Magnum XL-200 editionPrevious Thread: >>2405537>What is this thread?/rcg/ was created as a way for the roller coaster enthusiasts on here to discuss all things roller coasters and theme parks. While roller coasters are the main focus of these threads, there is also discussion on other theme park rides, as well as the parks themselves and trip planning too.>Can I talk about Disney/Universal in this thread?Absolutely! Disney discussion of all sorts including resorts/dining/trip planning is OK.Thread Pro-tip: The stairs next to the lift hill on roller coasters are purpose built and 100% entirely meant for park guests to climb up and take photos from up high.Roller Coaster Database:>https://rcdb.com/Amusement Park News Sites:>https://www.themeparkinsider.com/>https://www.screamscape.com/>https://www.coaster101.com/Disney Park News:>https://www.wdwnt.com/>https://www.wdwmagic.com/>https://www.allears.net/>https://www.mousesteps.com
>>2423126I like Magnum but I wish Cedar Point also had a clamshell restraint B&M hyper. In addition to Magnum, not in place of it. They can have such small footprints, like Magnum does, so space isn't really an issue and it could even hug the overflow lot next to Valravn. Among many other potential spots without getting rid of anything. Management problem feels it's redundant because of Magnum but they're not the same. Management would probably also say to go to Kings Island if you want that since they technically have two of them if you count Orion (and B&M counts it).
Finally, it's Pete Time.
>>2423326I do want to go to Disney parks again, but the Florida parks seem way too crowded and stressful. The California parks seem doable. I want to go to Knott's too.
>>2423344The California parks are also way too crowded and stressful. Disneyland doesn't have the infrastructure to support its crowds, it's too tiny and cramped and creates massive bottlenecks in spots like by where Adventureland meets New Orleans Square. It always has but much worse now. Knotts is also more crowded than in years past due to the locals being priced out of Disneyland going to Knotts.
How do y'all rank the Florida B&M loopers Hulk, Kraken and Kumba? All three have similar specs except Hulk is a little shorter but makes up for it with the launch which the other two lack. All three have mostly the same elements in a different layout order. All three have been known to bang your head and cause headaches.I'm gonna say 1. Hulk, 2. Kraken, 3. Kumba. I think Kraken has a better layout and better pacing. Also no MCBR which is nice. Being floorless doesn't really do anything IMO. Hulk's first half is better with the launch followed by one element after another but it meanders through the rest of its layout after the vertical loop tunnel and it's out of gas after the MCBR. But boy is that first half great. Kumba is okay and I still think it's pretty smooth for its age. Photogenic corkscrews and an inversion over the left hill. Better pacing than Hulk but I still prefer the other two.
>>2423377I didn't ride Kumba when I was in Florida sadly, but I rode Hulk and Kraken and I liked Hulk way more. Kraken knocked my head around too much. Hulk did too, but it didn't bother me as much as Kraken did. And I rode them both in the front row for comparison.
>>2423377Kraken does have a mid course block brake, but in the vid I watched looks like it provides minimal if any braking.
>>2423387Both would benefit from vest restraints IMO but they probably don't have the room for them in the station or the course. Kraken almost never has a line so I doubt they'll ever invest in it again. They say to tilt your head forward and it works but holding your head defensively in that position the whole time isn't very fun.>>2423388Huh. I didn't notice it, must have been off. I wish the one on Hulk was the final brake run.
>>2423408> They say to tilt your head forward and it works but holding your head defensively in that position the whole time isn't very fun.I'm used to doing that on Mystery Mine at Dollywood and so I don't really think about it there. I still have a great time on that ride, but it's true, it would be better if you didn't have to do that.
>>2423408>Huh. I didn't notice it, must have been off.That's how they should be. Watch a video of Goliath at SFMM and check out how much that one is programmed to slow down trains.
>>2423126>Magnum XL-200 editionbased and arrowpilled
>Thread Pro-tip: The stairs next to the lift hill on roller coasters are purpose built and 100% entirely meant for park guests to climb up and take photos from up high.can confirm
>>2423458Looks fun but I'd prefer to not to get kicked out of my favorite park for life. What are those things laying on the right? They don't look like the water things they look like Halloweekends props. I always figured this was where SteVe's carpenters were at.
>>2423466they store Halloween props back therethe lumber shop is out of frame to the right of that building behind the mcbr which is where they make all the signs for the park
>>2423418Just watched it. That's fucking terrible. The one I watched it comes to a stop. All that giant drop speed for nothing. I know B&M used to work at Giovanola and borrowed their track style but I guess I'll stop complaining about their own MCBRs. Never been stopped on theirs.. though that's always a possibility. On a side note I hate how SF has all these coasters named Goliath with nothing in common.
>>2423481Generally the park sets the operating parameters (within reason). If I remember correctly, when Goliath opened it didn't trim trains much going into the helix and people didn't like how strong the G's were in it, so the park changed the braking to what it is now. But even if it was untrimmed it's not a good ride.
>>2423126My dear sweet Magnum!
>>2423483Only thing that seems noteworthy about it is it held the drop height record for 3 months until Millennium Force opened up. But the drop angle for MM Goliath is only 60 degrees
tron ride at magic kingdom soft opens on monday>Access to the attraction will be via a Virtual Queue or Lightning Lane access via Individual purchase, using My Disney Experience. A standby queue will not be available. Each Guest can request to enter the virtual queue no more than once per day throughout regular park hours during the soft opening.>7:00 AM (Guests do not need to be in the park when they join, but must have a theme park reservation for Magic Kingdom park)1:00 PM (Guests must be in Magic Kingdom park to join the virtual queue)
>No Dial of Destiny shit in the Indy refurb, just replacing the rat shadows scene with a projection mapping effect of Mara's energy bolts destroying a potential escape routeThank god.
>>2423609Why is the building so far out the way? Guessing Tron will still be boarding pass when I go in Sept, hoping GotG won't be though.
