I recently went to Birmingham, UK for the first time in my life. I've often read things on /trv/ and /int/ about the place but I didn't really ever have any personal experience with it. One of the biggest things that I've noticed however was that London, somewhere I'm VERY familiar with is absolutely nothing like how it's depicted online by poltards and the like so I tend to take the things I read on here with a pinch of salt- I went in with an open mind. Anyway, got there and went to the "German" Christmas market. First thing I hear is blaring music (I use the term loosely) chanting "ALLAAAHHH" loud as fuck. You could literally hear it throughout the entire Christmas market. I look over to where the sound is and see a huge tent that says "ALLAH IS THE TRUTH" handing out Qurans and other Islamic scripture. At a fucking Christmas market. You can't make this shit it up, I wish I was. We then went into a department store and around 80% of the people we saw in there were Pakistani or black, a lot of women head to toe in Burqas. We walk out of the store and the first thing we see on the ground in front of us is a drug addict face on the floor with all of this belongings scattered around him. Everyone just stepped over him like it was completely normal. We get around the corner to one street with a load of bars and restaurants and see at least two separate women throwing up from drinking too much and man slumped over, the best part was that it hadn't even hit 6pm yet. Streets are absolutely filthy and full of Romanian gypsies with missing teeth selling roses, fidget spinners and handkerchiefs. Honestly, the filthiest, shittest dump I've ever been in the Western World and to think that this was once upon a time the birthplace of the industrial revolution is quite sad. Honestly if you want an example of a civilisation in decline, visit Birmingham. I'll never defend this shithole of a country again.
Never been.Bradford is, up to now, the biggest shithole I know.
>>2142176Kek fuckin dipshit. Don’t act like london is much better outside the centre.
>>2142176same happened to me in sweden. Never been on pol but had heard memes from years ago. Ended up in the baltic area so went to stockholm. Fucking grim. The suburbs are 100% arab and somali. I saw a woman pull up her black cloak thing and take a huge steaming shit right near a walkway.
>>2142176English major cities outside of London are a result of negative selection.
>>2142476Which suburb did you go to and why?
>>2142554Bristol's alright. I've heard some places up norf are getting better too, like Liverpool and Newcastle, but I've never been.
>>2142176Yeah not gonna lie, studed in central london and was dating this girl who studied at birm uni, went up there for a weekend and apart from the campus (which is relatively drab but has some nice looking buildings), it was kind of a total shithole.
>>2142558Yeah, I'm from Newcastle, and it's still great
>>2142558bristol is literally an entire city of trannies and smelly art hoe lesbians with those ugly bullring nose rings and punchable faces. do not ever fight one because the amber leaf under their fingernails acts as a deadly poison when they scratch you.
>>2142555I walked around with nothing to do, it's not very big so I thought I would look for SOMETHING interesting. I ended up north of the city a little bit. Then got on a train back to the central area because there was nothing to see but endless columns of blocky white buildings. Forest was nice though.
>>2142604You expect us to believe you walked from the center to an arab/somali area and your only impression is that it was "grim"? You know that there is plenty to do for a day or two in the center?
>>2142558Any of these places are 10482x better than Birmingham lol
>>2142184>Lengthiest section of the video is dedicated to Warwick Castle, which is nowhere near Birmingham
>>2142558Liverpool and Newcastle are the two whitest major cities in England lol
>>2142688while i understand for the urban decay complaints, warwick castle is nowhere near. but if a boomer tourist visited birmingham, warwick castle is quite near
>>2142690there are plenty of horrible all white places in uk
>>2142690Liverpool is fucking awful.
>>2142695where is good?
>>2142695The city is more interesting than the UK average but the people are the British equivalent of Guidos.
>>2142241I hate Birmingham more than Bradford.As cliched as it might be, you can get a nice curry in Bradford an I don't even really like curry. Birmingham has zero redeeming qualities. It has all the negatives of London with none of the positives.>>2142554Almost every other town is leagues better than London or has something going for it which you would know if you left the south east.
>>2142587I went there and didn't really see too much of that. Few minorities too, but I didn't really explore much.
