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/rcg/, how fat are you?
>>2405677Never had to do the walk of shame. Or use a fat seat. Or go flying off the New Texas Giant or Icon Park drop tower.
>>2405713You ain't fat enough to ride, skinny boy. Skinny boy!
>>24056775'10 210, trying to finally actually commit to getting actually fit (add muscle) after dropping 30lbs last year just via diet
>>2405677Never done a walk of shame, have had a ride attendant lean heavily on a restraint once to get that second click. I need to lose weight...
Anyone remember this?
>>2405928Yep.>"Countless Chinese died making the railroads... LOL"Early California Adventure was a weird weird park.
>>2405677Not at all, I can't imagine not being able to ride whatever I want
>>2405677Human skeleton checking in. I have the opposite problem where the restraints don't touch my body so every ride has maximum airtime.
>>2405931>Early California Adventure was a weird weird park.No wonder considering it was basically Plan C after both Port Disney and WestCOT got scrapped.
When the weather warms up, what are you all trying to hit? I need to get Kings Dominion and Carrowinds off my list
>>24056776ft. (13.5st / 85kg / 187lbs)Just ran 19.0km this morning before doing my first ever half marathon in 2 weeks time.
>>2406017Nowhere. There's still a pandemic.
>>2406017Carowinds and King’s Dominion are open right now. They switched to year-round operation
>>2405928I unironically liked the soundtrack. Wouldn't have been a bad film for a museum or something but since DCA was so underwhelming this film just added to it. If DCA had been great this show wouldn't have gotten so much shit.
>>2406017Weather has been unusually warm but all the parks within <5 hours driving distance are closed. I think I’ll just wait until Cedar Point opens for the season
Going to WDW in a couple weeks for the first time since 2009. Any general tips/pointers? I love leveraging single riders and fastpass (although looks like it's not free anymore). I'm praying to be able to sneak into TRON before official opening.
>>2406272Make sure to read up on how the new FastPass system works (Genie+ Lightning Lane and Individual Lightning Lane)Also if you can spare it, chuck TouringPlans $18 for their Crowd Calendar and live-updated Lines app.
>>2406307How would TourinPlans live lines app differ from Disneys?The information is surely coming from the same sources (unless Disney are intentionally manipulating line times within Genie)
>>2406323>How would TourinPlans live lines app differ from Disneys?The TouringPlans app has both the posted wait times from Disney and actual recorded wait times from people at the parks.Disney will often manipulate the wait times to achieve certain things (like posting longer than actual times to make it less crowded)
>>2406353Test track wait times are up to the first design your car segment. There's usually 10-15 minute waits past there. It's annoying as fuck.When I went to Paris last year, their payment system and queue time system actually went down and it was chaos. For some rides, it listed them as being closed and even at the entrance, the electronic signs said closed and they weren't able to cover it up or right a sign saying to ignore it because of usual corporate "no hand written signs" bullshit. Eventually for some rides they did manage to cover up the closed signs. Probably worse was Crush's coaster reporting a really tiny time so lots more people likely joined it and got stuck in a 60+ minute queue.
>>2406088Yes, but I work weekends, so I'd have to request off, which might end up with me there in 36 degree weather. I hate the cold. >>2406233Yeah, it's just a month or two more, anyhow. >>2406087Its really bad. You should convince as many normies as you can to stay home this year.
>>2406384Crush's Coaster is also really inefficient, it has less than half the capacity of Avengers Assemble Flight Force
>>2405928Yep. The dynamite blasting scene scared me as a kid.
>>2406452>"wow, crush's coaster is the most popular ride in this park, maybe we should build another family coaster in that Frozen Sled coaster to go with the Frozen ride?">"nah, we'll build this huge expansion just for a single ride!"I just don't get the thinking
>>2406545It's embarrassing how little the park has to show for the €2 billion renovation
Rock N Roller Coaster is scheduled to close for a lengthy refurbishment from Feb 20thEst reopening time Summer 2023.What do we think lads. A retheme? Dumping Aerosmith due to the Typer harrassment charges? Will it be a muppets re-theme?
>>2406573Feb to Summer seems too short for a retheme to take place.At least we know it wouldn't be redone as Avengers like in Paris thanks to Universal's contract.
>>2406576RNR has arguably easier re-theming job that most coasters.Exterior Building - new skin and logo requiredPreshow / Launch area - wont take that much modificationThe main coaster just has a bunch of luminescent signs that can easily be swapped out
>>24065733-5 months? Repainting + pressure washing the handrails and floors
>>2406577So what would it rethemed as?Maybe they'll go full lazy and slap Guardians of the Galaxy on it.
>>2406573Most likely it's just removing Aerosmith. AFF was an embarrassment of a retheme.
>>2406579Shang chi or kamala Khan would possibly be exempt
>>2406579A Doctor Strange re-theme could work quite well.Just have a bunch of portals and shit as you come out of the launch, and the journey takes you through the multiverse before finding your way back to the sanctum
>>2406654Doctor strange was an established avengers member in the 90s, he's off limits
>>2406573This is Disney. Tron was announced before Universal announced the closure of Dueling Dragons. 3-6 months is not enough for a retheme. RnRC is a high capacity year-round coasted. Being enclosed helps but they need new trains and restraints at the very least and that track needs some work in spots. It’s pretty rough and outdated
>>2405677What even is considered "fat" these days?I do not exceed any standard weight limits for rides and equipment, and nobody openly makes fun of me for how I look. I even have surprisingly okay luck with women. At the very least, I know I am above normal weight, but I don't experience the same kind of vitriol that most fat people do.>5'11">230 pounds>32" waist
>>2406703>3-6 months is not enough for a retheme.Well to be fair, Mission Breakout and Incredicoaster were done in a similar timeframe. Still though, they were announced well before the original attractions closed. I don't know why people are making such a big deal out of what is more than likely just some routine maintenance.
>>2406662>>2406654Actually Strange already had a small meet and greet at Hollywood Studios so he's fine for use.Keep in mind all the characters in use at Universal.
>>2406796Hats off to Universal for completely refurbishing the Marvel area and keeping it as pristine as possible purely to dab on the mouse. They should do another Marvel haunted house and have the avengers scare children to continue to lower the IP value.
>>2406892I bet a Carnage haunted house was cool.
>>2406892>Hats off to Universal for completely refurbishing the Marvel area and keeping it as pristine as possible purely to dab on the mouseIt's not to "dab on the mouse", that's part of their contract.https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1262449/000119312510008732/dex1057.htm>Each THE MARVEL UNIVERSE shall be operated and maintained in a first class manner consistent with the highest standards of the theme park industry and shall be deemed “open” only when operated in such manner
>>2406997Yes, but I'm saying they are aggressively maintaining it to adhere to that contract so Disney's lawyers can't *rubbing hands* and sweep the rug out from under them. Disney must be seething that by the time Universal is ready to vacate the property, the hype around marvel movies will have died down substantially.
>>2407013It's not exactly a "based" move, just a no-brainer.
>>2406738Where the fuck do you keep your weight if you 230 and have a 32 in waist
>>2405537I was at the gate to get onto Tatsu at SFMM on Saturday when a black family that entered through the exit (not even a flash pass entrance, just the literal exit) decided to hop on in front of us. Seated on our row was a mom and her two kids. She couldn't secure the restraint over her round frame so she beckoned for one of the operators to help. After about 2 minutes of struggling, another operator jumped in and they both stood there furiously trying to shove the restraint into its lock for a good few minutes. At one point they even tried to kick the thing into place when their arms were starting to tire out. Everyone queued up was trying really hard not to laugh, some failing to contain it. I felt bad for the kids, how humiliating that must have been but as for the mom, why even bother? There's a reason you don't see obese people on roller coasters very often, especially a flyer where the restraint is the only thing keeping you alive. Would she really have felt safe riding if they were to somehow lock the restraint into place? Good riddance
>>2407047>Would she really have felt safe riding if they were to somehow lock the restraint into placShe might not have felt safe but that's not relevant, if it locked she was fine
>>2407047When I was younger I got on the front row of Griffon with my little brother. Some massive fatass got in the seat next to me. The atendant had to repeatedly shoulder-check the restraint into the man's gut just to get it to click once. I was just waiting for the fatty to fall out and splatter when the ride stops to hang, but thankfully for him, ride designers care more about his life than he himself does.
Was riding ice breaker a few months back.3 girls where ahead of us in the queue and one of the girls was plus sized.She didnt fit into the test harness, but decided to plow on and try and get onto the actual ride.Now if anyone has been on ice breaker, even trying to shimmy across the seats is fucking hard, let alone get into them. Thankfully the cast member must have watched her fail the test harness because she just denied her entry to the ride unless she could prove she could fit into the test harness.The girl did look mortified but im not sure what she was expecting. That somehow the ride seats will be bigger????
Im 6ft, 183lbs, and the CMs at Cheetah Hunt pushed the harness down 1 click to far. It felt like both of my shoulders where about to snap - and this was before the ride launched. Shit was very uncomfortable.Made sure when I rode it the next time around to leave a gap and it was a much better experience.I cant imagine being so vastly overweight that you are squashed into a ride that is going to throw massive G forces at you
>>2407120>That somehow the ride seats will be bigger????That was the case with the Mummy. I have no trouble with rides, but a friend I went with couldn't get on some. He tried the Mummy test seat and only barely fit. On the actual ride though, he got in no problem.
The Tron coaster does look pretty cool. I'm sure it's not worth the obscene wait it will always have, but it does look cool.
>>2407218It might not though. MK is largely a children's park and Tron has a 48" height requirement, preventing most kids under 8 from riding. Adult fans usually "run big" and will be filtered by public humiliation. I wouldn't compare this with Hagrid's and IoA. Fatties are saying Hagrid's is less restrictive and also IoA is not a children's park like the MK. MK has more ECVs per capita compared to the Universal parks. I think putting this ride in MK, the stroller capital of the world, is a mistake as only the speedway has a higher height requirement and that's just to drive. Space Mountain's is 42".
>>2407047as much as I hate parks that use iROC for their operations, the 1 upside is that it BTFOs fat people. Operators aren't really allowed to force restraints down like that at all and are given all the liberty to just kick people off if they are uncomfortable with how fat someone is
>>2407865yeah this should have put it into EPCOT instead
https://twitter.com/TheMuppets/status/1625929656615436300Gonzo on the Figment ride. Damn shame they'd never do Creature Shop style puppets for that Seth Rogen Figment movie.
>>2408160Epcot already had a coaster being built
>>2408160>>2408260Definitely more fitting in Epcot if not for just getting GotG. In Shanghai it fills the same role as SM at other parks so it’s also weird to have it right next to SM.Even if they have plans to shed the kiddie park image, the kiddie park reputation is solidified. MK isn’t a well-rounded park like its CA sibling. Adults who’ve never been (having no nostalgia) are bored. Teens grow out of it. They’ve got a couple classics for all ages but most of their attractions are toddler-friendly and have no height requirement. Adults seem to like taking pics with the castle though
>>2408274>MK isn’t a well-rounded park like its CA siblingWould you say that's because WDW has 4 parks to split rides across instead of just 2?
Post your coasterfu
>>2408173>Eric Idle is replaced by Beaker and Honeydew in a refurbWould /trv/ want? Can still have the ride extended again.
