>181959584>AotC didn't perform as well as TPMkek I bet your the same kind of idiot who doom posts about Marvel movies because the Black Panther 2 only made 500 million instead of 800 million like the first.
>>181951562Yeah sure, TPM did that. Not ROTJ with the fucking army of teddy bears.
>>181959707>no response Did you just look up how the media reaction to TPM was abysmal and now feel foolish arguing that still?
>>181958445>1. Why is Shmi Skywalker, the galaxies equivalent of Mother Mary, left behind as a slave to eventually be raped by Tusken raiders?Imagine she is freed. Do the Jedi go back and buy her for the express purpose of freeing her? They have now just engaged in the slave trade.Also why free just one slave, why not all of them? It would be a huge scandal if it got out on the holonet. Now the Jedi/Republic have a mandate to free slaves all around the galaxy even where they don't have jurisdiction. Do they do this with military means or do they do this with financial means? What if buying slaves to free them just encourages slave traders to always get new slaves for this now booming market?
>>181954442'Member when journos tried to push this fine nigga to suicide?
>>181959796See now you are just outlining the disconnect between what the Jedi are in the prequels, versus what their code of ethics SHOULD be based on the original trilogy: a Jedi should be anti slavery in any and all capacity, regardless.
the only thing people talked about TPM was the pod race
>>181959783I want you to try using your brain for once, the internet fanboys, the media, whomever can say the prequels were disliked by the majority but the numbers do not lie. People went to see them consistently. Now would they be doing that if everyone hated them?
>>181951382Imagine the biggest franchise of all time having 20 years with no movies. Everyone had their hopes about what the movies would be.
>>181955934But then he saw the script for TFA and went "sure, I'd love to be a part of that!"What a faggot.
>>181958445>What the literal fuck is Nute Gunray trying to achieve at any point in the movies?Expose the weakness of the Republic and their humancentrism. Ulitimate goal is a fractured galaxy where he leads the xeno half. >3. What in the ever living fuck is the point of the clone wars if Palpatine was playing both sides from the beginning anyways? Get a human dominated army and crush the powerful xeno led corporations. >Why set up Dooku as a puppet to betray himDooku was genuinely disillusioned with the Jedi and the Republic. He was a useful idiot to act as a human face and point of contact for the xenos>5. Why does Amidala need to sign a document to 'legalize the occupation'? She is the head of government and her signature on a formal surrender gives the Trade Federation much more bargaining power
>>181959924Yeah retard, people went to see the first new star wars movie in over a decade. It was the hype that carried the film. If you look at TPM's performance, after opening weekend it was just diminished returns. I know you are either baiting or too young but across the fucking board, all over the planet, the film was panned as early as the following weekend it was initially out. You can't just memoryhole an entire cultural event because of this weird cope you do with a movie you saw in a diaper.
>>181960010You are just reciting the plot.
>>181957683The Chosen One shit also falls into that category. It's stupid as hell but I think a lot of people have forgotten how stupid it is.
>>181959903>what their code of ethics SHOULD be based on the original trilogyLet's say the prequles never were made. Are we supposed to take Obi-Wan and Yoda at their face value that the Jedi were pure nobelbright warriors? The way I view it is how modern US soldiers view themselves as the "good guys" when describing themselves. Meanwhile the day to day machinations of the US military are a lot more morally gray especially when achieving US foreign policy.
>>181960105>Let's say the prequles never were made. Are we supposed to take Obi-Wan and Yoda at their face value that the Jedi were pure nobelbright warriors?Yes because it's a fucking morality play based on King Arthur and not The West Wing.
>>181960126George grew up, and Star Wars did as well. I'm sorry you expected to be a manchild for your entire life. This explains the "GEORGE RAPED MY CHILDHOOD!" posts that were all the rage back in the day.
>>181960105Obi Wan paints a picture of feudal knights. Darth Vader under Tarkin acts like a feudal knight. That was a much more interesting world to imagine than what was shown.
>>181960172See you prequel zoomers don't actually understand what Star Wars was about and neither did George after Empire.
>>181960172>the prequels >for "grown ups"fucking kek stop posting
>>181960020>Yeah retard, people went to see the first new star wars movie in over a decade. It was the hype that carried the filmYou can make that excuse for TPM but not the rest. I know its seems impossible but people can like things you don't and in fact they did, no matter how much screeching fanboys want us to believe its not true.