>>2142176Im british and i went there once and it was the worst shittiest place everi actually went during lockdown and yet everything was open because they clearly have lost the rule of law there
>>2142698York, Lincoln, Durham, Nottingham, Bath, Cambridge. Ok thats it.>>2142793Yes thats why, the people are awful and need to be contained, isolated, then starved out of existence.>>2143194You're actually right. Bradford is like "Yeah we're an asian city" whereas Birmingham is just recent immigrants and drugs
>>2142698Tbh cities with high student populations and a relatively decent uni are the best.I spent a lot of time in Portsmouth and ofc its got its bad parts but overall I think it was a nice city.Now I live in Peterborough and I have to say it's an absolute shithole of a city.
>>2143507>Now I live in Peterborough and I have to say it's an absolute shithole of a city.whew, sorry for you, but i was close to taking a short term job there
Coventry is even worse than Birmingham. Absolutely fucking grim.
>>2143507Guildford, Leeds, Sheffield, Bristol, York, Brighton ( most on south coast ) are some of the cities that are still ok. Just check an ethnic map before visiting a bong city otherwise u will be swarmed by shitskins and deadbeats
>>2142275It's this.The UK is an absolutely miserable place. They've been able to fool the world into thinking they're high class because the have The Queen™ and the British Museum and Hogwarts but that's like 1% of it. Except for the central part of London and a smattering of small towns, the place is a postindustrial hellscape of socialist housing, disinterested immigrants, closed industrial plants, foreigners linked to organized crime, and the kind of people that, in the U.S. you'd find doing meth in trailer parks, but instead they're just drunk all the time and British. Yet somehow it's expensive. Add depressing food and weather and the UK royally sucks. There's a reason they all fuck of to literally anywhere else out of the country whenever they can.
>>2143646As much as I love London, you're right. born and raised in Kensington (nice part) but I'm planning on getting the fuck out as soon as I can
>>2142609theres almost nothing to do in gamla stan or sodermalm lol. its a giant daycare surveillance state.
>>2143544almost took a job there as an international but bailed and decided not to last minute whew...
>>2143646Well i live here and i think the UK is on borrowed time. The people are rich, I dont want to hear about there's poverty blah blah, that's just druggies and losers, anyone with any mental coherence can get a decent salary on even a low paid job and live in a warm house with plenty of food and excess money for leisure and pleasure.The problem is the country itself is just slowly crumbling and declining, economically, socially, literally with the infrastructure, and the rising costs are just beginning to pressure what i mentioned above. The immigrant problem is out of control and destroying the culturally identity we once had, and the new leftist politics seems hell bent on furthering that.Borrowed time, once the economy goes and people's standards of living massively drop it will be all over.Get out while you can or enjoy these twilight days
>>2143646Our small towns and villages are lovely, our large towns and cities are shitholes.
Two regions Kent and Essex, seem strange to me they are both "nice" places and "bad" placesEssex i thought were supposed to be rich people who commute to london, but apparently its full of crime? (like what I imagined Surrey was like but they don't have much crime in most of the areas)Kent i thought was supposed to be quaint old historical England but its apparently full of crime also? and not just extension of london's borders, but cities like dover for sure. i don't know about the others like cantebury.
What are the cheapest ways to visit England? I want to bum around for 2 weeks there and watch either a PL or Championship game before moving to Ukraine.Cheapest sleeping quarters is my main concern
>>2144125megabusjust sleep on overnight bus journeys
>>2144142Is this a meme or solid advice because I'm down for anything
>>2144143megabus is cheap busesbut i think going on long distance bus journey every night would be unbearable
>>2142176ayyy lmao I lost my virginity in one of the buildings in OP's pic>>2143762Essex is mostly shit because it's all full of the grandchildren of cockneys who were forced out of London during the slum clearances after ww2, so they're the survivors of the old white underclass. The bits of Essex that aren't all about being able to go into London to pick up some coke are fine.Kent is the same. Even Surrey has its grim spots, but broadly I'd say that if you want the classic home counties wealthy laid-back vibe then Sussex, Surrey, Bucks, Herts etc are the way to go.>>2144125>>2144142>>2144145megabus is a great way to see the lowest of the low in the UK, I don't recommend it because you won't sleep much. Hostels in the UK are good and normally quite cheap. If you travel in the summer you can often get cheap accomodation in empty student halls in university cities.
