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>was told to watch this because it’s actually well written unlike every other anime
>it’s just like every other anime with a typical “edgy badass” mc

Why do people like this shit so much
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>>179702007
Berserk goes to shit after conviction, Golden age is the only ‘good’ arc
Vagabond and Vinland saga are far better representations of the sienen genre
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>>179702007
>iphone filename
every single time
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>>179702007
>watch
Nobody told you to do that
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>>179702007
Its for people who are insecure about watching cartoons. The rape and murder tells them that it is for grownups not kids.
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>>179702046
>Vagabond and Vinland saga are far better
They're both worse, especially Vinland Saga.
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>>179702068
This but unironically
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>>179702061
Good argument retard
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berserk has never gotten an adaptation of any kind that does it justice. read it if you want, but miura is gone. it's hard to recommend when he isn't around to see it finished.
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>>179702153
The story and characters are still shit
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>>179702208
your opinion literally doesn't matter
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>>179702276
Why do you talk like a roastie
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>>179702046
all of these suck but at least berserk has a good antagonist and villain
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>>179702317
>good antagonist
Sure buddy lmAo
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>>179702317
Askeladd mogs Griffith and you know it
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>>179702007
Let me tell you something you may not know yet,

You are a faggot
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>>179702096
Let me tell you something too,

You are a bigger faggot
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Just watch JoJo instead.
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>>179702007
You told me you wanted an anime that was adult and didn't have anything to do with kids, and I gave you one, OP. Sorry you didn't like it.
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>watching the anime
Low iq. The manga is the good shit.
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>>179702096
>especially Vinland Saga
Agree.
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>>179702131
pearls before swine, fag
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I hate miura so much it's unreal.
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>>179702046
>Vinland saga
Ask me how I know you’re a fag
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Crazy how there’s over 20 replies to this post and 0 discussion other than calling people fags and retards. I hate this board.
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>>179702007
It really isn't though, there's themes n shit. Also the music
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>>179702007
Let me guess, you watched the 2016 version at 1.5x speed on your second monitor while you were busy on your phone?
Berserk wasn't made for the zoomzoom generation. It's a work of art, each still frame a bounty of scenery to drink in. Guts the savage brute on the surface but inside full of turmoil constantly thinking about his actions and their consequences.
Griffin, a man driven by an all consuming passion and then the utter desolation when his lifes ambition is taken from him.
Only men that have reached for something greater than themselves can truly appreciate Berserk.
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>>179702850
No one is going to defend the shitty animation.
If you want Berserk go read it.
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>>179702007
>watch
oh shit nigger what are you doing
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Berserkfags are the most mentally ill people you'll ever come across.
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>>179703074
Dilate.
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Come to bed Griffith
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>>179702863
>there’s themes n shit
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>>179703056
The '97 is the best representation of the best part of the manga, cuts out the fat and unnecessary edgy shit (the king tryna rawdog his daughter, Casca rapebait pre-eclipse) and ends exactly where the manga should have
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>>179702007
>watch Berserk
just read the fucking manga, nigger. no anime ever matched the masterpiece that it is.
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>>179702777

hard to believe he's been dead for 10 years already.
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>>179703013
>men
>appreciate a cartoon
Please pick one
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179703206
Weak bait, do better.
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>>179702046
Berserk and Vinland both go to shit afterwards, I'm willing to say Berserk falls off harder cos it's so meandering that it's obvious Miura had no ending in mind but it also reaches greater heights than all of Vinland in the golden age along so idk

tl;dr fuck mangas for being inconsistent
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>>179703232
It’s not bait you’re just a faggot
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>>179703264

>Miura had no ending in mind

why are nippons like this
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>>179703271
Cry about it bitch nigga.
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>>179703294
I'm genuinely curious as to what makes you think he did. All that shit on the boat wasn't "development" I can tell you that
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>>179703160
Except it has a completely different tone. There is absolutely no replacement for the manga. If you're watching the 97 anime, the golden age movies, or god forbid the 2016/18 anime, you will never in a trillion years experience Berserk. You'll think you have experienced it, but you'll be cheated.
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>>179703294
Love anime but it took me a long time to accept that most of the time I won't get a proper ending. Really makes you appreciate the few that do.
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>>179703338
It's pretty accurate to the tone idk what you mean, what it does adapt is basically frame by frame and line for line - unless you're really autistic about action sequences and care more about them than character in which case makes sense

