What I want to know is mostly these:> How much did it cost?> How long did you stay there for?> How much Japanese did you know?> What was the most expensive part of your trip (besides plane ticket)? And the cheapest?> How many towns did you visit?> Did you enjoy it?Bonus question: in hindsight, now that you've been there, what are some things you discovered that would've helped you save some money during your trip?
I don't think anybody on this board has ever been to Japan, especially not the people in the Japan general.
>>2456045Damn... I'm running out of places to ask...
>>2456029> How much did it cost?Depends, closer you are the cheaper the ticket. I stayed in a variety of hotels or hostels, I lived there for a while too. Activities are not expensive, you can eat cheaply if you find the right restaurants and eat at convenience stores. > How long did you stay there for?Each trip a few days, and lived for a year> How much Japanese did you know?A lot but I was better at speaking than reading so I still needed help with some things. They don't know English there and this also makes people nicer to you if you can understand them. > What was the most expensive part of your trip (besides plane ticket)? And the cheapest?The trains, and a night out at an izakaya although I was often treated to that. Cheapest everything at the convenience store which I ate from often, there is ready to eat meals, ramen, snacks > How many towns did you visit?I've been all over, the best trips are going into a random town outside of the city where it's quiet and beautiful > Did you enjoy it?Of course, I keep going back whenever I can
>>2456050Alright, can you tell me how off I am from my current predictions?Japan trip, current plans:High Budget trip - 32~ days- Visa, 45$- Plane tickets, 1300$ (Brazil)- Food, 1000$- Hotels, 1200$- Travel, 400$- Souvenir, 1000$ (how expensive are souvenirs there?)Total - 5000$, realistically 6000$ for safety net.Low budget trip - 32~ days- Visa, 45$- Plane tickets, 1300$- Food, 220$- Hotels, 620$ (Might not be possible, source was using a tent)- Travel, walking potentially free, but come on now. Maybe hitchhicking? - Souvenir, 200$Total - 2200$, realistically 3000$
i lived in Fukuoka for a year back in 2006. honestly it was the best year of my life. the yen was about 120 something to the dollar so it was actually pretty cheap for me in terms of food and sundry items. my apartment was small as shit, basically the size of a US hotel room but costs the same as a 1 bedroom in the states.i didn't know much japanese when i got there but the immersion learning thing is real, i'm convinced you have to be willfully retarded to not pick up the local language, once you know a few hundred words/phrases your learning just snowballs. i was able to have conversations with people by month 6. the apartment was the most expensive thing, really, but thats the same everywhere i think. i went to tokyo a couple times. nagasaki, sasebo, hiroshima. i fucking loved it as a 24 year old white guy. ive been back a few times since then but early 2000's japan just had a different vibe, can't explain it. driving around japanese streets at night in my govvy vehicle, swimming at ryutosen falls, izakaya hopping, nomihoudai at the crazy cock till 3am. and the women man.... the women. i'm no chad but i'm decent looking and fairly tall and i had pussy falling out of my pockets over there. it was nuts getting picked up off the street and taken back to a love hotel by some rando jap girl without ever getting her name. i had a new japanese girlfriend every month. i ended up being some 33 year old married japanese womans fuck boy for a few months. i quite literally burnt myself out on asian women while i was there.
>>2456029I went when I was a kid. I'll go again as soon as I can
>>2456055>- Visa, 45$if you're from any civilized country there are no visa fees
>>2456109Be aware that "no visa fee" doesn't mean that you won't have to pay something for your visa, e.g. "application fee", "stamp fee", "rush fee", "fee fee", etc.What you are looking for is "visa-free", i.e. being able to enter with just your passport.>Tajikistan, Uzbekistan and others in EuropeHonorary Americans
>>2456109For some reason Brazil has to pay Visa while Argentina doesn't. So yeah, I have to pay unfortunately
>>2456059cool story bro
>>2456029> How much did it cost?I paid $800 USD per direction for my flight, I stayed at 3-4 star hotels, Karaksa, APA, and Richmond hotel. Average cost per night was $80-100USD per night. For general spending like on food, drink, bus and train ticket. Total approx $1200 USD. > How long did you stay there for?about a week> How much Japanese did you know?Very little. I only know basic words and phrases.> What was the most expensive part of your trip (besides plane ticket)? And the cheapest?shinkansen 1st class ticket. some electronics and shoes I bought, also souvenirs from don quiote.food and drink was cheap > How many towns did you visit?Osaka, Kyoto, Nara, Tokyo> Did you enjoy it?Im thinking about going back next year or soon
>>2456059wtf is it with larping and reddit spacing?
>>2456198dude asked a series of questions and i broke out my responses accordingly. you want bullet point format or what asshole?
>>2456197You visited 4 towns in one week? Also, that's a lot of money for one week alone. Guess you weren't holding back huh?
>>2456198Larpers can't just help themselves. Reddit and larping go hand in hand after all.
>>2456059The dollar to yen is 136 right now, so it's not really changed all that much.
>>2456256What's the point of this?
>>2456206>>2456206Yes, on paper it might’ve seemed rushed. But I thoroughly enjoyed my pacing.Honestly I only did 1 day of Kyoto but I feel I needed 3-4 to explore it fully.I did Osaka in 2-3 days. Going around umeda and namba area alone is insane, too much stuff. I left plenty on the table. Osaka could be done in 4 days to a weekNara can be done in 1 day Which is what I’ve done.Only had time for 2 days in Tokyo. But obviously one could stay weeks in Tokyo I’ve been saving up and collected bit of disposable income. I probably wouldn’t spend so much on the next trip. As after doing a number crunch. I went over by a lot
>>2456284Damn, I wonder if me planning on staying for 1-2 months is too much then.
