Going there for 3 weeks in March next year. What should I do? I plan to fly into Ho Chi Mihn City, rent a dual sport motorcycle, and ride my way up to Hanoi, do the Ha Giang Loop, then fly out from Hanoi. I'm not against cooming in Vietname poosi, but I'm not going to seek it out either. I'm mostly interested in exploring a relatively cheap country.Thread Theme Song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWijx_AgPiA
>>2568099this picture is fake
>>2568102>t. Seething Mutt or Chink mad the Vietnamese kicked their asses.
>>2568102It's clearly a model from a museum
>>2568119>>2568118fakes NEWS
>>2568099>I plan to fly into Ho Chi Mihn City, rent a dual sport motorcycle, and ride my way up to Hanoi, do the Ha Giang Loop,based
>>2568138Have you been to Vietnam before? If so, what do you recommend?
>>25680993 weeks to ride to hanoi? why bother rushing through the country like that?
>>2568151no just think anything involving getting a bike a fucking around at your own pace is based
>>2568157What would you recommend?>>2568184Gotcha.
>>2568099I’ve done Hanoi to HCMC and it’s a long-ass ride. Just the Ha Giang loop itself, along with Hanoi, should be a good week in itself to really get the most out of it. Might want to take it easy on an island and/or somewhere in the central highlands before doing the loop.
>>2568151eat yourself into a coma
>>2568099Vietnam is a wonderful destination. I love going there and have been many times. Sometimes I dress like in super poor and stand on the streets asking for donations to get home. I actually do get money. If I do it long enough it pays for my hotel stay. It's like a free vacation! I highly recommend this for long term travel if you don't have a remote job.
>>2568099go to japantown in district 1
>>2568099Try to go to Khe Bang national park and ride through there. Insane jungle in the neck of the dragon. Go to Ninh Binh. Khe Sanh road to Laos is a pretty interesting ride. See the weird temples in between it all. Spend some time with the monk children at said temples in the middle of nowhere. You’ll regret leaving so soon. If you find a nice girl that things feel right with try to spend more time with her and be as present as you can be as it’s all over before you know it.
>>2568619Ride more cautiously than you think is necessary through the small towns. God forbid you crash into a seventeen year old girl on her motorbike and have to spend six hours at the local police station figuring out if you’re going to a viet jail or if there’s an amount of bribe you and the family can agree on. Watch out for that big spider above the toilet in the police station rest room.
>>2568621The lesson is simple: don't crash
>>2568280My appetite will astound the Viets
>>2568102Isn't it an exhibit in a museum?
>>2568099>I'm not against cooming in Vietname poosi, but I'm not going to seek it out eitherGood, cause vietnamese girls don't like foreigners
Is the food good in Japan Town or is it just a tourist trap?
>>2568621>that tat>that monke faceI want to vomit.
>>2568985Vietnam isn't that great for cooming. Thailand, Philippines, India and Africa are much better.
>>2568985cap
>>2568099check a youtube vid for what motorcycle traffic looks like in urban vietnam. then cancel your little plan dude.
>>2568099>What should I do?ride scooter in shoulder to shoulder trafficeat riceget the most ridiculously flamboyant suit tailor made in less than 24hrs for $40eat more ricetake a boat ride on a rivergo see a ping pong showeat some more rice
>>2569156>get the most ridiculously flamboyant suit tailor made in less than 24hrs for $40TopGearmaxxingI've always wanted to fly to Vietnam and recreate that whole episode
>>2569030>IndiaCareful anon, the poojeet mod might see this
>>2568937its fake retard
>>2569156Vietnam doesn't have pingpong shows. I went to a ping pong show in pattaya and it was BORING as fuck
>>2568099You should get the fuck out of Saigon the moment you arrive. Stay a day if you're into to their history as it pertains to the Vietnam war but that city sucks. Then go to Dalat which is nice, good party hostels, and then go to the top beach place Nha Trang (This all makes sense via bus they're close) and that's all you need to do in the South. But then fly from Nha Trang to Da Nang and use that as a base to go to the main party destination Hoi An or Hue (I've never been to Hue though). I don't go North because I'm just not interested in the culture or motorbiking whatever. I go to Vietnam because it's cheap and there's hot young western girls running around who are totally DTF.