Also manga doesn't have Guts theme
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god i wish tht were me
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>>179703264
>Berserk and Vinland both go to shit afterwards, I'm willing to say Berserk falls off harder cos it's so meandering that it's obvious Miura had no ending in mind but it also reaches greater heights than all of Vinland in the golden age along so idk
I think Miura had a clear ending in mind given the foreshadowing with the IoE, God Hand, Skull Knight and the Millenium Sacrifice

Problem is he is one of those types of writers that let the story take hold of him and expand as it goes. And I think it was worth it if only he hadn't died in such a fluke way. For all the shit people give the boat arc, the satisfying payoff afterwards was amazing.
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>>179703338
nah, berserk 97 is pretty great and held in high regard
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>>179703338
Retard
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>>179702427
Fuck no. Askeladd was a Welshman.
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>>179703433
I refuse to believe that this show wasn't some high level prank played on the world.
If it wasn't a joke I don't know how the animators could live with themselves. If I was in their shoes I would have committed seppuku for bringing shame to my people.
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>>179703424
no, it's not. definitely not when you put it with the manga. The animation quality is beyond subpar and that retarded cliffhanger still makes me seethe. the only Berserk experience is the manga.
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>>179702007
movie > anime
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>>179702427
This but berserk had the advantage of guts being interesting too, thorfinn is fucking boring by comparison and therefore the dynamic isn't as great despite askeladd being individually better
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I can't sit through edgy grimdark anime but I love shit like One Piece and Trigun. If I want to watch something "mature" I'm probably not going to a fucking anime series for it
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>>179702397
yes
>>179702427
true, but Askeladd is the ONLY good character
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>>179703518
who made it? the people that did the movie did actually a somewhat decent job. obviously not Berserk standard, but they were good enough to get me hooked into the Berserk world and made me read the manga which is one of the best stories i've ever read in any fiction.

But wtf is with this 'anime'? I haven't even watched it but the gifs i've been seeing on it on 4chan have been beyond atrocious. How can you adopt one of the most popular mangas in Japan to that standard? I understand Berserk is very hard to adapt because of it's superb art, but goddamn - you said it yourself, it looks like a parody instead of something that is actually supposed to be taken serious.
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>>179703526
You can be a contrarian all you like but you are in the tiny minority. The 97 anime is universally praised as high art and rightly so. Every scene could be framed and put up in an art gallery. No matter how many times I watch it I am awed every time.
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>>179702007
You wouldn't get it tranny
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>>179703581
>but I love shit like One Piece
Childish faggot millennial spotted
>If I want to watch something "mature" I'm probably not going to a fucking anime series for it
You're right, now let me consume my hecken western movies like a good cum guzzling cattlenigger
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>>179703407
Is it possible that Miura was a vax death? I think he died just within the timeline of the vaccine becoming available in Japan. His heart literally split in two.
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>>179703599
>How can you adopt one of the most popular mangas in Japan to that standard?
The sad truth is as much as we praise nips very few have an real artistic integrity. Nothing is sacred and it all comes down to money. If middle managers think they can cut corners and get away with it they will no matter if it's a dime a dozen isekai or a beloved classic.
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>>179703526
>animation quality is subpar

Retarded nigger
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>>179703581
>one piece
Just say you are a retarded weirdo.
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*blocks your path*
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>>179703581
One piece fans are the bronies of anime
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>>179703688
Have another

Shit's pure sovl
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>>179702007
Funny I also was told to get into reading the comic book
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>>179703721
Both are masterpieces.
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>>179703721

lol
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>>179703680
entirely possible. the vaxx does funny shit to your body. Miura looked pretty healthy a few weeks prior to his death
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>>179703691
I'm on 4chan why the fuck would it need to be explicitly said
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What's more shocking, GoT or Berserk
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>>179703818
Made in Abyss
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>>179703770
What kind of a schizophrenic is going to read that?
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>>179702007
>>179702046
All of these are shit and people only like them because muh detailed art, same as One Punch Man.
If you want an actually well written fantasy manga read Sengoku Youko.
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>>179703818
>people in power kill off people that are threats to that power including family

there's nothing shocking in GoT except for how shit it was and how many people still kept watching
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>>179702046
Immensely based post. Especially all the butthurt it dredged up. Vinland Saga is great.
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>>179703611
the movies unironically did the Eclipse better
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>>179702007
Because weebs are delusional, 95%+ of anime/manga is absolute garbage and it's not worth wading through the shit to find the rare decent ones that exist, and you can't ask a weeb what the decent ones are because they have a completely warped sense of what would be considered good and compelling to a normal person
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>>179702007
nerds have limited life experience and thus seek to live vicariously through escapist entertainment. Typically the less life experience someone has, the more exaggerated the content they'll be into. See: Bronies, anime fans, dark souls gamers, etc.