Most of the conversations from roller coaster enthusiasts confuse me. Last year, I realized that I hadn't been to many amusement parks and decided to hit some. I went to Busch Gardens twice, Dollywood, Hershey Park, and Disney Land. I rode damn near every ride for adults from the parks above, and after coming to boards like this and watching videos on YouTube, I'm surprised at how different my standard of enjoyment from a ride is versus what enthusiasts judge theirs on. It seems like there's some obsession with inversions, speed, loops, turns, all this stuff that's cool, but it doesn't make the ride for me. Verbolten in Busch Williamsburg is my favorite coaster. It was the first to ever shock me. I also liked Pantheon from the same park and Mystery Mines in Dollywood. A coaster like the Candymonium in Hershey is a neat ride, but it didn't make me feel anything different than the Griffon did in Busch. I think this has led me to the conclusion that I like a ride that surprises me more than one that thrills me. Don't get me wrong, something like the Lightning Rod at Dollywood still put me on my ass and I had to ride it twice, but it seems like most of the conversations that dominate coasters are ones I'm not particularly interested in. Why do you think list makers focus more on how high a coaster is or how fast it goes over how much it's able to transport you back to being a kid? What coaster (or ride in general, it could be a log ride for all I care) shocked you the most on your first go through?
>>2408289OK without 4chan rotating my picRode it for the first time last year, and it's already my favorite
>>2408289My current favorite is Velocicoaster, but Hydra at Dorney Park will always hold a special place in my heart.
>>2408289SheiKra my beloved
>>2408318I get that. I love Mystery Mine too. And The Mummy is my favorite ride at Universal. More than Velocicoaster.
>>2408289She just does something to me that the others don't.
>>2408289My first proper costerfu
Please redpill me on Disney Resorts.Ive only ever stayed at the Value (All Star Movies) before, but now im earning 4x what I was in 2017 and I would like to book again.The Deluxe Resorts are surely priced so high that only American retards will book into them.
>>2408479The redpill is that they're all very expensive for what you get and you're either going to have to take it up the ass or stay off property
>>2408479The deluxe resorts are for when you have so much money you don't care that they're incredibly poor value. The middle ones are still overpriced but a lot more sensible. Better quality theming, better transport links, a few more perks.Ultimately, with Disney hotels, it's all about how much you value the Disney bubble. The return of free parking and some of the offers they have at the moment make them a bit less obscene (for value and mid tier)
>>2408289It's not conventionally intense but it does make you fear for your life riding it.
>>2408446based tasteI hope CP never gets rid of that fucker until it literally can't run anymore
>>2408322the thumbnail looks like a metroid
>>2408479Had a stay at Wilderness Lodge once as a kid, and I remember it being cool, but the Deluxe resorts, especially the Magic Kingdom ones, are exceptionally overpriced, even for Disney. If you really want to stay on-site, you're better off with a Moderate for theming or a "Value" for savings.
>>2408289my first coasterfu was Oblivion, I always had a weird autistic obsession with dive coasters as a kidcurrent coasterfu is pic related. I admit I am super biased because I was on the crew opening year and it's a beautiful piece of garbage that cemented itself in my heart forever
Seems like the food at Nintendo World Hollywood is a massive downgrade over the Japanese version which is pretty weird.
>>2408502For comparison.They don't even offer peach's cake. I don't understand why they've cheaped out so needlessly.
>>2408446I sat and watched it from the water park last year (it goes right though the water park). The anti rollback sound was loud but didn’t annoy me. It takes forever to climb that lift hill but it seemed like they would dispatch one after the other. No wonder it has good capacity. Drop seemed smaller when looking right up at it.It’s one of my favs, the hills don’t bother my thighs. My back gets a little banged up though, I think on that Ron Toomer pretzel. They’ll never get rid of it, it’s iconic, historic, has a very tight layout and footprint (again it intersects the watermark). And they’ll just retrack or replace supports as needed to keep it going indefinitely
>>2408289from a ride op perspective it will always be thisthe only ride I've ever worked that doesn't handhold the fuck out of you in controls, it's just so damn fun
>>2408492That pierce of garbage is considered the best coaster on the planet by many including myself. I haven’t ridden every coaster on the planet… or outside North America. But it’s the best of what I’ve been on and the only think I don’t like about it as I’ll never get to ride it for the first time again
>>2408518I feel the exact same waythe first time I got to ride it was the evening before the media day. Then I test rode at like 3am on media day in the fog, I literally still have dreams about that
>>2408519also I just realized I gave away who I am by saying I test rode on media day, bc only 2 people didhopefully non of my former co-workers lurk here
>>2408506This was very disappointing to see. Hopefully they bring some of the Japanese items to the Epic Universe land. Universal can do good food when they try, but they just have so many lackluster offerings. It's one of the things I think Disney still does better.
>>2408502>>2408506It's extremely disappointing that there's no Yoshi's Snack Island.
>>2408318List makers are usually thoosies ranking coasters on airtime and forces. I just like coasters that are fun. I really like Gatekeeper at Cedar Point, a B&M wing coaster. It’s gentle, smooth, fun, it’s a part of the entrance plaza which makes for a great entrance, and there are some forces if you sit in the back. Thoosies don’t care for it. Most people love dive coasters despite their one trick.. but most thoosies don’t like them. That one trick is pretty neat, especially for the ones that drop into a hole and/or tunnel. Firechaser Express is a family coaster at Dollywood but I really enjoyed it. But thoosies be like “the launches weren’t intense, the layout was forceless, after the MCBR it was boring. 7/10, doesn’t crack my top 200”
>>2408581I love Firechaser Express. I like it more than Wild Eagle. It's extremely fun.
>>2408581of all the copypasted B&Ms that cedar point has, gatekeeper is def the bestthe way it's placed right next to the lake and then how it sails over the entrance gate is really cool
>>2408289Maverick at Cedar point. The perfect coaster in my eyes. Words cannot express my love for the ride. I watched that 3D teaser trailer of the ride as a kid so much that I fell in love with the ride almost instantly.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDqCvwb6e2k>>2408446Based. Magnum is such a beautiful coaster.
Help me guys. I got fat during covid then got all 4 shots and then went to a them park and got really light headed after a couple roller coasters then have had migraines ever since. Do I have blood clots?
>>2408628Maverick is great. Launching up the lift hill right into that beyond vertical drop.. those snappy curves.. the launch tunnel. First time I rode it I had no idea what to expect other than what I could see from the queue so the second launch in the tunnel was a surprise and is about as good as LSM launches can get despite the many that have been built after. I wish it didn’t always have a 1hr+ wait even on slow days when Steel Vengeance is a 15-20 min wait but that’s more of a capacity thing.
ElToroRyan has a recent video about Top Thrill Dragster claiming his sources now say the launch track will be extended past the Photo Booth for a vertical spike and swing launch. But they carefully worked around the station canopy which was left in place, there isn’t enough room for a spike unless they remove it. He also claims the top hat track will be replaced.When they dismantled Wicked Twister (and Volcano at KD) they torched the track and scrapped it. For TTD, they carefully disassembled it and placed it in cargo crates to be shipped off to Europe. And they didn’t touch the top hat. The 2024 coaster teaser shows off the top hat. I wonder if he’s being fed junk info, I’m still skeptical they’re just gonna give a problematic 400ft coaster to inexperienced Zamperla.
>>2408803Enthusiasts getting their info from dubious sources is nothing new. The Dippin Dots guy is eternal
>>2408814I think I've had Dippin Dots once in my life
>>2408275>Would you say that's because WDW has 4 parks to split rides across instead of just 2?Maybe. But they charge full price, $130+ on average per park per day, 1 park only. There was a time when parking hopping wasn't an option and so long as you had a multi-day ticket you could hop between parks. They still had the 1-day 1 park ticket but it was cheap.. it was a ripoff for MGM though.MK has always been a lesser DL. With a kiddie reputation at least since about Epcot opened in the 80s. Even if they continue to spam IPs without any regard for coherent theming, they should all be well-rounded. Tron does help MK with that but it needs more. MK needs more for adults, Epcot still needs more for kids. DAK needs more attractions. DHS needs to be double the size. None of these things will happen
>>2408803I guess we'll find out for sure this year, if they plan to replace the tophat they'll have to do it during the season in plain view of everyoneI'm curious who his source is, cedar point is usually pretty good at keeping things hush hush. As for the zamperla thing it's already confirmed so the source was correct on that part
>>2408934>if they plan to replace the tophat they'll have to do it during the season in plain view of everyoneThey could do it in the offseason
Booked Coronado Springs for 2 weeks in Sept for around £2300Disney are giving us £1,100 off (4 nights free) so it would have been around £3,500 originallyIts working out £50 more expensive vs the same 2 weeks in All Star Movies (how the fuck is that priced so expensive)Somehow POP Century is cheaper than All Star Movies.ASM must have run out of free night deals.
>>2408934Zamperla is still just a rumor, hasn't been confirmed yet. More than just ETR are claiming Zamperla so it's very plausible. Only issue is Zamperla hasn't done a project this big before and their Lightning coaster is a new product.
I just love Magnum y'all. She's not too soft, keeps me on my toes, but makes me smile. Quite a looker too. I hope she runs until she just can't no more.Like a few people said, I don't think Cedar Point could get rid of her. Magnum is iconic and a big piece of rollercoaster history.Lots of good taste here with coasters from the Point.
>>2408955It's probable Intamin is involved to a degree, Zamperla may even be a subcontractor
>>2408961cp has a bad relationship with intamin which is probably where all the zamperla rumors are coming from
>>2408979>cp has a bad relationship with intaminThat kind of talk is overblown by enthusiasts. Obviously CF isn't buying Intamin rides these days but they still rely on them for technical support (such as schematics) and replacement parts. There's still a professional relationship between both companies.
>>2408954So many brits here going september...
>>2409031Schools go backFlights are cheaperWeather is still in the 30sParks slightly quieterIm not surprised a lot of Brits go 8n Sept
>>2409031September is, from my understanding, the best time of year to go these days. I can attest that Universal has been very nice the past two years, and I've heard Disney also hits a nice lull. I'm hoping to be able to hit up the West Coast parks for the first time this September. Hopefully they have the same pattern.
>>2408960They don’t make ‘em like this anymore. Magnum goes through its layout too fast and the hills at the end are triangular instead of parabolas. This is why it’s so great and also why it’s a bit janky at the same time. Like a happy accident. The Morgan “clones” aren’t as good plus they have MCBRs and are lacking the view of a Great Lake
>>2408910>Epcot still needs more for kidsThey were planning to do that with the Play Pavilion but it got scrapped
how do you decide how much time to spend at Disney World/Universal Florida if you've already been to the west coast versions many times? I feel like universal/IOA would be a one day park-hopping experience for me. Universal Orlando does not have much in the way of unique rides from my POV. maybe diagon alley and while I'm there i'd check out the men in black ride, see how the mummy is better than the one at USH.i would love to see islands of adventure some day but even at IoA there are a couple duplicates i could skip (jurassic park the ride and forbidden journey). would the hulk be that much of a draw if you've been on every B&M coaster at Magic Mountain and Knott's? i have almost zero desire to go to MK (curious about space mountain differences) or MGM- I mean DHS. a slightly different version of big thunder? the tron ride looks boring and very undisney, with bare roller coaster track everywhere? the only thing at DHS I would want to see is the original tower of terror.that leaves EPCOT and animal kingdom as the truly unique experiences compared to Disneyland/DCA. honestly I was thinking 2-3 parking hopping days at Disney World and 1 day at universal. I don't care about hotels, dining experiences or water parks. but then i think, eh, why spend all that money flying for so little time? just go to disneyland for way less. do any other west coast bros feel this way?
