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Should the more problematic older movies be deleted from streaming sites, /tv/?

I mean the boomers back then thought racism was okay, but they were fairly dumb.
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>>167998494
Frankly, my queer, I don't give a damn.
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>>167998593
fpbp
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This is maybe one of the greatest American novels of all time. The movie is way more racist than the book. Hattie McDaniel is a fucking inspiration and Mammy is based as shit and her acting should be proudly displayed from here to high heaven.
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>>167998494
she litterally got an oscar for that role
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>>167998593
FPBP
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>>167998494
How is this movie racist?
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All of /tv/, all of /film/ BURN IT
and all the cinema films in the cinema vault BURN IT ALL DOWN.
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>>167998837
All the comedic points in the movie come from black people and have real minstrel vibes to them.

In the book it mostly just like minimalizes slavery. Makes it seem not like horrible human trafficking for free labor and just a natural part of life like breathing air. Scarlett actually never said the N-word before a certain point in the book, and she is taken aback when she hears it coming out of her mouth as though it wasn't said all the fucking time back then in reality. Some of the black people in the book who stay with their white families after the war feel like they straight up have Stockholm Syndrome. Mammy stays because she looks at Scarlett as her own daughter and that makes sense.

I think Mitchell was just ignorant about this shit to be honest. How many people in Georiga in the 30s are going to be honest about how shitty slavery was?
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are all of the boards just bot and bait threads now or are zoomers just shit at making threads
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>>167998494
Never watched the movie, never read the book. Should I ?
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Anyway in a book full of strong women Mammy is an incredibly strong woman. There was an interview with Samuel L Jackson about Tarantino not being racist because he writes smart black characters. Mammy is a very smart and very strong female character. Even though the mammy stereotype is racist, I wouldn't call Mammy a racist character because she herself is a character and not a caricature.

I'm white btw.
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>>167998837
>Further, American cinema helped to spread the fictional “lost cause” narrative that has attempted to rewrite history while transforming the terrorism of slavery into something much less real, though much more palatable to certain white audiences. The idea of a “lost cause” originally emerged in the period after Reconstruction. An overt attempt to erase the savage brutality of slavery during the age of Jim Crow white supremacy, a revisionist history began to emerge which suggested that though the south had lost the civil war, the fight itself had been a noble cause that was predicated on an attempt to preserve a cherished way of life. That “way of life” might also be known as slavery.

>Long before Viola Davis’s Oscar nomination in The Help, though, Hattie McDaniel would be the first black actor in Hollywood to be nominated and win in 1940 for her role as the dutiful servant Mammy in Gone With the Wind. McDaniel was not allowed to attend the film’s 1939 premiere in Atlanta because of her race. And though she would make history at the 1940 Oscars ceremony at the Ambassador hotel in Los Angeles she was forced to sit in a segregated “colored section” separate from the white actors in an area created specifically for her during the evening’s event. McDaniel’s role in the film was such a fundamentally stereotypical representation of white society’s desired way to see black women that her character’s name, Mammy, came to be descriptive of that particularly pervasive stereotype. The sassy, cantankerous, asexual Mammy was a caricature of black womanhood and McDaniel was made to endure the implications of this caricature in the racist treatment she received on and off screen.
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>>167999160
Scarlett is easily one of the least likeable and most interesting women in fiction. Her self sabotage at every turn is infuriating to read for 1000 pages yet I still sat there and read all 1000 pages.
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>>167999160
movie is pretty good and doesn't feel like it's 4 hours long at all, can recommend
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>>167999337
>sassy, cantankerous, asexual
Mammy is incredibly proud of her family and of Tara. If she is cantankerous its because she works HARD and has a right to complain. The highlight of the book for me is when the old overseer tries to buy Tara and Mammy comes out yelling at him about how he killed Scarlett's mother by getting her sick with typhoid and he's nothing but poor white trash not fit to be on Scarlett's mother's porch. The love and pride she has for the children she raised and the home she runs is inspiring.
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>>167998494
Why are you gay?
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>>167998494
Nothing should be deleted, but age ratings should be mandatory for all /tv/ content and granted by a governmental body.
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>>167999027
>Some of the black people in the book who stay with their white families after the war feel like they straight up have Stockholm Syndrome
But that's how it really was. I've listened and read to many accounts by actual slaves and they all said the same thing: when they were freed, they had no idea what to do or where to go. They described themselves and other slaves as just aimlessly roaming nearby, like cattle let loose. They were so dehumanized from slavery that they literally had no independence even when 'freed'. Their very minds, their existence, was enslaved.
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>Deleted
Even as a pretty liberal guy, I don't get deleting it. I feel the best middle ground is just prefacing the movie with "this shit has some outdated shit that might offend some people if that shit sounds bad to you turn the movie off". I think it was TCM that did it best by having a host explain the context of the movie and not erasing it from existence. Same with shit like Breakfast at Tiffany's. Erasing it does nothing.
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Stop "explaining" the "context" of things. It's funny how supposedly tolerant liberals are literally the most intolerant of cultures that are not their own (i.e. the past).
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>>168000032
>but age ratings should be mandatory for all /tv/ content and granted by a governmental body.
Yes let's waste more money on pointless things and politicize them
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>>168000209
>Their very minds, their existence, was enslaved.
How hegalian
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>>168000392
Liberals let this shit happen Fyukc yuou for bein a meanie pie
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>>167999449
>>167999224