>>2456289If your a huge weeb, 2 months could go by quickly. But yeah, I notice some trv guys who went to Japan for months start feeling bored by the 2-3 week mark. Cause like after the initial culture shock and “wow I’m in Japan” wears off, not knowing the language or understanding the culture really starts to irk them I’d just hop on a plane after 2 weeks and go visit another Asian country it’s only couple hour flight away
>>2456293Realistically I'm only going to be able to travel to another country once every 3-5 years. I'm also currently learning Japanese, so when my trip comes (,in 3 years) I won't struggle too much, hopefully. I went to Europe for two months, and I was walking the same streets, entering the same shops, eating the same food and still finding it way more fun than my own country. So idk about getting bored. Especially since Japan is so connected (and quite small)
>>2456029>Have you ever been to Japan? Tell me about it. yes. i worked there for a while>> How much did it cost?i can't remember. i wasn't paying anyway>> How long did you stay there for?a few months in total>> How much Japanese did you know?about four words>> What was the most expensive part of your trip (besides plane ticket)? And the cheapest?probably hiring the interpreters for work. there are plenty of free things to do>> How many towns did you visit?maybe 3 or 4>> Did you enjoy it?yeah it was cool except the food. i hate japanese food. it all tastes of fucking seaweed
>>2456029> How much did it cost?Don't know, I never really look at the money on vacation. I know what I can't afford and just buy everything else if I want it.> How long did you stay there for?3 weeks> How much Japanese did you know?very little, maybe N4? also made me realize that talking is way harder than reading and listening> What was the most expensive part of your trip (besides plane ticket)? And the cheapest?love hotel + company. Everything that was free.> How many towns did you visit?If you count day trips probably around 8> Did you enjoy it?Yes.>Bonus question: in hindsight, now that you've been there, what are some things you discovered that would've helped you save some money during your trip?If you can handle it capsule hotels were insane value. We didn't really spend any time other than sleeping in our rooms anyways so spending more money on that felt like a waste and we stopped in the last week.
I don't think he's larping. I was picked up by random Japanese women late at night when I lived in the city also. They were already drunk from partying and saw me there dressed up and would just try to take me with them.My rule is after 12am I will follow a woman if she tries to take me or invite me somewhere. They wanted love hotel and casual sex. Sex with drunk girls is usually not very good, but Japanese women are much more cute when they are wasted than others, for whatever reason.This happened a couple times a month. Not a reliable way to hook up, but random and memorable. The most memorable occasion was going with a small group of women. I thought they were taking me somewhere to drink, but we all went to a hotel together. 3 of them and me. We never communicated effectively at all. Just nod and laugh and smile, and then oh...ok. They must have been very good friends.
This was 10 years ago btw. I was quite good looking back then and in the 'zone'. Don't expect anything like this to happen unless you are fashionable and actually decent looking. You will not be approached if you look out of place fashion wise and are slovenly.
i've been to japan twice> How much did it cost?2k EUR and 4k EURhowever, this is mostly because i bought dumb shit in akihabara> How long did you stay there for?2 weeks each> How much Japanese did you know?zilchyou dont need any japanese at all to communicate with japaneseyou also dont need any englishjust use your hand and feet, works every time> What was the most expensive part of your trip (besides plane ticket)? And the cheapest?the rail passif you also want to exclude that, a hot springs innhard to say whats the cheapest, the food is piss cheap and really good> How many towns did you visit?4, osaka, kyoto, fujikawaguchiko, tokyo4, tokyo, osaka, fukuoka, nagasaki> Did you enjoy it?yeah, japan is great tons of shit to see and a lot of variety, every place you go feels very different from any other place you go tothe mountains are great, the rural areas are great, the urban hell of tokyo is great, the beaches are great, etccurrently prepping for a 3rd trip>>2456055i think your food expenses are probably set too higheven if you eat a lot, food is very cheapalso, your hotel budget seems high, you can usually get good accomodation for around 20EUR per nightyour travel expenses seem correct on the high estimate, i would absolutely buy a rail pass, it saves a lot, if you dont speak nip, dont bother with buses, try using trains, trams and subway as much as possible
>>2456029> How much did it cost?$1200, PRG - HND RT tickets included. Keep in mind that's for 2016 though, doubt you could go that low nowadays.> How long did you stay there for?4 weeks> How much Japanese did you know?Konnichiwa moshi moshi nakadashi~> What was the most expensive part of your trip (besides plane ticket)? And the cheapest?Transportation I think. I skipped JR Pass and used highway buses + private railway passes instead which was considerably cheaper, but it still was a massive chunk of the budget. Eating on the budget was much easier than I expected.> How many towns did you visit?Tokyo, Kamakura, Nikko, Osaka, Himeji, Koyasan, Kyoto, Nara, Ikaruga, Kobe, Ise, Iga, Nagoya, Hiroshima> Did you enjoy it?Very much so
>>2456336> FoodWhile many countries pride themselves on being as well seasoned as possible, Japan prides themselves in doing the opposite, at least so I've heard >>2456380> MoneyI guess if you don't to keep doing conversions in your head it's easier to not be counting every penny you spend> Capsule hotelsI'm getting mixed readings on those. They seem to be 25$ to use, which is about the same as a cheap hotel, right? Do is it really worth it? I might end up sleeping in those cafe cubicles desu because I know sleeping costs are the ones that add up the fastest annoyingly enough.>>2456386I don't care about hooking up, I want to see another country lol>>2456478> Rail passAre there any worth it alternatives to the rail pass? It seems to last for only 21 days and costs a pretty penny, but I'd definitely be going from town to town all the time.> FoodI really don't have an issue with eating cheap kombini food for most of my stay, only occasionally trying out Japanese food. How cheap can kombini food get? What would a day's budget on that roughly look like?