The Force is very bothering in Episode II and III.>OT SW: Darth Vader says the Force is better than destroying planets. Luke has visions and foresight when meeting Yoda>PT SW: The thousands of Jedi never detect anything wrong with the clone troopers or Palpatine. Also they get genocided in 1 day.Wtf?
>>181960324>the only scores that matter are from a single website Buddy, most of these are very middling responses at best...
>>181958445Jesus christ how did so much of the movie go over your head
>>181960324>deeply flawed and inept >B grade lol zoomer did you even look at these?
>>181960227>I understand the creator's work better than the creatorpeak /tv/
>>181960426And that's not what I said, I said George clearly didn't understand why people loved the original film and him trying to ground his space fantasy about space King Arthur was tone deaf to what the original film's themes were.
>>181951382>Midi-chlorians or the answer to a question no one asked.>Terrible plot.>Terrible dialogues.>Terrible romance.Little did we know that the sequels will make the Holiday Special to look good.
>>181960357>>181960383You're missing the point, the average were just that, average, it had so high praise, some high critcism but mostly people just said they were average. They weren't the despised films you people have been brainwashed into believing they are.
>>181960324>it isn't the best in the series>flawed>decide for yourself>flawedEven back then, people knew.
>>181960353They were clouded by palpatine you literal retard
>TPMJar Jar Banks and Anakin as a little kid were the main complaints.No one knew who the main character was supposed to be and there was lots of world-building and space politics while people wanted ANH but with Anakin instead of Luke.>AotCPeople got mad that Anakin acted like a cringey teenager instead of an alpha space Chad. They were also mad that the clone wars weren't whatever they had in their heads.(Kids enjoyed this film a lot more though. Kids liked Podracing and Qui-Gon/Obi-Wan in ep1 while finding Jar Jar cringe. But kids in general liked all of AotC)>RotSNo one had an issue with this film except RLM. It was universally loved by audiences when it released.Also worth mentioning that no one disliked any of the films enough to affect the rest of the franchise
>>181960467>brainwashed I'm convinced you have to be like 15 or some shit since you clearly weren't alive for the post-Phantom shitstorm of everyone and their mother making fun of Jar Jar. I don't know why you have to spin your own headcanon reality around a film that was universally criticized from multiple different fucking countries, with people itt who were alive during that, telling you it happened.
>>181960509>RotS was universally loved no it wasn't.
>>181960516I can't imagine being enshrouded in delusion that when presented with evidence that reviews were mostly average and that people consistently went to see them in theaters, that you can still convince yourself everyone always hated them, thought they were were the worst thing ever, and nobody ever liked them.
>>181960509IMO Phantom Menace is actually a fine film, outside of the plotholes and bizarre logic it has. I never had a problem with Jar Jar and kid Anakin existing.
>>181960632Posting average reviews that don't even praise the film from a handful of critics doesn't offset the entire culture zeitgeist that evolved around making fun of these films, that you clearly weren't alive for. Literally just use the waybackmachine and stop posting retarded cope shit you complete retard.
>>181960665People make fun of the Star Wars sequel trilogy but I wouldn't stupid enough to say nobody liked them or that they weren't popular. Jesus do understand how retarded you sound saying what you just said>some people made fun of them that means everyone diddo the world a favor and break the family tradition and don't impregnate your sister, thats the only explanation I have for you saying something so stupid.
>>181960818You have to be baiting me, because the prequels created basically an entire subgenre of online criticism, it was its own beast that took the media by storm and basically paved the way for the online critique bubble that exists now. You really weren't alive for it, huh?
>>181960934>some fat nerds online made youtube videos therefore everyone always hated them!seriously how inbred are you?
>>181951781>Attack of the Clones has grown on me with timeMy favorite one. I dislike the whole romantic subplot with Anakin and Padme, but accept it has to be told for the overarching story, but Obi-Wan's detective adventure more than makes up for it.Plus there's a lot of Coruscant exposition.
>>181961001It came out before YouTube you fucking zoomer.
>>181961029>not realizing the point the other anon is makingWow, inbred AND autistic. Your life must be pretty difficult
>>181961050Yes blah blah blah we all are just not getting the points blah blah something about RLM blah blah blah prequels are secretly genius blah blah.
