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Is it really as bad as they say ?
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Was just there a few months ago.

Downtown is predictably apocalyptic, a complete shithole. It’s no worse than LA or SF, but that’s not saying much.

Stayed with friends in one of the neighborhoods outside of the core city and had a great time. The parks, breweries, restaurants are really quite good. Easy to get around. I was expecting so much worse and was pleasantly surprised.

We then went camping and hiking in the Columbia Valley Gorge which was fucking off-the-charts beautiful, good wine, spas, kitesurfing,
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haha yes. get motel next to airport

> drawer smells like blow
> hallway stairs smell like hopefully animal shit (not human)
> someone is being arrested as I'm leaving and we checked in at the same time and he gave me this weird look which was why he was arrested later apparently for whatever he knew

i only stayed there for like 8 hours to catch my flight and fuggin' left after that.
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i recommend flying into eugene airport and roadtripping down to at least northern cali and hitting up national forrests/hot springs

some weed etc would be a fun vacation DURING SUMMER/may
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>>2329534
obviously take scenic highways, go to redwoods, etc...
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Anywhere on the coast and 100 miles past that in america is a horrible place to live, all crime ridden shitholes.

The only exception is Maine and Massachusetts, they are great states with coasts lines but they are the ONLY exceptions.

If you want to avoid the bad parts of America, Just avoid the ENTIRE south(yes including Missouri, Tennessee, kentucky), all the shitty midwest states like Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, Wisconsin. After that it's just research on the crime rates.
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>>2329522
worse. can't put it into words
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Here was from last month when I had a job there. Every intersection off the highways has multiple panhandlers on every corner.
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Here's another one of a schizo holding up traffic on the 5
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>>2329526
>winefag
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>>2329691
looks like albuquerque but with pleasant trees
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>>2329522
I live here. The scene from your pic is pretty typical. After a while you get used to it.

Sometimes I see homeless people just lying face down on the ground, no shelter, usually shirtless. they might be dead, no way to know.

The worst part is that other Portlanders can't go 5 minutes without talking about politics. You might think they'd talk about how to fix their town. But no, It's all just sperging about national elections and Trump. It just never ends.
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>>2329787
Portland is much worse. You'll see rows of shanties and RVs everywhere. The Pacific Northwest is probably the dumbest region of the country. They'll give these bums entire streets, parking lots, and hotels. Fuck your property value if they give them your street.
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>>2329522
Worse. I always take what faggot fox news has to say with a grain of salt, but when they talk shit about Portland they're going way too easy on it and it's obvious they're even too scared to go there. Unlike San Francisco where there is safe and nice parts of the city, nowhere in Portland is free of cracked out homeless, burnt out abandoned rvs, or semi permanent shanties on public spaces. Honestly I continue to be amazed at the size of some of the homeless shanties. Those resourceful dirt folk make some big maybe 1,000sqft shelters in places. Oh yeah, there's needles and human shit basically everywhere you go (and probably none of the homeless are pajeets which is also impressive that they can beat Indians at their own game).

>t. Lived in Vancouver across the river the past two years
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>>2329974
lol, Vancouverites too scared to go into the real city. I like it this way, it's like the Wild West. Filters out the weak tourists.
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>>2329559
>avoid the coasts
>avoid the South
>avoid the midwest
>but Massachusetts is great
Please share your drugs with me sir
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>>2329974
portland is still a lot safer than somewhere like LA tho and i'd feel comfortable walking around any part of it.

homeless people generally aren't violet, just super gross.
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probably should take PrEP incase you step on a needle
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>>2329522
>Is it really as bad as they say ?

Sometimes.
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>>2330047
I go to Portland all the time anyway to bang tinder dates, not like Vancouver is far from your blue haired 'wild west'
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>>2329522
not at all.

downtown is full of homeless but if you stay in NE Portland you’ll have a great fuckin time