>>2456496>>2456492 here>They seem to be 25$ to use, which is about the same as a cheap hotel, right? Do is it really worth it? It's not. There's some "capsule" hotels which are just plywood boxes and not the fancy plastic hybernation chambers, they are often the price of a hostel but offer much more privacy.The cheapest hotels you'll find are in Nishinari, Osaka, which is coincidentally a great base for Kansai. Literally SEA tier prices. However, these are glorified homeless shelters with a tourist side hustle. Check AirBnB for any better lodging in the area, property values and consequently prices are low because the district is an absolute shithole (by Japanese standards, so nothing extraordinary really. It's just run down and has bums, it's no favela). Remember that metro in Osaka is stupidly expensive though, account for that in your hotel choice.>Are there any worth it alternatives to the rail pass?Highway buses are a third of the price of the Shinkansen, so that's your main way of moving large distances without the JR Pass. Go overnight and save yourself a hotel bill. Book online in advance because they do fill up.If you do that, you don't really need the pass anymore - it's not worth it for short trips and can be easily substituted with the various passes of private railway companies. Look into Kansai Thru Pass and Kintentsu Pass. There's a ton of various schemes on offer, they're usually cheaper than JR, valid for a few days and can cover places the national railway does not (eg. Koyasan), but have some major network gaps in return. Plan out your itinerary around them and you can save a pretty penny.>How cheap can kombini food get?I remember it roughly being the price of a bowl of gyudon, which was about 300, 350 yen? Might have went up a bit over the years. Street stall food was usually 500 yen, if there were any. Onigiri and baozi (or whatever they call these in Japanese) were a hundred or so.
> How much did it cost?No idea, I don't count money on vacation. I think I had about 2100 eur set aside for a 2 week vacation once, and then 1500 eur on an 9 day trip. Last time I was there I had 500 eur set aside on a 4 day visit. I never spent the whole amount, this was just what I had put aside on my Japan account as a maximum spending amount after plane tickets.> How long did you stay there for?3 weeks> How much Japanese did you know?None whatsoever. My friend whom I went with can read one of the Japanese scripts, the phonetical one. I understand many of the characters that are the same as Chinese. The only real use of it was that we felt confident when taking the buses that had no Arabic numbers. We did use translator apps for menus etc.> What was the most expensive part of your trip (besides plane ticket)? And the cheapest?I like paper and pens. I spent most of the money on pens and ink.Cheapest were the Family Mart breakfasts we did.> How many towns did you visit?4 on the longest trip, 2 on the shortest.> Did you enjoy it?Yeah, but Japan will never be my favorite place as a tourist. I like the nature and shopping, but that's about it.>Bonus question: in hindsight, now that you've been there, what are some things you discovered that would've helped you save some money during your trip?I already travel pretty frugal anyway (when it comes to accomodation and food) so saving any more on accommodation would mean couchsurfing. I learned during other trips that I should just forget the existence of booking.com and use whatever sites the locals use. Or I use some online map to find accomodation and book through their website directly.I did realize that it's more comfortable just mailing my goods back home instead of flying back with it as luggage. The post people do roll their eyes when they realize the sender address is a hotel address, but they just roll with it regardless.
>>2456248Of all the things in his post, THAT'S the one you took issue with?
>>2456638I mean I can't verify if he really did those things or nit, but I can verify the price of the yen
>>2456029>How much did it cost?I spent about $7000 CAD in 50 days not including the planet ticket, but I'm pretty inept with money and rented a few vehicles in addition to buying no passes for any of the trains and buses I took, though I reckon that didn't inflate costs much if at all. Had to pay a lot more on average for accommodation and some transportation due to winging the whole thing. If you go to Japan you really have to plan it all out or resign yourself to staying in a limited area or go really slow.>How much Japanese did you know?Enough to get some "Nihongo jouzu" but I'm doing some N5 questions now and struggling to get them done at a snail's pace. Having rudimentary ability facilitates some things but isn't necessary. I was also very surprised how it's easy to learn more with all the right context around to immediately start using it.>What was the most expensive part of your trip (besides plane ticket)? And the cheapest?Accomodation, which can skyrocket suddenly and really hurt procrastinators. Cheapest is city transportation.>How many towns did you visit?Maybe up to 20, including cities.> Did you enjoy it?No, because I didn't make plans and struggled every day to come up with one. This works fine in other countries, but not Japan I found. I also had very little meaningful interaction with the Japanese due to poor social skill. I am missing it already though and would rather be there than here now.
>>2456863What do you mean with the stuff about planning? You didn't know where you wanted to go next and that stressed you or something?
>>2456873You should have some rough itinerary worked out before going so you can book accommodation and activities in the busiest places and save a lot of money and pressure to decide on a direction. I literally just started in Tokyo with the idea I would slowly head southwest and a vague goal that I might make it as far as Okinawa (I did). The first weekend I was there prices doubled and tripled for accommodation in multiple cities I was planning to go and I had to bite some expensive stays. A lot of the time I was going around discovering things that seemed interesting and immediately finding out I couldn't do it because of bookings, cost, time, distance, season, etc. Car rentals in particular need to be booked ahead of time, I managed a few by luck, but compromises always had to be made and it was usually $100 per day or more. It's also very hard to buy basic shit when you run out or need something for a special activity, you won't know where to buy anything and have to spend time researching and bouncing around places to make ends meet. I would make sure your luggage holds everything you need to accomplish what you want to in the country.