>>181951382>they’re pretty tight moviesIncorrect - they are the very opposite of tight - all the dialog and exposition is way too loose - it would need to be compacted to make it more tight and the politics need to be conveyed by charismatic characters instead of the monotone boring way the movies do it.>with cool action and memorable charactersThe glowstick waving contests masquerading as lightsaber fights were never cool action, even in the 90s they looked as hokey and ridiculous as they do now.>Other than laughable dialogue and overuse of cgiWhy other than that? Those are massive - shit dialogue is a deal breaker for anything. But since you failed to mention it: JAR JAR. He was jarring, he has no charm, he generated x-pac heat. Potty humor is a pet peeve of many a people. Leftoids also found him racist and rightoids were annoyed by the introduction of a Jamaican knock off chara into Star Wars. So one side hates him for ridiculing nignogs the other side hates him for representing nignogs. It's a lose lose situation.
>>181958445>Imagine if Hitler made the president of france sign a document to legalize the invasion of France during WWIIYou've clearly never heard of Vichy France.
>>181961257Do you mean the puppet government not recognized by literally anyone in Europe outside of the Axis powers?
>>181954567Nah, they're decent.
>>181960467Now do TLJ's professional reviews.
>>181956787>alot of zooms say he wasnt that badThey have no perspective; their entire culture is cringe.
>>181960467>They weren't the despised films you people have been brainwashed into believing they are.This kind of shit was so prominent online that the message board I'm posting a sample of had to essentially ban prequel bash posts, and even posts positive about TPM and AOTC frequently allude to the broader negativity in hushed tones like beaten wives.
>>181961745This one is too perfect not to post.
One thing I'll always think is funnier than PTfags trying to defend the prequels are the OTfags that irrationally seethe at a PTfag's existence.
>>181961796>le same >irrational Cope.
>>181961850Thank you for being a perfect example.
>>181961863>heh you are an example of the thing I'm coping about Except the prequels do in fact suck and nobody is "seething" about it, faggot.
>>181951382Its all jar jars fault
>>181961796this, it's embarrassing
>>181961945Don't "there you go" me you fucking retard, your nonsense point only makes sense if "OTfags" are in fact "seething" when it's literally always been mockery because the films suck.
>>181962032Keep digging that hole, fella.
>>181962060Keep coping because your sunk cost autism prevents you from joining the real world.
>>181951382I don't understand how anybody can like these unironically. I mean I watched them as a kid and for some reason they're always on cable when I visit my parents for the holidays so they make good background noise while knocking back eggnog, but actively choosing to watch movies like this with wooden characters and ridiculous plots? Baffling.
>>181957407You've never read or seen Hamlet. The irony behind the line isn't that it isn't true, it's that Polonius is actually a tedious windbag.
>>181951431I remember watching the alot as a kid. I didn't pay attention to the politics that much and really cared about the action. But but like all 3 movies were so much fun to me (still are)
>>181961745>>181961779Yes there were people who did not like them and they took to the internet to spam their opinion. This doesn't mean they were universally hated, its not a hard thing to understand. Some people liked them, some people hated them, most people thought they were average.
>>181962103Don't you see anon, I watched this 5 hour long video on YouTube about how basically it's a Greek tragedy and based and Ring Theory and reddit memes make me go heehee
>>181962103Nobody with a brain likes them.
>>181962150>>181962151Replies in bad faith.
>>181960056Oh look at that. The movie explains the conflict
>>181962135Why does it bother you that the prequels are universally hated?
>>181962198You reciting the script doesn't just magically MAKE the plot coherent.
The number one thing you need to remember about the time period is the years involved. 1999-2005 in particular. You had WW2 film after WW2 film and show that were also shoehorning in the absurd evil of the Nazis and the Holocaust with in your face suffering. All these movies and shows were receiving award after award, so the midwits of the time thought that the PT was bad for not showing the suffering of the people of Naboo. They thought the PT was bad for not having clearly defined pure good guys and ontologically evil bad guys. The number one criticisms were that you couldn't just "turn your brain off" and enjoy a story of good vs evil. It's alot easier to watch movies about an evil empire instead of a dysfunctional republic. The failure of the Iraq war and the duping of the American public has fully vindicated George Lucas, but an entire generation of Americans will never be able to admit that they were goys with a simple minded view of the world.
>>181962135In the grand scheme it's true; most people didn't care that much either way. But that also applies to TFA and even TLJ (looking at TLJ's reviews would give you an even more skewed perspective). That's not really what people are talking about.
The second one is where people really started to sour on them.
