Is Colombia really that unsafe? Thinking of taking a trip to Bogota or Medellin. Went there a few years back and was fine. Not sure if the current global economic conditions have made people more money hungry and therefore, more prone to crime these days.>I speak spanish and look Mexican>I won't be doing drugs>Won't be going to the hood and plan to stay in nice Airbnbs
I also wonder if it’s really this bad or people are just trying to FUD to reduce the damage these fags did to the country.
>>2413581Well of course there's more crime but if you were there a few years ago and know what it's like there's nothing to worry about
>>2413581I just got to Medellin and there are a lot of sketchy dudes who look like they’re starving to death. They all have a desperate, dead look in their eyes.
>>2413581There’s definitely a dangerous vibe here in Medellin. I’m in el poblado which is the nice part but I’m always looking over my shoulder and trying to look angry when the sketchy faggots look at me. But the majority of the people here are friendly and cute. My plan if someone tries to rob me is to simply run away which is what I’ve done in Baltimore and DC.
Ask yourself what is there in Colombia that you can't see or do somewhere else. Personally having been 'around', that answer is nothing major.
>>2413666what'd they do? did they shill it hard?
>>2413722Even in the nice parts?
>>2413724>simply run away which is what I’ve done in Baltimore and DC.what a bitch, in colombia? fine. in burgerland? you're a bitch.
>>2413726i plan on going to coom desu.
>>2413724If they rob you, just give them what they want. Robberies over there are often group efforts, The guy in front of you and to the sides are also in on it, so really you've got no chance. Don't be stupid.
>>2413666I’ve been wondering why I’d seen so many jeeters in Medellin latelyChecked
>>2413771You don't see them coming a mile away?
Colombians hate foreigners for drinking, womanizing, and doing drugs, when that's literally all they doFuck them lolhttps://youtu.be/SAvVnVNSvDk
>>2413782Colombians are genuinely terrible people. They are a D on a tier list as far as people go.
>>2413771>Robberies over there are often group efforts, The guy in front of you and to the sides are also in on it, so really you've got no chance.This. You fall asleep with the wrong girl, and she might let in 4 guys with guns in the early morning to steal all your shit. Not larping, this exact scenario played out a few days ago (they ended up shooting the guy). That's why you stay in an Airbnb with 24 hour security monitoring who comes in. First thing you should do is pass the guy 100,000 pesos and say not to let anyone visit you unless you come down personally to let them in. Absolutely no guests are allowed to ring people up on your behalf. One case of scopolamine poisoning is reported every week in Laureles alone. They don't even need to put it in your drink, they blow it in your face or shake your hand with it. Faggots here say I'm larping when I say that, but it's not a larp.
>>2413726Beautiful women desperately in need of big Indian cock.
>>2413581>>2413722>>2413724If you're staying in Medellin, a good way to meet safe people to party with is staying at the Black Sheep Hostel. It's frequented by a Euro backpacker crowd, and the gender ratio is surprisingly good for a sexpat destination. You can smoke blunts on the terrace. There's no need to worry about security while you're there. It's owned by a New Zealander who comes off as a total misanthrope, which is a good trait to have as a foreigner in Medellin. It means you won't be falling for anyone's bullshit. There are a million cameras everywhere, you need to be buzzed in through a cage to even enter the premises, most nights the front desk is manned by a 6'2 Colombian guy.
>>2413735I haven’t ventured outside of the nice part (poblado) yet but even here there are a lot of sketchballs staring at you and if they hear you speak English they perk up and take a malevolent interest in you
Is booking 3 to 4 nights just to fuck and a day trip or two with it?Also to the moralfag that banned, fuck you.
>>2413737>cooming in a country known for tranny faced baboonsyou people deserve getting mugged for your shit tastes
>>2413820>a good way to meet safe people to party with is staying at the Black Sheep HostelI'm too rich to stay in hostels. Can I just mingle there during the day and then go back to my nice airbnb to sleep?
>>2413931Colombia is known for gorgeous babes, no?
>>2413935if by "gorgeous" you mean big assed troons and absolute goblinos with square faces then sure, have fun
>>2413934I met this Russian kid with dual British citizenship while I was there. His dad probably shits in the mouths of the world‘s most expensive hookers on the regular. If it’s good enough for him, it’s good enough for you. There are private rooms available with their own bathrooms. They’re the equivalent of what you’d find at any hotel in the city, unless you splurge on something really expensive. >>2413935It is, not sure what he’s going on about. Obviously not all the women are going to be attractive, that’s the same in any country. But Colombian girls have a reputation for beauty for a reason.
>>2413975Colombians don't look as good as people think. Their history of beautiful women is before the narcos which has left over half the country displaced and now goblin venzeuleans everywhere.
>>2413799This. I'm Colombian and can confirm
>>2413935yeah dont listen to others. colombia has some of the hottest latina chicks (second to Brazil and better chicks than Mexico).
>>2414244All of Latin America has hot Latina chicks if you know how to pull. Shut the fuck up.
>>2414244Most of the hot girls are gone though.
>>2414186>Their history of beautiful women is before the narcos which has left over half the country displaced and now goblin venzeuleans everywhere.Just shut the fuck up, you obviously don't know anything
>>2414219>>2414245Not him, but where do I even begin? Colombians are sneaky. They have the manipulative tendencies of Jews, without any of the redeeming qualities: work ethic, intelligence, self-control. Their brains are like anyone else's, except with a complete inability to weigh the consequences of their actions. Don't be fooled by the easy-going veneer: Colombians get violent at the slightest perceived insult. They take the seatbelts out of the back of almost every car. When you ask them why there aren't any, they chuckle condescendingly and say nothing will happen. Every time I return, I hear another friend of an acquaintance has died in a road accident. They can't help being the way they are, it's in their DNA. Colombia was inhabited by the Muisca people before the Spanish conquest. Rather than founding great empires like the Aztecs or discovering breakthroughs in mathematics and astrology like the Mayans, all they did was fuck. In fact, it was seen as a mark of shame among the Muisca if a girl was a virgin: it meant no one wanted to be with her (seriously). So the women were all sluts, which they continue to be to this day. Colombian girls grow up in the most abject poverty, but as soon as they're able to, they shit out another three kids to begin the cycle all over again. They couldn't choose worse fathers for their babies if they tried, getting knocked up by goofy little faggots with mullets and snapbacks (if you've ever been, you'll know right away what I'm talking about). Reddit faggots would say it's because they lack access to contraceptives, but isn't true. In the US, plan b costs $50 at CVS. In Colombia, you can get it for pennies. You can buy birth control for pennies. There's three pharmacies on every corner. It's not 1850. You don't even need a prescription.
>>2414307bitch ass, I was there before covid. The women are all fake as fuck. The good looking ones who are mostly white won't even touch a foreigner because they assume everyone is there to fuck the narco prostitutes and do cocaine. The colombian people despise foreigners. They want to take their money and get them the fuck out. The typical girl is Venzeulean that you meet anyways, as is the case across all of South America currently because so many fled the years of famine so they are full goblins and look indigenious as well.
>>2414219>>2414245>>2414327These aren't even their worst qualities. The reason why Colombians suck is their pride and avarice. Eurotrash backpacker girls think Colombians are the friendliest people on earth. Is it any wonder? Colombian guys see a white woman and they gush. But they're not like that with everyone. They are servile and obliging when they feel they are beneath you. But when they feel they're your superior, then they show their true colors: they become unbearably smug and condescending. That is why they'll do anything for a dollar: kill you, mug you, lead you on. It's all the same to them, as long as they get to lord it over others. There's a culture of "fuck you, I got mine" that surpasses even that of the American boomer. Anything goes in order to make a living as long as you're poor. Except work hard, study, live moderately. That's beyond them. All they're good for is killing, robbing, fucking for money. Catholicism was the worst thing the Spanish could have ever brought to Colombia. You could be the worst piece of shit in the entire world, as long as you make the sign of the cross at the end of the day, all is forgiven. God is with you, God will protect you. They don't even consider that if they weren't like this, if the country weren't so corrupt, if there weren't criminals everywhere, then maybe they could live differently. They're like animals. All they know is how to take, and be taken. A couple thousand Jews washed up on the shores of Palestine in 1948; within a generation they were a high-income nuclear weapons state like the United States or Britain. That's not a coincidence. They're just better people. 2/2 rant over
>>2414327>>2414344okay now tell me how to get GFE in Colombia. looking for a good coom trip.
>>2414356Nah, I don't like your tone
>>2414333Fuck off with your larp, go away. It's obvious you don't know shit to anyone who's actually been. It's like someone fed a shit version of chatgpt a bunch of /trv/ colombia posts and this post is the result, just nonsenseWhat do you think the venezuelan girls did? Kill all the colombian girls overnight? Where do you think the pretty girls went? You're fucking stupid lolI remember when I was 13 and just discovered 4chan. Lurk more and post on another board if you really have to. Don't post about a place on a travel board if you've never actually been.
Aight, just booked a short trip for March 24 thru 27. First solo trip. In my 30s. Should I book a hostel or hotel? Kinda want to socialize but also kinda wanna coom.
>>2414403Go for the hostel. I've seen plenty of people in their 30's at hostels. Just don't be a weirdo. That means don't try too hard to get in younger guests' pants, there's enough pussy to go around in colombia without you having to degrade yourself by being THAT old guy. Every backpacker girl has horror stories of being hit on by 40 year old sketchbags in a shared room. It really helps if you can pass for a guy in his 20's still. If you don't tell them your age, how will they find out? And get a private room, obviously.For some reason, there's guys that actually book shared rooms at colombian hostels, when your own place costs less than 40 bucks a night without scraping the bottom of the barrel. Be wary of colombian guys staying at hostels, especially if they're too friendly. Sensible hostels have policies that ban locals and stays longer than three weeks or so, but colombians ones don't have this in my experience, so you need to be on your guard. Literally anyone can book a room at these. Trust only foreigners. And if you run into an israeli, make friends with them, because they'll surely know the best contacts for scoring drugs. They are big into the local hostel scene because many locals refuse to rent to "israelites." They have a bad reputation for degenerate behavior. Countries like colombia attract IDF burnout druggie types on a bender with their army discharge money. Keep them at arm's length, they might get you into trouble.
>>2413581You’ll be completely fine. You do have to watch for pickpockets. Use rideshare apps if you can - there are rare incidences where tourists have been kidnapped, robbed, and left for dead by bandits posing as taxi drivers. Avoid going out at night alone. Be slow to trust people. It’s a fairly normal place, most people are very nice and the women are not nearly as mercenary as people say they are, but there are some absolute psychopaths there that you have to watch out for. Avoid whores and dating apps if you want to come back home alive.I stayed there for three months last year. Had two or three encounters with people selling drugs, and one instance where I thought a kid might have been waiting to pickpocket me, but other than that it was fine.
>>2413726Most anons are going there for sex. I’m unemployed and a generous 6 at best and I had more women down there than I knew what to do with. Wouldn’t recommend FYI, just stay home and play video games.
>>2413799I disagree, most were very nice. A lot of them are bad with money, but they’re Latin so what did you expect?
>>2413813I had a panic attack when some drug dealer tried shaking my hand the first night I was in Bogotá. I was eating something and just wanted him to go away. The cops were all over the place but I bolted as soon as I remembered reading about Devil’s Breath. Hid out in an Oxxo. Cops took me home, I’m sure thinking I was having a bad trip.
>>2413929No. It’s expensive to fly there for most anons but once you get there it’s incredibly cheap. I ended up staying about three months.