>>2409395I think there's enough different stuff at Universal Florida to warrant at least two days (like the new coasters and expanded HP area)
>>2409395Unless you're going in a slow period, you'll probably want two days at Universal. Studios may have a fair bit in common with Hollywood, but it has a lot that's different. RRR, the Mummy, MiB, Bourne, the Horror Make-up Show, various street performances, and the entirety of Diagon Alley. Volcano Bay is also worth doing if you like water parks, but you'd definitely need at least two days with park hopping to hit it.As for Disney, MK is certainly mostly a diet DisneyLand, but it has some things worth checking out. The Haunted Mansion has quite a few changes, the People-Mover is still around, there's the Hall of Presidents/Liberty Square, and you've got a non-pirated version of Tom Sawyer's Island. You won't need a full day, but I think it's worth walking one loop around the park. Hit up HS in the morning to ride Tower of Terror and a few other things, then hop over to MK later on. AK and EPCOT will give you much more that you're looking for. 3 park-hopping days is probably ideal. One day for MK and HS, one for AK and EPCOT, then one more to hit things you missed or want to do again. Side note, MK Space Mountain fucking sucks. Don't waste your time unless the line is short. Taking the People Mover through it is more enjoyable than the ride itself.
>>2409395West coast fag here.Definitely do 2 or more days at Universal, it has a ton of unique things, plus the resort in general is far different from Hollywood. The only complete duplicates are Minions, Transformers, Simpsons, and two of the Potter rides (which I'd do anyways since they're pretty good). I'd say the soundtrack and theming on Hulk make it stand out well, and JP has quite a bit of old-school charm to it, especially now that Hollywood's has been replaced.I'd honestly go to MK to see their animatronic shows and go on their Peoplemover, but otherwise it is pretty inferior to DL. I think Tron and 7DMT are the only other things that stand out there. I agree with the other anon on doing a park hopping day between it and DHS, considering most of their good rides already exist at DL.>>2409399>Taron going through Hollywood's JW archAt least post an actual pic of Velocicoaster
>>2409423>7DMTHow long did that take to build from announcement to opening day?
>>2409395Many of the Disney attractions are different. It’s only been in the last 15 or so years that they started making exact clones. MK is largely a kiddie park but if you’re a fan of DL it might be worth checking out for the differences. The largest Main Street and castle always gets people. DHS is skippable, most of those are exact clones. DAK is a half day park but unique and also half of it is kinda just a zoo. Epcot for sure.As the others said, you need two days for the Universal parks even with the clones of existing attractions. It’s a different beast entirely despite having a few of the same attractions. I don’t know if you like water parks but Volcano Bay is among the best.Hulk is a sit down B&M, there are only a few of those on the planet. Not floorless. It’s still got the standard B&M elements but its signature characteristic is the launch (a tire launch on the lift hill) into a cobra roll. It has a soundtrack now. The 2nd half is garbage and will bang your head on the restraints but the first half is great. There is a better B&M sit down in Tampa though and an even better floorless a couple miles down the road. All three have similar layouts of B&M elements. BGT and SW are worth checking out too. And the two Fun Spots are open after the other parks close until midnight.
>>2409395Disney World's Space Mountain is basically their Matterhorn counterpart with the dual track layout and being a bumpy as shit experience. It's much more atmospheric then the Disneyland version and its copies with a more in-depth indoor queue and an entire set of post-show dioramas showcasing various planetary destinations.
>>2409423>7DMTReminder that this is a Vekoma junior coaster (like the Barnstormer) complete with small seats. The seats tilt sideway and there is a dark ride portion featuring projection animatronics where the coaster slows down and tires move it along to a lift hill. Would be worth seeing once if it was a 30 min wait or less but the wait I regularly 2+ hours
>>2409438They even used to have the same trains. Layout differs from the Matterhorn though and is similar to a wild mouse
>>2409435>DAK is a half day park.I may be the only person who thinks this, but I disagree. AK is in an interesting spot where it can easily be a half-day park, but you can also spend a full day without too much stretching. If you're pressed for time, you can just hit up all the rides, grab a bite to eat, and hop elsewhere. However, there's also the animal trails, the shows, and Planet Watch to add more to your day. Then you've got the two best re-rides in all of Disney, Kilamanjaro and Everest. Doing these during the morning and then again at sunset and night time respectively provides a very different experience. Then you've got Pandora, which also shifts dramatically between night and day. I feel like AK isn't as much of a full-day experience as MK and EPCOT, but it's not a true half-day park like HS.
>>2409443Yeah, I feel like people are dismissive of the zoo parts of Animal Kingdom despite them being pretty damn good zoo elements. Like I feel like a lot of zoos ended up having to step up their game in terms of theming their exhibits because of what Disney did.
>>2409443>>2409445The zoo elements are really good zoo elements, don’t get me wrong. Kids will love them. If you get there right at 8 and do all the trails and shows, you’re still done by lunch time. Unless you get stuck in queues for several hours, but hit those ones first thing and you shouldn’t.However, you could stretch it out if you wanted to do the things you say. Do a table service restaurant or character dining if you got kids (assuming reservations… good luck). But it’s still gonna be a half day for most people which is fine if you got a hopper or a water park option.
>>2409260I like the idea of an area with games and activities and meet and greets for kids but the Play concept and using this pavilion for that was a terrible idea anyway
>>2409447Yeah, I forgot to mention that AK has the best food options in WDW aside from EPCOT, which means you can have both a nice lunch and dinner. A half day will be sufficient for most people, but a full day isn't out of the question. Then again, I spent 6 hours just in Frontierland/Liberty Square on my last trip and 9 hours in the World Showcase the trip before that, so I don't really line up with the average guest. I either blitz through everything in a small amount of time or spend way too much time in one spot.
>>2408992Yep. Also, Intamin’s execs toured Cedar Point with their execs a couple years ago. I think they’re taking a break because of some of the problems they’ve had but some day they’ll get another Intamin.Enthusiasts started claiming CF won’t work with RMC too but that one doesn’t make sense, especially considering the issues they had with Steel Vengence were because of choices made by CF
It seems every time I go to WDW, I come back sick.>>2409395Whenever I go to WDW I always at least have to go to MK. For the other parks depending on the days I'm there there's a greater chance I'd go to Epcot than Hollywood Studios if I'm staying for two days. I stayed 3 days this time and started with HWS, MK, then Epcot. Animal Kingdom is not my favorite out of the four parks, though Everest, Soarin' Around Pandora, and Kali River Rapids are great rides. Dinosaur would be fun if it wasn't 90% riding through darkness. It's not Space Mountain.If you been to the parks multiple times, always try something new or different than just the usual routine. Example being one time I was in MK I did Tom Sawyer Island for the first time, another time I went to the Country Bear Jamboree in like since forever, and this time I rode Winnie the Pooh for the first time. It doesn't have to always be a ride.>>2409445I find Busch Gardens does a better job at being a zoo theme park, everything seems to be in better proximity of you. Being in AK once, never go from Africa to Pandora on the very west side of the park. There's nothing there, no shops, no food, just a path. Stick to going through the center hub, Discovery Island.
>>2409492Animal Kingdom is yet another example of them over-engineering. Over half the park is for a single safari attraction which is the only way to see many of the animals. They made this huge realistic savanna with animals but no other attractions or trails in it. The opposite of the Serengeti at BGT.
>>2409492>Kali River Rapids>Great ride.I'd say it's the worst ride at AK (aside from the spinner) and not even worth doing if there is any wait above 20 minutes. It's absolutely mogged by Popeye's.
>>2409497I find it incredible that they designed a rapids ride with (aside from the drop) zero parts where anyone gets wet.
>>2409496Didn't they get a huge amount of shit over the size of the enclosures when it first opened, causing them to rush around and improve them?
>>2409525I think that happened before opening
>>2409481they had a shaky relationship with intamin for a bit because of the absolute shenanigans that were happening with Millennium Force a few years ago, but they made amends and enthusiasts still like to act like it's a thing for some reasonthe only company that CP absolutely outright refuses to work with now is Consign for ride programming. And having worked there I completely understand why, consign is utter garbage
>>2409524Yeah, it is impressive in that regard. Went on it on a scorching hot day to cool off after always skipping it because my family would travel when it was cold. Didn't get a single fucking drop of water on me. Truly a marvel of imagineering to make a rapids that gets you less wet than Pirates of the Caribbean.
>>2409543Even if you don't get that wet on them, they should always have the belief you could get wet.>on a straight section, boat is building up speed and spinning>piece of white water coming up>everyone wonders who's going to take the brunt of the splashThat and fountains that turn on for 5 seconds out every 15.
>>2409549The smokestack on Popeye's is the best for this. You know at least two people, probably more, are going to get absolutely fucking obliterated, and everyone is just waiting to see how the raft lines up before laughing at whoever gets wrecked. River rapids are all about the schadenfreude.
>>2409540>consign is utter garbageThey did a bunch of B&M coasters in the 90s and 00s, I think B&M exclusively used them for a while. I can't speak to their current state but they were one of the top firms in the ride control field years ago.
>>2409540Well it was more than Millennium Force. Millennium Force never met its original capacity and the elevator lift cable snapped often though. There was the Shoot Rapids incident that almost killed several people. Top Thrill Dragster had Xcelerator had several incidents and TTC basically killed somebody standing in line a couple years ago. They wanted lots of money to fix Volcano. And I305 causes grayouts and blackouts and has a station wait at the most. So yeah they might both like intamin
1. Bilge Rat Barges2. Infinity Falls3. Jurassic World The Ride4. Journey to Atlantis5. Splash MountainSIGNIFICANT GAPN/A : Kili River RapidsNothing can really prepare you for how wet you will get on Bilge Rat Barges
>>2409817>Jurassic World The RideYou mean Jurassic Park River Adventure, right?Unless they already announced a revamp.
>>2409817Are we just doing Florida? Not sure because you said Jurassic World. Mystic River Falls at SDC is pretty good. No Ripsaw Falls? I’ve never been on Congo at BGT but some people like that one too. I won’t ride it because Intamin’s water rides have a tendency to kill people. Bluto’s is still my fav but I’ll only ride it if it’s 76 degrees or warmer and sunny. I like how it’s a little PG-13 with female riders
>>2409891>I won’t ride it because Intamin’s water rides have a tendency to kill peopleYeah you're not scared of it right anon
>>2409896Terrified. No not really I just don’t always want to get soaked either but being an Intamin potential death trap justifies the decision. I do get a little freaked out by any of those rides with giant thick cables because they sometimes snap and cut off limbs or worse. Still ride them though.
>>2409909>but being an Intamin potential death trap justifies the decision.Why is it a potential death trap?
