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The crotch fruit of the cretinous Rafe Judkins is out.

Books are recommended if you can handle over four million words. The show is either just cringe, or possibly cringe-kino like GoT season 8. If you are looking for a good show, do not watch this.

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>tfw no thicc forsaken gf
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>>159686156
Why is this woman so ugly?
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Books good
Show ok
Best we will get in 2021
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>>159686186
he hated weiramon's guts, but he was a powerful fool, which made him too useful to cast aside.
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>>159686156
Where are her braids and beads?
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>>159686201
>woman
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>>159686229
On the black women they casted
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>>159686156
I hate the books, but I'll finish reading them all so I can elevate my shitposting.
Also can't wait for the next episode to make fun of it here and cry for what could've been.
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>>159686230
The fuck is it?
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lol
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Elayne is best girl
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>>159686264
a good question, for another time
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>>159686229
where are her taraboner dark brown eyes, her doll-like features, and rosebud mouth?
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>>159686213
>books good
the books are popcorn fantasy trash that are dragged on for 8-9 books too long
>shows ok
except it’s not. it’s full of ugly mutts, terrible writing, inconsistencies, bad CGI and CW-tier costumes
>best we will get in 2021
current year may be shit but pretending like this is the best of the best this year is pretty retarded and a good indicator you’re just a fantasy faggot who hasn’t read enough to know how shit your books are
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Tomorrow is when it gets good.
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>>159686213
>Best we will get in 2021
Expanse season 6 starts in like 2 weeks though, with Expanse book 9 coming out around the same time. And Expanse books > WoT books, just like Expanse show > WoT show.
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>>159686156
I read through most of Judkin's AMA. To his credit, he seems to know the series. Though in an answer, he admits that he hired writers that have no idea what wheel of time is.

>why all the bipoc when wot is such a huge land with diverse races

he would never get the show out of concept if he didnt show his woke overlords a mixed race cast.spoilers for season 3 ahead

>seanchan will be exclusively white males
>every flashback to past heros will be poc
>element of male and female working together before the breaking to make amazing world will be removed
>men breaking the world will be highly emphasized
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I've only watched the first episode and wasn't impressed due to relentless lore breaking and needless changes from the book. Does it get any better?
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>>159686334
expanse s4 and s5 were ass, so i do not have high hopes. especially considering that they pozzed away a main character (and one of their best actors).
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>>159686304
hype
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>>159686280
God I hope that leaks wrong..
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>>159686376
rafe is as woke as they get, you fucking faggot
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Aviendha best girl.
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>>159686384
Expanse at it's absolute worst is still miles ahead of the 3 episodes of WoT we've gotten.
I'll never not be pissed over the Alex thing, but the reality is he doesn't do fuck all post book 5 anyway so it's not that big of a change.
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Why is Dragonmount a small hill?
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>>159686376
>seanchan will be exclusively white males
Lol, what?
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>>159686403
i just hope the ogier don't look too fake
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>>159686442
They didn't have the budget to make an actual mountain
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>>159686459
kek
he doesnt know
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>>159686403
It's not. There's at least half a dozen different leaked photos that all look pretty much identical. That's Loial. They MIGHT do something with CGI to make him more magical like giving him the long ears or whatever, but I honestly doubt it and wouldn't hold my breath.
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>>159686438
i don't care about if it's better than wot, which is the kind of terrible that requires genuinely hard work to achieve. i care about if it's good enough to be entertaining, which is looking very doubtful.
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>>159686442
I guarantee you rafe's team is filled with people that hate the dragon and rand - just like lucasfilm is filled with people that hate luke
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>>159686156
how can anyone like this cliche, full of trophies trash?
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>>159686497
We're getting glorious Laconia. It's far more entertaining than Wheel of Time.
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>>159686511
>hate the thing that pays your bills
>slowly destroy it
>be homeless
>why is this happening?.jpg
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>>159686553
>be homeless
that’s not how pedwood works, they’ll get raises and positions on new productions
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why.. why did they take a stoy i loved so much and inject NIGGERS and INDIANS everywhere. why did they ruin such a magical story bros.
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>>159686591
to hurt you

no, really
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>>159686304
it actually gets good in two weeks
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>>159686511
It's worse. It's full of people that think they can do BETTER by changing the source material to make it more "in line" with todays "standards".

I wouldn't give a shit if the people on the team hated the Dragon and Rand, as long as they still gave us a decent adaption. But hating the Dragon and Rand AND thinking you can do better? That's a line these fuckwits should never, ever cross.

There's a reason why Robert Jordan sold MILLIONS of copies of his books and why these literal nobodies are part of a group-think exercise who haven't published a single written word in their life, much less sold them.
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>>159686376
>To his credit, he seems to know the series.
If that's what you gathered from the AMA you must be fucking braindead or a shill
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>>159686637
What makes you think contrary anon?
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>>159686590
its amazon so they might be homeless afterwards
lucasfilm..yeah they just move to the next IP like the parasites these cucks are
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>>159686591
The idea that this upset you gets these people off anon. This is a feature, not a bug.
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>>159686602
>the books are good if you get 2 million words in
nigga please
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Wheel of Cheese S01E010 "Into the Blight"

Egwene leads Moraine, Lan and the Edmond Fielders into the Blight because she believes she can find the Eye of World. The Green Man (Snoop Dog) explains to Egwene that Moraine is a dark friend and she must kill her before he can give her the Dragon Banner. Egwene teaches herself the weave for balefire and defeats Moraine. Lan flees.

Perrin prepares tea for the ladies.

Martin and Thom discover a poppy field near the Eye and discuss plans to move product to Ebou Dar.

Rand is fully excised from the story without an explanation.

The Ogier and the Green Man perform sex magic and close off the Eye from the Blight.

