For those of you who have travelled this year, what are things like out there? Is travel worth it right now?
>>2103253>For those of you who have travelled this year, what are things like out there? Is travel worth it right now?I've made a lot of short trips to various parts of Europe, one long trip to the USA, and a short trip to Turkey in the last eighteen months. "What things are like" varies a lot. I've experienced places with curfews, most locations I've visited have had mask requirements, some stuff hasn't been open. And there have been a lot of testing requirements, either imposed by local authorities or by airlines, so if you're scared of getting a swab up your nose you probably want to skip travel for the rest of this year at least. On the positive side, some places have been practically empty--I got to experience a near-abandoned Parc Guell in Barcelona, which is usually shoulder-to-shoulder overrun with tourists from all lands. I also didn't notice much in the way of attempted pickpockets or scams because the tourist numbers were down so much.
No. It's absolute shit. Can't meet people. Can't have genuine experiences. If you like going to hotels and eating at restaurants and spending money, you can still do that. But all the spontaneous travel adventure stuff is over.
>>2103587I don't care about the swabs unless they're expecting me to do it before I enter every building. Before planes or whatever is fine.>>2103598See, this is what I was worried about. I just want to go stay in a hostel, meet some other travels, go to bars and dance with locals, meet some randoms in a cafe and go to some random place I've never heard of in a city I didn't expect much from and have a blast.Sounds like there isn't much point if this isn't feasible.
>>2103605>don't care about the swabs unless they're expecting me to do it before I enter every building. Before planes or whatever is fine.Oh, and an increasing number of indoor venues, at least in Europe and I think in parts of the US, are requiring vax certs for entry. So if you’re vaccinated you will likely have more options than if you are not.
>>2103253Southeast Spain in early August.Most non British euros dont wear masks outside. Had to get the 72 hour PCR test before departure (not arrival though) but I was allowed there unvaccinated. Wanted to do Italy because Romabu but their COVID policies were bad.
>>2103633Not concerned about this as long as theres consistency in requirements - don't want to carry a million different documents that all say the same thing.>>2103643>>2103649Thanks, this is interesting insight to me - it sometimes feels like I don't get any real sense of what other countries are doing.
>>2103649>COVID policies were badOn the contrary, requiring vaccinations is a great policy. Bad policy would be letting in plague spreaders uncontrolled.
>>2104093I'm not that guy (I'm OP)To be clear when I talk about policies I'm talking about policies that mean it's not worth coming for a trip (public places, bars/restaurants, etc are closed, its difficult to get around, everyone is staying home - that kind of thing).Is that the case in Italy?
>>2103633I'm living in China right now, but I'm fucking off for good in about 10 months. I've been vaccinated, but with sinovac, which isn't recognized by many countries, which I guess means I'm basically unvaccinated in the eyes of most countries. As somebody who hasn't travelled abroad at all since this bullshit started, it feels like you need to go around getting multiple different jabs to cut down on the bullshit if you plan to travel around a lot. Is this true? If so, what's it like getting vaccinated as a tourist?
>>2103253It's worth it if you're self motivated and not focused on something as simple as cooming or what not. I've been traveling the lower 48's, just simply easier with everything, been having a blast but often made sure I had some itinerary or gameplan to why I should actually go.Mexico was okay I guess, going to Korea next.
>>2106316Brah why would you want to even leave China right now? Its the only country where shit is semi-normal.
>>2106344>Its the only country where shit is semi-normal.Non coastal states of the US don't give a fuck about shit and haven't for a good while. Sweden, Norway, Turkey, Maldives, Mexico, etc haven't given a fuckGuam mostly gave 0 fucksBrazil didn't careSK locked down in the main cities but any US citizen could go to itFair bit of african countries US people could travel to never gave a fuck.Aside from the initial shut down orders, lot's of places opened back up after the initial mandate and just more or less stayed that way. Honestly, the lockdown was the perfect time to clear out your nature travel shit without feeling like it went to waste.