>>2569011Japan Town is based, it feels like a break from the third-world. >>2568151I rode an XR150 around the south of the country, your plan of riding all the way up and doing Ha Giang would be sick
It's over for white sexpats. Vietnam is getting harder to stay on a tourist visa. They're starting to deny visa renewals for expats doing infinite border runs. If you renew 3 or 4 visa 3-month renewal back to back, they'll start denying you.You used to stay on the business visa scam, 1 year visa but they cracked down on that.The new visa application page has too many questions. They gov doesn't want degen sexpats (english teachers) inside the country.
>>2569842They ask many questions on the new visa page, such as "how many times have you been in Vietnam in the past 01 year" (to prevent chronic border runs), "Intended expenses (in USD)" (keep poor begpackers out)The golden age of sexpat teachers is over. In addition they charge $25 - $50 for the visa. Bruh
>>2569843>now you get 90 day evisa for $25 without doing extensionsDepending on which passport you're holding. You can get 45 day visa on arrival for Thailand without filling a single form or paying $$$.If you apply for visas back to back (like 4 times in a row while doing border runs) they'll deny the application.
>>2569843>it's easier than ever, now you get 90 day evisa for $25 without doing extensions, visa approval letters or other crapThe golden run is over. Pre-COVID, you had smelly boer South Africans teaching english in Vietnam, doing infinite border runs. POST-COVID they have cracked down on english teachers. The TRC is hard to get. It was piss easy to stay in Vietnam indefinitely on a tourist visa. Nowadays? Hard.
>>2569843>wtf this is supposed to mean?Back in the day, you can keep applying for visas back-to-back when your 90 day is up, thus you can stay in Vietnam for years doing border runs. If you try this nowadays they'll start denying your visa application and put you on the black list. The government is tired of begpackers and sexpats. The blame the boers for this.
>>2569890Not him but I teach English here and one of my coworkers is a Boer desu. He's the only one here I've met.
>>2569896>>2569890Really nice pleasant guy btw.
>>2569848Just get a proper work visa. You only have to renew it every two years and your employer pays for it
>>2569890>In the 6 years I've been going to VietnamSexpat detected.
>>2570326But it's getting more difficult for the work visa. You used to go to Vietnam and teach on a 3-month tourist visa and go for border runs
>>2570344People have wisened up to sexpats. Viet Kieus are still treated like gold over there.
>>2569011The restaurants should be fine, avoid the bars and massage shops, those can be scammy
>it is incomprehensible to the virgin chang that people may want to visit vietnam not for cooming purposes
I plan to go to Vietnam for a few months to just live cheap and grind a remote work project I have coming up. Anywhere that has accommodation + desks + food in like one building? Idk like a wework with room and board and a buffet? I'm not looking to travel around or do much sightseeing, just grind work and live cheap.
>>2570463I don't get it. Why would chinese people care?
>>2569490>be mexican-australian>visit family in mexico>they are all short as shit>have flip friend >hes 6'1>he told me the same thingWhy is it like this?
>>2570516Idk i’m cambodian, i’m not even tall, i’m 5’11” but when I go back home it so easy to catch mires.
>>2570516Western diet has more protein thus leading to height growth. The chicken, meat and cheese you eat is full of growth hormones they fed to the animals
>>2570344I’ve been teaching here over a decade and never taught on one of those tourist visas. Border runs are just for those who are unqualified.
>>2569842Cope. I will never stop traveling to Vietnam, and cooming inside cuties.
>>2570505Just go out and buy some food, bring back to the hotel. Much easier than finding some special place. I recommend Sa pa for a comfy and serene place to sit and grind work.
>>2569320ESL?
Anybody know what the police background check for a work permit here actually entails?
>>2571274you need a notarised copy of your own countries criminal record check which lists any or none criminal history. most first world countries operate this system.
>>2568619>present as you can be as it’s all over before you know it.Very true. it's already been 6 years since i was riding around Phong nha national park with a beautiful French girl on the back of my bike. I blew it.
>>2568099Anyone in Da Nang? Doing a halloween party at The Trip 66
>>2568118> More than 3 million people, including over 58,000 Americans, were killed in the Vietnam War, and more than half of the dead were Vietnamese civilians>3,000,000 dead gooks>58,000 dead AmericansWho kicked whose ass?
>>2572600The Americans official goal, which completely failed, was to stop communism, not genocide uneducated farmers and children then run away. If the latter then yeah, the Americans really licked ass.
>>2572600How many of those 3mil were the American's south vietnamese allies?
>>2572600>20 years, superior weapons and a trillion dolalrs>still can't win against rice farmersThe cope from you people is pathetic
I'm planning to go from Vietnam to India. Getting bored of Vietland. Should I go? Anybody know what the cooming scene like there? I assume it's easier than Vietnam. Asking in this thread cause the jeetjanny.