>>181962252>They thought the PT was bad for not having clearly defined pure good guys and ontologically evil bad guys.You're an idiot.
>>181960010Shit that's explained in an anime or a comic book doesn't count, anon
>>181962252>They thought the PT was bad for not having clearly defined pure good guys and ontologically evil bad guys.They literally did. The good guys were Jedi, Padme, Bail Organa.Bad guys were Palpatine, DARTH TEAR ANUS, DARTH MAUL, GENERAL GRIEVANCE, ADMIRAL BONE-TO-PICK, COMMANDER NEFARIOUS.Prequelfags are such fucking pseuds, it's unreal.
>>181962346The only criticisms I can actually acknowledge of TPM are Jake Lloyd and Jar-Jar binks. Everything else is just butthurt boomers and Gen Xers upset that their head canon was wrong. >Midichlorians? But the force is MAGIC!There is clearly a genetic link if it presents itself in entire families
>>181962252>another /pol/tard mad that the Nazis are portrayed as bad, because they were actually bad lol your Reich lasted 8 years faggot.
>>181962392No no no no ni the black clothing and red lightsabers represent moral ambiguity!! That's what Dark Insidious really means!
>>181962252Imagine if the prequels were an actual honest-to-god morally grey conflict that commented of the so-called "end of history" of the 1990s. Remind me, who is Palpatine's rise based off of, anon?
>>181962429Give them credit, it lasted nearly 12!
>>181962429At least we're not speaking German!
>and let's never speak of this againMaybe there was never a need to run fast again.
>>181951555This.My first thought, as a 9-year-old watching Episode 1, was "why's that ship so shiny? Star Wars ships are meant to be dirty and look used!". Scene one after the intro reel.
>>181962536I imagine if you watched a period piece of the Roman Empire, you would bitch about how all the buildings aren't destroyed and crumbling.
>>181962498We're degenerates discussing children's movies on a mongolian basket weaving site. You may not like blacks and trannies but be honest with yourself, we'd have all been rounded up and shot as "untermenschen" at some point too.
MASTER KENOBI WATCH OUT! IT'S GENERAL GRIEVANCE!
>>181962610>we'd have all been rounded up and shot as "untermenschen" at some point too.Ahh... I see you too had the history teacher who told the entire class "everyone who wasn't blonde haired blue eyed would have been killed!"
>>181962602This is what the Pyramids apparently looked like in Ancient Egypt. Now imagine if they looked like they were made of a solid piece of plasticine rendered on a PS1 instead.
>>181962424All of the villains are cartoonishly evil. The one quasi-exception is Dooku, and that's only because aside from Lee's dignified attitude the character is barely anything. He's still an obvious dirt bag. Darth Maul is a red and black murder machine that doesn't do anything for the entire film but try to kill people. Palpatine -- Or should I say, Dark Villain Man! -- is depicted for the entire trilogy as nothing less than satanic. There is not a single scene where he isn't manipulating, scheming, or murdering for his own acquisition of power, and the movie never tries to slant the audience's perspective otherwise. Everything is very clearly defined.
>>181962671Yes, because being a brown haired mutt is what I'm talking about, not being neets who contribute nothing to a regimented, militaristic society. Though on second thought, autists would probably flourish under that kind of structure. Sorry we took that chance from you, anon.
>>181951382It sucked and fuck all soiwars fans and nostalgiafags
>>181962671They literally killed the retarded, homosexual, homeless, "undesirable", genetically "inferior", Jewish...thousands of Germans. They wrote entire fucking laws about it.
>>181951481Plinkett reviews resulted in the ST
>>181962856Imagine believing this
>>181951382There was just disappointment all over, and LotR coming out at the same time and stealing the trilogy thunder.I saw AotC three times in theaters. RotS twice. TPM once.
>>181951382>why were they do hated when they came out?Depends on age group and where you're from. I was 6 years old when it came out and all my mates thought it was sick. We all fought over who was Darth Maul at school and who was allowed to fight with the really long stick. Amerimutt nerds who were old already are not the target audience and they wanted the sequel trilogy anyway so fuck em.
>yep, this unadulterated goyslop, digital vomit, visual diarrhea is ackchyually certified soulful kino
>>181962135Nobody ever said they were universally hated by everybody. You are fighting against strawmen that you created in your mind because of some persecution complex induced in you by liking the prequels and watching those meme reviews get attention and approval.