Shes barely a character in the movie

imagine being type casted as a maid for the rest of your life lol
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>>168000209
>They were so dehumanized from slavery
>dehumanized from slavery

I know right, they enslaved all those scientists and educated individuals in Africa and brought them to America, few generations and they all behave like wild animals, all because Slavery.
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>>167998494
Slavery had nothing to do with race
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>>167998494
no, racism is a bullshit word used exclusively by bullshit people by their own standards they are more "racist" than whites but when it's them against whites they don't care. Fuck your delusions cocksucker eat a bullet
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>>167998494
Yes and we should burn more books, too.
How I hate you faggots, ruiners of civilizations. Your ilk will pop up in the next one to ruin that too, an eternal cycle of your evil. Fuck you.
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>>168002448
Not even primitive africans eat from a trough like pigs do and slaves did
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>>167998494
>>167999027
Cry more you embarrassing idiot.
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>>168002537
They didn’t have the technology for troughs
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>>168002448
What is the line between civilized man and savage man? Is it more than law that keeps man in order?
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>>168002637
I'd feel more human catching a small animal and eating raw than I would eating corn meal mixed with water from a trough with my bare hands while fighting other slaves for it
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>>167998494
Yes because the best way to learn from the past is to delete it
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>>168002676
You will eat the bugs from the trough, chud.
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>>168002796
So you're pro slavery?
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>>168002445
People said that to Hattie and she said "well if you're complaining about the roles I'm taking make better roles for black women to act in." Whe wanted to act and wanted to put money on the table and these were the only roles out there for black women.
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>>167998494
No. I think even putting a disclaimer before the movie is dumb because on a streaming service you specifically choose to watch a movie.
Also, reminder Clark Gable (the guy who plays the male lead) only signed up to do the movie if the word nigger wasn't used.
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>>167999160
If you have any interest go ahead and obtain a copy before the inevitable
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>>168002829
Soooooooooooooooooooo
you just admitted racism exsists
boom you deleted your own argument.
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>>168002445
Scarlett spends more time with Mammy than her own mother.
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>>168002824
There's only one side pushing for the idea you will own nothing.
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>>168002906
Is her mother even in the movie? This movie probably fails the kinsey test too.
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>>168002906
I think that's a bit of social commentary about 'mammy' characters lost on many modern viewers. In the slave south, many white children ended up being closer with their mammies than they did their own hands off parents.
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>>167999027
>>167999337
Slavery of the south was way less bad then slavery literally anywhere else in the world, whites do everything the nice way even horrible evils.
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>>168002918
Who's implying what now???
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>>167998494
>Should the more problematic older movies be deleted from streaming sites, /tv/?
>I mean the boomers back then thought racism was okay, but they were fairly dumb.
>>168000032
>Nothing should be deleted, but age ratings should be mandatory for all /tv/ content and granted by a governmental body.
Communism. Not even once.
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>>168002537
The Africans that were brought over to the states were already slaves, please don’t tell me you buy the white guys running around with butterfly nets fiction. Africa was the center of the slave trade because they had been enslaving each other for millennia before the Arabs or whity showed up. Also the descendants got to live in America which is much better then Africa. Honestly all around a good deal for them and a bad deal for us, slavery was the white mans biggest folly.
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>>168003148
Its not communism, its called artistic censorship and its used to control the integrity of a nation.
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>>168003207
Nobody cares about whataboutism. Slavery is some evil shit no matter how you want to spin it.
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>>168002676
You are retarded if you think that happened in any majority of situations. Where do you think all the ribs and cornbread bullshit came from? Slaves being given scrapes to work with, not holocaust level retard pig troughs
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>>168003242
Then lets whataboutism all the white and slavic slavery that happened in the middle east hmmmmmmmmmmmmm *sips wine *sips tea *sips smug aura of superiority
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>>168002448
Don't forget the crab experiments
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>>168003242
Slavery is evil, it’s not the white mans burden to bear however, and the degree of evil within white man’s slavery is vastly overstated for gibs.
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>>168002676
Movie buff coming through. What other bad things happened in movies?
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>>167998494
Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa; you're telling me that people weren't woke in back in 19-whenever the fuck?

