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Is it really the greatest western ever made, even better than Good Bad and Ugly?
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>>170023536
Other than the main story I think the characters are far weaker than they are in TGTBTU that just builds wonderfully to the finale which it earns and it never feels its length.
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you tell me
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>>170023536
It is great, that's for sure. I can't tell which one is better, but I came here to recommend "Lonesome Dove" to any western movie fan. It's not that well know, so you could miss that one.
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>>170023536
The scene at the bar with the lantern was great. That's pretty much all I remember about it though.
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>>170023536
Few dollars more > good, bad, ugly > fistful of dollars
All kino though
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>>170023536
The Wild Bunch shits all over it
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No spaghettishit is the best western ever made, fuck your Spanish countrysides, fuck your shitty tower of babylon dubbing that never matches their mouths, and fuck your gray morality bullshit
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was Clint supposed to play harmonica or frank?
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>>170023609
Pure unfiltered kinography
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>>170023751
zzzzzzz
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>>170023536
Maybe, maybe not.
Harmonica > Blondie though. Indubitably
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>>170024000
Neither, he was supposed to be one of the 3 thugs that wait at the station and get killed at the beginning.
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>>170023536
Effy outfit. Where to cop the guy in the right jean?
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>>170023609
Damn, that Kino camera. Way ahead of its time
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>>170024204
just wait till you hear the music that's accompanying it
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>>170024160
I read that, but I've also read that he was also offered the role of harmonica
would it have been extra kino if he played harmonica or is bronson way better?
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dumb wop film. ofc sergio knows nothing of the west
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Quick and the Dead is Raimi Kino
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Watching the film halfway through and they never tell who this harmonica guy is wtf
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Lee Van Cleef > Charles Bronson

don't @ me
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I like Shane. A true classic, never gets old.

The most underrated western is probably "Union Pacific" directed by Cecile B Demile
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>>170023536
>Blocks your path

>>170024158
Also based. Trad Westerns > Spaghetti Westerns
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*blocks your path*
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>>170024442
shocking ending
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>>170023536
tgtbtu was dogshit 2bh
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>>170023536
No, TGTBTU was as much Hollywood as Leone westerns needed. Despite how insanely artificial Leone was I never got even a fleeting sense it was phony like a Tarantino movie until Once Upon a Time.
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Claiming any spaghetti western the goat is pseudocore.
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>>170023536
The true greatest western ever made coming through
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Franco Nero walking out of the desert dragging a coffin behind him while his theme song plays is the kinoest western image of all for me
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>>170024392
>Trad Westerns

ala films that don’t resemble the west at all
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>>170023751
Robert Duvall was so fun in westerns
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>>170024545
WELL YA GONNA PULL THOSE PISTOLS OR WHISTLE DIXIE?
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>>170023842
On my last rewatch I decided once and for all and without hesitation that each movie in the trilogy was better than the last. But maybe because I heard it too often I prefer the theme for A Few Dollars More than TGTBTU. At least if I ask myself what I'd rather listen to right now I know how good Eccstasy of Gold is
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>>170024605
I liked him in the LD so much. I liked the Tommy Lee Jones too, but damn, couldn't he SERIOUS SPOILER give his son his name?
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>>170023609
You couldn't film this duel today without random explosions on the background
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>>170024579
quentins tops it, easily
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>>170023536
Based harmonica
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>>170023842
I think Few Dollars More has the best individual scenes that stand out in your memories like the baby murder and the music box showdown but TGTBGU is a better overall watch.
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>>170024442
Only correct answer.
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>>170024763
>gun facing way below the first shot
>gun facing way above the second shot
kinda sloppy ngl
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>>170024545
the correct answer
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>>170024883
>kinda sloppy ngl
thats why its good
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>>170024255
I don't think it would have changed anything at all.
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>>170023536
This movie is great, but it’s not as good as TGTBATU
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>>170024702
>>170024861
I think tgtbatu is technically a better movie than fistful but it basically turns into a war movie for an hour and that kinda drags it down for me. As a random observation I think Eastwood's character is best in the first movie even though it's the weakest otherwise
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>>170024861
It's an uncommom but not entirely contrarian view so it's very popular here (because it makes you seem interesting or something?) even if most people prefer TGTBTU but all of the movies are amazing so no option feels wrong. As long as it's Italian. Western at its best.
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>>170023609
He look like my grandfather
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>>170024545
>You a bounty hunter?
>Man's got to do something for a livin these days.
>Dyin ain't much of a livin, boy.
Such a fantastic movie
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>>170024745
Was great in Open Range as well (that movie has the best gunshot audio of any western ever).
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>>170024119
Harmonica was some autistic faggot that played his little harmonica in every wrong place. Truly a assburger. Clint's charters on the other hand were actually witty though introverted. A real model for a man.
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>>170024911
>it's good cuz it's bad
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>>170025441
Downloading that now, cheers anon
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>>170024596
and movies filmed in Spain do? lmao
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>>170025577
sloppy =/= bad