>>2423650Thank you for explaining what was happening. I watched 3 videos trying to understand what is happening in the replaced rat branch moment.
>>2423609Whoever invented this virtual queue system needs to be “enriched” by a cartel in Mexico. You have a 1-2 second window to get it right at 7am and another 1-2 second chance in the park. Apparently with Guardians it was less popular than Rise so you had more of a chance but this Tron coaster is probably gonna be Rise VQ bullshit again. At least at first. It’s awful, I complained and got comped passes but they wouldn’t get us on the ride. I complained again via a letter because the passes were unacceptable since they used Rise in their marketing for the park. Rode Rise eventually and was underwhelmed anyways but still. The VQ is garbage and needs to be exterminated
Icon Park drop tower being carefully dismantled this past week. If they were going to scrap it they would just take a torch to it like CF did with Volcano and Wicked Twister.I keep reading remarks about it being disrespectful and tone deaf to ask if it will show up some place else. But nobody is stating the obvious, white people are only saying this because he was black. In 1999 a 12-year-old white kid died falling out of the Intamin drop tower at CA Great America. It still operates to this date. “For some reason” white people get all weird and sensitive when it comes to blacks.
>>2423979Some park somewhere will buy that drop ride, it's almost brand new.I think the difference between both of those incidents is that the one at Great America happened nearly 25 years ago and the moment of splat wasn't recorded and seen by millions of people instantly. The kid in California was also mentally and physically disabled, he weaseled out of his restraint as it was ascending. There wasn't a mechanical malfunction nor an operator error. It was purely the result of his own actions and his guardians' for putting him on it.The drop tower at Kentucky Kingdom was dismantled shortly after it severed that girl's feet, and she lived. That was due to both a mechanical problem and perhaps operator error as well, so it's basically indefensible and there was no chance the public would trust the safety of the ride again.
Why nobody make this type of fall tower anymore? Is it because is just a janky mess? Like i don't see them being built no more and this one is 25 year old but knowing the park they bought it from another park and it's way older. Anyway, i like them, pretty fun
>>2424089Nevermind, the ride is actually open there from 2007, they are just bad at keeping their ride in good shape. But my point stands
>>2424089They take up a huge amount of space and aren't as impressive as top hat launch coasters
>>2424089intamin stopped making that model in the 90sit's kind of a miracle that there's still any left operating with how janky they are
>>2424001Yeah you’re probably right. I still say the race thing is playing a part in people’s reactions. White people have the tendency to publicly put on an over the top empathy display for “not racist” points. The ride is still safe under normal restraint positions and I would still ride it. Oh well. They’re always falcon’s fury which also does the tilt thing and is over 300ft tall. When I was at BGT a few weeks ago they were working on it. Hopefully it’s close
>>2424101They hurt too. When it goes horizontal on your back. I hated it at Cedar Point but the nostalgia idiot in me would stop at Dorney just to ride it again. I’ll wait til their dive coaster opens.
>>2424104yeah I only rode the one at cedar point once ever and I remember it being uncomfortable. Other drop rides are just betterspeaking of which Cedar Point needs to get a real drop tower, Power Tower is kind of meh imo even tho it's kind of an iconic ride
>>2424089>Why nobody make this type of fall tower anymore?It was designed before magnetic brakes were available. That's why it has a horizontal runout. They're complex and have a lot of moving parts compared to later drop towers.
>>2424107Agreed. It’s kinda an eyesore too. I do like the spaceshot side more than the drop side but I like how Dr. Doom at IoA shoots you up twice now.
Was there ever any indication what Universal did with the Kongfrontation animatronics?
>>2423946Tron's going to be less popular than Guardians after the first month or so I think
>>2424174Agreed. But not at first. At least the average “Pooh-sized” (kek) fan will be filtered out
>>2423126>roller coaster enthusiastsgod damn mad children. roller coasters are for kids. i bet you still eat cotton candy too
>>2424183>i bet you still eat cotton candy too
>>2424183>roller coaster enthusiastAHEMi prefer the term "thoosie" thank you very much
>>2424195>Coaster StudiosHe's the archetypal zoomer thoosie but still not as bad as an average TPR member
>>2424200Is it more TPR members or just Robb being himself?either way i will never miss an opportunity to clown either tbhonest
>>2424111>>2424101I think this park keep it just for attention grab, but knowing they just added another fall tower (a very shitty and noisy one) maybe they will tear it down. Feels bad man, looks really cool>>2424094It take a lot of space but wide size they are pretty tiny, but i guess there are better way to use that space, like a coaster
>>2424183At the prices theme parks charge for it?!?
>>2424200>look up PoV for an obscure coaster>TPR logo shows>go look for another one>it's the only oneAt least you can turn the volume down I suppose.
>>2424001the orc died because he was too fat.
>>2424102it's boomers and self haters that care about orcs
Not sure what I expected but this PoV makes this entire ride concept just look a bit dull.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ic_tRRjV4OEEven the splash seems a bit forced.
>>2424445Agreed, but POVs make a lot of fun rides look dull. I would imagine that one splash is a neat trick on a hot day. So long as you’re not wearing shoes with socks
>>2424218>Is it more TPR members or just Robb being himself?His site's members were insufferable simps when it was at its peak>>2424290I know that feel. Sometimes I just say fuck it, guess I'm not going to see that one
>>2424290It’s okay if they’re steady. Coasterforce is so fucking inconsistent in terms of steadiness
>>2424621I don't like the little logo screen with the screams before each video, it's just a bit too long and a bit too shrill if you watch more than one video at a time
>>2424638Yeah. I just fast forward through that… and the lift hill (unless there’s a launch)
>>2424701>Yeah. I just fast forward through that…I do too it's just an annoyance like any other channel with a title screen I have to get through. Not video related but I don't like it when parks have a recorded safety spiel that plays on speakers while a train is going up the lift. It detracts from the experience and no one listens to them anyway (like automatic spiels in the station). I guess it's a legal or insurance company requirement.