>>2413935They’re perfect. On one level they will try to be conservative about sex but they also unabashedly love men. It was refreshing. Thinner, care about their appearance. Just absolutely top shelf.
>>2414418>It’s a fairly normal place, most people are very niceI try to stay a bit alarmist in my posts, because it only takes one unguarded moment to fuck up your entire life. That moment is more likely to come in a country like Colombia, full of desperate, violent poor people. It's like road safety education. You'll probably be fine, but you have to be aware of the danger at all times.
>>2414327>They take the seatbelts out of the back of almost every car. When you ask them why there aren't any, they chuckle condescendingly and say nothing will happen.This is actually true. It was completely maddening. Rode back to my AirBnB with this girl once and just imagined her caving my head in with her skull while her breasts bounced all around the cab. The taxis are about a 70/30 chance in favor of having them. I only rode in two private cars but they both had them cut or behind the seat. They are also among the worst drivers on earth.The single mother thing is true too but quite honestly I found that endearing in comparison to the graveyard of the modern woman’s womb.
>>2414333>The good looking ones who are mostly white won't even touch a foreigner because they assume everyone is there to fuck the narco prostitutes and do cocainelmao you could not be more wrong
>>2414344The smugness thing is also true, it’s a very classist society where markers of status are considered very important. I always got the sense that that was why pedestrians yield to cars rather than the other way around - motorists presume they are more important than others.That said you went off the rails at the end. Israelis aren’t good people.
>>2414365The Venezuelan girls I met were all smoking hot. Lost my virginity to a 41 year old Venezuelan mother of two.
>>2414403>three day tripFor what purpose?
>>2414434Yeah, I could have communicated that better. You want to be safe, but as long as you’re in Bogotá you’ll be fine most anywhere you would have reason to visit. Cali felt more dangerous. I saw armed militia with automatic rifles and full body armor standing post in the restaurant district. Heard gunshots my first day there, too.
>>2414438>That said you went off the rails at the end. Israelis aren’t good people.Where am I supposed to post my unhinged rants, if not 4chan? Besides, I was making a point about their biological fitness. At least when Israelis kill, it's in service of their ethnostate, not in order to steal an iPhone 6. Israelis work hard in order to educate themselves, then return home and start cutting-edge businesses. They have a safe and orderly country in an ocean of chaos. When a Jew is having someone on, it's probably in a boardroom, not lovebombing a black guy over whatsapp. In many ways, they're the antithesis of Colombians. At the same time, I don't idealize them. I did say in my other post that Israelis in backpacker countries like Colombians tend to be crazed suicidal druggies.
>>2413782Yeah it's pretty much true, difference is, you motherfuckers come in expecting people to speak english and get surprised when you're treated the way you are lolhttps://youtu.be/Sc6BZ2wJ2WM
>>2414440Technically it's 4 day(return flight is on the 28th). Just need to get away in a different environment. Yeah it's 3rd world but I am somewhat fluent in Spanish so it might be interesting. Also I had PTO from last year set to expire so fuck that.
colombia is fine if you keep your wits about youif you know what shady shit looks like anywhere else on earth, you'll be able to identify and avoid it there too
>>2414444>I did say in my other post that Israelis in backpacker countries like Colombians tend to be crazed suicidal druggies.Backpacker countries like COLOMBIA* fuckColombians tend to be socially well-adjusted, not neurotic and high-strung like Jews are. I will give them that.
>>2413581I dislike latinas as that is what I am (not exotic for me). I prefer blacks, whites, arabs, Asians or poojeeta girls. However is my Mexican-American ass worth going to Colombia for? I work online so I can do it.
>>2414560In my opinion, it's not worth the risk. Like some else already mentioned, there's nothing you can find in Colombia that you can't find in another country. Even Mexico is a lot safer, if you stick to CDMX and the tourist areas in Yucatan. The beaches are also far superior. You need to be on your guard wherever you go in Latin America thoughever. I read in the news of a guy getting roofied on a date in Mexico, so it's not like it doesn't happen there either. The problem with Colombia is that an entire segment of the population has seemingly made it their profession to prey on tourists. Even as a Latino, you'll stick out to them. Something in the way you carry yourself will out you from a mile away.
What are my chances of getting a 9/10 colombiana to bring to the US? I am completely fine with her only wanting me for my money. I just require in return good sex on demand and maybe 2-3 kids.
>>2414577100 percent Getting her to stay with you is the hard part.
>>2414560I'm also a mexibro and frankly I would be paying to coom if I went to Colombia simply because I won't be exotic to the women there. On the plus side, we speak spanish so its easier to assess the situation and will blend in.
>>2414567you guys need to chill the fuck out. not all of us are idiots that go to bars and are white so we dont stick out like a sore thumb like you boomer chuds.
>>2414577>>2414585The real 200 IQ move is to stay with her in Colombia. Once she has a green card, she can leave you for chad, like any other girl in America. Other men will be hitting on her constantly. Some of them will be wealthier and more attractive than you. She can collect child support. If you're still in Colombia, you hold all the cards. She'll need to stay on her best behavior, because you could leave her for a younger, hotter girl at any moment.
>>2414438So they’re basically jeets but with charm?
A 61 year old Colombian girl from Medellin wants me to fly over to visit her. Should I do it? I want a Latina wife so bad. I am a white american guy who turns 29 in a month. or is this too taboo in Colombia? huge age gap considering she is a lot younger
>>2415125I assume you meant she's 16. It's not unheard of over there. The age of consent is 14. My 20 year old ex told me a guy who's 32 ran off with her 15 year old sister, this was like three months ago. It's worth mentioning that 16 is fair game in many parts of the United States. Personally, that's too young for me. I'm just pointing out the facts.
>>2415127I know it is legal over there. But I am just wondering if its taboo or not. Because I know even thought its legal in some states in the USA you would still have middle aged women bitch and moan and threaten to call the cops and give dirty looks in public to you. I would probably move to Colombia if I get in a serious relationship as I make 80k remote job and cannot even afford a house where I live in the USA. Its sad.
>>2415131I'd be more concerned that she's running game on you in some way. You have to consider that she might have a secret boyfriend, when you're talking to a Colombian girl as a foreign guy. It should be easy to figure out; private detectives are cheap and very efficient. They need to be ex-police in order to get a license, so they generally know what they're doing. If things get serious, you might want to consider it. Hopefully, she just wants to be with you because she thinks you're cute and she wants money and a green card. What I usually do is suggest that she post a picture of the two of us on her Instagram, and see how she takes it. It's better if you blindside her with this, not making any suggestion you want to make your relationship public beforehand. She'll be forced to come up with some bullshit excuse on the spot, and if you have half a brain, you'll see right through it. Because your girl is 16, I wouldn't recommend this for the sake of discretion. What if she does post a picture of the two of you? It's not a good idea.
>>2415137And no, just because she's 16 doesn't mean she's not playing games with you. Colombian kids grow up fast, because they have to. They live in a tough world. I've been on dates with girls who were camwhores at 18.
>>2415131>But I am just wondering if its taboo or not.To answer your question, it's not taboo, but I wouldn't go around advertising it either. Zoomers might find it unpleasant, but most older people will probably find it normal. You're still a young man. Many Colombian Gen Xers were raised in more traditional sorts of families, with lots of children and a father who is much older than the mother. As long as her parents are ok with it, you are all set. I'd hold off on marrying her until she's 18 though, to avoid awkwardness back home.
>>2413734they're closet beta males who spouted off the passport bro shit to colombia because the women there were easy. Now gringos there are seething because cali, bogota, medellin, etc are flooded with bald, & chubby gringos acting as "competiton" for easy latina women, the chubby gringos that were bald who were there for decades are upset because they are losing the exotic appeal.An easy fix would be to hop on roids and look like you workout in 1 year but people are pussies. More roids & slutty latinas for me.
>>2415146>the chubby gringos that were bald who were there for decades are upset because they are losing the exotic appeal.The real problem (for them) is that sex tourism has become popular even among young people these days. Hot guys from Northern Europe fly to places like Thailand and Colombia, since back home they're seen as subhuman because they're "only" 5'9".
I spent 5 months in Colombia in 2021 to fuck off from the US for a while during covid.I never had a problem (Cartagena, Barranquilla, and Santa Marta) but I asked like 10 people from each city which neighborhood I should stay in before booking an Airbnb.
>>2413724This is latam, you'll get shot. Just give them what they want.
>>2415151True. I knew a German man in Bogota. Bald and chubby, about 46. He'd keep asking me why I came, how am I doing with girls, with a look of anxiety in his eye. I'm assuming his tinder success rate has been dropping significantly since alot of younger Danes & swedes have been coming down here. Most of them average but I've noticed latinas like the ones with long blonde or light hair.
So whats the best way to get a GFE in Colombia? Looking to go out there and bang some chicks, but don't want to fuck street hoes. Want girl next door type thing. Any advice? I can't use dating apps since I'm latino and not white, so I don't get the exotic white premium.
>>2415233They don't give a fuck what race you are, as long as you're willing to spend on them one way or another. Money talks, bullshit walks. They swipe right on Asian guys, black guys, pajeets even. Anything foreign works for them, because a priori it means you have cash to spend. Just speak English in your bio. Remember:>vet their instagram before you meet, check for likes from other women and family>first date should be in broad daylight, no drinking>stay in an airbnb with front desk security vetting who comes in>if she's too aggressive in trying to get you to your place, it's a red flag>p4p price is 200k-300k pesos with freelancers who aren't gross. they will try to run game on you saying they charge 1 million per hour, just dismiss them politely and they'll change their tunepicrel isn't me by the way, I'm not as big a fool as all that
>>2415240based post anon, in agreement with you on all suggestions. i have glowie level instincts when it comes to women and i carry out glowie investigations when vetting a chick. whats the best place to actually find them tho? you think $300 for a full weekend is good? kinda just want a chick to chill with while im there, ya know? quality over quantity for me. also any intel on setting up a threesome? my fantasy is getting a bareback threesome even if i have to pay up. just need it to be safe sexually and need it to be safe to avoid getting shot or killed, but we've already covered that. kek
>>2415240If I wanted to good cooming opportunities while offering 200-300k COP with decent prospects, what dating apps do you recommend? I would rather go the p4p route to have things under my control.
>>2415240>>2415253>>2415262>what dating apps do you recommend?I stick to Tinder, Seeking, and Glambu. I never liked using Bumble, I don't bother with it. Tinder feels like a part-time job with all the trash you have to filter though, but sometimes it's worth it. If a girl on Tinder doesn't respond to my normal message, I ask her "Quieres tener una relacion donde ambos beneficiamos?"Seeking and Glambu are much more straightforward, they're sugar baby apps. I do 300k for a night out together with a happy ending, but I'm white, mid-20's, and not a completely hopeless case when it comes to women. It's just that I'm a manlet. I think that I grow on them after awhile, but it's dangerous to let yourself get attached. A couple more things>don't let them choose a taxi or a venue>ask the locals what the good neighborhoods and the shitholes are. stick to the good neighborhoods, avoid the shitholes>avoid ratchet women (too many tattoos, skank vibes)Colombia is a very judgmental, petit bourgeois society deep down. If a girl has abandoned all claim to respectability in her appearance, that's a red flag in and of itself. It means she lives her life with street trash. Those are girls you need to watch out for.