he intentionally used giant squibs, like in robocop
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>>170023536
nope, this is
it wouldn't be in a vacuum though
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>>170023536
Other than the start of the movie which is kino of the highest order. I found it dragged a little bit. GBU holds onto you a bit better and I find the characters alot more fleshed out
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>>170023997
Settle down Pilgrim
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>>170024392
Haven't heard of this one, I'll check it out. Pic related is really good I watched it last week
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>>170025580
Enjoy, anon. It is slow at first, but when it eventually gets to it the shootout is one of the best I've seen in the last 30-40 years. In the interim Duvall does Duvall things and it's nice.
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It has a strong opening and ending, but the middle is lack lustre. TGTBATU mogs it
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>>170025777
It was Duncan Shepherd's favorite movie, fwiw. Old middle-billing studio western; nothing fancy in it, but it is just good all around.
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>>170024605
Open range is a pretty underrated modern western imo.
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>>170023608
The characters are fine but the actors are not, these are Leone's original actors he wanted for the Clint trilogy.
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>>170024911
Quentin can't think of anything besides one revenge, two negro power fantasy.
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>>170026179
thats all blaxpotatinos are, so
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>>170025441
That's a great watch, good aesthetics for a modern western.
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>>170023536
Not realistic, not relatable, and therefore one doesn't feel a visceral emotion. As kinetic cinema, it's a failure. As a masterpiece of craft, it's unparalleled. Pace was sacrificed because the images and themes lend themselves to longer contemplation. It's as though Leone made a film to frogmarch his pleb fans into more serious visual art. A vast painting, disguised as a genre product and smuggled into market.
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Duck you sucker
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>>170024763
Why can't computa get those blood splatter and mist ever right? Looking at that, even if it's badly acted and filmed, the energy and power of the shots is all there.
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>>170023536
>even better than Good Bad and Ugly?
yeah no
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>>170023751
I think this might be the greatest Western piece of art in general.
Lonesome Dove is so brimming with soul and characters and their motivations and Robert Duvall is so incredible.
It may not kingraphic moments as good as this >>170023609 but overall it is a far superior story and better characters.

I love this movie.
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>>170026301
>Why can't computa get those blood splatter and mist ever right?
theyre fine, actually
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>>170024269
Just watched this yesterday, and it was fun, but it's a goofy movie with some really hammy moments and effects that are fun, but don't allow me to take it seriously. Sharon Stone's whole character and performance is pretty bad compared to everyone else's. The Protagonist shouldn't be so forgettably bad and cringe.
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>>170025611
This is my favorite as well
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>>170024348
>Lee Van Cleef
only remembered because of his association to Clint Eastwood
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>>170025890
But now to the pièce de résistance. It is always risky to designate as a personal favorite a movie not seen in decades. The very designation is inherently slippery. Such a movie is asked to hold the hill against the challenges of dozens, hundreds, a thousand. And any one movie can do only so much. No one movie can civilize a desert island. So let me first remove the burdensome designation and then say simply that I was amazed at how well I remembered every foot of From Hell to Texas, that I have now watched the DVD of it three times, and that the movie comes as close to perfection, in a certain bygone Hollywood tradition, as a movie can come. Admittedly it falls short of perfection when the hero, to appease the attacking Comanches, cuts loose two horses tied to the back of the rumbling covered wagon, and then in the next scene rides into Socorro astride one of the horses he had cut loose. (Is there a missing scene that might account for this? The running time of the DVD comes up a few minutes shy of the official 100.)