Bela approaches the Eye and drinks from the strange liquid without being harmed.
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>>159686300
We get it you hate everything
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>>159686751
god dammit it bela
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>>159686659
His vague meme responses to every single slow ball question and his complete avoidance of all questions posed from a directly critical angle. He may have read the series and, hell, he may even have enjoyed it, but he sure as fuck doesn't understand it or what RJ was trying to do.
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>>159686751
>the green man
I always knew Shreks comeback would be huge
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>>159686836
oh no no no no
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>>159686836
Lightbros...is this it for us?
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>>159686836
I really appreciate how they've made it obvious Moiraine is the main character and sole protagonist. It was so clear in the books.
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>>159686864
Don't worry, Rafe has an awesome idea. It'll end on a cliffhanger, and in Season 2 we will it was just a dream.
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i win again, lews therin
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>>159686794
what questions would you have liked him to answe anon
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>>159686836
bro I cant wait for Rand to go over to the dark side
this would be actual kino if he fought on the other side and win
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>>159686915
You Mormon fag.
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>>159686971
I hate Mormons
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>>159686918
>rand becomes nae'blis
>starts murdering women and darkies (read: niggers)
>becomes the only developed character that isnt perfect from the start
>huge cult following
>rated most popular character
wokebros... not like this
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>>159687030
Ok, you ex-mormon gag
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>>159686915
How about
>What the flying fuck are you doing to get so many things so wrong in such a short period of time all while making the show look cheaper than Xena?
or
>Why are you mischaracterizing every single protagonist and changing things that even Hackderson found questionable?
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>>159686918
‘Look I know Rand says he’ll never join Shaitan about 1000 Times in the book, but what we’re suggesting is... maybe he does?’
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>>159687147
synagogue of satan strikes again
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>>159687147
Moiraine would absolutely be terrified at the thought of Rand joining up. She herself threatens to kill them before letting them go.
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>>159687076
I read his answers as well so Ill do the honour and play Rafe in this 4chan AMA.

>What the flying fuck are you doing to get so many things so wrong in such a short period of time all while making the show look cheaper than Xena?
Budget constraints and amazon people who give directives regarding pacing. With TV you can never go as big as the movies and I know it shows, but it's the best weve gotten for our money.

>Why are you mischaracterizing every single protagonist and changing things that even Hackderson found questionable?
Some things work in the books that would never do in TV. Do you have a character in mind you'd like me to explain?
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>>159687147
>dude that would hella fucking epic! They would never expect that, this is going to subvert them so good. Oh this is so exciting and I think Jordan would have loved to explore this avenue.
t. actual conversation in the writing room
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>>159687147
The Dragon isn't Rand this time. It's Egwene. And she would 100% join the Dark One if given the right offer.
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>>159686619
can’t believe they changed so much for the worse and dumbed it down to that extent. all the writing lacks any nuance and removed all of Jordans great dialogue
>obligatory jump off a cliff into a fast flowing stream rite of passage that’s not even in the books
>”men tried to harness the darkness”
>Moiraine as the main character
>Infodump at the start of the series instead of leaving things mysterious and learning thing as the characters do
>Obligatory aging of characters for no clear reason
>moiraine is flailing around like an idiot to wield the one power
>rand and egwene already together and all we know about them is that they like to look off into the distant together pondering who the fuck knows cuz we don’t even know shit about them enough to imagine what they’re thinking.
It’s a shit show man it’ll be forgotten unless they really improve it next season.
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>>159687231
yes Perrin, you faggot, and he's the least favorite of the 3, for me
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>>159687228
not to mention verin, who comes close a few times in the books already

cadsuane ain't got shit on verin desu
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I suspect Rafe has a bunch of twink writers on staff who were hired because they have no qualms when it comes to referring to him as Lord Rafe.
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>>159687282
no it's rand. Egwene is the hero, that slays the dragon and evil men
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>>159687282
it's a real shame that RJ never went through on the forsaken egwene plotline
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>>159687076
Exactly what I thought you would say.

>b-b-but perrin is white.
>b-blackwashing is as bad as whitewashing

cringe. white fragility is hilarious. why would he answer such obvious questions? he would never get the show off the ground without showing amazon a cast that was full of quadroons. the changes to Mat and Perrin are obvious. Perrin is introverted and doesn't play well on screen. he needed a plot device to make his character adverse to warfare. Mat doesn't really have good development in the first couple books. Until he dies and comes back pretty much. This is coming from someone who thinks the Nynaeve is gross. Shes a gross ugly nigger but you deal with what you're dealt. If it's a deal breaker for you then leave the thread. Leave the show. No one is forcing you to watch.
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>>159687354
he has a plot device in the first book ,you faggot, just stop, its pathetic
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>>159687282
Rafe has already 100% confirmed that Rand is still the dragon, and the "mystery" surrounding who it is is purposefully being obfuscated for non-book readers. By the end of season 1 it will be very apparent that Rand is the Dragon Reborn.
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>>159687290
Ok here we go. (Actual answer from ribbit)

Well, firstly in the longer version of the script I'd had Perrin being the apprentice to the town blacksmith, who he then accidentally killed during the Trolloc attack. It really was important to me that he have an iconic moment of violence in the first episode that would underpin his long term journey with violence and whether he'd choose the axe or the hammer.
So I'd made that blacksmith his mom. But as we had to trim a bunch of page length down in the scripts, it became a simpler story to tell it as his wife, and also felt natural that if these characters were in their early 20s in a small mountain village, that one of them likely would be married. There's a scene in the books where Perrin talks about if he'd stayed in the Two Rivers he might've married Laila Dearn, and voila, Laila was born.
My only sadness is we couldn't have seen more of her. Helena Westerman who played her was AMAZING
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>>159687411
>important to me that he have an iconic moment of violence
iconic for its stupidity I guess
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>see screencaps saying plebittors talking about who the dragon is will be banned
I don’t get it, are these retards so fucking stupid that they’re worried about spoilers for a decades old series, or are they genuinely trying to pull off a red herring?
Either option seems mind shatteringly retarded, but in that cess pit I can’t rule anything out and I’m sure as fuck not going there to find out.
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>>159687411
>So I'd made that blacksmith his mom.