>>2415240>>2415253>>2415262>>2415274The sort of girl you want to be messing with can be mistaken for a normal woman if you don't look too closely. She likely has a job (she doesn't live 100% off whoring). She's businesslike in that she won't try to manipulate you for more money than you've agreed to, but tactful enough to make you forget that you're paying for it when you're with her. There's no bullshit, she knows what she gets out of it and doesn't try to play games for more (love manipulation or robbing). You in turn accept that it's p4p and avoid developing feelings other than friendship for her. That's what I'm looking for when I meet a new girl. You want to keep in touch with them so that you don't have to worry about getting murked every time you come back. Develop a harem of trusted girls to return to, that's how you get threesomes. You invite them over, do drugs with them and their friends, play music, and order food from Rappi. The nice thing about these girls is that they'll sometimes introduce you to other women you can trust. >avoid getting drugs and booze through contacts provided by womenA boomer coomer got scoped by a girl he'd been coming back and seeing for over a year. You can't be too trusting, try to keep them at arm's length. Friendzone them. Laugh and have a good time, practice your Spanish and party. But never trust them.
>>2415151>The real problem (for them) is that sex tourism has become popular even among young people these daysHave Tinder and IG really ruined things that badly? I understand why Americans do it, since American have a lot of money and cooming is expensive. But I would have thought that with EE prosties and their comparatively lower incomes, that Europeans would coom at home.
>>2415281Europe it’s more thanks to Fresh and Fit and Kurt Kaz shilling to bored Euro degens who actually get to have vacation time. There is nothing on this earth hype beasts and Instagram can’t destroy.That said, literally everywhere on earth will be heaven in regards to women if you are a burger.
>>2415281>I would have thought that with EE prosties and their comparatively lower incomes, that Europeans would coom at home.Young Euros who go to Colombia generally don't go for p4p. They go to party, and because they think dating will be easier. They sit in their hostels swiping Tinder. They haven't realized yet that "normal" dating in Colombia comes with its own set of problems.I had a very interesting 2022, and have come to the point where I'm finished with dating for now. Went out with a Euro camgirl who tried to hide it from me, and a Colombian one who revealed it because she clearly wasn't interested (I don't know which is worse). I was NOT going for camgirls. A Korean exchange student stood me up after SHE asked for a second date two days after our first one. My 10+ other first dates and situationships have crashed and burned in similar fashion.So right now I'm like the Weeknd:>I can't stand talkin' to brand new girls, only bitches down to fuck when you shower them with ones
>>2415274Brilliant. For the sake of efficiency which city is best when weighing quality vs quantity to do p4p? I have about 5 days in CO planned and am trying to judge between the major cities.
I spent winter 2020-2021 there. The paradox is, you are almost guaranteed to stay unscathed as long as you accept that you are never safe in public. Drug use has become epidemic on the streets of most cities. Theft is 10x more of a problem than here in Mexico. You can never really relax in public, even inside a restaurant. Trying to hook up is where most men fall victim to druggings and robbery; drug possession is decriminalized, so coke and weed are no biggie to the policia (although I have seen them using sniffer dogs at bus stations). They will confiscate it, lecture you, and move on. Colombian hostels are excellent, one of the few spaces in the country where you can let your guard down and make friends with strangers. I was never really fucked with down there, but that's because I was a raggedy, angry gringo who responded curtly to most friendly overtures. At the time I had absolutely nothing in the world besides a passport and a bank card, so I had a very hardass mindset.
>>2415317>For the sake of efficiency which city is best when weighing quality vs quantity to do p4p?Medellin, there's no question. Pros>Most attractive women in the country>More white girls than average in Colombia due to Basque settlement in the regionCons>You are most likely to get scoped here>The most unpredictable city, criminals go to rich areas looking for marks>Paisas are the most "Colombian" Colombians, they're the most smug, sycophantic, fake people in the entire countryBogotaPros>Biggest city in the country by far in terms of sheer numbers. >only city where the food scene isn't godawful (never go for food that isn't Latin or American in origin, Italian food in particular is dreadful)Cons>Awful weatherCaliPros>Some people are attracted by the salsa/cumbia scene>Cheap for a major cityCons>Extremely violent, even by Colombian standards>City has more of an African mixture (uglier girls)Cartagena/Santa MartaPros>Good party scenes, Cartagena more of a native one, Santa Marta more of a backpacker/expat beach bum hangout>Taganga and Tayrona near Santa Marta are the only beaches in the country that aren't polluted to shit due to coal>Good hostel scene in Santa MartaCons>African admixture>Santa Marta is 500k people, can't be considered a "major city"
>>2415274>>2415277>>2415324based colombia coomer bro. i think its time to start booking an airbnb.a few more questions for you if you don't mind brosephhow much difficulty have you had bringing various chicks to your airbnb without getting flagged by the host or front desk security? what sort of airbnb listing attributes should i be looking for to determine that cooming nightly (having people come in and out) won't be a problem?at what point in your discussions do you discuss bareback? during the initial open or after they get there and you guys are starting to do the deed? is it unheard of to ask chicks to get tests before showing up if you send them the money for the test? (part of me thinks that if you start sending a chick money before the deal, they are going to smell blood and gouge you for more money, so seems like a tricky situation)lastly, is there such thing as a more premium girl on these apps? i've been on seeking but have little experience actually talking to them. so maybe like a upper middle class college girl that just needs weekend money type of thing? im happy to doll out $300 a night here and there if the experience is worth it and the chicks are 8-9/10 and much more certain to be legit and friendly.
>>2415412Why would you bring chicks to your airbnb? Not only is that prohibited by the host, you expose yourself to robbery of your luggage. If she's DTF, go get a hotel room.
>>2415412>how much difficulty have you had bringing various chicks to your airbnb without getting flagged by the host or front desk security?The host might care, but security doesn't get paid enough to. Colombia is not a gay reddit sex prison where faggots sit around debating what men are allowed to do with consenting women. The locals are actually happy in life unlike Americans, the guard will limit himself to the duties of his job, that is to say limiting access to the building to residents and their guests only.
>>2415274how anonymous can you make a seeking profile? like, I'm assuming they require photos and shit>>2415277>She's businesslike in that she won't try to manipulate you for more money than you've agreed to, but tactful enough to make you forget that you're paying for it when you're with her. There's no bullshit, she knows what she gets out of it and doesn't try to play games for more (love manipulation or robbing). You in turn accept that it's p4p and avoid developing feelings other than friendship for her.tfw no
Heading to Medellin soon. How to find a solid taxi driver that can help me find things?
>>2413581Well I mean, as a Latin American from a safer country, the idea of going to Colombia seems truly boring since you can’t get out at night, or get in a taxi without being worried that you might die
>>2415782>How to find a solid taxi driver that can help me find things?As they say in Medellin, "eso es lo de menos" (that's the easy part). Download inDrive, it's what all the locals use instead of Uber. Uber is gay and can leave you waiting 30+ minutes for a ride. It's also more expensive. inDrive allows you to set your own price. You put a lowball one of 10,000 pesos, and within seconds there are three guys sending you a counteroffer for a ride. Never pay more than 20,000 pesos for a ride, unless you are driving across the city. I took a 1+ hour long inDrive from Sabaneta to Bello, and it only cost 30,000 pesos (which is $6). This was three months ago. Never pay more, even though locals will try to run game on you the way Colombians always do. I don't even know how they can live off what they make doing rideshares, considering many drivers don't even own the cars they drive around. They pay rent to the owner, not to mention gas. I really don't recommend visiting Bello, by the way. Manrique too. Those are the two most notorious shitholes in Medellin, but it's not an exhaustive list. It's a yellow flag if a girl says she's from there. inDrive can save your life if it's late at night and you need a ride. You can offer an extravagant amount (50,000 pesos) and drivers will pick you up even at 4:30am. Nobody uses Uber so you're gonna be waiting forever to get a ride if you use it.
>>2415782Anyway, to answer your question, just make small talk to the driver, especially if you speak Spanish. Go in the front seat if you are alone, since chances are you will not be able to use a seatbelt if you sit in the back (they tear them out, I don't know why). They will generally be amenable to this, as rideshares are technically illegal, though everyone uses them. If you're riding in the back by yourself it's a dead giveaway. inDrive allows you to choose among a list of options for drivers, so try to pick younger ones who don't look too sketchy (inDrive is pretty safe, taxis are what's sketchy, except for the official airport shuttles). If you ask for their WhatsApp number after small talk, saying you'd like a trusted driver to take you around while you're there, they will always give it to you if you pay well ("well" being 50,000 pesos instead of 20,000 pesos on a ride). Once you've charmed him for 30 minutes in Medellin traffic and he gives you his number, you can ask where to find things.
>>2415412>lastly, is there such thing as a more premium girl on these apps?The girls on Seeking and Glambu are the premium girls. The trashy ones hang around in Provenza after dark and walk up to you in Parque Lleras. They're the sketchy girls on Tinder. I've made a fake FB account for cooming purposes, under a fake name that's believable. If someone calls you your real name, just say your pseudo is your middle name and you go by it. Your pictures need to be real, though. This is so girls can decide whether or not they'll let you do p4p in the first place. I have a set of pictures I use for cooming and on no other social media, so that they can't be reverse image searched. That way, I can disappear if someone tries to baby trap me. It probably wouldn't be mine in the first place. Anyway, you ask for girls' Facebooks and Instagrams on Tinder and add them with your fake account. Set your friends list to "Only Me" so it looks less sketchy. Once you have a few friends added, go through their friends lists and start friending girls. If they accept, ask if they're willing to do an arrangement with the line I posted above. Now that you've got a few friends added, Faceberg's algorithm will see you're into Colombian girls and your feed will suggest new ones for you to add. Like I said before, the best ones for this don't live off whoring. It's when you start messing with people who are desperate and sketchy that you face real danger. No matter who you're with, keep an eye on your drink.
Have my flight booked for medellin for end of this month. Do I stay in Laureles or Poblado? Pros and cons for each?
>>2415789>>2415790Thanks. Unfortunately I don't speak much Spanish yet. Hope I can pick up on some while I'm there. I guess the plan will be to use inDrive from the airport to airbnb, pay a generous sum, and see if he can hook me up after small talk with broken English/google translate.
>>2413666wtf is wrong with guys shilling colombia to make $80 of youtube revenue while causing 200% inflation
>>2414250anyone who went to colombia 10+ years ago knows thisall the attractive women and intelligent people have left and it's a cesspit nowsure there are still some decent women but it's nowhere near as good as it used to be
>>2414365the hot women left the countrydid you not consider that possibility lmao
>>2415125you're probably talking to a dude who is planning to rob you lol
>>2415795On an tangentially related note sage of cooming, are you still in Colombia? Or have you moved on from there? Seems like heaven on earth and I'm curiius if the lifestyle has longevity.
>>2415805i prefer laureles, it's a nice quiet area with less crimepoblado is closer to the parties but you can get a taxi there pretty easily
>>2415843I find 3 months in a row is the longest I like to spend cooming, eventually it becomes unfulfilling
>>2415818Ok, I'll bite. where did they go?