>>2103802>Not concerned about this as long as theres consistency in requirements - don't want to carry a million different documents that all say the same thing.My experience is mostly, as noted, in Europe, but I have the Swiss government issued Covid-Zertifikat on my phone, which has worked everywhere I have been. And although I have heard horror stories of two people with monolingual test results (only in German or French, not also in English as is more standard) being being refused boarding at Zürich airport for a couple of flights (one to Russia, one to somewhere else east of here), my test results (from Switzerland, France, Spain, Italy, and Portugal) have all been in local languages plus English, and accepted without issue at all the airports where I have presented them.I think the most documentation anyone might need would be both a negative PCR and whatever the official vax cert is. No idea about passengers from places like the States that don’t have an official certification document, though (I have the little yellow WHO card tucked into my passport, too, but I don’t think anyone has ever looked at it.)
>>2103587Speaking of deserted places, I visited Venice last summer and would highly recommend anyone to do it before the floodgates open to chink tourists again. Venice was amazing to see without the huge crowds and the water being actually clean-ish.
>>2106406Traveling in Europe is simple if you're vaccinated. Every place now accepts the EU standard certificate that you can keep on your phone. The only exception was when I went to Bongland, they require you to get tested regardless, before and after the flight.
>>2106344Just been here too long and I absolutely hate almost everything about China at this point.
>>2103253I've spent the last 12 months travellingPortugal (Madeira) The NetherlandsNorth MacedoniaThailandEgyptKenyaI travel real slow. It's just about fitness, nature and nightlife for me.It's a bit of a pain in the ass because every country has it's own idiosyncratic covid hurdles to jump through - that also sort of slows me down. But I'm getting used to it.
>>2103598>No. It's absolute shit. Can't meet people. Can't have genuine experiencesBullshit. I was in Koh Samui for 4 months this year. It was fucking awesome, made loads of friends.Maybe just nobody likes you?
>>2106448>every country has it's own idiosyncratic covid hurdles to jump through - that also sort of slows me down.Any examples? Do you mean like quarantining?
>>2106454>Any examples? Do you mean like quarantining?Thailand wants proof of funds, covid insurance, onward ticket, accommodation for 10 days at a quarantine hotel and a PCR test.Kenya wants you to use the Africa PCR approval app, one night's accommodation, onward ticket and a PCR test.Some of these things were in place pre-covid but others obviously not.I try to avoid quarantine countries but I am considering Sri Lanka next. After quarantine I'll stay a few months to make it worth it.
>>2103253Went to Turkey, specifically İzmir. German Turks ruined the entire experience though.
>>2106431>The only exception was when I went to Bongland, they require you to get tested regardless, before and after the flight.There are a handful of other countries that still expect negative tests from everyone, vax cert or not, but no place I have been at this point (a lot of my travel was before vax certs were issued, so I had to test anyway; to be frank, I liked flying when everyone had a negative test more than I like it with vaccine certifications, as I don’t want to wind up in a little tube in the sky with a breakthrough infection, less likely though it is).
>>2106462Sounds like a good idea, Sri Lanka looks fun. I take it you're a digital nomad?
>>2106845Sort of. I'm semi-reteried.
>>2107286Very cool anon, enjoy
>>2103253It depends on the country.First of all getting there is a pain in the ass. And you have to mind restrictions. Then, if vaccinated they may not consider you to be vaccinated if you don't have a local vaccination card. Now if you checked you can be considered vaccinated or there are little to no restrictions, go for it.For me it's cool if there are no curfews, main attractions are open (not necessarily fully open) and there are no vaccine passports. With just that, it's a once in a lifetime experience, and it may worth it.Tl;Dr Check the restrictions and then go if you want
Depends where you're going. Since the pandemic's beginning, I've been to: >India>Thailand (before mass lockdown and "sandbox" shit) >Mexico (1 month)>Turkey (6+ months)>Pakistan (~6 months)>Colombia (1 month)>Spain (1 week)>Turkey (1.5 months (again))>RomaniaI'm probably going to go to El Salvador or Belize in another few weeks, since they're the last couple countries I've yet to visit in continental North America.TBQH everywhere I've been--except Mexico--was lots of fun. Everywhere had a mask mandate, but I didn't mind; Turkey has since stopped enforcing theirs. Pakistan was almost 100% restriction-free until early April, but they put some measures into place in maybe mid-April, which all expired by the time I left at the end of May.Mexico wasn't as great, because I was mostly in CDMX and there were TONS of restrictions there. It might have gotten better, I went in June 2020.