Not his father...
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>>159687411
cringy stuff
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>>159687470
gandalf gets killed by snape btw
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>>159687487
rafe, like all degenerate leftists, seems to have an issue with fathers
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>>159687354
>White fragility is hilarious
>mentions whitewashing
Gee, maybe if others races weren’t so fucking fragile ‘whitewashing’ wouldn’t be a big deal, yeah?
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>>159687411
fucks sake, what the fuck is wrong with this guy, it would be master luhhan , fucking hell
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>>159687553
Wtf he hasn’t even got on the Death Star yet
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>>159687558
I brought up racebending because anon i was replying to obviously has an issue with it.
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>>159686156
>we want the minecraft autist audience
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>>159687487
It was vitaly important that Perrin kill a woman. His relation to her didn't matter, just that she was important and had a vagina. Please understand.
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>character is a "questioner", part investigator, part inquisition
>he has to be some evil genius son of a bitch to kill so many aes sedai without having a huge army
>he meets some minor noble lady
>she tries to act all normal
>actually it turns out she's hiding a serious injury and there are trollocs nearby
>for some reason she didn't tell them this to start
>this doesn't immediately raise serious alarm bells that there is more going on here and that she has been trying to hide things from the children of the light
>he seems to at least figure out something is off but doesn't capture them right then and there
>the rest of the children of the light should seriously have clued in that this was suspicious as all fuck
>i guess they're brain dead lawful stupid paladins
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Who was the most obsessed person over Rand?
Demandred, Lanfear, Moridin or Gawyn
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>>159686836
this is fake right? I dont have prime but at least on their website it only has 3 episodes up
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>>159687646
Brandon Sanderson
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>>159687646
Mat, Nye and the 3 wives you retard
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>>159687646
Lews Therin. Fucker wouldn't leave him alone.
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>>159687646
Which character is Rand again, asked Rafe.
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>>159687646
You're forgetting Masema
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>>159687570
Master Luhhan is strong male role model for Perrin, can see why he had to go.
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>>159687411
What is so wrong about portraying a father son relationship? Especially if they're black. Seems wholesome. Is that not good enough for trannys anymore?
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>>159687632
You forgot
>the suggest Moraine find an Aes Sedai to heal her wounds
Which is quite possibly the biggest "fuck you" to the series so far.
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y'all are dramatic, this show is very promising so far. Most shows need 3 seasons at least before you can actually critique them
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>>159687763
>they're black
anon you just solved why his father is not in the series. how could we forget?
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>>159687797
>the bait
I-It's too strong bros...I-I can't resits...must...reply
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>>159687797
Fuck off. Game of Thrones was a phenomenal adaption from the first scene of episode 1 and didn't turn awful until 3+ seasons into the show.
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>>159687763
homos, fatherhood, pick one
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>>159687763
the faggots working on the show were all raped by their fathers
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>>159687632
>act blatantly suspicious as fuck
>this was Moiraine's masterful attempt to talk her way through
>and it works
Amazing writing.
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>>159687646
Moiraine, she groomed him and would've rode the Dragon if the need arose.
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Reply to this post predicting the most woke and egregious scenarios you can think of


>Elayne is black
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>>159687962
Elayne is already cast. She's a redhead, they'll prolly dye her hair. Avi is almost confirmed to be a redhead too.
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>>159688024
I didn't say it had to be confirmed true or false. We are helping Rafe write the show.
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>>159687962
rahvin is black and rapes morgase and elayne and a harem of white servants
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>>159687962
i can't come up with anything worse than what they have already done
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>>159687962
Egwene actually will be the Dragon.
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Would it be fine to just read the first three books? I don't really want to sink my time into 15 of them.
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>>159688127
would it be fine to just watch fellowship of the ring?
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>>159688127
b3 ends on a now-shit-is-really-getting-started point
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>>159688127
The first 5 are really good imo. But he loses control and then died (lol.) Brandon did an ok job finishing the series. Just read them all.
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>>159688127
Give it a try, if they're your thing you definitely won't drop them after three though
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>>159688127
Read the first 6. The ending of book 6 is one of the best endings in any fantasy novel, ever. The series takes a steep nosedive from books 7-11 and by the time it gets "good" again, Sanderson has taken over and absolutely butchered most of the characterizations.

