>NOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST ASSASSINATE ME AFTER VIOLATING ALL PREVIOUS DEMOCRATIC NORMS AND TRYING TO INSTALL MYSELF AS A KING 500 YEARS AFTER THEY WERE CAST OUT>IT WAS MY TURN
he was consuela of rome
GAT DAMN I AM MIRIN THAT FOREHEADTHere must be be 1cm between his eyebrows and his hairline
>>150452374>unironically defending the senate of Rome
>>150452553Caesar was a hairlet IRL
>>150452553he reminds me of robert the bruce's reconstructed face
>>150452374>INSTALL MYSELF AS A KING 500 YEARS AFTER THEY WERE CAST OUTwat
>>150452863What's not to get retard
>>150452863The Romans despised monarchy and Caesar's insistence on being hailed as one was a contributing factor to his assassination.
>>150453298It makes no sense. Was Caesar 500 years old?
>>150453487Fuck off, ESL.
>>150453881You must have me confused with OP
>>150453377>The Romans despised monarchythe senate did* the roman people loved caesar since he was just a populist.
>>150452374Ah man thought this was a dumb and dumber thread. What a letdown
>>150452374The senate were a bunch of incompetent richfags that cared more about their petty pissing contests than contributing to roman society. The only thing Caesar did wrong was thinking they had any braincells left.
>>150454884>>150452602>NOOO ACTUALLY HECKIN CAESAR WAS A COMMUNIST JUST LIKE BERNIE
>>150455026Caesar was a reformists. Not a commie.
>>150453487Learn to read.
>gets slandered by christcucks and salty aristocrats' writings for millennia He was a good emperor
>>150455026name one member of the senate that did one good thing in the series
>>150452602Amerilards are obsessed with the roman republic because they LARP that it's "my ancestor :)"
>>150452374This, but unironically. Caesar was based.
>>150454884Caesar only cared about his personal whealth and prestige. Imagine one of your country's general invading the neighbouring country and returning from it, having made his its riches, huge pleb support and troops ready to fight for him again... of course the Senate panicked. Caesar was a right wing populist, and an intelligent one unlike those we have in the present day.
>>150452374And what of Good Solonius?
>>150455892Populist is just used when it's "popular person that I dislike", if the senate had liked Caesar they would hace called him beloved icon or somwthing else.
... AND SPAIN!
>>150452617>this is what a 28 year old man looked like 2000 years ago
>>150452374Remember that part where they antagonized Caesar for no reason and he still gave them mercy? Pepperidge farm remembers.
>>150456056>a member of the 'populares' faction>not a populist
>>150455213>Nero was a neckbeard atheist You can't make this shit up
>>150455892The Senate panicked because Caesar was stopping them from absolutely gutting the middle class by populating the countryside with slaves and then using them to do all the farm work, completely destroying the economy. It's amazing how in your rush to shitpost/scream about right wingers, you inadvertently defend a bunch of billionaire oligarchs who were literally enhancing the institution of slavery. If Caesar only cared for his personal wealth then the Senate was even worse. They provoked a Civil War with a man who had no grudge against them, and would have been forced to stop leading armies had they been more patient purely out of jealousy that he was getting so rich from Gaul.
>>150452374>>150453377>>150456230Reminder Caesar rejected the crown Marc Antony gave him
>>150456368I'm a Caesarfag, but it's obvious to anyone with a brain that he staged it.The question of whether he did so to make his stance clear, or judge the mood is up in the air.
>>150456368reminder that that was a staged stunt that took place during a religious festival
Caesar was Roman Huey Long I thought this was obvious
what were the mystery cults all about anyway?
>>150452374HE WAS A CONSUL OF ROME
>>150455267Circero shared his peaches
>>150456519Based and kingfishpilled.>>150452374Caesar killed the republic, yes, but the republic wasn't worth saving at that point. If the imperial reforms didn't happen, Rome would've just slowly collapsed into something resembling the Alexander kingdoms. It also helped that the average citizen benefited more from Caesar.
>>150452374Caesar lost one hair for every Gaul that he killed
>>150456522If you knew then they wouldn't be mystery cults
>>150455213"Oh what a great artist the world is losing!"
>>150456522They were pyramid schemes used to fund the party of those at the top.
>>150452374You unironically cantHe was dictator, what he says goesThe people also agreed with him, its why brutus and cassius the cuck had to flee rome
>>150458763They did though
>>150458850And guess what happened after
>>150456035Based Good Solonius poster
>>150452374but you see, certain norms and institutions become utterly rotten and toxic over time, it's inevitable. the only way
>>150458941>can't you do anything about that coughing!?