How do you like your drops on water rides:>Rollers,>Wheeled vehicles rolling down the drop (not connected to any track)>Rollercoaster track.I know rollercoaster track allows for more airtime (although you can get lots of airtime on double drops with wheeled flumes) but if I wanted it to feel like a rollercoaster I'd rather just ride a rollercoaster. Wheeled cars going down a waterfall is still the most fun.Drops using rollers just never seem to have enough acceleration to feel any force (don't know if infinity falls is any different though).
>>2409912Killed a bunch of people in Australia on the same ride type as Congo. Injured several people at a park in Iowa including a kid who was injured pretty bad. Different ride type but still Intamin water ride rolled off the lift, flipped over, injured and nearly drown the riders. They have the worst safety record for water rides.
>>2410005I see your point but to be fair, the park in Iowa was half-assing all of its maintenance and operations, including using unapproved repairs and parts. They weren't following the manufacturer's inspection and repair procedures at all. The incident in Australia wasn't an Intamin ride. There was a drowning at Six Flags Over Texas in the late 90s or early 2000s where a raft flipped over, but it was the result of the park not using the six-chambered flotation ring that Intamin sold but instead using another ring with only two chambers. When one of them deflated it flipped. If the operator follows Intamin specifications and procedures + buys the proper parts, I don't think their rapids rides are any worse than others.What can be pinned on them was the Shoot-the-Chutes incident, a completely shitty design that wasn't ever repeated by Intamin afaik... their other water ride that had a fatality was Perilous Plunge at Knott's, I can't remember if that was purely the fault of the restraint design or if the women who came out was fatter than the restrain could accommodate. At any rate Intamin came out with a revised restraint after that happened.
>>2410089also didn't xcellerator at knott's have a cable snap that fucked up some kid's leg?
>>2410094Yeah, the kid and his dad. Similar incident happened at TTD in 2004 that hurt 4 people
How "urban" is Six Flags Over Georgia?
>>2410951You already know bro, you already know.
I like that Merlin have a load of fun with their marketing:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_g0G_qOC7d0Here's hoping that they do more than just fill the ride with screens...
>>2409817>Be yuropoor>Convinced dad to check out IOA on a US holiday cause mom, sister and I are potter nerds and the land opened the year prior>Spend most of the time in Hogsmeade but venture outside for a few rides here and there>"Man it's hot, let's go on one of the water rides to cool off">tfw Ripsaw Falls and PopeyeAnyone seeing us would've sworn we straight-up jumped into a pool or something jesus fuck we were not prepared. I realize a lot of water rides in western europe don't go this wet cause it rarely gets that hot here but god damn it was wild.
>>2411076JP gets you really soaked too, even for that type of ride.
>>2411076I got a rash on my dick from walking around in wet underwear after those rides.
ok which rollercoaster should i ride if i wanna blow my nuts off?
>>2411111skyrush at hershey park
>>2411111Any B&M stand-up
>>2411111A wooden wild mouse.Not many left now sadly
Has anyone been to Tivoli Gardens recently? There's a pretty decent deal for Copenhagen from Orlando and it seems like a decent place to kill a week. I don't think it could compare to the parks we have here but it seems like a "when in Rome" type of thing
>>2411076The funniest part is the water on pop-eyes is the same water in the lagoon which ducks and birds are constantly shitting in as well as god knows what else.
>>2410951I’d like to know this too. Same with Fun Spot Atlanta. SFOG is in Cobb County which is a mixed bag. SFOG is closer to Atlanta than Marietta and is technically in Austell. I checked the demographics of Austell and nearby Mableton and Adamville. Yikes. I thought about stopping here on the way back from a future Orlando trip but, given the demographics, probably not a good idea to have anything in your car you don’t mind being stolen. It seems much worse than SFGA near Chicago. I was hoping for a Kings Island or Kings Dominion which are just far enough from the city to be in safe white areas
2 x 14 Day Disney Park Tickets at £519 each (£1,038)Am I being idiotic even considering getting Genie+ and ILLs for all 13 days we will be in the park2 x Genie+ at avg of $22 per day (£520)Max of 2 Individual Lightning Lanes per day at avg of $15 for 2 people (£390)Thats an extra £900 for 2 people for what used to be free a few years ago (also we are staying onsite)
>>2411691Oh, and this isnt even including the extra £150 for MNSSHP that could potentially be on - so another £300 if we want to go to that.Fuck me, Disney have mastered the art of ripping the ass out of things
>>2411691If you're going to Disney's 4 parks for 13 out of 14 days, why bother with paying for virtual queuing? You're already going to be doing the same things over and over as it is.These types of "vacations" are just really weird to me. Going to an amusement park every day, Disney or otherwise, doesn't sound like a vacation. And going to Orlando for two weeks and only doing Disney sounds even worse.
>>2411691Have to agree with >>2411706, 14 days at Disney is too much, I think you'll get bored before it's over if you're not renting a car/Ubering around to do other things>also we are staying onsiteHopefully not budget
>>2411708No, staying in a Deluxe Resort>>2411706I get that this sort of holiday isnt for everyone, but we tend to rotate the type of holidays we go on. We really enjoy the thrill rides and the faux but very well curated atmosphere you get in Disney, probably because we have the good fortune to have travelled around a lot and experienced lots of other holidays and experiences. We last did the Orlando theme parks 6 years ago.2022 we did half of the Camino de Santiago & Irelands West Coast2021 we toured the entire Ring Road of Iceland for 3 weeks and camped / hoteled2020 - COVID2019 - We did Rome, Budapest, Berlin, Prague, Greece, Tenerife and London2018 - We did Australia and NZ for 6 weeks2017 - We did Orlando Theme Parks
>>2411692Guessing you're going September. You shouldn't need Genie+, the rides you'd want it for are lightning lane anyway. Just watch out for Labor day.Use the money saved on Universal passes. 7-8 days of Disney, 2-3 days of universal, rest for water parks and other misc. Remember to allow for rest/easy days. Parks like Epcot will knacker you out, don't follow it up with a 7am boarding pass day.>>2411706Lots of Brits absolutely go to Orlando and do theme parks almost every day. These are once a decade, sometimes one a lifetime holidays. Although we have a nice selection of theme parks, they don't have the budget of Disney/Universal (and are especially lacking with dark rides) and the few hot days we get a year are hell on earth at our parks (due to almost always being in school holidays)We don't go to Orlando for a relaxing time.I'm going for 15 days with family. I'm expecting to do parks/waterparks on a good 12 of those.
>>2411734Yeah, your average Brit is saving for multiple years to get to Orlando.Its like £2000 in flights alone, somewhere in the region of £3000/£4000 for accomodation, and probably another £2000 minimum in park tickets, plus £2000 - £4000 spending money.So you can almost be sure that in the span of 14 days, Brits will be trying to get their moneys worth and hitting up the parks 12/13 days in a row
>>2411712Nothing wrong with doing the things you enjoy and there are others like you. When I was 13 my parents took us twice in the same year and got us a season pass. I went every day, even if only a couple hours, but by the end I was kinda bored and just walked around. As an adult I enjoy relaxing at the pool or the beach more than parks.>>2411734>>2411743I've seen "parks everyday" Disney fans make the excuse of "I can do nothing at home for free" but doing nothing in the subtropics is a bit different than in the cold and snow. Plus I don't consider laying at the pool or a beach or even a waterpark and just relaxing and drinking as nothing. Even if I was stuck in Disney's bubble I wouldn't go to parks every day, minimum every other day. You're going to do everything multiple times anyways and they got nice pools and dining options plus the waterparks, etc.I can get behind anybody wanting to cram as much in as possible on a once-every-few-years (or ever) expensive vacation. There is just so much to do besides Disney, even in the touristy Orlando area. Universal and Citywalk obviously. Sea World and especially Discovery Cove. Busch Gardens, they have a free shuttle to many stops in Orlando included with admission. The beaches on either side. You can take a 2-day cruise to the Bahamas. Kennedy Space Center. Gatorland. Near Disney is a restaurant mecca off 192 by Margaritaville and their Sunset Walk shopping/dining area. Icon Park. Airboat tours. Glass bottom boat. Legoland with the original botanical Cypress Gardens (skip if you don't have kids though). Also not far from Disney is Old Town, the machine gun America and (mostly South American) food truck city plus the Fun Spots. If you don't have a car you can still get to some of these using public transport.But if you've done these things and traveled the world and Disney's bubble is what you enjoy, go nuts I guess. I would probably kill myself if I was confined to Disney for two weeks
>>2411734>Remember to allow for rest/easy days. Parks like Epcot will knacker you out, don't follow it up with a 7am boarding pass day.>We don't go to Orlando for a relaxing time.>I'm going for 15 days with family. I'm expecting to do parks/waterparks on a good 12 of those.There is a thread on the Disney World subreddit asking if they should include rest days and the advice ranges from "we go to parks every day except the day we leave" to what you say. Even if you're going once a decade this is insane to me, however, these people are regulars from the US who go at least once a year. I hope some of your park days are partial days at least.
>>2411712>We really enjoy the thrill rides and the faux but very well curated atmosphere you get in DisneyDisney is pretty light on thrill rides. Tower of Terror, Rock n Roller Coaster, Everest, maybe Guardians. That’s it.
>>2412004thrill rides, yes, but it's always lacked those really extreme coasters that make some people see stars. not that disney should build them, as it's more of a six flags thing.
rode this thing many years ago and it was so painful i thought my teeth were going to crack what with the way they were chattering. it was nothing like when it first opened, which led me to believe that cedar fair was just going to let it rot.i rode it recently and man, what a revelation. they must have refurbed the shit out of it because it felt brand new. and there was no midcourse brake. they let the trains just fly through. tons of airtime. not smooth like a B&M but not painful either. there's enough rumble to let you know it's a woodie.but god, the operations are horrendous. 2 hour wait an hour after opening. they take 4-5 minutes to dispatch one train and half of that is the fast lane. i'm glad i got there at opening and *only* waited 50 minutes.are all cedar fair parks run this shitty? lines crawled and everything seemed to have double the wait it should have. next time i go it's definitely going to be on a weekday.
>>2412144>they take 4-5 minutes to dispatch one train>are all cedar fair parks run this shittyI think some blame is probably on the IROC stuff they adopted, but people have said that Cedar Fair's ride operations have taken a major turn for the worse in recent years, with the exception of Kings Island.
does Cedar Point have single rider lines and are there any shuttles to get there from the airport?
>>2412142Nobody should build coasters that makes people 'see stars' because the GP won't ride them. This is why i305 is usually just a station wait; it causes people to grey out and even black out due to sustained Gs on the curve after the drop.Disney should absolutely be building more intense coasters. They already have two coasters with intense elements in RnRC with its launch and inversions and the backwards helix on Everest. Cosmic Rewind and probably Tron are also a little intense. These are all (or will be) very popular attractions and the people who ride these will also ride a more thrilling and intense Disney coaster.Universal is already doubling down on coasters. They're crowd pleasers. They don't need gigas. I would argue that nobody needs gigas, they can't build a ride that kills you so you have to make a very large layout to level out the forces and burn off speed and i305 is the worst at doing this. I haven't been on Fury, but at KI most agree that Diamondback is better than Orion. Hagrid's is the perfect middle ground and more popular than VC because it's more family-friendly with a lower height requirement and also the HP-theme helps. VC is still very popular. Disney has nothing like this.It doesn't matter if you wouldn't ride it or seniors wouldn't ride it or the morbidly obese wouldn't ride it or the height requirement is too high for kids under 10. It would still be insanely popular regardless. What this all comes down to is people who don't like coasters are the ones who say "Disney doesn't do intense coasters and doesn't need them". They don't speak for everybody else though. If it works at Universal it will work at Disney.
