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how the fuck was this movie directed by a woman?
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She was a sigma female
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>>162337829
It's all about toxic masculinity bad if you pay attention.
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>>162337829
How come she’s only made one memorable movie?
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>>162337829
>make a character that is cool and attractive to other women
>character is a fucking psychopath
Yeah it tracks.
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>>162337829
Accidental kino. It's suppose to be a satire. Post-irony wasn't a thing back in 2000.
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>only good movie made by a female director ever is based on a book written by a gay male
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>>162338567
poltards btfo twice in a row
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>>162337829
It's a scene by scene rip off of scenes from the book and the book is written by a gay man
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>>162337829
Willem Dafoe interrogation scene is best scene.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8o7AhE1dphU
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Politically correct remake when? This movie is too violent for today's modern sensibilities.
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>>162338858
what makes this scene so good
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>>162337829
So was Punisher: Warzone. It happens sometimes.
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>>162337829
Because a female got hired to direct it.
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>>162339401
No.
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>>162339424
Three different versions of it were filmed.
One where he knows Patrick is guilty.
One where he thinks Patrick is innocent.
One where he is unsure.
During the editing process they used footage from all three keeping the viewer on their toes along with the fact you're a nigger.
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>>162338218
If you pay attention, anon, women don't think patrick bateman is cool. Autistic men THINK women think patrick bateman is cool.
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>>162339548
rude.
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>>162337829
Just finished watching this one last week. Did he really kill anyone?
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>>162339548
i know
yet i dont understand what makes it so great, is it really just that?
the whole thing seems weird
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>>162339464
She didn't just get "hired," the whole thing is her baby: she wrote the script and fought the studio tooth and nail to cast Bale.
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>>162337829
Fun fact, women also made The Matrix.
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>>162338780
did you just call a movie adaptation of a book a scene-by-scene ripoff? what
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>>162338858
The movie is full of great scenes like this
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>>162337829
Think about it for a second.
Still haven’t figured it out?
Its a film about a vain sociopath.
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>>162338723
Even though it proves that women can't accomplish anything on their own. Also, Bret Easton Ellis is the most right wing gay celebrity out there and constantly bitched about "SJW's" on his podcast. Basically, you're an idiot.
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>>162339587
Women try really hard to delude themself that the guy they are seeing is perfect. Same with some idiots chasing bitches.
People in positions like Patrick Bateman are desired, if you can pretend a little most women will think you are good guy just needing some love.
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>>162337829
>american roasty
>>162340266
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>>162338723
pol living rent free in your mind just proves them right
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>>162338858
FUCK, I love this movie
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>>162338723
Brett loves Trump
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>>162340455
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>>162339548
shit that's actually a neat trick
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>>162337829
>how the fuck was this movie directed by a woman?

The entire movie is supposed to be a critique of a certain type of masculinity. Considering virtually nobody interprets it like that, I would say it failed
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>>162338858
god bless the diggy guy who made this edit
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>>162338858
>sure, I can always get you a lime

Always makes me pmsl for some reason
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>>162337829
Cause women are not the drooling morons that 4chan incels want to think they are?
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We went to see a new musical called Oh Africa, Brave Africa. It was a laugh riot.
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>>162341100
yeah me too I laugh consistently out loud throughout this movie
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>>162341104
virgin or bait
or both
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>>162340008
It gives you the same sense of anxiety that Patrick was feeling in that situation. One moment you think everything's good then you immediately start thinking he's onto you.
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>>162341248
I hope I'm not being cross-examined.
You feel that way?
No, not really.
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>>162341100
>>162341199
>>162341299
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>>162341454
cehck
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>>162341104
>Cause some women are not the drooling morons that 4chan incels want to think they are?
ftfy champ
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>>162340600
>>162341100
>>162341199
>>162341299
Nice.
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>>162337829
have sex, incel
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>>162338858
Love how Bateman comes off as a barely contained schizo here. He slips just enough that you can tell something's off about him but not enough to justify greater suspicion.
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>>162341248
right..
gonna rewatch asap
do u know if the did that trick multiple times through the film?
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>>162338567
Bret Easton Ellis isn’t gay as much as he’s a total degenerate. He was fucking everything with fewer than six legs back in the day. Just doing drugs, railing sluts, buttfucking twinks, doing it all over again.