>>150453487Read Roman historyHint: 500 BC
>>150452374>Win a civil war to determine who of the three most powerful individuals in Rome would become the single most powerful and have no competition for being ruler of Rome, whether in name or in spirit>spare the man who is the son of the woman you loved as a youth, who you suspect might in fact be your own son, who fought alongside you on your most difficult campaigns and was like a brother to you on the grounds that he has professed his regrets for siding against you>spare some other guys who are good friends of yours despite siding against you during the civil war because you don't want to kill them and they ought to know better than to start shit again>judged them all incorrectly, they assassinate you>shortly thereafter all the people who betrayed you and most of the Senate get butchered by your loyal friends at the cheers of the furious populace who are completely sick of the Senate's corruption and inability to do anything helpful for the peopleWas Caesar wrong to extend the olive branch to his dear friends who had sided against him in the civil war, or were his dear friends just too stupid to live for killing the one man who everyone in Rome liked?
>>150455213What could be next for the legacy of Nero?
>>150452374Caesar did not want to be a king, he wanted what Sulla got a few decades earlier, i.e. an unlimited dictatorship for life in order to reform Roman society. Caesar simply followed the path laid out by Sulla, but was more successful militarily. Later on, Augustus established the principate under similar terms but with a somewhat different title. The deaths of the Grachi demonstrated that the roman senate was incapable of reforming itself without violence, and that Rome had grown too large and powerful to continue as a pure republic as in Cincinnatus's time. Pleb.
>>150459494by offering them the olive branch and having them turn on him, his people and millions of others for the next two millenia took up his cause. what was left for him, anyway? he was a general, used to breaking lines of bearded gallic barbarians. not a king, whose only pastime was embarassing old men in robes.
>>150459668Augustus just learned that you cant claim absolute power in the openHe just stacked the senate and got his empire that way
>>150458059That poor bastard
>>150459914>He just stacked the senate and got his empire that wayNo he killed all his enemies without mercy and when there was no one left to oppose him he did whatever he wanted, including but not limited to stacking the Senate. If anything, his power was wielded more openly than either Caesar or Sulla, he simply preferred an ancient title and honorific as opposed to Dictater for life.
>>150459798He wanted to go full Alexander and conquer the Parthians
>>150459798>not a king, whose only pastime was embarassing old men in robes.He was a patrician from one of the most powerful families of Rome, well-educated, had served as governor of many provinces and as a senator as well, and was experienced in playing the political game for all his life to great success (and that's half the reason he was voted in as dictator in the first place). His military accomplishments are just so impressive that people like yourself incorrectly assume he was nothing more than a good general.
>>150459494Executing all his enemis would have ensured perpetual war. Those men had families, and family was everything to Romans.
>>150460102Worked for Augustus, Tiberius, Vespasian, Severus.. etc
>>150460102Augustus proceeded to do exactly that, though, cleaning house with all his enemies. Caesar had more than enough political capital and support to execute everyone who had sided against him in the war, but he was not the type of man to kill his friends, for better or for worse.
>>150452374Well yeah, but Roman Senators (Jews) had replaced all the work with slave-labor (outsourcing to Chinese death-camps) and the common Roman Citizens (Whites) couldn't get jobs anywhere except by promoting their agenda (shilling on a Korean basket-weaving forum). Caesar (Trump) was pretty popular before being betrayed by the senate. (Twitter)Can you imagine if that happened today?
wooooow took all you guys to kill me
>>150460449I wish it had happened last year while the big buffoon was trying to become king.>Et tu, Mitt?
>>150460082i assumed no such thing. i just don't believe he found having the throne all that engaging.
>>150460932Penetrating another grown man? Pretty gay, my dudes.
>>150459798He was way more than just a general though.The guy was an extremely bright politician too. He even found the time to fix the Roman calendar with some help from a guy with hellenic culture
>>150460054heckin wholesome caesarino
>>150455213>In a time when actors were considered the equivalent of prostitutes or even lower, Nero loves to compare himself to actors>the equivalent of a conman in power>Hardcore mommy issues and a psycho>Tries to shift the blame by killing christians>Such an idiot that even praised Boudicea and her attempt of rebellionNah fuck off The Julio-Claudian dynasty was full of problems even before Nero, just look at Caligula. Octavius been one of the exceptions.
>>150456522Wouldn’t you like to know
>>150460211Sulla and Augustus knew the score
If these are America's Gracchus brothers, who are the American Sulla and Marius? Have we had an American Caesar yet?
>>150452633>he reminds me of robert the bruce's reconstructed faceHis face looks like Fiona Bruce’s face, so I presume she's a descendant.
>>150464209>American Sulla and MariusIke and FDR?closest there was, except the 1700s dudes
>>150452374>assassinate him for making himself a monarch>continue the monarchy
>>150452374>Democratic NormsThe Roman senate was decadent and corrupt and had lost the faith of the people. Assassinating Julius Caesar didn't save them it merely delayed the inevitable.
