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What is the best US state to live in?
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>>2165984
Hawaii, pick any island you want. I rather live with Asians than with feral blacks and punk-ass whites. Cowabunga... however having said that, Utah would be my second choice. Atleast they dress sort of presentable there.
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>>2166025
I'll also add Wyoming as a runner up, people mind their own business there and there is nice scenery. But idk how I could cope with the fluctuation of the weather and the sparse population in the long run.
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>>2165984
how does WV maintain its whiteness among such greenery?
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>>2166025
Don't all the natives despise expats?
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>>2166083
West Virginia proves /pol/s dream of a white ethnostate would be a fucking failure

>95 percent white
>people are uneducated white trash losers addicted to drugs and are poor
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>>2166085
if you act insufferable like expats in costa rica, yeah. But if you're mindful, people will leave ya alone.
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>>2165984
mississippi
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>>2166110
What's wrong with expats in Costa rica?
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>>2165984
Maine
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>>2166110
Stay mad. I live in Costa Rica now and its great.
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>>2166118
driving up the prices especially along the coast line like this nob >>2166217 here.
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[spoiler]florida[/spoiler]
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Arizona. Cheap land, low taxes, friendly people, and it's turning blue which means you won't be stuck with your stereotypical red state hicks for much longer. Second choice would be Idaho.
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>>2166286
Imagine being this retarded
The whole reason why Arizona is like that is because of those red state hicks you're disparaging, you dumb fucking retard.
You libshits should stay in your west coast containment zones and the tri-state area, instead of going to better states and shitting them up by voting for the same politicians that turned your shithole states into what they currently are.
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>>2166096
Have you any fucking idea about how California was 60 years ago? STFU.
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>>2166288
Wrong. Notice how I didn't recommend Texas or Florida - two diehard red states. Texas has a power grid that's 3 decades behind the rest of the country because "muh privatization" that literally killed people last year during a simple ice storm, and Florida is the Covid laughing stock of the nation.

I recommended two red states that are turning blue now that educated liberals are starting to take over. Funny how once red states turn blue, quality of life goes up, huh?
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Utah.

>mormons keep degeneracy at bay
>have managed to maintain an 80% non-hispanic white majority in a region where the reconquista of aztlan is basically done
>still plenty of non-mormons (like 55% of the state isn't mormon IIRC) if you want to interact with normal people
>best landscapes in all of america
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>>2165984
New Hampshire

>>2166290
Who cares about 60 years ago lmao
Might as well point out how white the country was in 1723
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>>2166292
>Covid laughing stock of the nation

>Giving a shit about the coof in 2022
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>>2166096
It remains 95% white because its a failure. All non-southern states were 99% white and became less white due to their prosperous natures attracting blacks/mexicans/whoever. It doesn't help that WV's main industry is getting (deservedly) handicapped
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>>2166286
Arizona has good laws, low taxes, and a decent quality of life because it was run by mildly competent conservatives in the state congress for decades, and still is for now. Once it goes full blue there isn't a single enumerated right that won't be molested or blatantly ignored until the discontent and quality of life disparity grows to such an extent it will also experience population flight and begin the cycle again to spread its disease elsewhere with the same result or until those people realize the flaw in that self destructive ideology and decide not to bring it with them next time.
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>>2166292
Texas and Fl have hoardes of foreigners libs like you poured into those states.
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>>2166340
Hes from China.
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>>2166368
This. California was built by Conservatives, invaded by liberals.
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>>2166292
COPE
Once Rich Liberals arrive
Crime goes up
Lgbt goes up
Traffic goes up
Gas prices go up
Quality of Life goes down.