A manhunt Western, plainly titled Manhunt in Great Britain, it begins in medias res, with six riders, behind a shielding herd of horses, descending upon a lone cowpoke and his lame mount. The cowpoke, pumping his Winchester into the ground, turns the herd against the riders, one of whom is trampled to the sill of death’s door and not long afterward crosses the threshold. It all gets sorted out in short order. The cowpoke has been blamed for the knifing death of a man at a schoolhouse dance. The casualty of the stampede was the dead man’s brother. A third brother remains standing, a punkish Dennis Hopper. Their father, R.G. Armstrong in the performance of his life, is a self-made land baron, first name of Hunter, who now heads up the avenging posse: “That saddle tramp has come close to washing my mark out.” We also find out firsthand that this saddle tramp, while he wears no six-gun, is a crack shot with a rifle.
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>>170024255
Based both ways. Who can say who would have been better. Godson does well.
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>>170024545
Incredibly good movie.
Tombstone is better though.
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>>170026603
Of the initial killing we have only his account — that the victim fell on his own knife — and we have no cause to disbelieve him. He’s as decent a man as ever rode the West, a soft-speaking, Bible-reading pacifist who has been searching since his mother’s death for his long-lost father, striving always to be guided by the Ten Commandments. If a nubile tomboy impudently strips off in front of him to bathe in the river, he’ll demurely turn his back. Don Murray, a conscientious objector during the Korean War, is excruciatingly touching in the part (seldom more so than when he is introduced to a California orange: “What do I do with it?”), and the enigmatic convent-bred Diane Varsi, already twice divorced as a teenager in real life and soon to be a contract-breaking Hollywood dropout, is hardly less touching as the tomboy on the brink of womanhood. Their mutual longing in their reunion scene has a nakedness that practically cries out for an “R” rating.
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>>170026559
So what? We're judging by what normalfags remember now?
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>>170026643
As events unfold, infused with the American love of the underdog and hatred of the tyrant (“Wherever this man goes,” puzzles our Hunter, “somebody turns a hand to help him. They don’t even know him. Why?”), we can see the sowing of the seeds of a local legend, and yet nothing is overblown or overdrawn as it’s happening, nothing outgrows its moment. It just keeps moving steadily ahead, the right shot in the right place for the right duration, with nice rhythmical variation in angle and distance, nothing fancy, nothing stressed too heavily, never even one true closeup in the entire movie, and any extra shots noticeably retarding the tempo and concentrating the attention: as when, in an ingeniously strategic gunfight indelibly punctuated with the sound of cocking rifles, an ambusher forces the hero in self-defense to violate the Sixth Commandment (“That don’t pleasure me none,” he deflects congratulations), or when, immediately thereafter, he can’t bring himself to kill the ambusher’s tag-along horse. The questing fatherless hero gets a taste of different types of father figure — the merciless punisher; the benevolent protector, a folksy Chill Wills, who looms as a potential father-in-law; and lastly the padre, earthly delegate of the Heavenly Father, who can show him to his natural father’s grave — but the psychology is stressed no more heavily than anything else. It’s present, if only in passing. This is a self-effacing, straight-shooting, ammo-conserving style of filmmaking I treasure and mourn: picking the shots, making them count. Conciseness refined into classicism, craft elevated into art.
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>>170023536
I might prefer High Noon, Rio Bravo and The Searchers.
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>>170026643
I can recollect — I don’t expect you will — that I wrote some years ago about the melodramatic boiling point when the fugitive, horrified that the prospective father-in-law has taken three bullets for him, suddenly stops running and reverses course to confront his final three pursuers in the streets of Socorro. The remarkable upshot is a shootout that lasts over five minutes, fully satisfying as a piece of action filmmaking, a working of angles, a covering of space, a shifting of positions, a teetering of advantage, and yet — you would never imagine in an adult Western — no one gets killed! What the shootout finally settles is the superior humanity of the hero, to the diminishment and mortification of the black hat. The latter’s beseeching effort to save face in the denouement (a beautiful speech beautifully delivered, almost poetically: “Long after we’re dead, you and me both, they’ll be telling this story. And they’ll tell it in a dozen different ways. None of them will favor me...”) is the icing on top. I would not want to have bitten the dust without getting to see this movie again. And again and again.
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>>170026559
The Big Gundown
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>>170026603
>>170026643
>>170026684
>>170026730
(sorry about forgetting to greentext; anyways, FHTT is a great and unsung movie. Definitely worth watching)
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>>170023751
It is great but I wish we got Bogdanovich’s version where he wanted to cast John Wayne, James Stewart and Henry Fonda in it. But they were old and turned it down.
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>>170024290
that's by design though. frank is dying to know. the movie is intentionally plodding along to make the audience stew in dying-to-know as well. and the movie gets away with it because the final resolution is fantastic. it's worth every minute of the wait.
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>>170024596
>ala films that don’t resemble the west at all
That point have been addressed and discarded as irrelevant by grandmaster Ford himself in The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance. Spoilers: it's like saying Star Wars is dogshit because it doesn't follow Newtonian physics. That's beside the point, it's all about the human side of the story instead.
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Personally, I think most anons claim that
>spaghetti western are da best evar!!!
only because they haven't watched like more than 2 classic Hollywood western
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>>170024763
nope
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>>170024442
I don't like westerns but I loved this
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>>170027034
It's more that they've only seen the films directed by someone named "Sergio" and don't realize that 99% of spaghetti westerns are utter dogshit
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>>170026216
Interesting take.
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>>170023536
No, Tombstone is
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>>170027168
I like them because they're bad in an endearing way, just like Italian horror and giallos
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>>170024861
>Few Dollars More
This. Is the best of the 3
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>>170023536
it has the greatest scene in all westerns but its not the greatest western of all time
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>>170027736
Is this when Harmonica is commenting on the railroad?
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>>170027638
Mario Bava is a god
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>>170023536
Yes.
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>>170023536
Duck you Sucker is better
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>>170024469
No u.
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>>170027933
The scene where they discussed what they are and what they aren't is one of the most kino scenes in cinema.
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>>170026243
>>170028030
Good but Bullet for a General is a better Mexican political western
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>>170023842
I agree with this assessment
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the best western movie is subjective
the best western TV show isn't
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I don't think this is the best western ever made (that's probably The Searchers), but it's my favorite
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>>170028443
Agreed and the best western TV series is Pic Related
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>>170028525
go back
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>>170028547
shut up faggot
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>>170028547
>liking 90s adventure shows is reddit now
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>>170028618
Yes, don't you newfags get the trend yet?
4chan is already at the 60's and going earlier
reddit is now up to the 80s-90s
once 4chan hits the 30s reddit will be at the same level 4chan is now
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>>170028443
Have you ever listened to the Gunsmoke radio show? It's fucking great, they toned the material way down when they adapted it for television. In the radio show there's no mystery about Miss Kitty being a whore, and the gunfights are more brutal. For the Christmas episode in the first season, they had Matt get lost in a blizzard on the way back from transporting a prisoner, he ends up finding this cabin where two men and a woman are holed up. He slowly comes to realize these men are strangers to the woman, have taken her hostage, and have been raping the shit out of her all winter. One of the men is described as having a skin condition which makes him look reptilian. Again, this is the Christmas episode.
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Actually, best western is pic related.
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I will keep posting this until someone actually watches it.
Best since Unforgiven. Has a lot of callbacks to both Unforgiven and Assassination of Jesse James.
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>>170028814
shit ending and the zoomer kid ruined it