Patrick Bateman in the book is a spergy loser. Christian Bale in prime shape makes for an interesting guy, but in the book, he is not some gorgeous, cool guy.
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>>162338858
LAAAADY IIIIIN REEEEED. I love Jean.
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>>162341710
>Patrick Bateman in the book is a spergy loser. Christian Bale in prime shape makes for an interesting guy, but in the book, he is not some gorgeous, cool guy.
Then why'd he bulk up for it?
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almost like women used to be much better in the past and no all poisoned by feminism and whore culture
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>>162337829
Women can make kino, it's nothing new
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>>162341755
Because movies aren’t books? I’m just saying, as a comment on the whole Bret Easton Ellis thing, that book Patrick Bateman is a loser, his friends all think he’s a loser, and so on and so forth. Basically the first scene in the book is him like, hiding in the kitchen while his suave and smooth talking friend is all over his girlfriend. Because he’s a loser, and people don’t like him. He’s the uncool guy who doesn’t fit in.
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>>162342105
>his friends all think he’s a loser, and so on and so forth
oof
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>>162342105 >>162342164
hes a 'loser' in the movie in a sense that no one takes him seriously and casually makes fun of him, at that level he's nobody and doesn't matter how much he takes care of his looks desperately trying to stand out

also its supposed to be representation of a delusional idealized self-image he has
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Another kino directed by a woman
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>>162339401
Cool it with the anti-semitic remarks.
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>>162340056

Isn't she his aunt?

She regrets that viewers aren't sure if Bateman actually killed people or not.
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>>162341037
I've heard the same thing about the Sopranos. It was intended to show the weakness of a mafia boss but everyone just thought Tony was a badass superhero and wanted to be like him
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>>162337829
it was written by one
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>>162342905
Well did he? It shows him downing anti-psychotic pills so it could easily be either.
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>>162338567
>4chan's other move, Fight Club, also written by a chud gay male
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>>162342999
>Well did he?
Yes.
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>>162341805
>soccer
The only thing gayer than trannys
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>>162343034
American Psycho - written by a bisexual guy
Fight Club - written by a gay guy
The Matrix - directed by transgender men
Drive - directed by a guy who identifies as Jewish
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>>162343195
Broken cock is right twice a day.
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>>162343195
Hey, the chud part was the important part
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Femdirected kino
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>>162343195

One of the two women who adapted American Psycho for film is a lesbian.
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>>162338858
Did you know that the director shot two versions of the interviews between Dafoe and Bale. She then mixed the two together, making it even more confusing what was real or fantasy.
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>>162341530
Wow imagine if everyone was an individual with different traits and characteristics regardless of whether they have a dick or not
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ordered the book, should arrive tomorrow. cant wait to read it i heard it hilarious
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>>162342540
My sister, who turned out to be a lesbian, had a thing for Guy Pearce at the time this movie came out, so weekend it came out, we went to go see it. In the theater, it was just like, three random adult men seeing it alone, and then this family of four with two kids under 17, going to see the 19th century cannibal movie.
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>how the fuck was this movie directed by a woman?
Very well.
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>>162342999

>Christian Bale explained it in a 2000 interview with Charlie Rose: “Bateman does actually have an arc in the movie. He goes from psychopath to psychotic.”

Huh, definitely a overlooked detail.

>Turner explains: “He shoots at a cop car, and it just bursts into flames, and she just directed him to look at the gun like, Hmmm, how did that happen? But we did want it to be, at the end, that you really did think that he did these things.”