HOLY SHIT! I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS!!!
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>>168003279
No, that was the majority. There were different levels of slavery: the basic was the trough level farmhands, followed by the yeoman-like skilled slaves who were allowed to build their own cabin and independently farm their part of the plantation, then there were the house slaves and finally free negroes. Meals like cornbread and ribs came from "yeoman" and house slaves.
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>>168003349
You have to admit the depiction of slavery in Gone With the Wind is picturesque and done with a light touch.
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>>168003349
> the degree of evil within white man’s slavery is vastly overstated
It isn't. In fact, it is understated because you rarely see anything about how slave owners used slavery to breed mixed race sex slaves.
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>>167998494
I fucking WISH there was racism in GWTW
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>Remove the awkward parts of history where we did bad things so the future generations will never know and learn from it.
Sounds like a recipe for a disaster.
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>>168003491
Yeah right
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>>168003491
ok but only the jew ones
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>>168003444
It is, my point still stands about slavery in general
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>>168002003
It's not pointless to me. I don't want to watch certain content, simple as. I don't want to waste my time watching stuff before deciding whether I should show it to family and friends or not.
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Doesn't it get tiring being offended ALL THE TIME? This is why being 'woke' makes no sense to me.
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>>168003424
Sounds made up, it’s not more efficient to make guys feed from a trough.
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>>168003148
>Communism. Not even once.
Go show your mum porn. I'm sure she'll appreciate what a wholesome human bean you've become.
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>>168003684
t. never worked on a farm
It is literally the most efficient way to feed livestock and slaves were treated as such
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>>168003491
Yeah because white men now a days love black woman am I right? They just can’t keep there hands off, they all think they are so gorgeous.
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>>168003725
You're an idiot. You could make an almost indiscernibly white slave from just two generations of intermixing.
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>>168003725
Oh yeah. Let's Dogfart it up.
Wez gonna gang bang this black bitch.
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>>168003544
>we
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>>167998494
>Should the more problematic older movies be deleted from streaming sites, /tv/?

No that's just as bad as denying racism exists. There could be a foreword added...but really young people dont watch them anyway.
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>>168003724
Alright for arguments sake let’s say you are right, the majority of this underclass fed from troughs, and we’re treated as livestock. Different question but why would you damage (whip) a expensive piece of livestock? Where many really whipped as is claimed, sure some men are cruel to animals, but all men on all farms? I find it hard to believe that it was common practice to kill things you had paid large amount of money for, that in fact did not turn profits as many think. Slaves historically worked many less hours picking cotton or what have you then you or I spend wageslaving, not to say I’d rather be a slave but there you are.
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>>168003773
Lmao, quadroons will never be white
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>>168003849
>Different question but why would you damage (whip) a expensive piece of livestock?
Whipping doesn't permanently cripple them. It was used to punish runaways and severe disobedience. Whipping one sends a message of fear to all.
>I find it hard to believe that it was common practice to kill things
Whipping isn't killing. Why are you lying through your teeth?
>that in fact did not turn profits as many think
Slave labor turns huge profits. Always has. Why are you fighting against blatant reality?
>Slaves historically worked many less hours picking cotton or what have you then you or I spend wageslaving
Wrong. Slaves would harvest through the night during peak season.

