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Thread for the discussion of arthouse and classic cinema.

Open Air Kino edition

>/film/ literature
https://mega.nz/folder/OVIDlQTJ#7L4e8TGqNnbJEFqQzaf8lw
>/film/ charts
https://mega.nz/folder/87xyiJjZ#3B2eXe2lmN2KbFNNEagggQ
>/film/ directors directory
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qgdYsMPAaFWrAa_7EHLpXqpOHLaDLmytM9wJ5nhGtqs/edit?usp=sharing
>FAQ
https://pastebin.com/W1ja9dwp (embed) (embed) (embed)
>but anon, how do I make webms with MPV?
https://github.com/ekisu/mpv-webm

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Vertigo
Mulholland Drive
Persona

The holy trinity of masterpieces of cinema that transcend the subconscious. These are not mere films. They are the works of medieval craftsman of yore. They should be spoken of in the same breath as Michaelangelo and Raphael.
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Top 5 zoomer directors

1. ROBERT EGGERS
2. DAMIEN CHAZELLE
3. ARI ASTER
4. THE SAFDIE BROTHERS
5. XAVIER DOLAN
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>>177165621
>Vertigo
Exceptionally good
>Mulholland Drive
pretty damn good
>Persona
Haven't seen
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>>177166227
1. me eventually
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Did the Sight and Sound 2022 list ever release?
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>>177166751
They've now confirmed it comes out in December.
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Does /film/ like director home movies?
https://boxd.it/jcnHI
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>>177166652
Somebody actually commented this

>>177166227
Mitchell is the best

>>177165621
Vertigo is average
Persona is bad
Mullholland is kino but not the best Lynch
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>>177167026
You are boring and dumb
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>>177165621
kys
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What does /film/ think about Zizek's film commentary especially on Hitchcock?
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>babby's first arthouse is as good as Michelangelo!!!
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>>177167113
>Michelangelo
Who gives a fuck? Tourist painter
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>>177166787
prepare to get LYNCHED like never before
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>>177166227
All irrelevant faggots and the first guy only made one solid film.
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>>177167108
I have not seen that commentary specifically, but Zizek is great at opening your eye to the matrix of capitalism. Once you are aware of it, at least you can either choose to defend it (evil) or fight against it (good). But you no longer have the excuse of ignorance.
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Once again, I ask for more directors like Kenneth Anger, his visual and kinetic energy is out of this world.
Mouse Heaven is shocking and quite ominous but my favorite is Pleasure Dome with the mass ost.
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>>177167221
>Zizek is great at opening your eye to the matrix of capitalism
No he's a retarded communist I really don't give a fuck about his political views, only found his film criticism interesting
>to defend it (evil) or fight against it (good)
Peak zoomer retardation, did they teach you crap in (((college)))
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>>177167256
He is a Satanist.
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>>177167113
Who are you quoting?
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>>177166746
Gangsta
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>>177167062
For what reason. Femoid goes to the spa, 1960s blockbuster with Freud psychology, and Lynch explaining the entire twist the last 15 minutes of the film but Redditors still being confused is not the peak of cinema. Watch more. I also don’t like Italian painters.

>>177167286
Alright this is the energy we need in here. Based.

