Thread for the discussion of arthouse and classic cinema./film/ Chartshttps://mega.nz/folder/FqAnBYpZ#eZiSPfuer0hlOAbmVEmdTw/film/ Literaturehttps://mega.nz/folder/KvgWTKjQ#rGWJZs0ihnviBKDM9yxwJw/film/ Filmshttps://mega.nz/folder/b5ggSb5T#zWQ0MqVzcYmexyzPlDBFSw/film/ director directoryhttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qgdYsMPAaFWrAa_7EHLpXqpOHLaDLmytM9wJ5nhGtqs/edit?usp=sharingPrevious: >>149225804
My breath smells bad.
Just watched Bicycle Thieves (1948)Good God I was not expecting that. Now I'm all fucking depress.
What do you think Godard thinks of this?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY1eFxgRR-k [Embed]
this fucking retard was wrong about absolutely everything
name 1 (one) entertaining arthouse movieI'll wait
bros because im a neet with no social life tomorrow im going to spend all day blindfolded just to live like a blind person for a day. How do i keep posting here even then?
Jean Luc's best films were with Gorin. Tout Va Bien is his best film. Once you cross the redpill his 60s work he got famous for seem childish and one note. >>149238191wrong, he was completely correct.
>>149238216Funny games
>>149238170to be honest that video is very kino. I imagine part of why he is a bitter old man is he is disturbed that the style he invented became so corporate, especially now that conservativism is the counter culture.
There was a guy who shit posted these threads but changed the title so it was abbreviated to /Fag/ general. Was a very based poster.
>>149238227t.sandra bullock
>>149238238>wrong, he was completely correctnot at all:>he claimed art films and art for art's sake were dead in cinema, and never explained why>he claimed realism was what cinema aimed to achieve, and its most important feature. That was proven wrong with 60s and 70s film>his theory on westerns and metawesterns was proven to be bullshit with the arrival of spaghetti westerns>he endorsed the use of long takes instead of incrementing montagens, which (with a few exceptions) quickly became a tired gimmick, used by hack directors to show off
>>149238170hahaha fuck godardhope he dies like the rest of us
>>149238373>he endorsed the use of long takes instead of incrementing montagens, which (with a few exceptions) quickly became a tired gimmick, used by hack directors to show offNot the anon you are replying to but montages became the tools of the hack nowadays
>>149238216Lost Highway
>>149238293It was /fag and retard/ I also made this chart
How is the Rightwing filmmakers list coming along?Also, it would be good to compile a list of films that have inherent Rightwing messages or undertones, regardless of said filmmaker's political persuasion.
>>149238589Kusturica is a fascist but in a fun way
>>149237914>>149238129>>149238170>>149238293>>149238373>>149238479>>149238493>>149238589>>149238950Just a reminder that taking film this seriously is faggot shit. It's a feminine hobby to sit down, in a passive state, and consume a product for entertainment. I'm a mechanic and actually play a role in peoples lives. Most of u fags should learn a trade or skill and embrace your masculinity instead of doing hobbies made for children and women. Grow up
>>149239121This is bait but I'd bet the majority of people here have STEM degrees or are working towards one, given the demographics of this site.
>>149239184true, I'm a mechanical engineer, but I hate my job, have no career prospects, and honestly think I'd have been better off if I had studied something on arts or humanitiesalso, I'm balding
Which one should I watch today /film/, help me chooseThe Maltese Falcon or Hitchcock’s Rope
>>149239396Rope is kino. Its also really, really gay for some reason. nobody believes how gay it is till they see it for themselves.
>>149238523Was it you?
>>149239184I'm 32 and never had a job before lolI will start driving soon though
>>149239959How>>149239184Physics major, have had shitty jobs for 3 years now since graduation, probably will try and get my masters in computer science or accounting.
>>14923995918fag here, list every step you took to end up at that point. I need to know what not to do in my 20s
>>149240230You're worse off than him
why was Golden Age Hollywood so obsessed with bondage?