Lazy dishonesty on your part. What a sick mind you possess.
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>>167998593
FPBP
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>>167998494
how much food was that fat cow stealing from the white family???
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>>167998593
/Thread
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>>168003080
This. My great Grandfather was a slave and he said he actually enjoyed it.
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I've been reading Gone With the Wind. Then I watched Gone With the Wind. Then the next day I watched Django Unchained.
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>>168003972
So literally like any white poor peasant for centuries in Europe. But we don't talk about that right, we also don't speak about origin of the word Slave. Only black people have right to feel oppressed.
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Erasing history is a surefire way to repeat it, so yes.
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>>167998593
Fpbp
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>>167998494
>Should the more problematic older movies be deleted from streaming sites, /tv/?

Yes, fat red haired lesbians on Twitter should be the arbiters of our society!
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>>168005238
There's a difference between serfs and slaves. Serfs are tied to the land where slaves are tied to people. I don't know if you can buy and sell and traffick serfs.

Anyway this is maybe one of the best American novels that captures the essence of an unsustainable way of life that people still to this day can't move on from even though it's been destroyed.

Sherman did literally nothing wrong. Don't own slaves if you don't all of Atlanta burned to the ground. It's that easy.
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>>168005889
They really put some astoundingly attractive women on screen back then
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>>168005973
Clarke Gable is sexy as fuck too.
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>>168005889
>OHARA!
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>>167998494
Yeah they should be deleted :) be a shame if I couldn’t gatekeep :) would be a shame if some normalfag streamer didn’t stumble upon my favorite old movies so they can tweet about their horrendous takes:)
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>>167999027

Hattie McDaniel won an Oscar for her role as Mammy. She based the character's accent and mannerisms on her grandmother who had been a slave.
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>>168006332
Ik not talking about Mammy. There's a scene where a black guy is chasing a rooster around in the rain with a umbrella in one hand an an axe in the other and then fucking Turkey In The Straw plays and I'm watching a literal minstrel show for a second. It's a lot more dignified and sad in the book because it highlights how far they have fallen.
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>>167998837
It has white people in it
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Imagine being so gay you cry about some old ass movie that nobody fucking watches any more
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>>168007750
Why do you talk like a fag? Your shit's all retarded.
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>>167998593
based fpbp
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>>167998593
Based. Fpbp. /Thread
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>Gone with the Wind
>Still there after I watch it.
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>>167998593
based damn red pilled
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>>167998593
fippy bippy
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>>168003006
It's no different from how in Victorian England the aristocrats where kids were closer to their nannies than their actual parents who thought kids were someone you visited, not someone you spent time with bonding.
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>>167998494
Black "Mammies" were there to breastfeed the white slave owners kids.