I just used my awkward shitty Vietnamese to talk my way into bed with a girl who didn't speak a single word of English.
>all these coomersThe reason why you choose Vietnam as a cooming destination is because you got rejected by Japan and its beauties. You guys are such losers.
>>2576336Are you "proprio"?
>>2576450What's a "proprio"?
Anyone know of any cool gaming/tabletop/hobby stuff? Stores, museums, clubs etc
Anyone else ever bring their Viet girl on vacation to the US? Mine is coming with me for Christmas next month. Hasn’t been out of the country before, or really out of the central highlands for that matter, so I’m wondering how she’ll adjust visiting the states.
>>2576668Which city?
>>2576993Us whiteoids can live off another cultures food quite easily but Asians can't, she'll get homesick really quickly without asian food. My experiences were>Have fresh rice everyday in a rice cooker>Buy a big styrofoam box and insist that she has to fill it with asian food she wants like noodles, Chinese sausages, etc>Don't assume that the stuff in the west is the same as east, shit like fish sauce and onions sauce for example tastes completely different so make sure you put that in your box>She'll probably spend at least a few hours a day talking to her family back home, this is normal.>Try not to have too many stay at home days and always organize shit to do, even if she ends up hating half the things you chose.I've done this several times (not with a girl from the highlands) but if you have any questions. That's all that I can think of off the top of my head.
>>2576993>Anyone else ever bring their Viet girl on vacation to the US?What? How'd she get the visa? Was it expensive and time consuming?
>>2578041Pretty solid advice actually. The weather change is gonna be a shock too of course.>>2578060Filled out the form online, waited about a week for an interview at the consulate and that was about it. About $200 though :/
>>2577980hcmc
>>2568619what do you do when your motorbike breaks down in the middle of nowhere?That fear is the biggst reason I've never tried it
>>2578060I think it just depends on whether or not you, and the person, have a stable job and can show that you have a valid reason to return.
>>2568102>>2568937>>2569320I think it' da mannequin at Củ Chi Tunnels
How do you feel about cold weather in Vietnam?
>>2578426It's only in the north, and even then it isn't really that cold unless you're in the mountains
I’ve had more people try to scam me here than any other country in SEA1. Girl who tried to sell me a $100 a month phone plan, she said it was the “cheapest”2. Guy tried to sell me a simple lighter for $103. Taxi driver told me he didn’t have change. The trip costed 60k, I only had a 100k bill4. Taxi driver overcharged me on grab taxi, 54k trip turned into a 70k trip, I only found out when I checked my grab historyI know it’s only small amounts but this is 4 times, and I’ve only been here for 5 days
>>2578427And even then, it isn't that cold, its like northern california in the winter cold.
Guys idk who to turn to I need help.Okay I went out on a date with a girl in Vietnam. Really Nice date spoke good English, insisted on splitting the bill when we finished out meal, when I wanted to pay she snuck out and paid the entire thing, and I am getting strong vibes she's not a gold digger.Very sporty, martial arts champion, plays music.Literally perfect.Here's the thing she's 19 and below 160cm, I feel so uncomfortable, I mean she literally ticks so many boxes, but at the same time she is so much younger and looks young too, and doesnt have disposable income while I do while insisting to Split bills.So 1. I get anxious because she looks so young. 2. She gets paid so much less yet doesnt want to spend my money so my options of what I can do and where I can take her is extremely limited.Ohh and although she is legally an adult she just looks SO MUCH YOUNGER than me.Not posting any pictures but she looks young.
>>2579128I am 27. Forgot to mention. With a full beard so from a Vietnamese perspective I look 30. I look older than I am and she looks younger than she is. 8 years difference, but someone might assume 10+.I know this board is not meant for this exactly, but since I posted here a lot before going it came to mind.How negatively would this be seen by Vietnamese, if I were to continue going out and work through those issues I mentioned, should I just cut it off
>>2579128>>2579132if ur going to brag just brag faggot
>>2579132That's not a big age difference dude, when you're 35 she'll be 27.Younger woman relationships are also much more socially acceptable outside of the west where women usually earn less than men do and women are expected to find a man who takes care of them/their family.
>>2579033Are you in a very touristy spot or what?I'm white and don't speak a word of viet and didn't have anyone try to scam in a month I'm there.Literally had taxi drivers in the middle of the night being ultra fair and surprised I tipped well, had a prostitute telling me I actually gave enough when I thought it wasn't and looking for more money to give.Places like Italy were rough especially when you're stuck somewhere, and I don't even want to talk about Morocco which was a nightmare 24/7.>>2579128How did you meet ?