But those first 6 books, especially the lead up the end of book 6, are fucking fantastic.
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>>159688184
how the fuck do you try and discount lord of chaos? you disingenuous fuck
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>>159688210
This
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>>159688169
>>159688178
>>159688184
Fair enough. Thanks, anons.
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>>159688210
11 is fantastic, wtf are you talking about?
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>>159688127
I'll be honest. As a teenager I loved the series, as an adult I hate it. But the first three are fun and comfy. Maybe even the first 5. But it is basically pulp. I'm ashamed that I used to like the series as much as I did. It's just comfy, which is perhaps why so many are enraged, the best thing about it the series is the coming of age bit, the innocence, but that shits totally gone in the tv series, so you're left with a bunch of tropes and woke fag stuff that got added in.
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>>159688232
>"Kneel and swear to the Lord Dragon," he said softly, "or you will be knelt."'
Still sends shivers up my spine some 25 years later.
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>>159688024
Avi is going to be blonde and will have to dye her hair red.
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>>159688327
Hello fellow Wheel of Time chad. From reading the entire series multiple times, how can the show possibly compete with what the books have to offer? I am worried bro.
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>>159688313
you are a faggot and completely disingenuous, 6 is the best, 9 is great, the endings of 7 and 8 are great, the ending of 9 is fantastic, 11 in its entirety is great, only 10 sucks and RJ agreed
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>>159686280
why is loial a hairy black man
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>>159686156
>THE DARK ONE IS BUILDING AN ARMY
>Black girl running
>More fantasy cliches
All I needed to see from the trailer to know this is unwatchable shit.
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The supposed male lead is like the most annoying character so far. Dude really does remind me of Hayden in the prequels too. Other than that it’s interesting enough.
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>>159687962
>elayne is a feminazi transgender
>min is a polyamorous femdom
>aviendha is a fat stupid redneck and then is convinced to try elayne's lifestyle
>lews therin was actually transmale and convinces his successor that they need to be both genders to unite the source
>the evil trader morphs into donald trump
>an evil male channeler named ryle kittenhouse blasts poor defenseless innocent aiel lives demonstrators and everyone agrees he has gone insane
>bela joins peta
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>>159688414
It can't, but at this point all we can hope for is that they actually get to the Dumais Wells part so we can see it play out in full glory, even though I'm sure they'll fuck it up completely.
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>>159688356
Yeah probably. Natural redheads are rare, kinda backwards to have elayne be the natural one.
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>>159688491
>min is a polyamorous femdom
Disgusting. Min is for supportive lapsitting.
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>>159688446
I'm sorry that you don't understand the difference between subjective and objective. It's ok, there is good news, one die you will die, and then the rest of us will be free of your stupidity.
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posting LoC
>Perrin hesitated before answering. He had dreaded this. He felt about the wolves as he did about Two Rivers people. They have caged Shadowkiller, he thought at last. That was what the wolves called Rand, but he had no idea whether they considered Rand important The shock filling his mind was answer enough, but howls filled the night, near and far, howls filled with anger and fear. In the camp horses whinnied fearfully, stamping their hooves as they shied against the picket ropes. Men ran to calm them, and others to peer into the darkness as if expecting a huge pack to come after the mounts. We come, Half Tail replied at last. Only that, and then others answered, packs Perrin had spoken to and packs that had listened silently to the two-legs who could speak as the wolves did. We come. No more.
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>>159688494
it'll be the white tower, heeding the wise advice of egwene, who bravely save rand from the black tower
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>>159688511
She's already been cast and the actress is redheaded
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>>159687962
Rand and Mat will kiss
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>>159688538
>objective
i'm sorry you believe your opinion is objective, you are the most worthless child of them all, its just your opinion, you fucktard
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>>159688537
She will wear the pants now, anon. :')
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>>159688579
Rand in the Box
>Which one would it be this time? Faces spun through his head. He had marked down every woman when she took her turn at him. They were a jumble now; remembering which came where or when seemed beyond him. But he knew that Galina and Erian and Katerine had beaten him most often, the only ones to do so more than once. Those faces glowed in his mind with a feral light. How often did they want to hear him scream?
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>>159688691
>“The Lord Dragon is down there?” Dobraine asked, looking across Rhuarc. Perrin nodded. “And you mean to go in there and bring him out?” Perrin nodded again, and Dobraine sighed. He smelled resigned, not afraid. “We will go in, Lord Aybara, but I do not believe we will come out.” This time Rhuarc nodded.
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>>159688537
I want to tickle her. She's so cute...
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>>159688579
So good. Post that part when Rand is trying to break out of his box and how he is testing every hard and soft spots in shielding
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>>159688641
Yes it is. So...why would you rail against it? Claim I'm disingenuous? Unless you have a problem distinguishing between objective truths and subjective opinions?

Dummy. See that is an objective truth. You. Are. A. Dullard.
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>>159688598
Elayne yeah, but she's not supposed to be, hence me saying it's "backwards", you'd want avi to be the natural headed chick.
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>>159688741
>Ground covered with brown grass, seemingly empty, suddenly gave birth to a thousand wolves, lean brown plains wolves, and some of their darker, heavier forest cousins, running low to hurl themselves into the backs of the Shaido with snapping jaws just as the first long Two Rivers shafts rained out of the sky beyond them. A second flight already arched high. New lightnings fell with the arrows, new fires bloomed. Veiled Shaido turning to fight wolves had only moments to realize they were not the only threat before a solid spear of Aiel stabbed into them alongside a hammer of Cairhienin lancers.
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>>159687962
Rand's harem cuck him because they're all in a polyamorous relationship
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>>159686156
>>159686156
So they made a clearly european fantasy village into a group of niggers and mutts.... Jews. There is nothing they touch, they do not niggify and destroy.
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>>159688780
>Snatching his axe free, Perrin hacked down a Shaido in his way and leaped over the man as he fell. They had to reach Rand; everything rested on that. Beside him Loial’s great axe rose and fell and swung, carving a path. Aram seemed to dance with his sword, laughing as he cut down everyone in his way. There was no time to think of anyone else. Perrin worked his axe methodically; he was hewing wood, not flesh; he tried not to see the blood that spurted, even when crimson sprayed his face. He had to reach Rand. He was slashing a path through brambles.
>>159688774
thats next post
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>>159688854
>Rand could not have explained what he did next, though Lews Therin had explained how; explained between drifting off into his own mad fancies, between towering rages and wailing over his lost Ilyena, between gibbering that he deserved to die and shouting that he would not let them sever him. It was as if he flexed what he had extended through the knot, flexed it as hard as he could. The knot resisted. It trembled. And then it burst. There were only five. The barrier thinned.
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>>159686282
Elayne was a hypocritical spoiled little shit who never learned how the real world worked, or understood anything outside her realm of the palace after 14 books. The children she raised were one of many clear indications that she was a spoiled shit and her children were as bad as she was. Entitled character who never learned about a days meaningful hard work and thought a hiding with a fucking SLIPPER was the most painful cruel punishment her teenage brain could conjure...
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>>159688919
yeah she's great
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>>159686438
The expanse is shit and always has been.
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>>159687962
Only the Shaido clan will be White; other clans are diverse af.