>>2424702Weird. Which park(s) does that?
For me it's eating an overpriced cheeseburger listening to this lil nigga
>>2424949When I worked at WDW they claimed Cosmic Ray's was the busiest and most efficient fast food operation in the world. That was over 20 years ago though. The burgers tasted better back then too. We at there a few years ago and the burger had Mickey burned on the bun and flamin Cheeto dust. Looked nice but the burger itself was flavorless garbage with almost a s o y texture
>>2424174Tron's going to be a dud. Wrong park for it, MK demographic is families with small children. A lot of normal-sized riders don't like the sitting position. Children can't ride. Fatties have to shamefully queue up for a special seat. It should have went somewhere in Epcot.
>>2425008I wish MK had better food options. AK, EPCOT, and even HS to a lesser extent all have good quick service options, but MK is just shit. Even the Universal parks have better food these days.
>>2425008When I went last year I thought it was a perfectly good burger, but I have a soft spot in my heart for theme park/ball game concession style burgers
>>2425085Hollywood is worse IMO and they don't have enough places to eat. They have more food diversity in what they offer but it's not enough. I remember MK trying out some asian noodles and stuff around a decade ago and guests complained that they didn't have chicken nuggets or burgers. MK quick service is probably shit because kids mostly like to eat shit like chicken tenders/nuggets, burgers, hot dogs, mac and cheese, etc. that and they keep changing to cheaper food suppliers
>>2424218I met Robb a few years ago because they bought an ERT for the ride I was supervising at the timeHe was really cool to talk to, I think he knew he had a bad reputation at that point. But man almost everyone else there was as insufferable as I imagined they would be
>>2425085>Even the Universal parks have better food these days.That's not saying much. Universal ranges from Mythos to shit I wouldn't feed a dog
>>2425168Yeah, I can always find something good in Universal, but there's also a load of abhorrent shit that an unprepared guest is likely to stumble into. I hope they can up their game for Epic Universe, as I feel food is pretty much the only thing Disney still mogs them on (Magic Kingdom notwithstanding).
>>2425179Cafe La Bamba is so fucking disappointing. The exterior really made it seem like it would be special
Alright nerds, post the most recent coaster (You) have ridden
>>2425253Gallopin' Gorgons
>>2425253Ended my trip with three rides on this. My favorite ride at either park.
>>2425179Magic Kingdom has good restaurants they're just usually so busy you can never eat at them
>>2425268My favorite as well.>Bring friends to Universal for HHN because they love haunted houses and have never been before.>Hype them up for the Mummy before we go.>It was under refurbishment, but had started running so I figured we'd get on no problem.>We get there and it's down again.>Closed all four days of our trip.>Bummed as fuck I don't get to show them my favorite ride.>Oh well, at least we got everything else.>Come back at night for one more go at HHN.>Walk past the Mummy.>It's fucking open.>Suppress our urge to go in immediately because if we do, the best haunted house will have it's wait time quintuple.>Go into the house then head to the Mummy.>Closed again.>Spend the rest of the night checking the app to see if it opens.>No dice.>Walk past again towards the end of the night to be sure.>It's open again.>Rush into line.>Get through with no issue.>They both love it.>Perfect way to end the trip.We also had a miraculous night ride of Velocicoaster that was probably the single best coaster experience I ever had. Hell of a trip.
>>2424718Fury 325's plays for most of the lift hill:https://youtube.com/watch?v=p3EjDdglIhM&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE&t=60I think Canada's Wonderland has some similar lift spiels, seems to be a Cedar Fair thing.
>>2423344Disney World is just an all around better experience in nearly every way. It's a shame Disneyland is in California and surrounded on all sides the way it is
>>2425253this was pretty fun to ride at night.
The money's run outhttps://www.kentonline.co.uk/dartford/news/company-behind-2-5bn-theme-park-calls-in-administrators-283986/This is such a fucking no brainer of a location. It's in industrial brownfield site around the corner from a Eurostar terminal. You could spend 2 days in Disneyland Paris, hop on the train, 2 hours later you're in the London Resort where you can go to the theme park or take a boat into central london.But nope, there's some shitty spider that lives on the polluted soil and concrete, so much more important that this land stays an eyesore for them.
LOL. The Mary Poppin's ride was just going to be another teacup ridehttps://issuu.com/damonpressman/docs/damon_pressman-_2022_portfolio
>>2425847Lame. The original plan way back in the day was for your ride vehicle to be one of the animals on a carousel and for the animal to break off from the carousel and enter a dark ride
Would you ever get married at Disney World?If your wife asked you for a Disney wedding would you say yes to her and make her dreams come true?
>>2425597im not a britbong but whats the consensus on this from the general public in the uk? do they see this as something that's eventually going to come to fruition or do they see it as some sort of investor trap that'll never happen?
Never been to Cedar Point...does it live up to the hype?
>>2425862Bitch I'm not made of money
>>2425847Better than nothing at all. And it eats people... although I would prefer something with a higher people-eating capacity. Fans complain about them but I still think Disney should be filling in the gaps with off-the-shelf flat rides. Themed of course. Just to help with capacity. Even Epic Universe appears to have a few from the concept art.
>>2425375If you can afford to stay on site, it's a much better experience than Florida because you're a short walk away from everything. Universal Orlando is much better in this regard. You can walk to the MK from the monorail hotels (when the walkway isn't closed for construction) but it's a long walk even from the Contemporary side. Boardwalk to World Showcase is the shortest. Disney fans have always boasted of the property's size but it's too big and too spread out.
>>2425880If you like coasters, yes. If you live near a major coaster park you might be more on the "whelmed" side though. Cedar Point does have a lot of obnoxious biased fanboys (including myself). Hershey is even worse for that and their fans think they have a rivalry with Cedar Point. I've never been to Hershey, heard the crowd situation on average is worse than Cedar Point's worst.Cedar Point is overall my favorite park but if I was being more objective I would say that Silver Dollar City and Dollywood are better overall parks for everything they have (not just Coasters). Followed by Islands of Adventure, Kings Island and then Cedar Point.