>>2412144People say Knott's has the worst ops in the chain. Kings Island has the best. Cedar Point is a mixed bag because they rely on seasonal workers including an international program. Kings Island has the Cincinnati area to draw from but Sandusky is in the middle of nowhere. The Steel Vengeance crew was amazing all year though and it finally lived up to its potential and hit a million riders.>>2412221No single rider lines and no international airports close by to shuttle from. Closest is Cleveland which is an hour away. Second closest is Detroit, almost 2 hours away. Closest major international hub is Chicago which is almost 5 hours away. Cedar Point is a great destination resort but mostly for people within a few hours driving distance. Mostly from Ohio and Michigan with a few from NE Indiana and NW Pennsylvania outside of the Holiday World and Kennywood spheres.
>>2412492Not so much Holiday World actually. That's close to Kings Island's sphere. Maybe Indiana Beach if that counts
What Disney really needs to do is start building now to counter Epic Universe. New construction, not replacements or rethemes. For the past 10 years both Disney and Universal are on par with the total number of new or rethemed attractions. About 12 or 13. Universal is about to open a whole slew of attractions in two years that Disney has no answer for.They really need more E tickets. Tron, if you could even call that an E ticket, is the first in over 31 years at the MK. Over half that park's life. What the fuck are they thinking? And the last thing they need is a fucking 4D flying theater or trackless dark ride. They lost all of their talent. Not that I care about the overrated hack Joe Rhode and his stupid earring. Gay leftist shithead. People like to jerk off to his boring Yeti museum though. They hired some Universal people years back but it hasn't led to anything on the level of Universal.
>>2412503>What Disney really needs to do is start building now to counter Epic Universe. Way too late for that. The lead time for a major new WDW attraction has got to be close to 5 years these days. I think behind the scenes there's a lot of strife and too many executives who want to stick their fingers in the pie... just my guess though.>Not that I care about the overrated hack Joe Rhode and his stupid earring. Gay leftist shithead.I wonder if he knows people think that thing looks bizarre (in an unflattering way) or if he presumes people think he's a quirky guy. Every time I see him interviewed I have a hard time following whatever he's saying because of his ridiculous earrings.
>>2412503They need to keep building out World Showcase. Like they made a huge song and dance number out of announcing Mary Poppins only for that to go down the memory hole during the covid cuts, but the park needs the capacity.
>>2412597Yeah their construction times are absurd. They can blame covid but Universal halted too (which they regret). When Disney resumed they canned a bunch of things and prioritized Guardians over Tron. Meanwhile Universal is building an entire park.>Every time I see him interviewed I have a hard time following whatever he's saying because of his ridiculous earrings.I could never get past the earring either. Judging by his neurotic tweets he's probably an attention-seeking narcissist with a big ego. Some people really love AK though. I never cared for it.
>>2412607They need to keep building at all their parks simultaneously. I get the impression they like to take breaks in between massive park projects but Universal is always building them which forces Disney to play catch up even if they don't want to admit that's what they're doing.
>>2412503Why does Joe Rhode live rent free in your head this hard that you have to mention your hatred for him in every thread? Chill guy, he's gone. He can't hurt you anymore.Also it's a moot point to hire people from Universal if you then don't give them the budget and creative freedom to let them actually do their job to the fullest. I assume they're being too railroaded into making safe cheaper IP rides because the important thing is the company's bottom line. It's baffling to me that Disney and Universal's recent approaches to the parks are the polar opposite, and clearly Universal is doing great right now and winning more and more people over. You'd think Disney would notice and also start investing more, but they're just content to rake in the money while customer satisfaction plummets.
>>2412963Good point about hiring from Universal. I didn’t think of it like that. “Welcome to Disney, we love your Spider-Man ride. Now here is Kathleen Kennedy and the Star Wars story group to tell you what they want you to do”As long as Disney fans keep sucking on Joe Rhode’s circumcised pecker, I’m going to continue to complain about him. My apologies. I’ll try to tone it down here since most of you seem to be on the same page. But I will admit even though I don’t like his contributions or narcissistic quirkiness, they don’t have anybody nearly that creative left.There is a thread on wdwmagic discussing the Splash Mountain “retheme” and how the “creative” director is a black woman who worked on Mickey and Minnie but otherwise has an accounting and finance background. And that all their talent is gone. She came up with the salt mound ingredients thing. I think the Spider-Man guy is gone too. But apparently they pulled Tony Baxter out of retirement to help. Their “creative” is a corporate environment full of diversity hires. Nothing good can come out of this. Maybe creative people don’t want to work for them given their restraints. Universal doesn’t seem to have this problem.
>>2412992The new splash mountain 'story' is so painfully overworked. Do they really think people are going to follow it, let alone care?They're doing an autistic level of "This is every possible aspect of new Orleans black culture" but almost treating the films story and characters as an inconvenience. Using a music style never used in the film rather than getting randy Newman to compose some for it just about sums up their approach
>>2412963>But apparently they pulled Tony Baxter out of retirement to help.That's fucking cruel. "We're going to rape your daughter, got any tips?"
>>2413070kek. Yeah pretty much. “Please help us ruin your magnum opus”
>>2413009Way overworked. The original Splash had a simple story based on the cartoon segments that most guests didn’t even notice. Guests don’t care they could just rework stuff from the movie with versions of the songs. Are there any other IP attractions based off animated films even like that? It’s not Star Wars or Marvel.
>>2413071They aren't ruining Indiana Jones Adventure yet.
>>2413074They've become self conscious of people complaining about Book Report Rides and have been avoiding them for a while now in favor of weird interquel/sequel shit. Like how Frozen Ever After is themed to Elsa holding an Open House at the Ice Palace after the events of the movie that finds very contrived reasons to recycle all the familiar songs and finds it necessary to have the Trolls use their magic to turn a rock into an iPad to let the Rock Smurflings rewatch the movie's ending over and over.
>>2413076I forgot he did that. It’s been in a rough state for years though in terms of broken effects. Was amazing when I rode it in ‘98. They still handed out decoder cards and the queue was normal and the interactive stuff all worked
>>2413080Yikes. I’ve never been on that one. Did not know this.
>>2413087Yeah, it's basically a boat ride version of your average princess meet and greet. It's all about building up to see Elsa, then she just sings here one hit wonder song and throws you out of the castle backwards after less then 30 seconds since they're recycling the Maelstrom track layout and she's replaced the three headed troll. Even the ride's ending, where you have Anna, Elsa and Olaf awkwardly singing In Summer takes place on a set that looks exactly like the exterior of the Frozen meet and greet next door.
>>2413091That still sounds better than this Tiana thing. I still don’t understand why they cloned/are cloning it and it’s 30+ year old Intamin ride system and layout at other parks. They even toyed with the idea of cloning a mirrored version next to it at Epcot for capacity. It’s popular because Frozen is popular, the ride itself doesn’t even matter. Disney would have never done this in the past. Buzz in Disneyland, for example, is different and modern than the MK version.
>>2413121Disneyland Buzz had to go into the Circlevision theater space so they could copypaste it in Tokyo and Paris.
>Access to Super Nintendo World at Universal requires a virtual line reservation, or waving an express pass (one time per day)>Eating at Toadstool Cafe requires a walkup reservation - no way to reserve from outside SNW>Or even know if reservations have run out for the day>Toadstool Cafe has a smaller daily capacity than SNW, so dining reservations run out MUCH faster than entry reservations >Toadstool Cafe is the only food available in SNW aside from water, soda and chocolate bars>It’s totally possible for hungry guests to enter Super Nintendo World and realize they can’t eat without leaving, possibly locking them out of the area for the rest of the day.It even has a kaizo trap. Nintendo thought of everything.
>going to Disney World during the cheerleading competition
>>2413347The food looks terrible too
>>2413507I knew they wouldn’t have the food from the Nip version. I’ll set my expectations low for the Epic Universe version because it’ll probably be the same as Hollywood.Hard to say how successful the land’s been so far since they limit attendance.
>>2413605It's a shame, you'd think Universal of all companies would know the importance of having food that's a real novelty. It isn't even the quality that's a bummer, they've also massively cut back on how themed the food is.
>>2413347>>2413507>>2413605>>2413623I'll let you all know what the land (and the food) is like in two weeks. Looks way too cramped though. I get that they had to tear down two soundstages as is, but maybe they could've torn down three instead.
>>2412221cedar point is kind of in the middle of nowhere, closest major airport is an hour drive away in clevelandif you're flying there you basically have to get a rental car
>>2412221You're going to have to rent a car to get to Cedar Point, there's really no practical way around it... the closest international gateways are Detroit and Chicago, Detroit is considerably nearer.Most amusement parks in the US are closer to larger cities and thus airports, CP is an outlier in that regard. One way to negate its location is to hit another park near where you're flying into. If you flew into Cincinnati, you can go Kings Island and CP. Flying into Chicago, you can hit Six Flags Great America. Pittsburgh has Kennywood.What country are you coming from?
>>2413640flying into chicago is a pretty good way to gohit up SFGA and then hop on I90 which goes all the way to sandusky. Never much traffic either since it's a tollwayBest airport to fly into for just CP is Cleveland, although it's not a super major international spot so flights can be slim pickings sometimes
>>2413663And pricey. Cincinnati would probably be the way to go. Once you’re 5 miles away from the city center, the demographics are majority white versus a city like Dayton to the north which has a 25 mile negro radius (unfortunately you have to drive through this on the way to Sandusky but at least you’re on the freeway… just don’t pull off there). Kings Island is in Mason which is pretty nice and safe and majority white.Cedar Point is a little over 3 hours from Kings Island and a very easy drive. Anybody traveling from afar should definitely hit these two parks at least. They’re among the best in the country, if not the best. Their lineups compliment each other nicely with KI having a few woodies.
Universal opens Epic Universe in Orlando in 2025.KEK YOUR MOVE DIZNAY!!!Sorry Universal, were too busy looking after our global empire of theme parks. Did you say something. Speak up. We cant hear you all they way from Europe and Asia
>>2413688yeah I live in ohio and doing a KI+CP trip is extremely based and easy. It's an easy drive from one to the other except for the mind bogglingly stupid interstate changes in Columbus, but once you get past columbus it's comfy country roads the whole way up norththe chicago+CP route that others mentioned is also doable but the drive to Ohio is pretty long, especially for someone from out of the country not used to it
>>2413715Agreed, Great America is over 300 miles from Cedar Point. That’s at least 5 hours and with Chicago traffic can turn into a 6+ hour drive. It’s a good park but somewhat redundant if you do the KI/CP combo. They do have a Schwarzkopf jumbo jet, an RMC topper woodie, an S&S air launch, and a B&M flyer though.I usually take 75 between KI and CP, avoiding Columbus. I think it’s about the same
>>2406014GET THIS SKINNY FUCK OUT OF HERE.DO YOU EVEN EAT ICE CREAM FOR BREAKFAST?