>>149239373Go work at a factory. After doing desk jobs as an engineer for years and hating it.. I took a job at a factory and I unironically think it's a lot of fun. I bullshit with mechanics and electricians all day, and we all work towards making a physical thing. Better than programming banking software or a Doordash app or some shit. Anyway, whatever. It's my cope and I'm OK with that
Watch more Mike Leigh films ..
>>149241564watch far less Mike Leigh films
What are some fun movies
>>149241630Watch a medium amount of Mike leigh films. So long as you watch Naked with David Thewlis, you'll get a lot of what Leigh is getting at (at least within his older "Thatcher era" films)
>>149238589Once I find some time I'm going to do a deep dive into google and look for names. This thread is hostile and not very helpful but I'll post it when I'm finished
>>149241677why is it hostile
>>149241637Tokyo DrifterThe Gang's All HereBrewster McCloud A Wedding
>>149241729Angry communists
>>149241772This is a fascist board, friend.
>>149241792Baste
Reminder that you must be socially adept to make a truly great film. You must fit in with the current culture of society instead of being a loser incel.
>>149238170Godard invented this shitty hipster aesthetic so it's obvious this: >>149238289
I was home for six days and I had zero minutes of spare time to watch a film on my huge ass 4K TV :( Films for this feel which I can watch on a regular relatively small monitor?
>>149243295I bet you're incel
>>149242675Wrong
>>149244249I don't understand how anybody could disagree with me on this.
>>149244382Ozu was incel living in his mother's basement
>>149244571That doesn't necessarily define what incel is
>>149231416Watch the director's cut. The whole film is explained by the end.
>>149244382I'd argue the opposite. The weirder you are the greater and more unique your art becomes usually. I really hope I'm not just coping and projecting.
>>149244642Ozu was incel or a fag either way
>>149244706Fellini was socially adept and weird at the same time whilst never trying hard to be, the same goes for Cassavetes and any other 'visionary' director. They both generally had a more liberal attitude as well. Art in general is not made for anybody obsessed with traditional ideas.
>>149244872Hah are there any directors that try too hard to be weird?
>>149238238His worst work is pathetic revolutionary larping with Gorin. It's not only pathetic but blatantly hypocritical and stupid.
>>149245024Unironically a small few of the politically radical Japanese New Wave filmmakers, and I'm not projecting. Even structural film and stan brakhage films have a more genuine approach than this. It's not that they tried hard to be weird, instead they tried to fit in with the rest of the world at the time as political radicals, but for no reason at all.
>>149241729Because he doesn't know what right wing and conservative means and he is shitting up the thread with politics, which nobody cares about
https://youtu.be/4XNyNAjF1m0
>>149245232>jnw copied fnw & cnwno shit.
>>149245284>slo moKubrick doesn't believe in cinema. t. Jean Luc
>>149245130 happens when a filmmaker lacks a thing to say
Europeans are cucks
>>149245315>jnw copied fnwThey were concurrent, and the influence went both ways; I think I read somewhere that Truffaut and possibly Varda saw Crazed Fruit and were influenced by it, I have to look for the source again. Oshima's Night and Fog in Japan is more formally advanced than anything any of the French directors except Resnais put out by that time in 1963.
>>149245869Is Night and Fog a marxist film?
What's a film that changed your whole perception of life?
>>149245908
>>149245999La Strada
>>149245938I don't have the best understanding of Oshima's political beliefs; the movie is about the internal conflicts of the radical left in Japan and is harshly critical of the older generation of Stalinists and show trials. It's definitely worth watching even if you're not into the political philosophies depicted.
>>149245624>t. has to bend a knee every time he sees a black person
>>149246102t. blackI'm still winning
>>149246260>has to kneel every 5 seconds>I-i-i'm winning he says as he spills his large McDonald's drink after kneeling yet again>gets shot
>>149246081Oshima is such a hack. He is like an edgy teen.
>>149246344so he's bitter and angry?
>>149246377Empty, edgy provocateur. Gaspar Noe of Japan.
>>149245624Americans are sheltered
>>149238238Why? Those are his worst films. They are even insulting with their pretensions and then the actual content/execution. In Praise of Love, Our Music, Hail Mary, Goodbye Language etc. are all superior.
