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Why do people swear up and down that this is the best bond film? I'll never understand it. Is it just the videogame (which was amazing no lie)? The film seems so soulless. The only good element was Xena Onatopp and maybe Sean Bean.
>Plot that makes 0 sense outside of the cold war
>Horrific CGI gunfights that actually look worse than the videogame
>Clunky outdated tech everywhere
>80s porno music (wtf)
>Script was clearly written with Dalton in mind and not some goofy chubby chasing manlet
>Bond drives a fucking Z3

Hell Tommorow Never Dies is an infinitely better movie. The scene in the parking garage is classic bond and fits Brosnan perfectly.
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>>145057883
I wouldn't even say that is top five.
I've never met a single person that thought it was the best.
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is this the architect movie?
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>>145057883
no one thinks it's the best bond film.
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>>145057883
Cause Goldeneye64 and comfy memories.
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>mfw my mom had a drunken rant about Goldeneye movie being nothing like the game
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>>145058031
Ever play pic related? It's one of the best GBA shooters ever made and a technical marvel. If you have an emulator check it out. It looks like a build engine game and has a stable frame-rate.

What does this have to do with the movie? Nothing.
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ITT: unabashed severe faggotry
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Goldfinger, The Spy Who Loved Me, The Living Daylights, GoldenEye and Casino Royale are the objective kinos of each Bond era.

On Her Majesty's Secret Service doesn't count because Lazenby was a one-and-done.
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>>145057883
>Horrific CGI gunfights
what
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>>145057883
>Hell Tommorow Never Dies is an infinitely better movie
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>>145057883
Tight pacing, unique soundtrack that works, great villains (Alec, Xenia, Boris) the cold open is great and so is the tank chase scene. I would rank it as my 11th favorite Bond movie, just outside the top ten. Very good, not quite great. However definitely superior to any Bond movie that came after it, although TWINE is fairly good.
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>>145057883
>the only good element was Xena Onatopp
nigga Izabella Scorupco was where it was it
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>>145057925
>>145058022

its the best
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>>145058328
>the cold open is great
>half of everything is luck, James
>and the other half?
>*alarm sounds*
>fate
That shit was so cash
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>>145058357
>we only saw her in the bikini for a quick 1.5 second shot of her walking on the beach
director was gay
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>>145058357
>>145058328
>BORIS! Stop jerking off to my pictures!
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>>145057883
>Clunky outdated tech everywhere
you could say this about practically every bond movie
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>>145057883
It's good but it's a step down from the truly great Bond movies.
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>>145058031
correct
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>>145057883
Zoomies grew up with the Architect and it's his best movie
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>>145057883
>shit plot
>shit writing
>worst bond girls
>worst supporting actors
Almost every bond film before and after it were better.
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can't pozz the bros
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>>145058412
yeah they were criminally restrained with her.
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>>145057883
>Tommorow Never Dies is an infinitely better movie
ok retard. You may have an argument in The World is Not Enough but Tomorrow Never Dies is Roger Moore tier retarded.
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>>145058253
>casino royale
Skyfall is better
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Just a poor man's Timothy.
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>>145058253
casino royale sucks ass even by the extremely low standards of craigshit.
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>>145058253
>Goldfinger
Thunderball was better
>The Living Daylights
License to Kill was better
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the plane going over the cliff and him chasing after it on a motorcycle then skydiving into the plummeting plane is maybe my favorite stunt sequence in the series. Also the corkscrew car jump.
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>>145057883
I really like Sean Bean in this. Surprised to hear you don't like this movie, I think it's good.