You are parasites locusts. You make me sick.
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>>2166292
Arizona and Idaho are redder than Texas and Florida, you dumb fuck.
The storm in Texas killed some people because their houses are not insulated the same way as in the northern states, after all, it was a freak storm. It would be like Montana getting hit by a hurricane, it's just something that's not supposed to happen.
California is number 1 in the nation for covid cases and deaths, and Florida is number 3 and they only 2000 more covid deaths than New York despite having a much older population than both California and New York, so I'm not sure where you're going with this, libtard.
If you libshits are so educated then why don't you stay in your libshit paradises of California, New York or New Jersey?
Oh that's right, because they're crime ridden shitholes with the highest taxes in the nation where nobody wants to live in.
You people are literal vermin and ruin every place you move to.
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>>2166096
Most New England states are like 95% white and have a much higher quality of life than any other states in the nation.
West Virginia is the exception, not the rule, so keep coping
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Alaska.
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>>2166292
Goodness it always astonishes me at how stupid liberals are. He just mentioned a climate change Media Whore hoax as if it is legit meanwhile people are starving while gas prices climb due to liberals fleeing the HELL they made and coming to RUIN what we build. They did it to California and they will do it to Texas.
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>>2166402
how come new england is more healthier than WV?
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>>2165984
OP, the people living in the best states aren't going to tell anybody if they know what's good for them.
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>>2166496
WV's main industry is coal. Not only is coal getting rekt by the federal government but it led to massive over prescribing of opioids for its workers. Its similar to Alberta, Canada in those regards but WV doesn't have the native problem so it's actually pretty safe.
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>>2166395
Were still here bro up norf
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>>2166569
The fed has little to do with it. It's cheap natural gas.
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>>2166496
better education since the beginning of the United States.
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I'm looking to move to a more based state. Any local bros out there, please shill me on:

>West Virginia
>Missouri
>Kentucky
>Tennessee
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>>2166292
Arizonas housing prices have gone crazy because of libtards fleeing here after you ruined California. You’re so wrong and so ignorant
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>>2165984
Lol at pic.

What do you want out of life? Conservative areas might be mostly white, but they're also mostly pricks. If you're not a veteran and you're out in public then guess who gets harassed. You better marry young and go to church or you're going straight to jail. Forget about having a social life, starting a business, having individual rights, etc.

Yeah, it's going to be different moving to a red state but living in a blue city. Texas is like that, with Dallas, Austin, San Antonio, Houston, Laredo, and El Paso all being blue cities (and the first 4 holding like 75% of the actual population). Outside of those areas, you might "get disappeared" for any number of reasons.
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New Hampshire

-No car insurance required
-No seatbelt law
-No sales or income tax
-Lax guns laws
93% white
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>>2166025
>>2166085
They are kinda racist towards whites but not like black Hebrew Israelite level racist. Hawaiians and Polynesians are generally pretty agreeable people too.
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>>2166311
>nothing good to eat
>no fun regional culture
>bland people
>no beer
>arid and pathetic climate
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>>2166832
>deciding where to live based on a retractable fucking strip of cloth
Do Ameriniggers really?
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>>2166826
you are a retard who has obviously never left a big city in america and the only interpretation you have of rural americans is like children of the corn please kys or get educated
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>>2166879
Wrong, dickpaste. I grew up in a rural area then moved to a major city because of how awful it was. I've traveled to literally every landlocked state in the country and parts of Mexico in both an RV and as a truck driver.

If you don't think there's a higher social order that's much easier to see in small towns because there's just so few people then I don't know what to tell you. If you're the local preacher or deputah then yeah it'll be gravy, but god help you if you want anything decent out of life and you're not, or you talk to the wrong jizzhole that they're fucking on the side and she tells them.
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>>2166958
They're awful backwards people, though. I might as well have grown up in the Afghani desert. Imagine welding being the highest skilled job in the town.