>>177167256
Anger sucks
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>>177167342
4chan, the place of morals
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Bros where do i find the hole 1998?
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>>177167256
His style is too different across his films tp name some
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>>177167342
>>177167406
useless replies
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>>177167468
Did you try ok.ru
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>>177167468
AvistaZ, rutracker
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>>177167523
Roeg maybe?
Jodo?
Oshii
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>>177167523
His Satanic philosophy is imbued in his films.
https://youtu.be/0SbFzvTKTzM
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>>177167648
I never argued that you stupid autist
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>>177167594
Have not will try
>>177167596
Thanks mate
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Too much RELIGIOUS GARBAGE in these threads.
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>>177167721
yes
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>>177167721
Pretty much every single good film ins about religion is some way, hate to break it to you anon..
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>>177167814
The godfather is not about religion and that's just one example
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>>177167892
Yes it is
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>>177167814
Lol
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>>177167721
Our elite worship The Sinister Current
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>>177167892
Out of all the films you could've chosen you go with one that is actually very obviously about religion lmao
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It did not escape my notice that one of my posts was deleted by a janny who is probably a homosexual Judeo-Marxist.
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Did you watch Vortex by Gaspar Noè?
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>>177167770
PAUL SCHRADER WROTE A TWEEEEEET
PAULEINE KAEL WROTE A REVIEW. PAULINE KAEL!!!
IT'S A FILM PRINT RELEASED BY THE CRITERION COLLECTION FROM MARTIN SCORSESE'S PERSONAL COLLECTION!!!
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>>177167939
>>177168207
it is not about religion in any way, it is about the italian mafioso. the religion in it is just showing the corruption of the catholic church.
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>>177168711
>MARTIN SCORSESE
Booooooooorrrrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiing!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>177168750
Embarassing take. There's a very clear sense of juxtaposing christian values that are feigned by the mafia against the brutal reality of their action. The baptism scene is not about the corruption of the church, it's about showing the contrast between purity and darkness. Michael is also clearly portrayed as a devil figure here.
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Woody Allen is reddit.
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>Escape.to.the.Silver.Globe.2021.POLISH.1080p.WEBRip.x265-VXT
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>>177168977
Don't care what's reddit or not. You do
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>>177167178
the biggest star of 1918, myrtle gonzalez, is totally forgotten
none of /film/ matters. the only director who will last forever is Spielberg, with films such as ET, and Star Wars
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>>177169030
muh jodorowsky dune meme.
on the silver globe is not unfinished. It is done for everyone to see. the scenes that weren't completed don't really hurt it. every movie deals with compromises.
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>>177169246
>the biggest star of 1918, myrtle gonzalez
Source?
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>>177169246
>the biggest star of 1918
You mean Mary Pickford.
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>>177169246
ET has no cultural capital with anyone under 30 nowadays anymore
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>>177169246
He didn't direct ET and most of his films are responsible for the worst parts of Hollywood sentimentality today.
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>>177169469
>He didn't direct ET
Retard.
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>>177169469
>He didn't direct ET
/film/ intellectuals
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>>177169360
Zulawski is reddit anyway.
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>>177169589
Nah he scares reddit
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>>177169246
He didn't direct Star Wars.
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>>177169800
JJ Abrams directed Nu Star Wars and he is discount Spielberg with even less soul.
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recommend me kinos with the occult.
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>>177169896
Rosemary' Baby
The Shining
The Uninvited
The Entity
The Last Temptation Of Christ
Cronos
Onibaba
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>>177169896
I really wonder what Cassavetes was like behind the scenes of this. Was he trying to backseat direct Polanski? Did he improvise scenes of himself slapping Mia Farrow around? Did he show up to set drunk? I wish we had more stories of what cassavetes was like outside of his own sets.
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>When Jack Nicholson played with Marlon Brando in the Missouri Breaks, on the first day of filming, they did seven shots with Marlon Brando, and one with Jack Nicholson.
>Jack Nicholson was so astonished by Marlon Brando's ability, he threatened to quit the movie.
>The director calmed him down, and they halted filming for a couple days to rehearse more.
>When asked about his experience working alongside Brando, Jack Nicholson said he didn't know what acting with Brando was like, because he was acting alongside god.
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>>177170087
Yeah I wondered this too, but Polanski was already important enough he probably did not backseat direct. It is only with these first time nobodies that the actors take over the set. Or the ones who are huge, DeNiro is known to completely take over every set he is on.
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>>177170368
Rosemary's Baby was also a huge property so they knew they were lucky to be a part of it.
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>>177170312
the missouri breaks is just okay, and Brando is essentially bugs bunny in that movie. Whatever reefer Nicholson was smoking during production I would love to try.
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>>177170087
Did you see the movie where he beats and shoots Ronald Reagan?
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>>177168750
Bro are you retarded, if Michael were to become a good Christian none of the fucked up shit would happen to him.
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>>177170637
Yeah I saw this one, and I didn't really care too much for it other than the gimmick of seeing Cassavetes and Reagen.
I actually kind of liked Machine Gun McCain which is some schlocky B movie that has both Cassavetes and Gena Rowlands in it. They're only together for a scene though.
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>>177170368
>>177170393
I'm trying to imagine what Rosemarys Baby would look like under Cassavetes. I'm just picturing Peter Falk and Seymore Cassel as Satanists, and the devil would be played by Ben Gazzara.
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>>177169896
I love Polanski's work but hate him a fucking demonic kike pedo
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>>177173029
this image got me into film noir all the way back in 2010. The film didn't impress me all that much but that final shot is so good, and the rest of the film is very classic film noir. Nice little throwback image right there.
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>>177173029
Amusing that one the most iconic images that defines Noir comes from a film that's not on the big league of acclaim and love.
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>>177173077
Maltese Falcon did it for me and The Big sleep cemented it
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>>177173220
Big Sleep is one of those I didn't care for the first time but i've seen it like 5 times now and I love it more each time, and even when its over now I just want to pop it right back in and rewatch it.