After getting knocked up, they could fed kids for the white mothers, and their own kids could go hungry.
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>>168003207
Americans deliberately made a law that said any born children by slaves would automatically inherit their parents' slavery status, and built an entire religious justification system for slavery and had to have an entire civil war to get rid of the system.
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>>167999027
There was nothing 'shitty' about slavery.
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>>167998785
Basically the only reason this movie hasn't been banned. It was literally the first time a black actor ever won an academy award. It is too significant to the history of black cinema to ever be completely buried
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>>167998593
Neat
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Reminder that Clark Gable's wife died at the beginning of WW2 and he was so suicidal over it that he signed up to be a bubble gunner. Mad man.
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Why would you cancel someone who made a great contribution as an actor and as a character for black people in a movie?
Am I living in the upside down world or something? What's next? Canceling Malcolm X because he didn't do enough for them?
Can we all agree that's it's white people doing this? I don't know any black people who hate on that woman. She was a black lady in a major Hollywood movie and she was one of the few likable character in it (Rhett and Scarlett are great to watch, but they are the worst as far as characters go).
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>>168000209
Should have honestly get sent them all back after it was over and be done with it forever. imagine how much better the country would be for it
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>>168008430
>Can we all agree that's it's white people doing this?
From my experience it's usually mutts who have no identity of their own trying to tear it all down. Stop race mixing and creating these abominations.
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>>167999160
Yes. We both know you won't read the book before watching the movie, so do that first.
It's a great story about damaged people. Be warned that the main protagonists aren't the good guys, so don't expect to root for them at first, but they do grow on you after awhile.
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>>168003235
>its called the deletion and re-writing of history and its used to control a nation.
FTFY communist. This is communism 101: destroy a nation's history and re-write it so that nothing came before communism. If that's the false god you want to die for, may you get that chance.
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>>168005889
>I don't know if you can buy and sell and traffick serfs.
you could in Russia
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>>168002892
>soooooooooo
>boom

what you're saying is obvious, and i agree, but you guys come off like such soicuck faggots i always feel compelled to hate you and disagree.
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>>167998837
It has white people on it.
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>>167999027
>and just a natural part of life like breathing air.
for all of human history pre 1833 it was
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>>168005889
Serfs (in Russia at least) were only tied to the land in the sense that they couldn't just pack up a leave the estate they were tied to, they could still be bought and sold if the estate owner wanted. Their lives were also heavily regulated in much the same way slaves were; marriages between serfs, for example, had to be approved by their landlord to ensure that their children wouldn't be considered part of another estate.
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>>168003681
>Mute
better not tell (((Them))) to ban this word now
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It sucks that humanity can never reach it true potential because of contrarians
>"gravity exists"
>no it doesn't
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>>167998494
Kill yourself faggot
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>>168008135
I'm sure you would have loved it you stupid faggot
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Slavery really was the worst atrocity in American history.
Just imagine America today if we never brought over those African and Asian slaves...
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>>167998837
It depicts slavery. Apparently you can't show history anymore.
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There are essentially three ways to justify slavery, with most pro-slavery types advocating a world view blending all three.

Pro-Slavery Argument #1
>Slave people are inferior, not even human, and their only use is as slaves
Pro-Slavery Argument #2
>We give the enslaved a better life than they would have had on their own
Pro-Slavery Argument #3
>God created them to be enslaved by us