I don't drink Budweisers. I drink barrel-aged stouts and smoke cigars instead of chewin' tobackie. Luckily I spent some time in a city when I was younger and then became friends with cool people online and didn't get sucked into the redneck fuckery that is most of rural America. Escape while you can.
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>>2166862
yes, it really is.. kek.
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>>2166814
in missouri you can get a barbque and a foot massage in your local african-american joint.
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>>2166841
>>arid and pathetic climate
deserts are based
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q65zNbaQzMw
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>>2165984
Depends on what you want.
>popular cities
Cali, NY, FL, MA, WA, Vegas, DC, Philly
>/out/
Maine, Montana, Utah, Colorado, Dakotas, NH
>Beach
FL, Cali, TX, PR, Hawaii
>Desert climates
Nevada, parts of Texas, AZ, NM
>i want to be an alcoholic
TN, KY, Vegas, TX
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>>2166814
>>2167005
isn't missouri very white outside of st louis and KC?
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>>2167035
Yes
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>>2167006
kek
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>>2165984
new york- the big apple
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>>2167059
liar
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>>2165984
WV is very nice and very cheap. Problem is and always has been nobody cares about the people there, and all the resources are owned by outside interests. Its like a central american country but local. Noone has any wealth or the ability to generate it. But because of its demographics and sparse population its gorgeous and extremely safe. Only crime is drugs because poor.
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>ctrl+f my state
>only 1 result
thank god
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>>2167008
Vegas suburbs is as comfy as it gets.
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>>2166862
>>2167003
>eurocucks can't fathom not wanting to live in a nanny state
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AZ in the winter.

Probably get the fuck out of America in summer
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>>2167374
SF & Seattle are nice in the summer, been there, homeless only in centralized areas, unlike portland.
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>>2165984
tennessee
>no personal income tax
>mountains
>mild winter
>music culture
>inexpensive housing
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>>2167238
>wasteland of big box chainstores, 7-elevens and fast food connected by concrete rivers of death
>comfy
Any "city" that isn't walkable isn't made for humans. Enjoy your heart disease, suburbanite scum.
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>>2165984
Louisiana lol
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>>2166527
yep. i only check these threads to make sure my state isn't getting mentioned yet.
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Right now it's Colorado
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Vermont is based, elected Bernie and doesn't afraid of anything
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>>2167612
Fuck off
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>>2165984

Normy answer but SoCal for me personally. Specifically San Diego. Perfect mix of metropolitan things to do and situated in a place with nice weather and nice beaches. Just pricy and would be far to do any winter sports in the mountains.

SLC would be my choice if I wanted to fuck off and have my money go 2x farther. I hear good things about Austin too.
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>>2167650
I mean if you don't want to deal with fatties, Colorado is the place to be
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>>2167672
this map was made by a Californian faggot
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>>2166096
>Land that Virginia literally didn't want
>Decendents of mine slaves

Sure anon.
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1. Florida is you stay away from niggers.

2. Hawaii.

3. Utah.

4. Texas

5. Virginia.
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five best
>Maine
>Vermont
>West Virginia
>North Dakota
>Iowa
five worst
>Hawaii
>California
>New Mexico
>Texas
>Nevada
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>>2165984
massachusetts
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>>2166085
Do natives even live on the island anymore? i thought theyve been priced out by expats?
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>>2168014
I still need my mansion housekept so yes
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>>2166025
Fuck that, I vacation there and it's terrible for the most part

Laziest fucking people I've ever met - even mcdonalds is like 30 minutes to get chicken nuggets

Dumb fucks, lowest IQ state

Every fat fucking dude trying to fight

Expensive beer, milk, gas, and rent

Fuck that state
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>>2166311
>No beach for thousands of miles

Nah no thanks
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>>2167527
Sounds like you're projecting anon. Don't go to the gym much do you?
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>>2165984
>invisible wall at NY and MA border keeping out blacks
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Meteorologically? Oregon or norcal.
If you want "good schools"? Idaho
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>>2166029
Wyoming weather is miserable and you're 2-7 hours from a major airport. I like to visit WY but could never live there
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>>2167880
no it wasn't lol, I'm from Scotland
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>>2168118
>Expensive beer, milk, gas, and rent
go sober bitch tits... walk and eat home grown fruit so you will be strong.
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>>2167951
>>West Virginia
kek, have fun with your meth zombies, which might as well be declared as niggers.
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>>2168211
even the poorest county in West Virginia has a relatively low crime rate lol
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>>2165984
NH, if using objective metrics
For me, though, it's CA due to growing up there
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Depends on what kind of life you want to live. If you're single, active, don't mind renting, you have a decent job where you can work anywhere, a smart person would move to the beach in Orange County California. Newport Beach is pretty fucking glorious place to live if you can manage it. Some of the best beaches in the continental us, amazing hiking, amazing food, close to the best national parks, close to vegas, Tahoe, Santa Barbara, LA and San Diego, epic theme parks, the best music scene in the world, flawless women, perfect weather, amazing skiing and snowboarding, etc etc etc. I moved out to Orange County from Maryland 10 years ago. Ive traveled a lot. I can easily say there is no place I would ever prefer to live after being spoiled in Newport Beach.
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>>2165984
Property tax by state
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>>2169249
Oops, I meant by county, not state.