That said The Third Man and Touch of Evil are still my personal favorites.
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whats a good Thanksgiving film
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>>177173488
Planes Trains and Automobiles is really good, as /film/ as an American comedy can be
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Can you fuckers get away from your families so we can talk about decades old kinos, Fuck.
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>>177173809
I'm not doing the first or in the mood for the second
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You're not having power fantasies over being a film director right /film/? Without ever actually taking any real steps towards making a film beyond thinking about it?
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>>177173995
Not true. I've written half a dozen scripts that aren't shit and within the realm of reason, but it literally takes tens of thousands to get started if you'e a nobody who can only finance out of pocket.
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>>177174146
Literally just get a camera and some people together and shoot, hiding behind "mud budget" is pure cope since the only real cost is getting a camera nowadays with good quality digital being so easily available
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>>177173995
I'm way past that. Now I have power fantasies about being an already accomplished director who's done making groundbreaking films and now spends his time doing interviews where journalists gush over my work and my opinions as I remain humble in the face of it all and leave behind a legacy as one of the greats.
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>>177174236
Nobody's going to watch someone's little youtube skit he made with his friends on his dinky digital camera. Those aren't movies.
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>>177173995
I have seen some quite fine short films on vimeo that have mostly been made by just one person, with a bare bones crew of actors and technicians. I think, or hope, that in the coming decades these people who are now film students or enthusiasts will actually go on making proper full length features
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>>177174342
It's true. I've made a bunch of short films over the course of several years I put on youtube and they all have less than 16 views.
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>>177174342
You're already so far off the path without taking even the first step: do you think world class figure skaters just put skates on one day and started jumping triple axels? Did the greatest painters, writers, musicians create their magnum opus their first time picking up a brush/pen/instrument? There is so many thousands of hours of practice (and being embarrassingly bad most likely) behind every virtuoso which you seemingly refuse to do when you won't get off your ass and actually practice the art of film-making beyond fantasizing about it.
This is actually the worst part about cinema as an artform, there is no easy way of practicing it like you can with painting or writing etc. with the process being so dependent on other people and taxing. How good would films be if people could practice it at the same ease as other artforms is what I wonder
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>>177174497
That's where the friends/networking element comes in, you need some people to shill your shorts on twitter and letterboxd and such.
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>>177174531
>There is so many thousands of hours of practice
Are you even thinking for thirty seconds about the shit that is spewing out of your mouth? Anyone can pick up a digital camera and make pretty pictures with it, if not then it editing, and yes that takes practice and cameras do not cost much money anymore, but how many other people do you think are doing that? Plenty, and let me break it to you sometimes all that practice comes wiith no reward, it happens.
Also, on another note, there is more to filmmaking then a camera. Even beyond the basics like sound equipment, lights, rigging equipment, whatever it is, and even if you choose to omit most of these, there is still all the expendables and tiny stuff that comes up. Food, gas, transportation. And if you're trying to be super serious, then insurance, and law fees. This is stuff figure skaters or a musician trying to master a single instrument do not have to deal with. You are the only one that is doing the fantasizing.
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>>177174531
Practice in this case doesn't even count since making a real movie is completely different
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>>177174554
My friends don't have any more social capital than I do, you seem very young and idealistic.
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>>177173468
Big Sleep is so confusing the first time but also comfy, unironically Big Lebowski helped be understand it better
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>>177174770
Private eye movies for some reason are incredibly comfy. Big Sleep, Big Lebowski, Long Goodbye, and Inherent Vice. I really love all of these and it is mainly because they are just relaxing to watch, and you can just pop it in any time. they all have a unique sort of genre vibe to them.
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What about the Robert Mitchum version of The Big Sleep?
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>>177174236
I thought I was the only one who gives interviews in my head
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>>177174928
i liked the ending of this one better
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>>177174677
>but how many other people do you think are doing that? Plenty, and let me break it to you sometimes all that practice comes wiith no reward, it happens
So what? Do you think the fundamental purpose of film-making is to "make it" in the industry or trying to express something of your soul through the artform? What is your point exactly, that because some people put in the practice and recieve no reward and thus practice in and of itself is worthless?
The rest of the post is just justifying your lack of agency
>sound equipment
piss cheap nowadays
>lights
shoot outside or with existing lights
>rigging equipment
tripod, shoulder rig, shopping cart for a dolly if necessary
>Food, gas, transportation
If this somehow is prohibiting you from making a film I'm sorry to tell you that you probably never had the chops or the passion for it anyway
>And if you're trying to be super serious, then insurance, and law fees.
Shoot with your friends and other people at the grassroots level of film-making
>This is stuff figure skaters or a musician trying to master a single instrument do not have to deal with.
Which is EXACTLY the point I made in my previous post. The fact that making a film is so logistically difficult makes practice even MORE important as you're more accustomed to the process and actually know what you're doing and not wasting everyone's time if you actually have a good setup going
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The truly passionate make films on a budget of $100, like Andy Milligan
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>>177174688
It fundamentally affects your view on the artform and makes your vision of what you want to do clearer which I find is the most important aspect. You really comprehend it on a much deeper level when you actually start to engage in the form instead of just following it as a viewer (which is very useful too but not a substitute for the former)
And then just learning the actual process of making a film, if you've ever been on a shoot with a first-time director they will sound like a drooling idiot most of the time because actually expressing all the ins and outs of every single aspect of how you want the film to be is difficult
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>>177175052
I like the crazy junkie daughter too
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Painful to get through, does not respect the poignancy of it shots and moments but instead runs through them as if trying to just convey written information as fast and efficiently as possible to the viewer. Far too literal, why would I not just read the original text instead?
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>>177174531
>>177174677
doesnt matter what equipment you get, if you dont have connections in the media or a rich uncle, you will not get the quality of views you need. if you got any viewers it will just be retards who trash you for sport.
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>>177175585
>why would I not just read the original text instead?
Because it's a different medium, with different capabilities and intentions. Now if you just want the story/plot, often a book is better.

Gibson's is superior. Pasolini in general is only okay.
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>>177174928
I tried watching it because I love Robert Mitchum and I love The Big Sleep. However this was hackneyed and cornball. A waste of a great actor and a waste of great source material.
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>>177175104
You are clearly in the midst of a manic episode. Please seek help and then I'll be happy to discuss the realities of filmmaking.
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>>177175676
Well yes my advice is contingent on the jewish faith. You are all my fellow jew brothers right?
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>>177175104
>What is your point exactly, that because some people put in the practice and recieve no reward and thus practice in and of itself is worthless?

