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i just finished the show for the first time, i was left staring at the screen like a tard. if he was whacked, who ordered the hit? was it still the one phil leotardo ordered?
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it was Little Carmine. They wrote his lines to make him seem retarded but if you pay attention he is always warning Tony about his impending doom
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>>149243531
For a second I was thinking it was Paulie because of those weird pauses the episodes had on him.
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>>149243608
Paulie was tony's most loyal guy
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>>149243407
>if he was whacked
He wasn't. The show ends with him alive. All other explanations are fan fiction
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>>149243694
do you guys think the Many Saints of Newark will tell us what happened?
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>>149243407
AGAIN WITH THE SOPRANOS THREADS? WE COULD HAVE TURNED YOUR BULLSHIT INTO A /SPR/ GENERAL ON /TV/!
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>>149243717
I can't imagine a prequel set 30+ years before the finale will give us any insight into the final episode
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A hit is a hit. And this is not a hit.
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>>149243407
Next time put your phone down and pay attention zoomer.
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>>149243407
"Tony got shot" is literal fanfiction. Did we see him get shot? Nope. Did Chase say he got shot? Nope - that reddit-tier misquote from 2020 was simply that and was instantly corrected when the "journalist" tried to claim Chase had "slipped".
>b-b-but the man in the jacket?? he went to the bathroom?? like in the godfather!
We see a guy go to the bathroom. That's it. Going to the bathroom isn't a Godfather reference.
>b-b-but Bobby says you never hear it coming??
Yep and Paulie said the cat was Chris's ghost. Characters say things.
Basically people couldn't deal with not getting a neat little Hollywood ending so they've made up this huge fanfiction about how there was a shooting, even going as far as to claim specific people were responsible. It's pretty pathetic to be honest. Just deal with it. The show ended, that's it.
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>>149243777
well what if it ended with like carmela visiting tone's grave
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>>149243813
It was the Boy Scouts
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>>149243813
This all lines up but the "you never hear it coming" line was such a strong line in the show while Paulie being Paulie was, well, Paulie being Paulie. There was a lot of focus on the man going into the bathroom, multiple shots with just him in it. It's too important to ignore.
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always with the scenarios
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>>149243407
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It was Noah (according to Chase)
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>>149243813
This, but unironically.
The entire point of the "ambiguous" ending is that Tony doesn't die so the viewer doesn't get that satisfaction of getting what they want.
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>>149243908
what a scoop
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Quick, post your top 5 episodes right now, or be labelled a finook for life.
1. Funhouse
2. Whitecaps
3. Whoever did this
4. Commendatori
5. Sopranos Home Movies
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>>149244022
Funhouse
Test Dream
everything else
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>>149244039
>hating on whitecaps, the best romantic fight in TV history
NGMI
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>>149243908
>4 out of like 50 actors
you got em
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>>149243908
who's the woman in the middle? the blonde? don't remember her?
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>>149243915
This. It cuts to dark because Noah punched his fucking lights out
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>>149244112
>3 actors and 2 showrunners
ftfy
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>>149244185
Never heard that one before. Good one, T. Heh heh.
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>>149244190
Weiner was the weakest part of the sopranos, and it was even more evident when he left to work on Mad Men.
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>>149244110
That scene was good but it doesn't make the whole episode good.
>>149244197
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>>149243407
I can't watch shows and movies that don't have smartphones in them, I just can't relate to them
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>>149244146
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>>149243827
yeah, what if anon. jesus
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>>149243407
Thinking Tony gets whacked here is the brainlet choice
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>>149244430
god, meadow was such a beaut.
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>pulls a pistol out of a fish for no reason
>shoot's a man in broad daylight next to a busy road
>jumps on a boat with the corpse immediately afterwards, meaning if anyone would have called the cops it would have been extremely easy to find him since he's the guy in the sports boat on open sea
sopranos is such a stupid fucking show
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>>149245161
wasn't that in season 1? where tony also runs down a passerby in broad daylight with 50 people watching? that was clearly the weakest season of all.
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>>149245161
Yeah season 1 was a lame cartoon glad they let the show grow
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If they're still referencing godfather, yes
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>>149245161
David Chase is a hack and the show was carried by the strength of its actors.