>>181953793Kids understand the movie perfectly. They relate primarily with jar jar, padme and anakin, in that order. We see the queen is sad, and the adults keep giving her bad news (like adults always do), and she can't get anyone to help her for bullshit reasons (the more the useless politicians prattle on the more tired the kids get, and the effect is thus they understand the plot).Anakin is similarly being treated poorly and he does some sneaky things on the side like any good kid. Etc etc The politics are perfectly understandable for kids, and they don't need to understand the greater plot to take part in the movie. Truly a master craft from lucas
>>181951382Plot sucked, CGI was stupid and overused, dialogue was pure, 100% cringe. All flaws that easily go unnoticed by a child, but as one gets older they become more and more apparent. The final duel at the end of Phantom Menace was pretty badass though, despite some derpy choreography. However, despite the jankiness and retarded Lucas-isms that plague the prequels they still have SOVL, unlike the Jizzney retcon trash.
>>181963142The prequels are also retcon trash.
>>181963127>They relate primarily with jar jarMaybe if you have downs syndrome. Nobody could stand Jar Jar. Kids identified with Han and Luke, they thought they were cool, and they wanted to be them. Nobody identified with Jar Jar. Nobody wanted to be him. He was cringe, unfunny, overbearing. Everyone wanted him dead. He sucked. As did the rest of the movie and everything about it.
>>181963032Correct. Its a great movie. You haven't posted a single argument yet.
>Correct. Its a great movie. You haven't posted a single argument yet.
>>181963224Nah kids definitely did you dumboHe was fun. He had a ton of merch and it sold really well.
>>181963032Wait, which is it. Are the prequels soulless goyslop or are they chud wish fulfilment? I'm actually confused at this point.
>>181962856yeah Bob Iger saw them and thought "I need to fix this"
>181963289You're such a despicable faggot, of course you can't appreciate genuine quality. Go back to fellating your fotm goyslop nigger
>>181962952the fuck was Lucas smoking?
>>181963223Oh nooo my precious headcanon
>>181963071Would you agree that the majority of people didn't hate the prequels?
Early 2000s cgi made for some kino action movies
>>181963305>He was fun. He had a ton of merch and it sold really well.Right, nigger. Take your pills.
>181963289>You're such a despicable faggot, of course you can't appreciate genuine quality.>Go back to fellating your fotm goyslop nigger
>>181963444I don't think that's fair to say desu, and if they weren't called star wars they would have been forgotten about the day after the third debuted, well, for those that didn't give up after the second movie. Attack of the clones was embarrassing
>>181963486Why is it that the cartoon rabbit alien evokes such revulsion from overly serious fagboys like you? Is it because he exposed this thing you have latched on to as being "childish" and "puerile"? The literal kike in the ointment you must destroy? Its fucking pathological with you.you should just accept the movies for what they are. You might even enjoy them.
>>181963406You could say the same for people butthurt over the sequels.
>>181963595Why are you so desperate for approval of these films?
>>181963305>He had a ton of merch and it sold really well.It infamously didn't, actually.
>>181963595Sorry, I don't watch goyslop trash for downies.Watch real cinema, you pathetic manchild. Grow up. Acquire taste. Also, learn English, you pathetic, worthless ESL subhuman.
>>181963548You're implying they would've gotten a case of avatar syndrome. But they are still very evocative movies and endlessly debated. Qui gon is interesting to talk about, anakin is interesting to talk about. Even guys like yoda and mace are made into interesting, divisive characters in the prequels. Even obiwan is given actual character depth and flaws to be analyzed and discussed. They are endlessly more interesting than even the OT, who has stopped generating any sort of debate. Those movies are solved, and basically any movie made after 2010 has zero depth to it and no one cares for it. Its the same with tv series. They are consumed and then forgotten. But prequels threads still reach bump limit every day on here. If that's not the argument for a well made work of art I don't know what is.
>>181963032It's a live action cartoon
>>181963729What astronomically stupid bait.
>>181963715This anger comes from some place. The movies themselves are insulting to you, to such a degree that you've nurtured a seething rage over several decades of time. That is a pathetic type of rage. You should be ashamed.
>>181963729>t. Rian Johnson
>>181963788Not anger, but rather annoyance comes from the fact that low IQ mongoloids, such as yourself, have grown up and gained access to the Internet, and now I have to tolerate your terrible taste and braindead posts over and over again.