Two of the best parks in the US open in just two weeks. Dollywood and Silver Dollar City. I don’t think Big Bear Mountain is gonna be open at Dollywood just yet. Nothing new at SDC but this is the last season for the original Fire in the Hole (although it’s almost twin at Dollywood, Blazing Fury, isn’t going anywhere any time soon).
>>2413770I'll be going to Dollywood again this year during their Harvest Festival. I love that place so much. I want to go to Silver Dollar City someday.
So how fucked is Cedar Point from the train crash? It's 2 hours away from the site, I can't imagine the water will be usable.
>>2413798If that’s a serious question, most of the shit blew east into PA and NYCedar Point is far from where that happened
>>2413798If there's no Mayflies in June, then they're fucked. But as the above anon said, that hazardous death cloud blew NE toward Erie, PA. I'm aware of that 200 mile radius pic making the rounds on faceberg and twatter but it wasn't a fucking nuke with a symmetrical radius. It was carried the way a storm would blow and they tracked in NE
>>2413783I love them both. I give the edge to SDC because it has a cave tour and they still have some attractions that Dollywood got rid of. The train still gets robbed, they have Grandfather's Mansion which is similar to something Dollywood had years ago on top of the mining tunnel they got rid of last year. They still have their Flooded Mine and added a shooting gallery to it. They still have their river battle. Lightning Rod is better than Outlaw Run but Outlaw Run is still really good and operating most of the time. Time Traveler is amazing. They both have a lot of similarities and my memories overlap because of it. SDC has an S&S air launch coaster although not as intense as Maxx Force
New Intamin coaster car design. To me it seems designed to make it so you can't see the car or the track as you ride. Multi-dimensional coaster car? Maybe to go in the Alton Towers indoor coaster?
>>2414239Cool. I thought a manufacturer might try orienting seats this way sometime. I wonder if it swivels or rotates. My guess is no.
>>2414239Could it be the Donkey Kong mine cart? Probably not. Doesn’t look very mine cartish
>>2414299That's already existed forever.
>>2414239Great, so if anyone with long hair sits in the seat infront of you, you get a face full of hair the entire ride
>>2414299>Could it be the Donkey Kong mine cart?patent already exits
I just got back from Nintendo World in Hollywood. Crowds were great because of the weather and it was more fun than I expected, but holy shit I’m worried stuff is going to break fast. I saw kids hitting and jumping full force into the paintings, one of the key challenge alarm clocks has a hole kicked in it, and people are not prepared for how complex Mario Kart is. They’re expecting a fun ride, not a very elaborate video game. Those AR visors are gonna get scratched and beaten up before long. I know universal isn’t bad at upkeep, and almost everything in SNW is designed to be punched or slapped anyway, but holy shit. I hope they were anticipating this.
>>2415377I wouldn't buy a Harry Potter wand, but I know I'll absolutely buy a power band. I'm excited to experience Nintendo World for myself. Probably the Florida version when it opens, although I'd love to visit the California parks someday, take the real studio tour and all. And I'm more curious to go to Disneyland than Disney World these days.
>>2415377I'm worried about this too. I haven't been but from the videos, there are a lot of animatronics and objects moving. I've already seen a koopa not moving in one of the videos. That kind of stuff needs constant upkeep not to mention paint after fading in the sun. The land looks amazing, it's just gonna have a hard time staying that way. Universal used to not be as good at upkeep. I'm talking like 22 years ago when I lived in FL and has an annual pass. I remember dueling dragons and a large portion of a fiberglass dragon train damaged. Fixed by the holidays but it ran damaged for months
>>2408289Love this lil nigga like you wouldn't believe. My favorite "intense" coaster is probably Lighting Rod at Dollywood
Does anyone know a decent hotel in Atlanta? Doesn't need to be super fancy, but better than a Motel 6, and in a nicer part of town.
>>2415499Drury inns are my go to for a mid level hotel experience
>>2412144>are all cedar fair parks run this shitty?all cedar fair parks use IROC for their operations which inherently slows things down a bit. Knotts just has shitty operations in general tooKing's Island is the only one that is consistently good. Cedar Point is mixed because they always have staffing issues, they usually just stack all the best ops on specific popular rides
>>2415499Atlanta Marriott Marquis
>>2415429>I wouldn't buy a Harry Potter wand, but I know I'll absolutely buy a power band. I have both, and the power band was definitely more fun. It turns the whole area into a big video game, with easy and hard modes, secrets, easter eggs, etc. The wands might be more fun in Florida. They have way more “magic spots” there.>I'm excited to experience Nintendo World for myself. Probably the Florida version when it opens, although I'd love to visit the California parks someday, take the real studio tour and all.Florida’s Nintendo World will probably be spectacular, especially with the whole Donkey Kong area. Universal Hollywood is definitely worth doing though! It’s a tiny park but they really cram it full of stuff to do, and the studio tour is pretty fascinating. Waterworld is great too.>And I'm more curious to go to Disneyland than Disney World these days.You’re not alone in thinking that. It’s not uncommon for people who visit both to like Disneyland + DCA more.>>2415460>The land looks amazing, it's just gonna have a hard time staying that way. That’s exactly what I’m worried about. Well said, Anon.>Universal used to not be as good at upkeep. I'm talking like 22 years ago when I lived in FL and has an annual pass. I remember dueling dragons and a large portion of a fiberglass dragon train damaged. Fixed by the holidays but it ran damaged for monthsHoly shit, that sounds like how people describe River Adventure. Just blatantly fucked up. I hope they don’t give up on maintenance again.
>>2415686Yeah, I know the Hollywood park is kind of like the greatest hits version of the Florida park, but I love the real history it has as a movie studio. I want to see the Psycho house. And I want to see Waterworld, and that Secret Life of Pets ride looks surprisingly great.
>>2415691>I love the real history it has as a movie studio. I want to see the Psycho house. And I want to see Waterworld>and that Secret Life of Pets ride looks surprisingly great.Kino reasons to visit USH. The studio tour is fascinating and takes you through a bunch of sets that get reused all the time. Sometimes you’ll be watching a TV show or movie and realize oh shit, I know exactly where they filmed that! Waterworld is excellent (way better than the movie they based it on) and Secret Life of Pets is a great classic dark ride. I hope you have fun whenever you go!
Do you think the Disney Instagrammers have a good life, or is it completely false?Im quite partial to DisneyBabyChick
>>2416159I look at some of the ones I've occasionally watched like DFB and they average around 75K views, that's about $1200 a video (may be a bit more as travel is a very lucrative ad market), 4 videos a week, probably supporting one blogger and one editor.$16K a month, lets say $2K of that is expenses , $5k a month for the editor, $10K for the 'star'? This is all lowball estimates mind, assuming no perks from Disney, no direct sponsorship.
Six Flags Over Georgia opening day tomorrow. I hope they continue to have low crowds this year. I think my family is going to go to Atlanta first week of June. We're also going to go to the aquarium and the Center for Puppetry Arts. That place looks pretty cool.
Disney has been dead since pic related closed
>>2416423I've been a lot less interested in going back since then.
>>2416423>>2416438Sad I'll never be able to experience it. The stupid thing is I'm not even opposed to Runaway Railway since I'm an animator who loves the Mickey shorts, but the one they opened in Anaheim is so clearly and objectively superior to the Orlando one in every single way it makes you wonder why they even bothered putting it in Hollywood Studios at all. Probably being cheap and not wanting to pay those licensing costs.
>>2416348the atlanta perimeter contains the worst "people" by far in this state.>t. lived in the state my entire life
>>2408289For me, it's gotta be the classic.I don't understand the appeal of Disney/Universal parks for anyone older than say 18. Don't get me wrong, I love a good theme, but when 90% of your rides are just sitting in a room with a projector or an ultra slow car ride, I may as well just stay at home and watch TV. Maybe it's sour grapes as a flyover, but to me Cedar Point and Kings Island DEFINE an amusement park. Loads and loads of great rides with perfect airtime, inversions, G's. If you go midweek then there's basically no line and you can ride whatever you want.
>>2416749King's Island is great, really good mix of old and new stuff. I love some of their quirky coasters like Adventure Express and Flight of Fear (even tho the lapbars destroy my balls)
>>2416749I get the frustration with the oversaturation of screens in newer stuff these days, but it's all about the detail and craftsmanship of the themed worlds. Like there's a reason game developers studied Disney parks intensely when creating the early 3D platformers and that's why its interesting to see Nintendo entering the theme park space with their Universal partnership since its in some ways going full circle.
>>2416749I have the exact same feeling. Never understood attractions and people wearing costumes and what not. Even as a kid.On that note, what is the best amusement park in Orlando to go to for a focus on coasters? Going to have a day there in June (Pre summer holidays) and want to go to a park?Is Monday a ok day to go to a park or will every ride be closed to save costs.>>2408289For me, I have a huge soft spot for this one in Australia, first real coaster I went on where I was blown awayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nABRtFvHNvw
>>2417401Islands of Adventure has the best coasters in Orlando (Velocicoaster, Hulk, Hagrid) but only 3 (+ a kiddie)Seaward has more coasters but worse quality.If you can get over to Tampa, Busch Gardens have the best collection in Central Florida and is the most coaster-focused park in the state.Everything is open everyday, it's Orlando even a slow day is packed
Lol, a bunch of "teens" got into a massive fight at Six Flags Over Georgia today and police had to come in.
>>2417469Is it just me or has fighting and people losing their shit become more commonplace at EPCOT.Feels like every time im there theres a massive KAREN kicking off or dads who cant hold their drink getting into arguments and attempting to fight
>>2417469cant be surprised in the amusement park for the city of yankee transplants coming in to shit up the state and feral nogs
>>2417632Lots of booze available + shit loads of walking.People get a lot more drunk and irritable at that park. Not to mention the Frozen Ever After wait times.
>>2411706>>2411734Yeah, a couple of workmates of mine have been and my brother-in-law went last year, and they all went pretty much solely to hammer the various theme parks and stuff their faces with hotdogs and candyfloss every day.Florida seems like a pretty interesting state in general but Orlando is definitely an attraction for one reason only
>>2418079Miami and Key west are a popular once people have "done" Disney (although even then, they'll do a 14 day trip with 5 days around Miami then drive up to Orlando).It's worth noting for Brits that the holidays are very much encouraged to be 14 day all out trips. You can't even buy Universal or Disney tickets that are shorter than 14 days without extreme difficulty (and you don't really save any money).
>>2418092St. Augustine and Kennedy Space Center are also fun.
So it looks like Typhoon Lagoon is going to be the designated open water park when I'm there in September which actually suits my family as the slides are a lot milder (plus I prefer non-tube slides and it has a load of them). My mum really hated team springs decades ago but it looks like Misadventure falls is a lot less dippy and you go up the sides less.
>>2418649Same as us then.Heading in Sept. We'd agree that Typhoon is probably the better water park in Disney, but at the minute we are on the fence about adding a day in Volcano Bay.Its a much superior water park, but it tends to get busy as fuck.
>>2418664If it helps, I've found Volcano Bay pretty dead during September the past two years when I went. Only needed to tap into the water coaster.