>>2143708same in Canada. Any shred of anglo/franco colonial culture is being irradicated and replaced with a vacuous hole of gay pride flags, medications and delinquent behavior. I remember as a kid when my hometown got its first prostitute and it was front page on our small local paper. Now theres people shooting drugs in the park where I used to feed ducks and swans and everyone is chinese or indian.
>>2144325What the fuck did I just read?
>>2144325your fault for siding with the mutts and jews. Get rekt.
>>2142176These threads always turn into a >Muh cities are shitBy people who hate cities. Quite annoying really.Some people like cities and that's all good. For what it's work Brum is indeed a shit hole, all the negatives of a big city and none of the positives. I think this is what happens when you get a city that's mostly immigrants who want to be cheap and don't go to London, it's basically full of the poor migrants. That being said there's still alot of nice cities in the UK this burger clearly had his first gf fucked by a Brit, it's the only reason someone can be so butthurt about not being part of the master race>>2143646What sort of a child includes Hogwarts as a positive for Britain? KekThat being said this anon is dangerously close to the truth >>2143708The overall decay of the UK is frightening. I guess it comes with having been a civil society so long but everything is crumbling from infrastructure to family values, i dread to think what this country will be like in 50 years
>>2143708I don't get why the British tolerate this. In the US the leftist push the narrative that everyone immigrated here except for the natives so we have no right to speak ill of other immigrants and that we don't have a cultural history. But the English are the indigenous people in England. They could simply say that they want to exercise their rights as a native people and keep everyone out. Go full on Japan and accept very few permanent immigrants and only if they're completely culturally assimilated.
>>2142275The state of London webm rel
>>2142176England is DONE
>>2142275It unironically is though. A lot of London boroughs feel incredibly white, clean and green. Even if there are a lot of ethnic boroughs, there’s a lot of gentrification going on. Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if London is whiter now than it was 15 years ago. Ethnics generally stay in their poverty zones and have little interest in central bars, restaurants and museums.
>>2142176UK is a lowkey shithole. It isn't just the immigrants either. It was a motherfucking shithole before the Islamics and Blacks showed up. It was a feudalistic medieval shithole and then an industrialized polluted Dickensian shithole. UK is interesting in terms of history but it has a very grimy atmosphere, plus shitty weather (cold and rainy year round), sour hateful people, and old-as-fuck decaying obsolete infrastructure.
>>2144802The leftists just scream about the EBIL BRITISH EMWPIRE and colonialism which means we must accept immigrants.It's the same shit, you complain, you're racist and get fired or even arrested. We have no power against this because the majority of the young people are brainwashed to this POV too.
>>2144816anika a qt
>>2144867I've noticed this.I went to a Brewdog bar in central london a few months ago, its craft beers and shit, typical white people place, and full of whiteys including me. But this large group of British Indians came in, and i thought that's unique, but interesting for them to be different and try this place. They took a big table and viewed the menus and shit. Then the waiter came over, early 30s white guy, checkered shirt hipster kind of dude but friendly enough as all British staff are. Then somehow one of the indian women started getting really stressed out about her drink choice, saying she didn't understand the menu (its obscure beers with descriptions, not difficult) and before you know it she is loudly screaming that the waiter is a racist, the whole bar is racist and its a racist instituition. All of them got up and left, the waiter and customers are all confused..Those immigrants even though theyre like 3rd generation, they're just cunts, they don't assimilate, they stay in their bubbles, and one time they try to mix they instantly play the race card at the first discomfort.
>>2144904I’ll be honest in saying that Indians I think are a bad example, especially the third generation ones. If there is ANYONE in this country who are somewhat integrated and assimilated after a few generations and will engage with pub/bar/other facets of “white culture” it’s them. It’s incredibly fucking rare to see a group of black guys, Chinese or any other ethnic group at a pub but you’ll see British Indians try to engage with it and succeed. What you’re saying is generally right though. Go into the most ethnic boroughs and areas in all of London, hit the local pubs, museums, bars and restaurants and it will still be pretty much all white people.
Everyone here is talking about England. What about cities in Scotland, Wales, and N. Ireland?
>>2144937They are the most but you still very rarely see them doing white people things. Might depend on if theyre muslim or not.>>2144959Depression
Birmingham has fallen. So has the entire UK unfortunately . They recently stopped big Ben because the Muslims were getting upset it interrupted the call to prayer.