>>149246718Godard when you look at his entire career is rather disappointing
>>149246344>>149246377He was certainly a provocateur, but I don't see how you can call films like The Ceremony and A Treatise on Japanese Bawdy Song empty. He was a based genius provocateur like Lars Von Trier.
>>149237914>/film/ Chartswhat is your favourite and most well composed chart?mine is pic related
>>149237914How the fuck is Godard not dead yet?
This is unironically a good film. The making of the film itself and the content inside the film both do a good job at explaining the Amerimutt-phenomenon.
>>149247031>Amerimutt-phenomenonexplain
>>149247162obsessed yuropoor's schizophrenic rambling
>>149246970On devrait aller en France et le tuer
>>149246890
>>149247162it's self explanatory if you saw the film. Americans act as they do in the film. In danger, americans scream and panic instead of doing anything, refer to gas station explosion scene. Americans have a tendency to latch onto a big group of people because they have no sense of independence. The plot is essentially supernatural film about apocalypse which is typical of Americans to make. The ending is the most American thing you will see and in general this film is the most american film there is.>>149247325cope, burger
>>149247504obsessed
>>149247549You're denying that Americans are like this?
>>149247436Is this a /lit/fag?
Just wanted to tell you all that most of you have absolutely shit taste in movies and are extremely pretentious.The amount of garbage movies presented in these threads is staggering. I hope most of you are just extremely young and will grow out of this phase.
>>149247749Criterion collection is like 99% shit but it is wprth it to dig through them for stuff like the Cremator and Stalker.
>>149247749>Godard>pretentiousfag
>>149246834Not really, even though I often don't connect with his films, he made loads of interesting work in distinct styles throughout his career. He is doing what he wants to do and it's at least interesting. The only disappointing phase is Dziga Vertov one.>>149246970Oliveira was making films and shorts when he was 100+ yo>>149247031Most of Hitchcock is solid. The final shot in Birds is very painterly. >>149247504Did Hitchcock predict the tranny menace and American obsession with identity politics in Psycho? American man dressing as a woman killing a real woman.
>>149247625Yes, but not even people on /lit/ like him.
>>149247903more likely a her
>>149247936No, it's a schizo guy from Mexico.
>>149247586I'm telling you that you're obsessed
>>149247936Whatever it is, it's not well liked even on /lit/.
>>149247879Pyscho had a whole scene explaining that the killer was not a tranny, you're a brainlet
>>149247936He idolizes Rome and doesn't use lower case letters because the Romans didn't have them.
>>149247749ironic post
>>149248044False. He was wearing her clothes.
>>149248136https://youtu.be/OcSGdXDli5Ayou're a brainlet
>>149245284https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RNUYmJeGFM
>>149248310>believing a joke explanation by a hack psychiatristYou are a brainlet. It's clearly about him trying to be trans but fighting his mother disapproval even after her death. He wants to transition and gets triggered when he sees a real woman so he kills her. Perkins was allegedly a fag, here Hitchcock points it out even more. Bates is a tranny
>>149247749>The amount of garbage movies presented in these threads is staggeringwhich movies
>>1492484428/10 bait made me smile
Any other films based in Wales? Pretty comfy culture I must say.
>not believing in the Amerimutt Phenomenon
>>149245869>>149246081>>149246344What are Oshima's best films?
>>149238170
>>149249428The fuck is Straub even saying
>>149249151In the Realm of the SensesDeath by HangingThe CeremonyDouble SuicideEmpire of Passion
>>149238589>Also, it would be good to compile a list of films that have inherent Rightwing messages or undertones, regardless of said filmmaker's political persuasion.No one has yet to define what the fuck is even meant by right wing messages or undertones. I keep circling back to that one retard asking for "more conservative directors like Kiarostami".
>>149249679Okay, but are any of those actually good?
>>149250165All of them, you retard.
Films about unlikeable people
Tonight is the night bros
>>149250409Okay now rate them from 1-10 then i will be really sure to watch him
>>149250613No.