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>>170028814
It's very good, although they give away the twist a little too early if you know your Old West history
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>>170028782
couldnt get into Gunsmoke cuz the MC isn't fast or badass enough
stopped at episode 1
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>>170026407
based kek
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obligatory western thread post
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>>170028897
Try the radio show, the whole series is on archive.org, maybe skip the pilot episode. The Matt Dillon from the radio show is way different from the television show, it's hinted that he has a shady criminal past several times and he's pretty brutal with outlaws.
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>>170028814
It was okay, no one mentions it because it doesn't have the makings of a classic and no one will remember it 10 years from now, probably not even you if you watch other westerns in the mean time and realise they made them before the 90s
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>>170028717
no, summerfag. 30s to roughly 1964 is one big era, the one of the big production companies, first black and white, later technicolor, but the style remains the same. the 70s, however, is the era of edgy eastman color movies, aka mostly low production value shit. we recognize phases within that era but it's not really 1939 western versus 1954 western, they're too alike.
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>>170028814
ah yes, the unforgiven and sergio leone, the edgy western starter pack is now complete.
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>>170024158
The correct answer.
TEN THOUSAND CATTLE GONE ASTRAY LEFT MY RANGE AND TRAVELED AWAY
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>>170023842
you know what I can respect this
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>>170029494
PUTA
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>>170023536
yes it is
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>>170028985
>nigger worshipping faggot conducts an interview
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>>170025441
I can third, very kino movie.
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>>170029722
cucking your brother isn't cool
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So this was done unironically as to troll impatient plebs, right? Because it's ridiculously drawn out and boring.
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>>170026791
damn never heard of that, i never liked fonda that much but i would have loved to see wayne an stewart doin it
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>>170028795
kek
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>>170029494
Why couldn't he save her?
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For a Few Dollars More is better than TGTBTU.
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>>170029751
especially if he's all PTSD'd out and it was natalie portman
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>>170024958
Do you think he could have worked as Frank? Everyone raves about the shock of the Fonda reveal - as a zoomer who has never seen any Fonda kino, I don't think I can appreciate the heel turn as much as most. But would it have had that same power if after the massacre, the camera came up to reveal our boy Clint?
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Lonesome Dove and Deadwood are my tops for western kino
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>>170024545
>I wore this frock coat in Washington, before the war. We wore them because we belonged to the five civilized tribes. We dressed ourselves up like Abraham Lincoln.
>We only got to see the Secretary of the Interior, and he said: "Boy! You boys sure look civilized.!" he congratulated us and gave us medals for looking so civilized. We told him about how our land had been stolen and our people were dying.
>When we finished he shook our hands and said, "endeavour to persevere!" They stood us in a line: John Jumper, Chili McIntosh, Buffalo Hump, Jim Buckmark, and me - I am Lone Watie. They took our pictures. And the newspapers said, "Indians vow to endeavour to persevere."
>...
>"We thought about it for a long time. 'endeavour to persevere!' When we thought about it long enough, we declared war on the Union."
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KINO
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>>170023609
What's the original aspect ratio? Surely this is cutting off a lot of what the director intended to be in the shot
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>>170028814
The digital blood spoils it for me. If you're gonna have a grand finale shootout, spend a little extra and get real blood and squibs.
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>>170030086
https://youtu.be/0MM8hVFMYr0
leone just liked close ups
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>>170030044
on the one hand hellyeah fuck the feds
on the other quit being so fuckin pathetic lol
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>>170029769
clearly worked on you
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>>170024000
Harmonica I think. Clint should have been in it. He said he regrets not taking part in the film.
Would have made it perhaps the best Western film if it had Clint in it as a way to continue the Legends of the West meta series Leone was crafting.
I know none of them are supposed to be related per se, but they don’t have anything stopping their continuity if they were portrayed as various Western Tales told in mixed array.
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>>170030128
Yeah, but who are the people reformatting the aspect ratio
Theater screens weren't that wide decades ago, right?
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>>170030269
>clint as harmonica
im not sure how i feel about this
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Having Henry Fonda walk out, smile and shoot a kid in the face blew people's minds back then. I can't really think of a current day equivalent because everything is so cynical now.
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>>170023871
The patrician's choice of Western
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>>170030388
>shoot a kid in the face
>but people NOW are cynical
lol wut
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>>170030388
what are some other must watch Fonda kinos?
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>>170029624
based duke triggering morons even in the 21st century
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>>170024763
diagnosis: picrel
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>>170030429
Not him, but the point is it wouldn't be shocking today, because we're used to 'le bad man killing children because fuck it he is bad,' whereas back when OUATITW came out (1) Henry Fonda wasn't thought of as a bad guy, and (2) even your villains generally weren't straight-up child murderers.
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>>170030432
If you want more Western kino try My Name is Nobody, though that's more lighthearted. He co-stars with Terence Hill.
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>>170023807
one of the coolest scenes ever put to film, almost shat myself watching it
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>>170023536
Yes
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>>170030432
More than you can count:
>My Name is Nobody
>Jesse James
>Return of Frank James
>The Ox-Bow Incident (fucking kino)
>My Darling Clementine (best OK Corral version)
>Fort Apache (part of the Ford trilogy)
>Warlock
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For me it's The Wild Bunch.
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>>170030733
I think it's possible he can count to seven, anon
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>>170030641
But his role as Jack Beauregard recalls Frank, except in a way more sympathetic way. The aging gunslinger.
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>Americans are so stupid that the bad guy had to wear dark clothes and the hero lighter ones.
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>>170024545
Reckon so...
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>>170030814
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>>170030794
>imagine being this new here
Possible? Yes. Likely? No.
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>No mention of Cheyenne
Load of Judases.
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>>170030838
Death isn't the villain in seventh seal tho
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>>170028985
Laugh at his acting, being out of shape, Genghis Khan, boomer icon reputation whatever, this interview was not only 100% correct but incredibly relevant today decades after his death
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>>170030871
>the ending
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>>170023536
westerns is a real tough genre to pick a best. josey wales, searchers, professionals, trinity, wild bunch, open range - the list is fucking long. i'm having trouble picking my favorite 5.
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>>170030838
Dr. Pavel, I'm R.I.P.
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>>170030871
What if cheyenne was played by clint?
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Appaloosa wasn't the best, but I thought Viggo always nailed the best look. He just oozed style.
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wouldn't say it's one of the greatest but i still really enjoyed seraphim falls
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>>170030871
If he hadn't been gutshot he could have pounded that redhead puss for the next four decades, what a shame.
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jj is also a great
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>>170031076
Wouldn't work, Clint was too young and can't do garrulous characters like Robards could
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>>170031095
too bad the cuck and the whore ruined that movie
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https://youtu.be/8NiyBzjfGi4
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The western genre needs more US Indian Wars stories about US Cavalry dragoons stationed in isolated frontier forts dealing with migrating settlers and Indian tribe resettlements and uprisings.