By contrast, a typical boomer who's socially well adjusted will prefer something like James Bond or Indiana Jones, a heightened reality but still fundamentally set in an approximation of the real world, with a handsome ladies man who beats up bad guys. Much more realistic than flutterpony or wolf carrying sword etc.
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>>179703944
We just told you what the decent ones are, it's the subject of this thread.
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>>179702153
Do not listen to this weeb, the mangas are always just as shit as the animes whenever a weeb makes this claim
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>>179703944
This is in fact true. There are really only a handful of good anime.
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>>179702007
Why does guts look like a nigger in that pic
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>Vinlandtards
>bungeegumtards
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>>179703952
Boomers are lead poisoned retards who spiralled the world out of control just got a dollar of short term profit. By the way, you're none of the things you're currently idealising. You're a projecting loser who escapes to the internet and you're definitely obese
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>mogs your favourite manga
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>>179702007
They also use Cowboy Bebop and Chainsaw Man as "not like the other anime" but they're filled with shitty anime character archetypes and troupes.
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>>179703944
>Because weebs are delusional, 95%+ of anime/manga is absolute garbage and it's not worth wading through the shit to find the rare decent ones that exist,
That's true. But the alternative is watching modern western shit that is 100% bad and very otfen worse than anything anime/manga ever.
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>>179703294
Because most get paid peanuts to write manga so when one of theirs is successful they stretch it out for as long as possible
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>>179704057
You sound really upset about it, I'm glad you have this place to vent your frustrations.
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>>179704036
Finally someone with actual good tastes in the thread.
Thank you
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>>179704029
Sorry? I'm 29 years old, I'm an aging millennial. I own a farm in the south of France. You shitpost on /tv/. We're not the same
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>>179704117
You're poor and childless
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>>179704057
The later being mogged in popularity this past season by a "cute girl doing cute things" anime will never not be funny.
"Serious" anime are a joke.
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>>179702007
>watch this
You don't WATCH Berserk.
You READ Berserk.
You already fucked up, now you want to stamp your feet and cry and demand someone wipe your tears? No dice pally.
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>>179704078
There is a purity and honestly in weebshit that I find extremely refreshing. It's difficult to go back to western entertainment. I constantly have to be on the lookout for propaganda and woke shit. Meanwhile anime just wants to tell me a story without trying to rewire my brain to accept the latest programming sent down from on high.
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>>179703952
>James Bond or Indiana Jones
Okay nice bait
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>>179704117
Holy shit this guy has to be baiting
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>>179704036
Please, ignore the whole second half.
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>>179703664
This weeb is absolutely seething lol
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>>179704057
Rurouni kenshin
Serial experiments lain
Tatami galaxy
Flowers of evil
Berserk
Goodnight punpun
Monster
Vagabond
Uzumaki

