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Thread for the discussion of arthouse and classic cinema.

/film/ Charts
https://mega.nz/folder/FqAnBYpZ#eZiSPfuer0hlOAbmVEmdTw
/film/ Literature
https://mega.nz/folder/KvgWTKjQ#rGWJZs0ihnviBKDM9yxwJw
/film/ Films
https://mega.nz/folder/b5ggSb5T#zWQ0MqVzcYmexyzPlDBFSw
/film/ director directory
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qgdYsMPAaFWrAa_7EHLpXqpOHLaDLmytM9wJ5nhGtqs/edit?usp=sharing

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Watch Full Body Massage
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>>149225853
No.
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Oh no Allenbros, we got too cocky...
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>>149226033
why not
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Is cinéma pur a meme?
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>>149226137
dumb coomer
>>149226172
No
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>>149225853
An American La Belle Noiseuse. Pure Roeg kino.
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>>149226301
It is kino

>>149226260
Seethe about Hepburn pleb
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>>149226107
what's this?
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>>149226377
>>149226137
>>149225853
>Tom Cruise didn't want to fuck this while married and just fucked homos
sad!
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>>149226188
Any books on Weimar cinema and German Expressionism. In general, most film theorists have talked about Murnau, when discussing German Expressionist films.

Film theory:
https://www.amazon.com/Promise-Cinema-1907-1933-Cultural-Criticism/dp/0520219082/
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>>149226964
Have you checked out the mega link in the OP?
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Great OP, perfect for Eunuch (American, reddit, tranny) hours.
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>>149227068
It unironically hits too close to home for most Americans.
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>>149226107
>>149226787
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>>149227200
Why are frogs so based?
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>>149227068
Based
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Do you understand Rivette's movies?
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>>149226137
naked female body is the most stupid anti-intellectual thing you can possibly film
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>>149227381
>anti-intellectual thing
Is that you in the OP anon?
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>>149227200
hahaha, awesome. has anyone here seen it? links available?
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>>149227396
It's on Vimeo, don't expect much it's mostly just Godard making fun of Woody
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>>149227350
Yes
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>>149227484
I don't believe you.
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>>149227575
I don't care.
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>>149227654
You sound like you don't care. You also sound like you understand Rivette's movies.
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any one recommend some good shit after watching this?
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>>149226107
I don't even understand how is this suppose to make fun of him. There are 2 moments where he does slow motion and it's funny, the rest is normal. Godard looks autistic.
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Didn't care much for The Searchers or Liberty Valance, but this was fantastic. Really something else.
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>>149227200
But none of that is truth. Delusions of letterboxd trannies
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>>149228807
Try Stagecoach and My Darling Clementine next, the westerns you watched are best seen after the more fundamental Ford westerns whose mythology they are responding to.
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>>149227381
>naked female body is the most stupid anti-intellectual thing you can possibly paint
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>>149227381
Filtered.
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Watching Quintet really hurts my case for Altman being the best American director of the 70s. I don't know what the fuck he was going for; the half baked nihilism feels like such a betrayal of the optimism and joie de vie of movies like Nashville and A Wedding, but without the self introspection of Pasolini's following up the Trilogy of Life with Salo.
I still think the high points of Altman's 70s run stand alongside those of any other American director of that decade including Coppola, but that was a real fucking low. Apparently it was taken away from him in editing, but I'm not sure how good it could have been even if he had completed it as he wanted to.
At least its hard for me to imagine Popeye being worse than this.
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>>149229813
whatever, godard would think i'm cool for saying that
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Is Donnie Darko /film/ material?
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>>149227381
Frequented these threads for a good amount of time now so ive seen my fair share of plebeian thought yet i truly believe this one might top them all. Truly vapid.
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>>149230153
Both are good
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>>149230278
YES
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>>149230278
Not really, Southland Tales is the more /film/ of the two, but is ultimately not great either, like if Harmony Korine tried to make a cerebral film plus the TS Eliot stuff is retarded. They're fine American films, but not /film/ so to speak. Need to watch The Box.
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>>149230287
im just so far ahead u need a little time to catch up, friend ;)
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>>149230385
Perhaps. To say something so foolish this brazenly, you might be hiding something..
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>>149230373
>Need to watch The Box.
Don't bother with that outlook. It's the most mainstream of his films.
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>>149229777
Thesis confirmed.
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>>149230309
Both Quintet and Popeye?
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>>149230625
What outlook
So?
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>>149225804
whats on the non family edition? child porn?
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>>149230675
Quintet I haven't seen, Popeye is fine once you get past how it looks and the silliness
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>>149227381
i feel like this is kinda true, naked men are more radical and interesting to film. But not excluding women, just not inserting a naked woman for the sake of "art"
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>>149225804
>tries to expand taste
>is overwhelmed/not in the mood and puts on some shitty action or horror flick
this happens to me everytime, how do I broaden my view of cinema, give me some great entry level kinos.
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>>149230943
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>>149230835
>Both are good
>Quintet I haven't seen
The intellectual dishonesty and smugness of the '''people''' on this place is spectacular to behold time after time
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>>149231019
Yeah Quintet is good bro, you just got filtered. Sorry dude must suck to be retarded and get filtered by his best 70s film.
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>>149231065
>this reading comprehension
Are you literally retarded?
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About to watch this kino, although I know it'll be good beforehand even though I hate Altman. What am I in for /film/?