There's an old radio show I like called Fort Laramie that has an episode called The Massacre about the protagonist Captain Quince trying to diplomatically oversee the passage of this particular tribe through the territory he over sees with the local settlers and against this rival US commander who's a fanatical preacher and Indian killer who collects scalps and wears them on his belt. It's only a half hour so a lot would have to be added to it

https://youtu.be/b_9bxV6tSFY
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in the original script. the introduction shot was supposed to have been from under the stairs, showing that she wasnt wearing any panties. probably alluding to how she was a whore. i'm not even joking.
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>>170031524
>>170023536
Shit this reminded me, my fav is dances with wolves and no I don't care how many faults it has.
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>>170031524
With that said, Custer of the West is my favorite US Indian Wars movie. It's not historically accurate at all, but it has my absolute favorite depiction of General Custer in any form of media. Robert Shaw gives the character a great deal of depth where I've found most other depictions just caricatures. Custer is one of the greatest American folk heroes in my opinion, his death was really the beginning of the end of the old west
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>>170023997
Leones movies are an exception, even John Ford noted how good Leones movies were in a letter
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>>170025595
robocops dont look like shit, not really the same is it
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>>170031799
still one of my faves too anon
i also really love the old jimmy stewart westerns
>Bend of the River
>The Far Country
>Winchester '73
>The Man From Laramie
>Feivel Goes West
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>>170028240
god i hate you so much
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjR7_U2u3sM
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>>170031967
based
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>>170031967
cant believe vince stole this scene
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>>170030388
Honestly maybe Tom hanks
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>>170023536
For me it's Heaven's Gate
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>>170023536
why is cheyenne so wholesome?
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>>170023609
kino
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>>170024442
The guy who played Silence died last week. RIP.
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>>170032301
isn't he a rapist