>>2144904>and before you know it she is loudly screaming that the waiter is a racist, the whole bar is racist and its a racist instituitionsometimes people get triggered by stupid shit or have personality disorders etc, but i usually assume someone is trying to grift this large chain company or get a viral video to capitalize on
>>2144888I've described the place before as "dour." There is this pervasive attitude of "things suck here but we must get used to it" everywhere. One that you don't find nearly as much in continental europe.>>2144959They're poorer and almost entirely white.
I am spending two months in the UK and am skipping this city for exactly the aforementioned. But how does London differ?Is it possible to go to the Cadbury factory and avoid this though?
>>2145028>But how does London differ?even though everyone is intermixed like a few blocks in a direction has a different pocket of predominant socioeconomic ethnic group, the places people spend their time kind of self segregates
>>2144959their large cities are not as diverse as the largest english citiesbut most have a significant portion of ghetto white people like violent alcoholics or heroin junkies in the bad parts of town.people who like visiting cities have a good time, but the rural parts are where these areas are most impressive imoEdinburgh is the most classic tourist destination - beautiful historic areas. Glasgow had a reputation of the last century of being rough, but visiting on holiday the city center is great. A weekend night around central station is like a zoo of drunk people its qutie funny.I don't know Cardiff, Swansea, Belfast Belfast was starting to become a cheap weekend away for peopleCardiff my impression its better than Swansea, tho has its share drab areas
>>2145028The issues with Birmingham are diluted in London. There’s so much money, so many tourists, people on business, so on and so fourth, it masks the shittiness that exists. Whilst London does absolutely feel more international, it also manages to feel more white and British at the same time. Listen, London is a must. As I said, it has its bad parts but it’s absolutely nothing like that disgrace of a shithole Birmingham.
>>2145005She was just a silly bitch getting easily stressed out but then playing the race card>>2145028Go to the York Chocolate factory. York is the city of chocolate. Sometimes the air smells like brownies when the wind blows the right way from the chocolate factories
Non Brit hereI just feel like Brits feel ashamed for every large British city that isn’t London. Birmingham isn’t the only one. Liverpool, Manchester, Leeds, Leicester, they’re all fvcking underwhelming for Western European large cities.
>>2145108its the small cities which are goodbut dont come fuck off
>>2145099As someone coming from Scandinavia I don’t like London, nor York or Cambridge or Oxford. They all feel like shit.
>>2144125Definitely go for a championship game lad, you won't find a proper atmosphere in a premier League game and it will be expensive anyway. Maybe even try to go to a league one game with a small ground they can be really comfy
>>2145028You have to go to London lad, honestly. It's pretty much the only city in England that wasnt made from industry and all of England's museums are centred there.There is so much to see that if you plan it right it's unlikely that you would dislike it as a tourist. Honestly it's when you live there that it becomes apparent how much of a shithole it is but but if you stick to the centre and visit nice random places like Richmond and Greenwich then you will enjoy it
>>2145187>You have to go to London lad, honestly. It's pretty much the only city in England that wasnt made from industry and all of England's museums are centred thereLondon is a depressing rat nest. If that's England's finest, then I am never going back
>>2144888Checked and correct. That’s why so much good music has come out of this tiny island over the years.
>>2142176Honestly change this with any city in England and it applies. All of them are shit, even the small ones to an extent.Granted Dublin will be on that level soon enough.
>>2143708i live in rural Norfolk, England and i have a decent life mate, you can still get a house out in the Styx here for under £100k big cities are shite globally
>>2144816tower hamlets is a borough of london that has the highest % of south Asians per km in whole of the uk.this is like taking a picture of a hispanic area in los angeles and claiming all the usa is mexican
>>2145137You're American, fatty.Stop pretending to be 'Nordic' lmao
>>2145828No its shit, i dont want to live in a dead zone. I'm currently in a village and its like i'm waiting for death. Nothing happens, time is stood still, all there is to do is walk the dog. No wonder people turn to alcohol and drugs
>>2145852get a job and a car then mateits a small country, even the smallest hamlets are usually under 45mins drive away from something interesting
>>2145828>out in the StyxIIIIIIIIIIIII'M SAAILIIIIIIIIIIINGG AWAAAAAY
>>2143639I'm quite interested in Guildford, never been but heard it's expensive and idealic for families who commute to London but want good schools.