All at least 8/10s just from the top of my head
(Shit tier: nge)
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>>179704169
>>179704166
>>179704133
I'm not poor, I have a child on the way, and I'm not baiting. I own a farm in the south of France and shitpost on /tv/, you merely shitpost on 4chan, pathetic.
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>>179704181
Now this is the kind of pretentious psude that gives weebs a bad name.
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>>179704181
>Serial experiments lain
The only anime I have ever shed tears over.
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>>179704141
You are a mentally ill tranny watching le hecking cuterino anime that was done a 100 times already.
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>>179703013
lol Guts was npc, as he said the only thing he knew and gave him purpose is to fight and kill and he used it to help to accomplish another man's dream, you would think that he has changed when he left the band of hawks but he remained the same npc
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>>179704199
I have a country home on two coasts and just got back from a ski trip in the aspens. I make more while sleeping than you make in a year. Never speak to me or my fellow anons again I don't want your mediocrity rubbing off on me.
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>>179704057
CB is a fine suggestion.
The other is a stand in for "currently hip shonenshit every normie watches, soon to be forgotten". Like every new marvel movie is the best marvel movie.
Like any hobby that went down the mainstream cloaca, you need to find your frame of reference or ask someone who knows your tastes, has no shit tastes, is not mainstream cattle and can suggest you something
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>>179704181
>Serial experiments lain
dog shit. meaningless.
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>>179703770
Jesus Christ what is it with Japs and pointless exposition, not reading all that shit but I already know you could get the same point across with a quarter of the words or less
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>>179704247
Lmao you're a jew why would I care what you think? Cringe you dont even grow your own food
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>>179704260
>meaningless
Literally the opposite.
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>>179704275
there is no philosophical depth. for most japs "philosophy" just means words that give a pleasant tingle
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>>179704181
>thinks NGE is shit tier while shilling Lain
Dishonest taste
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>>179704164
True. Same. Even if I'm generally not fond of modern anime, at least they don't spit on my brain and soul. At worst they are just bad.
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>>179702007
Read it dont watch
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>>179702007
that's how trannies reproduce, they trick people into watching tranime
good luck with your transitioning
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>>179704199
You're poor and brown
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>>179704117
lol this sounds like a copypasta
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>>179704313
Yeah I've seen the farm in france thing on a couple of boards. Maybe he just gets around but it feels like a larp. It's silly anyways as if real life matters a single iota in a discussion about a fictional story.
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>>179704291
>there is no philosophical depth
You are a massive brainlet if you couldn't take away any meaning from Lain.
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>>179703960
And I just told you weebs you all have a warped sense of what a normal well adjusted person would think is good, you have terrible taste that's why you read bugman wish fulfillment porn
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>>179704354
Like?
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>>179704356
You are posting on 4chan in the middle of the night you are not a well adjusted person.
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>>179704309
I'm not poor and I'm not brown, sorry that you associate a young successful hobby farmer with brown people and presumably have such a low opinion of your own people (europeans?) Unless you are projecting of course, and you yourself are some weird dalit mindy kaling peasant.

Weebs have incredibly limited live experience which makes them so upset when a guy can just come into a thread and explain that he has a normal life to them.

>>179704344
That's probably me, I'm pretty open with it, but I only post on /tv/
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>>179704141
Also, most animu has the tired femdom and effeminate male archetypes to appeal to weird spergs. Hiyazaki was spot on when he said Jap cartoonists just copy each others work, and don't observe real people and then caricature it.
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people say Berserk is well written.
It is, but it also suffers from classic manga problem of overstaying it's welcome and going nowhere. the best written manga I've come across is Full Metal Alchemist. It starts off slow, speeds up, gets gripping, has a well paced story and best of all it ENDS. no fan service, no bloat, no superfluous characters, just
beginning
middle
end
it's like a western novel in that respect
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>>179704373
how about self sacrifice you dense fucking retard
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>>179704313
He's making a obscure joke about being Varg, the retard. Which means he is just trolling.
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>>179704386
Nah I've seen it on /ck/ and /pol/, you get around le pew.
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>>179704373
Perfect archetypical structure. Persona. Shadow. Anima. Self. In that order.
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>>179704181
>Serial Experiments Lain
>Monster
Seriously?
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>>179704400
How is that a "deep" theme? LMAO. How is that even a theme? That's just something that happens. What does the anime even have to say about it? This is the problem with anime brains. They think depicting something is the same as saying something important about it.
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>>179704423
Top 10 favourite movies, now.
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>>179702007
worthless zoomer with 5sec attention span, do us a favour and gut yourself slowly
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>>179704409
Nonsense.
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>>179704386
>your own people (europeans?)
i don't identify with white people, they're all cucks and leftist fags. but yes i am taking your larp to bait my home board 00jjw
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>>179704405
Sorry, I guess there are other farmers from france who post here, I've never been on /ck/ in my life and /pol/ got boring after trump election.

Also I'm from north america originally, I moved after I realized land was a lot easier to procure here than in Canada (and it was).