Another one. This is the relative value of $100 per municipality.
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>>2166096
>people are uneducated white trash losers addicted to drugs and are poor
but also some of the lowest crime rates in the country, and the highest quality of air indexes. I think if you are an outsider looking to escape the shitty infested places, it doesnt really matter if your neighbors are college educated or work in a coal mine as long as they are good people.
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>>2166915
>>2166963
judging by how you talk, I dont think how you were treated had anything to do with the people that live there and entirely because you are an insufferable faggot. i can already see you getting bullied in school because you were one of those 15 year old kids that thought he was above everyone else and smarter than every adult in the building.
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>>2168217
the poorest WV county has a lower crime rate than the richest black county. id rather live by inbreds popping pills than in a fucking ghetto
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>>2169267
>>2169274
enjoy the smell and rebel flags, boys.
btw there's blacks in WV too.
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>>2169249
>>2169250
Nice maps got anymore?
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>>2166096
>Destroy West Virginias coal mines and all the industries that support it
>"haha look at how they failed!"
I'll take West Virginia with extremely low violent crime and no blacks than wherever the fuck you live.

West Virginia breaks narrative that poverty causes crime. They are one of the poorest states but least criminal, hmmm wonder why?
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>>2169281
what smell? Ive been all over the states. every single city smells like shit compared to rural areas.
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>>2169301
White girl here who only likes black men.

Fuck off poltard
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>>2168206
you're aight then
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>>2168271
That sounds amazing, but you aren't going to be able to save or invest anything significant while living there.
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>>2169298
I found them online. Those two are from the Tax Foundation website. From Wikipedia:

The Tax Foundation is a Washington, D.C.-based think tank, founded in 1937 by a group of prominent businessmen in order to "monitor the tax and spending policies of government agencies".[1][2][3] The Tax Foundation collects data and publishes research studies on U.S. tax policies at both the federal and state levels. Its stated mission is to "improve lives through tax policy research and education that leads to greater economic growth and opportunity."[3] The Tax Foundation is generally critical of tax increases and high taxation, and is thereby considered fiscally conservative.[4][5][6]
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>>2169310
It's the US it all smells like shit
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>>2167935
Hawaii is fucking trash, dumbass.
Expensive as shit to live in, no jobs and second highest taxes in the nation after California.
How is any of that good?
>>2169324
Go fantasize about nigger dicks somewhere else, Chang. Humans are talking here
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>>2169662
Hawaii and California have nothing on the Canadian provinces when it comes to taxation. You pay even 13% sales tax in Ontario. Our "cheapest" for sales province is Alberta with 5% but your wallet will be ass raped in other ways.
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>>2166269
This is correct. Just moved to NC and i miss Florida so damn much.
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>>2169713
Alberta is the only province I'd call cheap. Even its cities aren't too expensive, probably because no one wants to live there.
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>>2167612
>>2167854
it was cool the last few months but they’re back to full mask alert. plenty of fatties there too.

