I'm looking to try out teaching for a bit as a way to travel the world. I'm hoping for this to be more of an adventure than a lifelong career. My options have pretty much narrowed down to Poland and Slovakia since my lack of degree is a serious limiting factor in where I can get a work visa.Of these, which would you go with? I don't know anything about Slovakia but it seems like it's just Bratislava and some farm towns while Poland is obviously more developed.Poland has a program for a 3 week training period to get higher certification, which is appealing, but also seems like it would be harder to find a job after.Anyway, more about me. I'm an early 20's American (so no easy mode EU work visas) no degree, and have enough to live for a year just about anywhere without work.
>>2171881Slovak hereEvery single day I wish to be anything else than a slovak. This country is full of braindead idiots. Every single time when I travel it feels I am in a country with normal people, and when I return it is like a country full of braindead dumb fuck idiots who would kill their own mom if a facebook hoax would say so.
>>2171902Enlightening, Thank you. Is it just a general idiocy, or is it contained to certain parts of life like traffic?
>>2171903General idiocy. Think about /pol/. You got it? Now think about a /pol/ country. Here, you have slovakia.
>>2171906I'm hearing a lot of "go to Poland instead".Would you recommend visiting Slovakia as a tourist?
>>2171906You realize what website you are on right?
>>2171881TEFL in Europe is possible but its very difficult and you get paid in peanuts, its not the best option for exploring Europe. The reason TEFL works in Asia because of how education obsessed the population is. Look at working holiday visas. >no degreePretty much makes it impossible, except maybe like Cambodia or something
>>2171881Poland all the way bro. Even Bratislava is very disappointing. The only nice thing about Slovakia is the mountains.As a Polanon who used to teach English for 4 years in Warsaw I found it super frustrating that natives with no education would just have more hours and better teaching rates than me even though they don't have to prepare shit. My favourite example was a black guy from Chicago who could only say 'yo whaddup' who was a native in a school in the centre of Warsaw. So there is hope for you
>>2171881Slovak here. Almost everyone here is either a onions boy or some dumb alcoholic facebook hoax believer. Slovaks will do anything except being normal
>>2172468Have you done tefl teaching before? The jobs being suggested by my CELTA course in europe seem to pay quite well but maybe this is how they reel people in. Guess I have wasted my money.
>>2172468I'm not looking to make some serious money doing this, I'd be totally fine just breaking even with a decent standard of living. I'm moreso looking for this to be an experience.If I find out I enjoy it and it turns in to a career, then that's cool too.
>>2171906Based. Going to Slovakia
>>2172957You'll be paid like 500 EURO a month mate
I would say go Poland. I'm obsessed with it since I tied my favorite amateur porn couples to their people and realized every time I'm insanely attracted to a woman they're Polish, or sometimes German or Hungarian but typically Polish. Some sneer at such coom-driven feelings but I am a proud coomer. I live to coom and coom to live and it has made me a lot of money and given me a great body. I wouldn't put all this work behind something as abstract as "success" or tertiary as a house.
>>2171881I would say avoid Poland in 2022. The ruling party introduced some new reforms that are going to either kill the country for good or damage it pretty hard. Right now it's utter shit.>>2171902I feel the same about Poland plus we have a lot of toxic and racist people (racism here isn't just about the skin, it's more like xenophobia). Of course, there are some good, kind people but that's minority.What about Czech Republic? Many of my friends run away to Prague and I think they like it there.
>>2173268Imagine having a non-demoralized ethnicnally homogenous state and bitching about it. kys schlomo, don't you have some ngos to work on
>>2173267What are some good amateur polish porn couples or something? Fellow coomer here
If you're black, living in eastern europe will not be a good time
>TEFL in the central EUthis is a meme right? I'm from Slovenia and substitute teachers (what you'd basically be without a degree) work for years without pay as praksa before graduating to a miserable minimum wage. I'm not an expert but Slovakia and Poland probably aren't much different.
>>2172468Yeah, education obsessed asian population and asian languages that are so different from languages with european origins that asian speakers have a hard time figuring out pronunciation unless they can interact with a native speaker. English has germanic and latin roots and most european language speakers can figure out English with a little guidance. Tldr nobody outside of asia wants to pay you a couple thousand a month to teach kindergartners how to pronounce "cheeseburger."
>>2173575>I would say avoid Poland in 2022. The ruling party introduced some new reforms that are going to either kill the country for good or damage it pretty hard. Right now it's utter shit.That's hardly going to affect someone who's coming here for a few years for an 'adventure'. It's not like he'll be pinching pennies to buy a 40 sqm flat in a shit Warsaw suburb
>>2173986This. There are hordes of anglistyka graduates with actual degrees already fighting over the few positions that are open. We had an American "native speaker" taking over like 1-2 hours of English for 6 months in our sophomore year of high school, but she was there though an internship program organised by her university, not some degree-less neet.
>>2171881Nigga, just check any of the TEFL sites like Dave's cafe. The Poland subforums are basically nothing but people bitching how tefling in Poland died in the 90s/early 00s and prices have almost reached western EU levels while wages are stubbornly stuck at a third of what you'd get elsewhere. Do not do this. You're looking at an 800 EUR/month wage of which 500 will go towards rent.
>>2171881>early 20's American>no degree>wanto to TEFLSo in other words, you have absolutely no valuable skills to offer except teaching your native language? You sound as valuable as all the African immigrants who come to Europe.Stay where you are.
>>2173986>>2173995Europe has plenty of people fluent enough to teach classes entirely in English, most Asian countries legitimately don't, even the English teachers would struggle to teach a full conversational class in entirely English.
>>2174982That's totally fine with me. I don't need to get rich doing this, just make enough to not be losing my ass.
>>2175016Must've missed the part about this not being for the rest of my life, or as a career. Just an experience.If you wanna be mad I actually leave my room, that's your call.
Asia or south America is a much better choice for TEFL life. I did China for 5 years and had a blast and now have a Slovak waifu. We would never dream of trying to live in her home country, it’s got shit wages while the cost of living is going up. It’s good for summer visits but the alcohol is the only value you’ll find.
>>2176494This is not totally fine ya dum dum. You're essentially reversing what everyone is doing and immigrating to Poland to work for Polish wages and live the Polish standard of living. You aren't just not getting rich, you're making sure you'll have to penny pinch hardcore to make ends meet. Just to put it into perspective, a Big Mac in Poland costs almost exactly as much as a Big Mac in the US. Except the person who's made it has literally earned four times less than his peer in America.Just stay where you are, flip some burgers and go abroad with your dollars on a proper vacation. Cheapskate vacation even so you can stretch your savings far, but this is a much better call than actually wasting your time working in Eastern Europe. Do not TEFL outside of Asia.
Anyone have any tips for traveling to Poland right now? I'm hoping of making a trip in the late spring, but I'm not sure if you need any vaxx paperwork or a visa waiver still.
>>2176555I had the option to teach at a private school is southern China a couple years ago, but things seemed a little dicey with it. When where you there? I'd like to know if it's worth going for a year or so.
>>2176674Oh, My bad. I thought you were just talking shit for the sake of it. If the cost of living is basically the same, then yeah I might have to reconsider the whole thing. I have savings, but not exactly eager to spend it all.