The idiots excited for the movie are gonna be in for a rude awakening.
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>>149245774
chase isn't a hack just because of some silliness in season 1. C'mon. They didn't even think the show would be renewed for a second season at that point.
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>>149245161
How about

>every time someone gets whacked the killer drops his gun without wearing gloves and just casually walks away
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>>149243658
paulie disrespected tony countless times
silvio did it once and writing wise it didn't make much sense
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>>149243908
i don't hate jews why am i suppose to be mad
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>>149243908
I like how you posted that like the middle chick was a reoccurring character lmao
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>>149245865
>remember, always drop the gun
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>>149245865
this isn't a flaw though
>if enough people touch the gun beforehand, say like tony's crew, then the cops can't register fingerprints
>they're usually wearing gloves anyway
>any gun dropped on a crime scene can't be used for evidence if you can't find prints on it
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>>149244022
Trying to avoid the obvious picks here:
>Cold Cuts
>Another Toothpick
>The Ride
>Mayham
>Denial, Anger, Acceptance
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>>149244022
I'll try to not repeat ones you mentioned
1. Cold Stones
2. Amour Fou
3. Knight in White Satin Armour
4. Long Term Parking
5. Made in America
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>>149243658
Did you forget the whole arc where he was in prison feeding info to Johnny Sack and trying to get Tony whacked?
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>>149243908
Schrippa despite having a Jewish mother was entirely raised catholic and Italian.
>>149245774
>The idiots excited for the movie are gonna be in for a rude awakening.
The reason it is going to be bad is because the race riots are the focal point, HBO doing a fair and balanced look at racial relations ain't happening, especially in current year.
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>>149246258
>fair and balanced look at racial relations
this comment just reeks of neo nazism
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>>149243531
The fundamental question is? Will i be effective as a boss as his dad was ,I will be, but until i am its going to be harder to verify that i think i will be more effective
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>>149243407
What are some other great HBO shows? I loved The Sopranos, my favorite show of all time. Already watched Mad Men (mediocre), the Wire (good) and Six Feet Under (great at first, then steadily worse).
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>>149243407
https://youtu.be/hy4AGeuQ5pM
Patsy and Paulie. There was a restroom scene where they both subtlety say everything is in motion.
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>>149243531
He's warning Tony about a hit that he himself is planning?
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>>149243813
3 o clock
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>>149243407
Lessons you learned from watching the sopranos:
>never trust a woman
>make any word you say count, dont talk bullshit
>punish people if they do you wrong so others are reluctant to try
>keep your eyes on the biggest picture
>rule weaklings, do business with wolves
>you dont need to be a model to get good pussy, just be rich and assertive
>keep everyone close for better control
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>>149243908
>on a long enough timeline, everyone becomes jewish
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>>149244236
you dont get 50 just for conspiracy.
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>>149243658
Most retarded post i've seen today
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>>149243658
Paulie was the least loyal which is why it’s ironic that he’s the only member of the upper echelon who survived.
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>>149243658
No, that was Silvio. Paulie was a snakey fuck.
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>>149245161
Who gives a fuck? Like honestly. Stop trying to be Mauler
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>>149246654
You're retarded. Not only is Mad Men fantastic, but it wasn't even HBO. Back to R*ddit please
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>>149249224
Fucking livia old lady was funny at the same time evil
And talking to anagrams
money is always stands on top like ralph
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>>149243870
Wow, showing the perspective of a paranoid boss after a bunch of his guys got gunned down definitely means he got killed. The show started at a random point in tonys life, the show ended at a random point in tonys life
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>>149243531
He was standing on the precipice of a very dangerous crossroads.
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>>149249512
It's not just that, the scene is designed to establish the pattern of Tony repeatedly looking up after he hears the door open, and then cutting to what Tony sees, until the final cut, which is blackness, because that's what he sees after he dies.
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>>149243929
Are you retarded? Chase is on record as saying the writers were turned off by how the fans were taking delight in Tony's awful actions so they kept making him worse and worse. The whole point was to hammer home to the viewer how awful of a person he was. Of course he was going to die in the end. It literally could not be more obvious for like a dozen different reasons, only a capeshitter who needs everything handed to him on a silver platter would disagree.
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>>149246654
I think boardwalk empire is hbo, also black sails, not hbo. Also lillehammer for more silvio
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>>149249546
"Blackness" before season 1 episode 1, "blackness" after the last season. Everything is speculation. The perspective of tony was a creative choice to show his paranoid state, as he obviously would be at that time. Literally the only "proof" is hey, gene had a similar coat, and remember the godfather! Nothing. I can pull more quotes that are ass and mean nothing, like the bobby quote, like how phil said whacking an active boss was wrong then and its wrong now, but phil made the hit? Retarded logic
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>>149249513
Very observant the sacred and the propane
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>>149249791
Just because he didn't beat you over the head with it doesn't mean that wasn't his intention. All the clues are there. If he just showed you Tony getting lit up it wouldn't be nearly as interesting as what he did, which keeps us talking about this many years later. There's nothing to puzzle over in an actual shooting scene. Nobody has to figure out if Big Pussy was killed, we all know he was, so there's nothing interesting to talk about there.