unless you can buy property in a secluded spot in the mountains i wouldn’t bother
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>>2167612
>>2167854
delusional. Utah, Wyoming, Montana, Idaho all beat Colorado. I'd even say some prairie states do, too. Even the desert states lol
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>>2166292
my family lived in arizona since BEFORE it was apart of the united states. since it was MEXICO. this is wrong. this so fucking retarded it’s not laughable, it’s concerning and you should not have access to the internet. learn another language and see how retarded and sheltered american culture keeps you so you can see REAL quality of life.
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>>2169324
you will never be a women but you certainly argue like one
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>>2165984
Vermont so i can have free healthcare and guns
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>>2166832
Dont you have to pay some huge bond if you dont have insurance?
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>>2169977
Polis is one of the saner dem govs, their be gone in a month
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>>2166346
What industry?
the one that has been dying since the 30's?
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>>2166569
Coal jobs down 24% under trump despite getting socialism subsidies.
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>>2166832
>New Hampshire
Anything near the coast or border with MA is infested with Massholes.
Property tax is very high.
Bitterly cold winters yet not much snow.
White Mountains are nice but it rains almost every fucking weekend in the summer.
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>>2171596
yeah that one
>>2171599
the writing's on the wall. green energy = good which means coal = most bad. they should start building nuclear plants in the west virginia/kentucky/tenessee area
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>>2169980
pretty sure colorado literally has the least amount of fats per capita in the country
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>>2171709
because they're all on drugs, I must have missed the "if you don't want to deal with fatties" comment and read it wrong, lol oops.
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>>2171335
>vehicle inspections
>insane levels of vacc mandate
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I CANT FIND A SINGLE STATE TO LIVE IN
They all seem BAD.
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>>2171733
Yes.
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>>2166288
>The whole reason why Arizona is like that is because of those red state hicks you're disparaging
This is the most retarded opinion conservatives have ever held

there are forces at play that shape our world outside of politics. In fact politics don't really matter all that much. But redneck hicks will ALWAYS be assholes, that is a universal constant. I assume you aren't a retarded hick, why defend them?
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>>2169980
They're all better for outdooring for sure, but if you want a well-paying job to fund your outdooring, it's hard to beat Colorado.
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>>2171733
Every state has its pros and cons. You won't find a perfect state. Also consider where you live in the state has a huge impact. I can't stand Philadelphia, but plenty of Pennsylvania is beautiful.
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Ive lived in Omaha since I graduated 8 years ago and I find it very cozy.
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>>2171730
>>vehicle inspections
like japan
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>>2165984
Maine. Not a shitskin in sight, well educated, well developed.
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>ctrl+F
>no wisconsin

I'm living here for a while, just moved here. God the winter is dreadful. I already feel like drinking gallons of spotted cows and hitting kwik trips all month.
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>>2171789
You’re embarrassing your position
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>>2166398
>Oh that's right, because they're crime ridden shitholes with the highest taxes in the nation where nobody wants to live in.
that's for the plebs, the rich lives in their nicer gated neighborhoods... look at san francisco, all the rich people live in hilly steep neighborhoods to keep the filth at bay.
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>>2168271
I just got into surfing and am living nomadic right now. How is the covid shit there? Can I get away with sleeping in my car and still bang hot girls? Was also thinking San Diego.
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>>2173174
you can sleep on the fucking driveway of celine dion from what I can tell.

never been though so idk, but you can get away with sleeping in your car in loads of places, so I can't see how southern california would be strict with this. the covid stuff probably just makes life miserable there, but the weather and surfing are still perfect (until they close the beaches during lockdowns)
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>>2166214
meh,
pros:
Nothing nation-wide seems to affect us.
Very safe.
Great spring, summer, fall.
Cons:
expensive.
Winter.
We are 30 years behind everything.
small population, especially young people outside portland.

I might retire here but I want to live somewhere else for a few years. Maybe a desert.
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>>2169250
>best places to live are kankakee IL and beckly WV
oh i am laffin
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>>2165984
i have to live in California for the next 5 years for work, but i can live in any city i want. where should i go? im currently in san diego and its beautiful but im tired of it, i was thinking of lake tahoe/truckee.
is there any city in california worth living in
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>>2173542
Shelter Cove
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>>2173542
El Dorado county its kinda a suburb of Sacramento.
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cincinnati is comfy as fuck but it filters out plebs for being flyover
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>>2173568
wasn't it destroyed after the 2020 chimp out?
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>>2173542
>>2173557
also, escondido near san diego.. if town is called "hideaway" in spanish, you'll know you'll be cozy.
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>>2166288
this is prime example why women should not be leaders
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>>2165984
How is New England? I'm considering moving to a more rural part. does it have /out/
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>>2173653
Maine and New Hampshire does. Vermont and upstate NY a bit. Massachusetts a bit less. Connecticut no.
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>>2166814
>Tennessee
Weird, mostly non-confrontational rednecks and niggers still sweating like they stayed out too long in a sundown town, of which they might still have a few of.