Whether you're a Muslim slaver, Jewish slaver, Christian slaver, economy slaver or white slaver, it's all the same bullshit.
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>>167998593
lmao
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>>167998494
except "Mammys" were a real thing. wealthy slave holding families had house slaves, who were better taken care of and extremely loyal to there masters.
sorry but that's the history. Not every slave was a field hand and how they were treated varied greatly by the master.
but everybody knows slavery must only be depicted has the most horrific thing ever, any other depiction is racist.
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>>167998494
I will admit I did think the part where she hit the little nigger woman(can’t think of her name) was a little fucked up. Imagine being black and watching that, it must feel like shit xdxvj
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>>168005889
serfs in Russia became literally the same as slaves within 50 years as their rights were rolled back after the reign of Peter The Great. yes they were bought and sold by Catherine's time. the confusion is because of how their rights changed over time.
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>>168010923
What about the Chadview:
>These other races are worthless subhuman and I don't want them on the same continent as me
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>>168011042
>how they were treated varied greatly by the master.
yeah that's the whole problem, it meant that laws weren't universal.
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>>167998494
Who gives a fuck. No ones a slave today. Niggers need to move on. The more they cry and whinge about it the longer it's going to take them to get their lives in order.
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>>168010500
well there's healthy contrarianism, and there's bullheaded egotism. like there's spineless conformity and there's humbleness.
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>>168010665
Should have just hired more Irish. It wouldn't have cost much more and they would have gotten much better workers in the process. Funny how the Irish were treated almost as bad as blacks historically but nowadays no one seem to care about their struggles
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>>168011042
>>168011108
No matter how much you try to spin slavery as some sort of benevolence by a kind and wise master with a loyal servant, inevitably there will be a time when it becomes clear that it is an act of violent submission.
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>>168000392
Disney basically erased Song of the South.
those tales were collected slave folk tales. Uncle Remus is playing the role of a griot, the African story teller.
a slave telling stories to white kids how racist, oh the racisms burning me
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>>167999027
How many blacks are going to be honest about ANYTHING?! You cant get a straight story from anything about nothing! Slavery in America was a fucking upgrade to their lives in Africa. They were all tickled pink to be eating the food they ate and wearing the clothes they wore. It wasn't until domestic born slaves who never knew how shit their families lives were, that it seemed so terrible. The same way it seems so terrible to modern jiggaboo because he doesnt have the same things a middle class white man has, because that middle class white man grew up with a family that raised and provided for him, and didnt waste their money on drugs, booze, rims, and cheap gold.
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>>168011695
>a slave telling stories to white kids how racist, oh the racisms burning me
he was free, songs in the south is set after the end of slavery before the rise of pseudo-slavery, a few blissful decades
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>>168002445
actors are type cast all the time.
Today she'd be type cast as a big momma type, or maybe a variation of Ester Rolle from Good Times.
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>>168011756
exactly! and this is why whites need jews as a civilizing influence.
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>>168010665
Asians weren't slaves, contract labor sure but if that's slavery then so we're the Irish, Mexicans and jungle Mexicans.
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>>168003491
This. You also rarely hear about how slave owners would rape a male slave before his wife and children to break his spirit.
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Charles Sumner
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>>168011433
>No ones a slave today
blacks in Mauritania, Sudan and Libya are, also Pygmies in Congo
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>>168003773
> deranged abolitionists would never lie!
lmao
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>>168003242
>Slavery is some evil shit no matter how you want to spin it
Wrong, slavery is a just punishment, biblical even.
The alternative is enslaving innocent people to pay for criminals to be kept alive, feed and houses at prisons

I'd much rather have a nigger be my slave working at macdonalds to pay for what he stole than to have to pay any cent to keep him in prison (the latter means I am the slave)
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>>168011601
you're trying to make it a moral argument, I'm not. Slavery was more nuanced and depicting only brutality is a fantasy.

no shit they used corporal punishment. the more benevolent masters viewed their slaves, especially house slaves, as children. up until about 40 years ago corporal punishment was used in public schools to correct behavior. some parents still use it.

it isn't like depicting the many facets of slavery is a bad thing. some owners were shit, others weren't, that isn't an endorsement of slavery or justifying it morally it's just being accurate
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>>167999160
It’s a piece of American history, yes
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>>168012921
Enslaving someone isn't corporal punishment. It's slavery, a form of hostage taking.
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>>167998593
Based and Rhett pilled.
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>>167998494
>Gone With the Wind and the damaging effect of Hollywood racism
"racism" is just a code word for "White people existing"
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>>168008430
yeah, it's (((white))) people.
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>>167998593
FPBP

Gone with the wind is chick flick and novel. I very rarely hear the book brought up as classic.
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>>167998837
>How is this movie racist?
The White people in it didn't live their lives for non-Whites.
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>>168011145
But we don't talk about them because they are white. Seriously, I really wish the uppity negroes got a taste of XIX and XX life in Russia.
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>>167998593

HOLY BASED
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>>168011586
Also we would have a much higher population of gorgeous red hair and green eyes. I'll take that any day of the week over black/brown.
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>>168011842
You mean the 50 hour week? Does that mean that I'm actually a slave? Sheeeeeeeeeeeeit
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>>167998494