These are experiences weebs will have no inkling of, and therefore will jerk off to "Oh No, My Penis Is Secretly A Global Pop Star??? And An Alien?!" and normal guys will just kind of watch boomerslop or mob movies
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>>179704181
>Serial experiments lain
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>>179704474
>he's a leaf
It all makes sense now kek.
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>>179704446
movies aren't a very good gauge of intellect
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>>179704465
What is "white"? you should use "european" because its more specific and not some weird 20th century jewish deracination phrase like "white" or "black"

>>179704490
>hah youre from some country therefore i dont need to re-examine my obsession with cartoons for undersocialized japanese boys HA
you got me pal
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>>179704164
>just wants to tell me a story without trying to rewire my brain
Which is why weebs and otakus are such normal well adjusted people who never obsess over underage female cartoon characters to the point they pretend they are in romantic relationships with them lmao
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>>179704446
1. Parasite
2. Get Out
3. EEAAO
4. The Handmaiden's Tale
5. Divergent
6. Knives Out
7. The Menu
8. Black Panther
9. Black Panther 2: Wakanda Forever
10. Candyman
Gain taste, loser.
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>>179704164
you can literally just watch or read books made before 2010 and you'll probably be fine. There's a whole western canon youre denying yourself to watch *squints* "I Become A Girl At NIGHT?! AND I'm A Succubus???". All three seasons of it.
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>>179704382
It's 8 o'clock here you faggot lol
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>>179704423
Forgot to mention I'm trans btw, not sure if that matters
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>>179704554
>Nothing from before 2015
Good bait, here's your (You)
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>>179704554
based
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>>179704585
The Amershart eternally thinks everyone must live in his exact time zone
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>>179704554
Based
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>>179703721
the chimera ant arc goes on for so fucking long. Its when the internal monologue narration gets out of hand that it almost becomes unbearable
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>>179704057
>archetypes... BAD
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I like anime.
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>>179704389
Yeah, one othe wort thing in modern anime
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>>179704397
100% agree about FMA.
That's how it should be done
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>>179704400
>>179704423
Saying something is about "le sacrifice" means nothing on its own.
You can have a deep interesting touching story about sacrifice just as you can have a shallow childish tropey story about sacrifice.
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>>179704880
Sure but we are talking about Lain's supposed deep commentary on modern life
The worst bit is when "God" appears and bears no relationship to the concept
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>>179704573
>you can literally just watch or read books made before 2010 and you'll probably be fine.
I already do that, dumbo.
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>>179704967
Uh, western canon bros..?
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>>179702131
>Big sigh
the endless summer really started with the release of the first I phone
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>>179704908
I agree with you on Lain.
There is a certain subset of people who are tricked by products who look/feel intellectual/deep on a surface level just becasue they are somber/slow and magniloquent
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>>179702007
All nip media is garbage. Whether you are watching anime or korean dramas or playing japanese video games you can be sure that there will be a lot of autistic inner monologuing, needless exposition, juvenile humor, edgy childish sense of maturity, and emotionally exaggerated acting.

Nips commit every writing sin known to man. They dont know how to be subtle.
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>>179702046
Glad that more and more people realize that now.
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>>179705036
Yes you hit the nail on the head there
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>>179705043
try reading actual Nip books like Kawabata, Mishima, etc.
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>>179702850
/tv/ has shit taste in movies but at least it knows tranime is fucking horrible
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>>179702007
Good job with the bait op.
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>>179705043
It's just a difference in culture.
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>>179703952
>dark souls gamers
But people play that for the heckin difficulty don't they? I thought those games were pretty devoid of narratives
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>>179705265
he just namedropped something he didn't like
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>>179704902
Cope harder weeb
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>>179705265
Dark souls doesn’t have a narrative at all. It’s all item descriptions that haphazardly attempt to tell a story.
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agreed it was boring shit
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>>179704057
Legend of the Galactic Heroes
Magi
Ousama Ranking
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>>179702007
>watch
that's the problem right there
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>>179702131
KYS phonenigger
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>>179704173
filtered
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>>179702046
shut the fuck up retard.
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>>179705265
Difficult games are for people without difficult lives. Like kids and manchildren who work at Arbys.
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>>179705290
>>179705325
>They think escapist entertainment necessarily needs to be narrative-based
toppest kek
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>>179705743
This. There's so much important shit you could do in the time you're beating a single Souls boss, it's ridiculous.
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>>179705770
You probably spend that time watching woke tv series
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>>179705963
Nah, I barely watch live action television. Right now I'm watching the replay of the Joel Davis x Jon Miller stream from some hours ago.
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>>179705770
Now imagine what you could be doing instead of shitposting on an anime image board
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>>179706093
Doesn't take much focus and I can walk away whenever. Dark Souls doesn't even have a pause button.
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>>179706093
Im working right now lmao. It's slow so I'm shitposting on the clock. Weeb loser
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I wonder what it's like to get into Berserk today, post boat arc, post Miura's death, post movies and shitty series, with it as one of the most popular manga properties in the west. I started reading it in 2005 after watching the shitty DVD at a friends house that he got from some gross stand at an anime convention in DC.
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>>179702777
Your waifu a shit
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>>179703433
Fuckin Droidekas??
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>>179703680
>>179703777
Miura was taking his health very seriously. He would even frequently work out and run with Studio Gaga employees. One of the employees said he was always up to date on medications and monitoring his health, I forget who. To my mind everything points to it being a vax death, but I don't think about it too often because it's so disheartening.
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>>179703581
>One Piss
Seriously dude?
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>>179704116
Pleb
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>>179702046
>far better representations of the sienen genre