>>2415815>>2415818If you mean the low tier of hookers that you'd run into in places like Lleras or La Isla has been replaced, for the most part, by Venezuelans, then sure. But there are still quality girls in the country. >the hot women left the countryWhere did they go? The United States is the country with the most Colombian expatriates by far, and it barely has 1 million. Colombia is a country of 50 million people. The thing about Colombians is that they can't stand the American way of life. They stay because they work for a living, and if you're gonna be digging ditches, it's far better to do it in America. These are jobs for men, like construction. The blue collar jobs that pay well enough to justify staying are for men. Women are likely to end up as cleaning ladies or waitresses. Even if they have the right to work in this country, their qualifications are worthless: I've seen psychologists and engineers reduced to waiting tables. Colombians live a city life. They're not used to surburban hell, it drives them crazy. I've seen more than one woman leave her husband and return home. They get depressed being cooped up in the middle of winter. Go to work, drive home, watch TV, go to sleep. Rinse and repeat ad nauseum. Maybe you see your friends twice a month. Colombians don't live that way. They see their friends multiple times a week. American-style suburbs are for the upper middle class down there. Just getting an interview for a tourist visa is booked out a year in advance. Once you get it, you'll have to prove you're more or less middle class, and therefore unlikely to remain in the country. 80% of women don't meet this qualification. If they did, they wouldn't be whores in the first place. If they're here, it's because they've married their way into the country. Besides, new women reach maturity every day in Colombia. It would take an apocalyptic event for them to run out of hot girls.
>>2416092>>2416075europe has some organised pimps recruiting girls to countries like Spain where they can get a visa easilythere is big money coming from the middle east too where guys are building harems
This nigga's in Colombia now, I wonder what he'll get up to. I'd be shocked if nothing happens to him in Venezuela. He doesn't exactly keep a low profile.
>>2416093I don't think it's as bad as you describe. Less than half a million Colombians live in Spain. Half of those are men. Even if we assume a third of Colombian women are whores, that's still only like 50k. Colombian girls aren't streetwalkers anymore it's true, that's mostly Venezuelans now. They aren't going to be loitering in slutty outfits at Parque Lleras for everyone they know to realize what they do.
>>2416124they just took the best girls. you can still get 8/10 but 10/10s are very rare now
>>2414186Vennies are more whiter and hotter on average than most colombians
>>2414411I am sorry but I never understood the mentality of going to place like Thailand or Colombia, the meccas of prime slave cunny, in order to fuck entitled bitchy coddled westoid hostal slags that are 10x the effort of locals
>>2414419I dont understand why the fuck anyone would go to a place like colombia if not for cooming. Want cheap accomodation? Its not even cheap anymore, go to Spain or Mexico for better lifestyle and beaches. Women? They are hot but not worth getting mugged or scolped, again go to aforementioned countries. Whores aren't even that cheap anymore and putas know they can charge more to naive gringos or now literal whores are going on gynocentric dates because puafags who watch fresh and fit that think they are above pay for play will wine and dine a single mom prostitute and now she will charge more or not whore herself out. Not worth it anymore
>>2414435>The single mother thing is true too but quite honestly I found that endearing in comparison to the graveyard of the modern woman’s womb.This, they create more putas for white men to coom in and the demographics stay stable and pussy hyperinflation doesn't take place
>>2414500Its these videos that don't want to make me visit colombia, way too many normies and puafags are shilling it. Even my normie friends were talking about ughh. I would rather just do mexico at this point plus the safety situation. I would feel like your typical gringo over there
>>2416124They girls that would ahve been willing to play are either gone from teh country or they are pulling plenty of money on instagram and onlyfans from beta bux (they get offers of plane tickets all the time). The world is very different than it was ten years ago. Also they can fly to Europe without a visa at all.
>>2414577Absolutely do not do this. She will divorce rape you in 2 years as this was her intention all along, happens all the time. Some e thot streamer I forgot the name of did this to some beta schmuck. Its such a low T move dude dont have kids and wife especially with these conniving latinas
>>2415131>>2415137>>2415139Shit like this is why I just pay for play kek.
>>2415146based and looksmaximus pilled, I fucking hate puafags and these passport bro niggers. Just pay for whores and smash, these closet simps are ruining it for everybody
>>2415151Most Chads and even normies aren't doing stuff like this, at least in the US. In my experience with Americans they are very low inhib and are the ultimate cucks and jesters for their women
>>2415233Seeking arrangements or just find a puta who offers it, very easy
>>2415240>pic relIts over, simps completely ruined Medellin.
>>2415151Everyone calls swedes cucks but they are the only groups of men that take advantage of their nordic genes by geomaxxing and bringing thai wives back to their countries. Must be the viking in them. Meanwhile you have americans with their retarded amounts of money wageslaving for fat entitled 30 body count holes or dutch with 6'5" gigamogger genes slaving away in their gynocentric prison cells
>>2415288>That said, literally everywhere on earth will be heaven in regards to women if you are a burger.Euros (besides anglos and swedes) will never the pussy prison hellscape that is the Jewnited States. Even having legalized prostitution is a massive game changer. I hate it here bros
>>2415311>oung Euros who go to Colombia generally don't go for p4p. They go to party, and because they think dating will be easier. They sit in their hostels swiping Tinder. They haven't realized yet that "normal" dating in Colombia comes with its own set of problems.Take the androcentric pill, only whoremaxx and never date
Serious question but whats the actual point of going somewhere dangerous like Medellin when theres other places that aren't even that much more expensive and much safer overall that offer the same girls and experience?
>>2415795Damn anon solid advice, even boomer coomers on ISG dont dish out this kind of gold
>>2416153Colombians pop out babies every minute there will never be shortage of hot girls
>>2415131>I know it is legal over there.Doesn't matter. There are laws against Americans going abroad for underage prostitution (18). If you're a US citizen, they can come after you (if they want to). I remember reading news about one schmuck who had an underage staying with him. THey decided that the free rent and food constituted "payment" so they sent him to prison.
>>2416340America is the most cucked place on the planet
>>2416324>theres other places that aren't even that much more expensive and much safer overall that offer the same girls and experiencesuch as...(Mexico is great but significantly more expensive)
>>2416315>Most Chads and even normies aren't doing stuff like this, at least in the US.Definitely not all, but enough. There's a new generation of sex tourists who aren't decrepit old men. I run into them all the time when I'm in Colombia. Young guys in their mid to late 20's who stay in the country at least medium-term. There's nothing wrong with them, but women have impossible standards these days thanks to simping and the normalization of Tinder. I notice I'm always running into 5'9 Danish, Norwegian, and German guys in their mid-20's in Medellin. In America, they'd be Chadlite. You talk to them, and they're sociable enough, even if they tend to be on the introverted side. I've come to realize they're the runts of the litter back home. True European Chads are rare. Young Americans are also more rare, but they do exist. The upshot of all this is that competition is stiffer, it's not enough just to be foreign these days with a US pension. The sex tourism subculture has definitely widened in appeal in recent years. >>2416324I keep telling anyone who will listen to go to Mexico instead. Sometimes people need to learn lessons for themselves. A Dutch girl was telling me how she was walking around Medellin in the middle of the night with her girlfriends. I told her she should inDrive everywhere, and she just shrugged it off. I wish I had the confidence of a mediocre White woman. As long as people ask questions here, I feel compelled to help them for their safety, and because too many clueless foreigners are ruining the scene. I'm fortunate enough to have begun going to Colombia in my teens during the mid-2010's. Zoomers will never know how carefree it was to be young was in those days.
>>2416033>i prefer laureles, it's a nice quiet area with less crimeMarginally less crime. One case of scopolamine poisoning is reported every week in Laureles alone. That's just the ones who bothered reporting it. It's well known that the police won't do a fucking thing in most cases. You're right that it's more quiet. Noise pollution is not a concept that exists in Colombia. People might play music that can be heard across the entire block on a weeknight. If you try calling the police like you might in America, they'll laugh in your face. If they're smart, they'll pay you lip service and do nothing. You could get into trouble trying to shut down the wrong party in Colombia. During COVID they tried enforcing gay lockdowns like in other countries. Police came to shut down parties, and the locals weren't afraid to fight them off. If they're not afraid to fight the police, who can crack skulls with impunity, they're not afraid of you. So yes, if you're a remote worker, I'd say you're better off staying in Laureles. If your neighbors have a penchant for throwing ragers on a Tuesday, there's nothing you can do. That's much more likely to happen in Poblado. >>2416291Not the ones you'll find whoring in Medellin.
>>2416362>I notice I'm always running into 5'9 Danish, Norwegian, and German guys in their mid-20's in Medellin. In America, they'd be Chadlite. You talk to them, and they're sociable enough, even if they tend to be on the introverted side. I've come to realize they're the runts of the litter back home. True European Chads are rare. Young Americans are also more rare, but they do exist.American women are much more cuntier and pickier than European women, those countries still have relatively thin women. In America women are extremely cunty, masculine, promiscious, and literally only care about status and height/looks. I give credit to euro men they have balls to geomaxx, the eurocuck meme isn't true americans are the biggest wetblankets when it comes to saying no to their women.
>>2413722>sketchy dudes who look like they’re starving to deathTon of starving Venezuelans all over Colombia now. Americans destroyed their country with sanctions so they probably view all gringos as fair targets. How does it feel walking around with a bulls eye on your back?
>>2416362>I keep telling anyone who will listen to go to Mexico instead. Sometimes people need to learn lessons for themselves. A Dutch girl was telling me how she was walking around Medellin in the middle of the night with her girlfriends. I told her she should inDrive everywhere, and she just shrugged it off. I wish I had the confidence of a mediocre White woman.What the fuck is the appeal of going to Medelin as a western women? >As long as people ask questions here, I feel compelled to help them for their safety, and because too many clueless foreigners are ruining the scene. I'm fortunate enough to have begun going to Colombia in my teens during the mid-2010's. Zoomers will never know how carefree it was to be young was in those days.I fucking hate being a zoomer. Seriously man everywhere I look everyone says x place sucks now, whores are more expensive, OF ruining market, etc. It makes me depressed, I fucking hate puafags and simps so much. Is there literally any hope things will get better? Will AI porn put these ewhores out of work? Dudes will always simp but I refuse to believe this pussy hyperinflation can last this long something has to give. Men always find alternatives
>>2415808>I guess the plan will be to use inDrive from the airport to airbnb, pay a generous sum, and see if he can hook me up after small talk with broken English/google translate.The airport is the one place I'd recommend you go with an official taxi, as opposed to inDrive. Taxi drivers in the country hate rideshare drivers with a passion. They're always lobbying the government to ban the apps, but too many people depend on them for a living for this to be practical. Officially, being a rideshare driver is illegal, but in practice everyone does it, and nobody gets in trouble. Even if rideshare drivers are caught, transit police are venal and can be bribed to the tune of 150,000 pesos. Locals hate taxis because they turn down rides, refuse to go to sketchy neighborhoods, refuse rides if they're too cheap, etc. They're huge faggots. Sometimes they go on strikes and block all the roads in entire cities, demanding a crackdown on rideshare apps. Cars don't use Uber stickers like in America, because taxi drivers have been known to beat up rideshare drivers. (1/2)
>>2415808>>2416379The airport is the one place anti-rideshare laws are actually enforced, as a sop to the taxi drivers. Recently the police came and arrested all rideshare drivers in a major airport. If you are entering Medellin from Rionegro Airport, ask the airport employees or police where the official taxi vans are. Exiting baggage claim, guys will come up to you and say taxi, just ignore them. The market rate for a ride to Medellin from Rionegro Airport is 70,000 pesos. Sometimes they will insist on 100,000 pesos, but don't go any higher. Taxi drivers are fucking hardheaded and I can't be bothered to argue with them over $6. You need to tell them to take the toll road through the tunnel into Medellin. It's heavily surveilled and a lot safer than other routes, which they will try to cheap out and take you on. Say you will pay the tolls (it's 20,000 pesos). The toll route was created because locals know what the roads are into the city from the airport. Criminal gangs hunt for inbound foreigners in packs on the back of motorcycles. This is why you DON'T share the specifics of your itinerary with locals. I know a Colombian guy who got his green card after 20+ years of living illegally in the United States. He planned a big homecoming, since he had done well in America and hadn't seen his parents or the people he grew up with for so long. He came with gifts for everyone and expensive clothes. Word got around and someone tipped off a local gang. They came on two motorcycles and a car. He arrived barefoot at his mother's house, and never returned to Colombia. (2/2)
>>2416367I've found dating is equally difficult in Northern Europe. When people talk about how much better Euro women are than American ones, it's really Med women they're talking about. In Med countries, the average height is like 5'8, and manlets have an easy time dating. In the Netherlands, the average height is 6'1. That means half the men are taller than 6'1. Imagine how fucked you are if you're 5'9 there. It's similar in other countries.