Chase wanted to go out with a bang, but not the bang you expected.
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>>149243777
then you don't know modern hollywood. they will spell it out for the caveman audience
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>>149249853
Same logic could be said with him living. Think what you want, thats really whats great about the ending. I said enough to refute both sides, your babbling is tiresome.
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>>149249224
It's understandable when people idolize bad/evil characters in films because they're shorter but when people literally watch six seasons of sociopaths kill, cheat and destroy everything around them, then still idolize the characters I just LMAO.
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>>149243407
Phil Leotardo's closed casket. Wasn't really Tony's fault, but New York had to put blame on someone.
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>>149249948
>le baiter ebin xDXDXD
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>>149243694
nah its open ended thats why these threads keep popping up every week my open ended ending is that that there just isnt ending making my life much happier than thinkin if hes dead or alive
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>>149249985
You weren't suppose to idolize them. You're a fucking moron.
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>>149249440
Bobby was also extremely loyal and dependable. His history and respect for Junior, then marrying into the family with Janice. Also just the fact that he was a good guy and not a mean-spirited dipshit like almost all the others

Thats why Tony made Bobby his underboss in the end, despite the fact that Bobby wasn't a very feared or respected guy
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>>149250020
>NOOOOOOOOO WHYYY DO YOU IDOLIZE PEOPLE WITH CAN DO ATTITUDES WHO HAVE MONEY AND TAKE WHAT THEY WANT WHY CANT YOU JUST BE A PART OF THE SYSTEMMM NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>149243407
I thought it was pretty obvious, they even mentioned Furio during the season and foreshadowed his urge to kill Tony.
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>>149250306
The vipers is more realistic then that
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>>149250020
Wow you're so smart not to idolize anti-heroes, I tip my fedora to you good sir
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>>149246286
This comment reeks of trannyism
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>>149243658
watch s6 again
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>>149243694
This is such a retard opinion
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>>149250306
there was no point for furio to kill tony, unless carmela would fly a plane to italy to get railed by him.
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>>149244430
I banged a girl that looks identical in every way to the girl on the left, was alright.
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>>149243908
I don't have a problem with Jews and traitors in Hollywood except when they can't shut the fuck up about the nazis, white supremacists, the inquisition, american slavery and how evil white people were, in almost every fucking show they touch
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>>149249909
wait but why are you so sure hes alive your argument is that its open ended so it was most likely made to be interrupted both ways
brainlet you are arguing against yourself
it could of been either theres evidence for both dead and alive after the end
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>>149243908
Steve schrippas mother was adopted into and Italian family and never even new her jewish parents. Its not even relevant. On an ep of talking sopranos he says that they stil dont know but his grandparents claimed his mother was a bastard child of a polish girl and member of murder inc.
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>>149243407

brains blown out in front of his kids and wife, literally under 1m each. holy shit.
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>>149243908

the road to success is paved with judaism and rhinoplasty
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>>149255371
So it would seem. So it would seem.
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>>149250130
Lol every character ends up dead or with nothing in prison. And they also damn their families along with them. One of the main themes of the show is how Tony choosing this life has made him miserable and makes it so that he ruins everyone and everything close to him
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wasn't the point of the end of the show that it didn't matter whether he got killed or not, just like the point of american psycho is that it doesn't matter whether he killed all the people or not?