Yes. Time is money. If you pursue a dream in filmmaking, you have wasted 5 years where you could have rose the rank in another industry that is open to you.
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>>177175776
>Because it's a different medium, with different capabilities and intentions. Now if you just want the story/plot, often a book is better.
Which is exactly my point, the film never transcends beyond the written material it is based on. Every moment that has the potential for something greater, something truly moving is not allowed to fully realize its potential, it's cut away from to bring in the next set piece to advance the story. It might have worked if he did a film twice as long but now its in the painful middle ground of being both too long and too short
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>>177175829
If that makes you feel better go ahead, it seems like my posts struck a chord. I do hope you one day get off your ass and actually try to do something instead of just power fantasizing about it on 4chan
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>>177175990
Easy to be a critic, but how many could actually put together a well made film?
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>>177175950
Autistic thinking, enjoy being totally miserable at age 48 as a soulless consultant at McKenzie as you realize all the money and "status" you've gained loses all of its meaning because you wasted your youth trying to make "sensible" decisions instead of actually following what truly fulfills you to your very core
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>>177176044
Not being able to do it yourself does not mean that you can't critisize something i totally could though
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>>177176042
So you must be a happy and successful filmmaker then? Tell me about your body of work, sir.
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>>177176117
Haha by then at 48 I will be worth three million dollars, while the struggling artist will have a net worth of fuck all, and some autistic youtube videos with 20 views.
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>>177173995
I'm way ahead in my imaginary career. At the moment I'm writing my autobiography, describing the brilliancy of latter filmography. My childhood as a sensitive child, far removed from my peers by my high intellect, has had major impact on my humanistic approach to cinema. I hope my book will fully capture it.
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>>177176379
You are so fundamentally missing the point of everything I am saying that you have to be a teenager or just severely retarded. Or maybe American? I'm very happy with my filmmaking, played at a few festivals in the summer
Now please stop projecting and obsessing over success and actually just make a film if the artform is so dear to you, that is literally the sole thing I'm expressing to you and you're shitting your pants with rage. Please take some time to self-reflect and grow from this as a person
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Tony Scott is /film/.
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I dont understand why the professor disassembled his bomb
nobody said anything that shouldve stopped him
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>>177176814
you should rewatch the movie
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>>177176709
Well the only nice thing I can say on this thanksgiving day is that at the very least you are bumping the thread.
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>>177176880
not an answer
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>>177175776
>>177175990
>We will never get to watch Dreyer's Jesus film
That could have been the greatest film of all time. Nonetheless, the next 2 greatest films of all time are also by Dreyer.
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>>177165621
Um, you got a source to back that up, bucko?
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>>177177359
>source: trust me bro, i've been watching kino for over 2 months now
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>>177176814
he had a change of heart
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I disliked these. It's just the same as any other poverty and coming-of-age film(s) ever. It's terribly boring, and I couldn't care or invest or emphasize with any of the characters, they all just felt like designated "this is who you should care about" characters, which further made worse by the same rinse-and-repeat shtick of "oh no! family death!". Aggravatingly slow and meandering, and I generally have no issues with slow films, or long ones (which these are not). On a technical level, they are good, but that's it.
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>>177177770
why? he was right.
>red can take his wife and daughter to the zone and still live there
>writer can keep being a mopey bitch at his chateau
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Was it really that bad?

And was it really all it took to ruin United Artists?
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>>177173995
I made a film. Festivals rejected it. Turns out I didn't mix the sound properly when considering a booming cinema sound system.
I now have to comb through the entire film and slowly add subtitles so that I can release the film and move on with my life.
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>>177177808
it's not bad, but it lacks narrative momentum, i.e it has lots of small scenes with the main characters but it doesnt move forward the "ticking clock" premise and that's very frustrating for a 3 hour epic

UA could have easily survived the Heaven's Gate flop (they had a James Bond movie that year), but Transamerica sold them out at the first sign of trouble
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>>177168977
Reddit hates his guts.
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>>177177794
I felt them very affecting- movies and characters, quality emotional manipulation by Ray. One after the other can get tiresome tho, I atched each of three a year apart.

>>177177808
Nowadays the film is much more praised than attacked, which was really a big thing only on release. More euphoric folks even call it the m-word, but I think that's just to compensate the film maudit legend.
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>>177178046
>Turns out I didn't mix the sound properly when considering a booming cinema sound system.
What do you mean? Just loudness problems, or something more intricate?
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>>177174677
>Anyone can pick up a digital camera and make pretty pictures with it
Oh no.
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>>177178330
2 things.
The worse offender to me, that's not actually a huge deal, is that a lot of the music faded in and out very suddenly where it should have felt more gradual.
The bit that made me cringe in the cinema and that probably had a larger impact on the selection process (though doesn't matter for 99% of anyone who will ever watch it) is that there were some things that were only audible when blasted at full volume and that wouldn't be audible on a tv at normal loudness, or on headphones. This is things like some minor static/warbling and subtle sound effects.
I basically learnt the hard way that in a cinema, you can hear EVERYTHING
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>>177178553
True, it takes a rare talent to make something worthwhile with digital photography
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Always wanted to check out this Korean movie after seeing the director's other works, but have only been able to find a short vimeo clip of it.
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>>177179060
ok
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>>177176420
Why is a yuppie like you even on /film/ lmao
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>>177167026
Vertigo is average
Persona is kino but not the best Bergman
Mulholland Drive is bad
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>>177179036
whoaaa so... psychedelic.
so many... dreamlike images
its like... david lynnnch bro
gnarly
whoaaaa Richard Brody wrote a review about it
whoaaaa paul Schrader wrote a Tweet about it
WHOAAAAA Quentin Tarantino is making headlines for his opinions about it
duuuude Martin Scorsese is restoring it out of his personal collection
Maaaaaaan Robert Eggers is directing it in big budget cgi
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>>177179060
asian cinema is not /film/ esp korea niggaz want to be japan so bad
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>>177178962
I see. Thanks for the info.
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>>177179576
(film/ in a nutshell
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>>177179459
Not him but I enjoy talking with people from all walks of life
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>>177175585
I am afraid you are going to have to cope, my dear
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>>177179726
Why no Passion of the Christ? Or The Exorcist?
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why do you hate everything
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>>177179726
>the vatican made an homage to cinema picking films that reflect their religion
So what?
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>>177169030
Happen to have a MEGA?
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>>177179782
>Why no Passion of the Christ?
The list was compiled in 1995.
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>>177179803
But I don't. I love Tsai.
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>>177179803
Lack of actual personalities, gotta be a cunt online to get dopamine and (you)s.
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>>177179876
Tsui > Tsai
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>>177179803
almost everything sucks
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>>177179946
thats just your depression
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>>177179946
Let him who is without sin, cast the first stone
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>>177179782
How did you manage to look at the picture, see the list but miss the date?