also why did it film the rape scene like it was supposed to be romantic

fucking boomer era was wild
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>>170032364
>rape

Fonda fucked the big boobie italian lady not cheyenne right?
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>>170023609
damn, the bay-shot before its time, very nice
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>>170023807
>The scene at the bar with the lantern was great. That's pretty much all I remember about it though.
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>>170023609
>>170032436
>Frank's theme comes on slowly
>as soon as harmonica comes into the shot, the guitar riff starts


KINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>170032489
it's just not the same without the music
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>>170032552
>frank has the sun in his eyes
>is looking nervous
>is unable to maintain eye contact
>cut to harmonica
>eyes fixed on frank
>a faint smirk on his lips
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>>170032552
>harmonica always slides into frame
kino
i made a webm a couple of years back
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spaghetti western is just euro anime
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>>170032606
do you think that Harmonica intentionally copied that shit eating smirk from Frank?
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>>170032656
and?
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>>170030086
jesus stop this redditor obsession with full frame
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>>170032364
kys zoomer and get humanity over with already
watching you pussies is just embarrassing
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>download the movie because of this thread
>click the file just to check the quality
>im now 40 minutes in and i've already clapped and yelled out in kino twice
>especially when the music kicks in when the young boy discovers his family has been annihilated
its a good film
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>>170032656
first capeshit now anime
what's next?
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>>170023609
Anyone got the hanging scene. The zoom out was one of the best things I've ever seen.
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>>170032816
no but ive got this
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>>170024702
I like FAFDM the best because the characters hit harder for me. The Colonel/Indio arc carries far more weight than anything in GBU (although Tuco seeing his brother comes close)
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>>170023609
Jesus fuck, what went wrong with modern directors? They grew up watching this stuff and they CAN'T deliver something as great as this shot.
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>>170032606
i like when authors make fun of themselves
>harmonica laughs at frank from being so far away
this isn't tgtbatu
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>>170023536
No mention of 3:10 to Yuma? I liked both movie versions.
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>>170032773
check the rest of the trilogy
it gets better
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>>170032838
>>170032816
>Harmonica stares into frank
>Young Frank puts the harmonica into his mouth and it's suddenly young harmonica
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>>170027933
Talking to Frank about guys coming to kill him

>Harmonica : So, you found out you're not a businessman after all.
>Frank : Just a man.
>Harmonica : An ancient race...
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>>170032896
for me it was the POW camp torture scene and Tuco meeting his brother
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For a few dollars more is da best
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bronson was cooler than eastwood
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>>170024442
>subverts traditional westerns values and instead goes for anti capitalist message
Sounds gay as fuck
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>>170024442
wasnt there a special type of pistol in this film?
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>>170024763
>it’s a collage
Kill yourself
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No
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>>170033250
Just a Mauser.
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>>170024442
>Kinski
based and spaghetti-western-pilled
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>>170030408
based taste
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>>170023751
>>170026422
Shit I like westerns and I've never heard about it. Sell it to me, what's it about?
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>>170028547
suck my dick
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>once upon a time in the west thread
>237 replies
why is /tv/ so patrician today?
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>>170031881
>robocops dont look like shit,
but they are sloppy af, just like quentins, so frick off
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>>170033573
For you
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Jill was fucking HOT
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>>170033588
he's probably a sub90 IQ brainlet


how the fuck can people still be filtered by fucking tarantino then he states again and again the purpose of his films
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>>170033573
/tv/ threads that will always be kino and BTFO tastelets:

>Conan threads
>Predator threads
>Western threads
>The Thing threads
>Cameron threads
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>>170033991
you forgot boat kino/M&C threads
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>>170034048
master and commander is reddit sorry
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>>170034048
fugg..also Sharpe threads
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>>170034072
41% ys
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>>170032656
Whats the context of that gif?
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>>170034072

fuck off nigger
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>>170032914
They aren't artists. They're just functions. Thats my theory anyway.
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any of my western bros watch godless? never really saw anyone talked about it.
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>>170033004
Thanks. Been a while since I've watched them. I think my dvd copies got scratched of Once and GTU
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>>170023609
Holy fuck.
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>>170023536
tombstone is the greatest western ever made, it has been long enough since the release that people should start to accept this. cosmatos was a genius and not enough people appreciate his work.
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>>170033865
This. Really lends the film rewatchability imo.
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>>170033522
Robert Duvall and Tommy Lee Jones are two old fart Texas Rangers, living relics of an already nearly passing age of the wild west. They are old friends but exactly opposite in temperament.
They've been rotting in the small town of Lonesome Dove, Texas, for decades, but decide after an old comrade shows up to take a cattle herd up north to Montana, as according to their somewhat drifter it is supposedly virginal prime cattle grazing territory and they could make a killing and go on one last adventure.

That's the main plot, but there's about 3 or 4 others.
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>>170023609
love the subtlety of this scene too
Frank/Henry Fonda's body language in contrast to harmonica was perfect
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>>170034072
Really? We got a Jonas in this boat lads?
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>>170034408
i don't want to chime and be one of those dweebs who are like VAL KILMER DELIEVERED THE GREATEST PERFORMANCE OF ALL TIME but goddamn val kilmer is brilliant in that movie.
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>>170034461
alright, gonna torrent it, thanks
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>>170034099
>>170034147
>>170034494
>muh practical effecs
check
>popcorn action for the masses
check
>gerbils quotable meme line
check

yeah, its reddit alright
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>>170034562
meh diligaf
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>>170032914
art is a crapshoot
art is hit and miss

according to 3 algorithms, 17 advisors, our 4 directors, 8 screenwriters, and 2 boards of executives, our picture has a 98% chance of returning its investment in the first week, with the international market and china after removing deliberately placed (for free social media advertisement) liberal scenes of homosexual/ queer intent, we are looking for a possible return of 1B dollars in the first quarter.
and then they clapped

And if they fuck up, there are too many people to point fingers at, so no one gets fired for failing. People only get fired for being in opposition to the system.
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>>170024442
Absolute fucking LUDOKINO. Just ridiculously good and Kinski is incredible, which says a lot considering I think he's generally quite overrated
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>>170034048
i refuse to wacth this ntil they make the sequel with the kraken. Then i'll watch them back to back
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>>170034408
>cosmatos was a genius and not enough people appreciate his work
If he had actually directed Tombstone, you might have a claim to make there. But it's well known that Cosmatos didn't know what the hell he was doing and Kurt Russell stepped up to take his place (and minimized his own role as Wyatt Earp to give more time to his costars and to be able to take on the directing responsibilities).
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>>170034904
Watch The Terror.
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>>170035222
You've got it wrong. Cosmatos was brought in after they fired Jarre. He and Kurt were essentially co-directors.
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>>170031469
No, she was there to show how great of a friend Viggo's character is.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIXzzhpx8n4
I like it when the violence is just mundane. Nothing flashy, it's just pow, pow, someone's dead.
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>>170023609
this webm alone is infinitely better than all capeshit
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>>170030432
The Hired Hand
Cat Ballou
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>>170034562
so your ideal movie would be all CG, completely without action, and completely flat dialogue to not be ''reddit''?
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>>170032091
Tom Hanks doing bad things to children wouldn't shock me
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>>170023609
I still haven't seen this movie, but this guy's cold and confident stare on his sunbaked face tells an entire story. Kino. I need to get back into watching older movies again.
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>>170036355
Maybe Keanu then?
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Absolutely blessed thread. Shows real kinoseurs with hearts are here.
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>>170028240
For me, it's The Professionals
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>>170023536
Stagecoach and Darling Clementine are way better than any spaghettishit
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>>170036938
It's weird that I can enjoy so many John Wayne movies, even ones older than Stagecoach, but Stagecoach never did it for me
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>>170024883
>kinda sloppy
that is by design to evoke the spaghetti-ness of spaghetti westerns
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Why don't they make western kino anymore, /tv/?
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>>170023609
why isn't the camera shaking all over making it unwatchable, I won't stand for this
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>>170036987
Me either, I think 3 Godfathers is much better and John Wayne plays a similar character.
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>>170028985
>talked about the decline of the west
>to a porno mag
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it's far more dated than GBU. characters talk too much nonsense ("men used to be better lol"), there are useless characters (he girl and the cheyenne), the revenge theme isn't original. everything is perfect and timeless in GBU.
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>>170037322
>porno mag
i didn't believe it myself but playboy really does have pretty good articles
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>>170037085
The tropes and archetypes are too easily transferred to other genres.
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>>170037303
Based. I'm still waiting for them to release it on blu-ray
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>>170036868
first one and a half hours are kino kind of goes to shit after that
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>>170036531
watch it asap anon, it's a masterpiece
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>>170037343
>cheyenne is useless
cheyenne is the old honorable romantic cowboy the story alludes so much and the new time ahead the railroads will foster has no space for them.
No country for old cowboys
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>>170024369
The Proud Rebel is another great Alan Ladd western
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Duck you sucker is a very weird movie, nowhere near the same quality as most leone westerns (i actually think once upon time america suffers from the brty same issues) but the Morricone ost is so on point
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kp0F0Lo9G0
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Clint Eastwood and spaghetti westerns are overrated.
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>>170039010
>Clint Eastwood is overrated
Not true
Spaghetti westerns are overrated
True
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>>170037085
Because it's white history
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>>170023536
>even better than Good Bad and Ugly?
That's not even the best of the trilogy
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>>170038805
>cheyenne is the old honorable romantic cowboy
He's an outlaw that got roped into things because Frank framed him for their gang hit
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>>170023536
Not sure I can rank them in order but:
fistful, great silencio, heaven's gate, once upon, wild bunch, django are all certified