>>2145868>proves me right:^)
>>2145930rent seemed pretty averagebut i think buying is expensive
>>2145858I have a car but if you go out you need to drink which requires a taxi which costs about £30 each wayI used to live in the city but i moved back to help my mum with her mental health and now im going fucking insane. The countryside sucks, she would be better if she lived in a city too but she cant see it.
>>2144999>They recently stopped big Ben because the Muslims were getting upset it interrupted the call to prayerkekdumb faggot, its currently undergoing renovations and repair worksas nig infested as london is, this is just bullshit, do better next time mate
>>2142587Nah fuck off
>>2145108Manchester is whelming at the very least
>>2144999This is an underrated bait
The UK in general has been in decline for decades now. I suspect the calls for Scottish independence and Northern Ireland’s reunification with the south will grow louder to cut ties with England which is quickly becoming an Islamic state with an uneducated white underclass to serve them. Hard to believe these people ruled the world 200 years ago.
>>2146774t. Ignorant American who knows nothing about this country. Scotland is probably the most pro immigrant country in Europe. The whole reason for them leaving the UK is so that they can rejoin the EU and welcome more migrants. They literally have some of the most draconian and insane hate speech laws in Britain and Europe by a long stretch. All whilst they clap along and think they’re owning the fascists or some shit. Not to mention, highest drug death rates in Europe. Literally 4x higher than England.
>>2142176>Honestly, the filthiest, shittest dump I've ever been in the Western World>to think that this was once upon a time the birthplace of the industrial revolutionHmm...wonder if there is a connection there?
>>2147045There are plenty of cities that industrialised afterwards of a similar economic status like Manchester which is 15 trillion times nicer than Birmingham.
>>2147045>invite the third world en masse>become third world city>bu- but it was da factories and muh industrialization
>>2144904So fucking vote right wing. How hard is it?
Birmingham and Berlin are the cities I most hated in europe. And I've been to some shitty places in southern and eastern europe. Nut at least Berlin has some nice museums.
>>2144904Brew dog is pretty dope, I went to the original and they even opened one in Ohio where I am from.Scotland is sort of ok compared to England, less amount of obvious muslim problems except parts of Glasgow
>>2147501>vote right wingmass immigration has occurred over both left and right 20th century capitalist western governments
>>2147640>Brew dog is pretty dope,how many "sink the bismark!"s did you shotgun?
>>2147501>le politics solves le everything!shut the fuck up retard, as long as corporations exist and shitskins are poor and desperate, you will have a shitskin problem
>>2142176>I want /pol/ to leave.
>>2147501Sheep for brains
>>2142581Oh man, Fenham is just THE dream!
>>2144891>hate crime>defines "hate incident"it’s over lads
When people talk about visiting London they mean they same thing as visiting New Orleans: white people areas. No one goes to Croydon or Holly Grove.
>>2142793>equivalent of guidosAlways thought that was Essex but Liverpool can probably count too lmao, being from here I noticed the fashion went off from Chav into something different. I just wish there was more niche indie clubs here, I'm fucking tired of hearing Arctic Monkeys and The Wombats on every "indie" night that happens once in a blue moon.
>>2148102Plebians and normies aren't allowed to hate something ever since antiquity. Why are you whining now?
I lived in Oxford for a while and it quite nice. Visited Birmingham for a few days during Xmas and had zero problems. Didn't notice a flood of hijabs or prayer calls, did hear Christian church bells though. The Xmas market is pretty good and China town was neat. Dinned at that little commercial river area and saw one black guy but a dozen eastern euro ppl for some reason. Also visited the uni which was decent, lot of green spaces.If this is a city ppl complain about, y'all are actually privileged. I assumed it would look like Baltimore but I guess pol was wrong again.
I interviewed for a job in Birmingham once. Would have been crazy good pay for the hours I'd work, so I was keen. Booked a weekend to check it out as my interview was on the Monday. I guess it's not a shithole, but it's so... bland? It was bombed to shit, shoddily rebuilt in the 50s, they ran a few motorways through the centre for good measure. Anything that might have made it attractive is long gone now.