>>145058253
License to kill>living daylights
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>>145059144
It's extremely unfortunate they couldn't get it all in one shot because they actually fucking did that the absolute mad men
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>>145058860
>Roger Moore tier retarded
pleb
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>>145059096
>Thunderball was better than goldfinger
Only the title sequence
https://youtu.be/sT0x7QiJI1g
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All of Brosnan's films are good. Prove me wrong
Goldeneye is literally top 2
>inb4 muh fill in the blank contrarian choice
Only one that might be better is goldfinger
Tomorrow Never Dies is fun, and the villain unique. Ending on the boat is great action
The World is Not Enough is Brosnan's second best. Elektra is a great villain and once again the action is great
Die Another Day is retarded, but it's fun. Much more so than the trash that's come since
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>>145058462
>>145059144
The Bond movies often have great stunts, even the below average ones.
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>>145059250
No, everything about Thunderball is better
>Bond wanting to quit
>being the most brazen and least polished out of all 00s
>Bangs the most babes, and the hottest babes
>openly spiteful to female villain he bangs
>perfect cod war plot
>insane stunts for the era
>great pacing from beginning to end
>comfy pairing with Dr. No for comfy Caribbean setting
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>>145059250
and the Bond girls
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>>145059223
Moore gets way too much crap
But then alotta fags think fun = bad
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>>145059361
>>145059223
there's nothing fun about retards and niggers
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>>145059296
Die another day was too dumb and goofy for me. Diamonds in Iceland, really?
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>>145058462
The same T-72 tank featured in the Red Dwarf episode Tongue Tied.
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>>145059369
Moore is very relaxed in the role. And his lighter playboy attitude works great
Fags who don't like it should learn to lighten up a bit
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>>145059223
Based list, Roger Moore was the biggest chad of his day
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>>145059034
Imagine a movie with
>Sean Connery as the Ayatolla
>Frank Vincent as the Shah of Iran
>Timothy Dalton as young Saddam Hussein

Shit would be kino
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>>145059336
That's another one of my favorites. And also in that movie the part where he's waterskiing on his feet behind the seaplane and all the stuff in that sequence with fighting on the plane and throwing the guy out. Love it at the end when he grabs a fistful of money, laughs, and tosses it out the side.
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>>145059449
Moore's ability to play the part has zero correlation to the quality of the films.
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People shit on it because the director was new to films and shot mostly television. That's why many of the characters and actors are framed like they're in a tv show, but it also works because it was Brosnan'a first Bond movie and we wanted a really good look at the face of the franchise.

It also had humor in it and didn't take itself seriously.
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>>145057883
Nostalgia + Contrarianism. I have no ties to Bond, hadn’t seen a single one. With Covid coming around, I binged every single one. Only the Craig ones are watchable, the rest are complete trash, especially Brosnan.
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>>145057883
>SOULLESS
Is this the mark of an absolute retard?
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>>145059474

It has two of the all time best Bond girls, an actual suave Bond who isn't niggerish, and a good villain.
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>>145058031
This.
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>>145057883
>s it just the videogame (which was amazing no lie)
That came out two years after the film, which was acclaimed. So no.
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>>145059250
I need to rewatch Thunderball again. I saw it when I was like 10. I remember he kills a tranny at the beginning, then he goes underwater and slits people's throats. That's all I remember
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>>145059398
>he doesn't enjoy the nk opening, bond strutting around everywhere like he owns the world, sword fight, car chase on ice, and Brosnan quite literally owning the role
It is pants on head retarded
But the action is great and Brosnan makes the movie fun
I regularly turn it on if it's on tv, don't do so with others
>oh dear, do you want to continue?
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>>145059564
if that's all you remember, it should still rank atop the upper echelons of Bond films for you.
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>>145059336
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>>145059570
I just remember being really unimpressed by the intro where he's surfing or something. It was from the period of truly awful cgi in action movies.
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>>145059296

I can't. The 3 after Goldeneye are at least decent. Die Another Day is as good as the others or better until the last 20-30 min.
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>>145058253
None of the Craig ones are good
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>>145057883
Who says that?
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>>145059491
This is obvious. Anons pretend to dislike Craig to seem edgy
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>>145059250
Nothing happens in Thunderball
>swimming
>swimming
>bad guy dies
That's it
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>>145059664

That was truly awful cgi, but that's in the last 20-30 min of the movie
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>>145058253
OHMSS also doesn't count because it's shit
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>>145059664
Huh? The surfing at the beginning is real
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>>145058031
One of the greatest British videogame developers of all time reduced to a puppet of Microsoft. Very sad.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_oMCy3IZAQE
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>>145059491
>Only the Craig ones are watchable, the rest are complete trash, especially Brosnan.
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The Spy Who Loved Me>Live and Let Die>Octopussy>Moonraker>For Your Eyes Only>The Man With the Golden Gun>A View to a Kill
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>>145059981
Close to mine. Swap Golden Gun and FYEO
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>>145059981
I'd swap FYEO with Moonraker, but otherwise I completely agree. Octopussy is criminally underrated
>I'd heard the price of eggs was going up, but isn't that a little high?
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>>145059221
that would have been cool, I think it's still impressive. I've been trying to pay more attention to the stunt work when I watch Bond movies lately.
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>>145059981
Golden Gun and Octopussy are his best ones imo
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Soulless? Are you on crack OP? Whether or not you think it's the best Bond film, you have to see the soul.
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>>145059628
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGvk2DXxIGE&list=PLWv6NgYmPAirmtI1d3QzX6MXddbn2B-e8&ab_channel=MarvinHamlisch-Topic
Perfection
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>>145059962
I did think it was odd how much more drinking there is in the craig movies
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>>145059962
>excluding Spectre