>>149250647They probably suck
>>149239121Jokes on you I work in the film industry and get paid doing it.Also getting a small budget (100k) to do my own short film.Have fun being a mechanic faggot
>>149239184History degree I did for the lulz
>>149246890deh
>>149250514The /film/ biopic
>>149249679Sada > In the Realm of Senses
>>149250824>small budget (100k) to do my own short film100k for a short film? What the fuck? How large is it in scale?
>>149250824A bit much for just a short. Foolish. I know a guy who's currently directing his first feature for around 100k.
>>149251197Had no idea that Obayashi made a film about the same story. Thanks.
>>149250824Where are u from?
>>149251197Obayashi is based
thoughts?
>You're not a narcissist.>You are looking for an excuse for being unlikeable and weak. Everyone does what you describe to some extent, weaker people more than others.>Cure yourself by developing some self control, self confidence, and self respect.>People can see right through you, and tolerate you only because they pity you. Become someone people want to know./film/s that read you like a book?
>>149251831The more time passes, the less I like it. Nowadays I think it's one of Tarkovsky's weakest.
>>149251772Oshima is better tho
I watched both parts of A Bread Factory, I thought the first part was better than the second but both really good. Do you guys have an opinion on it? Any recommendations of movies like it?
>>149251211>>149251372>>149251655around 20min long.7k a minute is the standard budget here in switzerland. I was fine with 20k but sometimes one needs to shut up and accept the absurd.
>>149251831Exact opposite of this guy >>149251939, the more time passes the more I like it. I saw in theaters projected on film and it's honestly one of the most beautiful films I've ever seen. All the screenshots I've seen don't do any justice to the actual look of the film for some reason.
>>149252082Damn, that's pretty crazy. Are you shooting digital or film? How big is your crew?
>>149252101sure sure but what about the girl anon? she's beautiful.
>>149238289Godard's '60s style was never completely detached from popular culture.
>>149252139Digital because it fits the story better. Pretty small crew, the actual shooting will only be done in summer 2022 so we don't have the full crew yet but it will be around 10-15 people I believe.Honestly Switzerland is a pretty retarded country, I myself find the budget to be absurd and way to high but heh why would I complain. We have a very small film scene here but tons of money. It's mostly from orgs etc and not from private investor like I believe the case to be in the US.
>>149252270>Digital because it fits the story better.wat
>>149252082Swiss have a film industry? The only filmmaker from there, that I know is Tanner.
>>149251963not as fun
>>149252360let's say it's a creative choice on my part.Check out coproductions with switzerland if you are in the business yourself, it's pretty interesting
>>149252270Would shoot on film if I already had such a ridiculously high budget.
>>149252395It's tiny and basically after working on 3-4 films you have met the whole industry. I have worked on a movie called Platzspitzbaby recently ( won't say who I am) check it out.
>>149252441I don't know man, shooting on film for the sake of shooting on film kinda doesn't interest me.
>>149252527Would shoot on film for the sake of it looking better.
>>149251831Every time I watch it's a different film yet equally beautiful. On the other hand it feels impenetrable.>>149251971Haven't seen that one but his film In the Family was good.
>>149252270Do you work in studio, have to build sets?Have you ever met JLG?
>>149252458>I worked on a Swiss BBC film>look how cool I amhow does it feel to actively be making propaganda to replace your own race?
>>149252458Kek, it's funny to me that Swiss have less of an international film presence than fucking Hungary.
>>149252270Nice, good luck with the project. Did you apply for the grant by yourself or through a production company? The film grant organization in my country gives most of the money to lowest common denominator comedies and only gives you anything beyond chump change if you apply through a production company.
>>149252600Thanks, I'll try to find a download link for it
>>149252458Have you worked on anything else or was Platzspitzbaby your first job in the industry? Also, how did you get into the industry? I have no idea how to do it over here
>>149252458>PlatzspitzbabyWell, after looking at the trailer, I hope you didn't shoot it. All of these cheap European films look exactly the same these days. It's nothing but the same boring shaky bullshit and closeups with a puke-worthy color grade. Hope your short ends up looking better.