it didn't matter if he got shot now, tomorrow, fifteen years down, he's always going to be living the same life constantly looking over his shoulder, but also still going to insist on living the same lifestyle even though everyone has seen what it leads to. it's like living hell
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>all these tony is alive posters
>not a single explanation for why the music suddenly stopped
Peak retard
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>>149244197
feels like he killed him over the pregnant stripper he killed rather than the horse
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>>149244022
A. WHOEVER DID THIS
B. UNIVERSITY
C. PROSHAI, LIVUSHKA
D. HE IS RISEN
E. TO SAVE US ALL FROM SATANS POWER
THEY DIDNT HAVE FLATTOPS IN ANCIENT ROME
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>>149249948
Sociopaths watch TV too
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>>149243694
>david chase's own statements are fan fiction
What does cock and semen taste like?
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>>149243908
So was the woman who played SA Ciccerone and the dude who played Finn DeTrolio.
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>>149243827
What if it ended with Tony visiting Jamal Ginsburg's grave?
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>>149243407
maybe they'll reveal it in the new movie
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>>149243658
Nah, when Tony was in the coma Paulie was super pissed off to pay his cut of the heist money to Carmela. He didn't really want him to make it out of there. Silvio was the most loyal
More than likely Paulie was contacted by Butchie to help drum up support for new management. Patsy would have gone along as well, even after getting shot at
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>>149254067
No, you didn't.
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>>149243717
Absolutely not.
Even if they did,Since James gandolfini has died how'd we know if he was originally intended to be dead
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>>149243407
It was Furio all along
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>>149243908
> doesn't include the Richie aprile guy
Get good nose-smeller
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>>149249572
This
People will act purposely obtuse about the ending, pretending that subtext and context do not exist
Like obviously Tony was killed or at least fast approaching a jail cell with Carlo set to testify. But realistically having the last 2 seconds of the entire show being Tony's blood spraying on his family's faces would have been too mean spirited. So it cut just before then, and if you were even close to paying attention you would have got the message but people have turned it into some giant mystery when it really isn't
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>>149257521

They're all trolling.
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>>149258343
Literally fan fiction
Also after these events meadow and a resurrected Adriana had a threesome with me
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>>149257521
Because the show ended
Dense retarded faggot
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>>149243407
It was davey scatino.
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>>149243531
>Very observant. The sacred and the propane.
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>>149258195
Yeah I literally did. Why does everyone here complain about this place being filled with normies, then when someone says they had sex its just impossible to believe? Which one is it?
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>>149258552
This is that "purposely obtuse" thing I was talking about
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>>149258195
why would that be hard to believe? she was pretty average looking. people have sex you know.
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>>149243407
Bryan Spatafore killed him, as a revenge for his dead brother.
Vito was a gay man, and Tony wasn't. There was nothing he could do about it.
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>>149243407
How would anyone know Tony was going to be at that restaurant?
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>>149259665
AJ would be moved up from D Girl to Vice President if he ratted on his father
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>>149244430
Post the webm for left girl NOW
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The change of color palette from golden brown in early seasons, to blue on black in the late ones, was very cinematic.
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>>149244022
superb taste Carmella anon
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Fucking fine, I made it myself
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>>149261454
*BOOM BOOM*
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>>149261454
Alright, if I have to...
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>>149249572
>Of course he was going to die in the end. It literally could not be more obvious for like a dozen different reasons,
You mean things that you literally made up to cope with not getting a neat ending? hahaha. Did you see him get shot? No? Then Tony getting shot is not canon. Stop pretending your fanfic is real.
>only a capeshitter who needs everything handed to him on a silver platter would disagree.
that's literally you though. you can't accept that they didn't give you a neat ending where the "awful" Tony was "justly" murdered for your own satisfaction. So you make up alternate endings where it happens.
>>149258343
>People will act purposely obtuse about the ending, pretending that subtext and context do not exist
reddit tier argument. "CONTEXT MATTERS!!!!"
No amount of context will change the fact that Tony not shown to have been shot.
>obviously Tony was killed
the delusion is real
>Tony's blood spraying on his family's faces would have been too mean spirited. So it cut just before the
wow, you're even reading their minds, like what they considered doing and what they opted to do instead. I'm sure they were worried about being "mean spirited" and totally would have shown Tony getting killed, but then changed their mind. lmao
> if you were even close to paying attention you would have got the message
the message you made up? in your own mind? lol. no thanks, I'll just take what's actually in the show seriously and disregard fanfics.
>>149258654
>if anyone disagrees with me, they're PURPOSELY OBTUSE
this is why you'll never become normal unless you seek help. people are telling you that your made up ending isn't the real ending, and all you can say is that they must be deliberately trying to mislead you.
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>>149243908
pretty funny that you omitted david chase
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the mafia typically doesn't whack made guys, much less bosses, in front of their family. one of the reasons the last scene makes so little sense
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>>149243915
In a deleted scene Noah rides off on a stolen bicycle to his job in high finance after killing Tony.
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>>149243407
Let's compare The Sopranos ending with the Shrek's ending. The Sopranos ends with the mundane scenery: Tony and his family eating onion rings. Then, the camera shuts off, leaving the blank space for audience to fill, so the show's universe continues to live offscreen in your imagination. While, the Shrek's ending, seems like an last day before the Apocalypse is gonna destroy the Earth, each one of these fairytale creatures is going to die right after the credits roll. So Eddie Murphy sings "I'm A Believer", and everyone is dancing and partying. Therefore, the universe of this film is as good as dead, all plot arcs concluded, and there's no point for animated film Shrek to exist offscreen. it's just wipes itself out your memory. That's why open finale - is the pinnacle of the finales, IMO.
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>>149262702
It was in front of his family because Phil got whacked in front of his. The mafia responds accordingly.
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>>149262793
Open finals are the definiton of reddit
>this happened after wards!
>what do you think happened after?
Nothing redditor, its a show, and it just finished. Its not real, nothing happened because it doesn't exist. Its a story, and that story finished, end of conversation.
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>>149262893
Madone, at least collect 1000 more dollars from Reddit, for staying in your head for that long.
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i like to think paulie and patsy did it, with the go ahead from phil's new york guys, just because of the restroom scene they shared and paulies last scene with tony
also butch specifically told phil not to kill paulie and to hit bobby and silvio instead (tony's only two faithful higher guys)
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>>149243658
>Paulie wanted to switch families in Season 4
>Fucked up Russian collection and looks completely incompetent to Tony from then on
Come on now
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>>149243658
Paulie was definitlely not the most loyal guy to Tony, not by a fucking long shot, Paulie is a snake