>>2456879The whole thing about booking all the hotels in advance sounds like a massive pain. I'm more of a free bird, going wherever I feel like in the day. I'm probably going during spring so things are going to be hella booked too... Getting a tent and just saying fuck it sounds more appealing by the second, but at the same time, I'm aware that both approaches will have their own difficulties...I'll probably spend 3-4~ days in each town, going from city to city, seeing the best they offer and moving on. With that I should be be able to vist at least 10 towns in my stay there.
>>2456898Camp sites are generally the same price as hostels or more I think. Stealth camping seems possible, a lot of the country is very sleepy and they don't pay much attention to you, however I saw a lot of bugs over there and would hate to have to tolerate that just to find somewhere out of sight in the bushes, it's nasty shit too that can poison or infect you. If you want to be truly free you should consider renting a car, Japan has a great car camping culture and you can see them doing it everywhere in compact vans once you hit the road. They have road stations (michi no eki) where you're allowed to park and sleep for free, and I also had no problems just parking in random pull offs in the mountains and spending the night there. Even from the most remote spots you can usually get yourself to a road station in an hour or so. The ubiquity of drink machines also means you'll have easy access to some coffee, water and tea in the morning. The biggest hurdle to this is that you can't pick your exact car when you reserve it, you can only choose from classes. So you might show up and the vehicle they provide doesn't have flat folding seats in the back, which is a bitch to sleep in. I had some luck though by telling the rental people that's what I wanted on the day, and they seemed to have no problem with the idea I would be sleeping in their compact car.
>>2456496yeah rail pass isnt cheap, but its very worth it, i havent tried the highway bus network of japan like the other anon suggested, but i dont think they are interconnectedthe rail pass saves you A LOT of headaches, also it includes like half of tokyo since that is run by JRon food, i think we misunderstood each other here, what im saying is that ALL japanese food is piss cheap, even if you eat like a king every day your budget is too highkonbini food might even run you higher per calorie than going into a cheap ramen place
>>2456045I'm here right now lol>>2456055>CostI planned $6k for 60 days and it's just about perfect, you'll be fine.>Length60 days, I leave June 1>JapaneseBasics, but I've learned a lot so far.You definitely don't need beyond basics, but it also will make your trip 100x better.Bring offline Google translate, people are incredibly polite and really don't mind using that.>Most expensive/leastAccommodation.I don't really buy gifts/electronics/souvenirs, but that could be another big chunk.Food is really cheap (compared to US).You honestly won't even save that much going to konbinis, just go all out and try a bunch of different restaurants.>Towns visitedEvery major city from Nagasaki to Sapporo with lots of side trips in between>Enjoy?Best country on Earth, first (of 22) countries I've been to that I know I want to come back to.Btw I remember you from the Japan General, hope it goes well for you. :)
>>2456055Oh also, no shit, you will meet a lot of Brazillians in major cities
>>2457052im planning a 2 month trip aswell. what towns are really worth visiting?
>>2457098Hagi is pretty based.
>be me>not skelly but kinda twink mode>go to japan because I want to lose my v card as no luck in the US>find someone so far out of my league I think it could be a scammer>near JAV level of breasts and booty literally mommy gf>go over to her place after getting lost a billion times in shinjuku station>hope this isn't majima-san>she's obviously not enjoying it but I cum either way>asks me if we want to try something else for a better time>hell yeah.mp3>goes away for a few minutes>shitting myself if I was good or not trying to think >comes out with some small skimpy shrine maiden outfit>fuck yes>tells me to put it on>wat but okay >takes a bunch of photos of me doing things>says she will be back and that I should lay on the bed>ohboyherewego.png>expecting for some cool kinky shit>she comes back with lube and a dildo along with other toys>boy I sure hope those are for her>asks me to bend over and stick my ass up>hol up>scared shitless so I just do it>goes full dommy mommy mode on me>cum the hardest I've ever in my entire lifethanks /trv/... I think you all made me gay
oh fuck why can't I delete the post I just meant it to get off my chest and delete but my pc froze. fucking shit
>>2457249How'd you manage to make this happen anon, asking for a friendTinder, other dating apps, did you meet her irl?
>>2456059This is a larp r-right bros? I've been in a medium size japanese city for a month and I literally haven't interacted with any womenI'm not even that ugly either
>>2457476its not a larp. i was a gs-11 working for the navy as an engineer. i had a real job that made decent money and wasn't some ALT bum living hand to mouth. my office was in Sasebo but i ate the commute because i had zero desire to live around military fags and sasebo is boring as shit. it sounds like a larp because you guys all think college is a jewish scam and can't imagine what life is like for someone with a credential and a little bit of motivation.
Hey, what is a good district to stay in Tokyo at the end of Japan trip for 3 nights?
>>2456112maybe it's left over from when they were in the ussr idk
>>2457475It happened in his dreams.
I'm here and just got a fucking cold, and I'm going to USJ tomorrow. Someone just kill me.
>>2457938Grab those vitamin and mineral jelly drinks from the conbini. That shit legit helps. Just have one of each every morning or evening.