>>149252670What country? Sounds almost exactly like the situation here in Finland.
>>149252606No but it's pretty easy to get jean luc bideau and bruno ganz was also very present (rip).>>149252622kek it's based on a true story where the protags happened to be black.>>149252650it's shameful >>149252670you have to apply through a production company. a lot of people create one with like 3 members just to be able to apply.>>149252799>>149252857First big (budget of 4-5 million francs) one I've worked on, before that it was tv and documentaries.It sucks to say it but I did a year of film school and some shorts and had contacts in the industry. E-mails and CV don't work, it's all about who you know. Of course once you're in you have to deliver or they'll never call you back.>>149252857hahaha nah I didn't shoot it. The DOP is a very nice dude tho so please be polite.The day I'll do a feature length worthy of it I'll name a protag sneed or some shit like that. You'll know
>>149252857also to add, I'm going for a son of saul type of style so you'll probably hate it too (not the shoah part but the visual part.
>>149253459>kek it's based on a true story where the protags happened to be black.>black>druggiesstory checks out for now
>>149253459this you?
>>149253459>it's shamefulNot really, it shows that money can't buy creativity and that with a small amout of money you can make fantastic films. On the other hand Swiss produced the best film of 2000s (it probably cost the same as your short).
>>149254095I giggled>>149254275no >>149254369It's shameful that we didn't manage to make something out of all that cash.Sorry that me getting money bothers you, it's not really my fault I would've been happy with a fraction of that summ but I would be retarded to refuse.
>>149249189In Collateral, Vincent isn't Max's friend, he's manipulating him throughout. Establishing a mentor role whilst "wanting the best for him". It's all to disarm Max and make him trust Vincent, his objective is to perform the hits as smoothly as possible with no witnesses, this means if Max believes that he cares for him and his future, he will spare him. I mean, throughout the film, there has been a dead body in Max's trunk, how would it have ever worked out for him? There's blood and every bit of forensic evidence in the cab that is in his name that he would be sitting life in prison. I don't know for certain, but it feels that throughout, Vincent could be projecting. Unlike Max, Vincent can't really escape the profession he's in. From the way he talks and wistfully let's his gaze wander around during the cab drives, lend a little credence that he is getting tired of it all. He lambasts Max for being stuck in a loop, not getting his own limo company, not talking to women that show interest in him, it isn't the difference in confidence we should be paying attention here. We should be watching how Vincent parallels Max. It is in its heart, a film about exploration, Vincent and Max both grow to know about each other and themselves, and do harbor a seed of respect for the other at the end.
>>149252883Se just :D
Gotta go fast. Keep an eye out for swiss films in the future my frens.https://youtu.be/hs8uYxTJ530
>>149254627Can you explain the wolf scene please?
>>149254612then this must be you
>>149253459>The day I'll do a feature length worthy of it I'll name a protag sneed or some shit like that. You'll knowToo obvious. You need to do something only /film/ will notice. Like a protag saying Desperately Seeking Susan is the greatest film of all time or something
>>149254823>a protag bitching about how ford is a hack
>>149254612>Sorry that me getting money bothers you, it's not really my fault I would've been happy with a fraction of that summ but I would be retarded to refuse.It doesn't bother me. I don't really care, good for you I guess.
>>149254369>On the other hand Swiss produced the best film of 2000s (it probably cost the same as your short).What film?
>>149254866Most people here like Ford though
>>149254689Voi viddu :DSuomileffat on kieltämättä paskassa jamassa.
>>149254949Colossal Youth
>>149255003Jep. Elättelen kuitenkin vähän toivoa että koronan takia "blockbusterit" kuolee ja valtavirran elokuvista tulee pienempiä skaalaltaan ja jokseenkin "auteuristisempia" ja tästä otettaisiin sitten mallia Suomessakin. Toisaalta kun SES antaa miljoona euroa Sami Hedbergille vuosittain ja ne on epäironisesti vuoden katsotuimmat elokuvat niin en kyllä tiedä mihin tästä voidaan oikein mennä.