>>177179678
True in the sense it nutshells the soijak posting, spamming and mental illness
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>>177179829
I'd suggest just torrenting the 1080p one on ytx, its subtitled and highly peered/seeded so it'll only take a very short time to download.
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>>177180020
Based.

A: 10
V: 10
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>>177179726
>In 1995, on the occasion of the 100th anniversary of cinema
That doesn't make much sense, unless they thought that cinema began with the work of the Lumière brothers in 1895, but there certainly were multiple motion pictures in the few years before that.
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>>177179036
lmao
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>>177180112
It was a widespread celebration in 1995. More of a symbolical date than an autistically specific one.
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>>177178962
This is why I always mix on a variety of speaker/set-ups and then verify the mix on a variety of set ups as well.
You do have a 5.1/7.1 set up, right?
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>>177180335
>You do have a 5.1/7.1 set up, right?
Err... about that.... let me get back to you... I've just got such a complicated set up that definitely isn't just a pair of headphones and a usb speaker in my room, so it's hard to explain my full set up.;;
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>>177173995
I've made 2 features and a mini-series. The first one did well, the other two kinda ruined my career. I'm working on the comeback.
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>>177180465
Jesus, and you wonder why your mix is shit….
Or maybe you don’t. But cmon man, if you’re planning on screening at large/loud set ups, you’ve gotta atleast run it through something bigger to fucking check it out, this is just common sense
I’m not even gonna ask about color correction on professional monitors
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>>177180485
more details? How would they ruin your career?
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>>177180485
What was the budget level for the features?
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>>177180517
For the record, I figured that as long as it sounded okay then it would be fine. And I was almost right.
If I had known that literally everything would be audible, I could've easily corrected those minor things.
But no, I never expected to win an award for sound mixing.
And it's funny you mention colour grading. No I didn't have a proeprly calibrated monitor. But the film looked fucking fantastic. I know that sounds arrogant as fuck but if there's one thing I did right (and semi accidentally) it was the cinematography and grading
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>>177177807
because tarkovsky values feelings over intellectualism
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>>177180538
>>177180622
I say it jokingly but it took me eight years to shoot another one after the second. The first one was very independent, self financed and did relatively well (sold it in a couple of territories, got theatrical in my home country) but I was very young and fucked up with the second. I got a bunch of money a couple of producers and made a shit film. The series was a work for hire that was badly written but I needed the money at the time so I took it. First feature was about 80k the second a little over 600k USD
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>>177180669
>figured that as long as it sounded okay then it would be fine
lol

>the film looked fucking fantastic
oh I bet…
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>>177180335
ask the guy who thinks you can make it in film by 'practicing hard enough'
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>>177180840
Self financed an 80k film- damn dude, congrats
Don’t see how any of that has ruined a career. Keep going man.
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>>177180882
You do realize anyone here claiming to be a filmmaker is full of shit right? This is the place for autists and failures.
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>>177180948
What does it matter if is factual if it speaks Truth? do you even watch films?
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>>177180992
are you drunk?
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>>177180948
Then the guy is one dedicated troll, since this is far from the first time he has mentioned his two films here.
Or, get this, not everyone here is as pathetic as you.
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>>177181036
I'm high
try getting inspired, dude.
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>>177181047
>Or, get this, not everyone here is as pathetic as you.
Doubt it
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>>177180948
Very true . these people are giving people here false hope. it's the people like max landis, seligman, chazelle, eggers, safie bros, who break into film, kids born rich to upper class jewish families with PR companies writing articles about them straight out college. an autist on /film/ can try, maybe write a script, direct something, but you will fast learn why. I worked in 10 years in film. I saw some mind blowing independent movies. one film was shot entirely in one take on a long soundstage. they all fall on deaf ears.
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>>177180843
>oh I bet…
Look man, you don't have to believe me but if there's one thing that I left the premiere feeling proud about, it was that.
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>>177181191
>one film was shot entirely in one take on a long soundstage.
Feature length? What was it called?
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>>177181191
>one film was shot entirely in one take on a long soundstage.
What's it called? Curious to check it out.
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>>177181191
you're just exposing your lack of knowledge and understanding with your post. You never made in filmmaking because you're a lazy fuck and you project your hopelessness to everybody else. I mean you're impressed by eggers and the safdies and one take films, pathetic.
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>>177181191
This.
But if you make the films, nobody can take away the satisfaction of creating art you can stand behind and be proud of (unless you fuck up the sound mix and color correction like that one guy in here)
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American Eunuchs
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>>177181302
I worked mainly in the camera department and editing. I didn't advance in my career because I'm a schizoid autist with mental illness, but I got to see how the business worked up close.
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>>177181302
He wasn’t impressed by them- did you read the fucking post or are you both illiterate AND retarded?
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>>177181577
>camera department AND editing
lol, you just shot yourself in the foot by admitting this. Two vastly different fields, if you’re jumping between them that means you’re “working” on no-budget home movie pieces of shit
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>>177181572
Why are you obsessed with them?
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>>177177808
Nah the director's cut is one of the great american films.
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>>177181750
They're my target audience
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hello im blak
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>>177165621
you forgot Eyes Wide Shut
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>>177167814
True
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>>177182116
Top 3 films?
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>>177182843
Get Out
Us
Nope
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>>177182843
yeelen
ali: fear eats the soul
django unchained
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>>177182843
who? me?
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>>177182664
Eyes Wide Shut is not on the level of those. Its recent reappraisal as a great movie is forced, due the pizzagate meme'ing around it.
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>>177183345
>Its recent reappraisal as a great movie is forced, due the pizzagate meme'ing around it.
>Mulholland Drive
LOL
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>Eyes Wide Shut is not on the level of those. Its recent reappraisal as a great movie is forced, due the pizzagate meme'ing around it.
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Just rewatched Tokyo Story, during my fall/winter Ozu watching season. This is a really great film that I really really like but I find it the weakest of the Noriko trilogy. Late Spring being the technical masterpiece while Early Summer is the most emotional and tender of the three. The last ten to fifteen minutes of Tokyo Story however have some beautiful insights and some of the best dialogue.