>>2457488I find it hard to believe you were a civilian GS-11 and only were in Japan for a year on top of a train commute being roughly 2 hours or an hour and 45 minutes by car. But whatever that is the least suspect part of you story lol
>>2456496>I guess if you don't to keep doing conversions in your head it's easier to not be counting every penny you spendThat was when 100:1 was a good approximation so I automatically did the conversions. I just didn't add them up over the days
Do you guys have any countryside places recommendation in japan ? Whether it's for hiking, temples/shrines, cute coastal village, whatever.I wanted to make a thread but there is already a lot of japan related thread. Maybe i'll open a thread later.
>>2458014Hokkaido as a whole>good climate>beautiful countrysides>nice cities, not too crowded, not too small>fairly flat to drive/cycle>many national parks>not many people go here>cheap>friendly people with pilgrimage mindsetHonourable mention would be tail end on honshu along the upper coast and Shikoku island
>>2458014i've mentioned it before but Ryutosen Falls. it's a series of cascading waterfalls each with their own little swimming hole. there's a rope swing on one of them and a little noodle shop right nearby for lunch. you can chance diving off the cliff of the highest fall but some people have died doing it. theres also a cool little go-kart track down at the base of the mountain you have to drive up.
Just got back from Yakushima, seems like typical overrated tourist trap to me.>forest is cool but not as beautiful in pictures>accommodations beside the most luxurious options are all dirty and rundown. Lacking basic amenities. >expensive>everything is so far apart you absolutely need a car>ferry, bus information are dubious. They can stop service without notice.Overall the nature is nice but not that remarkable and not worth the trouble of getting there, you can probably find most of what this island offers in the mainland
I have a metro pass valid until midnight. If anyone wants it, let me know. I'll leave it somewhere.
>>2458024What are some places like this around Tokyo which can be done on a day trip and is also easily accessible?>river, lake, waterfall>allows bbq, swimming>no permits>entrance fees are okI hiked up Mitake once and along the way I saw people kayaking up and down the river during the last few weeks of winter. In one area I also saw what seemed like a private/paid fishing area where you can catch and cook what looked like farmed trout.I imagine all along that gorge where the Ōme Line runs are all good to go?It won't be until around September when I get my own bike, at which point I'm just gonna drive around Mt. Fuji and be all yuru camp.
I spent 10'800$ total for 6 months including everything.Won't elaborate further but did le real traveler shit in shikoku and kyushu with gf to share the costs so you certainly will be far above.
>>245828711k in 6 months is pretty low though.
>>2456496>Are there any worth it alternatives to the rail pass?Yes. Buying the tickets individually. Only using Shinkansen when you actually need Shinkansen.Eg. I see people go from Osaka to Kyoto and back on Shinkansen... For what?
>>2458648i'm pretty sure if you do tokyo -> osaka -> kyoto -> osaka -> tokyo for example, the 1week JR pass is already worth. JR pass is expansive but so are individual train tickets to be fair
So how does the JP railpass work? Does it include all in-city and city to city transportation, such as buses, trains, bullet trains and trams, with the exception of planes and taxis? Because as someone who wants to travel to many cities and might be carrying my luggage with me at all times, I think it might be worth it.
>>2458768JR passhttps://www.japan-guide.com/railpass/ (calculator to figure out if it's worth it)It only covers JR lines/services such as JR trains, shinkansens, some ferries.
>>2458768It covers what it says on the tin - Japan Railways trains (with the rare ferry and bus). Most in-city transport is serviced by different companies, be it private or municipal, and will not be covered, with a few noteworthy exceptions (eg. the extremely useful Yamanote loop in Tokyo).
>>2458768If you're moving from city to city with a day or two in each place it's worth it. If you have a stop with several days then you start to time the pass around stops like that so it's not active when you're sitting still.
>>2456029> How much did it cost?2.5k the first time and about 6k the second time (went with family). Have plans to go back later this year, so who knows.> How long did you stay there for?30 days total if combining both trips.> How much Japanese did you know?Enough to survive, but not enough to hold deep conversations. My comprehension is also not the best, so I gave a lot of blank stares as my brain translated what was told to me, and what my response should be.> What was the most expensive part of your trip (besides plane ticket)? And the cheapest?Where I stayed was expensive, and the trains. My flight was actually the cheapest for both (airline benefits).> How many towns did you visit?A lot of the wards in Tokyo, and some towns outside. I plan to go out to Kyoto/Osaka and the countryside more in my next visits.> Did you enjoy it?Yes, which is why I am going to go back again.>Bonus question: in hindsight, now that you've been there, what are some things you discovered that would've helped you save some money during your trip?Get a rail pass and avoid tourist traps (I didn't fall for any, but this should be obvious).
>>2456029This is 2019 prices and info from a group of 4 dudes who split costs. YMMV> How much did it cost?Tickets about 1k from South US. Hotels were about 150 a night. JR pass was 200 ish a piece. Food was maybe 35 a day? Some were much more like the unlimited ghengis khan and other pricier restaurants. > How long did you stay there for?2 weeks. Spent at least 2 days in every major city went to.> How much Japanese did you know?Barely any. I could ask some things and had common phrases but responses or questions back were a mystery to me. I was learning Hiragana and basic kanji so being able to ID important words like locations was helpful. Not that it got me far, but if you can pick up the symbols faster, you can navigate faster.> What was the most expensive part of your trip (besides plane ticket)? And the cheapest?Expensive? Not including my purchases at mandarake? The JR pass. Or possibly my phone data since Verizon offered service there. Cheapest? Conbini food. > How many towns did you visit?Landed and immediately rode the train to Osaka. Hit Nara, Himeji, Hiroshima, Miyajima, Kyoto, Kurama for the fire festival, and ended with 4 days back in Tokyo. > Did you enjoy it?Absolutely. I did have to make some time away from friends, but it was great. Tiring, incredible sights, once in a lifetime happenings, etc. GF and I have basically decided Japan is our honeymoon, and we're hoping to go for 2 weeks at least.>>2458740When I went with friends we bought the JR pass because we knew we were traveling far from Tokyo to multiple cities. It was very worth it in 2019, but then again we got 2 weeks for 200 bucks. Now it's $350 I think? There's probably cheaper methods if you're not going too far out.