Didn't we literally have some 'woke' movie made in 2019 (or thereabouts) being condemned by the following years woke standards that they put a trigger warning on it? 'They' are a many headed hydra that participate in nothing more than an orgy of cannibalism when it come to their own internal logic and condemnations.
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>>168012531
Don't forget the Phillipines, Malasya and Saudi Arabia. Also the lithium and diamond mines in Ethipia.
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>>167998593
>this made boomers in 1939 piss and shit themselves in shock
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>>168013281
Well, it's about the civil war so I'd say half a million white folks gave their lives for the negroes in this movie.
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>>167998494
I have so much nigger fatigue it's unreal
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>>168013492
Got a name for this movie?
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>>168011842
even better, a free black man telling white kids slave folk tales. sounds more like a cultural ambassador.
the tar baby store was adapt from the gum baby African tale. the stories were recorded in the slave dialect and the cartoon does a good job capturing that.
https://youtu.be/qpGL-mj-LEk

the moral is universal, don't overreact to the smallest perceived slight.
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>>168013040
African king sells slaves to slavers
Slavers bring slaves to Americas
Slaves bought by land owners

the kidnapping and hostage taking started in Africa by Africans. maybe you should place your blame and indignation at the source, instead of nipping at the heel.
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>>168013947
It doesn't matter who started it, they're all guilty.
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>>168014089
>they're all guilty
Does this include the free blacks in the US who owned slaves? What about the american indians who owned slaves? Do they get a pass?
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>>168014164
It doesn't matter how hard you try your whataboutism. Slavery is not coporal punishment, it's hostage taking and it's an act of violent submission.
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>>168014217
Why are you avoiding the question? Yes or no, are free black and american indian slaveholders as guilty as slaveholders from other races. If no, why not?
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>>168014089
have fun prosecuting people that have been dead for hundreds of years.
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>>167999027
>Implying a woman wouldn't come to love any baby she helped raise, even under duress/during imprisonment
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>>168014217
>it's hostage taking
Whoa. My eyes: literally opened. What kinds of ransom were those evil slave owners demanding? Did they write ransom notes to the slaves' families? Did they have to cut out letters from old-time newspapers and paste them together so nobody knew who they were? Golly gee, history is difficult!
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>>168014217
you called slavery violent submission, which I took to mean they were beaten everyday, which simply wasn't the case.

you have trouble dealing with the fact that slavery wasn't all brutality and that a person born into slavery might just accept it as his lot in life and get by best as he could.

that's what really burns you. it's the fact most just accepted it and some probably found some happiness in their station in life.

that's what you hate. you can't admit it because you'd rather die you tell yourself but deep down you know you know your ancestors just accepted it.
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>>168000209
>They were so dehumanized from slavery that they literally had no independence even when 'freed'. Their very minds, their existence, was enslaved.
>literally housed, clothed, fed every day
>some were educated
>most learned skills
>didnt do shit with what they learned and didnt learn from other freed slaves and just blame white people
SHUT. THE. FUCK. UP. REDDIT NIGGER
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>>168002537
yeah they only eat albino body parts and fuck babies to get rid of aids, fuck silly me of course they dont eat out of troughs they only eat people
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>>167998593
Thread? Over.
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>>167999027
>All the comedic points in the movie come from black people and have real minstrel vibes to them.
it's literally the same today
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>>168012374
welp since we just believe anything
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>>168002445
>typecasted as a maid
Alas, this is the life of a filipino woman
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>>168015448
do you have the elephant one?
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>>168000209
That's because it was illegal for black people to learn how to read, walk around at night, or exist in the same spaces as white people. After they were inevitably arrested for these crimes they were forced to sign contracts they couldn't read signing themselves over into slavery. Pick up a fucking history book you moron.
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>>168016186
Shit b8, m8. I r8 it 1/8.
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>>168000032
Already the case in Europe.
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>>168002918
The only people who want to own nothing are the bootlickers who would let their boss fuck their wife if he asked. The surest way to guarantee you will own nothing is by giving more power to the capitalist class.
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>>167998494
Who is so stupid they don’t realize that their own beliefs aren’t going to one day be considered “problematic”?

Human beings and therefore the art they produce are products of their time. To look at things only through a current lens is to disregard history. And those who disregard history are doomed to repeat it.

