Is this a dumb idea? China are not currently offering any tourist visas but you can apply for an X1 student visa if you study for more than 1 semester. I was thinking of applying to a 1 year course (fees are <2k and cost of living isn't bad) at a Chinese University. I am unvaccinated but I figured if I am willing to get tested it shouldn't be a big issue now China is moving away from zero covid.
Go to Taiwan instead; it's better.
>>2395796I want to experience life in urban China. Taiwan seems quite westernized and boring in comparison to somewhere like Chongqing , and offers none of the impressive futuristic biome shit that Singapore has.
>>2395784Not a dumb idea. Doing it right now, it's based. >>2395803Go somewhere other than Shanghai though if you find Taiwan westernized and boring.
>>2395833what city are you in? can the unvaccinated get by?
>>2395834I'm in Shanghai. You could theoretically "get by" if you managed to get into the country; AFAIK they still require vaccines (if you don't want mRNA just get one of theirs from a different country/J&J)
>>2395784I want to do this for my masters in statistics, good idea?
Chinese are very racist toward westerners, you're warned...
>>2395844That's because of the toxic identity politics spread by America politicians and it's media.
>>2395784It's smart and way better than the weeb/jap choice. I highly suggest going for Mandarin and being in somewhat a business env, e.g. shanghai or such. Vaccinations can be whatever, you only need a doctor note, and not a covid passport - take that as you will. Suggesting to not have covid or lie about shots is a bannable offense on /trv/, so, I am not advocating that at all jannies. >>2395837Worthless if you're a westerner. A masters in Chinaland is worth less then shit. >>2395844It depends, if you'e black or african yes, if you're white, no, if you're blonde and blue eyed you are a good. >>2395849Not really, most Chinese like americans because they enjoy the goyslop of NCAA, and other shit. Granted those are the niggers of Chinea but they can be great new friends in a new country. It's great to make friends, business and learn the langauge but you need to resist the urge to coom, prostitution is cheap in the country, not even $20-30 USD and if you're in skyscraper city, you start at the top and walk down - I've made great friend sjust waiting for the elvator for this lol but if you're going for school/uni don't fuck the students too much. long term gf, and cheating on the side is *Acceptable*. t. china commer
>>2395862I am white with brown hair and blue eyes, not ugly or short but not chad. Hopefully some cute local student will will speak English. I have emailed some admissions people because all the websites and janky and useless
>>2395803Taiwan isn't westernized. If you've never been to Asia for long you won't notice the difference. Singapore may be a "super cool cyberpunk biome" but that's also because going outside during the day is nigh unbearable all year for long periods of time. Taipei on the other hand only has that going on during summer. It's not necessarily better than China, but if you're applying for chinese study scholarships, don't limit your options to the mainland. >>2395875Dont worry too much about what you'll look like. I've seen some black dude fuck more women than good looking dudes just because the former had game. Just don't be fat.
>>2395883'Westernized' was the wrong word, but there are many cumskins and expats there. I want to go somewhere more immersive for a year to really get a taste of chinese culture. I was thinking Qingdao or Chongqing, Chengu and Hangzhou maybe also. The cost of living is also lower in 2nd tier mainland cities. I hope to not see many black or fat people at all
>>2395985Chinese colture doesn't exist anyomore in mainland, got all deleted. They'll see you as a cash bag while being racist (like most asia) but way worse. Chinese are very cold and cruel population. Never going back.
>>2395992>Chinese are very cold and cruel population.in what way? you seem to have a baseless dislike of chinese people
>>2396005Glowies are told to hate Mainland China.
>>2395834My unvaccinated mother could get a visa and enter China in August 2022 when restrictions were crazy. So yes. You can go to China without any jab.
>>2396011what visa though? that is encouraging regardless
>>2396014Family visit visa. But yeah, regardless of any type of visa, back then it officially said “to bring a vaccine certificate IF possible”, not must.
>>2395784less than 2k for a year is really good. with accommodation, food, etc I'm sure you could be in China for a year on $7000-$9000 easily. >>2395883>Taiwan isn't westernizedyeah it is. Taiwan is a mix if china, japan, and the west. >>2395844they think everyone white is american. so they mostly care about you being american. unless your skin is any other shade. (i've asked 2 different mainlanders and they both told me this)
are the tier two cities good for cooming?
>>2395784>Studying in China>Is this a dumb idea?yesall you'd do is throw your money away to get a shitty degree not even worth the paper it's printed on. to top it off you'd be forced to spend your time in an abject shithole with awful cunty people
>>2396082how is studying a language in another country ever a bad idea? I agree with the university thing though. But if you showcase the skills you learned instead of the paper, it'll be ok.
>>2395985>many cumskins and expats thereHave you ever been there ? Jesus christ dude. You gotta start doing some real research and stop listening to whatever shitty /pol/ rants you find on 4chan. Fucking delusional.>yeah it is. Taiwan is a mix if china, japan, and the west.And China is a mix of itself and Japan, and the west. And so is Japan with China and the west. The admixture is slightly different depending on the country but the western part is practically the same for all. You larpers should at least spend more than a week in the places you talk about before you open it and talk utter shit.
>>2396011Fair enough. I went back in January 2022 and they asked for proof. Maybe it was only proof that you had two doses if you took it. You might be right.
Just wait until they open up. Chinas economy depends on tourism, they will open up fully soon.
>>2395796No it's not coon. Taiwan is like watered-down Japan.
The city you posted is Qingdao btw, nice city and former German colony.
