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Why did they not just peacefully make the drug deal? Was it necessary to cut they with a chainsaw? What was the point of the whole situation?
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>>147080353
to cut out the bullshit
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>>147080353
They wanted to take over their territory probably.
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>>147080353
What was their fucking plan?
>Ok guys, we don't have the drugs, when he comes into the room, you take his money and then we cut them in pieces with a chainsaw.

Seriously rubbing a bank is easier than doing this shit.
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They wanted the world chico
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NOW THE LEG, EH?
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>>147080353
serious question, why do mexicans, cubans, latinos have a tendency to cut body parts with knifes and chainsaw's? Is this a cultural fetish of theirs? Why not just simply shoot the guy in the end.
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>>147080353
This movie is so stupid jesus christ.
DePalma is a hack and if Al Pacino was not in this it would be a B-Movie.
It's only al and the soundtrack that makes this kino, everything else about so cliche and retarded. Worst than a Tarantino flick.
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>>147080619
ritual sacrifice
mexicans have always done it, for the other ones it's more of an african thing they've adopted
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>>147080353
In Cocaine Cowboys, Mickey Munday explained that the distributors and dealers involved in the coke boom of the 80s were mostly South Americans and how they chimped out a lot. Not as much as blacks but enough to significantly cut into profits. They're literally just low IQ. Want to assassinate a rival drug dealer? Do it quietly, perhaps make it look like a robbery or an accident? Nope. Take three of your guys with machine guns and open fire on your rival in a shopping mall killing 8 other innocent people. Pretty much gives the government no other choice but to escalate its activity against you. They were constantly high just like Tony Montana. They'd start beefs with each other over trivial shit that would end-up with mass slaughter. They were super conspicuous to law enforcement, like they'd buy a Porsche and drive it until the fuel tank ran out, abandon the car and go buy another. Retarded shit like that.
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>>147081029
>They were super conspicuous to law enforcement, like they'd buy a Porsche and drive it until the fuel tank ran out, abandon the car and go buy another. Retarded shit like that.

Sounds like they thought life was a GTA video game.
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>>147081122

If you snort enough coke and make enough money doing it, it unironically is.
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Did you forget it was a setup by this guy?
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>>147080353
I miss uzis and mac-10s, bros. They were in so many kinos in the 80s and had the best submachine gun aesthetic.
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>>147080461
>we don't have the drugs
But they did have the drugs.
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>>147081364
For all Tony knew it was but there's no evidence of this.
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>>147081364
this.
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>>147081616
But Tony has an excellent point. He thought of him as a threat the moment he started working with them.
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The motel this was filmed at in South Beach recently became a CVS Pharmacy.
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>>147080706
Idk man it was shot pretty well. If you're gonna blame the plot blame Oliver stone
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>>147081664
It probably wasn't a direct set up it was probably a deal with people they didn't know so they sent the new guys and it just went bad
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>>147080619
intimidation mostly
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>>147081856
or this
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>>147080706
>>147081748
Oliver Stone wrote a much larger script with Tony doing smaller drug deals. He spent months researching the drug trade and met with real drug dealers while doing his research. They cut a lot out from his script.In the novel Tony robs a bank in Miami.
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>>147081953
God damn this just makes me want to play vice city again. Does it still hold up bros?
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steven spielberg directed this scene