When they adapt Dumai's wells a coalition of diverse Asha'man and Aes Sedai will snuff the entire Shaido clan.
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the aiel will be short
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>>159688912
>When he reached for saidin, the invisible barrier was still there, but it no longer seemed stone or brick. It gave as he pressed, bending under his pressure, bending, bending. Suddenly it tore apart before him like rotted cloth. The Power filled him, and as it did, he seized at those three soft points, crushing them ruthlessly in fists of Spirit. Aside from that, he still could only channel where he could see, and all he could see, dimly, was the inside of the chest, what he could glimpse of it with his head forced between his knees. Before he even finished with the fists of Spirit, he channeled Air. The chest exploded
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>>159688919
Based Elayne causing seethe since the 90s
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The time you are wasting watching this trash show is the time you could spend reading or listening to the wonderful work of Robert Jordan.
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Soon white people will be bred out of existence. And then we will change all your Rands into Othellos.
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>>159687962
>Seanchan written out entirely
>Therefore Moghedien never gets captured with an a'dam because they don't exist
>This means all the shit she teaches the rebel Aes Sedai are just discovered by Egwene instead
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>>159689054
>Free, Lews Therin breathed, and it was an echo of Rand’s thought. Free. Or maybe the other way around.
>They will pay, Lews Therin growled. I am the Lord of the Morning.
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>>159689134
How in the living fuck are they going to do LTT being inside of Rands head.
Surely they're not just going to do a cheesy voice over, right?
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>>159689159
simple, they wont
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>>159689054
You can taste desperation as he's working on it. I only wish he would still every Aes Sedai after he breaks free but he only make them unconscious. Thanks for posting
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My favorite part in all the books is when Perrin needs the help of wolves in order to save Rand from the box.. and he isn't sure exactly how to say it. So he tries:

>"They have caged Shadowkiller"

And instantly he hears hundreds of wolves howl out in unison, and a collective voice delivering the message "We come."
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>>159686420
this is a factual statement.
aviendha was cool mostly despite a couple excessive im going to murder you cause im tribal bits and but generally realistically portrayed as a woman from a legitimate female warrior caste system
Elayne was a spoiled cunt who never understood the real world despite 14 books. She still continued to use the 'im the daughter heir, do what I say, arent I cute enough for you to just listen to me? WHY ARENT YOU LISTENING!?"
EqqWayne or whoever you fucking spell it, started off ok even if you accept everytime she was a hypocritical cunt(because almost the entire female species in this world is because they have been in power and abused it for 1000years and got big dicks about it) but was soon pushed into the role of power, which she lets go to her head and thinks she the leader of the free world and all men should bow to how she thinks while still being a hypocritical blind tosser.
moiraine was ok
swan was alright
Min was cool and really doesnt have any particular faults. Had a job, and wasnt a hypocritical cunt
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>>159689159
he's going to be aghost hat only rand can see they set it up first scene, no really thats what its going to be no question, and now you all have to have for next bit of LoC as I'm going to go have a smoke
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>>159686918
That would be probably only interesting change they could do. They've said this is another turning of the wheel, mostly as an excuse to butcher the characters and cast niggers etc. Well Jordan has stated that in other turnings, the Dragon went over to the dark (which ended in a stalemate). Rand joining the dark one would be an interesting change, but I really doubt the writers have the competency to write any what if scenario. Everything they've "created" has been garbage so far.
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>>159689266
We come
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>>159689244
Didn't he still some of the Aes Sedai that held him shielded?
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>>159686918
>the season 1 finale has the dragon turning to the dark side
>all other 14 books are devoted to him raping every female character in the books
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>>159689266
WE COME BROTHER
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>>159689432
we coom
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>>159687856
actually no, as a bookfag I was livid at the pacing and how much shit that I loved in the books (minor characters, locations, scenes) simply couldnt be fit in 50 minutes

wheel of time is way better so far than the first GOT episodes
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>>159689299
>>159689432
if they do it im gonna suck rafes cock
screencap this
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>>159687459
Not really, it's in Perrin's actual in book backstory that he is the way he is from being autistic about hurting others but it's hard to deal with that in an hour when you have 300 others things to show and have to gtfo out of emond's field and have the trollocs sack the place. I'm not saying I like it, but I understand it.
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>So many good books/series to choose from
>Amazon picks the worst one

Why are you so surprised that this shit is tanking hard?
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>>159689425
He stilled 3 at the same time, rest either fled or were made unconscious.
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>wheel of time is way better so far than the first GOT episodes
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>>159689575
It's not tanking though. Look at the numbers.
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>>159689631
no one in this thread believes this anon
its mostly shitting on wot
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>>159689631
Said no one
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>>159689647
>look at the numbers it's doing fine
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>>159689631
If you honestly believe this you must be retarded. After the first episode of GOT /tv/ literally exploded. First season completely dominated this shit hole.
Second season and the changes they made started turning bookfags off.
By red wedding all the bookfags were openly hating the tv show. Rest is history.
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>>159689134
Rand stealth knocks out the aes sedai that captured him also shields them and ties of the weave, he hates hurting women so thats why he doesn't kill them, it all goes back to illyana btw
>Warders and green-coated soldiers fought in clumps against Aiel, and Aes Sedai surrounded themselves with rains of fire. But there were Aiel fighting Aiel as well; men with the scarlet siswai’aman headband and Maidens with red strips tied to their arms fighting Aiel without. And Cairhienin lancers in their bell-shaped helmets and Mayeners in red breastplates were suddenly among the wagons too, striking at Aiel as well as Warders. Had he finally gone mad? He was conscious of Min, pressed against his back and trembling. She was real. What he was seeing must be real.
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>>159689647
It's tanking on every reviewer metric I've seen. Both by professionals and the audience.