The cop car blowing up scene really casted doubt on everything he did before and afterwards which was bad directing.
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how the fuck did i get these dubs?
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>>162343435

That was a kino decision.
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>>162343988
It’s been a while since I read it, but I’m like 95% sure that in the book, when it gets to that part it switches from first person to third person, like it goes from the stream of consciousness monologue into a third person action novel thing.
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>>162337829
There are a few talented female directors, screenwriters, actors, a few.
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>>162339841
the director said he did, but I think the movie leaves it up to the viewer interpretation. There are aspects of the movie, which didn't make sense, and just show bateman delusions or having a psychotic break.
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>>162344062
>>162344255

Did Bateman take any medications in the book?

The scene where he takes the pill just casts more doubt on everything he sees/does.
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>>162337829
it's a movie about men acting with a female mindset, and who knows that better than a woman herself?
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>>162341199
>>162341100
The book is even funnier
When he meets some rastas and when he goes to a jewish deli are my favorite parts
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Becuase she potrayed how man are
But didnt expected that was bases as fuck
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>>162344041
It made it my favorite director's commentary next to Strange Days- also directed by a woman, also sexy and violent as the dickens.
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>>162344355
didn't read the book, so not sure.
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It wasn’t. That’s a well known psyop. She was just the face and there were men behind it who did the real directing. Everyone knows women can’t direct a decent flick dumbass
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>>162337829
its funny when you think about christian bale's stepmom trying her best to get his movie not made
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>>162344355
Pretty sure he takes Valium, at least.
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>>162344371
how is he acting with a female mindset?
its a satire of the atavistic destructive capitalism of the 1980s wall st yuppies
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>>162344774
The best part is that none of them ever do any work whatsoever. In his office he listens to music, watches TV, and even does fucking crosswords, but no work is ever being performed.
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>>162344774
he's vapid, superficial, sociopathic, narcissistic, has violent thoughts (and in this case the brawn to actually carry them out himself), and is completely obsessed with his image.
then again i guess you could argue that's how all rich men act
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>>162337829
It's carried by Bateman's acting and the source material
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>>162340455
>Let's she Sharon's new purse
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>>162338109
>I have to return some video tapes
that was the most kino line
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I'm leaving. I've uh, assesed the situation and I'm leaving,
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>>162341710
>BEE isn't gay
>he just buttfucks twinks
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>>162343563
It would be incredible, right?
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>>162344915
his father practically owns the company, he can do whatever he likes, silly.
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It's deeper than that, though. Bateman's not supposed to be a normal yuppie. He's an inconceivably wealthy old-money creature. This is only hinted at--his father's power and wealth which are way beyond the generic white-boy finance-major assholes he hangs with--but it's a super-important hint to understanding the book.

Bateman is obsessed with "fitting in" and being a person but he has no idea what a person is. His descriptions of clothes and music (which are intentionally ridiculous, Ellis says) are his perception of the culture around him.

The people he hangs with aren't Bateman, he's a singular creature in this book, and he's trying to fit into an empty culture and the verbal diarrhea is his only way of grasping it. The old-money wealthy lifestyle doesn't work for him so he's trying the consumption-driven-asshole lifestyle because it's the closest thing he can find to what a person is, what a life is. The only other alternative is the life of the poor/homeless/prostitutes which utterly repulse him. When none of these options satisfy him, over time, you see the cracks and that's where the violence comes in. (Unlike in the movie, it's very obvious in the book that the violence is not real, it's just cartoonish nonsense.)

The point is he can't find an exit (see the final paragraph). Culture is all there is. Even the violent fantasies, being as inhuman as possible, don't let him escape from the soul-crushing drudgery of having to embrace society in one way or another.

American Psycho is not about "wealth makes you a dirtbag", it's "we all barely exist as individuals because we can only exist through society or as a reaction to society". The criticism of corporate/finance types is just part of it because of the era the book was written in. It's not the real point of the book.