>>149255003>>149255393How come Denmark and Sweden are so good and Norway and Finland are so worthless?
>>149255393Toivottavasti olet oikeassa, mutta pienemmätkin Suomalaiset tuotannot on olleet aika kuraa viime aikoina. Enkä voi sanoa, että lähivuosien festarilyhäritkään olisi herättänyt mitään toivoa tulevien tekijöiden suhteen. Aika geneeristä ja mitäänsanomatonta draamaa suoltaa ulos nämä niin sanotusti "vakavammatkin" tekijät.
>>149255628>SwedenBergman's been dead for quite some time now.
>>149254785Knowing the background of the scene, I'm a little hesitant to claim that it has definitive meaning. That doesn't mean it doesn't fit almost perfectly into the film's theme. The coyotes in the city are more nocturnal than their rural counterparts since the hustle and bustle in a city dies down during the night. Vincent mirrors this, he performs his hits during the night, just like a coyote hunts in the night. Coyotes adapt quite quickly into urban environments, lack of predators and abundant food resources (rodents, birds, trash), make urban coyotes live longer than their rural counterparts as well. It is a very interesting tightrope walk between being familiar with your surroundings but still in an alien landscape. Vincent is the coyote. A lone predator in an alien landscape, who most likely will die without anybody paying mind, much like a coyote that has become roadkill. >>149255393Parhaat leffat Suomessa sieltä 70-80 luvulta, Pölönen iha ok 90-luvulla. Simpauttaja, Kätkäläinen, Siunattu Hulluus, mainioita elokuvia. Kaurismäki kans hyvä, mut hieman överi sielunmasema kuvaus, parodiaa melkein. Itellä vaikee samaistua Suomalaisiin nyky-elokuviin, tuntuu ku ois yhtä teatteria kaikki, toisin kun vanhemmat.
A lot of suomi in this bread I see:DDD
>>149255708Roy Andersson is one of the best directors alive. Sjostrom, Troell etc.
>>149255818>Roy Andersson is one of the best directors alive.Hard disagree.
Hoping to honor Moses,I admired her like Dolores.The drunken lady drenchedwith blood and excretionI loved that wenchWe drove on the roadUlaanbaatarShe decided not to goAs if Chesterton could knowI stopped on the wayAnd Virgil said nay
You fags never told me that Fanny and Alexander was kino
>>149255878Filtered
>>149256014thats cause you just came in from reddit 2 days ago
>>149256014>t. newfag
>>149255678>Enkä voi sanoa, että lähivuosien festarilyhäritkään olisi herättänyt mitään toivoa tulevien tekijöiden suhteen. Aika geneeristä ja mitäänsanomatonta draamaa suoltaa ulos nämä niin sanotusti "vakavammatkin" tekijät.Tästä oon kyllä täysin samaa mieltä. Tuntuu että monille nuorille ohjaajille elokuvat ovat enimmäkseen vain kuvattua teatteria eikä kenelläkään ole minkäänlaista syvempää ymmärrystä elokuvista taiteena. Todella yksinkertaistettuna tuntuu vähän siltä että yksi osa katsojista on juntteja jotka haluavat nähdä läskin ääntelemässä puoltoista tuntia, ja toinen osa pitää elokuvia vain politiikan välikätenä. Aika paska tilanne ":D"
>>149255794I fucking hate Finns
>>149256112I can sense your inner faggotry
>>149255628The Finns are an utilitarian people and can't into art t. finnish man
You guys never told me dick in my ass shouldn't be this much fun
>>149255878Why
/film/ usually this hostile?t. /lit/man
>>149256245This is /film/ relaxed.
>>149256245depends on the day and how much of a pleb you are
>>149256245Who's hostile here?
>>149256376dumontfag
>>149256297>>149256302>>149256376and today is apparently a good day. Fuckin TEENS grow up unless you hide this side of you in real life, then that's based
>>149256446What's based about hiding your opinion because you fear that people will think you are an asshole?
>>149256245Yes
>>149256548People like you should be dismissed as a joke.
>>149256596Nice non answer.