>>181963614Those movies are just not very interesting. Not well shot, editing is always a beat too slow or too fast, with poor continuity between shots and poor compositions. The music is also dull, and lifeless, and there's no new sound effects (they fired Ben burtt remember). So the entire experience is just boring, empty etc. Even a deaf person can appreciate prequels tho, the shots are good. There are very nice color palettes being used. Good color theory.
>>181963886Why didn't he swing at Sheev's feet while he was needlessly flipping?
>>181963886Nah. Jar jar made you angry. And watching those movies created a wound inside you that has festered since that time. Embarrassing to admit as much on a fucking forum. It comes through in every single post you've made this thread.
>>181962905JJ Abrams has said this, the results that made it to screen also speak for themselves.
>>181963944WELL YOU SEE, HE WAS ACTUALLY SUPER DUPER FAST, READ THE NOVEL AND 35 ISSUES OF THE COMIC BOOK, IT'S EXPLAINED THERE! HE USED SITH FORCE FURY™ AND FORM VI WHICH COUNTERS MACE WINDOW'S FORM V!
>>181963908>Not well shotTLJ is a better looking film than any of the prequels, in terms of cinematography and general film craft.
>>181962378It's been explained in history you idiotEvery political manoeuvre and plot point in the prequels has a real life equivalent example, some numerous times
>>181963908>Even a deaf person can appreciate prequels tho, the shots are good.hahahahahhahaa
>>181964000No one involved with SW has ever acknowledged Plinkett reviews
>>181951382Went from quality to negative-quality. SW became shabby ever since as Lucas was also assraping the originals beforehand, though if you were inclined, there were stories from other licensed creatives that were still hit or miss. Books, comics, video games (think KOTOR). After the Mouse's acquisition, it's pure unfiltered garbage.
Saw what you want about the prequels, but the dialogue is extremely quotable and there was almost nothing from the recent movies.
>>181963444The majority of people are unthinking, borderline retarded NPCs who eat McDonalds and listen to popmusic hits of the month. I don't think those people are capable of mustering up enough independent thought or will to hate anything the mainstream media didn't tell them to hate. So in short, no.
>>181951382I saw all 3 in theaters on opening day. I literally don't remember anyone hating them until the plinkett videos. Jar Jar was really the only thing people didn't like and the Darth Vader NO scene.
>>181964256The Room is also quotable. Doesn't mean it was ever good. It's just so bafflingly bad and retarded that it became memorable for how bad it was.
I always liked them but the truth is that they were heavily criticized from day one. When episode one came out there was no movie like it, it was totally revolutionary from a visual point of view. The bonus material on the dvds was absolutely stellar.
>>181964334all I remember is star wars fans saying they had gone to the cinema 10-15 times trying to convince themselves to like the first one
>>181964334>I literally don't remember anyone hating them until the plinkett videosSure but that doesn't mean they weren't hated by hardcore OT fans long before plinkett. Blaming those shitty youtube vids for people disliking the prequels on the internet is fucking retarded you god damn sperg.
>>181964315I don't think it's that they're unthinking robots. It's that they just don't care. Most people don't care enough about Star Wars or even movies in general beyond occasional, disposable entertainment. Even people that loathed the prequels moved on with their lives by August of 2005. They had ball games to go to, birthday parties to schedule, and other movies to watch. This is what's actually driving a lot of the newfound "appreciation" of the prequels. Only the enthusiasts are left to care.
>>181963224I liked Jar Jar. He was funny. Plus the light saber fights were sick. I was 7 and didn't even realize that adults didn't like it. I also thought that the robots were awesome. I liked it more than I liked 2.
>>181957050I loved through it kiddo.
>>181963224Kids thought he was funny. We see this at screening interviews at the time.This is a bad hill to die on, as opposed to being adult and not finding him funny.
>>181963886You are legitimately seething
>>181964466>gets legitimately mad a firsthand account>calls me the sperg
>>181951382>hatedLiterally everyone my age was obsessed with them. Never heard anyone complain at all. Not about cgi, not about jarjar or anything else. It was just cool and inspiring and sold loaads of merch.Then again, I was like 7.
>>181963486I don’t put that in my asshole; I dilate with it
>>181962737>Darth Maul is a red and black murder machine that doesn't do anything for the entire film but try to kill people.Which is why he was great
>>181965132I'll bet you do
>>181962378Everything he said is inferred from the films.
>>181965328i do too