I'm pretty excited to move on to the color films since last year I downloaded the remux files of all the color films not released by Criterion except for Equinox Flower and the End of Summer since I found those the weakest of his color films, and did not want to sacrifice 30+ gbs when I already had about 200+ gbs of Ozu films already on my drive and it was getting maxed out. I regret it now, since I might enjoy those two films more seeing the remux versions vs. the criterion dvd copies they slapped together in the box set, which is a nice set don't get me wrong but they each deserve blu-ray releases.
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>>177185159
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>>177185299
retard
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>>177184383
>it's the spaghettinegroschizo again
Get over yourself, ffs.
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>>177185299
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>>177185159
>I find it the weakest of the Noriko trilogy
Agreed. Don’t know why it got picked as the popular one, maybe it’s the easiest for the normies to understand.
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>>177185922
That is what you look like.
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FINE- fuck ALL of you, I’m sick of asking for the remastered first and second seasons, I’ll fucking do the free 7 day trial of Mubi, watch it myself, then cancel the trial. I will NOT rip it and NOT share it with any of you here. FUCK IT!!!
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>>177186393
No one looks like this.
Meds and BBC.
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>>177186360
I personally think (at least in the last decade or so) the reason is because newer audiences first hear about this film when learning about Ozu and they hear from word of mouth it is his masterpiece and is highly regarded in elite circles. So they watch it as their first Ozu, and I'm sure people like it well enough but 1. it probably remains only one of two or three Ozu films they ever see. And 2. because of the reputation it has they probably just follow the consensus and parrot this as his best film on forums and discussions. Furthermore, the critics of old who voted this film as one of the greatest of all time only had access to so many Ozu films, so they might have missed out on large chunks of his filmography. Distribution and accessibility during older decades was certainly an issue. I honestly think Early Summer or Tokyo Twilight would have the same reputation as Tokyo Story has if those films were just as evenly distributed as Tokyo Story was back in the day.

I think for people who love Ozu and consider themselves fans, Tokyo Story is probably not their favorite. As I mentioned earlier I think Early Summer might be my all time favorite of his and I find that one the most emotionally resonant.
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>>177186437
Von Trier sucks massive dick
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>>177186561
Maybe they misread the title and think it says “Toy Story” and give it a try
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>>177186963
Lmao.
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Are you guys having sex?
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Riget I > Riget Exodus Ep. 1 >> Riget II > Riget Exodus Ep. 2 & 3 >> Riget Exodus Ep. 4 >>>>> Riget Exodus Finale

Fuck you, Lars.
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>>177186437
the remasters have been on snahp for like a day
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>>177186642
agreed, he is the 'only pretending to be retarded' meme
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>>177188247
I check there every fucking day
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Lars is mid tier. Melancholia is his greatest film. Breaking the Waves was good but forgettable. Nymphomaniac is laughable. Sorry haven't seen the rest.
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Holy fucking shit- the streaming quality on Mubi is some of the worst shit I’ve ever seen.

I cannot believe people actually fucking pay for this garbage.
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>>177190177
Amazon Prime might be even worse with their shitty UI. Looking for a film on Amazon Prime feels like shopping for toilet paper. And they have three different fucking black lives matters categories filled with shit and mediocrity. Fuck amazon.
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>>177190703
but im blakc
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>>177190872
No your name is Enward
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Good night, cocsuckers!
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Any swimmer-chads here?
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>>177192438
One of those gems you find totally unexpected, near-masterpiece
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>>177192438
This movie almost moreso than any other I have seen has a dreamlike quality that is also comfy, I honestly feel like it is one of the best American surrealist films of all time.
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>>177192827
you say near masterpiece, but I say straight masterpiece. I don't think I can name a single flaw.
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>>177192438
Better and more human than anything Lynch has done.
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>>177177794
Yeah, I have no idea what people find in movies. They're not bad, but I have a feeling no one would care about them if they were made in the US rather than India.
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Did any Britfags see Julia Holter's score of The Passion of Joan of Arc in Huddersfield on Wednesday (Or are going to the London showing tonight)? It was superb.
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>The Fabelmans — a warm, fuzzy quasi-memoir — sentimentalizes things Spielberg never before dared confront but for which he had previously found perfect, powerful, mythic analogies: the meek father and brash, immodest mother of The Sugarland Express; the isolated father of Close Encounters; the guilt-ridden father of Hook; the keys-bearing surrogate father and frantic mother of E.T.; the family at-sea in Poltergeist; the unknowable father, unfaithful mother, and wayward son of Catch Me If You Can. We already know Spielberg better than he knows himself.

