Fuck Tony, the real Boss coming through
>his wife fucked a gym chad>janice killed his brother and tony put his body into a meat grinder>only thing he asked of tony was to protect his son>tony had his son killed anyway>got the blame for a murder tony didliterally the biggest loser on the show
this guy is great, he plays a mob capo in the Deuce
>>157638377Too bad they killed him off so early, the character was really interesting.
I laugh at "chemosabe" every single time I rewatch the show
The moment Tony takes over from him the entire decades old family starts to collapse and 6 years later they're finished.
>>157638603Tony really was a scumbag. Although i thought the culmination of the son acting out felt forced.Never found it believable that he'd get a crew to start shooting at their own guys just because of some stupid story about the old days.
>>157638377Oh yeah? Then why is he dead?
>>157638857It's well established that Jackie Jr. wasn't very bright though
>>157638798>decades old familythey were never a true family, just a glorified crew
>>157638889yea but its not like he was a highschool dropout methhead. The plan was insane, even by criminal standards.It should have been a hit on a rival crew, the Russian mafia etc.. Still stupid, but not biting the hand that feeds stupid
>>157638950Uhh, they literally do meth to get jacked up to rob the card game. Tony and them weren't doing meth or coke to do robberies, they did it clearheaded with a plan in place.Jackie Jr is like a worse-version of Chrissy. Chrissy was just a bit older and so he got to see the real life, even though he did lean into the caricatures in mob movies a lot. Jackie Jr was never part of it, not really. Senior didn't want him in it. Meanwhile Chrissy only hears about his dad Dickie, and Tony. He's in that shit young.So Jackie Jr gets spun up on some story by a dude that's fucked his mom, showing him how to cook, getting him ecstasy, and giving him a gun. So what does he do? He emulates this new father figure who /does/ want him in the life.Makes perfect sense because it's not a crime thought up by criminals; not savvy criminals anyway. It's a crime thought up by a misfit with daddy issues who pisses himself when he gets adrenaline. The only thing that would've made Jackie Jr more pathetic of a character is if he date raped Meadow. It's basically his only redeeming factor.
>>157638629Love his character in the Deuce. The fucking coin machine plotline was super cool. The history of mob owners and gay bars was spot on. It's honestly a great fucking show and is criminally underrated.I love mob types that seem down to earth. Not trying to be greedy, just carving out their piece and getting people to run it for them. He's perfect that way.
>>157638753Yea too bad he was also completely absent from the Prequel for the sake of LOLHAROLD WINS filler
>>157639198He was with Tony when they stole the ice cream truck, and they also fought in the payphone scene.
>>157639166yeah i think a lot of people got put off with the grungy early first season, with maggie getting fake jizzed on and shitbut season 3 is legit a 10/10 season of television
>>157639198Shit still pisses me off
I can’t believe they considered this guy to play Tony
>>157638377>jobs to cancerNo
>>157638377it's a shame they didn't keep him around until the end of the first season. would have liked to see more of him healthy outside of flashbacks
>>157639443Mike realizing he has HIV and going out to the cabin Fucking broke me. Such a cool dude, loyal to the end. And what is it with Lori's actress, this was the 2nd time she was a whore that shoots herself. IIRC she was the girl from Boardwalk who gets her face cut
>>157639572she's also a slutty high school girl on the Leftovers, which is also a great show
>>157638889Didn't he almost drown in three inches of water?
>>157639462He doesn't have the physical presence of Gandolfini sure, but Raspoli would have 10 times better than Steven Van Zandt, who wasn't an actor.
>>157638857If someone else does it>wow epic chad, Tony BTFOIf Tony does it>WOW HE IS SOOO SOCIOPATHIC AND EVIL LIKE THE SHOW SAYS WOW
>>157638603Most of that's on Ralphie kek
>>157638603god damn it spoilers you piece of shit
>>157638377>boss of NJ family>can't even beat cancerShows you that the mob is a joke.
>>157640737Why did you click on this thread? Are you fucking dumb?
Why was jackie boss instead of Tony. Mustve bern one hell of a hot shot
>>157641101He grew up with Tony, Sil (depending on canon) and Ralphie, all good earners, robbed the legendary card game with Tony AND his brother was one of the toughest guys around who served time for murders for the family.
>>157638798It's not only on Tony, it was established early and addressed frequency that the entire mafia is on decline
>>157641382Also it's mentioned he went to the mattresses with it, probably when the old man DiMeo got arrested against a younger DiMeo relative. Tony, presumably Junior and the other Capos all backed him, which is why they got the top spots come season one.
>>157638798I wouldn't say they're finished. That seems unrealistic. The mob manages to hang on with loansharking and gambling. They're not what they once were but they're not dead either. There is still a North Jersey family to this day that is active. It's small and filled with fat boomers but they're there.
>>157641664>It's small and filled with fat boomers but they're there.Like the show
>>157638377He was actually a good fucken boss.He was calm, respected, and reasonable.
>>157640904Just another toothpick.
I hate how they totally blew fleshing out Jackie Sr. in Many Saints. >outta respek to my fawtha
>>157642652>*Tony stabs plate repeatedly while breathing as if he just ran a marathon*
i got a bad headache and watching janice actualy makes it worse
>>157641479Decline yes, disaster no. NY was nowhere near in bad shape as them even after a nasty succession crisis.
>>157642652Why didn't Tony just send J.Jr to fashion school far away? It would've solved his problem, it would've solved J.Jr's problem of being too stupid for med school, etc.