Why did they not just peacefully make the drug deal? Was it necessary to cut they with a chainsaw? What was the point of the whole situation?
>>147080353to cut out the bullshit
>>147080353They wanted to take over their territory probably.
>>147080353What was their fucking plan?>Ok guys, we don't have the drugs, when he comes into the room, you take his money and then we cut them in pieces with a chainsaw.Seriously rubbing a bank is easier than doing this shit.
They wanted the world chico
NOW THE LEG, EH?
>>147080353serious question, why do mexicans, cubans, latinos have a tendency to cut body parts with knifes and chainsaw's? Is this a cultural fetish of theirs? Why not just simply shoot the guy in the end.
>>147080353This movie is so stupid jesus christ.DePalma is a hack and if Al Pacino was not in this it would be a B-Movie.It's only al and the soundtrack that makes this kino, everything else about so cliche and retarded. Worst than a Tarantino flick.
>>147080619ritual sacrificemexicans have always done it, for the other ones it's more of an african thing they've adopted
>>147080353In Cocaine Cowboys, Mickey Munday explained that the distributors and dealers involved in the coke boom of the 80s were mostly South Americans and how they chimped out a lot. Not as much as blacks but enough to significantly cut into profits. They're literally just low IQ. Want to assassinate a rival drug dealer? Do it quietly, perhaps make it look like a robbery or an accident? Nope. Take three of your guys with machine guns and open fire on your rival in a shopping mall killing 8 other innocent people. Pretty much gives the government no other choice but to escalate its activity against you. They were constantly high just like Tony Montana. They'd start beefs with each other over trivial shit that would end-up with mass slaughter. They were super conspicuous to law enforcement, like they'd buy a Porsche and drive it until the fuel tank ran out, abandon the car and go buy another. Retarded shit like that.
>>147081029>They were super conspicuous to law enforcement, like they'd buy a Porsche and drive it until the fuel tank ran out, abandon the car and go buy another. Retarded shit like that.Sounds like they thought life was a GTA video game.
>>147081122If you snort enough coke and make enough money doing it, it unironically is.
Did you forget it was a setup by this guy?
>>147080353I miss uzis and mac-10s, bros. They were in so many kinos in the 80s and had the best submachine gun aesthetic.
>>147080461>we don't have the drugsBut they did have the drugs.
>>147081364For all Tony knew it was but there's no evidence of this.
>>147081616But Tony has an excellent point. He thought of him as a threat the moment he started working with them.
The motel this was filmed at in South Beach recently became a CVS Pharmacy.
>>147080706Idk man it was shot pretty well. If you're gonna blame the plot blame Oliver stone
>>147081664It probably wasn't a direct set up it was probably a deal with people they didn't know so they sent the new guys and it just went bad
>>147080706>>147081748Oliver Stone wrote a much larger script with Tony doing smaller drug deals. He spent months researching the drug trade and met with real drug dealers while doing his research. They cut a lot out from his script.In the novel Tony robs a bank in Miami.
>>147081953God damn this just makes me want to play vice city again. Does it still hold up bros?
steven spielberg directed this scene >>147080619a lot of these guys are obsessed with making a name for themselves and using the power of intimidation. only problem is it doesnt work if your enemy is as ruthless as you are
>>147080461That literally only works once though
>>147081615No they didn’t. They had it close by.
>>147082007The Scarface video game is what you want to play. It's addicting as fuck.
>>147080353i remember my dad taking my mom me and older brother to see this. i was only 8yo and it left me a bit traumatized lol
>>147081563They're surprisingly heavy and uncomfortable. I had an Uzi for a while. Sold it and bought a Beretta CX4.
>>147082007Beat it 100% over the summer. >>147082096That was amazing too. Never beat it.
>>147080619The spainish were big fans of lopping off hands or feet to fuck with the natives. It wouldnt surprise me if it came from that.
>>147080537You should see the scenes they cut out.
>>147080353That's how colombians do business>t.an actual colombian
I do legit believes some races should not be allowed into more sophisticated and civilized countries. I am not a racist but I am a culturist.People from certain sub-cultures like the guys from this scene should not be allowed into any country.
>>147082599The same thing Jimmy Carter did in the 1980s for the Cuban refugees Joe Biden is doing right now except millions instead of thousands.
>>147080619Intimidation. Pic related is known as the Flower Vase Cut
>>147081364tony should have known, he killed mo zart
>>147082706no he is not, stop spreading right winged lies.
>>147082764he killed who?
>>147082706What's the benefit of having cuban and mexican immigrants in America?Legit curious, I'm not an expert.
>>147082776>>147082706>>147082599jesus christ can we talk about the fucking movie?
>>147082798Some piano player
>>147082814Great for big business, more consumers, less ethnic harmony, less labor unions.