>>2579128>she is so much younger and looks young toostop dating 19 year old you freak. settle for strong women who are 30+ year old and above
>>2579300Its not1.Do I tell you all the small little clues.1. She showed up with very little make up.2. I wanted to meet up in district 1 in the party street, but she got lost on the way because she had never been there, so I had to pay a grab guy to help me pick her up because she couldnt find the place. I was at.3. She asked me if we could leave because it was too noisy, and she brought me to a very quiet Korean BBQ place in a quiet part of the city. She said her family used to go eat there when she was younger.4. I walked her home, she showed me where she practices martial arts, where she went to high school.5. She is begging me to find a different place outside of District1 somewhere safe because she says its full of gangsters there.6. I asked her if she would prefer to have a date where we go out and eat at a restaurant, and I pay for it or alternatively I offered her, that I will move my booking but only if she comes on a cooking date with me and I find an apartment with a working stove so she can teach me too cook, and she agreed to the former.Idk man I read people pretty well, I will dip any second any red flag for gold digger gets triggered.Ohh and the girl is a machine she ate more meat at the korean BBQ (the one she paid for in the end). She said its bulking season and she needs to get stronger and bigger to beat up girls with 60kgs. Which is just about the cutest thing I've seen a 48kg girl say.I am being genuine here, there is almost 0 shot she is a Fraud, but she looks so young and I know she is of age and her birthday, but when I started even thinking about this trip, she was technically still a minor... and that scares me.
>>2579538I dont want to hurt this girl, I will take it slow with her, and I wouldnt even think of sleeping with her on this trip, but I want to come back in April anyway.So idk I just feel so reassured about her, except the age and the looks.Guys she is so pretty, but she looks younger than she is.I will not lie emotionally she might be 20 or 21. Physically she might be 18-19 wont go into specifics to protect her anonimity, but she could definitely pass for 16-17.But yes I am very concerned what Ricels think, because they might lash out. And I literally told her this today, that I think the age thing scares me a bit, but I still like her, and I would just like to move slow and figure it out.
>>2579542Ohh and she doesnt drink soda or alcohol to stay fit for martial arts.
>>2579542>I wouldnt even think of sleeping with her on this tripBro come on.
>>2579280Like I genuinely like her.This is only the 2nd girl I have talked to in my life that will let me ramble about random stuff and listen with intent and actually back me up or counter me while staying engaged in the conversation.
>>2579545>counter meNever rude. She is extremely polite about it But she respectfully tells me she disagrees and tells me why she thinks I am wrong, but at the same time she ends up agreeing 90% of the time anyway.I dont know it just hurts, I am 27 and this is the first time Ive had a crush. I should have experienced when I was a teen. Thats what worries me, it doesnt feel normal. I should go on a date with a girl who is more jaded, because I honestly dont think I deserve someone so young and optimistic.I had never felt so much motivation to do something.
>>2579547>A shit ton of ex-military oldfags in their 50s around here have a 20 something freshI am also insecure that people might think thats what this is, theres no language barrier. I am not a native English speaker, she isnt as fluent as I am, but actually not that far from how my English skills were at her age.And she really genuinely tried to learn a few phrases in my native on our first date, I am having fun, but then I looka at her and realize ppl might think shes younger than she is, she is VERY pretty, but not Hot because she is so young looking, but I feel like she will age into that, but even saying that makes me feel bad.The thoughts that go through my head are; I cant show photos of her to my family and talk about her because when they see a photo they might assume she is 16, so I would need to date her in secret for 2 years before even showing a photo of her to anyone so she gets older looking
>>2579550Why do you care what they think? Also she won't get older looking. Asians look 16 until they turn 50 and then they turn into grey haired grandmas overnight.
I am genuinely sorry for blogposting, but I cant talk about this to the people I know.
>>2579552She will, I know asians stay young looking but not like this. She will definitely look at least passibly older to at least pass the "is she a minor test" in a year or two. She smiles a lot and has huge dimples, those are going to turn into smiling lines for example
>>2579556If you don't fuck her like your life depends on it she's going to realize you're an insecure loser and ghost you.She's not stupid and probably knows she's pretty hot but probably is westernized enough to dislike asian men, especially working class asian men who are honestly pretty trashy, and asian dating norms in general. Fuck her or she's going to move on the next farang.