Generally speaking if you get into the country, you're looking at a population that's 90% white and pretty peaceful. Stay away from the cities unless you want that to drop to more like 50% and the slack taken up by the most feral fuckups this part of the country has to offer. If you go to Chattanooga you're asking to get mugged. Same for Nashville and definitely Memphis. I've lived here forever though so I have to say it's mostly pretty peaceful.
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>>2173660
higher number good or...?
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Is it true that it's hard to get an out of state job in the US before actually moving to the state? Seems strange seeing as how it's the same country.
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>>2166025
There's a city on one of the northern islands where 40% of the population lives below the poverty line. I knew someone who lived out there a while back and she said that it was mostly white guys who drive around blasting Linkin Park in their shitty Camaros.
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>>2166496
That's where a lot of the Ivy League schools are and the region has a diversified economy that includes biotechnology, manufacturing, etc.
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>>2171337
No, you don't have to pay anything. Insurance is a scam and the state gov't knows it. You also don't need a CCW permit if you decide to buy a gun. You don't even need a gun license if you bought it through a private sale.
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>>2171624
I don't know about the not much snow part; I was born here and it's not uncommon to get over 14" in a single blizzard. Probably more if you live near the Canadian border.
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>>2167008
The beaches in TX suck; are you kidding me? You can tell the water in the gulf is still contaminated with oil from Houston
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>>2168158
It's the high IQ field; it keeps all the Texas-born Mexicans out, too.
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>>2168206
Why the fuck are you looking around Childress, TX? There ain't shit out there.
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>>2174114
>it was mostly white guys who drive around blasting Linkin Park in their shitty Camaros.
based
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>>2173834
Yes, it's true. The states compete with one another in various industries.
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>>2174244
Wouldn't they want to attract talent from other states then?
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Chile
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>>2174393
They do, but only people who're highly proficient in their field.
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I'm looking for a place to move too once I finish my IT degree in a couple months. Any places where I could find IT work but without the niggers?
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>>2166832
>no sales tax
>get an ass rape tax if you go out to eat
probably other hidden taxes too
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How are north carolina and south carolina? I work remote and my wife is a nurse so we can go just about anywhere. Beaches sound nice but California sounds fucking god awful.
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>>2167372
>nooo muh seatbelts are oppression seething eurocuck haha goteem
i'm not the one who rates states based on their usage of a fucking piece of cloth. normal people consider gun laws, taxes, availability of jobs, distances between relevant things, but definitely not a piece of cloth in a car lmao
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>>2166963
Maybe people didn't like you because you're a douche
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>>2166963
You sound like the biggest pretentious onions faggot of all time. Do you even hear yourself? jesus
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>>2166963
this has to be bait, no one lacks this much self awareness kek
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>>2166963
Two weeks late here but you are a retarded nigger faggot and I hope you get mugged and beaten by niggers in your precious city
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>>2175696
>definitely not a piece of cloth
>gun laws

Why though? Do you really feel the need to shoot people? I mean you can have guns anywhere. You can 3D print them anywhere, even illegal countries. You could just go to another state and buy one then come back. I've bought private sale guns several times and nobody came knocking on my door.
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>>2175271
Good, stop going out to eat and avoid the (((seed oils)))
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>>2165984
I want a state thats not a desert, has some mountains, cheap land, and nice neighbors.
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>>2176346
sandpoint idaho, or kalispell montana
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>>2165984
Maryland if you are non-white.