>>2106845Not the same Anon but I loved visiting Sri Lanka. I visited the gem market near Galle and got absolutely blasted on arak, plus saw a bunch of badass historical sites. Highly recommended to the traveler who doesn't demand five-star accommodations everywhere they go
>>2107774Plan to go next month. Thanks for the reinforcement. Some of my favourite accommodation has been huts and tree houses. No electricity.
>>2107800I can't guarantee you'll get tree houses but the accommodations are plentiful if you're in or around any of the five major cities. Otherwise you might need some help getting a room somewhere... you speak Sinhalese? If not, much of the younger generation speaks a little English
I have been to Naples, Corsica and Dubai over the summer.Fully vaccinated and french so I could travel easily to Corsica and Italy with the EU pass app. Had to have a negative PCR test result to enter and leave Dubai.All had basically the same vibe: mask indoors, no one gives a shit outdoor, no social distancing. Restaurants and bars crammed, felt good to be part of social life again.
Had to jump through a ton of hoops to get to Vietnam, but I'd say it's worth it.
>>2103253>For those of you who have travelled this year, what are things like out there? Is travel worth it right now?I travelled some during covid. Got burned out by curfews, closures, testing, mask faggotry, aggressive police.I coomed a lot but missed out on other fun stuff because everything closes early or is just plain shut. I really hate seeing masks on all these faces, everybody is totally dehumanized and miserable looking. Just awful.
>>2104093I know this is bait, but it reminded me. Since the vaccines don't inhibit spread and the lessened symptoms increase stealth spread, might we see vaccination requirements for foreigners dropped once the hysteria fades? Countries (at least socialized ones) would still want their own citizens vaccinated to not be a drain on their already chugging healthcare systems, but a tourist who's more susceptible to the dangers of the virus but is less susceptible to spreading it is better for the host country than the opposite.
>>2108071>vaccines don't inhibit spreadCitation needed
>>2108071 >>2108489People seem to have a really hard time understanding that biology isn't "black or white." It isn't a useful way of thinking to say the vaccine is or isn't working. Instead science deals with probabilities. With vaccines you get: severe disease- very high probability of reduction, symptomatic infection- good probability of reduction, asymptomatic infection- moderate probability of reduction. So while they don't eliminate the possibility of infection by 100% or even 98% they reduce it a lot compared to an unvaccinated population. Of course, if everyone got vaccinated this wouldn't be an issue because two vaccinated people giving each other asymptomatic infections isn't a public health crisis.
>>2106558Turks hate German Turks more than they hate the Greeks desu.
>>2103253Meh. Masks indoors, rules changing every two weeks, travel restrictions going up and down and often everything is closed after 10pm or 12pm or whatever time the government decided on. Sometimes things are open, sometimes you have to wear the mask, sometimes you don't. Some rules you read online don't apply, some others you didn't know about do.You can't plan a month long stay because the government might decide to go completely bonkers two weeks into your stay.It's ridiculous and tiring you out quickly. I'm at a point where I just wanna stay home where I at least know the rules.
I went to NY and everything was normal, sure, you had to wear a mask inside the stores or the subway, but other than that it was pretty good, no fucking chinks or europeans out there, just massive amount of mexicans and other latin america niggers.
>>2108489He read it on /pol/ so it must be true. You're not allowed to question the cult of antivaxxers.
>>2108071Everything you said is wrong, you need to ask for a refund from whatever college you got your virology PhD in.>>2108491tl;dr I got caught lying and will try to distract him by going on an offtopic rant hoping he will forget I don't know jack shit
>>2103253Nearly the entire USA including southern california (although the north is more cucked) is not doing anything for covid. Bars don't make you wear masks, everybody goes out, anybody who says otherwise is larping
I find it hilarious that restaurant workers will bitch at you to wear a mask when you walk in the restaurant, and then you take it off fucking 5 seconds later when you sit down and everything's fine, literally what the fuck is this delusional clown world logic