>>2579128>SO MUCH YOUNGERDude you talk like you are a 67 year old white-haired grandpa robbing the cradle. Just chill, 18 and 27 is perfectly natural and traditional. If you are a good person and treat older members of her family with respect, I'm sure they will accept you. Of course guys in the street will be cracking jokes about your appearance, or what may or may not be going on in your bedroom. It's all harmless fun, not hostility or hatred. Go out drinking sometime, make a few friends, let it be known that you are a cool guy who is going to be sticking around, so everyone might as well be your friend.>>2579548You really need to cut off the self-sabotaging thought patterns ASAP. The toxicity is what will seep out and damage your relationship. >>2579691I seriously doubt this would happen after he meets her family and all.>>2579699There are a lot of guys with no partners in SEA. Most of them aren't "seething" or bitter, they still have their optimism.
>>2572600Majority of the Viet casualties were from air raids, not from oh-so-mighty American GIs kicking Vietcong ass in hand-to-hand combat.
>>2579299>keep small notes with youBeing able to make exact payments when required is a good idea in any cash-dominant society. I usually break my large bills at a bank after making an ATM withdrawal, after having had plenty of difficulties in the past getting change for them at businesses - even convenience stores and supermarkets often balk at making change.Anons who have traveled to Vietnam, what percentage of Vietnamese have basic English fluency?
>>2579547>"Ricels" are butthurt that you're dating "their" raceCringe take. The natives are fucking like crazy because there are so many lithe, gorgeous women in SEA, as seen by their population size. It is the sexpat tourist who must go around the world to find a lover who is perpetually enraged.
>>2579743I'm very touristic places and hotels maybe 50% know the basics in order to do their job.Outside of this they know maybe 5 words.
>>2579743A lot more than in Korea or Japan.
ill be back sooncant wait for all the delicious fucking food and cheap almost legit passable clothing and no i dont buy it from those shitty marketsone place the burberry polos can be sold on stockx lol. but i dont like the name branded stuff its just good quality at a fraction of the priceanother nice thing is all the accessible food from other asian countries. salivating at the thought of the next taste of toyosu tuna.
Is it enough to visit Ninh Binh for a day trip from Hanoi, or should I stay there for 48 hours?
In HCM city rn only to realise the middle is experiencing flood . That was going to be my main destination. Any suggestions? got two weeks in vietnam
>>2580193do what locals do and deal with it, wade through it
Name some good food to try that isn't banh mi or pho.
>>2580600Banh Pho
>>2580600Bun Thit Nuong Cha Gio with the spring rolls as wellif youre in hcmc take your pick https://manmoi.vn/menu
Guys I've been loving HCM just walking around for days going on a few dates.I dont like the Tours they are so fake and artificial, but I dont wanna be in HCM for my entire trip, been here for 6 days now just walking around not getting bored. 8 days left.I dont wanna take a lot of trips to random turist spots across south Vietnam because I hate that crap.Whats an interesting place to enjoy to just walk around in that I could visit.I cant write a scooter so, keep that in mind, if I had one I would just drive off in a direction til I found something cool
>>2580600Not really Vietnamese but nothing beats beef offal hotpot and a dozen beers somewhere comfy at night.
>>2573608>japan and its beautieskeep daydreaming in anime, weeb faggotevery fifth woman in japan has partaken in some sort of pornographythey have terrible, assymetric faces with messed up jaws and teethand they have a fake squeeling voice and fake 'cuteness' only søy faggots like you fall for
>>2576602it's like "dealio"
>>2579128>my girl isn't a debt ridden, masculine, cellulite hag with a feminism degree... I can't bang her, she' a... LITERAL CHILD!!!!1!the amerigolem, everyone
>>2580749Can't you just take the train to random places and see a bit more of the country?
>>2573608Actually the world is just way too globalized now. Japan, Korea, Taiwan. If you're not attractive then first world countries don't work anymore regardless of foreignness. Thus, the third world where your status is that you have wealth, and wealth is objectively attractive.
My impression of vietnam is that it's great for food and coffee etc, but there's very little to actually do.
>>2581004Your reading comprehension is terrible, you fucking retard.
What is /Vietnam/ drinking these days? There are a tonne of new domestic brews out I'm yet to try.
>>2581186Cope harder
>>2580940>>2580749I do that and enjoy it a lot.Some places are a bit rough but it's still enjoyable and make good memories.Look on google maps some 20-50k city that's accessible by train and has a few hotels. In 20 minutes max you'll find one.Be ready to be approached by many people and have kids look at you like you're an alien.