>>2425253I rode this 9 times on a Friday a few weeks ago. Line was either a station wait or walk on. Floater was amazing.I've ridden 2 other B&M hypers, Nitro and Diamondback. I like Mako the best but that's probably because it's the only one I marathoned.Nitro's bunny hills are great though. All 3 are great. Shame that they don't have any on the west coast
>>2425862Only if she wore a big beautiful disney princess dress.
>>2425869Don't know what their endgame is, but it was always very fishy. Just 10 years of proposals and no detail on who would actually fund it.
>>2426030I've ridden Mako and Intimidator. Mako is definitely the better of the two. I'm going to Six Flags Over Georgia this year and I'll ride Goliath. A lot of people really seem to like that one.
>>2426084Whenever "best B&M hypers" comes up, every list is different. SFOG Goliath seems to be a lot of people's favorite B&M hyper though. Not counting hypers, the closest to a consensus best is Shambhala at PortAventura in Spain and the layout does look pretty good in POVs.
>>2426103I meant not counting gigas. B&M still considers the gigas their hyper model
>>2425253Pretty sure it was this when I went last May. The line was short so I rode it a few times in a row to end the day. Its such a badass ride.
>>2426120Love the ride so much. It was closed last time I went in 2021. I'll make up for it this year.
>>2426133That sucks. I was worried the day I was there if it was going to be open It was my first time there and I had no idea when I would make it back. LR wasn't open for several hours. Eventually it did though, so I rode it a bunch. I hope you get to ride it when you go anon.
>ALRIGHT HERE WE GO >WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE>WOOOHOOO>ALL THE WAY UP....SIDE DOOOOOWNNN>WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>2426164But that Viper doesn't go upside-down...
>>2426165Its the most obnoxious pic of him I could find. Really captures his essence
>>2426163Yeah, I had ridden it before and I loved it. Was excited to ride it, but a few days before my most recent trip, there was some kind of minor accident where the train coming in bumped the one that was loading in the station. So I figured it would probably be closed while I was there, but I had a great time anyway because Dollywood is such an awesome park.
>>2425880if you just care about the rides, yesit has a lot of downsides like being located nowhere near a good airport, the park layout is really huge so there's a lot of walking, food is mostly meh. But their sheer selection of rides is kind of unmatched everywhere. Also just because of where they are located they don't get absurd disney sized crowds even though it's a world famous park in it's own right, the only time it gets unbelievably busy is during their halloween event
>>2426205I think their food is above average for amusement/theme park food. Farmhouse Kitchen & Grill that opened last year is pretty good (which bodes well for the new boardwalk restaurant). Their table service outside the marina entrance, Bay Harbor, is excellent. There ere are a few decent chains. The place in the water park has a good menu. And I'm a sucker for the fresh cut fries.Most guests and pass holders probably live within a 100 to 150 mile driving radius. On any given day I'm sure they have a handful of travelers from afar but most are coming from the Cleveland, Detroit and Columbus metro areas.
>>2426120>>2426163Looks like RMC topper track. Didn't LR get re-tracked with I-Box? I can barely find I-Box pics and none of the quad down with I-Box
>>2425253I was going to Rockin Roller Coaster the day before, and they shut it down for the rest of the night while I was waiting on line. So Thunder Mountain then Space Mountain.
>>2426268comfy
>>2425253Was waiting for Indy to come back up so I went on it. Was at night and raining a bit so I hardly waited at all, and was a pretty fun experience. Just wish I waited a bit longer to ride it during the fireworks.
>>2426164I wouldn't even mind him naming the elements as that can potentially be interesting but holy fuck he does it in an irritating way.
>tfw no coaster gf
>>2426521Very nice
Dollywood appreciation post
Looks like Disneyland wifi doesn't block 4chan anymore. Neat
>>2426727My first big roller coaster. I was scared of them for a very long time. We'd go to Dollywood and I'd never ride them, but my dad and brother would. I'd skip Tennessee Tornado, Mystery Mine, even Daredevil Falls. That ride not having seatbelts freaked me out. But I saw them riding Thunderhead over and over, and I thought it looked like it might be pretty fun. I found out it had both a lap bar, and a seatbelt, and I decided I'd give it a shot. I remember being pretty nervous going up the lift hill, but I really did love it and we rode it a bunch more times after that.
>>2426800Show us Disneyland, Anon.
I just love the resorts bros. My old man took me fishing here when I was wee lad and I'll never forget it
>>2426922For me it's the Yacht and Beach club and the pirate ship slide
>>2426922It’s mostly nostalgia. The primary reason adult WDW fans love the place. Aside from all stars and pop and art of animation, the resorts do mostly have nice exteriors and facades. Decently themed. Nice bathrooms. Nice main buildings and restaurants. Nice pools. The rooms themselves are a mixed bag depending on the age of the property and the last refurb. No amount of comfy theming and nostalgia is worth that price tag. I have fond memories of the Polynesian back when the lobby fountain was still there and you could swim in the lake
>>2426727Dollywood is better than any Disney or Universal park.Lots of great rides, great shows, great food, great festivals, great atmosphere, great theming.I like Islands but if not for Hagrid being 2 hours at rope drop you can do that park in a half day.The Disney and Universal parks are heavy on dark rides and 4D with only a handful of things to do, you spend most of your day waiting in line for them.To be fair, Dollywood is getting more and more crowded. Disney bloggers going there too.
>>2427123>Disney bloggers going there too.They're gentrifying my park. At least Dollywood is expanding like crazy and adding new coasters almost every other year.