>>149256446Stop writing stupid posts then, you crying newfag moron.
>>149256721grow up fag
>>149256786Stop crying toddler
>>149256446some of the most revered filmmakers are/were eternal teens.
>>149241637The apartment
>>149238216The Cremator
>>149241637Crank
>>149239121>it's another episode of an ugly person telling people how they should behave
>>149257656this, i fucking hate ugly people so much.
>>149257473Jack Lemmon’s always a fun choice - just saw him in How to Murder Your Wife, surprisingly fun 60’s comedy
>>149249428Ford is the Paul Scholes of cinema.
That someone as Michel Carné directed such fucking piece of shit film is an insult to his whole film career. Jesus fucking trash what a fucking shit, I hope all people related to May of 68 dies horribly for the shit they came up to Europe.
>>149238289Godard is not a bitter old man, he has been an asshole all his life.
>>149258287*Marcel Carné, sorry, still mad.
>>149258287holy filtered
whats up with those dorks who go to film school and talk about like they know film but only watch the most plebian entry level shit and capeshit. Is it autism? i knew a guy like this and always wore a fedora and a weed necklace
>>149249616it's really obvious if you watch most Ford movies.
kino
>>149249616>>149258493Read the analysis of Young Mr. Lincoln in Cahiers du Cinema.
>>149258493explain it to me, how is he brechtian
>>149258544we did, it's fine, judge priest is better
>>149258432Most people who go to film school have basic taste
>>149258574i dont want to spell it out for you, just watch fort apache again
>>149258432Film is the only art medium where a significant amount of the people consuming it consider there to be "objectively" good art. And what's touted as objectively good is shit like the IMDB top-250. So these people will watch Citizen Kane and The Godfather etc. and since those films are the pinnacle of cinema to them, they won't delve further into films and instead consume whatever trash Hollywood pumps out yearly.
>>149258432It's because the film school professors don't know anything about film and just teach the canon
>>149258633spell it out
>>149258661http://torontofilmreview.blogspot.com/2013/05/john-ford-multiple-perspectives-costa.html
>>149258287>Jacques BrelBased
>>149258697thanks
>>149258831enjoy ford
>>149238191Bazin is the greatest film theorist. Seethe.
Marcel Pagnol was the first filmmaker allowed into the French AcademyBut are any of hhis films worth watching today?
>>149260132Lol
>>149260132>>>/a/non.cafe
>>149244872>Art in general is not made for anybody obsessed with traditional ideasJohn Ford.
>>149260412What about him?
>>149245999A Man EscapedUncle BoonmeeThree Colours: RedMulholland Drive (when I was 16)I think all these films made me more spiritual. And each film changed the way I though about cinema.
>>149251831It's good, but Nostalgia resonated with me more. The scene where Tarkovsky's stand-in is alone, speaking Russian to himself is one of my favorite moments in his filmography. I really like movies with that sort of bilingual aspect.
You should be able to understand any film without the need of subtitles.
>that moment when you know that you are about to see some real KINO
>>149251831Tark's greatest.
>>149245999Pictures of the Old World>>149261116That's Rublev though.
>>149260903t. Tsai Ming-Liang
What truly separates naturalism from realism in cinema and what are some major examples of naturalistic cinema other than Dardenne brothers works?
>>149260903I too prefer dubs.
>>149261166>Pictures of the Old WorldWhy?
I'm close to completion, best Bergman film so far
>>149261234Seeing the film made me think differently about the old folks living in the rural villages. There are moments of existentialist thoughts, which some resonate with my own personal life, and life about others.
>>149261295I won't pause it again, just wanted to show you the cinematography of this film.
>>149261433Very based choice. Hanak is underrated.
today is the 2nd birthday of the criterion streaming service
>>149261295>>149261537those are some great cinematographies
>>149261214>what are some major examples of naturalistic cinema other than Dardenne brothers works?Rohmer. I deliberately don't know any more of them since naturalism is retarded
>>149261893>he doesn't know De Sicawhat a retard
>>149261295>>149261537I watched Scenes from a Marriage yesterday and might see Saraband these days. Today I'm in the mood for something else, but don't know what yet.