>>2416385Thank god dutch are mostly cucks to their women, imagine if they those moggers realized the power they had
>>2416371>Men always find alternativesjust go to papua new guinea bro
>>2416382you can get a collectivo taxi for 20-30k pesos too if you dont mind sharing
>>2416415I was talking in terms of fleshlights, porn, sexdolls, ai, vr, etc.
>>2416362Say a novice coomer such as myself decides to stay in Medellin to coom for a little over a week with an $8000 budget. In between the cooming scene, there would be interest in doing some tourist activities a few days during the trip, but there is a an emphasis in eating good food and cooming with premium talent at least once a night. What is the most secure place in the city to store belongings? Airbnb vs Business Hotel? Which ATMs should be utilized to withdraw money? Brothels or incalls?How would go about finding a tour guide that won't screw you over?
>>2413581Yesterday they just killed a Swedish dude that was exercising on one of the hills (Tres Cruces. Did a few hikes there myself). Apparently three guys were robbing him and he tried to fight back. Not very smart. First foreign murder of the year. Last year there were twenty-five foreigners murdered.Anybody know if they ever caught the gang that killed the Vietnamese guy from California back in November? THey had the picture of the chick (his tinder date) and everything but don't remember seeing any follow up.
>>2416371>I fucking hate being a zoomer. Seriously man everywhere I look everyone says x place sucks nowIktf, anon. I can't fucking imagine the state this shithole planet is going to be in even ten years from now. Since so much of sex is about validation, I don't think AI or anything it going to make the problem go away. If anything, things are going to get worse as more countries develop a middle-class, the technology to streamline women to Chads and simp-bux improves, and more women get fat.
>>2416582If western style giga hypergamy spreads across the world we are doomed. Unless we come up with hyper realistic sex bots and hyper realistic worker drones the world is gonna collapse
>>2413581>Is Colombia really that unsafe?No.This board is full of retarded Americans who think going to Mexico is a dangerous expedition even though millions of Americans do it every year.
>>2416370Colombia is dangerous as fuck for small-time robberies. Even just outside the Tourist nightlife center, or in broad daylight after a soccer game. The Venezuelans who have flooded the country have a high degree of desperation and dont follow the cartel having a monopoly on violence. If you got to Mexico.. You are super safe outside of the cartel hot zones where they don't want tourists poking their nose. In Colombia the "safe" areas all need well armed police patrolling to keep pickpockets and hawkers from harassing people. There are a LOT of good things about Colombia but it's vastly overrated for what it is.
>>2416362So I actually would prefer Mexico all things considered, but I feel like Colombian chicks are hotter and less competition (I feel like there is more money in Mexico so higher prices).Do you agree? Do you think there's hotter chicks in Colombia and by how much do you think? (I say this because Seeking profiles in Colombia are way better than Mexico profiles.
>>2416784There are a lot of hot Colombian chicks who have moved to Mexico City already (where you're right, there's more money). If you see hot chicks in Mexico there's a good chance they're Colombian.Colombians can travel freely to Mexico so that was never a problem.There's even a Mercado Medellín in CDMX! Check it out!
>>2416784>I feel like Colombian chicks are hotter and less competition (I feel like there is more money in Mexico so higher prices).All of this is true. Unlike Colombia, Mexico is a country with an actual economy. Since NAFTA, there's been an explosion in US investment. Some parts of the country have a cost of living similar to that of the US. Mexican girls are less hot than Colombian ones, it's true. But there are tradeoffs. CDMX mogs Bogota in every possible way: weather, nightlife, food scene, cultural offerings. I am appalled by the lack of culture in Colombia. Colombians are philistines. They live hand to mouth, only caring about getting more money into their pocket, next week's trip to the finca, blowing a load in the neighbor's wife. As an educated white man who has been all over the world, I have nothing in common with them. That's why I can't bring myself to stay in the country long term. I get so fucking lonely. This despite the fact that I'm surrounded by people, especially women. I can't relate to the locals at all. They are like a higher order of animals, only concerned with when their next meal or their next rut is taking place. That's why I can't live without Gringo Tuesdays. People think I'm a homo because I talk to other foreigners and ignore the local skanks at "language exchanges." It's just that I'm so utterly deprived of the company of people whose interests are not limited to fulfilling the base urges of their animalistic flesh prison. The Austrian guy with a CS degree backpacking through Colombia is much more desirable company to me than the ugly Venezuelan whore I see making out with another foreigner every week. Especially when I have three much prettier girls who I can have deepthroating me at a moment's notice. Colombians don't understand this. For all their cunning, Colombians are very simple people. If you have anything other than the most basic motivations as a human being, they cannot understand you.
>>2416842That's because you're talking about low class Colombians, who are the only ones who would have anything to do with foreigners like you.
>>2416813>>2416842Whenever I run into elite Mexicans, I'm always astounded by their refinement and sophistication. Unlike Colombia, Mexico is a country wealthy enough to support a class of people like this. The only people with wealth in Colombia are landowners and narcos. Anyone who's ever owned a farm will tell you it's a shit way to get rich. The food scene is trash simply because there is a lack of people who are able to appreciate good food. It's like this in Bogota, the most cosmopolitan city in the country by far. Medellin is a backwater compared to those two. If the girls weren't so attractive and the locals so fond of partying, no one would ever go there, because there would be nothing worth visiting. >>2416433>Anybody know if they ever caught the gang that killed the Vietnamese guy from California back in November?If there's no news, it means she hasn't been caught. She'll probably hide out in another city until the police loses interest, and then return to her ordinary life. >>2416719Very true post. In Mexico, the cartel was smart enough to invest in the tourist trade, and keeps the peace in areas frequented by foreigners. You could probably make a libertardian joke about the private sector being more efficient than government, but I'm not going to. >>2416845Did I offend you, Pedro?
>>2416842Mexibro here. Really good breakdown. I had the same experience when going to Colombia. There was def something lacking culturally and I could never really put my finger on it. I would have a much better time in Mexico, women aside, but women in mind, Colombia is much more appealing. But hey, just because the women are hotter in Colombia doesn't mean there are no hot chicks in Mexico. Was planning on Colombia, but going to rethink CDMX hard because I can relate to that place so much fucking more.
>>2416919Colombia food sucks. The only thing the people of colombia know is decades of struggle since more than half the country is internally displaced.
>>2413735Especially in the nice parts
>>2413799I am Colombian and if I had a chance I would stab you in the throat and steal your dollars you gringo malparido carechimba
>>2416291>Vennies are more whiter and hotter on average than most colombiansThey are literally the same shit with slightly different accent you stupid shitcunt
>>2416433Hahaha swedefag got wacked by Colombian niggers. Perfect
>>2416676t. RealTraveler™fuck off faggot
>>2415805Stay in bello faggot
>>2416957You're the one who tried to scam me, saying you had a girl for me lmaooWhat is it about colombians that makes them such desperate losers? Other poor countries aren't like this
>>2416966We are cursed by an indio/nigger spell put on us by the Jew masons back in the independency times
>>2416296Fresh and Fit somehow managed to do as much damage as Tik Tok. And yes, I am the original Fresh and Fit poster in this thread and will continue posting about them.
>>2413581Why the heck would they shoot a random girl?https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/british-mans-girlfriend-gunned-down-25079503His girlfriend has been identified locally as Anna Tinterova, a 25-year-old from the Czech Republic.She was found dead at the roadside on Friday in a rural area of Jardin known as La Salada, a two-and-a-half-hour drive south of Medellin.
>>2416296>puafags who watch fresh and fit that think they are above pay for play will wine and dine a single mom prostitute and now she will charge more or not whore herself outHas this actually had an impact on the country or is this hyperbole? I have trouble believing there are enough people with the ability to go to Colombia for an extended period of time to actually simp the women that hard.
>>2414560Didnt you post some pic of you in some jacket wth reddit tier patches all over it, talking about how you got a swedish girl, and how you keep a list of all the people you've had sex with?
So traveling to Colombia to hike is basically suicide right?I don't care about cooming, I just want to hike alone and chill with mama nature, is it even possible in south america?
>>2416303It's fine if you want to travel and not coom all the time it's genuinely a beautiful country and there's much to see but like you said yeah these fags ruined some of it, at least they're not in my city because there's not much to do in anyway lol
>>2417074Hiking alone (particularly near cities) is not a good idea. If you're going to hike, go with friends or go with a guide. There are beautiful places in Colombia and usually you'll need or want a guide anyway to find them. Most pueblos will have a tour guide who can take you hiking, just ask around. If there's a hostel in the town there will be some infrastructure for hikes and stuff.Locals/guides will know about the security situation which is always changing. There are common criminals but also narcos disputing territory and then you've got the guerrillas.Stay smart and it should be safe enough.
>>2417074>>2417288>Hiking alone (particularly near cities) is not a good idea.I know of a 6'3 German guy who went up a hill by himself near the city of Cali. On his way down, he was mugged by a group of guys wearing balaclavas. Apparently, the local police knew of them and did nothing. Cali has a dreadful reputation for violence even among Colombians, and to top it all off the women are not as attractive. I don't know why some people prefer it. >>2416978Somebody was probably trying to coerce her into a second location, and she refused. I don't know why that idiot was letting his woman go out alone. If I had a white girlfriend, I'd be with her 24/7 in Colombia. They are shifty little bastards, and dream of clapping white cheeks. It's all the same to them if a woman is single or not. They will make passes at her shamelessly. Because the local women are so beautiful and only have mediocre guys to choose from, even mid Colombian guys have Chad levels of confidence.
>>2417034It affects the rates the whores charge and westoids willingness to simp due to their christ cuck worshipping of women has them making money just for existing and not even fucking these dudes
>>2416326The best part of making a FB for cooming is that you can join expat coomer groups to keep up with new trends and other bullshit. For example, I met a girl on Medellin Tinder in 2021. I had a harem of cuter girls, so even though we talked I never ended up asking her out. I did add her on Facebook. A year later, I joined a few MDN coomer groups right before a trip out of boredom. Lo and behold, this girl was friends with like 20 other dudes whose profiles I scrolled over randomly. I looked her up on ChicaCheck.co, and it looks like she's a literal prostitute. Her entry even had nudes of her. She never gave me any indication of this whatsoever. Because I'm young, I might have been forgiven for thinking we talked because she liked me. I can't even imagine going out with a fucking whore without knowing. Imagine putting a ring on that, disgusting. >>2417692>their christ cuck worshipping of women has them making money just for existing and not even fucking these dudesMany such cases
>>2417692Or PUA fanboys who try "spitting game" for a week, get blueballed because that shit doesn't work well, and overpay for a pro. PUAs are a fucking menace that serve mainly to Americanize women and ruin the cooming.
>>2417074Parts of Argentina would be fine to hike in. Very little chance of violence unless you're walking around with a brief case of US dollars so I have heard. Stay away from Rosario though and its surrounding area. Supposedly a new cartel shipping hub.