It's still in the novelty phase. No different than the Witcher, but with zero charisma. People are searching for the next Game of Thrones, but this ain't it. I will be surprised if this lasts for more than 3 seasons before getting canceled. It looks like absolute dogshit, considering how much money they spent.
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>>159689526
not him but that's another major failing of the show so far. They tried to shovel far too much into the first episode. Having it end in the village attack and them leaving was far too rushed and the show characters had no time to breath or to feel like actual believable characters.
Jewkins seems hellbent on rushing through the first book and despite how generic it is I feel like that's a huge mistake. You need to get people invested in your show right away, not pull a "it gets good in later seasons."
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>>159687741
>>159687646
youre both forgetting Padawon Thain- merchant youngling of the darkside
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>>159689688
Lurk moar.
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>>159689767
Believe that's because they've said the producers vetoed a 10 episode season and a 2 hours pilot. They worked with what they got.
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>>159689815
I'd been in /wot/ threads since day 1.
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>>159689744
I'm skipping large portians btw, obviously, yes Taim is coming next post
>The angular woman did not look at him or stop shrieking even when he knocked her over against the low stone coping of a well as he crawled past. Desperately he wondered why no one came to her screams. Halfway to Min he became aware of lightning bolts lancing out of the sky and fireballs exploding overhead. He could smell wood burning, hear men shouting and screaming, the clash of metal, the cacophony of battle. He did not care if it was Tarmon Gai’don. If he had killed Min. . . . Gently he turned her over.
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>>159689754
uh
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How many good original series does Amazon prime even have?

Genuinely asking.
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>>159689894
The Office Jim vs Terrorists season1 was pretty entertaining
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>>159689847
Not my problem.
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>>159688491
sounds a bit like what netflix did to the castlevania series actually. They made dracula trans and being trans was the ultimate lifeform... jews, amiright?
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>>159689859
these snippets are okay i guess but they aren't what jordan would be writing today.
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>>159689859
ok lied have to post this part because its just funny
>Suddenly Gawyn was reining a bay stallion up not ten steps in front of him, sword in hand and twenty or more green-coated men riding at his heels. For a moment they stared at one another, and Rand prayed he would not have to harm Elayne’s brother.
>“Min,” Gawyn grated, “I can take you out of here.”
>She peeked past Rand’s shoulder to shake her head; she was holding on to him so tightly, he did not think he could have pried her loose had he wanted to. “I’m staying with him, Gawyn. Gawyn, Elayne loves him.”
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>>159689995
yes Geroge stole younglings from RJ
>With the Power in him, Rand could see the man’s knuckles go white on his sword hilt. “Jisao,” he said in a flat voice. “Rally the Younglings. We are cutting a way out of here.” If his voice had been flat before, now it went dead. “Al’Thor, one day I will see you die.” Digging his heels in, he galloped away, he and all the others shouting “Younglings!” at the top of their lungs, and more men in green coats cutting a way to join them with every stride.
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>>159690044
I mean she's perfect for Liadrin, she's got that Karen energy.
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>>159686201
This one? Almost all of them are.
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One of the Twitter of time dorks just posted a video of her lifting 310x4 and now my dick is hard, hard like cuiendillar..
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>>159690059
here comes the BT
>A man in a black coat darted in front of Rand, staring after Gawyn, and the ground erupted in a gout of fire and earth that toppled half a dozen horses as they reached the wagons. Rand saw Gawyn sway in the saddle in the instant before he beat the black-coated man to the ground with a mace of Air. He did not know the hard-faced young man who snarled at him, but the fellow wore both the sword and Dragon on his high collar, and saidin filled him.
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>>159686229
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>>159689972
>an abomination sewn from man and woman where dracula and his wife's soul are forced into and it drives them into madness is a tranny

you really want to ruin every cool shit in fantasy to the point where nothing beyond fireballs is politically correct? please stop watching wheel of time that has gender changes via reincarnation as canon
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>>159690125
>In an instant, it seemed, Taim was there, blue-and-gold Dragons twined around the sleeves of his black coat, staring down at the fellow. His collar bore neither pin. “You would not strike at the Dragon Reborn, Gedwyn,” Taim said, at once soft and steely, and the hard-faced man scrambled to his feet, saluting with fist to heart.
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>>159690184
Oh I get it, they needed to go to Translyvania.
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>>159688960
>>159689086
Ill give you that. Fucking hate that character

>>159688989
Fucking damnit... you are probably right
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>>159690243
Ok next post I'm just getting to it
>Taim turned to Rand, that almost-smile on his lips. “Under the circumstances, I trust you will not hold it against me, violating your command about confronting Aes Sedai. I had reason to visit you in Cairhien, and. . . .”He shrugged. “You look the worse for wear. You will allow me to—” The slight twist of his lips flattened as Rand stepped back from his outstretched hand, pulling Min with him. She hung on tighter than ever.
>Lews Therin had begun ranting about killing as he always did when Taim appeared, rambling madly about the Forsaken and killing everybody, but Rand stopped listening, walled the man off to the buzzing of a fly. It was a trick he had learned inside the chest, when there was nothing to do but feel at the shield and listen to a voice in his head that was insane more often than not. Yet even without Lews Therin, he did not want to be Healed by the man. He thought if Taim ever touched him with the Power, however innocently, he would kill him.
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>people asspained that the literal apocalypse and genocides being caused by male channelers driven insane by the blighter male part of magic will be empasised

can you for 1 second use some imagination and understand that in that world that is the apocalypse that happened, its called the breaking of the world, 0/10 stop trying to trigger me by implying literal basic parts of wheel of time lore are somehow not ok to be shown on tv