>>2581215lipovatan tongkat ali energy and tiger soju>>2580749d2 above the highway if you need somewhere "quiet" for vietnamese standardsThái Văn Lung walk those those half open gates is a nice eye opener if youre a pretty white boy at night, just walk up and down all the alleys after around 8/9pm lmaothe area around 21 Nguyễn Công Trứ, Phường 19, Bình Thạnh, Thành phố Hồ Chí Minh 700000, Vietnam (a decent cheap sushi place) is becoming a nice newer less seedy jap areareally depends what youre into, you really can find anything in the cityjust search for the city name and the viet words for whatever you want on ticktok, facebook (with google) and instagram>>2581377yeah i really enjoyed huethe drive from there to da nang is fucking beautiful, bonus points if you go through the nicer villages. you have to get a private tour or do it yourself.theres shit tons cheap of hidden beach restaurants
>>2579963Lots to see and do in Ninh Binh, especially if you have a motorcycle. If you do, 3 days would be better
>>2580977guys, should we tell him?
>>2568099Im currently in Vietnam for a couple months, and not expecting to spend it without the company of women. I’m wondering if it is not out of the ordinary to approach girls in coffee shops and public transport etc. if not socially acceptable, what would be the most effective way to be around local girls - ideally excluding night clubs.
>>2581736>Im currently in Vietnam for a couple monthsWhat you doing there?
>>2581765Smoking cheap cigarettes and playing pool
>>2581774livin the life, anon
>>2581836Pretty dialled, although would be better with a bitch on my side
>>2581899thx 4 da qrd
>>2581186Are you sure it's just not how they look when they are outside. My family visited my girlfriend and I in VN and they were terrified at how unhappy and unapproachable I looked when we ate out considering I'm always happy at home. I never really noticed that over the years I adopted the "Look angry when you are outside with your s/o" from other Vietnamese men without noticing,
>>2568102It's real
>>2568099Thread would be better if you asked, what should I watch out for?Bye dweeb
>>2581607tell what, it's true, and don't say cooming, you can do that anywhere
Flying into Da Nang and taking the train from Hue to Hanoi. I have 6 nights to split on Da Nang, Hoi An, and Hue. How many nights should I spend in each?
>>2582330I can't understand this train to hanoi meme. you can fly from hue or da nang to hanoi.
>>2582318*trying not to laugh*guys, let's not tell him*slight smirk, regain control, straight face*
>>2568099Mui ne and da lat
>>2582337It has soul, it saves you a night of accomodation, and I'm also stopping in Binh Dinh on the way north.
are there any foreigners operating tourism business?
>>2569156this guy gets it
>>2583054They exist but barely rank above begpackers in terms of quality and honesty. Don't try being one and don't bother giving them any money.
>>2583614why not? for example, i know a guy who does boat tours in thailand, owns 2 small boats, living life real well, does not want to return. something tourism related targeting foreigners could be done in 'nam, no? plus a white doing it would seem more trustworthy
>>2568099I am staying in da nang for 3 days before going back to hanoi. I am thinking about visiting hoi an, can I get a grab to there and back or I should look for an another transport?
>>2583619Thailand is different, you can make an honest living doing that sort of thing because the tourists are there and it's easy to own and run a business. The only way to make money in VN would be more or less scamming people while paying bribes left right and centre to keep it in operation.
>>2568099Just do it. The motorbike is the way to go. It's easy to find other people doing a similar thing at the chiller non party hostels as well to make little day trips. It's way safer getting through traffic than you'd imagine too.
>>2580904cope and seetheJapan is superiorfilthy betonamu
>>2584064damn, that demoralized me to heck... not sure what do
>>2584255Don't listen to that retard, he's probably just a salty lifer. It's not easy like Thailand but it's doable, no idea what he's ranting about because I've met plenty of honest guys who are making a fair bit.... there are shady people like he explained but the are exclusively in places like Bui Vien where they can rip off people with no knowledge, if you want to do it just go for it.
>>2584264alright, thanks man
How is the cooming scene in Vietnam? Mainly just want massage and HE rather then FS.
>>2584545There's a whole forum called internationalsexguide for this stuff. Go ask questions there instead of summoning the coomers to sabotage another thread.
>>2572600they hate this post because they know its truevietnam is now capitalist and produces cheap clothes and beer for americhads and auschadsthey lost millions of lives and millions still suffer to today of agent orange poisoning, no amouny of seething will change facts