>>2417034>I have trouble believing there are enough people with the ability to go to Colombia for an extended period of timeA lot of them don't ever even step foot there, they just send money.
>>2417700>A year later, I joined a few MDN coomer groups right before a trip out of boredom. Lo and behold, this girl was friends with like 20 other dudes whose profiles I scrolled over randomly.>I looked her up on ChicaCheck.co, and it looks like she's a literal prostitute. Her entry even had nudes of her. She never gave me any indication of this whatsoever. Because I'm young, I might have been forgiven for thinking we talked because she liked me. I can't even imagine going out with a fucking whore without knowing. Imagine putting a ring on that, disgusting.I hate this new trend of passport bros and "geomaxxing" or whatever. Both groups of dysgenic retards who belive in idyliic disney love thinking they will find their le trad disbey waifu and end up simping and validating the first whore they see. Its disgusting, I have been a monger for a long time and these fucking faggots are ruining it for everyone. If you think women are fundamentally different you are retarded, just use them for pleasure and be done.
>>2417708https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNttiuddy6E&t=489sVid related will forever be the goat, rip barbarossa. But yeah puafags and american men in general need to be banned from travelling. Biggest cucks and simps on the planet who can only receive validation from life through an adhd coddled liberated roastie thot "choosing" to have sex with them because they all have single mothers. Even euros are not cucks at least they have cheap whores and legalized prostitution.
>>2417700>The best part of making a FB for cooming is that you can join expat coomer groups to keep up with new trends and other bullshit.>For example, I met a girl on Medellin Tinder in 2021. I had a harem of cuter girls, so even though we talked I never ended up asking her out. I did add her on Facebook.>A year later, I joined a few MDN coomer groups right before a trip out of boredom. Lo and behold, this girl was friends with like 20 other dudes whose profiles I scrolled over randomly.>I looked her up on ChicaCheck.co, and it looks like she's a literal prostitute. Her entry even had nudes of her. She never gave me any indication of this whatsoever. Because I'm young, I might have been forgiven for thinking we talked because she liked me. I can't even imagine going out with a fucking whore without knowing. Imagine putting a ring on that, disgusting.From all the lurking I have done on telegram and ISG it seems that facebook is solely for putas and hobby whores. Not surprised all of the normalfags who got recommened a "DOOD COLOMBIA IS SO EBIC BRO YOU ARE A GOD HERE DOOD GURLS ARE SO HOT REDPILL COMPILATION" are now giant simps who wine and dine these roasties and get scolped. Fuck Colombia and fuck Medellin, it was a shithole city to begin with whose only purpose was young hot cheap whores. It has outlived itself, I just go to Spain or Mexico or if I feel kind of adventerous one day will try Brazil, Cuba, Ecuador, or Central America. Spain literally has all of the hottest colombian girls now anyway and you can get them for relatively cheap prices, medellin whores who are hot are charging arms and legs now anyway its not that much cheaper 70 euros for half hour compared to like 60 in colombia, even then service is comparable and honestly if you factor in safety and whatnot and level of service it is more worth it in Spain. I am older monger/coomer and I can see why it was nice in the beginning as you could get the "gfe" as being an exotic white dude (1)
>>2417780... (or western guy) but those days are over with oversaturation and the internet. Nothing Colombia offers cooming wise is better than anywhere else (facebook girls are nice tho and once you built rapport can rawdog) but I would rather once again do aforementioned countries or SEA. Again for strict cooming purposes I guess Medellin is still good but these factors really killed it. I have heard disdain towards "weekend warriors" but truthfully I would not want to ever live in that dangerous shithole or anywhere in latin america for a long period of time. At least brazil and mexico have nice wealty areas free of crime, colombia is a dangerous even in the richest parts
>>2417783As an aside where in Spain would you recommend a fledgling coomer go for the Colombians? Are they in brothels or escorts?
>>2417780Redpill me on how to get cuties in Mexico. I speak spanish.
>>2417780>it seems that facebook is solely for putas and hobby whores.You can also follow local pages/groups for safety updates. This is especially useful if you're in Mexico and plan on traveling into the sticks. The cartel will generally leave foreigners alone, but outside the tourist bubble, Mexico is as dangerous as anywhere else. Case in point: the feds arrested a local kingpin, so narcos set up roadblocks in a major town for a day or two to flex their muscles. They spread the word, but a foreigner would have no way of knowing, unless he followed relevant FB groups. And yes, you can have your drink spiked in Mexico as well. It's just less likely.
>>2417800Barcelona or Madrid. Barcelona in my experience has better quality tho imo. I am talking about mongering btw, not "getting it for free". You can try tinder or better seeking arrangements and you can fish for some really good quality>>2418195Seeking Arrangments in CDMX is a godsend. Guadalajera is also a good city as a gringo. They are relatively safe (at least compared to the cesspit that is Medellin)
>>2418254I duno bro. I struggle with CDMX Seeking, girls just aint that hot fr fr. What's your typical PPM? You think there's any high quality chicks that would be up for a GFE type thing for a weekend?
>>2418282Latin girls use Glambu, not so much Seeking Arrangement
>>2418254Guadalajera wasn't as safe as CDMX. Apparently its more frequented by cartel types. Generally there won't be too much dangerous action but you might brush up more with cartel types.
>>2417755>A lot of them don't ever even step foot there, they just send money.C'est fini
When you guys go on coom trips, is it satifying or does it end just making you more depressed in the end? Assume that I'm not a virgin, just been in a dry spell.
>>2415146whats it like living life through your dick
>>2416842whats it like being 20% white
>>2418730It’s life affirming, makes me feel alive. Watch this guy to never feel bad about cooming again. Scrolls down to his “you wouldn’t pay for cunny?” video to start https://www.bitchute.com/channel/qePAzEJRyVuv/
>>2418730At least for me, it does get old. 4-5 days is just about perfect, I go home feeling like a new man. Still struggling to figure out pacing and ideal coom/non-coom activity balance for longer trips.
>>2418772Yeah, then I think it might be right for me. Having a hard time banging quality chicks in the US. Always match with hogs on dating apps with the ocassional cutie. I've been in a dry spell lately and its starting to get to me. Just need a "refuel" if you will. I'm thinking of doing 2 weeks in CDMX after combing through this thread (was initially going to do Bogota, but you guys spooked me out it, which is sad because I find Colombian chicks on Seeking to be so much hotter).>>2418745>life affirmingThis phrase resonates with me in this context.
Has anyone here ever asked a Mexican or Colombian girl to get tested before meeting?
>>2419406Don't be silly. Even girls who take money for sex would be livid if you called them prepagos (which they are). Humans are irrational creatures. It's emotional intelligence 101. Being a man and accepting that there are risks to sleeping with whores is always gonna be a part of mongering. There's a chance you might get herpes even if you wear a condom. Even if she hands you an HIV negative test that came out yesterday, there's a three month waiting period: if she got it within the last 90 days, the results are worthless. If you sleep with girls with standards, that is to say girls who look like respectable women at first glance, you'll probably be ok. Gringo coomers go for the most disgusting women in Medellin and wonder why bad things happen to them.
I live in Bogotá. You'll be ok.
>>2419414I want to coom but am worried about things like herpes. Realistically what are the odds?Would hate to get an STI from my very first whore and have it for the rest of my life
>>2419455You'll be fine. Once you've been hitting it for a while, say you'd like to start doing it raw and you'll pay for her to get tested. That's the way it goes. On the other hand, don't insist on getting a $40 hooker tested just to sleep with her once. That's foolish. If you're gonna do it, be a man and accept there are potential consequences.
>>2419462thanks for the words anon
Signs of intelligent life in colombia sexpat group
>>2419455With the exception of herpes, all the other stds are manageable with drugs or vaccines. Get your fucking HPV vaccines ffs. And as long she isn’t having an active outbreak and you shower/pee immediately after, your odds are low.
>>2419500You can take pills to manage herpes outbreaks if they're that serious. Like 40% of people who have it don't even know they do. A disease without symptoms. Of course, if you get it and it turns into recurring outbreaks for you then that sucks.
>>2418787Cdmx chicks much more likely to sleak English to ease language gap.
>>2419508This is true. The level of English is shockingly bad in Colombia. You see "educated" people like lawyers all the time who can't speak a word of it, or any other foreign language. People shit on American education, but at least we learn languages. If anyone has an excuse not to learn a foreign language, it's Americans. English is the global lingua franca. We have our dumbasses, but educated Americans speak all sorts of languages: Arabic, Japanese, Russian. Often not even without an economic incentive, but because it interests them. I met a guy who can read Chagatai Turkic. Try finding that in Colombia. How can you be stuck in a shithole without opportunities, and not even try to better yourself? All the Colombians with IQs above 100 speak English, and work remotely for poojeets in other countries. There just aren't many of them, unfortunately.
>>2419516I am Syrian and virtually every young person that is from major cities can speak or understand English, how the fuck is a country on the western hemisphere that has close economic ties to USA so illiterate in English in the year 2023? Spics are fucking single digit iq retards
Alright bros. I'm heading CDMX in April or May. Is 1 week good enough to get my coom on? Or should I set up shop for a month? I'll only be interested in bareback and if not that, then I'll just settle for BJs. I want to do a month so that I can maybe set up a formal arrangement where I am able to just see the same girl all month so I don't have to constantly gamble on different girls if I am going raw. It'd be cool to have a chick to hang with if I want to explore a bit so looking for more of a GFE experience. I'm not a simp so won't be falling for hoes and not looking for a relationship. I also am experienced with women so I can read signals. I speak spanish well. I don't do well on dating apps because I usually only match with 6s and below, so I'd be using Seeking or Glambu.Are most chicks in Mexico aiming for longer arrangements or are they generally all flexible if the price is right? What sort of PPM should I expect in CDMX? I'm not a chud and somewhat interesting so I think I'll be able to hook a chick after they meet me i.e. get her to hang out with me because she wants to, esp since I'll be staying in a pretty cool apt in a nice area. I'll only bring chicks up after meeting them in a public place and can read them.
>>2419602This is why I stopped learning Spanish beyond being able to get around and order food.Mexico is nosxception to this level of stupid and they're not only south but cheering the growing economic growth form USA, see also new TSLA factory, but refuse to learn English.If a $5/pop Thai whore can become fluent shot by shot these ducks have no excuse. Even Cambodians under 35 are laegely fucking fluent.I'm learning Russian now instead and proudly joke I'd rather leave LatAm after 2 years more fluent in RU after a few months of studying than ESP.
>>2419646Not learning English is respectable. The fuck you would learn the language of globohomo. I stopped learning German/French the moment I realized they care more about the USA than their own countries. >>2419602Imagine being proud to be fluent in the language of the people the fucked up your country. Syria gonna switch its official language to Hebrew soon.
>>2414594Absolutely spot on. This is 100% correct. Don’t bring these hoes home. EVER!
>>2419647>>2419647>Not learn English is respectableAs Ive said then, enjoy the tin shack. Or funnier, a 5 year microfinance loan for a fucking moto. We're your primary trade partner and all of the money flows from and back to us. Go to Panama and do business. HINT: They speak English and with a good accent.I'm sure the French and their NWO whores will bail you out of the mud while they LARP around extracting as much $$$ from men as possible for "the people". Stupid fucks.I mean it's not like the illegals learn either...