>>2396082>all you'd do is throw your money away to get a shitty degree not even worth the paper it's printed on.I already have a degree, I'd be going there to do a 1 year intensive language learning program at a University there. I wouldn't go to China to do a bachelors/masters degree.
>>2396222I quite like the idea of living a student lifestyle there for a year. Dorms and university fees are cheap and I think if I went as a tourist I'd find it harder to socialise. I like the idea of going before other tourists flood back in as well. Flights will cost me not far off $1000 so I would have to stay there for at least a month to justify it anyway.>>2396227Qingdao is one of my favored places to go to
>>2396224I'd fall on my ass. That is genuinely one of the most impressive things I've seen all week.
>>2396005They're paid pentagon shills.
>>2396258>I already have a degree, I'd be going there to do a 1 year intensive language learning program at a University there. I wouldn't go to China to do a bachelors/masters degree.I'm looking into this kind of thing.I have a STEM degree from a top 10 USA university; I just want to learn a language and maybe take archery class Which Asian unis are we looking into bros? National Taiwan Uni would be on my list.Some sort of Thai language program tooI'm only going to go if I lose my $250k/year job that I'm working from Philippines though (laid off or fired). You might know me as BGC anon in PH threads
>>2395784I took this pic! And to answer your question: no.
try not to get your organs harvested, OP
>>2395784Think about it anon, all rich Chinese parents send their parents to international schools.Come to your own conclusion.
>>2396333As I said I already have a degree from a Western university, it was partnered with a Chinese one and filled with rich Chinese people. I think applying for a 1 year culture and language learning course seems to fit my eligibility and budget and would be very fun and rewarding.
>>2396086>>2396258why the fuck would you waste time learning chinese?enjoy the bliss that is not being unable to understand those fuckwits
>>2396224>No it's not coon. Taiwan is like watered-down Japan.
>>2396376I have only been to Asia once and that was briefly to India for a wedding. I see pictures of modern Chinese cities and find them compelling for whatever reason. Quite expensive to visit + no tourist visas, however for a relatively small amount of money I could immerse myself in the culture, pay extremely cheap rent / make friends easily by staying in university accommodation, unironically maybe learn something and maybe date some chinese girls. I have always been casually racist about China and think of them as somewhat weird and cruel people, so it would be interesting to me to see if I am right or wrong, and whether the West lies about the Chinese or not.
>>2396377Do you have to wear a sleeping mask because you glow at night?
>>2396333Rich people all around the world send their kids to international schools.Please tell me what kind of conclusion I shall come to.
>>2396377Hoes mad
Question about the Chinese internet censorship: will vpns used for remote work with American companies be banned?
>>2396486VPNs are not banned in general, you'll be fine.
>>2396379Ironically I went to China hating blacks and came back hating white people (mostly). Still hate black Americans though, just not all black people. Chinese and Asians have always been neutral in my eyes.
>>2396503Black Americans are completely different from the blacks I've encountered in other countries. I've been to Ethiopia and Zanzibar and they were both great.
>>2396453>implying
>>2396506This
>>2396503>came back hating white peopleahh, so the shill shows his true colors
>>2396541or maybe living in China was an eye opening experience that made him realise how boring, selfish and dumb white people are
>>2396541Anon once you deal with retarded expats who won't shut the fuck up bitching about how "x isn't like in my country!" You will start to hate them too.
Chinese are cruel
>>2396506Africans who come to the U.S call them lazy and entitled too.
>>2395784china has some decent cities so far but the whole country is still developinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXAdQukJ3jk https://youtu.be/y9K-FhE3AfE?t=472https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDX2bFetyNAhttps://youtu.be/Lnqswmv5lqU?t=2529https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBxBKf4tmuYhttps://youtu.be/i5kQ-oVLyj8?t=349https://youtu.be/O3Q0Frnxonw?t=659https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijmWZwPDIBAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKia4aFNnE4https://youtu.be/AOu07lPOgSg?t=11https://youtu.be/GjVuQ7pYJ-I?t=12 https://youtu.be/aJz4OZ-nC10?t=1595https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mblWnsP57pAhttps://youtu.be/o1S48lrwG5U?t=762https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biF1tR876Mshttps://youtu.be/w12RPgJ4EH4?t=1272https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKEMqE6Ooichttps://youtu.be/zeFi9ggedYo?t=1398
it would be cool to visit guilin and also that one place with the avatar mountains but i forget the name https://youtu.be/KoLY85uJcC0?t=11
>>2399585cool, which ones would you recommend the most for a visit?
>>2396005dont listen to him, the Chinese are actually some of the most welcoming people in East Asia, especially if you speak the language. As much as I love Koreans and the Japs, they can be fair cold and insular compared to the Chinese.
>>2396453Is dat Shecago?
>>2395992>t. Butthurt mutt
>>2396503>Go to China>People have actual hobbies like drawing, calligraphy, languages, etc >Go back to America>People's hobbies consist of Netflix and video gamesIm positive it's the way American cities are laid out that encourages this lazyness. People in the US would rather stay home than deal with shitty traffic or shitty public transit.
>>2400345do the girls shave?
>>2396224Taiwan is Japan with SOUL
>>2395796No. Let the retards stay in commie land. I don't want them ruining this place.
>>2395784>China is moving away form 0 covidThey aren't
>>2395803>Taiwan is westernizedOnly in that they don't eat bugs and dog. It's far less westernized than Japan, Korea or any big Chinese city.
>>2400426>commie is when ant-mutt. ok mutt
>>2395784>Is this a dumb idea?NopeChina is indeed moving out of the covid phase, and it's been emptied from the sperg sexpats. It's the ideal time to go experience the urban citylife now.