I swear the douchebag left is so fucking repugnant.
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>>167998593

Fucking based. FPBP.
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>>168014753
>>168014856
>>168015171
>>168015448
>Slaves don't like it? OH yeah they can just walk away
Yeah right. What's the point of this insane dishonesty? I guess you can't help yourself. It's pathological.
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>>168016722
I really like how you didn't bother refuting any of the points (for example) >>168014856 made, instead claiming everything is "insane dishonesty." Seems to me the dishonest/pathological one here is you, pal.
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>>167998494
Why do I get the feeling that article doesn't actually say we should delete them?
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>>168017299
Slavery is hostage taking. They are people held in servitude against their will.
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>>168017349
>Why do I get the feeling that article doesn't actually say we should delete them?
Because you're a lazy, smug asshole? The article is 100% in favor of deleting/canceling any and all older films that don't toe the current woke line.
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>>168017553
Still avoiding the question, still profoundly ignorant of the definition of "hostage." Exactly how can you consider yourself "progressive" when your intellectual faculties apparently stopped developing at age 10?
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>>168017683
>Still avoiding the question
No. My statement has never changed.
>still profoundly ignorant of the definition of "hostage."
Wrong again.

It doesn't matter how much you try to change the narrative. Slavery is slavery and it an act of violent submission. It isn't benevolent. It's malevolent.
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>>168017867
Aaaaand.... avoiding again. Why are you so eager to brush aside common-sense and/or objective historical fact? Why are you so eager to obfuscate the meaning of everyday English words? You realize that by doing so anyone and everyone with a shred of intelligence can tell you're not arguing in good faith, right? Right?
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>>167998593
BASED
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>>167998494
the fat nigga mama literally got an oscar for her performance, racist my ass
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>>168013070
underrated
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>>167998749
In the book they are open members of the KKK. Here they go to an undefined "political reunion".
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>>167999027
>Some of the black people in the book who stay with their white families after the war feel like they straight up have Stockholm Syndrome.
This is realistic you retarded ignorant faggot. The situation was incredibly crude and resources were hard to find. A shit ton of niggers died of hunger when they were freed. It was a smart movement to stay with the white families a couple years until thing calmed down. If anything the niggers that stayed were the smarter ones.
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>they made some niggers work once in their lives and they are still complaining about that one time 400 years later
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>>167998785
>here's an award for excellence in reinforcing problematic and outdated racist stereotypes
btw I'm a woman (trans) of color (also trans)
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>By all accounts, Gable got along well with co-stars[62] and was great friends with actress Hattie McDaniel; he even slipped her a real alcoholic drink during the scene in which they were celebrating the birth of Scarlett and Rhett's daughter.[63] According to Lennie Bluett, an extra in the film, Gable almost walked off the set when he discovered the studio facilities were segregated and signage posted "White" and "Colored".[64] Gable phoned the film's director Victor Fleming and told him, "If you don't get those signs down, you won't get your Rhett Butler." The signs were then taken down.[65] Gable tried to boycott the Gone with the Wind premiere in segregated Atlanta, because African American McDaniel and Butterfly McQueen were not permitted to attend. He reportedly only went after McDaniel pleaded with him to go.[66] They appeared in several more films, remaining life-long friends and he always attended her Hollywood parties.[67]
Based.
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It's really pathetic how we modern people are such bitches. One single thing which was common and normal in the past now makes us squirm and triggered like crazy. Proof that our ancestors were much tougher than our bitch asses.
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Didn't Gable notoriously have a very small cock?
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>>167998749
>This is maybe one of the greatest American novels of all time.
Can't hold a candle to the Dick.
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>>167998785
Yeah, but she wasn't invited to the premier because it was segregated.
She had to sit in the back at a segregated table during the award show.
And she wasn't buried at Hollywood cemetery because it was segregated. They couldn't even grant her last wish.
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>>168021120
That's pretty cringe, why was he such a whiny bitch?
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>>168022933
This anon has already answered your question: >>168021529
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>>168000209
>They were so dehumanized from slavery
Or, they could have just been happy with their owners. Did you ever think of that?
Maybe slave owners weren't as bad as you were taught to believe and in reality were kind to their slaves and simply treated them like any servant.
What, do you think every farmer is an animal-abusing scumbag just because they own cattle/hogs/chickens/etc.?



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