>Now serving with a new light hand in The Fabelmans — without his usual dynamic swing and volleys — Spielberg leaves explication of his family story to be translated in a collaboration with Tony Kushner, the playwright whose most affecting domestic drama was the race-and-ethnicity centered Caroline, or Change, the musical Spielberg should have filmed instead of remaking West Side Story. But a soft-touch Spielberg is not Spielberg in full artistic mode. That’s why The Fabelmans seems to hedge its dramatic risks, as if muting the heartache and thousand natural shocks that marriage and adulthood are heir to, then trading that guilty consciousness for facile teasing about Spielberg’s career and professional legend.
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>>177196586

>Yet there are also two great images in The Fabelmans. The first occurs when Spielberg idealizes his initial exposure to movies. Little Sammy (played by Mateo Zoryon Francis-DeFord) dreads his parents taking him to see Cecil B. DeMille’s Greatest Show on Earth (1952), but his fear turns to excitement at DeMille’s climactic train wreck. Sammy gets inspired to make 8mm versions of the spectacle, using the Lionel train gifts he receives at Hanukkah. This Eight Trains of Hanukkah montage intermixes Jewish culture with the quick-change visual wit that distinguishes Spielberg’s craft. It’s the film’s most ethnic sequence, and it has a spiritual climax when the flickering toy-train images are projected onto the palms of Sammy’s hands. His wide, blue-eyed fascination perfectly recalls the Mecha David in A.I. Behold: the miracle of cinema art and technology.

>That awesome image is nearly matched in its surreality when the mother Mitzi (Michelle Williams) drives Sammy and his three sisters to witness an actual tornado. Mitzi’s recklessness is not necessarily an inherited trait; instead, she explains that Sammy has started making movies because “he needs to control things.” But the tornado excursion shows us something else: Sammy is enthralled when ordinary objects — a train of supermarket shopping carts — are loosed from their commonplace function and take on an otherworldly life of their own. Think of Spielberg producing Twister (1996). Then remember how mundane Americana seemed enchanted in Close Encounters.
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>>177196586
>>177196598
Based Armond making me pretty interested in checking out Spielberg in 2022, his last special film being more than 20 years ago.
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>>177195054
Yeah, I guess it's just the stereotypical circle-jerk of criterion, directors, and foreign films.
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>>177196586
>Todd Field, the Eyes Wide Shut actor turned director, specializes in movies you never want to see again — In the Bedroom, Little Children — where characters go through ugly high drama redolent of contemporary social anxiety but never so specific as to be fully recognizable. It’s usually just some hammy, broken-family psychosis. So when Cate Blanchett, the phoniest actress since Meryl Steep, teams up with Field in his latest film, Tár, the result is a histrionic wingding.

kek
spot on
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>>177192438
Based as fuck, found it accidentally years ago
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>>177180948
>This is the place for autists and failures
speak for yourself faggot
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>>177196777
>his last special film being more than 20 years ago
A.I., of course?
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>>177197259
>>177196777
The overall review is negative.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/11/spielberg-goes-easy-on-himself-in-the-fabelmans/
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>>177197259
>A.I., of course?
Yes. I seem to recall Armond liking A.I.
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What are the best Chabrol movies? He has so many i don't know what to pick. For the reference I prefer french gangster movies and thrillers like diaboliques over Godard/Truffaut commie waffling
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>>177197538
Your days are numbered, capitalist pig
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>>177197538
>I prefer french gangster movies and thrillers like diaboliques over Godard/Truffaut commie waffling
based
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>>177196586
>>177196598
he was once good but became a boring contrartian, only his praise of Dumont is admirable now
and even in his contrarianism he is right it's still nothing special to shit on some of these movies
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>>177198606
>muh dumont
booooring, get some new material
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.
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I'm so fucking tired. I want to watch kinos all day but I am just sooo sleeeepy. I don't feeeeeel like it. I ain't gonna watch the Best Years of Our Lives just cause it dropped on Cassie's patreon :eyes:
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Tsai's latest Walker film is titled 'Where' and it's 91 minutes long. There is now until the end of the year an exhibition of Tsai's work at the Centre Pompidou in Paris, where the new film is also shown. It stars both Lee Kang-sheng and Anong Houngheuangsy.