>>2148396>it's so... bland?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ih7pQmyRa1olooks pretty loose to me
Went to Birmingham for the first time 3 years ago. The germans should have finished the job. BUT there is the absolute best dirtiest DNB/Jungle club called PST there, which was crazy good
>>2144815To be fair serves them right for being gentrifying notting hill yuppies
>>2145830>all the usa is mexicanSouthern USA is mostly mexicans, tho. It gets you more mileage to speak Spanish than English in that area.
>>2148332>pol was wrong againShocked I say, shocked.All the Brits bitching about their towns in this thread are larping. They have no crime to speak of, even the worst UK city is like fucking Narnia compared to the US
>>2148639>even the worst UK city is like fucking Narnia compared to the USthat doesn't make crime in a uk city tolerable
>>2148645>crime in a uk city tolerableIt does dude. Western Europe is the safest possible environment you can be in. If you can't tolerate that, the problem is you being a faggot.
>>2148651you're clearly wrongwestern europe is very safenot every neighborhood is a nice place to be
>>2148651Nah, the problem is that you're an apefrican worshipper who thinks having your city lose its identity little by little is no big deal because the US is doing worse, like that's supposed to make anyone feel better about losing an entire city to a culture incompatible with European culture. Go suck off towelheads some more, dumbass
>>2148639Yeah even the Muslim pedo ring in Oxford was on the DL happening to orphan kids basically. Pol and news made it seem like Muslims were abducting normal kids off the streets on the middle of the day. But this happens all the time in the US where the orphan system allows any pedo couple to take in kids without any oversight.
>>2142176Birm is 80% pajeet and muzzlenigger. The only whites left are either sucking pajeet dick for drugs or being raped by them. It’s pretty much a microcosm of the future of the western world.
>>2148861You have literally no fucking idea of what you're talking about and it's actually funny considering you're trying to sound like an authority on the subject lol.Not even a poltard either, I literally live somewhere this happened and I'm familiar with the sort of environments that led to it. What it boiled down to was opportunism combined with Muslims feeling like it's fine to take advantage and rape young non-muslims because it's justified by their religion. This was/is exclusively pakistani/bangladeshi muslims raping and molesting exclusively non-muslim young girls and 99% of it didn't happen in orphanages. It's completely different to pedo couples in the US.
western europe is the worst place in the world
>>2148863but is london any better? the situation is somewhat salvaged by more money and flair, but it isn't a majority white city either
>>2148990London is far far better and does feel far whiter. The reality is, London is sort of a hub for everything that goes on in the UK, of course it's the capital and it's to be expected. Whenever I'm in London (around every other week) I come across people from all over the country there whether that's for shopping, business etc. I have lots of friends that have moved to London, all of their flatmates and practically everyone they know is white. The other thing to keep in mind though is this, Birmingham is a much smaller place. You've got some really ethnic areas, also some pretty white areas in London. Some areas you literally won't notice any ethnics at all.I think what it boils down to most importantly though is the fact that London has to maintain a shiny front presence for the international scene. Tourists don't want to go to a Christmas market in London with an Islamic tent blasting out loud their sandnigger shit but Birmingham doesn't get tourists and locals just have to put up with it.
>>2148995london feels more white because it did have a large european population and was less english then cities like birmingham but now with brexit things may be different
>>2148914>didn't happen in orphanages.>muh nomenclatureIt was white trash kids in state care that nobody gives a shit about. Skanks off the estate who'd be smoking brown in a year anywayThat's why the authorities did nothing. The Muslim angle is just a smoke screen for how the ruling class don't give a shit about the lumpenproletariat
>>2149026Yeah 11 year olds are skanks that would be "smoking brown in a year anyway".
>>2148914False. Not all were Muslims (some were sikh and hindu) but nearly all were pakistani
>>2149038So what you're saying is 99.9% of them were muslim and there were a handful of others?Have you got any proof of this?
>>2149035Normal in Rotherham.
>>2148914Didn't happen in orphanage, happened to orphan kids and neglected kids. Read the police report or wiki or any news article on Google before making stuff up because you think you're an authority for larping extra hard.>Rapists take advantage of children>Not at all like those American rapist taking advantage of kidsYou're hilariously stupid.
>>2149105t. Amerimutt thinks he can read
>>2145108i'm ashamed of london too
>>2148914>not even a poltardYep. Definitely a poltard