Craig must be well up there by now in martinis.
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>>145059962
I thought for sure that Moore bonked the most
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>>145059799
they're either dull films or tonally off-kilter, Craig himself is one of the more talented actors in the films however
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>>145060229
In raw numbers he did, but Connery fucked the most girls per movie. In FRWL he sleeps with four women, two of them at the same time.
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>>145059981
Spy Who Loved Me > Live and Let Die > Octopussy > For Your Eyes Only > Man With The Golden Gun > Moonraker > A View to a Kill

From Russia With Love > Goldfinger > Thunderball > Dr. No > You Only Live Twice > Diamonds Are Forever

The Living Daylights > Licence to Kill (love both, mind)

The World is not Enough > Goldeneye > Tomorrow Never Dies > Die Another Day

Casino Royale > Quantum of Solace (fight me) > Skyfall > Spectre

Best looking Bond Girls of each actor's tenure: Claudine Auger, Diana Rigg, Barbara Bach, Maryam D'Abo, Sophie Marceau (sorry Famke, it was close), Eva Green.
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Why oh why did they do that stupid as Hell brother angle in Spectre?
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>>145060402
Does this actually make a difference at all? It's literally just gin and vermouth.
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>>145057883
Because loads of people were 8-20 years old when it came out and one of their first contacts with Bond and that makes it The best Movie ever
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>>145060353
In my head Moore fucked like 5 women in every film. Obviously I'm remembering it wrong. I think I just imagine that because he was the Bond who was the most typical 'womaniser'
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>>145060506
They took it from Austin Powers in Goldmember. Think about it, Austin finds out Dr. Evil is his brother. The parody influenced the series it was making fun of
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Carly Simon - Nobody Does it Better
Shirley Bassey - Goldfinger
Gladys Knight - Licence To Kill
Sheena Easton - For Your Eyes Only
Tina Turner - Goldeneye

Proof that only female vocalists make the best Bond themes. inb4 Billie Eilish
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>>145060606
The eyebrow is a more powerful sexual orgam than the penis, meaning that you are right, anon.
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>>145060655
You may enjoy this, my good man

https://youtu.be/Nwz8CahbALg
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>>145060655
FYEO by Sheena Easton, especially in how it's used in the score and the ending. When Milena says "For your eyes only darling" and strips and they go skinnydipping as Sheena does a reprise of the song, it makes me feel warm in my soul.
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>>145057883
People spent 100s of hours role playing as this bond. Don't have time to get into how memories and the brain works but the video game is the reason.
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>>145060960
See Bond would use a bitch to survive. He's cold blooded.
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>>145057883
only a total retard or an uninformed plebian could watch goldeneye and think it's not easily one of the best bonds.

even outside the context of being a bond flick, it's just a fantastic action movie.
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>>145060443
>Sophie Marceau
How you gonna disrespect ourgirl Christmas like that
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>>145061170
Sophie is honestly one of the best looking women ever, please do not disrespect my waifu. She also comes multiple times per year, and can probably do nuclear physics even better than big-brain-Denise
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>>145061116
>One of the best Bonds
"no"
>Just a great action movie
"no"

It's alright for what it is, but it's full of period gimmickry that aged it badly. David Arnold's soundtrack is completely unlistenable, for example.
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>>145057883
>>Plot that makes 0 sense outside of the cold war
The plot was rewritten to be about the aftermath of the cold war and the loss of purpose of people like James Bond. Also the skeletons Britain has in its closet.
>Horrific CGI gunfights that actually look worse than the videogame
What are you talking about?
>80s porno music (wtf)
The soundtrack is absolutely amazing.

GoldenEye is a masterpiece. The dialogue is sharp. The themes are resonant. It's a deconstruction of Bond.

"One half of everything is luck, James."
"And the other half?"
"Fate."

Pure soul.
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>>145057883
>>Clunky outdated tech everywhere
How on earth is this a criticism?
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The cheesiness of most Bond movies is simply impenetrable to me. Goldeneye is good because it's comparatively less ridiculous than most other movies in the franchise.
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>>145061618
>"One half of everything is luck, James."
>"And the other half?"
>"Fate."