>Sword of the Stranger
>Angel Cop
>Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust
>Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex/2nd GIG
>Cyber City Oedo 808
>Basilisk
>Ninja Scroll
>Mushishi
>Onihei
>Death Frenzy
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>out KINOs every media production in history
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mogs your cheap copy
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>>179706502
KILL yourself, EMTranny FAGGOT
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>>179702007
>Watching any sort of chonger shit
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>179703952
Work on your B8 faggot
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>>179704296
NGE is Pseud: the Anime. The biblical symbolisms is just window dressing for the Anno's Daddy Issues. I still watched it because the aesthetics and designs are cool.
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>>179706502
ask me how i know you're a transvestite
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>>179705257
Cultural relativism is stupid. Values are objective.
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>>179702007
Overrated but it's still pretty good
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>>179706502
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>told to watch this it's decent
>it's a ridiculous straight for children show
really don't get animefags
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>>179707701
6/10, made me chuckle
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>>179707701
forgot pic
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>missed the brserk thread
Fuck you all
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>>179703184
Don't scare me like that, it's only been 4 years
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>>179707109
Which values? There’s a lot to choose from. Personally I think the social mores that dominated in the first decade of Pericles’ rule were the ones most closely aligned with the moral codes that predate the creation of the universe. All the others that have ever governed any other culture are incorrect.
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*blocks your path*
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best girl
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>>179706473
Death Frenzy is one of my all time favorite animes, shame that they only adapted half the manga.
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"DO YOU WANT TO MAKING FUCK BERSERKER"
toppest of kino
https://youtu.be/2YzHTt2Pns4
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>>179708025
yeah it's great
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>>179702007
themes of nihilism and hopeless struggle must be subtle indeed when the muscle man swinging big clump of metal drew your eyes away from the central theme of the man dubbed as "the struggler" by a skeleton man knight
i recommend you don't touch a single philosophy book in your entire life, get high on some dope ass weed and just blare doom music next time you watch it
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>>179702007
>Muh dreams
Lmao. Weebtards actually think that this shit is good art and not just above average edgy anime.
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>>179702007
People who've never read actual philosophy think it's very philosophical and has a lot to say
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>>179703141
UNCLE IROH NOOOOOOO
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>watching the trashime instead of the manga
You piece of shit
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>>179703581
I'm just fed up with grimdark edgy bullshit, but I'm also fed up with braindead shounen slop like DBZ and One Piece too.

So I guess I'll just watch braindead super robot slop like all the Brave series instead.
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>>179708107
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>>179702007
Anyone who tells you to watch Berserk is a retard. Read Berserk to appreciate the art and that's about it, the story has some highs but it's not the best.
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>>179708245
here's your (you) sir, now go back to reading the ancients in /lit/
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https://youtu.be/n55QVlBoDxI
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>>179708358
ENTER
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>>179708422
Manga will never produce good art. Cope.
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>manga will never produce good art
okay you're not even getting a (you) for that you hack, at least try next time
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Weeb is mad because his YA fantasy shit full of cliches will never be at the level of Karamazov brothers or Shakespeare.
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>>179708575
You know Shakespeare was considered lowbrow when he was alive, right?
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>>179708025
>>179708107
>>179708358
>>179708477
yea, i'm thinking based
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Read the manga retard. The art is one of the best parts anyway.
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>>179708575
>Shakespeare
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>179708670
that's a myth
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>>179706297
Read it last year i think.
The boatshit seemed to drag on a bit long. When i found out how many years the fucker miura spent on that shit i understood why the fans wanted to strangle him
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Same thing happened to me with Evangelion. What a fucking waste of time.
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>>179702046
>Golden age is the only ‘good’ arc
pleb filtered. Conviction is the undisputed peak of not only Berserk but all graphic novels/comics/whatever you call this nerd shit
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>>179702096
Vagabond worse? No
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>>179706912
Lain is about an AI girl who convinced herself she's a real girl. It's fucking Pinocchio. It isn't deep and the message applies to no one. It meanders along and stretches it's runtime with shots filled with literal white noise because it had no budget.