>>149261839and hopefully the last
>>149261839>only in USA and Canadafuck em
>>149261839My KG account is like 15 years old.
>>149262245>angry at a movie streaming servicewhat causes this?
>>149261839>streaming
>>149262272Eunuchs need the education
>>149262422I don't understand this image
>>149262336same as the /mu/ hate for spotify. Just autism and feeling special because normalfags stream.>>149262272VPN dumbass, after signing up you dont need it anymore
>>149263034>paying for streaming service>getting VPN>doing all this when you can torrent in higher quality
>>149263034>VPN dumbassI am NOT a criminal.
>>149263341nice bait
>>149263654No, seriously, I'm completely technically illiterate. I'm tired to pirating kinos and searching for subtitles and dealing with the HDMI cable. I have hundreds of movies on an extrenal hard-drive and I use that to watch movies on my tv, but I'd prefer to have this comfy Criterion channel and just stream things. I'll look into it and if it's just that (VPN for a month) I have to do it.
>>149263771If you are actually being serious, why would having a VPN mean you're a criminal?
>>149261996Aren't his works more realism than naturalism?
>>149263771Criterion is retarded and doesn't allow you to connect external monitors (at least on windows, apparently this doesn't concern Mac in some cases).
>>149244872Worst post ever made. All good art is obsessed with tradition. Stop watching criterion.
>>149264003Because I was joking, anon. Come on, anon, relax.
1. Four Nights of a Dreamer2. L'argent3. The Devil Probably4. Lancelot of the Lake5. A Gentle Creature6. Trial of Joan of Arc7. Mouchette8. Au Hasard Baltzahar9. Diary of a Country Priest10. Pickpocket11. A Man EscapedWhen should I watch his first two?
>>149264087>Criterion is retarded and doesn't allow you to connect external monitors (at least on windowsIt works for me when I use duplicate these screens function.
>>149264261Read the bible instead, or watch a biblical epic.
>>149264329
>>149264496Watch DeMille’s, it’s more radical than Bresson, great movie.
>>149264606No watch Roeg's it's more radical than de Milles
>>149264783No, he’s not an auteur, DeMille is
>>149264261>1. Four Nights of a Dreamer
>>149264912de Mille is a Michael Curtiz type filmmaker, catering to the audience>>149265053yes
>>149265142He’s not, DeMille is well above Curtiz. No comparison.
>>149265265>Hollywood adaption of the bible made by a self-hating Jew making films for the audience>independent filmmaker who used his aesthetic to genuinely find God later in his careerAt least Curtiz was a proud Jew
>>149265331DeMille was an antisemite. Read more and stop watching movies. DeMille was as independent as he could be and some of his best films were his commercial failures that catered to nobody.
>>149261214>What truly separates naturalism from realism in cinemaSomeone explain this please. What's the difference?
>>149265394>read more>bbbut watch this movie.>uses anti-semitieSaying mean things about the Jews in the 1940s-50s is not 'anti-semitic,' at worst it's insenstive at best it's accurate. The truth is deMille is a businessman with a Jewish mother who converted to Christianity, which is fine desu.Also, I've been re-reading the Bible daily since February and am doing the Book of Numbers today, I barely watch films nowadays to begin with.I'll watch deMille's if you watch Roegs.
>>149265564I don't talk to people who still find Bresson interesting after reading the bible. Goodbye.
>>149265685ok tranny kek
>>149239184I'm a full time teacher. Love the benefits desu. Children are retarded though.
>>149238216my winnipeg
>>149266009if I have learned anything during covid it is that teachers are retarded too
>>149266009How old are the kids and what do you teach?
>>149238216Ten kluk je postrach (1990)
>>149266343I teach physical education in a girls high school.
>>149248539the old dark house
>>149266412kys pedo
>>149266383It's Ten kluk je postrach 2 for me
>>149266999>>149266999>>149266999
>>149245256It's not shitting up the thread. You don't have to reply. A few posts about filmmakers and their art is relevant