>>24560293k (with airfair)10 daysEnough japanese to be polite (relying on Google Translate for the rest) Hotel by far, everything else has been very affordable. Staying in Ginza and taking day trips to surrounding areas in Tokyo (furthest out from the city center will be mid-Saitima).Currently here and really enjoying it :)(Pic is hotel view)
>>2461476That's an expensive hotel. Is there something modern, a western chain, and below 100$?
Right now Japan is rather cheap due to the yen collapsing thanks to central bank shenanigans.
I'm a Japanese living in Tokyo, and I'll answer as much as I can.Even when shopping, depending on what you buy and where you buy it, just "taking the trouble" can lightly make a difference in price by almost 3%.A 3% difference in a 300USD purchase would be enough to eat Ramen in Japan.(I apologize for the difficulty in reading this as I'm using an automatic translation)
>>2461579I don't know about western chains, but you can certainly find modern for under 100 a night if you book in advance and in the right areas. The hotel was part of vacation splurging, so its not a necessity.
>>2459814>hello my brother how are you doing tonight?
>>2459814>der schwarze coomer
>>2457249>mommyfag is closetgaymany such cases
>>2457062Will my native English and passable Brazilian Portuguese get me by?
>>2462812If you want to only meet English/Brazillians, sure
can somebody give me an opinion whether should i cancel my trip to Japan on October and change it to August instead?i felt like October felt so long, but i do want to see Autunm season in there
>>2463936I might go in the autumn this year. It seems like the best time to go now that I've seen the sakura season. Summer would only be preferable if you have festivals in mind.
Yeah.> How much did it cost?Hard to count. Infinity and more.> How long did you stay there for?6 years as of now.> How much Japanese did you know?Enough to attend university and get hired for a job in a Japanese company.> What was the most expensive part of your trip (besides plane ticket)? And the cheapest?Expensive: Food and taxes, I guess.Cheapest: Used game consoles are pretty cheap here.> How many towns did you visit?Many.> Did you enjoy it?Yeah, staying forever.
>>2463936Summer is too hot for me. And autumn is beautiful in Japan.
>>2456029>> How much did it cost?To memory I spent somewhere around 2k (australian monopoly money) all up>> How long did you stay there for?2.5 weeks>> How much Japanese did you know?Virtually none, though I could read a bit thanks to having learnt Chinese>> What was the most expensive part of your trip (besides plane ticket)? And the cheapest?Probably either the train pass or a night at a ryokanChepeast? fucked if I know. Probably a sanga from 7/11>> How many towns did you visit?7>> Did you enjoy it?Fuck yeah best 2.5 weeks of my life
>>2457488I actually believed you up until you said this. No command would send you TDY for a year and the typical contracts are a 3 year minimum
>>2456029> How much did it cost?I went with friends who paid my way so I'm not really sure, I know it was several thousand for the airbnbs we stayed at and maybe around a thousand for my plane tickets. That said I know it can be done cheaper, I've been looking at month long packages online with roundtrip plane tickets and month long hotel stays for around $2,500 USD. Food and souvenirs were extremely well priced.> How long did you stay there for?A little over two weeks> How much Japanese did you know?I know a little but I didn't use any, it was kind of intimidating so I just fell back on gestures and the google translate app.> What was the most expensive part of your trip (besides plane ticket)? And the cheapest?Assuming this doesn't count hotels/airbnbs either, most expensive was definitely the shinkansen tickets. I think we paid extra for premium seating but it was something like $150 each if I recall correctly. Cheapest was food and merch. Brought back a whole suitcase full of figures and games and books and didn't spend more than $300 altogether. Food was extremely well priced, could eat a filling and delicious well rounded meal for $10 or less pretty much anywhere in any city. Konbinis also have tons of great cheap food.> How many towns did you visit?15-20, it's real easy to hit up multiple places in a day with the way the trains work. But it was really kind of uneven, I basically spent two whole days in Akiba but other days we were only in a place for an hour before hitting the trains again. We only went between Tokyo and Osaka. Next time I'd like to go to Hokkaido.> Did you enjoy it?It was life changing, as soon as I got back to the states I felt like like I was out of place and I needed to go back ASAP. Been a month and I still feel that way, thinking about it every day just wishing even for the smallest things like walking around the corner to the Family Mart or taking a train somewhere new. I loved it.
anyone stayed in apa shinjuku kaukicho tower?
>>2463936Definitely not. October is a great time to visit.
Currently traveling Japan and I will say that it's kind of extreme to either end of a spectrum without a lot of middle ground. You can go fill up at your local convenience store for like $3, but going out for a proper meal can easily cost $30. Some locals know English so well that they'd rather speak to you in English than let you stumble through your caveman Japanese because it's faster for them, but the others will legitimately not understand you when you say a word they borrow from English without their accent on it.