>>2419639There are definitely girls that let you hit it raw the first time you sleep together. If not, it should only take three or four dates before she gets comfortable enough with you. At the very least, you'll be able to get blowjobs raw. In my experience, the only women who insist on making you wear a condom for BJs are the trashiest kind of whores, the ones that fuck multiple men a day. A serial sugar baby who fucks a few guys a month is positively respectable next to that. She probably has a job, and so doesn't need to lower herself to fucking men she doesn't find at least marginally attractive. Because their clientele is more limited, and tends to be from a higher socioeconomic level, they're less worried about catching something. As opposed to a brothel whore who fucks 10 disgusting old men every day, who themselves frequent the cheapest sort of hookers. Come with a clean STD test in hand to reassure them. You should be getting tested regularly anyway.
>>2419667Based thanks anon. How explicit are you when working "acuerdos"? Like when you message these more serial SB type chicks, do you say "I'm looking for a bareback blowjob and swallow"(kek)? Or do you generally have to feel it out and trust your instinct that shes going to be down. I also don't want to fork over money only to find out the chick wants be to put on a condom during a BJ ya know?
>>2419683(cont)I'm also down to buy some of these chicks lunch or dinner to get to know them. Basically American SB Seeking ritual style, but I also don't want the chicks to overvalue themselves because they see me simping like this. What's the correct play? Get coffee maybe to meet and a straightforward discussion about what we're looking for?
>>2419683>How explicit are you when working "acuerdos"?When you're messaging them, just say "Me gustaría tener una relacion donde ambos beneficiamos." Then if they say ok you go:"Te llevaría a cenar, y después en mi apartamento nos tomamos unos tragos y la pasamos rico juntos. Al fin te doy un regalo de $X. Te interesa?" Then if they say ok, that's all there needs to be said. She will know what you mean by "pasarlo rico juntos." Set up the first date and keep an eye on your drink. Then get her back to yours and fuck, you can be sure she's down as you've already made yourself clear. Don't pay her until you go back to your apartment, not until you're sure she's not a flake. Or if she insists, give her half and say the other half's at your apartment. But I don't give off creep vibes, been with plenty of women without paying for it, so in my experience they don't.
>>2419716based anon back it again with good info. do I have to say "tragos"? I don't drink and don't expect her to either, just don't want some me too case later in my life (even if I have all of communication set up properly so nothing is associated with me, i'm a schizo and would rather cover all my base if that makes sense, especially since I prefer she be sober and not smell like alcohol if we get down). Maybe instead something like "ver una pelicula" or some shit like that.Also is it pretty standard to abort mission during dinner if I see red flags or I'm not feeling it? I'm happy to still pay for dinner in these cases and get her an Uber or whatever to get home.
>>2416957>gringo malparido carechimbaNo one speaks your monkey language Paco speak English or gtfo
>>2419719>do I have to say "tragos"? I don't drink and don't expect her to either, just don't want some me too case later in my lifeLol chill out, you'll be fine. "Ver una pelicula" should be alright. >Also is it pretty standard to abort mission during dinner if I see red flags or I'm not feeling it?Of course. Safety should be your number one concern. Girls duck out of dates all the time when they get creep vibes from a guy, rightfully so. Don't feel bad about doing it yourself, especially not if you're paying for dinner. If your gut's telling you a person is sketchy, listen to it. That's good advice no matter where you are. Getting your drink spiked is much less common in Mexico than in Colombia, but it does happen.
>>2419728>Lol chill out, you'll be fine. "Ver una pelicula" should be alright.Yeah I figured I was being insanely autistic here. kek>Of course. Safety should be your number one concern.Yeah my advantage is that I'm Mexican so I can pick up bad vibes better than others. I also don't drink or do drugs, so I'll be on point at all times.Thanks a lot man. Is $120 (excluding the dinner/lunch and all, just for the dead) reasonable for a night for your average 8/10 in CDMX?
>>2419736Not that anon, but right now I'm paying $300 a night for this one CDMX cutie, your milage may vary.
>>2419736>>2419776$120 is fine. I think $300 is a lot, but it does happen. I'd go up to $150 if they insist and they're really hot, but no more than that. At that point, you might as well put up with women's bullshit on Tinder if you can. Since I'm young, I'm not hopeless with women, and they can tell it's not my first rodeo, I get away with like $100 (in Colombia).
>>2419736>>2419785I think girls are willing to go lower on the price if you're not repulsive. If you're relatively young and attractive, you shouldn't need to pay as much for a sugar baby as a decrepit old man. Unfortunately, the downside of sugar babies is that you're dealing with women who don't need to live off of prostitution. It makes them safer, but it also means they're more expensive. Some just aren't willing to fuck for anything less than an exorbitant price. At the same time, don't let yourself be taken advantage of. They'll charge you ridiculous amounts and claim you're getting a good deal, if they can. An example being (>>2415240) where an ordinary hooker is saying she charges "only" COP 600k when you can easily get a short time for COP 150k. Offer a reasonable price and see what she tells you.
>>2419794But also happens to get some inexperienced SB that would go out with you just have the opportunity to dine in a nice place. Some don't even charge if you look good young and/or is young. Or those who think you might like her and you will become her SD so she will sleep with you once or twice without any money asked. Social media has fucked up peoples minds that much that lots of girls at seeking would bang you just to have some pictures in nice places for her instagram. More than in tinder, desu.
Alright faggots get ready for those WhatsApp texts about how your girl needs money because her house fell down
>>2419785For $150, do they usually spend the night? How often do women end up hitting you up just to hang out for free? Does that ever happen?
just fuck whores you absolute baboons>b-but a 16 yo girl wants me to move there and marry heryou are gonna get robbed>b-but women are throwing themselves at methey want your money, went to cartagena last november theres venezuelans pretending to be colombian, literally one of my colombian friends warned me about them and you can notice their fake "costeno" accent sounds wonkylets be real 99.99% of sexpats arent chad thundercock >b-but im whiteso is nearly every other sexpat
>>2419455>Realistically what are the odds?Are you serious? The odds are 100% if you haven't already been infected you'll get it. Most people have some kind of HPV but there are a bunch of them. The vaccines don't cover them al and you have to be a virgin for it to work anyway.If you get a bad HPV you'll get cancer. A different HPV gives you warts. A different one gives you cold sores...If you ever get married you'll give your wife herpes (if she didn't already have it).Life sucks, get used to it.
>>2419844Nooooo, I'm a daygame pickup artist gchad. I don't pay for pussy, I just walk around 10 hours a day hitting on women! Fresh and Fit and RooshV told me this is the best way to get laid! I'm not going to get scoped or fet frustrated and p4p at 5x the going rate!
>>2419837It happens, but don't count on it. These girls have their own lives to get back to. Maybe they even have a boyfriend. If you notice she's always avoiding certain parts of town, and seems intent on dragging you to gay bars, what's why. No seriously. This girl dragged me to a gay club once, I was on a double date with this Danish guy I met at a hostel. It was completely empty, and there were much livelier places nearby. I had no idea why she was so insistent, until I read on a coomer Facebook group that it's a tactic of theirs. There's no way in hell one of her boyfriend's friends is gonna run into her there. My jaw dropped when I read that, I was like the mind blown emoji. That's why if you have a "girlfriend" in Colombia, and she can only see you once a week, you're being played. When a young girl is interested in you, she will move heaven and earth for you to be together. She'll fucking make time. It's one thing if you're dating an American professional woman. But these girls don't have those kinds of opportunities. They're lucky to have a couple shifts a week at a call center. Girls have shown me bullshit schedules anyone can put together on Google Sheets to "prove" they're working six days a week. But they aren't. The best thing is to see multiple girls at once, so you aren't waiting around for any one of them. PS if you're in Colombia, I do NOT recommend letting a p4p sleep over. Not unless you've got security at the front desk, all your shit is locked up, and you know her. You've got to let the guard know not to let anyone up unless you come down personally. No phone calls. They'll kill and die for guys that look like picrel, who will cheat on them with half the block, but not for you. You have nothing in common.
>>2419845That's why you don't pay $40 for a hooker, you go for sugar babies instead. It seems obvious, but if a she "looks like a hooker," then stay away from her.
>>2419850Can't believe there are americans that actually go for that street trash. Literally just fap or get some sex toy.
>>2419858Americans are so grateful to see women who aren't morbidly obese that they pounce on the first one who's willing
>>2419500>>2419845even with a condom? F. any mongers here that don't have some kind of herpes of hpv
>>2416957top kek negrin, seguro lo borra en un duelo a cuchillo
Anyone know anything about Chile?
>>2420215I nailed a special ed teacher from Puerto Montt. She had a great rack.
>>2419844>>2419846Based androcentric coomers, why are zoomers so obssessed with validation from sloots? Its raising the rates for all these chicas with their ridiculous pigeon dancing and simping
>>2419646This is why I am not worried too much about hoeflation in Latin America. Thank fuck these chicas dont use birth control and keep popping out cum dumpsters for mongers to drain their balls into, Most of them are too lazy to learn english and resort to whoring as its the easiest, even OF is too much effort for some of these putas
>>2419716>>2419667Completely based coomer, posters like you make this board.
>>2419776For the whole night? Thats completely not worth it for the hour,
>>2419794>Unfortunately, the downside of sugar babies is that you're dealing with women who don't need to live off of prostitution. It makes them safer, but it also means they're more expensive. Some just aren't willing to fuck for anything less than an exorbitant price.>At the same time, don't let yourself be taken advantage of. They'll charge you ridiculous amounts and claim you're getting a good deal, if they can. An example being (>>2415240) where an ordinary hooker is saying she charges "only" COP 600k when you can easily get a short time for COP 150k.>I'm also down to buy some of these chicks lunch or dinner to get to know them. Basically American SB Seeking ritual style, but I also don't want the chicks to overvalue themselves because they see me simping like this. What's the correct play? Get coffee maybe to meet and a straightforward discussion about what we're looking for?Try not to sugar too much honestly, it kind of ruins the market and makes these putas have higher expectations. Try to fuck them with the least amount of effort and money as possible. If you want that experience its completely understandable and fine but try to make sure you aren't overpaying them please
>>2419850>>2419858I feel like locals are way more likely to buy street walkers
>>2420223I meant something relevant as to us all.
>>2420308She has a sister, if you want
How hard is it to set up a threesome in CDMX? Budget is $1k for a night.
>>2420674>pay a woman to have sex with you>pay another>ask them to fuck you on the same night>???>profitI would disclose that you're planning on having another girl over, surprises are rarely welcome in these kinds of situations. Or you can ask a girl you've been seeing if she's got any friends with a similar avocation. They often do.
>>2413581I, also, want to make the trip to Medellin to fuck world-class trannies for pennies until my cock falls off, OP.
>>2413935Yeah. A 9/10 westernized Colombian woman is equivalent to a 5/10 living in the mainland.
>>2420248I'm local, all.my life had sex with hooker and with gf and wife, but never fuck a street hooker, go to spa, brothel or ask a friends who has special hookers girls. And if you are a normal man and offer enough money yo can fuck whenever you want, don't fool don't fall in love.If. She looks like a hooker, then is a hooker
>>2421032YOu wouldn't survive your first encounter with a tranny down there.