>>150456368>Mark Antony just so happens to find a fucking crown during a religious festival>He prevents it to caesar not once, but goes as far to literally put it on his lap after Caesar rejects it once>The whole time caesar is sat in a very public location with thousands watching him>Crowds cheer when Caesar says "I am no king, the only king of Rome is Jupiter"That and the crown appearing on the head of caesar's statue a month or so prior makes everyone realise it was staged and Caesar wanted the crowds to cheer and beg him to crown himself. He would've been so mad they didn't.
>>150453377>Caesar's insistence on being hailed as oneCategorically your headcanon. Stop using Shakespeare as a reference, you pillbug.
>>150464693Lefties are fucking stupid and don't understand history. The Senates reason for killing Caesar is because the people liked him more and he had more sway with them. He was a massive threat to their power and their willingness to kill him only showed how little they cared for the Republic itself.
but what of good Sol- oh... nevermind...
>>150460449This is the inner workings of the rightoid mind
>>150453881>>150453298mad much? lmao
>>150464693>>150464814Damn right. Ironically the senators expected to be hailed as heroes for killing Caesar, instead the people of Rome considered them traitors and murderers.
>>150464209Trump was definitely a populari but no Caesar. Perhaps we’ll get one once SHTF.
>>150452553>THAT FOREHEADit's a threehead
>>150459648Is that Sporus?
*mogs the rome faggot brit version of anthony*
Did Romans speak with English accents?
>>150464468>*immediately followed by tiberius*
>>150464814Rome had been in a state of civil war for 50 years by the time caesar was murdered, the Republic was in gridlock and basically dead. unable to solve the pressing issues of their time.Those senators were the wealthiest landowners from aristocratic families, they didnt give a fuck about the republic because most of them werent even alive when it last functioned properly, they felt their positions of power threatened and decided to act
>>150452374democracy is easily the cringiest thing ever invented
>>150455026Goddamn you are one dumb nigger
>>150465791>>150465667you’re not living in a democracy if that’s what you’re thinking.
>>150455213>Nero: No jaw and neckbeard>Constantinus: Gigachad Jaw
>>150465639Obviously. They also had flattops.
>>150465606The way his voice his breaks mid speech is great, completely mogs Charlton Fagson
>Citizens of Rome missing their feet through accident or illness were taken to the arena, where they were tethered together for Commodus to club to death while pretending they were giants.>Commodus was also known for fighting exotic animals in the arena, often to the horror and disgust of the Roman people. According to Cassius Dio, Commodus once killed 100 lions in a single day.>Later, he decapitated a running ostrich with a specially designed dart and afterwards carried his sword and the bleeding head of the dead bird over to the Senators' seating area and motioned as though they were next.>Cassius Dio and the writers of the Augustan History say that Commodus was a skilled archer, who could shoot the heads off ostriches in full gallop, and kill a panther as it attacked a victim in the arena.>For each appearance in the arena, he charged the city of Rome a million sesterces, straining the Roman economy.Named a more based emperor.
>>150466219I thought they had "Caesar" style haircuts. Also didn't Romans speak Latin? What kind of a show is this?
>>150462714Reminder the Roman reprisal for Boudiccas rebellion was so brutal Nero recalled the general for re assignment.
>>150455892That is literally just describing how the roman political system functioned during the republic.Like, the reason why military and politics were to intertwined was because the spoils of war (of which the general kept like 50%) usually went to funding campaigns for political office
Sic semper tyrannis
>>150462714>In a time when actors were considered the equivalent of prostitutes or even lowerThis has been repeated here so much I'm starting to question if it's even accurate
>>150464209I wouldn't say we've had either yet. The military has managed to stay out of politics for now. If American civic life deteriorates further that may have to change
>>150468794Actors were considered the lowest of the low
>>150466424sounds like he was a real jerk
>>150453377Caesar didn't want to be king, he did the ol' Sulla and installed himself as dictator so fix all the corruption, which would take a lifetime or more to fix.
>>150466116>chosen by god himself to ruleYeah based
>>150464209Closest you got was MacArthur.The Kennedys were most certainly not equivalent to the Gracchis btw
>>150455892>Caesar was a right wing populisthe was pretty far to the left by the days standards
>>150464468why does he look like a Russian?
>>150459494Yes, he was wrong to be merciful to the idiots who fucked him over. Sulla decided to kill all those who ere hostile to him and he died of old age literaly recognized as "felix" (ie=the happiest). His reforms worked, the orligarchs were terrifiedm, he died old, rich, and happy. Ceaser was stabbed before he could see any of his achievements bear fruit
>>150469913Sulla was optimates and actually pardoned Caesar ("there are many Marius in this Caesar")
>>150466631Based General. Next time don't try and usurp your husband's last wishes.