Pur Schlock.
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>>145058524
i just noticed the BMW logo was changed to BBW, holy fuck
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Hello, James.
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There's a direct thematic connection between On Her Majesty's Secret Service and GoldenEye. Bond wants out. He has wanted out for a long time. And love offers him a chance to be free. The series could have ended with GoldenEye and it would have felt fulfilled.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZyRvbdeZHM
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>>145058462
It's also important as the first Bond movie after the Cold War ended.
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>>145057883
You're right, it's the game.

The best bond kino is The Living Daylights.
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>>145058154
based
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>>145062544
The film came out two years before the game and singlehandedly revitalized the Bond IP.
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>>145060655
>Carly Simon - Nobody Does it Better

Best Bond song ever. Best pre-credits opening scene. Best opening credits. Best I'm Alan Partridge episode. Best Bond car. Best Bond villain in Jaws. Best lighting consultant.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7__rt0hRm8s
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>>145059096
LDL vs LTK is debatable I think but Thunderball is pure bond kino. Best of the Connery films and in my top 5 bond films easily.
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GoldenEye is the last one before they give Bond a phone. With everything else after it they had to write around instant telecommunication and he couldn't be "out in the field" anymore without some crazy, catastrophic shit going down, which happens 2-3 times per movie in the Craig era. Hoping they go back to the 60s with the next batch.
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>>145065254
To be fair, Tomorrow Never Dies did it right.
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>>145057883
>op's opinion on goldeneye
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>>145058328
Ourumov was also a great villain. He could easily have carried his own film. Brosnan in general was blessed with great villains, even Graves was enjoyable.
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>>145059221
The bungee jump infiltration was a real stunt too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSvuHSqqGSw
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>>145058399
Based
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>>145057883
Die another day is the best bond film of all time
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>>145066227
Said no one ever.
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>that time Felix's wife was raped and murdered, and Felix was mailed by a shark
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>>145057883
I like it a lot because just the right amount of Bond silliness and doesn't overdo it, also I kinda agree about Tomorrow Never Dies.
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>>145057883
>Plot that makes 0 sense outside of the cold war
You just described every Bond film
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>>145059628
chopper booba
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>>145067230
>Felix was mailed by a shark

The worst part is that it was a chain mail.
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>>145060188
I think Quantum of Solace is first film where I noticed Bond actually appears drunk at one point.
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>>145067796
Yes.
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>>145066227
It's really not that bad. Much better than Craigs and some of moores
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>>145067796
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All of the Brosnan Bond movies were shit but this was the least shit because Sean Bean was a decent bad guy.

A big part of any Bond movie is the villain, if the villain sucks then the movie sucks.

Casino Royale was decent, Quantum of Solace was so terrible I couldn't tell you who the villain was, Skyfall was only good because of the Villain and Spectre was also terrible because the Villain sucked.
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Video game nostalgia. Tomorrow never dies is much better
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Brosnan had the potential to be the best Bond, I think he absolutely looks the part. He was just let down by mediocre films for the most part.
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I could never beat the last parts of Goldeneye on 007 mode, I think you ended up on catwalks high up in the air or something and that was about as far as I ever could get, tried for months and months hundreds of times.
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>>145057883
>Why do people swear up and down
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>>145070270
Cradle isn't even the hardest mission. Maybe you were trying to kill everything and didn't realize there were infinite reinforcements.
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>>145070069
I have never played the videogame but Goldeneye is one of my favourite Bond movies.
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>>145070169
Architect had bad luck with scripts and being Bond during the unfortunate Hollywood era of the late 90s and early 00s. They didn't know what to due with Bond now that the cold war was over and it's impressive that Goldeneye was so good. Tomorrow Never Dies was perfectly adequate but forgettable and frustrating because with a few minor tweaks and it would have been great. TWINE had some great moments but suffered pacing, issues and casting issues, even though Denise Richards is an ultra qt. Die Another Day was great schlock kino but a bad Bond movie.
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>>145070038
>Quantum of Solace was so terrible I couldn't tell you who the villain was
the audience was the villain; for questioning whether a lying spy woman was actually raped, noting there was no trial.
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>>145057883
He drives a tank through walls and streets
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>>145058091
That fucking rules. Is your mom down to fuck?
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>Hell Tommorow Never Dies is an infinitely better movie.

for the most part yes, but Teri Hatcher really drags it down. I understand thinking Goldeneye is better because it's less bad than TND, but it's also less good than TND
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>>145070468
yeah I looked up the levels it might have been egyptian I couldn't clear if that's the last level, I was thinking it was called pyramid



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