>>147080619
a lot of these guys are obsessed with making a name for themselves and using the power of intimidation. only problem is it doesnt work if your enemy is as ruthless as you are
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>>147080461
That literally only works once though
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>>147081615
No they didn’t. They had it close by.
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>>147082007
yes
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>>147082007
The Scarface video game is what you want to play. It's addicting as fuck.
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>>147080353
i remember my dad taking my mom me and older brother to see this. i was only 8yo and it left me a bit traumatized lol
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>>147080706
Faggot
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>>147081563
They're surprisingly heavy and uncomfortable. I had an Uzi for a while. Sold it and bought a Beretta CX4.
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>>147081364
Saliery?
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>>147082007
Beat it 100% over the summer.
>>147082096
That was amazing too. Never beat it.
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>>147080619
The spainish were big fans of lopping off hands or feet to fuck with the natives. It wouldnt surprise me if it came from that.
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>>147080537
You should see the scenes they cut out.
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>>147080353
That's how colombians do business
>t.an actual colombian
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I do legit believes some races should not be allowed into more sophisticated and civilized countries. I am not a racist but I am a culturist.
People from certain sub-cultures like the guys from this scene should not be allowed into any country.
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>>147082599
The same thing Jimmy Carter did in the 1980s for the Cuban refugees Joe Biden is doing right now except millions instead of thousands.
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>>147080619
Intimidation. Pic related is known as the Flower Vase Cut
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>>147081364
tony should have known, he killed mo zart
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>>147082706
no he is not, stop spreading right winged lies.
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>>147082764
he killed who?
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>>147082706
What's the benefit of having cuban and mexican immigrants in America?
Legit curious, I'm not an expert.
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>>147082776
>>147082706
>>147082599
jesus christ can we talk about the fucking movie?
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>>147082798
Some piano player
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>>147082814
Great for big business, more consumers, less ethnic harmony, less labor unions.
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>>147082830
Immigration is a big topic in this movie?
If Tony and his cuban buddies were not allowed into the USA, a lot less people would have died and , but we would also not have a kino movie.
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>>147080619
They were ritually eating each other less than 200 years ago
>>147082290
You are completely reversing the order of things
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>>147082814
They vote Democrat keeping the Democrats in power. It causes more government dependence by low wages. More taxes more government services ths politicians can take a cut of. More chaos more government control.
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>>147082814
i want to go back when it was just mexicans cubans and ricans coming into this country but now its worse with everything from south and central america coming in by the thousands
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>>147082087
I guess if you consider the dresser by the front door "close by" then you are correct. But in the real world, they had the drugs.
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The way Omars driver brings up the Columbians seems like they knew the Columbians were cowboys. Why would Omar ask Tony if he knew how to handle a machine gun and tell him he is going to need a couple other guys if Omar wanted Tony dead? Omar knew the Columbians were dangerous and so did Tony.
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>>147082983
>New World cultures have a monopoly on maiming and dismemberment
real retard hours right now
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>>147083401
>retarded greentext strawman
typical
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>>147083370
i dont think omar set tony up since their first job was buying weed but then tony had to open his big mouth so omar was like ok lets see if you can handle these crazy colombians
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>>147083571
Wasnt Tonys firsrt job killing the communist Rabanga in Freedom Town? Dont remember Tony buying weed.
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>>147080353
They were wacked-out indians.
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>>147082949
No one wants to hear your falsehoods. And there's tons of good refugees shown in the movie. You want to abandon the majority good people to suffer due to the minority bad people that might get in and then blame the politician who was trying to help other human beings. Regardless, no one wants to hear more modern political arguments.

>>147083370
Agreed, Omar thought they were dangerous and figured it would be great to risk this 'asshole's' life instead of his own.
>>147083669
When Omar first meets Tony, they are discussing a shipment of MJ and Tony scoffs at the payment Omar says they'll get. That's what starts their beef
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>>147080619
>all these replies and no mention of School of the Americas
Hmm
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>>147083825
>trying to help other human beings
lmao stupid naive faggot
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>>147083669
no i meant when him and manny meet up with omar. yeah their first job was that hit but i meant drug wise
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>>147083442
>no argument
typical. i'll accept your concession in good faith though, because i have a soft spot for the mentally retarded.
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>>147080353
growing up is raelizing that scarface is a nigger movie
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>>147083916
>doubling down on downs
never fails
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>>147082290
Anti-white comment, are you jewish or something ? The spaniards "were big fans of lopping off hands or feet to fuck with the natives", the same natives who used to do human sacrifices all day err day ? Those Catholic spaniards ? This is your brain on judaism, disgusting.
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>>147084035
lol u mad bro?
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>>147083825
>You want to abandon the majority good people to suffer due to the minority bad people
That "majority good people" will become the "minority bad people" in your country and make your kind suffer.
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>>147080537
They weren't immigrants, they were political refugees
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>>147084506
>They weren't immigrants, they were political refugees
fucking kek
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>>147080619
YA SEE THE AZTECS..
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>>147084231
>>147082983
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ONLY ONE SIDE CAN DO BAD THINGS
Grow up, you're almost as bad as the people who say all whites are evil on Twitter while defending every murder a minority has ever committed.
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>>147084011
Do you think Sopranos and Goodfellas are n-word shows?
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>>147084011
It's not, watch director Brian DePalma's interview on the making of the film. They wanted to re-release the film with an all hip hop soundtrack but DePalma shut it down because he hates rap music. It caused a lot of ooking and eeking in the hip hop community because many rap artists already made the music for the re-release because they thought it was a done deal.
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>>147081364
This, dude intentionally tried to get tony killed
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>>147084011
It's not. It's a harsh reality check to people who want that lifestyle. Tony got the girl, the car, the house and the money but lost it all in the worst way. he gets shot in the back and dies a nobody. Hip Hop artist conveniently leave this aspect out because most of them are LARPing for easy money.