>>147082830Immigration is a big topic in this movie?If Tony and his cuban buddies were not allowed into the USA, a lot less people would have died and , but we would also not have a kino movie.
>>147080619They were ritually eating each other less than 200 years ago>>147082290You are completely reversing the order of things
>>147082814They vote Democrat keeping the Democrats in power. It causes more government dependence by low wages. More taxes more government services ths politicians can take a cut of. More chaos more government control.
>>147082814i want to go back when it was just mexicans cubans and ricans coming into this country but now its worse with everything from south and central america coming in by the thousands
>>147082087I guess if you consider the dresser by the front door "close by" then you are correct. But in the real world, they had the drugs.
The way Omars driver brings up the Columbians seems like they knew the Columbians were cowboys. Why would Omar ask Tony if he knew how to handle a machine gun and tell him he is going to need a couple other guys if Omar wanted Tony dead? Omar knew the Columbians were dangerous and so did Tony.
>>147082983>New World cultures have a monopoly on maiming and dismembermentreal retard hours right now
>>147083401>retarded greentext strawmantypical
>>147083370i dont think omar set tony up since their first job was buying weed but then tony had to open his big mouth so omar was like ok lets see if you can handle these crazy colombians
>>147083571Wasnt Tonys firsrt job killing the communist Rabanga in Freedom Town? Dont remember Tony buying weed.
>>147080353They were wacked-out indians.
>>147082949No one wants to hear your falsehoods. And there's tons of good refugees shown in the movie. You want to abandon the majority good people to suffer due to the minority bad people that might get in and then blame the politician who was trying to help other human beings. Regardless, no one wants to hear more modern political arguments.>>147083370Agreed, Omar thought they were dangerous and figured it would be great to risk this 'asshole's' life instead of his own.>>147083669When Omar first meets Tony, they are discussing a shipment of MJ and Tony scoffs at the payment Omar says they'll get. That's what starts their beef
>>147080619>all these replies and no mention of School of the AmericasHmm
>>147083825>trying to help other human beingslmao stupid naive faggot
>>147083669no i meant when him and manny meet up with omar. yeah their first job was that hit but i meant drug wise
>>147083442>no argumenttypical. i'll accept your concession in good faith though, because i have a soft spot for the mentally retarded.
>>147080353growing up is raelizing that scarface is a nigger movie
>>147083916>doubling down on downsnever fails
>>147082290Anti-white comment, are you jewish or something ? The spaniards "were big fans of lopping off hands or feet to fuck with the natives", the same natives who used to do human sacrifices all day err day ? Those Catholic spaniards ? This is your brain on judaism, disgusting.
>>147084035lol u mad bro?
>>147083825>You want to abandon the majority good people to suffer due to the minority bad peopleThat "majority good people" will become the "minority bad people" in your country and make your kind suffer.
>>147080537They weren't immigrants, they were political refugees
>>147084506>They weren't immigrants, they were political refugeesfucking kek
>>147080619YA SEE THE AZTECS..
>>147084231>>147082983>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ONLY ONE SIDE CAN DO BAD THINGSGrow up, you're almost as bad as the people who say all whites are evil on Twitter while defending every murder a minority has ever committed.
>>147084011Do you think Sopranos and Goodfellas are n-word shows?
>>147084011It's not, watch director Brian DePalma's interview on the making of the film. They wanted to re-release the film with an all hip hop soundtrack but DePalma shut it down because he hates rap music. It caused a lot of ooking and eeking in the hip hop community because many rap artists already made the music for the re-release because they thought it was a done deal.
>>147081364This, dude intentionally tried to get tony killed
>>147084011It's not. It's a harsh reality check to people who want that lifestyle. Tony got the girl, the car, the house and the money but lost it all in the worst way. he gets shot in the back and dies a nobody. Hip Hop artist conveniently leave this aspect out because most of them are LARPing for easy money.>>147083825>Agreed, Omar thought they were dangerous and figured it would be great to risk this 'asshole's' life instead of his own.I figured either way would've been a win-win for Omar since it was essentially a suicide mission. Given Tony's reaction, he knew it would be serious trouble.
>>147084930>every individual and group is interchangeable and history and culture aren't realbased and tardpilled
>>147085700>Durrrrr culture is an all compelling force that can prevent all men from doing bad thingsHow do you fucking dress yourself?
>>147086201>more retarded universalismsyou are mentally ill and also retarded
>>147086357Define universalism, I'll wait.
>>147081364A setup? Isn't this guy DEA which is why he got hung from the helicopter? Why would a cop knowingly send Tony to die?