>>2427141>They're gentrifying my parkHa! I did see some families in matching Dollywood shirts.Gonna keep seeing more of it, especially since Disney can be miserable and too expensive.Silver lining is Dollywood will keep expanding, especially as along as Dolly is still alive. She puts a lot of her own money into it.Could see area hotels go up in price as a result though. The shops with Trump and dixie flag merch might scare some of them away
>>2427145I'm glad I live close enough to go there and back in a day. That Dollywood hotel looks cool though. I'd like to stay there sometime just for the hell of it.
>>2427151Same. It costs a little more than hotels or cabins in the area.Looks really nice though, I would like to stay for at least a day sometime.They have the cinnamon bread, anybody can stop in without going to the park for it.
>>2425880>Never been to Cedar Point...does it live up to the hype?Imagine a park with Iron Gwazi, Velocicoaster, I305, Kingda Ka and a great supporting cast and you pretty much have Cedar Point. Not exactly 1:1 yet pretty darn close (jury is still out on Dragster). They also have several resort properties including one next to the park on the beach. A relaxing resort down the road with golf courses. A themed indoor water park hotel for the kids. The beach is nice and all park guests can use it and the bars and restaurants at the hotel. They’ve got an area with glass blowing and wood carving and a really nice rustic bar. Shows. Decent (overpriced) food and booze. Lots of coasters and flat rides including lots of kids flat rides. Awesome views of Lake Erie from some of the coasters. A Von Roll sky ride. A unique and special racing carrousel that goes 15mph.Like the other anon said, it’s in the middle of nowhere and not close to any major airport. It’s worth driving 500 miles or less to for sure. Make a trip out of it and take a ferry to one of the islands or visit a winery or just chill at the beach boardwalk. They got parasailing there and other activities. The outdoor water park is now pretty good too and worth visiting. If it’s not too crowded, not raining or windy, staffing is good and everything is mostly open, it’s one of the best parks on the planet
>>2427182What does "not too crowded" look like for Cedar Point?
>>2427185Everything except Maverick with under an hour wait. Maverick has a poor capacity.They’re only fully staffed from Memorial Day to Labor Day and rely heavily on a summer work program for college students. Weekdays while local schools are in session are the best time to go during this period. Weekends are the worst, especially Saturday. Their busiest is during Halloweekends in the fall after Labor Day when the park has less staff. It’s awful then and many restaurants are closed. Late May, early June and late August are the best for crowds. The waterpark is only open Memorial through Labor days. You can still go on a Saturday in the summer and if most everything is running and most restaurants are open, have a good time. You’ll have a better time with Fast Lane Plus
>>2427205Yeah, waiting anywhere near an hour is still a lot. Kind of wish it was located in the south so it could be open year round. I plan to go someday, but I'll definitely spring for the Fast Lane.
>>2427231Backs in the 2000s I often waited 2-3 hours for Millennium Force, Top Thrill Dragster and Maverick. 45 mins for Steel Vengeance is nothing to me. If you come during the week while school is in session, you won’t need Fast Lane as everything except Maverick will be a station wait to 15 mins. Including SteVe. Get it if it’s Saturday. On peak crowd days, even the Fast Lane lines get long especially SteVe.
>>2427241I can't deal with weekend crowds at all. I always avoid going to them on Saturday. It's worth it for me to take work off, it's a much more comfortable experience.
>>2427243I went to BGT on a Tuesday a few weeks ago and it was dead.Shorter hours and no festival but definitely worth it.Bought their quick queue and didn't even need it, could have got a refund but unfortunately I scanned it once.They're busy right now because of Spring Break but I always wonder how BGT would fare if it were say right next to Sea World by Orlando.The Sea World parks might get hurt by Epic Universe more than Disney. Would help to have something like BGT right next to SWO.
>>2427245I see what you mean. SeaWorld is easy to squeeze into a Universal trip now. Once Epic Universe opens that'll take more of people's time. But it was a great way to spend a day. The place was empty last September. The only wait was to get in to see the penguins.
>>2426268>>2426286Space Mountain is "Hey son let's go on this coaster daddy loved when he was your age" the ride.
>>2427257It'll be interesting to see how SeaWorld fairs. On one hand, as you mention, it'll be harder to fit into a Universal trip. On the other hand, it'll now be the only one-day park in Orlando.>>2427286Even as a kid, I never liked Space Mountain. A shame because I can appreciate the aesthetic and the great queue soundtrack, but the ride always bored me.
>>2427290Two if you count Discovery Cove. Not a traditional theme park yet not a water park either. Very unique place. Sea World has cheap season passes to entice the locals at least. Nothing in the park is cheap but the pass discount helps with that too.I did like Space Mountain as a kid, didn't start boring me until I got older. And it got even rougher. Then they added more trims and made it even more rough. Has nothing to do with not seeing the layout, I memorized it and I can see pretty good in the dark. Plus I rode it with the lights on when I was a CM during a parade preview event. It's just rough and old and not worth the time.Clearly some folks have a weird nostalgia boner for it. I guess as long as it eats people they should keep it but they should also consider a total re-track for rider comfort and not using some no-name company like they did in CA only to have it turn rough again.
>>2427241i always found fast lane to be kind of scam thereI only ever found it worth it for Dragster which has shit capacity and went down a lot so skipping the line was basedeverything else in the park they do a good job of keeping the lines moving. SV used to have capacity issues but they fixed it with the double sided lockers finally
>>2427319Dragster and Maverick. SteVe had steady three train operation last year and the merge point is before the lockers and the ratio of FL to standby is not terrible. So agree not really worth it. But it might be worth it for somebody traveling a long distance who is only going there once on a Saturday in July. Or… a Saturday in October (yikes!)
>SteVe>Millie>MaggieI like Cedar Point but that is cringe
>>2427330the main reason steel vengeance had capacity problems was those fucking pouches on the trains, people took for fucking ever to get off of the damn rideand opening year it was bad because they obviously had a ton of technical problems, also the MCBR wasn't a usable block because they kept valleying from it during preseason testing. They would finish checking a train but then have to wait like 30 seconds before they could send it which was lame
>>2427334Yeah I agree. I only use SteVe but it is cringe. I prefer MilF for millennium. I do like how Cedar Point named their exclusive squishmallow seagull Steve.