Is it worth renting an AirBNB for two months in one town, then travelling all over the country and returning home to sleep and store souvenirs? Since with the rail pass I can travel as much as I want, right? I'm not sure how the fuck I'm going to do, carrying both my backpack and a luggage around, so I need solutions. I know hotels can easily be the most expensive part of the trip, so I don't know what to do. Renting a different hotel every day for the whole day would be really expensive I imagine. Do I just have to bite the bullet?
>>2464516yes, having a base is a good way to travel around if you can find it cheap enough. I rented a small room in a guest house with a shared bathroom last time on the outskirts of tokyo. it cost me like $400-600 a month from memory.dont do airbnb. not sure what its like in japan but its a rip off elsewhere, you'd likely be better off getting a hotel.
>>2464516How many times would you return to base?
>>2466101Two to three times a week probably. Something like sleep at hotel, walk through city, travel at night so sleep in the train, explore city, buy souvenirs, rent cheapest hostel I can find, finish exploring town, travel at night back to original hotel at night sleeping at train, explore original hotel's town a little more (likely Tokyo), travel at night... rinse and repeat every time I need to dump off souvenirs or save on hotel money. Sounds quite convoluted to be honest, but carrying my luggage with me around all the time sounds like a massive pain, so it's probably the right choice.
>>2466244>so it's probably the right choiceIt's not if you're planning on any distance longer than a few hours (Tokyo-Osaka) which is already pretty dumb in and of itself. You're going to spend so much time on trains, which in turn require their own commute to board in the first place (shinkansen and limited express leave from specific stations). Trains also stop at 12am and start again at 5am, so depending on where you are, the last intercity train back to Tokyo could be as late as 11pm or as early as mid afternoon and won't travel throughout the night. There are few sleeper trains in the country covering only limited routes and you'll probably have to pay extra on top of your pass to use them, not to mention the reservation process will suck up even more time. You'll be beholden to train schedules your whole trip and have to plan to stop any activity you're doing an hour or so early in order to make it to the right station on time, get food, retrieve your bags, etc.This is a really bad solution to cover up for something as simple as luggage, and you're not even going to save that much money compared to just getting a hotel or hostel in each location for 1-3 days. Even if you do, the added stress and lost time will more than make it not worth it. Your "cheapest hostel" is also going to end up being unpredictable if you book it even a few days before, let alone same day. You can end up paying $50-$100 a night in the right cities for a basic bitch hostel if you procrastinate.
>>2456029>How much did it cost?I went as an exchange student in high school, so only about 1000$. Basically just the flight fee. >How long did you stay there for?2 weeks. We had to take a basic Japanese language and history/culture course beforehand, and then later in the school year our Japanese counterparts came and visited and stayed with us. >How much Japanese did you know?Just really basic stuff. We didn’t learn to read any Kanji, it was all just Romanji and useful things that would help us as needed.>What was the most expensive part of your trip (besides plane ticket)? And the cheapest?I bought a fake sword kek. I was only 16 so I give myself a break about it. But I’m not an anime weeb — more of a Total War Shogun 2 fanboy. >How many towns did you visit?Towns? Only a few. Cities, however, a handful. Osaka was home base, but visited Kyoto twice, and then Kobe and Hiroshima. >Did you enjoy it?Yes absolutely. It was a phenomenal experience that opened up my eyes to the wonders of global travel, and how important it is to learn life lessons outside of the classroom. The people we met were wonderful, the food was excellent, and many of the sites and sights we saw were spectacularly beautiful. Happy to answer more questions about my experience. This was in 2012 — how the eleven years since have flown by so fast…
>>2464344just came back a month ago. everyday I think about Japan, wanting to go back. I can but its 6 months away.
>>2461579I'm in the process of planning/booking, I am spending 30 days in Japan staying exclusively in business/above business hotels, and my average cost is ~60/night US. The exchange rate is fantastic now and still getting better
some tipsget a suica, fuck JR passes and other shit. Suica is king. You can pay in many places with Suica, konbini, vending machines, ofc train gates, even many ramen shops and restaurants.travel with insurance, yes even if you are bulletproofdont eat at indian/paki/brown peeps operated places, got a 10 day diarrhoea at such place.BE HUMBLE, but have dignity. You dont have to be as polite as they are, they will always one up you until you are making a fool out of yourself. Be normally polite. it will feel weird at first everyone is SOO POLITE.jpeg but you get used to it. walk on the left side unless J people are walking on right side, there are rivers of people here, be in the river, not a salmon.BE GOOD to yourself, you wont know shit when u land, but you will learn with time, dont judge yourself too much. Accept its a new place and you dont know the customs or little tricks and ruleslearn some languagegirls are curious about white guys but its not a superpower, if you are above average in your country you will do well, better the smaller the city, unless we talking rural areas then just be slow and careful.Its an amazing place to experience, but you do feel alien and there is sometimes an aura of "do your thing and gtf outta here" but also I made many friends and I dont get the "I been living here for 10 yrs and have no frens buhu" you would have to be extremely narcissistic to achieve that. Dont expect Japanese people to chase you around to be your friends. You have to be humble, have genuine respect for the culture, and show interest, and know your place. They are experts at reading the air, and human behavior since they are so superficially polite all the time, they had to adapt to reading each other's vibes. So they read you a loud gaijin like an open book. Dont take their kindness for weakness or naivety, even girls. They are intelligent and resourceful. But also culturally so different you will need time to orient yourself.
anyone got experience with using SIM card from Mobal or Sakura Mobile to share? Does it work pretty well outside of big cities?