niggers
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>>159690125
>>159690243
Gedwyn BTFO. He jobs to Fain in WH
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>>159690318
Post excerpts from Towers of Midnight next so that we may compare and contrast Jordan's and Sanderson's prose
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>>159690318
>He would as soon let Perrin go back into that maelstrom as abandon them. But it could not be for the Wise Ones or the Two Rivers folk. “Sevanna wants my head, Taim. Apparently she thought she could take it today.” The emotionless quality the Void gave to his voice, was appropriate. It did seem to worry Min, though; she was stroking his back as though to calm him. “I mean to let her know her mistake. I told you to make weapons, Taim. Show me just how deadly they are. Disperse the Shaido. Break them.”
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>>159690184
Alucard being fucked by a dude in season 3 wasnt enough for you to say this show has some fag agenda?
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>>159686547
why does it have a butt for a mouth?
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>>159690568
used your mom as a model
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>>159690450
no, maybe
>>159690452
>“Grady, raise the Banner of Light!” Taim called, and the Power made his voice boom. On flows of Air, Jur Grady lifted the crimson banner out of a surprised Dobraine’s hand and raised it all the way through the hole in the top of the dome. Fire burst around it and lightning flashed as brilliant red lifted amid the smoke billowing up from the burning wagons. Rand recognized a number of the men in black coats, but he knew only a few names aside from Jur’s. Damer and Fedwin and Eben, Jahar and Torval; of those, only Torval wore the Dragon on his collar.
>“Asha’man, form line of battle!” Taim boomed.
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>>159690557
see how all the characters in this thread from the book are white and not shit mutts? ya, thats because they are white. The niggs show up later in the book and do have their moment, but as it is, it is jewish trickery as usual. Slowly, I'd come to hate them
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Imagine not picking up the rights for pick related and surpass Game of Thrones effortlessly.
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>>159686280
make way for lolal
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>>159690651
>Black-coated men rushed to place themselves between the barrier and everyone else, all of them except Jur and those watching Aes Sedai. Except for Nesune, who peered intently at everything, the Tower lot had sunk listlessly to their knees, not even looking at the men who had them shielded, and even Nesune still looked on the point of sicking up. The Salidar group stared coldly at the Asha’man guarding them for the most part, though now and then they turned those icy eyes on Rand. Alanna stared only at Rand. His skin was tingled faintly, he realized; for him to feel it at that distance, all nine must be embracing saidar. He hoped they had enough sense not to channel; the stony men facing them held saidin to bursting, and they looked as tense as the Warders fingering their swords.
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>>159690716
that man has cute boobs
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>>159686282
not even the best andoran
Her mom was infinitely better and even got mindbroken by a forsaken chad
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>“Asha’man, raise the barricade two spans!” At Taim’s command, the edges of the dome rose all around. Surprised Shaido who had been pushing at what they could not see stumbled forward. They recovered instantly, a black-veiled mass surging forward, but they had time for only a stride before Taim’s next shout. “Asha’man, kill!”
>The front rank of the Shaido exploded. There was no other way to put it. Cadin’sor-clad shapes burst apart in sprays of blood and flesh. Flows of saidin reached through that thick mist, darting from figure to figure in the blink of an eye, and the next row of Shaido died, then the next, and the next, as though they were running into an enormous meat grinder. Staring at the slaughter, Rand swallowed. Perrin bent over to empty his stomach, and Rand understood fully. Another rank died. Nandera put a hand over her eyes, and Sulin turned her back. The bloody ruins of human beings began to make a wall.
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>>159686420
Min is best girl, but Aviendha better than most.
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>>159690716
is this a blacked ad?
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>>159690812
>chad death stance
Sadly they'll all be doing a funky choreographed dance routine if the show makes it this far.
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>>159690812
Is copy-pasting the entire book the new spam strat?
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>>159690716
>surpass Game of Thrones
People like GoT for the characters, Bakker's characters are ehhh.
Honestly very few in fantasy can compete with GRRM in characters. Robin Hobb, Steven Brust off the top of my head, can't really think of others at the moment.
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>>159690904
>Steven Brust
are you even trying?
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>>159690812
and I think I'm done here, guess I could post the rest, but I'm getting bored, discuss I guess, I'll post kneel but their a bit leading up to that my autism won't allow me to simply post only that paragraph, lead up is important
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>>159690904
>Bakker's characters are ehhh.
Esmi and Achamian are the best chacters I've ever read in a fantasy series.
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>>159690866
i picked bits pieces, their is a shitton I left out, and no see>>159690978
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>>159690831
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>>159690968
>are you even trying?
His characters are fucking bros
>>159690994
I barely remember anything about them as characters honestly, Achamian is a dorky mage, Esme is a whore, can't say they left an impression.
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>>159691051
it will never be a real woman
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>>159690866
This, post more racial slurs and trans-bashing so Amazon can dismiss all criticism from this venue
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>>159690994
>Self insert for author and his dream girl
>Best characters ever
Do you ever read one book?
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>>159690716
Based.
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>>159691051
Anyone can buy a bloodcollector anon. Even men
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>>159687354
go 41% yourself
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>>159691083
The only "interesting" character is fucking vlad
>>159691124
around blacks never relax
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>>159690978
thanks for your efforts, now anyone who's read this thread has read more wheel of time than half the writer's room at the show
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>>159690802
>Morgase is better than Elayne
>Posts Elayne
What did he mean by this?
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>>159687646
Hurin.
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>>159691233
elayne is the cutest wot girl anyway I hate zarine by the way
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>>159691233
oh no
I've been exposed
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>>159690994
Same. Very few fantasy series are actually good, sadly. Which is why I mostly read fiction now.
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>>159687962
Tuon, the Texan white male has his cadre of slaves hold Mat down while he rapes him.
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>>159691374
Is this why they're recasting Mat with a black guy?
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>>159687962
go away rafe, we're not giving you ideas
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These threads seem so much more peaceful during non American hours.
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The waste of time universe is so shit, that I unironically feel bad for every single one of you who was expecting a good adaptation.
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Why are all the men in this show piss ants?
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>>159691414
early outfit for black mat has been leaked
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>>159691485
>I think ...
>If I remember ...
>Weren't ...
I too enjoy reading the bot-tier conversations that samefagging euroschizo has with himself
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>>159691485
Australians are the ones who shit up these threads
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>>159691597
I think you should leave these threads and not return. If I remember correctly, you're a non-contributing drain on the threads. Weren't you the guy who never posts anything interesting or useful and only posts pointless vitriol?
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>>159689128
niggers can't even create the wheel, and you're expecting art to continue
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>>159691620
can confirm mates
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>>159691752
I'm the guy who shits on subhumans like (((you)))
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>>159690716
got wont be surpassed for a very long time
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Zack Stentz, co-writer of Thor and X-Men: First Class, has begun work on a script for Age of Legends, to be based on Jordan’s best-selling series of books, The Wheel of Time, which is already the subject of a long-gestating TV show at Amazon Studios. The fantasy and sci-fi film will be produced by Rick Selvage and Larry Mondragon of iwot productions and Ted Field and Justin Smith of Radar Pictures.