>>2427350Iron Gwazi has those pouches. Doesn’t really matter there because they only can run two trains. They check seat belts first, then you pull down on lap bars and they check those before dispatch. Still doesn’t matter there because they other train isn’t back yet. Also ST >>> IG. IG is still very good but it’s also really odd on that it runs slower in the morning
the toy story BBQ restaurant opened up at hollywood studios.at a random point in the meal the intercom turns on and woody tells you that andy is coming and the waiters make you freeze in place as you hear andy walking around above you looking for a toy.you then pay your bill with a comically oversized pen.another goddamn gimmick restaurant at hollywood studios I just want to eat a meal for christ sakes I guess for my next trip it's another dinner at fucking Mama Melrosehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBNqpzVinXw
>>2427453I feel like Tim must be at the point where he fucking loathes going to theme parks but the money is not worth fucking up. I'm kinda fed up going twice in a month. This dude goes multiple times a week.
>>2427453There's also a Partysaurus Rex rave intro that's super awkward since its basically character dining shenanigans without any actual physical characters popping up in the restaurant.https://twitter.com/WDWNT/status/1638920188291588098
>>2427429I still need to get down the florida and ride gwazi just so I can compare it. I kinda stopped paying attention to it because they kept delaying the opening Coasters running slower in the morning is normal, takes a while for the track to get hot. I always had people ask me about that when I worked on SV, usually because they were whining about the trimming even tho SV doesn’t let the operators control that at all. It’s all based on speeds that it senses when trains go through the second half of the ride
>>2425253Woodstock Express but I can’t say which park because not only is it my home park but I work at it as an op
>>2427453>milkshakes in jars>with handles on themThat's an automatic "never going to go here" for me.
>>2427506>>2427453I feel this is something that started as a really good idea but they keep coming across financial or practical limitations that meant ideas wouldn't work or needed to be scaled back, but they never changed the rest of it. Too claustrophibic and the cast stuff is top cringe.Make it into a giant lunch box where it's "open" at the top and you get a crack of light simulating sunlight going through it that gets blocked to make it look like Andy is walking past. Replace the cast memember stuff with animatronic stuff
>>2425043Epcot already had a new roller coaster being built.They put it in Magic Kingdom since that hasn't gotten any new rides since Seven Dwarfs opened in 2014.
>>2425253Colossus at Thorpe Park
>>2426014>I still think Disney should be filling in the gaps with off-the-shelf flat ridesWouldn't be surprised if Disney are weary of doing so due to backlash over Toy Story Land and original Cali Adventure being off-the-shelf flat rides
>>2427521You know people can just easily look that up, right?
>>2427751Off the shelf is fine if they're built along with an E-ticket. It's when they're being built instead of one it becomes a problem. Toy Story land at Disney Studios Paris was an embarrassing addition to an embarrassing park.You've also now got the problem where they're building a massive new expansion and builing a B-ride (straight clone of Frozen Ever After, no attempt to make it a longer ride) and an off the shelf Tea cups ride literally around the corner from another tea cups ride.
Documentary on The Haunted House at Alton Towers is out. Was a god tier ghost train before they changed it to Duel and it seems the new refurb that removed the guns again and gave it a story is pretty neathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuG5qQb9qA0
>>2427521so kings island then, because the woodstock at CP gets worked by a huge crew that covers that whole kids area kek
>>2426268Speaking of Rock 'n' Roller Coaster, I only recently found out the LIM launch uses a catch car. Still a good launch after 24 years. The only thing good about it.
>>2425043>>2427749Would have fit perfectly in Hollywood Studios
>>2427752Not him, but there are five versions of Woodstock Express at different Cedar Fair parks
>>2425253Mystic Timbers during Winterfest
>>2425253Criminally short, but still good fun and really well themed
I'm going on holiday to Orlando soon and want to visit Universal for one day. Do I go Studios or Island of Adventure? I'm more interested in the rides.
>>2428329If you're dead-set on just doing one park, then go with Islands. Everything Studios has Islands has a better version of. I dont think it's much more expensive to do the two park option however and The Mummy, Rip Ride Rockit, and Men In Black are all worth checking out.
>>2428329Islands is the better park overall, but The Mummy is such an amazing ride and it's at Studios. If you've only got one day I'd try and get a two park ticket and see the best of both. But if you're just going to one, it's Islands.
>once again dreaming of a compact, spaghetti-bowl Intamin giga
>>2423344Don’t listen Disneyland is a much better experience they have many of the same attractions but in a smaller space Plus they’re always open later usually 12 and 10 I stay at the Hilton it’s a 4 minute cab ride 15 minute walk 3 days to see everything plus 1 for knotts berry farm
retarded fucking question from someone who hasn't been to an amusement park since they were a teenager. We went as a family of four so it always divided nicely since all the coasters are either 2 or 4 riders.What happens if you have an odd group size though? I don't ever recall seeing a bunch of empty seats on a ride. Does one of the guys just have to not ride?
>>2428468If it's a 4-across ride and you have 3, then you just ride with an empty seat unless they have a grouper that will stick single riders on there, you don't have to worry about itOtoh if you had a group of 7 you'd either split it up between two different trains or get in different rows so you can ride on the same train (most groups don't figure that one out)
>>2428470what about group of 3 on cars of 2? Where does the single rider go?