>>2458287>ShikokuDid 88 temple pilgrimage a few months ago, loved it, such a sick place. Mountains to climb, cool coastline, temples, rivers, everything and no fucking f*reigners in sight except other henro who are almost always based anyway. Sad seeing rural Japan dying though, I saw almost no kids outside of the big cities, place is fucked in 10-15 years. Gonna need to bring in some white South Africans instead of the usual immigrant nigs since they need people who will actually work. Shit, I would consider buying an akiya attached to a bunch of rice paddies and farming if they eased up on the immigration.
>>2467801Any major differences between Suica and Pasmo?Would they work in Fukuoka or Sapporo?
>>2467801man you sound like an absolute fucking faggothow the fuck do you have the gall to act preachy when you're sound like a herbalife seller
>>2467931All the main cards work the same across the country, you just can't use them to cross JR jurisdictions (ie. JR central to JR west), and there are places like Shikoku and Okinawa where they don't work as much, especially for the transportation, because they have their own cards there. In the countryside too you'll find less IC support. Unless you start out in those outliers, you just get whatever main card is offered at the stations where you landed.
>>2468221>you just can't use them to cross JR jurisdictions (ie. JR central to JR west)not sure i understand, what does this mean in practice?
>>2468223Each JR line is operated by a different company, and they issue their own IC cards. They don't allow you to scan in through a gate with an IC and cross over from one company's jurisdiction to another, you have to buy a paper train ticket for that. It is potentially easy to do it by accident though, you can board a limited express train after scanning through the gates with IC, head over to another district (say Okayama to somewhere in Shikoku), and either the train's ticket checker or the out gate at the destination will stop you and make you pay for the train ticket. It's not the end of the world, but you could run into a situation where you weren't carrying enough cash to pay for the ticket, and it will get pretty embarrassing and stressful I imagine.
>>2468235got it, thank you for the explanation
I was thinking about what my next trip could be and this thread paints Japan as pretty nice, and their US tourism visa is pretty lengthy. The only thing I want to know --- how easy it is to get a short term GF? I usually travel places for at least 3-4 weeks and get a "GF" I explore the country with, makes the experience so much better. 6'1 white male btw.
>>2468291Im sure theres a "Rent-a-GF" service in Japan. On one level its just a girl who will keep you company, hold ur hand and act as your gf/tour guide, but theres no kissing, touching, nothing else. On another level theres escorting with "GFE" I hope you make six figures cause thats gonna drain u in japan, also her english could be really sucky.
>>2468291All depends on your Japanese.
>>2456029>> How much did it cost?like 3 grand but it was a trip after graduating so I wanted to spend money>> How long did you stay there for?17 days>> How much Japanese did you know?I'm an EOP shitter, I recommend even something like duolingo because that would have been miles better than nothing>> What was the most expensive part of your trip (besides plane ticket)? And the cheapest?JR Pass was a lot but worth it since I was moving around a lot, probably wouldn't be worth it after the price hike.Food was by far the cheapest. you can eat like a king for less than 4000 yen a day>> How many towns did you visit?8 cities:TokyoYokohamaHakoneKyotoOsakaNaraHimejiHiroshima>> Did you enjoy it?It was a wonderful place.Probably the only country I've been to that I would actively want to return to.
>>2468291>I usually travel places for at least 3-4 weeks and get a "GF" I explore the country withdo you chat up girls online before you even enter the country? or do you try to find a girl that's willing to travel with you at a bar or something once you're there?i'd imagine that would be difficult to pull of consistently, especially since you would want to find one early on in the tripand what do you do about accomodation, i guess you can't book for the entire trip in advance?
>>2457989>>2464117FWIW I believe him. Most GS types are only here for a year and then they go back unless they apply for residency here, but I'm pretty sure GSs who are residents here get fucked out of certain deals and promotions. I know a guy who worked for NAVFAC in Sasebo who lived down in Nagasaki and took the train up to Sasebo every day simply to avoid living around the base.>t. stationed in Sasebo for three years.
>>2467845sakura runs on NTT DOCOMO.
>>2457475He made it up
>>2457476Lul dude, I went for 2 weeks a few years back and had multiple dates in Tokyo, Kyoto, and Osaka. Literally just be white.
>>2468538>i guess you can't book for the entire trip in advance?You could easily do that if you know what cities and places you want to be in, and aren't doing a lot of single nights. There's a pretty neat feature on agoda where you can book some properties without a credit card (filter for them), so if you change you plans mid trip you can just no-show or cancel at any point with no consequences.
>>2467845I had mobal the last third of my trip and it didn't feel any different than the other cards I used. I took it in the mountains in Wakayama and the signal came and went, but it would've been the same with any card in that environment.
>>2464117It was a term position for 1 year and offered no relocation assistance. That was the only reason I able to get the position, I had to sell all my shit and basically abandon my life in the US to do it. Those 3-5 year billets are coveted and incredibly hard to get into without seniority.
>>2468538>do you chat up girls online before you even enter the country?Should I? I usually whip out tinder/bumble when i get there and pop a few boosts>i'd imagine that would be difficult to pull of consistently, especially since you would want to find one early on in the tripI'm American, which means I grew up dating the hardest women on the planet. any other country is easy mode
>>2468324language barrier sounds pretty intense in japan. it was intense enough in spain/italy.
>>2463936I would kill to see Hokkaido in October. It was my original plan but I ended up having to take an opportunity to visit for 3 weeks in January this year instead. It was great but damn what I would give to see those colors…