Utah if you are white.
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What would be the best state if I want:
Somewhere with a more moderate climate, although colder is preferable to hotter.
Job opportunities in more middle sized towns or small (<200K) cities. Somewhere without the baggage of larger cities but not the middle of nowhere
Low taxes and good gun rights
Decent internet or better
Not crazy about/don't care too much about COVID

Doesn't need to match everything exactly, just the best one for these criteria.
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>>2173660
interested to hear the thinking behind this map. why does arizona get a 6.5 but utah an 8.5? I thought they had similar natural features.
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>>2166580
The fed has everything to do with it. They hate anything that comes from the ground and are killing non-“green” initiatives everyday. We won’t even drill our own oil anymore. We just keep importing it from the sand people. We didn’t buy oil for trumps last 3 months because we produced enough here. Now look at us. You genuinely can not say that big government big spending disingenuous monsters are doing wonderful things for America. They’re forcing racial division and actively promoting authoritarian stances especially on voting. You will live to see America no longer practice democracy.
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>>2165984
>What is the best US state to live in?
High AF
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>>2173542
depends on what you want. I like the central coast, so Big Sur, Carmel & Monterey, and Santa Cruz
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>>2177258
Out of the 4 corners UT is generally the best of all worlds, same pro gun laws as AZ, deserts canyons snow and mountains like AZ, more snow than even CO, 80% of the population lives in one or two cities like AZ, and there is a huge difference in climates and elevation like AZ more so than CO or NM. AZ, UT, and ID (also WY and MT) form the based states strip from Mexico to Canada imo.

t. Arizonan
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>>2167238
Different anon here. I've been living here since I was a teenager. Moved here in 09 when I started Freshman year. Before that I got to experience the city and the countryside to its fullest having grown up in the city and spending a fair bit of time in the country.

Vegas suburbs is what happens when you take the LA suburban infrastructure, and everything depressingly wrong with it and dial it up to a 9, but with more desert and nothing compared to here. Sure there's plenty to do in this city but there is zero soul. Just like Dubai, it's just the most soulless shit with make-up on it to make things look nice. As >>2167527 puts it that's all there fucking is. Parking lots upon parking lots to put your steel deathbox ass-warmer away as you waddle down to the nearest "trendy" food place that got their fucking shit from SysCo just like every other restaurant in that strip mall.

At least there's shit to do but there's no soul and the lake is drying. It's so fucking bad the dock I used to fish off of can't be fished off of any more. It just stands there derelict. If you wanna come here, be my guest but I'd recommend you should get out as soon as you can. The only places I can think of worse than here is all the Rust Belt flyover shitholes they call "cities"
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Maine
Vermont
New Hampshire
Utah
Idaho

Honorable mention Florida.
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Arizona
Utah
Idaho
West Coast (minus the Bay Area) was literally Paradise on earth until about 2005
>t. Born and raised in Orange County, now live in Scottsdale

Eastoids and flyovers can fuck off btw, no one cares about your boring ugly states
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>>2173542
>>2173557
As long as you hate California you can come to El Dorado county. The sheriff is good; he barricaded highway 50 into Placerville when rioters in Sacramento were talking about moving their activities east.
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>>2165984
Myrtle Beach, SC
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>>2177491
>Maine
>Vermont
>New Hampshire
>Utah
>Idaho
just live in alaska at this point, it will fulfil your /out/ needs than these 5 poser states
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>>2177495
what up nigga former Cali native recent scottsdale transplant and I'm fuckin loving it
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>>2175690
Idk about South but nc is a boring shithole. You have the mountain area full of poverty and Billy Graham evangelical cults. The middle of nc is a suburban frying pan with zero culture or anything interesting to do or see. The coast is painfully generic and there better beaches further south.

>>2177249
You're asking for contradicting things but closest might be NH Maine or some boring Midwest flyover states.

>>2177809
Too much nature.
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>>2166814
I'm from St Louis MO, I actually really like it here. Besides a few summers in Kentucky as a child I've been here my whole life. Property is ridiculously cheap, the only city with more free shit to do is Wash DC and we make some of the best beer in the world here just have to avoid the big literal globohomo company. Can't remember much about Kentucky besides learning how to shoot and going to a fuck ton of horse races with my grandparents.
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>>2166311
Mormon girls are huge sluts bro.





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