Evangelion accurately depicted how abused children exist in a hyper competitive society where their worth is determined by their performance in battles that are metaphors for growing up.
It talks about neglectful parents. It also shows children that suffered PTSD and how they manage it as adults.

The battles were amazing, and they perfectly depicted the weight of giant fights as every step an Eva takes crushes pavement. The animation was still in the golden age of pre CGI and the shots hold up.

It's not even a contest. Saying you like lain and trash talking Eva is the biggest pseud take. Lain is literal white noise trying to pass off deeper themes with no execution or performance. EVA is all grand epic science fiction that explores the actual real human condition. And with 4 movies and the original tv series there's more to cover.
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>>179702007
all anime is trash
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>>179703688
I don't see any animation there, which yes is very reflective of that slideshow.
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>>179702046
Golden Age fags are the worst part of Berserk fanbase.
All of the Hawks are two-dimensional characters clearly designed to be killed off. A single member of Guts current party has more personality than all of them combined. Yes, including Schierke and Isidro.
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>>179705265
Dark souls definitely has a narrative yes. Not just the item descriptions lore either, it has storylines which play out narratively.
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>>179708996
It's honestly shocking how common the smoothbrain take on Evangelion is.

It's biggest contribution are the psychological themes like you described. Anybody who still get hung up on the fucking biblical set dressing, or worse, the deconstruction thing, are colossal brainlets.
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>>179702046
After farnese and that loli appeared it became utter garbage
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>>179706297
I got into it like two years before Miura's death, maybe a little earlier. The boat arc was very strung out and a distraction, but it wasn't all bad because the art was at least cool. I read it all kinda in one swoop though and so that's my opinion of it, I can imagine for everyone else who spents YEARS in it, it was awful. I have an immense respect for Miura but Idol Master really fucked us all
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>>179706502
Maybe when WIT had it. Doesn't matter now because the animation is trash and the onsen faggot already torpedoed his own series with it's dogshit end. Rabbi gave him the call
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>>179703013
griffith is a faggot prancing around naked and guts is murderkillman
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>>179706461
Cope
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>>179707974
>outlandish hyperbole
>muh relativism
lol
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>>179702592
The most grown up anime ever is LOTGH. Its all politics, history and war. No moe, no sex, no kawai shit, no silent badass, no screaming, no super powers.
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>>179708419
This
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>>179702007
My friend watched this and loved it so I recced him Jojo
He thought Jojo sounded like the gayest shit ever
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>>179707109
Unless you can admit your own values are incorrect then you don’t believe this. Otherwise you are the single most intelligent being that’s ever existed (you aren’t).
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>>179703581
Based
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>>179708670
You know that the lowbrow shit you like is 99.9999999999999999% actually lowbrow and not Shakespeare, right?
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>>179708670
>>179708736
Seething Frogs detected
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>>179708670
Shakespeare IS lowbrow but this is no contradiction with being one of the best playwrights ever if not THE best.
Primarily art is entertainment. Only fart sniffers have delusions to the contrary.
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>>179706297
Read the entire manga in a couple weeks shortly before miuras death.
Reading it all at once largely negates the pacing problems and miuras death happening while berserk still had grip over my mind heightened my feelings toward it
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I have more respect for coomer weebs than for "intellectual" weebs. At least they know that they are reading and watching mostly shit.
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>>179704181
I recently re-read Kenshin and it was utter fucking DOGSHIT.
I can't believe people really hype this up, the artstyle is childish, the writing is abysmal, childish and immature, characters are cardboards in terms of characters.
The only good thing Kenshit has going for it are few beautifully animated scenes from the OG anime
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>>179702046
This is the retard take. Conviction and Millenium Falcon are kino
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>>179703294
>why are nippons like this
Is not only the japs. Just look at the fatman AKA GRRM and the Lost retards
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>>179703944