>Assassinate Caesar >Augustus takes over and uses his 500iq mind powers to build an Empire Republicfags btfo
>>150466424Maximinus Thrax, he was a big guy
>>150460449caesar was present when he invaded rome, trump refused to be present at his own coup.
>>150468794Search works that create infamy in the ancient Rome.
Who is the most redditor emperor and why is it Aurelius?
>>150455267Cato killed himself
>>150466424Domitian >unfucked roman coinage>massive public works programs restoring and constructing new buildings>fucked the scots>loved by his subjects>owned the backstabbing senate so hard at every turn that they killed him after 15 yeas to stop the humiliation>rewrite their own history to make Domitian look like a tyrant to assuage their own spinelessness
>>150466424Caligula>Son of the mighty Germanicus>Literal demigod>Fucked his qt sister>Named his Horse a consul >Won a war against Neptune, God of the Sea>BTFO the Senate so hard they have been smearing him for thousands of years
>>150452374>DEMOCRATIC NORMS>Republican Rome
>>150471925All emperors were demigods you haereticus
>>150469073There's a slight difference between Sulla and Augustus is that Sulla actually encouraged said corruption while Caesar wanted to destroy it. There's also the difference that Sulla knew that leaving your enemies alive was a bad idea while Caesar's morals were his downfall
>>150472336justinian was a whipped bitch his wifey had his balls in her pocket
the real best emperor
>>150452617Ironic, since Caesar in Latin means "head of hair, hairy of head, and long of hair."One can imagine how touchy he became over it.
>>150472748I thought it meant elephant
>>150472748no one gave a shit about hair back thenbald fear is a media construct
>>150458941Damn that show was so good
When will we get a kino about Constantine the Great and Jewlian the Apostate?
>>150455079True. Even lefty writer Michael Parenti gave Caesar props for his attempts at reform.
>>150454036the people were fools
>>150456368staged affair death to tyrants where is brutus now
>>150472849Roman's wore wigs and shit, they were arguably much more vain in image obsessed.
>NOOOOOOOO XENA YOU CANT JUST REJECT MY ADVANCES AFTER I HAD YOU CRUCIFIED AND BROKE YOUR LEG THIS IS ROME
>>150472849>being this retardedits an instinctive reaction to find baldness unattractive because poor hair quality can be an indicator of poor health and all attraction is a function of perception of good health
>>150454884the only reason the senate had become like that was the previous prescriptions of Sulla and then Caesar's civil wars inadvertently killing of his senatorial rivals Cato (suicide so caesar couldnt spare him) cicero (a wreck by this time shell really and always abit a pawn) and pompey was a tool of the senate that really should of one the war but for some reason doesnt slaughter caesar feeling army. BUt ye the senate was fucked with retards pretty much after Sulla the senate of the punic wars would of wiped the floor with caesar.
>>150455892"right wing" he wasnt right wing that makes no sense stop trying to add your little tag to things and the reason ceasar had to march on rome was because pompey had an army(in spain little useless for a while) and he had so many legal charges against him that when his pro consul office ended he was going to basically be killed. he also wanted to have his triumph one that he had given up once before
>>150469236>>150464209Trump and Biden are closer to the Gracci Brothers with their stimulus checks the poor will come to rely on (and will eventually demand to continue in perpetuity)
>>150464209people thinking JFK was handsome has got to be the biggest meme of the 20th century
>>150460449>Caesar (Trump)I know you're trolling but there are people who actually believe this and it boggles my mind every time
>>150456035GODS CURSE YOU GOOD SOLONIUS! WOULD THAT YOUR HEAD WOULD FALL BEFORE ME AS SHIT FROM ASS!
>>150472849>(880 BC) From there Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some boys came out of the town and jeered at him. “Get out of here, baldy!” they said. “Get out of here, baldy!” He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the Lord. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys.
>>150471192>>150472436Absolutely patrician taste bros
>>150475017+0.001 Social Credits, Mr. Chingchong-Pingpong.
>>150455213He was a jew
>>150472849>Roman people, Roman people here's your bald, adulterous whore>we pissed away your gold in Gaul now we're back to borrow more
>>150455892>right vs left in Rome Caesar was a progressive and pushed for mass reforms. Cato was a conservative and pushed for traditionalism. You're a communist piece of shit and will have zero impact on history.
>>150460449Do you think America's Bad Emperors will similarly reform the Praetorian Guard to terrorize civilians and cordon off their own private sealed city as a haven for the rich?... Oh.
>>150460449That would be almost as crazy as when Rome fucked their own currency by switching from silver coinage to silver coating a lead core.
>>150452374I like the story about Antony offering Caesar a crown in public, but Caesar making a public show refusing itlovable scamps
>>150477556Go away CNN.
>>150476865STOP POSTING BOOMER MEMES ON 4CHAN GO BACK TO FACEBOOK REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>150452374he literally never said that
>>15047501795% of the "left" thought that