“I’ve been a fan of Robert Jordan’s work for many years, and it is especially his allusions to the origins and backstory of The Wheel of Time that I have always found most intriguing. I’m excited to be bringing this era Robert Jordan conceptualized to life,” said Stentz in a statement.

Age of Legends will be set several millennia before the time of the books and in a futuristic utopia powered by a magical force shared by men and women known as the One Power. When an unspeakable evil is unleashed upon the world and men using the One Power become insane and destroy much of the planet, a small band of women unite under the White Tower and are humanity’s last hope of survival.
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>>159691841
Powder Mage is being adapted, as is First Law.
GOT will be a thing of the past very soon.
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>>159691899
fuck yeah I cant wait for more fantasy to be destroyed by these woke faggots
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>>159691841
It would, if they would produce more series like that.

Can you imagine Game of Thrones being produced today, in the age wokeness?
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Who are the strongest channelers in the books?
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>>159691899
>Powder Mage is being adapted, as is First Law.
>GOT will be a thing of the past very soon.
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>>159691892
>co-writer of Thor and X-Men
stopped reading there
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Capeshit destroyed this industry.
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>>159686201
She looks like she needs a punch to the left side of her face to pop it back in.
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>>159691974
I do believe that woman has lost her composure
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>>159691979
rand probably
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>>159691979
Lews Therin maybe
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>>159691974
That sounds incredibly based, I might actually read those books.
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>>159691974
Is this the crazy lady who did that HEADDESK HEADDESK HEADDESK tor WoT reread HEADDESK HEADDESK HEADDESK?
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>>159691979
Rand / Lanfear, there's an official power ratings, basically every protagonist is strong, the seanchan bitch is supposedly strong asf too.
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>>159691892
>men using the One Power become insane and destroy much of the planet, a small band of women unite under the White Tower and are humanity’s last hope of survival.
It's all just so tiresome.
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>>159691974
Imagine seething this hard over the word "Womanish" in a fantasy series.
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>>159689504
You're fucking lyin', Morgan.
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>>159691979
Rand and uhhhh Nicola
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>>159689504
Wheel of time has niggers. It automatically loses
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>>159691979
Androl
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>>159691185
Idk if they're interesting, but I'd hang out with Morrolan and Aliera in a heartbeat
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>>159691979
There's a power level chart. I can go through it.
++1 (Strongest)
>Rahvin, Ishamael, Rand (and LewS
++2 (Second strongestt)
>Aginor
>Logain
>M'hael
>Demandred
>Sammael

Then you have the rest of the male foresaken, and below them women
1(+12) (Strongest a woman can be)
>lanfear
>semirhage
>that one damane lady olivia

Then they are distributed below, I'll just say some notable ones. Messana is at 2(+11),

Graendal and Nynaneve are at 3(+10), Moggy just below at 4(+9), and Cadsuane just below her.

Elayne and Egwene are wayyyy below that, at 8(+5), Aviendha at 11(+2). Moiraine was at 13 (1) which is what the highest possible Aes Sedai were thought to be able to go to before the events of WoT.

Morgase is the very weakest.
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>>159692319
brandon get the fuck out of this thread you fat fuck
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>>159692319
Fuck off Brawndo Hackerson
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If you go to twitter 90% of women are praising this saying it's a good women series.

I'm glad Rick Jordan legacy is being secure as an ally of feminist
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>>159691979
egwene
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>>159692288
Fucking hate how Jordan just keeps pulling muh strongest channellers out his arse as the series continues
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>>159690059
gawyn is such a dork
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>>159688127
Actually read none of them. It's actually really a really dull and boring series and only seems good when compared to the clusterfuck that the TV-show is.
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>>159692389
The entire point is to show that the Aes Sedai have been missing out on strong members by having fucking retarded rules of recruitment.
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>>159692389
>he doesn't enjoy seeing "top dogs" trying to cope with the fact that they're no longer at the top
post-stilling siuan was pure kino
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>>159692472
not only that but the tainting of saidin, the less and less male channelers, them killing males channelers off has weakened the ability to touch the source throughout generations - more evidence of men (male) and women (female) work best by working together.
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>>159692453
most scenes with him are fucking hilarious he is so incompetent in every way
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>>159692348
So the whole point is that women were in their comfort zone all this time?
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>>159692848
I don't know what you mean by that. The point is that Aes Sedai of this generation are pathetically weak compared to Aes Sedai of the Age of Legends.
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>>159692580
the aes sedai policy of not marrying and not having children probably plays in more - male gentling only excises men born with the spark, which is <1/4, while educating aes sedai removes every woman they can find from the breeding pool.

so if they were competent at recruiting they would actually extinguish channeling in the westlands not by killing all channeling men, but by ensuring that all women capable of channeling do not have children

as an aside, greens must use a lot of abortifacients do fuck their warders all the time without ending up with kids
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Euwgh.
There's an interview with Rosamund Pike on Cuntberg's show.
Euwgh.
She's disgusting, I wouldn't enslave her if she begged for the rest of her filthy life.
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>>159688854
>Aram
I still feel bad for him.
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>>159693053
he chose his fate, twice
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>>159692955
kek, just imagine the shitshow if
>aes sedai start marrying, having kids
>having sons that can channel
>half the tower wants to kill them
I think the tainting of saidin is mainly responsible for those aes sedai policies to begin with - this is just headcanon though
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>>159693254
that's a fair point
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>>159693254
>aes sedai start having kids
>young boys capable of channeling
>by a couple of generations, men overthrow women

based
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>>159693427
>world ends



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