>>149243608
in Blue Comet, the 2nd to last episode, Silvio mentions to Tony that New York had reached out to some Jersey guys about new leadership and then Burt Gervasi, Carlos' cousin, came forward to Silvio to see if he would go along with getting rid of Ton in exchange of being the boss. Silvio strangles Bert at the beginning of that episode. All season long, Bert is seen with his cousin Carlo and Patsy. It is safe to reason that New York approached Carlo, Patsy, maybe Paulie.

So id say Patsy went along with the plan to whack Tony in order to be the new boss. He was the only one who could have told New York where to find Tony that night, as Meadow is dating Patsy's oldest son, she probably told Patrick, who maybe mentioned it to his dad. Or the hitman just tailed AJ from Lupertazzi Productions.
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>>149263956
Excellent post
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>>149262593
Cope. He's dead.
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>>149249986
>its open ended
If it is open ended, when Tony is alive the other 100% of the series, the answer is no.
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>>149265335
Retard opinion
>final scene is clearly meant to be from Tony's POV
>right when he sees Meadow the scene cuts to black
He was whacked. 3 o'clock.
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>>149266131
I'll never understand how anyone can argue otherwise
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>>149262593
Tony died posters
>as you can see in the final scene, Tony has been whacked
Tony survived posters
>that garbage tier wall of text you posted that no ones going to read
Case closed
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>3 o clock Chrissy told Tony
>Hitman came at him from the 3 o clock position
>mobsters are seen where all the same jackets
>Silvio feels the blood on his face before hearing the gunshot
>Bobby mentions not hearing anything when you get shot
>Tony is seen letting his guard down at the sit down, a guy got behind him and spooked him
>Tony didn’t hear the bell at the dock
>Tony didn’t hear the orderly talk to him
>Meadows parking was shitty so she couldn’t sit next to him and block the shot
>the Hitman came in as AJ did, distracting Tony
>Paulie is seen with hair care products from Butchie’s place
>New York had a perfect opening to absorb NJ
>the mural in Holstens had an old cottage house most often used in Tony’s dreams for hell or death
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>>149264540
>make up endings in your head
>calling others copers
lol
>>149266506
>as you can see in the final scene, Tony has been whacked
you mean him sitting at the table, alive? you are truly unhinged
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>>149267121
No I mean the part where he dies you literal retard
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>>149247148
He was basically pleading with Tony to not make him do something.
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>>149266131
The cut to black isn't death, it is the show ending before we see his final POV
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YOU, the viewer, gets whacked at the end. It’s entirely possible Tony is about to be shot but you get whacked first.
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>>149267494
His final POV was nothing. 3 o'clock, he's dead.
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>>149263956
Didn't Carlo also go awol in that last episode as well? I think Tony assumed it was witness protection but there could be some fuckery going on there too.
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>>149267942
I believe they confirmed he flipped
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>>149267593
maybe it's just because i'm really fkin high rn but holy shit that's amazing
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>>149267942
He said Carlo was going to testify.
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>>149246258
>the race riots are the focal point
Really? I guess it's no mob kino...
The Deadwood movie was bad, I hoped that this Soprano prequel that no one asked for would be at least watchable...



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