Great breweries, restaurants, thrift/oddity/novelty stores, the people are down to earth - the weather and geography are amazing

plus their Japanese garden is the best I’ve ever been to
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>>2329955
I mean homelessness should be a federal issue but since the west coast is really doing the lions share of the work we might as well adopt red state policies and become super unfriendly to the homeless. There will be a mass homeless exodus to other states and in the way border states have been complaining about dealing with the immigration crisis, red states can see what its like to deal with the homeless crisis.
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>>2330439
We should just give them all enough fentanyl to die in peace.
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>>2330446
I wouldn't mind that.
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>>2329522
there's like 3 or 4 decent blocks, that's it lol.
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>>2330172
>NE Portland
>Literally right next to MLK
Nah, even northeast isn't that safe. It's decent and Alberta has a lot of good spots to drink and eat (Pig Patas Tacos is amazing). But because it's the hip part of town the homeless, crazies, and blacks also go there to try and get money off people.
>The people are down to earth
Since when does seething at incorrect pronouns mean down to earth?
>Japanese garden
Yeah, it's awesome. Just a matter of time before it burns to the ground from a homeless induced fire just like any other spot of greenery in the city though.
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>>2330446
Agreed. Too bad the cops just busted a guy with like 50,000 fentanyl pills and a few pounds of coke laced with it as well.... That would have helped clean up some of the riff raff
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Downtown and Portland are apocalyptic at this point and I’ve lived here 37 years Portland has always been hippy dippy weird but the last few years have really damaged the city there has never been real leaders here it’s like if the 60s never ended and there are no adults so it’s tons of homeless with drug or mental problems usually both on the street

Oregon has beautiful scenery the weather is actually not as bad you think visit the coast and the gorge mt.hood most of the state is very safe actually and people are pretty friendly like the coast lives off of tourism maybe even visit the Indian casino chinook winds in Lincoln city they have table games and a Sportsbook slot machines it’s a fun time and it’s right on the beach
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However you get to Portland, always try to make a trip to the Japanese Garden. Very serene, especially on rainier days
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>>2330439
We actually need to bring back some kind of institutions for people with severe drug or mental problems regan and the folks in the 80s were wrong if my taxes go up 100 or 200 dollars a year wouldn’t that be worth it for nice clean city streets and people with schizophrenia or drug addiction getting treatment I know the many youngins here works just kill these people but I’m telling you genocide hurts the soul some of these bums could be productive members of society
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>>2331082
>if my taxes go up 100 or 200 dollars a year wouldn’t that be worth it for nice clean city streets and people with schizophrenia
This is what they tell us with every tax increase. it never works that way. The tax money just disappears with no visible result.
>some of these bums could be productive members of society
No, no they can't. The best we can hope for is that they'll stop destroying society.
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I came home to my parents and there were 3 homeless camps within ~100 feet of them
I didn't even mean mug them but just wandering around, saying hello/ looking at them was enough and they all packed up and left soon after
If you wanna deal with the homeless thing you have to do it on an individual level. There are enough sois and sjws around who are easy marks for them most will leave you alone if you look like you have one functional testicle
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>>2329786
fuck off philistine
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>>2329786
>Trusting people that drink bitch water.
Yeah, no.
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METH IS THE PROBLEM, NOT HOMELESSNESS

remember maybe 10-15 years ago, homeless people were just some old guy panhandling on the corner, sure he was unsightly too look at but never dangerous, crazy, or towing 7 shopping carts full of trash.

the problem we have is meth ruining peoples lives and they end up homeless. sure you could house them, but they will still be deranged methheads.

deranged methheads and dope fiends are the problem. they are just homeless as a result.... theres still a few homeless out there with clean tents or just living out a van cuase rent is too high.

but these methheads are ruining everything for everyone
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>>2331117
This. I'd absolutely pay more in taxes if I knew it would solve the problem (solutions aren't free after all), but I have zero faith it will.
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>>2331649
Opiates/fentanyl have also been pushed on the american working class leading to a large addicted population.
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>>2329522
truth
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>>2330100
>bro the South is amazing man
>bro the Midwest is like totally lit man
t. Only criteria for a "good" destination is conservative politics and White population
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>>2331683
>Opiates/fentanyl have also been pushed on the american working class leading to a large addicted population.
by who, and how come we havent hung them?
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>>2329522
If you ask suburbanites and unwelcomed tourists, then yes. Being a native, I enjoy it very much. And, if the perception that PDX is dotted with homeless camps keeps people away, good.
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>>2331729
Look up the Sackler family. And, when you build the gallows, send us all an invite.
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>>2331749
Basically legal heroin dealers and they got very rich off of the working class they’re basically the same as el Chapo but they won’t ever see a day in jail
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>>2331649

What if I smoke just a little bit of meth though
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>>2331972
You'll just get a little bit high. Does that sound like something winners do, you pussy?
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Yes



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