https://www.centrepompidou.fr/en/magazine/article/tsai-ming-liang-infatigable-arpenteur-du-cinema
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Cassie? Who?
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>>177201138
Some woman on YouTube who reacts to movies. Simps gonna simp.
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>>177201249
Popcorn in Bed
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>>177189774
>Melancholia is his greatest film
Lmfao, retard white boy with """"""depression"""""" detected
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>>177201138
Wholesome tradwife to get comfy and watch kinos with
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>>177201516
>social media whore
>wholesome and "trad"
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>>177201981
She's different
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>>177168637
I've watched Enter The Void and Climax both on shrooms. Should I keep the tradition going with this one?
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>>177202039
That's why I like her. Reaction channels are not my thing, I don't care for them at all, but she's definitely different.
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>>177202039
>>177202131
>falling for the façade
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>>177202144
She's so naive that she dropped racial and genital slurs in her videos because she didn't know what they meant.
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>>177173995
I work in the film industry and have money
But I haven't shot my own stuff in over a year, I'm fixing that
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>>177202413
Working on a short or what? How's it going?
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>>177202413
Not in Hollywood though, right?
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>>177202440
>>177202482
No, it is being shot in a coal mine in Arkansas. The subject of the film is the demolition of a public library that was then replaced by a Chuck E. Cheese back in the early 80s.
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Any of you here like Yugoslav cinema?
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>>177202440
Shot some establishing shots yesterday
>>177202482
No, Texas.
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>>177204079
I should mention I work for Hollywood productions, just not there
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>>177204650
link your imdb
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>>177203757
I know Kusturica and Makaveyev, any other good directors?
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>>177203757
Talk to me about Yugoslav cinema, what's so special about it? I don't mean that in a snarky way I just literally no nothing about it.
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Why would anyone do this? You buy one film, you’re already getting them all.
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>>177205391
In another place is his best movie because of the sexy white lady who masterbates to cum tissues but it is also shite
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>>177205391
Remember I watched a remux of one of his most recent films (don’t remember which)- while I respect his desire to shoot with cheap cameras, the quality of the footage was fucking horrendous. And not in a cool lo-fi way, there was just ugly noise everywhere, contrast was disgusting, etc. That typical “cheap digital” look.
If it didn’t have his name attached, there’s no way it would pass as releasable.
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>>177201516
I fantasize about her reproductive organs
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>>177197259
>everything Kubrick touches is the goat film of all time!!!

Minority Report is the far better film. Spielberg trying to be important has always been cringy as fuck.
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>>177206097
A.I. is a good as it precisely because it's more Spielbergian than Kubrickian. It needed his more emotional perspective to that story. And Minority Report is also excellent, that was a another golden period for the man.
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what are the hot redhead actresses, I'm doing AI art actresses x spice and wolf
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>>177206565
hollywood notoriously hates redheads. They' mess with audience's heads. Same reason why only plain looking flat chested girls make it. Guys want to fuck them, and girls despise them with jealousy. If you want red heads you need to stay on BBC interracial videos the natural haven for red head girls.
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>>177207121
flat chested andro tomboy girls like daisy ridley become the stars now because girls find them harmless and guys don't really feel attracted to them.

you get a big titted little redhead, and women chimp out
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>>177201095
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
I'm interested in The Moon And The Tree from the last year tho, but it's not up anywhere yet
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>>177206565
Gillian Anderson
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>it's the end of the year
>Pacifiction STILL not up on torrents
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>>177207121
I have never seen a redhead with a nig outside of porn before. I have only seen redhead girls date white or Asian.
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>>177206565
Maureen O'Hara
Rita Hayworth
Raquel Welch
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Any Anons have a list of Ozu remux files. Can't find some on rutracker.
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>>177208931
asian cinema isn't /film/ best they can do is copy the emotions western films have.
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>>177209050
go back to worshipping blacks you stupid mutt
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Remux is a meme, just like FLAC
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>>177209086
Blacks have at least done important things for art, such as invent jazz music. Asians only achievement is creating chinese restaurant orange chicken.
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wtf Sono got cancelled? will there ever be any more sonokinos
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>>177209544
What the hell are you doing here, my little felony fairy, the KFC is that way -->
But for real listen here bullet bag, your kind is only good for raping. You get raped by the Belgians, and now you get raped by us Chinese, it's just what you do, you're a slave class and nothing will change that. Doesn't matter how much cope you come up, inventing jazz music, doing important things for art, whatever it is you think makes you special, just remember that now matter how accomplished you think you are, you are still just a nigger.
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>>177210016
Haha bitch make my egg roll stupid fool. Black is here to stay. The future is black. Dont forget it.
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love me some asian pussy. your japanese women just cant resist that love of bbc
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>>177210255
>>177210283
lmao do the right thing is like the only film you nigs have to claim as kino. Keep listening to your jazz music while for another century you live under the thumb of another colonizer race.
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>>177207967
Should've watched it in the cinemas.
>>177209637
No, there won't be anymore Sonotrash thankfully.
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>>177167468
Archive.org
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>>177197712
>>177198502
Thanks for all the helpful suggestions, I finally decided on the Isabelle Huppert one
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>>177167479
Ur moms pants
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>>177209637
He got cancelled the same way Reygadas got cancelled, no one gave a fuck.
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>>177198703
The peak of cinema is Philip Groning, Nic Roeg, and Jan Svankmajer.

1. Groning
2. Svankmajer
3. Roeg
4. Zhangke
5. Reygadas
6. Dumont
7. Eustache
8. Nick Park
9. David Lynch
10. Breillat
11. Verhoeven
12. Herzog

Presently, I'm interested in the other Oshii films and Jodo.
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>>177214145
zzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzz
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>>177214145
Zia Zhangke, da Manke
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rip you big beautiful bastards hahahahahahaha the thread is sinking she is sinking good night sweet princes may thee angels sing thee to thy rest.
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Long live Tsai!



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