The movie misses all of this, by the way, and just treats it as a black comedy, which is totally fine.
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>>162345190
Look at the raw pink color... the well rounded curves to grab on to... it even has a brand name.
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>>162345113

Eh, fucking twinks doesn't make you a full blown faggot. Some are pretty cute.
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>>162345325
>fucking anything with XY chromosomes
you're a faggot.
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>>162344915
>In his office he listens to music, watches TV, and even does fucking crosswords, but no work is ever being performed.
I love that aspect of the movie as well. There is a mention of him having his job simply because his father was a big player/owner of the company, but I can't remember if that was only in the book or in the movie as well.
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>>162345510

In the car with his fiancée, she says she doesn't know why even works there since he hates his job. He replies that he wants to fit in.
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>>162345198
meds
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>>162345113
He’s a degenerate. If John Mayer starts hooking up with dudes, that’s pretty gay, but if you start talking about how the Body is a Wonderland guy is a gay dude, while it’s accurate that he fucks dudes, he’s also fucked over 500 girls, so “he’s a gay guy” doesn’t really cover it.
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>>162346368
its a fine take, just because you didn't fully grasp what anon is trying to say or didn't agree with the objectivity of his points doesn't make him wrong for sharing it.
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>… where there was nature and earth, life and water, I saw a desert landscape that was unending, resembling some sort of crater, so devoid of reason and light and spirit that the mind could not grasp it on any sort of conscious level and if you came close the mind would reel backward, unable to take it in. It was a vision so clear and real and vital to me that in its purity it was almost abstract. This was what I could understand, this was how I lived my life, what I constructed my movement around, how I dealt with the tangible. This was the geography around which my reality revolved: it did not occur to me, ever, that people were good or that a man was capable of change or that the world could be a better place through one’s taking pleasure in a feeling or a look or a gesture, of receiving another person’s love or kindness. Nothing was affirmative, the term “generosity of spirit” applied to nothing, was a cliché, was some kind of bad joke. Sex is mathematics. Individuality no longer an issue. What does intelligence signify? Define reason. Desire—meaningless. Intellect is not a cure. Justice is dead. Fear, recrimination, innocence, sympathy, guilt, waste, failure, grief, were things, emotions, that no one really felt anymore. Reflection is useless, the world is senseless. Evil is its only permanence. God is not alive. Love cannot be trusted. Surface, surface, surface was all that anyone found meaning in … this was civilization as I saw it, colossal and jagged
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>>162345198
Good effort post anon, don't take meds they shrink your cock
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>>162346462
You fuck a guy you're a fag.
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>>162345198
whoa, this is one of those 1/1000 /tv/ posts that actually made me realize something about life
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>>162347311
what did you realise i thought it was all nonsense
>we are all trying to fit in
>there is nothing to fit into
the post??
i dont get it seems retarded
tldr on giant paragraph

rich guy is diss-satified with life
trys to emulate seemingly happy people
finds himself unhappy anyway

i mean ok??? i guess??
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>>162338285
Hey nobody took it but just wanted to say this is pretty solid b8
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>>162340008
The point is the ending is left ambiguous as some sort of toothless social commentary. The book is similar but pulled off better. Basically the shallow society doesn’t care about his crimes
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>>162339548
Lmaooo
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>>162342439
Good job dude you actually paid attention while watching the movie
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>>162337829
because it's a story about male vanity