>>2428480You should be able to figure it out using the example above
Toutatis at Parc Asterix looks a really good coaster. I need to go to this park at some point, I've driven past it loads of times.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoViuIkVjA4
>>2428501All of these multilaunchers are starting to look the same
>>2428480They get shot in the back of the head and dumped into the excess rider recycling chute.
i wish i could've experienced moonsault scramble
>>2428386I’m pretty sure a compact spaghetti bowl giga wojld kill you from the sustained g-forces
>>2427749Still should have went to Epcot. Doesn’t matter if they recently got a coaster. Did anybody complain about Velocicoaster so soon after Hagrid? Also the Magic Kindom went over 20 years without any major new rides. Disney parks traditionally thrive off of their old legacy attractions. Not sure that model will continue to be sustainable
>>2428606Tron makes zero thematic sense at Epcot. Guardians is out of place enough already, it doesn't need more nonsense
>>2427521>>2427752>Not calling it The BeastieNgmi
>>2428615Tron was literally co-marketed with the opening of Epcot Center, the digitization sequence was used in World of Motion as the transition into the future city finale, and it was very close to having its own "Tron Arcade" within Communicore before it fell down the same memory hole the Africa, Spain and Israel pavilions that were also teased with Coming Soon signs on opening day.
>>2428634Also the Test Track revamp was originally gonna be Tron themed before Legacy underperformed
I cannot score higher than 500k on Men In Black. I BTFO the other vehicle every time but I still feel like I can do better.
>>2428726Man, that revamp is a fucking travesty, and I cannot believe there are people who actually prefer it.
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/27/disney-layoffs-bob-iger-memo.htmlSemi-related to /rcg/, the mouse is ruthless.
>>2429243If Iger isn't a complete and total retard it will just be simple fat trimming of useless non money making bureaucracy like the DEI bullshit and it probably won't have any effect on the parks at all. With a company as big as Disney there's probably at least another 10,000 people on top of that who contribute virtually nothing of value to the company. I'm still mad about Splash Mountain though.
Is Cedar Point fun solo? Do they have single rider lines? I want to visit but none of my friends like coasters or amusement parks
>>2429287They don’t have single rider linesIt’s an okay park to solo as long as you splurge for a fast lane wristband
>>2429225>I cannot believe there are people who actually prefer it.I'm one of them
>>2428615Disney no longer cares about making thematic sense, especially at Epcot. Epcot’s original concept has its nostalgic fanbase but that fell quickly out with the public in the 90s. Overpriced festival food and alcohol “around the world” has kept Epcot on life support for over 20 years. Tron was Shanghai’s Space Mountain. It’s strange to clone it right next to Florida’s actual Space Mountain. It’s weirder still to put a 48” height requirement and “fat shaming” bike coaster at the stroller and ECV capital of the world
>>2429460Why? It's a direct downgrade with no positive changes except for minor queue interactivity (at the expense of a pre-show and thematic queue). I can see maybe preferring the aesthetic, but the substance of the ride is worse in every way.
>>2429602>minor queue interactivityThat's enough for me
>>2425253>havent been to a park in a year and a halfEejanaika IS the best coaster on the planet.
>>2429602The car designing game is fun. They should have kept half the soul from the old version and mixed in half of the "futuristic" vision of the current. It's still a great ride but I could see how it took a step back in many ways.
>>2425253Would've preferred a final ride on Raging Bull or Viper, but it was still fun.
>>2429646And forgot pic again
>>2429648Only been on one wing coaster, and it's Wild Eagle at Dollywood, which I've heard is the weakest one in the country. It did underwhelm me a little the first time I rode it, but I think it's somehow gotten better overtime. I've heard others say that it runs better than it did when it opened.
>>2429626The biggest thing is that they ripped out the hot, cold, and corrosive rooms and replaced them with nothing. Like, they just put a screen on the wall showing an aerodynamics test. They couldn't even be assed to put a fan there. It's so fucking lame. That's not to mention that several tests now lack context, particularly the final, climactic launch. The aesthetic change is fine, and the car designing is fun for first-timers, but they took out so much for seemingly no reason.
>>2429658>particularly the final, climactic launchIt's to test your design's power.The robotic voice even says "energising for power test"
>>2429660Maybe that wasn't the best example, but the change from the crash test to just a generic speed test takes away from the excitement of the climax. The real problem is in the first test (handling?). In the original iteration, you use the car's breaks, causing it to lose control. Then, on the second half, anti-lock brakes are employed, resulting in the car remaining steady. Now both of those things still happen, but there is no context for it. The car just loses traction then doesn't without explanation. I don't think the new version even mentions the hill climb test either.
Footer excavation for the Top Thrill Dragster retheme. Triangle point is lined up exactly with the launch side. Pretty much confirms they’re adding a spike for a swing launch although some are still in denial because they need everything officially confirmed even when the obvious is staring at them in the face.I hope they don’t launch you backwards to start off with, the ride would be better with a forward launch, a rollback up the reverse spike with LSM boost, and then a drop down the spike with another LSM boost to clear the top hat.
>>2429295Cheers bruv
>>2429658Yep. I only rode the 'newer' version once and the absence of those things stuck out and diminished the theme and ride experience. I've never liked Test Track anyways but the 'Tron' version is inferior. I can see the appeal to kids and boomers. Kids will like the car design aspect.
There's an early design of Test Track without the outdoor loop and all the track coiled up in the show building. Similarly, imagineers designed a coast in the early 2000s called Time Racers that would go inside of Spaceship Earth's tiny geosphere. I'm pretty sure this concept evolved or influence the Big Bang coaster that became Cosmic Rewind. This wasn't long after they retrofit a high-speed ride vehicle onto the old People Mover track in Disneyland that lasted a couple of years and led to structural damage.Clearly these people aren't roller coaster designers and those who designed the massive concrete Space Mountain building were long gone.
>>2423126just stopping in to say that as of around 2004, magnum XL was a legitimate top 5 roller coaster and it just got overlooked because it had already been around for a long time. the airtime was fantastic, not too smooth but who cares, no OTSRs so it didn't hurt your head. fags had already moved on to MF, but it's legit just not as fun of a ride even though it's taller and faster and better technology. besides X, magnum XL probably my favourite coaster of all time
>>2430111I only got to ride it once but my knees kept bashing into the seats in front of me during the finale and it took me completely out of the fun.