Your weeb friends are trash and remember all TV shows are made for women
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>>179702007
>watch
There's your fucking problem. Berserk has not had a good adaptation ever, and yes, that includes the 1997 one. It's like judging Tolkien's works by watching Peter Jackson's The Hobbit trilogy.
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Berserk went down into the dump due to simplistic Casca arc that offered no worthwhile narrative elements. She's being brought to fairy island to heal. That's it. This is also why the people who continued with Berserk leaned heavily into it, because it's very easy to write. Flashbacks, trauma, callbacks, redemption... all predictable goyslop for normalfags. What fucked Berserk up is that it started going into one direction, and everyone knew what would happen with the payoff. The second problem is the dichotomy between Gutts and Griffith. You have to splinter the narrative to accomodate both arcs and Miura did it by turning Berserk into a monster of the week fantasy (Griffith's apostles). It's not like that wasn't there before, but it went from dark fantasy into high fantasy with some gorey elements. The final nail in the coffin was the Berserker Armor, giving the protag an undefined and therefore unlimited source of power to draw from, taking the wind out of every possible future encounter.
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>>179702007
yeah berserk doesn't have great adaptations, but it has consistently kino music. read the manga if you actually want a good time.
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>>179704181
I read a good part of Goodnight Punpun but it's just too real. I need my dose of escapism.
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>>179703338
97 golden age arc > manga golden age arc. Anime got rid of the cringe edgy shit and focused on the good parts of the golden age.
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>>179702007
>Guts
>edgy badass
How to tell everyone you didn't actually read Berserk without saying it
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>>179711001
Not to mention all the knock off Marvel characters Wastsuki created.
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>>179705043
How dare you call nip media juvenile. This doesn't look COOL to you?
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>>179710916
Not him ad not disagreeing with you:
>Primarily art is entertainment.
Yes but art needs to be good. Yes, even lowbrow art. And that requires and audience with standards.
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>They finally got off the boat
>Some something something demons are helping humans fight war now
>Casca is cured
>Miuradies
Fucking hack.
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>>179708025
>shame that they only adapted half the manga.
The ending is great as well fuck these hoes.
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>>179711582
Gute’ entire character is ‘edgy badass’ in black swordsman and lost children
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>>179704164
Mmm estrogens
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>>179702007
Most people like the manga because it'is genuine piece of art. Detailed drawings, meaningful composition and panelling with references to western art. The story is mediocre as up until now Guts did not evolve as a character. Griffith's actions are those of a video game villain(rape and capture the princess). There are some interesting concepts here and there like will vs destiny but most of the time it doesn't really fly high.
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>>179702007
Its literally baby's first dark fantasy for every /v/ faggot
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>>179702046
your opinion is wortless. die.
*steps on you*
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>>179712789
>t. The story is mediocre as up until now Guts did not evolve as a character.
DID YOU PERHAPS MISS THE 200 CHAPTERS OF GUTS RE-LEARNING TO TRUST AND RELY ON HIS COMRADES, SCHIERKE, SERPICO, FARNESE, ISIDRO , PUCK AND IVALEERA
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>>179703013
>Berserk wasn't made for the zoomzoom generation. It's a work of art
https://youtu.be/QT13kk8HDDo
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>>179703721
hiatusbros...
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>JRPG party
>Power ranger armor
>Narrative reset with casca being kidnapped AGAIN (this was muira's plan too)
>Whole bunch of nothing side characters
>Pointless meetings with pointless side characters on a pointless island

The reason why the 97 anime was the PEAK of Berskerk is that it's a self contained story by itself. The ending wasn't a cliffhanger, it was a tragedy. That's how it should be seen. The prologue at least gave you hope that he survived but it shouldn't really be elaborated further because everything post golden age was meandering, mindless drivel.
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>>179702046
Vinland Saga was never as good as Berserk or Vagabond. The first two arcs are amazing though, but even then it was the worse of the three.
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>>179704397
only good reply in this thread. i love berserk but post-conviction it just goes nowhere. fmab is how it’s done
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>>179702007
>watch
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>>179702007
Actually filtered, actual brainlet take.



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