>>162345617
also no one cares or listens to him when he talks about his job, or murdering people. People always get his name wrong because he's nearly identical to his coworkers, none of them have clear job titles or distinct identities, so he fantasizes about being a serial killer as a way to imagine he's special. In reality he isn't the badass he wishes he was, he's just impotent, seething, living in a personal hell of his own making but too weak to do anything to change it. Because despite hating humanity he still longs for their affection, approval, admiration, etc etc, he does nothing for his own enjoyment, everything is in maintenance of an image/identity
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>>162343435
I think i heard three, one where he knows he did it, one where he thinks he’s completely innocent, and one where he can’t get a read on him. Great movie
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>>162348162
>he does nothing for his own enjoyment, everything is in maintenance of an image/identity
Because the alternative is being a degenerate burnout or a homeless person. This is explicitly stated in the first chapter of the novel where Bateman and Price are talking about how much they despise poor people (which is simply another image/identity).
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Dubs?
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>>162343323
the irony
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>Oh that movie you like?
>Yeah actually it was made to mock you
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>>162345198
>rich people are.. SADDER THAN YOU THOUGHT, HERE'S HOW
>is high society MORE VACUOUS THAN YOU THOUGHT? WATCH THIS TO THE END
Anything that gets you to focus on the bad example it purports to denounce is vacuous itself, that's why this was such an easy home run for a woman / effeminate to make. They exist on a plane of plausible deniability for their degenerate aims. This movie is a political successor to The Swimmer, it just had a higher class and more obvious anti-hero.
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>>162344510
You could've just not responded you faggot
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I do like that the director took the time to add quick little scenes to at least give the idea that Bateman could at least have the potential to be his own person when separated from the rest of his yuppie scum group. When he's leaving the club with the blonde model, who in the club also misheard his job as did everyone else, she confronts him, showing that she's self aware enough to know that Bateman just sees her as some dumb bimbo, which is what she's probably accustomed to when dealing with Wall Street types, and when Bateman tries to claim that he doesn't, she answers that she doesn't mind because "there's something sweet about him", which is something that you don't normally say to someone if you're just going in for a casual fuck and something Bateman probably isn't used to hearing from his supposed fiancé Evelyn, who is by far the most automaton-like of all the people he associates with.
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>>162344355
He takes a lot of meds and does a lot of coke
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>>162351620
And he was probably a closeted homosexual.
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>>162345198
Excellent post. I'm saving this for future reference
as far as I understand it, the respective themes are
>book: Society cannot be escaped as it who we are is bound to it, Bateman tries to revolt against this through delusions of violence
>Movie: Bateman is a psychotic schizophrenic whose violent outbursts (some of which are real and some of which are imagined) are both a way for him to compensate for his insecurities, and also a manifestation of his mental illness driving him to bloodlust. Evidence for this is the combination of bloodlust murders (the prostitutes) mixed with ego-related murders (Paul Allen).
>the film is also a general critique of absurd consumerist elitism and bateman's place within it
The two sources of media have the same subject material, but fundamentally different themes, probably because the director of the movie had a different vision to the author of the book. I personally love this because both are fantastic, and the film from an aesthetic point of view alone is really cool.
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The film is good BECAUSE it's directed by a woman. It's blatant satire of toxic masculinity, and not the dumb internet meme kind.
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>>162345198
The 0.1% of /tv/ posts where anon actually knows what he's talking about.
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>>162351456
She says there's something sweet about you to show that she is in fact a stupid bimbo with 0 judgement.
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I'd argue the book is more ambiguous than the movie. Yes, shit like the viscera and gore sprawled across Bateman's entire apartment or the rat in the vagina are so outlandish they make you balk, but other parts of it, like the child at the zoo and the way Bateman comes to terms with why the killing made him feel nothing have this ghoulish feeling where they're too realistically cruel compared to his obvious Patty Winters Show psychosis. Not to mention the taxi driver recognizing him from the wanted poster.
I like that part in particular because it has a poetic sort of feel to it. Between his two pursuits, empty, trend-chasing consumerism and selfless, indulgent violence, neither garner him any bit of recognition from his peers or the greater world around him. It's only some random man with a menial job that he stands out to, and even then it's just to mug him.
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>the part in the book where Bateman leaves a dollar bill in a college girl's coffee thinking her manner of dress being anything less than designer means she's homeless
Kek. They should have had more autistic scenes in the movie, it would help to show to an even greater degree how Bateman is distanced from humanity as a whole.
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>>162338218
Better than:
> make a character that is cool and attractive to other women.... nothing else happens throughout the whole movie. Just him going to work and coming home. Weak white people like you so easily offended make me worry for my race.
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>>162338567
>only good movie made by a female director
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>>162337829
women understand men pretty well
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>>162338218
yeah and the original title was going to be "the best most handomeset man thats a cool sigma male" until the studio changed the name



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