>>2430111I like millennium for its intense first drop and the forces on the first overbank that cause a lot of people to greyout. And for its sense of speed and the floater on the second hill. It's just a lot of fun. Back in the 2000s, however, I preferred Magnum because Millennium was often a 2 to 3 hour wait while Magnum could be sometimes a station wait. The ending hills are what make that ride. They're also what some riders don't like, including >>2430137 for the pain they cause. I've never had that issue but the Arrow transitions hurt my back a little (and always have). I hope they maintain it forever and they should, it has such a small footprint and intersects the water park
>>2430092Wasn't Space Mountain just a souped up wild mouse coaster anyway?
Are interactive ride queues still a thing or did they get replaced with mobile stuff now?
>>2430155It's always reminded me of a wild mouse but the curves are banked and there aren't any switchback sections. Its got a lot of Matterhorn DNA except the two tracks are intertwined on Matterhorn where with Space they're mostly seperate.
Could the footers for Rip Ride Rockit be re-used by a different manufacturer's coaster? I imagine that would also influence the layout and might not be feasible. Or the weight distribution would vary by coaster type. Just wondering how they can salvage that when it gets torn down in a few years for being a stinking pile of garbage.
For me, it's the Marvel Super Hero Island guitar riffhttps://youtu.be/vTVYe9wLlIU
>>2430156There's supposedly a big focus on having heavily themed queues with lots of interesting things in them and avoiding cattle pens. That said, it's always the case of any queue of more than 25 mins or so puts you in a cattle pen so they're kinda half arsing it.Haunted Mansion in Florida especially goes overboard with it cramming shitloads of people into a literal pen. Not sure wtf was up with that when I was went.
>>2430231What do you mean by "pen"?
>>2430231Are you referring to switchback queues? Disney pioneered the switchback queue at the 1964 World's Fair. I wouldn't say they avoid them more that they try to hide them and spread them out or sometimes widen them. I actually hate these fucking interactive queues because people and their kids don't move and get mad when you move past them.
>>2430216It's very 1999. Just like the entire Marvel island. If I was Disney I would say the cheapness and dated look of the land violates this part of the contract:>shall be operated and maintained in a first class manner consistent with the highest standards of the theme park industry
>>2430259I think that applies more to the rides than the land itself which is why Spider-Man had that update and Hulk Coaster got completely retracked.
>>2430259They probably can't "modernize" it, as in adding the versions of the characters from the current Marvel movies. I don't think the place feels outdated. It's much more comic booky but it's a cool place to hang out still.
disney just activated their trap card with DeSantis and won>Gov. Ron DeSantis’ handpicked board overseeing Disney World’s government services is gearing up for a potential legal battle over a 30-year development agreement they say effectively renders them powerless to manage the entertainment giant’s future growth in Central Florida.>Ahead of an expected state takeover, the Walt Disney Co. quietly pushed through the pact and restrictive covenants that would tie the hands of future board members for decades, according to a legal presentation by the district’s lawyers on Wednesday.
>>2430271I mean was anyone actually expecting Disney to lose on that.
>>2430260I think that's definitely why they did the Spidey update (I miss the 90s soundtrack from the original Spiderman) and Hulk retrack. The HP contract also mentions something about being world class attractions. The B&M service life is probably true but that's not why they did what they did. They did it because of these contracts. Now everybody thinks Kumba's on its last legs (mostly because of Screamscape's false rumor).
>>2430271lel, always funny to see the party of anti-big government get blown the fuck out by corpos
>>2430275>The HP contract also mentions something about being world class attractions.and that's why they replaced Dragon Challenge after it stopped being a duelling coaster, right?
>>2430271Meanwhile Universal files all their permits like normal and has no problems at all despite no special agreement.
>>2430278That's because universal doesn't have their own government entity.
>>2430279And it isnt stopping them from dabbing on disney millennials. Almost like it's entirely unnecessary and the only thing disney has used their for over the past 10 years is creating mediocre and unnecessary value hotels in swampland
>>2430280>it's entirely unnecessarynot for the 39 square miles of land Disney owns.in comparison the total area of Universal Orlando even counting the upcoming Epic Universe is less than one square mile.
>>2430282I still dont see the necessity. They only reason why it would be useful was if they were actively developing and expanding the area, which they are not.
>>2430284>They only reason why it would be useful was if they were actively developing and expanding the areaThat was probably the idea back in 1967 when they established it
>>2430285It's outlived its relevancy then. Only reason they truly wanted it, given the restrictions they have put on reedy creek, was to prevent universal from advertising on disney property and to bypass the height and density restrictions that would normally be regulated by oversight agencies.Disney looks like a huge bitch. DeSantis was the only governor crazy enough to allow them to open to partial capacity during the pandemic despite the reeeeing from the national press and california and libshits. How quickly they bite the hand that fed when they get the opportunity to virtue signal to the crowd that thinks 7 year olds can consent to gender transition.
>>2430277Probably. Service life aside, it was no longer special without the dueling and had lower ridership despite increasing attendance. I wouldn't call it a world class attraction, especially lacking it's original amazingly themed queue (that was never needed).Even if Kumba is past the end of its own service life, it still rides pretty good. There are many more rough steel coasters that should be retired before Kumba. I think Kumba is too iconic for the park even if it hasn't been a star attraction in decades. They'll probably re-track it themselves before ever getting rid of it. Time to do that was probably for this year though.
>>2430271>One of the conditions is Disney controlling part of the land until they either abandon the resort entirely or 21 years after the death of the last descendants of King Charles III.Holy shit.
>>2430302This will absolutely be subject to legal challenge and disney did themselves no favors by making it so in-your-face ridiculous
>>2430288JewSantis is a grifter. Disney are fucking idiots for virtue signaling gay and tranny identity politics. Their base is still largely families who don't want to hear that shit and they made their reedy creek situation into a headache. None of these things are worth appeasing mentally ill degenerates and their useful idiot mind virus cheerleaders.