and theres 100 more that are fantastic kinos that dont make the same tier but are still infinitely better than capeshit
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A Pistol for Ringo never gets any mention. It's the thinking man's spaghetti western.
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>>170023536
>Good Bad and Ugly
worst of the trilogy
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>>170024702
This
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>>170023842
2 > 1 >>> 3. Eli Wallach comes off as an annoying parasite and his on-off partnership with the MC is silly.
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>>170023536
I still haven't seen this, which is weird because I've seen all the classic westerns and westerns are my favorite genre.
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>>170024442
silly ending, I was rooting for Kiński until he went full "I am le evil because... I am le evil!!"
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Il pistolero dell'Ave Maria

>>170024579
based, the Terrence Hill prequel is good too

>>170024763
shit b8
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>>170023536
High Noon is the greatest western ever made.
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>>170029769
It's a homeage to other westerns. I'm not going in to details but if you get the dvd there is commentary on each scene, why it is what it is, shot composition, placement, movements, everything is discussed and of course the referential movies are stated.
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>>170030429
He always played the good guy in every movie this was the first movie Fonda played the bad guy, and he did the worst thing possible in the first act of the movie. It shocked a lot of people, genuinely.
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>>170041729
>I also knew two other fellas who really did things that were detrimental to our way of life. One of them was Carl Foreman, the guy who wrote the screenplay for High Noon, and the other was Robert Rossen, the one who made the picture about Huey Long, All the King's Men. In Rossen's version of All the King's Men, which he sent me to read for a part, every character who had any responsibility at all was guilty of some offense against society. To make Huey Long a wonderful, rough pirate was great; but, according to this picture, everybody was a shit except for this weakling intern doctor who was trying to find a place in the world. I sent the script back to Charlie Feldman, my agent, and said, "If you ever send me a script like this again, I'll fire you." Ironically, it won the Academy Award.

>High Noon was even worse. Everybody says High Noon is a great picture because Tiomkin wrote some great music for it and because Gary Cooper and Grace Kelly were in it. So it's got everything going for it. In that picture, four guys come in to gun down the sheriff. He goes to the church and asks for help and the guys go, "Oh well, oh gee." And the women stand up and say, "You're rats. You're rats. You're rats." So Cooper goes out alone. It's the most un-American thing I've ever seen in my whole life. The last thing in the picture is ole Coop putting the United States marshal's badge under his foot and stepping on it. I'll never regret having helped run Foreman out of this country.
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>>170031611
The first time I watched this I didn't even realise she was dubbed, the Whore with a heart.
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>>170041863
Not the first movie. He was an asshole in Fort Apache
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>>170041919
Based Duke
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No one posted it yet? Here you go, the most kino scene of all time.
Harmonica has waited decades for this moment, to finally bring an end to his brothers kill and it shows with the body language, his barely recognisable smile, but for Harmonica it's as if he is finally happy at peace this is it, the moment this is what his entire life has led too, nothing else matters but the duel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwb3P0fuM1c&ab_channel=Lorenzo
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>>170031047
lmao, well done
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>>170023536
not as good as some other already posted, but this one was fun and with a good story, after watching hours of spaghetti western it was quite refreshing



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