Tell me!
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>>149230715
Southland is more artsy, convoluted than Donnie, Box is the opposite.
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>>149231151
A good night's sleep
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>>149231151
all Newman movies are good
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>>149231151
Its really good, I love the score and the dialogue. I haven't seen it yet, but I think you'll agree its kino. Did Altman really direct it?
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>>149230278
there is genuine mystery to donnie darko. something a lot of /films/ lack.
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>>149231240
I ultimately liked both films a lot, I'm sure I'll like it if it's even remotely similar to those two. Surprised to hear this though.
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>>149231407
The best film is really a film I haven't seen, but I do agree that it is a kino I'm looking forward to watching it. I did like Newman in it he's great and yes Altman directed it, good from him his vision comes through the screen.
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>>149230859
>naked men are more radical and interesting to film
>How so?
just not inserting a naked woman for the sake of "art"
Why not?
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>>149231821
Whoops, place the second arrow a line below.
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>>149231821

for me its a question of overusing and sometimes forcing an aesthetic

an "art" aesthetic, like those old paintings and such. For example the worst example ive seen of putting a naked woman in an art film is in The Sacrifice of tarkovsky, i love that movie but that part where you see the girl naked in the hallway comes from out of nowere and has no significance to anything.

A naked man has more aesthetic potential imo because wwhen its done is not done in a strict beautiful way, sometimes its fat naked men, sometimes they are skinny and gross, has more shapes. So makes for more interesting things in the frame.

in my few experiences women see themselves as in a mirror way. They actually have a collective thinking process. While men see a naked woman as beauty.

I feel like the only solution for more interesting things would be to film old women that remind the expectator of their mother or grandmother (maybe i should do something with that)
Yesterday i filmed inside a vagina with a macro lens.

i hope i expressed myself well enough
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can music videos be /film/? i feel like they go to an experimental extreme that is way beyond even the most avant garde film here.
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What do you think Godard thinks of this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY1eFxgRR-k
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>>149232478
Could you give an example for that?
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>>149232478
It's all a matter of definition. For some people docs aren't films, animation isn't, shorts aren't, etc.
For more yes, they are, and there's plenty of kinos.
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>>149232610
Bruce Conner
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>>149232610

https://youtu.be/n-wEvzqdDZg?list=PLnSJ5Asp3wcm7lgdIJ-e_Tbh0Vfs9kIjN (specialy this one)

https://youtu.be/nO9aot9RgQc?list=PLnSJ5Asp3wcm7lgdIJ-e_Tbh0Vfs9kIjN

(and this)


https://youtu.be/rAJXg-Ubv3Y
https://youtu.be/WF34N4gJAKE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmozGmGoJuw
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>>149232478
some of the lebon brothers work might be applicable

https://vimeo.com/220328022
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>>149232478
Bruce Conner
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>>149233188
>https://vimeo.com/220328022
I thought you meant Simon Lebon; this Music video is kino;
https://vimeo.com/254520210
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>>149232705
>For some people docs aren't films, animation isn't, shorts aren't, etc.
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>>149232422
So am I reading it correctly that you don't see artistic/aesthetic potential in filming ATTRACTIVE nude people, rather than it being an inherent divide of gender?
>>149232809
Some of his films also work as music videos, but he's clearly more on the avant-garde film side of things.
>>149232981
Interesting indeed, at least some outrageous techniques on display here, but I can't see how it would be more extreme.
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>>149232422
Sounds like you might be interested in Egon Schiele, are you familiar with him? He painted male and female nudes in a similar non-idealized way to what you're describing.
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>>149235176
>Egon Schiele
No i did not knew him, thanks. Just looking at a few drawings i can see how many things he influenced



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