>>147083825
>Agreed, Omar thought they were dangerous and figured it would be great to risk this 'asshole's' life instead of his own.
I figured either way would've been a win-win for Omar since it was essentially a suicide mission. Given Tony's reaction, he knew it would be serious trouble.
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>>147084930
>every individual and group is interchangeable and history and culture aren't real
based and tardpilled
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>>147085700
>Durrrrr culture is an all compelling force that can prevent all men from doing bad things
How do you fucking dress yourself?
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>>147085700
>>147086201
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>>147086201
>more retarded universalisms
you are mentally ill and also retarded
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>>147086357
Define universalism, I'll wait.
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>>147081364
A setup? Isn't this guy DEA which is why he got hung from the helicopter? Why would a cop knowingly send Tony to die?
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>>147080537
is there even any other anti immigration movies? lol
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>>147080619
Spaniars are muslim mutts latinos are spaniar mutts. Violence is a dominant gene
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>>147086394
>akshually knowledge is impossible and i'm gonna pretend to not know anything
This fake nihilism is the final cope
There is nothing left for you but suicide
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>>147086560
Nice non sequitur. It's OK anon, I knew you wouldn't be able to provide the definition because then you would have to out yourself as a shit eating retard that uses words it doesn't even understand.
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>>147086432
Didn't Sosa mention he was dirty?
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>>147086632
>>147086560
Stop samefagging and head to /news/ or /pol/ faggot
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>>147086733
But arguing with my lower retardself is the only way to ensure I stay mentally fit
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>>147086632
>he had to google it
jfc
complete the system of retard nihilism and kys
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>>147082124
how it feels to have a dad bros? asking for the 80% of the non white males
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>>147080706
Phantom Of The Paradise is pure gold, proves he's not a hack.
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>>147083879
this was a rabbit hole I didn't expect, but it makes so much sense. Wild how its so obviously scrubbed
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>>147082128
Those look like fucking paintball guns
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>>147081364
Yep, Tony was a reckless hothead and he knew he could fuck him over by sending him to deal with a gang of dodgy colombians.
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>>147086890
Yeah I wasn't well versed in that 18th century theological concept, clearly you weren't either since you used it in a context that makes no sense whatsoever. Or are you at this point honestly trying to defend bringing up a theological concept in a discussion that had nothing to do with theology and never brought it up prior to that? You also don't seem to know what the word nihilism means. Did you by chance eat led paint chips as a child?
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>>147080353
What I don't get is if they planned to rip off these guys then why did they even bring coke to the meeting?
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>>147088022
> 18th century theological concept
holy fuck
I know I already called you a retard but goddamn are you retarded
Maybe google some more
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>>147088218
There's no definition for the word in which you were using it in the right context. My initial post pointed out that human sacrifice and maiming natives are both bad things, you replied with a complete non sequitur strawman post saying I implied "every individual and group is interchangeable and history and culture aren't real" which is both retarded in itself and shows you've had no comprehension of what you are arguing against from the beginning.
Gonna take that as a hard yes on the led paint chips. I'm sorry for what happened to you.
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>>147080353
>never met a cuban
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who cares you piece of chit
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>>147088751
>ohhh ohh I wanna fuck my sister ooo oooh
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>>147080461
I’ve rubbed a few banks before, and take it from me, it goes a lot smoother if you ask them nicely before applying lotion to the walls.
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>>147083401
New worlder here, its fucking true.
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>>147088670
>owning yourself by reiterating the same vague platitudinous bullshit from before
sasuga retard-kun
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>>147081270
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I'd just like to mention for the sake of television and film discussion that I watched this movie for the first time a few years ago expecting it to be cheesy, dated ass based off of all of the niggers and wiggers who hype it up but it's honestly really fucking good and based and it's mostly thanks to Pacino carrying the entire thing from start to finish
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>>147080619
Aztecs have been doing that for 15000 years
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>>147088899
Its not good, its excellent.
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>>147088838
Shit didn't realize I was talking to a weebtard too, I'm incredibly sorry for your parent's loss
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>>147088899
It got so much enduring hype for a reason, that's not like modern hype for product that just gets replaced by next hype
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>>147084011
Actually, as a kid and a teenager I never gave the movie a chance because it was always surrounded by “gangsta” culture so I assumed it was gangsta rap shit or something. Then when I actually watched it, I realized it was one of my favorite films and all the retarded wiggers and hood rats looking up to Tony were too fucking stupid to get the point of the movie, and had surrounded it with culture that poorly represented the film.
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>>147084231
Did you seriously just use “all day err day” in a sentence and expect to be taken seriously?
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>>147082983
>>>147082983
>They were doing it as a ritual, not for fun. The Spanish taught them plenty of new cruelty
>> Spanish conquistadors outside the capitol of Caparra, where a group of Indians had been captured and subdued. While waiting for Ponce de León to arrive from the capitol, the troops amused themselves by harassing the captives. Guilarte de Salazar gave an old Indian woman a folded piece of paper and informed her that it was a letter that was to be carried to the governor- if she refused, she would be fed to the dogs. The frightened woman accepted in the hopes of surviving, but after she turned and began down the road Salazar released Becerrillo and commanded him to take her. As she was charged by the dog, the old woman dropped to her knees and prayed "Please, my Lord Dog. I am on my way to take this letter to Christians. I beg you, my Lord Dog, please do not hurt me."[7] According to witnesses, Becerrillo stopped short and regarded the woman intently. He sniffed at the woman and the paper in her hands, before turning away, lifting a leg, and marking her with urine. He stood by as the woman returned unharmed to the Spanish troops. Upon his arrival, Ponce de León was informed of what had occurred. He commanded the troops, "Free her and send her safely back to her people. Then let us leave this place for now. I will not permit the compassion and forgiveness of a dog to outshine that of a true Christian."
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>>147080619
https://youtu.be/ZCiDUfhV43c?t=290
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>>147082128
>They're surprisingly heavy and uncomfortable.
That's why only real men should wield them.



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