>>2418099Both of which are good for a day or two. St. Augustine isn't very big outside of the historic district
>still no reopening date
>>2419126When Disney or Universal close a ride, theyre often pretty good with giving a reopening date. Often they beat that date (Kili Rapids in AK as a recent example)The UK is such a shit house of lazy and awful construction workers that every project goes massively over budget and beyond the promised date. Theres such a half arsed, ah sure leave it and see mentality with construction in the UKLook at the state of HS2
>>2419137Merlin are generally pretty good. If they don't set a re-opening date, 99% of the time it's because they're going to tear down the ride, other than that, they set a date and generally stick to it. Looks like both Jumanji and the Haunted House refurb will be open for the new season.Valhalla got fucked hard by covid, BPB weren't able to get the parts they needed and it fucked up their schedule. It's also a refurb designed to make the ride cheaper to run and more reliable so they're not going to spend extra money getting it back on track, just so it can open in the last few weeks of the season when it's cold and no one wants to ride a famously wet water ride.
Only theme park vlogs I like
>>2419835That's Jackie from Super Enthused.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ7GPimR5ywMandrill mayhem is doing full testing now. Literally babies first inversion but it's unique enough to be look, especially as there's a good chance you'll see families riding it together. Going to have insane capacity issues but at least it's a completely new addition, along with two new flats so it should ease the queues a bit for Vampire and Dragons Fury a bit.
official universal resorts concept art for donkey kong ride
>>2420387That looks so fun. I can't wait to ride.
>>2420387Genuinely interested to see what it's like as a coaster. Feel it's going to be like a wild mouse but without the hairpins. Think it's going to be fairly tame as I can't see those cars taking a lot of force.
>>2420387Individual carts.......So, potentially a large throughput, or very low given how many can operate at one time, which might mean a fuck tonne of block brakes
>>2420698Probably going to be comparable to Crush's coaster which has major issues with its low capacity A car every 14 seconds will give it around 1000 per hour but from my understanding, that would need a block every 7 seconds. Entirely possible they come up hybrid system though, you could alternate blocks so that only 1 in two manages speed, the other is just for emergency braking to get the cars closer without it being a tooth chipper.
do you plebs even appreciate the sheer kino that is tron legacy?
>>2413712>implying Disney doesn't care about what Universal builds>When the main reason they did Avatar Land and Star Wars Galaxy's Edge was to compete with Hogwarts
>>2416533>why they even bothered putting it in Hollywood Studios at all. Probably being cheap and not wanting to pay those licensing costs.They probably also thought most tourists weren't interested in vintage film history at that point. The whole idea of Hollywood Studios went from being about films to being inside films.I figured the great movie ride days were numbered once they slapped on that TCM sponsorship and added onboard narration.
>>2418684>pretty dead during Septemberlike early september?
>>2416533Well the Anaheim version is more extravagant since they had a higher budget to renovate the whole of that "Mickey's Toontown" area instead of just fitting the attraction inside the pre-existing Great Movie Ride building.
>>2420992Early to mid. Last year I went on the 7th and the year before on, I think, the 16th, and had no issue either time. No idea what it'd be like towards the end of the month though.
>>2407024It's called lying on the internet anon
>>2405677>6'3>230lb I can ride anything but some coasters are a bit snug. I'll lose 10 before going to cedar point this summer. Leg room can be annoying too, being 5'10 would be perfect for coasters
>>2405677im fat enough that the sidecar on hagrids motorbike was not comfortable
>>2421120Just put the donut down and eat a broccoli. Losing weight is not even hard, christ
>>2416749I understand their appeal, but not as one-off standalone parks and certainly not at the prices they charge for it. What I do not understand is the appeal of the Magic Kingdom to childless adult and why they visit annually to go on the same old children's rides over and over again. To be fair, a few of them have universal appeal but my point still stands.Cedar Point and Kings Island are among my favorite parks and I would take either over any Orlando park and feel lucky to live a few hours drive from each. If people want to keep throwing their money at Disney and lining up in long queues for their boring dark warehouses with screens, so be it. You really can watch some of these rides on YouTube and get most of the experience. Maybe have somebody splash some water drops on you for that extra 4D immersion, Disney loves that effect.
>>2421146>dark warehouses with screensIsn't Universal more guilty for that?
>>2417424Hulk over Mako is a hot take. Mako was the best coaster in Florida until Velocicoaster and Iron Gwazi opened. Hulk's overall layout is inferior to Kraken and the only thing that sets it apart is the launch into a zero-g roll followed by the cobra roll and vertical loop. That's it, the rest of Hulk is poor and it will likely give you a headache. Manta is considered the 2nd best B&M flying coaster.. although I personally don't care for the pretzel loop element. Feels like my head is going to burst and I can't breathe. Dangling on the final brake run waiting for the train in front to dispatch is also very uncomfortable. Ice Breaker is closed right now because they're taking out the "comfort" collars which will make that a much better ride.I can see somebody preferring the IoA coasters over SWO's and VC does lift is several notches, but SWO has an overall better coaster collection. Hagrid is a lot of fun but they could have cloned Cheetah Hunt and themed it similarly and it would still have 2 hour waits (and be fun because Cheetah Hunt is fun and thoosie haters can go to hell).
>>2421151That was a reference to their floorless dark rides specifically. Both Disney and Universal are guilty when it comes to screens, people tend to associate it more with Universal though for some reason. For example, I read a discussion thread on wdwmagic where somebody complained about Universal and screens only to say that Toy Story Midway Mania and Flight of Passage were their favorite rides and then try and make excuses about why they didn't count. The real reason they don't count for them is the pixie dust clouding their vision.
>>2421159>people tend to associate it more with Universal though for some reasonProbably because Universal Florida has a bunch of simulator rides packed together
>>2421171Seemed like Universal came out with a lot of 4D rides in a row. But still it’s okay when Disney does it any you’re a Disney fan.
>>2421183I mean Universal made up for all those 4D rides with 2 massive coasters.Meanwhile Disney just brought over Tron Coaster from Shanghai.
>>2421183It's probably because Disney still has the classic, non-screen rides. If you look at every addition since 2015 both chains have mostly just done coasters or screen rides (with the exception of Pets and Rise)
>>2421190Even Ride still uses screen parts like Gringotts
>>2421192Is this happening instead of that big London theme park?
When I was a teen through my mid 20s, I used to not care about theming, immersion, any of that stuff. I thought Disney was a lame place to go, Universal less so. I went to parks purely to ride coasters, no other reason, and I could ride them all day.At some point age catches up to you and your desires change too. The stuff I didn't care about at all become more interesting and important to me, cleanliness and operations mattered more as well. In those cases, Disney and Universal absolutely blow everyone else out of the water except maybe Dollywood, SDC, and a couple of other places. Six Flags and Cedar Fair parks just don't exhibit the value for me now that they once did, and I seldom visit them. I pretty much just wait for a friend to get free tickets to those places now.I can still do roller coasters easily, but riding them over and over isn't that fun anymore. When I was younger I wouldn't think twice about driving 8 or 9 hours to go to Cedar Point with friends. Now, I'm not sure if I'll ever get back. I'd like to, but there is only so much time I have and going to Ohio is a much harder sell to me versus Florida or southern Cal, or any number of destinations that don't have theme parks.Chances are it will happen to you too.
>>2421192How would this compare to that German Zeppelin hangar one?
>>2421194When I was younger.. and a teen.. and also in my mid 20s even, I cared quite a bit about theming and immersion. And Disney. And Universal. I also liked roller coasters too. Disney had talented imagineers, much shorter construction times, and good attractions that mostly were originals and not based (or only partly based) on IPs. For over 20 years they've gone in a different direction, introduced a terrible virtual queue product (both the FP+ and its current paid iteration), are creatively bankrupt and void of any talent, completely destroy beloved attractions, and charge several times more than they used to (and much higher than inflation), and IMO almost all of the attractions they've come out with have been mediocre to awful. I still like theming. But the older I get I have a better appreciation for regional parks. Regional parks are not just for coasters. They're also a hell of a lot cheaper. Sea World and Cedar Fair parks are clean... except for the occasional sketchy bathroom. And Sea World parks (including Busch) have very good theming in many places.
>>2421180Oh shit, F. He was a cool guy, not afraid to call Walt out on his shit.
>>2421193The London resort is never going to happen. It's a bunch of execs and designers sitting in an office, getting nice salaries for low pressure jobs, waiting for the investors to realise it's not going anywhere and pull their money. Just when it looked like it was going to have some action with planning getting approved, it 'unexpectedly' got Great Crested Newt'ed and it was back to the drawing board with a new design needing to be drawn up and submitted.>>2421192Looking at it, it's a combination water park and spa. It looks really nice but water parks have had a high failure rate in the UK due to the astronomical heating costs. I think Alton Towers Splash Landings is the only one that's had lasting success without closing or needing financial intervention.
>>2421212The thing that makes me most sad about Disney is them slowly removing their nice eateries. The small cafes where you could sit outside for 45 minutes with a cake and coffee and soak in the atmosphere. The fountain view cafe in Epcot used to be a cake store and you could sit outside, listen to the music, watch the fountain and generally get a great view. Then they turned it into a Starbucks and removed almost all the seating. Then they demolished it and replaced it with a huge noisy indoor only eatery selling a limited menu of mass produced items.They want you to pay loads for a meal, finish it quickly then hurry up and get into a queue for the next ride. It's especially frustrating as I usually visit with people who are getting increasingly old and need to have rests every couple of hours.This goes back to the 14 day theme park holidays that people couldn't understand. I do long holidays so I can do theme parks in this way. No stress, no rush, no knackering yourselves out by the end of the first week.
>Universal sends me a customer survey >Spend an hour informing them of every single issue I have with the park and how I could realistically see them fixing it>Know they will most likely delete it but it felt really good to absolutely lay into Fallon and Fast And Furious If they announce those rides are closing it was because I brutally bullied them over it
>>2421601Fallon could absolutely go because of how meaningless he is to non-americans. Going to keep the ride system though.
>>2421610>Going to keep the ride system though.The ride system is the problem. It's so stunningly mediocre.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICKzN58qkUIUniversal is making special effects experiences overseas. That's the type of experience that should go in that show-building.
>>2421612They've kept the Hannah Barbera ride system for something like 30 years and it's probably the tamest simulator system around, no way they get rid of it.
>>2421615>no way they get rid of it.It's simple. We bully them into submission.
>>2421601>Get survey.>Asks me to select the emotions Shreck makes me feel.>One of the choices is sexual desire.Had a good laugh on the shitter.
>>2421623If the KidZone construction project turns out to be Shreksual Harassment VR Shreksperience it's all your fault
>>2421617bully them how?by "voting with your wallet"?
Im counting down the days until Universal decides to open a ride dedicated to The Rock because he is a vain shallow fuck pretending to be a normal dude just It will be a bland, generic unassuming 4D ride where the audience falls into a dangerous situation and the Rock personally rescues everyone, but then tells everyone at the end of the ride that he didnt save everyone, we all saved ourselves and to keep staying positive and believe in ourselves
>>2421752The Rock was already in the Fast & Furious ride
>>2421761FF has to be the weakest ride in all of Universal. The sheer time, money and effort that went into creating it for whats a completely forgettable and regrettable experience is wild.....and thats including the Jimmy Fallon ride too
>>2405859Notch of Shame
>>2407061Reminds me of that tower ride the fatty got launched out of
Spoilers for The Curse at Alton Manor: https://www.towerstimes.co.uk/news/2023/03/13/alton-towers-resort-reveal-first-look-inside-the-curse-at-alton-manor/Sounds and looks far better than I was expecting for a between seasons rework.>Wild Mouse Poison>World Brand pins (quantity 80)>UG Products Corkscrew>Dolls eyes from Talbot streetLooks like they let the designers have a much of fun with it.