>>2414327You speak the truth. I went to colombia just before the pandemic. Bogota, medellin, boyaca and cartagena. The people are shit every where.It was dangerous when i went, and its gotten much worse since convid.You are the people are users and scammers. The advice you are given is dont give papaya or what ever. Basically always be careful and dress down or you will be mugged. It says a lot about colombian culture and people. Other poor countries like ujraine, moldova, albania, vietnam, thailand etc are far saferThe women are hot but dumb and gold diggers. You are right, they hook up with the worst man and get cheated on. Almost every colombian family has no father lolOver rated country and people
>>2414344Lol yeah its pretty funny seeing euro sluts get their hearts broken by colombian or brazilian men.Now even poor girls from serbia, macedonia, albania and russia go there to get played.Women are the same every where
>>2416428I feel bad for not seeing this. If you're willing to drop $8k and you're really a novice, you should go to Mexico instead. It's a lot safer, you can blow all your money without having to look over your shoulder like a paranoid schizo. >What is the most secure place in the city to store belongings?I wouldn't trust anyone in Medellin to hold my shit, you need to have a safe where you live for sensitive things and keep everything with you. >Airbnb vs Business Hotel?Hotel is best, they're cheap, and these days Airbnbs are gonna charge you hotel prices anyway. You might as well get free cleaning on top of everything for a short stay. >Which ATMs should be utilized to withdraw money?Only the ones in centros commerciales (malls, they're everywhere) or Exito. I haven't noticed a difference in fees or stuff like that across different banks, since I have a Charles Schwab debit and they reimburse me. >Brothels or incalls?Since I speak Spanish and I'm familiar with the area, I don't bother with brothels. But if you're only there for like a day, it's probably the safest way to get your rocks off. Police show up at brothels to hang out since the concept of professional decorum is beyond the IQ of your typical colombian. >How would go about finding a tour guide that won't screw you over?If you check MDN coomer facebook groups, there's this boomer who will give you a tour for like $100. He'll probably be happy to exchange notes if you buy him a beer, tell you stories so you know what to expect when you're down there. The only people you should ever trust implicitly in MDN are other foreigners, and even then, you need to avoid guys who will get you into trouble. Ignore all the people who say "hurr you'll be fine." Yeah, you probably will. But the guy who prepares high school students for their driver's test would be a shitty teacher if he didn't constantly remind people of what can happy if you fuck around behind the wheel.
>>2414327>Reddit faggots would say it's because they lack access to contraceptives, but isn't true.Colombia has literally a lower fertility rate than the USA, dumb Nigro.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependencies_by_total_fertility_rateUSA: 1,8Colombia: 1,7>They can't help being the way they are, it's in their DNA. Colombia was inhabited by the Muisca people before the Spanish conquest. Rather than founding great empires like the Aztecs or discovering breakthroughs in mathematics and astrology like the Mayans, all they did was fuck. In fact, it was seen as a mark of shame among the Muisca if a girl was a virgin: it meant no one wanted to be with her (seriously). So the women were all sluts, which they continue to be to this day.Not sure if you even finished highschool, but thats only one of many tribes than inhabited the territory of today's Colombia, from several different linguistic groups. Nowadays there are at least 100 of them. But to choose Muiscas as an example of a backwards society, when they are generally considered the most "advanced" indigenous group of the Americas outside of Mesoamerica and Peru was retarded. And what you wrote about virginity among Muisca people is even more retarded and random.
>>2422503Thanks for the info. Funny you mention Mexico, since that is where I usually coom. Have a couple trips planned this year in fact. I'm a bit of a well off coomer and Medellin is touted as a must visit for coomers so I am compelled to visit despite the warnings.
>>2422662Dude if you have the cash, why even leave the US? You can get luxury experiences with that kind of money. Or just go to Europe.
>>2413581Yes, I lived there when I was a kid and someone stole my toy truck as soon a I turned around.
>>2422845Lol are you kidding? Every boomer with a couple rental houses has that kind of money. Doesn't mean shit in the US. That money goes A LOT farther in LatAm. A salary of $80k per year is enough to put you in the top 1%. You could have multiple sugar babies with that.
>>2421444Gotta add to the women, even if they have a perfect deck they are still fucked up somehow. I'll give one good personal example. Pretty recently I briefly dated a Colombian girl who came from Bucaramanga to Chicago. She had a great relationship with her father, she wasn't whoring around (I went through her phone), wasn't a gold digger and yet she still managed to have the mental and emotional intelligence of a child, and still somehow had certain red flags. Then one day I find out that without saying anything she decides to just move back to her town without saying a single word, then she blocked me. Guess I at least had the charm
>>2423518But yeah, God helped me dodge a bullet there, seriously guys they are crazy, that's just one example I have.
>>2423518And this girl, as well as others, even if somehow they're virigns and haven't dated, somehow have it ingrained into their genes to be manipulative by hooking you in and then keeping you tense on the line by whatever means they please.
>>2423518Can't speak about Bucaramanga, but I can vouch for the fact that Medellin is full of people with Narcissistic Personality Disorder. The number of psychopaths there is astonishing, including ones willing to murder you. Remember they had a small gene pool of pyschopathic conquistadors who passed their psycho genes down to everybody with all the cousin fucking and inbreeding that happens down there.
>>2417780still plenty of hot girls for sub 40 euros per hour in colombia, just have to spend a small amount of time looking around for good prices which seems impossible for the average american lol
>>2423806where do you suggest looking? srs question
>>2416371I don’t know if anyone’s ever told you this yet, but bitches love cocaine. Especially white women
>>2423518>Gotta add to the women, even if they have a perfect deck they are still fucked up somehow.Like anywhere else, there are a few with a heart of gold. But they are definitely NOT the ones you'll be running into as a tourist. If she's at a language exchange and can't put together three words of English, skank. If you met her online, skank. If she walks up to you in Parque Lleras, skank (dangerous too). Your first instinct should be to mistrust. Unfortunately, most guys are so pathetic that they develop feelings for the first woman who shows any interest. That's how they get you. >she still managed to have the mental and emotional intelligence of a childNot contradicting you, but Colombians tend to have very good emotional intelligence. They have great social skills, but lack impulse control. They could talk a Scotsman out of a penny. That's what makes them so dangerous. They sound like cretins when they try to manipulate you in their broken English, but when you speak to them in their own language they're surprisingly subtle. Your average high school dropout fuckup in the US lacks manners, they don't know how to talk to people at all. But Colombia is a country full of people like that, and they're very polite. I guess that's the result of growing up in a country where being rude to the wrong person, even by mistake, could get you killed. It's less true these days, but it was DEFINITELY true in the 80's. Thirty-something year old cartel guys would shoot teenage boys for sitting on the hood of their car.
>>2423924Yeah this, it's Euro party girls and hippie backpacker types. It actually surprised me how well-balanced the gender ratio is for tourism in Medellin, considering it's known as a sexpat destination. American girls are too high-strung for Colombia, I only ever run into Eurotrash when I'm there. And it's too edgy for family vacations, so women will generally be under 35.
>>2423978 Actually now that I think about it you have a point. I took her out once to eat and she heard the waiter speak Spanish, and besides language fluency obviously, there was a much different flow and rhythm of elegance and assertiveness that I hadn't heard come out of her mouth before. So I think you do have a point regarding social skills, but I rest my case with the intelligence levels in action, which has lack of impulse control as a part of it. Now I want to go to Colombia myself and see how these people really function, it honestly sounds amazing.
>>2423891https://catadorcolombia.com/forums/rese%C3%B1as-en-medell%C3%ADn.5/There's plenty of well reviewed whores to start with, then just look through the sites that are linked to for more. When you see one you like message them on whatsapp using google translate if you don't speak Spanish.
>>2423978> I guess that's the result of growing up in a country where being rude to the wrong person, even by mistake, could get you killed.just another one of your extremely retarded guesses and assumptions. While violence was or is very high, it ocurred in specific situations. And it's not the same all over the country, at all. Medellin and Antioquia are, by far, the departamento with the most war victims in the country. The vast majority of Colombians don't speak English, nor do they care about learning it.
>>2424684>just another one of your extremely retarded guesses and assumptions. While violence was or is very high, it ocurred in specific situations.More like "just another butthurt Colombian." I had a taxi driver almost beat me with a truncheon because I slammed his door too hard after a night out. Other poor people aren't like this, Yancarlos! These aren't "guesses and assumptions," they're the result of five visits to the country over twelve years. Whenever criticism of the country is voiced online, you can always count on beaner keyboard warriors coming at you in their broken English. Saying that there's gun violence in America too, or some other pathetic cope. Meanwhile, you wait for months to get an appointment at the US embassy, desperate for the chance to get a visa so you can illegally emigrate. Why don't you just fuck off. >The vast majority of Colombians don't speak English, nor do they care about learning it.Probably the one intelligent thing you've said. Even the most well educated Colombians can't speak English, it's honestly sad. If you meet a doctor or a lawyer, there's an 80% chance they can't string together three words to make a sentence. Notice how he had to qualify the statement by saying "they don't care about learning it." As if to say, "there's nothing wrong with us, we just don't FEEL LIKE learning another language!" Meanwhile, Belgian teenagers grow up speaking three of them. Chinese students practice their English every day, even if they don't have the chance to use it very often, for the chance to study abroad in the West and make something of themselves. Colombians on the other hand? They'd rather stick bananas up their ass in online chatrooms, that's all they're good for.
A guy from Sweden was killed in Medellin two weeks ago. Three guys mugged him, beat him, and left him for dead. El Colombiano, the most prestigious newspaper in the country, sent a journalist to investigate. He reported the victim's name as "Kay Makensi." https://www.elcolombiano.com/medellin/extranjero-fue-atacado-en-el-cerro-de-las-tres-cruces-AH20632534Only later did it come out that his name is actually "Kyle Mackenzie." A veteran contributor to the nation's top newspaper wrote this. These are supposed to be the most educated, sophisticated people in the country. https://www.elcolombiano.com/medellin/nuevos-detalles-del-sueco-asesinado-en-el-cerro-de-las-tres-cruces-PA20643927Another vignette. A Colombian police academy decided to hold a "cultural exchange," in order to prove their cosmopolitanism. They decided to celebrate German culture... by dressing up as Nazis, complete with SS uniforms, armbands, and funny windmills. One guy even showed up with a fake Hitler mustache. This was an official event held at the police academy building, and uniformed officers were present. They posted pictures of the event online, thinking they had done a fine job. The event was held only a year after Colombian police were criticized for their brutal treatment of protesters, with many being accused of human rights violations. The president of Colombia, embarrassed, issued a statement saying "Any justification for Nazism is unacceptable, and I condemn any demonstration that uses or makes reference to symbols making allusion to the Jewish Holocaust that claimed the lives of over six million people." The German and Israeli ambassadors issued a joint statement "expressing their total rejection of any sort of justification for or manifestation of Nazism."Highly educated, sophisticated countryhttps://www.france24.com/fr/am%C3%A9riques/20211120-en-colombie-des-policiers-se-d%C3%A9guisent-en-nazis-pour-rendre-hommage-%C3%A0-l-allemagne
>>2424710https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/jake-paul-bj-flores-boxing-29485008After spending his time coaching Paul, Flores travelled to Colombia and was in Meddelin where he was approached by armed assailants at a set of traffic lights.The American trainer was bundled out of his car and held at gunpoint by the robbers with them pointing the firearm at his head. However Flores accounted managing to move the weapon away from his head, but a robber pulled the trigger and shot him in the leg.
>>2424580"servicios: mala, horrible, nivel hitler" kek
As a colombian i'm afraid to tell you to take care of tinder whores...If you end with the wrong one...she might drug you on a date...Be carefull if in the first dates she ask to take her to your apt and if she can bring a friend of hers (threesome? Not going to happen kek)Anyway, take some security measures like tipping the doorman at your hotel and telling him to not letting your whores leaving without checking if you're ok first...Maybe i'm being dramatic, i don't want to scare you, but some whores are just trash people...Better pick them anywhere but El poblado.