>>147080537is there even any other anti immigration movies? lol
>>147080619Spaniars are muslim mutts latinos are spaniar mutts. Violence is a dominant gene
>>147086394>akshually knowledge is impossible and i'm gonna pretend to not know anythingThis fake nihilism is the final copeThere is nothing left for you but suicide
>>147086560Nice non sequitur. It's OK anon, I knew you wouldn't be able to provide the definition because then you would have to out yourself as a shit eating retard that uses words it doesn't even understand.
>>147086432Didn't Sosa mention he was dirty?
>>147086632>>147086560Stop samefagging and head to /news/ or /pol/ faggot
>>147086733But arguing with my lower retardself is the only way to ensure I stay mentally fit
>>147086632>he had to google itjfccomplete the system of retard nihilism and kys
>>147082124how it feels to have a dad bros? asking for the 80% of the non white males
>>147080706Phantom Of The Paradise is pure gold, proves he's not a hack.
>>147083879this was a rabbit hole I didn't expect, but it makes so much sense. Wild how its so obviously scrubbed
>>147082128Those look like fucking paintball guns
>>147081364Yep, Tony was a reckless hothead and he knew he could fuck him over by sending him to deal with a gang of dodgy colombians.
>>147086890Yeah I wasn't well versed in that 18th century theological concept, clearly you weren't either since you used it in a context that makes no sense whatsoever. Or are you at this point honestly trying to defend bringing up a theological concept in a discussion that had nothing to do with theology and never brought it up prior to that? You also don't seem to know what the word nihilism means. Did you by chance eat led paint chips as a child?
>>147080353What I don't get is if they planned to rip off these guys then why did they even bring coke to the meeting?
>>147088022> 18th century theological conceptholy fuckI know I already called you a retard but goddamn are you retardedMaybe google some more
>>147088218There's no definition for the word in which you were using it in the right context. My initial post pointed out that human sacrifice and maiming natives are both bad things, you replied with a complete non sequitur strawman post saying I implied "every individual and group is interchangeable and history and culture aren't real" which is both retarded in itself and shows you've had no comprehension of what you are arguing against from the beginning.Gonna take that as a hard yes on the led paint chips. I'm sorry for what happened to you.
>>147080353>never met a cuban
who cares you piece of chit
>>147088751>ohhh ohh I wanna fuck my sister ooo oooh
>>147080461I’ve rubbed a few banks before, and take it from me, it goes a lot smoother if you ask them nicely before applying lotion to the walls.
>>147083401New worlder here, its fucking true.
>>147088670>owning yourself by reiterating the same vague platitudinous bullshit from beforesasuga retard-kun
I'd just like to mention for the sake of television and film discussion that I watched this movie for the first time a few years ago expecting it to be cheesy, dated ass based off of all of the niggers and wiggers who hype it up but it's honestly really fucking good and based and it's mostly thanks to Pacino carrying the entire thing from start to finish
>>147080619Aztecs have been doing that for 15000 years
>>147088899Its not good, its excellent.
>>147088838Shit didn't realize I was talking to a weebtard too, I'm incredibly sorry for your parent's loss
>>147088899It got so much enduring hype for a reason, that's not like modern hype for product that just gets replaced by next hype
>>147084011Actually, as a kid and a teenager I never gave the movie a chance because it was always surrounded by “gangsta” culture so I assumed it was gangsta rap shit or something. Then when I actually watched it, I realized it was one of my favorite films and all the retarded wiggers and hood rats looking up to Tony were too fucking stupid to get the point of the movie, and had surrounded it with culture that poorly represented the film.
>>147084231Did you seriously just use “all day err day” in a sentence and expect to be taken seriously?
>>147082983>>>147082983>They were doing it as a ritual, not for fun. The Spanish taught them plenty of new cruelty>> Spanish conquistadors outside the capitol of Caparra, where a group of Indians had been captured and subdued. While waiting for Ponce de León to arrive from the capitol, the troops amused themselves by harassing the captives. Guilarte de Salazar gave an old Indian woman a folded piece of paper and informed her that it was a letter that was to be carried to the governor- if she refused, she would be fed to the dogs. The frightened woman accepted in the hopes of surviving, but after she turned and began down the road Salazar released Becerrillo and commanded him to take her. As she was charged by the dog, the old woman dropped to her knees and prayed "Please, my Lord Dog. I am on my way to take this letter to Christians. I beg you, my Lord Dog, please do not hurt me." According to witnesses, Becerrillo stopped short and regarded the woman intently. He sniffed at the woman and the paper in her hands, before turning away, lifting a leg, and marking her with urine. He stood by as the woman returned unharmed to the Spanish troops. Upon his arrival, Ponce de León was informed of what had occurred. He commanded the troops, "Free her and send her safely back to her people. Then let us leave this place for now. I will not permit the compassion and forgiveness of a dog to outshine that of a true Christian."
>>147082128>They're surprisingly heavy and uncomfortable.That's why only real men should wield them.