>>2421835*bunch of fun
>>2421525To be fair, there aren’t very many coffee bakeries left anywhere in the US, everything’s been Starbuck broke. Even historic. And Americans seem to be okay with it. little towns and villages
>>2421752That already existed with Disaster Starring You. The film you make in the pre-show has The Rock superimposed into the footage and the premise of the movie is "you are saved by the rock"https://youtu.be/HexyrZMuL9M?t=248
>>2421801He got launched because the ride operator adjusted the sensor so that it was green in a very unsafe position with a huge hole for him to slip out of. I don’t think you can fuck with restraints on B&M flyers like Tatsu. They lock your ankles as you pull down the harness. Once it’s locked you’re not coming out of it. People will sometimes have their legs up so they’re outside of them when they locked but I think there are sensors inside so they still wont dispatch. Once you leave the station you can’t further lock down the restraints like on other B&Ms but even if they somehow missed stapling a skinny person and it was at the maximum fat position and, you’re still not coming out. IIRC the drop tower restraints were made by GerstlaueR
>>2421869>ride operator adjusted the sensorBut the passenger has no control or knowledge of that. "If it locked she was fine" is the statement I have trouble with because I assume the terminal velocifatty had his restraints click
>>2421870I see what you’re saying. B&M flyer restraints are different though. Not that the guests would know anything about how the restraints work. If the flyer restraints lock you’re good. A B&M invert or hyper need 3 clicks for a green light (and both restraints are different from each other… and also very different from the flyer). The Icon Park drop tower though…. It’s pretty obvious the restraints should enclose your thighs. Obviously the big kid didn’t know or think about it but the ride operators should have
>>2421941On a side note, the drop tower is being dismantled this week. This is fucking infuriating because people die on thrill attractions all the time. In recent years being morbidly obese has been a risk factor. But even non-thrill rides like the former Disneyland People(re)mover have killed and remained operating for years. There is no mystery to why this guy died, they stupidly adjusted the restraint sensor for fat people without factoring in how it tilts (otherwise he would have lived). But the real reason the attraction is being removed is because he was black. If he was white the thing would be running today.
>>2421870>"If it locked she was fine" is the statement I have trouble withEach manufacturer uses their own restraint system. They're not all the same, and that is especially true for B&M flying coasters, which are perhaps the most complex coaster trains out there.Each seat's OTSR has two powered pins (in the abdominal section) that will engage with several sockets right under the armrest. Before a dispatch, the operator will command these pins to extend to their locked positions. There are proximity sensors inside the train that know the exact positions of these pins. If the pins go to lock and extend too far out or do not extend far enough out, the control system knows that and will prevent a dispatch. The problem will be displayed on the operator's console so they know which seat(s) are out of compliance.There's no other way to get a train out of a station, even tampering with the manual release wouldn't work because the control system will still know that the restraint is out of position. If someone is too fat, they can't get the harness down to the first socket position, the harness pins can't engage, the control system knows it, and there is just no way you can send a train out like that (in normal operating mode).A worst case scenario would be what >>2421869 touched on, dispatching a train with a rider's legs out of the ankle restraints. That has happened before. Operators have to look for that as trains roll out of the station, and they can stop the train on the lift and someone can correct the problem there. Even if they don't, the ride was designed with such an error in mind and their feet won't hit anything except other riders' legs.
>>2421951I get that rides these days are increasingly safe with more and more layers of redundancy built in. However that is why they are called accidents that take a chain of failures in order to take place.Was at Silverwood park and pussed out on riding Aftershock because 25% of the train was out of orderhttps://youtu.be/YajdBojqBsw
>>2421962I didn't say an accident can't happen, I said it's impossible to send out someone too fat to ride on a B&M flyer because of their unique restraint system.
>>2421951I wonder what it would feel like riding with your legs outside of the ankle restraints? I wasn’t sure but thought there was sensors to prevent them from dispatching but now that I think about it, that doesn’t make sense in an empty seat. To me the experience it already uncomfortable as it is. I can deal with the pretzel loop intensity, it’s the final brake run waiting that really sucks. Having your legs dangling on top of it would be…. Interesting
>>2421984>I wonder what it would feel like riding with your legs outside of the ankle restraints?Probably frightening and uncomfortable, but it's unlikely to result in an injury. Like the OTSR, the ankle flaps have a sensor for the control system to check their position. Occasionally someone will sit down and not put their legs in the right place, and pull the OTSR down (which normally closes the ankle flaps with it). Letting someone go over the lift without their feet in the flaps is purely an operator error. Most of the time the crew catches it and stops the train on the lift to correct the problem there.I'm with you on how uncomfortable flying coasters are when you're stuck in the flying position. More than a couple of minutes and it really sucks. That was why Six Flags ordered them with dual stations... in theory that was supposed to alleviate the problem, but given their slow operations and the ride's short running time, stacking is a given on most cycles. Vekoma had the right idea with having the trains lay down in the station (rather than B&M's trains swinging upward) and coming into the brakes with riders on their backs facing up.
>>2421995I never got to experience any Vekoma flyers but their orientation always sounded better than with B&M flyers. Since they coexisted with the same era as their SLCs I always imagined they were overall not very comfortable and with that skeletal Arrow-style track..I always wonder why B&M couldn’t have designed the final brake run to provide power and at least straighten the seats but I’m sure it’s not that simple and there are probably safety concerns
A fence is up inside the attraction and the ultrasaurus is gone. /ourcripple/ might have gone to the chiropractor finally.
>>2422900I'm very glad to hear it. Felt bad looking at that thing.
>>2408479They are very close to everything and very peaceful and luxurious.
>>2405537Went to Epcot recently. Lines were way too long even for Starbucks. They had zero vendors or shops open. Spouse refused to wait in a 3 hr line for Guardians. It kinda sucked. Used to be my favorite park.
>>2421190One thing I hate is that they had quality stuff to make rides from when I was a kid...Beauty and Beast ect...the recent stuff is so bad. They even ruined Buzz Lightyear!
>>2422937>recentlyYou went during spring holiday. The fuck did you expect?
>>2422937Everyone is saying that the lines at Disney World are a major problem, but they keep getting longer, somehow while the place keeps getting more expensive. I don't get it. It seems like they've got to do something to fix it, but I don't know what?Would it be better if they got rid of their complicated Genie+ whatever and just did an Express Pass system like Universal and Cedar Fair? No waiting for a time or anything, just pay a lot of money and you wait in the shorter line. I think that would be a more satisfying system for the people using it, even if they have to wait slightly longer in line it's less complicated and stressful, and since fewer people would be using it, the regular line would probably move faster too.
>>2421194Yeah I abhor coasters now. I am too old and kinda fat. I don't want to be jostled. I feel like Disney used to be such a clean, fun, amazing, wholesome experience for middle class families. Nostalgia is powerful.
>>2421212Seaworld is so frikkin beautiful and relaxing
>>2421525Well said. Honestly its the little things like this that make me suffer inside.
>>2405537I still remember when these amazing things came out.
>>2422940They have to get back to old values before the liberals. Keep local folks happy. Get rid of greed. They need to continue expanding, hiring more workers and more rides so that lines stay short.
>>2422939I went when the kuds are off school like most people. not sure what your point is. I'm not going to pull them out on a school day to go to Disney.
>>2421612How crowded do you think Marioland will be this Summer...sigh
>>2422950I mean what did you expect though? Of course theme parks are going to be slammed during spring break. And pulling your kids out of a school day to go to a theme park on an off-day so the lines are 10 minutes long is one of the coolest things you can do as a parent. They are only young once. Some of my best memories as a child was my mom waking me up on a random Wednesday to let me know it was a Universal/Disney day. I'd walk into class the next day looking smug as shit.
>>2422937>Spouse refused to wait in a 3 hr line for Guardians.They removed the virtual queue?
>>2422940The parks all need more crowd soaks. Shows that can take up 1000+ people for an hour, more seating areas etc.Ultimately though, I think they need another location in the US.
>>2422965I can't do that. I have a job
>>2422976We wasted our whole day trying to get in and they closed the window at 2. As soon as you tried, two minutes later the lottery was gone.
>Blackpool pleasure beach confirm Valhalla soft opens in AprilOnly took 3 years to refurb, hope it was worth it.
>>24229845th gate villain-themed park for the growing demographic of cringe childless adults baybee
>>2423012I think with Epic Universe that Florida's going to be at saturation point for parks. It would be great for tourists to have another park to spread out crowds but I don't think it would make anywhere near the money Disney would need it to make.
>>2423021>I think with Epic Universe that Florida's going to be at saturation point for parksNah. Several countries are climbing to almost first-world status and those citizens are going to be flocking to Orlando in droves. Florida's population is exploding. It's all part of why the parks today are so crowded compared to even 10 years ago.
>>2422984>Ultimately though, I think they need another location in the US.Yeah, this is the answer. And it would go somewhere just outside of Dallas. It would also have to be laid out like a Universal Orlando-style resort and the main park would still need to be a castle park despite being redundant. If it’s not, it won’t divert crowds. The locals will hate it and say fuck off we’re full. But they do that anyways. They bitched about Legoland New York. They’re bitching about the tiny regional Universal kiddie park (which would be within the same region). And they bitched about Disney’s America and think they’re bitching paid off when actually it was the failure of Euro Disneyland that sunk that project.Or they could be really ballsy and build something in the north but enclose it for year round operation but I doubt itAlso new bread?
>>2422944I agree, it’s a beautiful park. The festivals are just as good as Epcot. If not better, the one going on now has some good food. They do try to shekel and dime you but that’s a side effect from having cheap passes. If it was “Disney’s SeaWorld” it would pull 9-10 million guests a year. It might also be Disney’s best park. As a stand-alone overall park, it’s second for me behind IoA
>>2423084>As a stand-alone overall park, it’s second for me behind IoAI meant in Orlando.
>>2422940>Would it be better if they got rid of their complicated Genie+ whatever and just did an Express Pass system like Universal and Cedar Fair?Better for customers? Absolutely. Better for the investors? No.
>>2423080>new bread?will be up by the end of tonight, promise
>>2423091I think they’ll do it. Return times are antiquated. They can price it however they want and still make the same amount or more and people will buy it. And it won’t solve the problems. The problem is everything having a virtual queue. The lines moved great after they got rid of FP+ and before they rolled out the new one. They looked long only because they’ve changed the lines over the years because of FP+ but they were moving. And rides that had station waits or no lines in former times were back to that again… but everything has a line again now. Disney parks would be better without it at all (bad for investors)
>>2421525I was stationed in VA and went to Busch Gardens almost every weekend. The theming was always subtle and beautiful. Not to mention how fun Hall-O-Scream was. I can’t wait to go back again.