https://www.travelinglifestyle.net/vietnam-not-reopening-borders-yet-due-to-spike-in-covid-cases/Shines some light too on Philippines' where they're basically saying vaccine or jail. Vietnam is a very cheap country, great for expats.
>>2054822It's not light, it's like the phuket sandbox. What is up with these dumb threads? Saigon just went into full lockdown, Bangkok is getting locked down too. It looks like they are beta testing private beaches like some stupid cruise line weeked trip bullshit. If that's for you then cool, but I'll just go to my local beach if this is it.
>>2054824Cambodia already said they're overhauling their extremely lenient visa shst and adopting a pseudo-Thai system. Opening islands up brings money in bit not in the right places which is usual for authoritarian decision making.Watch all of SEA try to become this exclusive bullshit destination like Thailand pretends to be. It makes no sense to me as someone that's travelled to those countries how they can think so much of themselves because like one or two destinations within their borders are worthy of a NatGeo cover. Third world shitholes to boot.Cheap won't mean much when they require aassive deposit or elite visa just to get in.
>>2054829Bhutan probably beats all of them if you are into mountains, and very few people visit it because of the price. This is just the death of their old tourism and some new smaller version with consolidated ownership by less people.
>>2054822just phu quoc, and flights are gonna be super limited and everyone still has to go through 10 to 21-day quarantine. i mean yeah technically almost everything here is open, but there are much much better destinations, at least for tourism, besides phu quoc.
>>2054824Private beaches are increasingly the thing now. I remember 10+ years ago a private beach was a novelty. Now any major tourist destination, it's 90% private or city beaches for miles.Beautiful wild (trash strewn, but it's Asia) coastline just disappeared into 50 identical resorts.Simple answer: the old "authentic" tourist spots aren't authentic or free anymore, so the next tier of cities are the new "authentic" tourist spots. Nha Trang? Nonono; Tuy Hoa? Yes. Bonus: Chinese and Russians won't go there, also so much more chill, comfy.
>>2055453>so the next tier of cities are the new "authentic" tourist spotsI believe they are going to put a stop to that soon as well, all beaches will be private or something. They are hyping up 10 percent of what they used to offer for 300 percent of the original cost. I give a few more months before people realize they are on involuntary house arrest and will be lucky to get a 5 day vacation a year they have to pay out the ass for. I'm also expecting some stupid social media campaign where people talk about how the silver lining is they have discovered the beauty of "back yard vacationing" or something. Whatever, glad I traveled as much as I could when I could.
If this pans out bros, expect TVT threads in the future
>>2054829>Third world shitholes to boot.So are Mexico, Dominican, Cuba, and Jamaica, but they have a lot of resorts that people drive straight to from the airport. SEA seesthis. When I was on Phuc Quoc a few years back that kind of development is booming. They're catering now to Russians, Chinese, etc. They don't give a fuck about backpackers. A country like Vietnam wants people to come to their "luxury" resorts spend money and not see anything in their country.
>>2055460you talking about more ladyboy action or what? I don't think they have as much of that in VN, TTT poster can't get off without the lbd
>>2055459>All beaches privateThere's so many beaches that are totally undeveloped and mostly just used by locals for clam digging or whatever, but they're so far off the beaten muhSheraton path that nobody cares to buy them up. Look at Hoi An: everything north is private, everything south with a few exceptions isn't (I'm sure it's trashy, so it goes).There's just so much beach to go around. Their coastline is almost 100% clear sand beaches between Vinh and Vung Tau, they aren't running out anytime soon.
>>2054822So it means no chance to mingle with the locals for the foreseeable decade?
>>2055519they can still shut the beaches down, i've seen it happen before. you would probably have some random black market beach hiking and partying going on but i foresee a lot of natural beaches being off limits to everybody.
>>2054824Who would pay to use a foreign beach? It's just water and sand likr home. Completely pointless.
>>2056783They don't pay to use it, they buy the beach and block the view. You end up with mansions lining it and private property signs. As for the other beaches I imagine they will become national parks with a few becoming public beaches where you get all kinds of people gathering.
Any other Saigonchads up? I'm settling in for a few months of working online in my comfy apartment. uwu
>>2055536Times up sexpat
>>2056811what job? I'm trying to move there after my program is done
>>2056811Same here. I have a nice little supermarket and everything I need, but the stuff I see posted on facebook of people lining up for hours to get food at the big markets is pretty fucked
September ? North Korea has more chance to be opened than Vietnam by then, given the current evolution of things and the generalized paranoia around here.I expect delays, postponement and cancellation of every reopening plans until December, they are just copium for the locals.
>>2057768The lockdown here is so stupid. No one gives a damn how many people crowd inside the big supermarkets, while people technically aren't even allowed to go for a walk outside. I still play tennis in the early morning but if the police see me, I'd have to pay a $100 fine.
>>2054829>It makes no sense to me as someone that's travelled to those countries how they can think so much of themselvesIt's funny isn't it? These filthy gook rats think there is going to be ultra premium tourism happening in their absolute shitholes because a couple of resorts and casinos bring in chinks by the planeload.Tourism is dead in SEA. Thank God too, it needed a hard reset. Call it a deworming that never happened until now.
>>2058321>These filthy gook rats think there is going to be ultra premium tourism happening in their absolute shitholes You sound worried. You can afford it can’t you Anon
>>2058386I've been to Phu Quoc before, it's no Krabi, or Bali and certainly no Bora Bora.Zipperheads are retarded if they think anyone is going to spend 2 weeks in quarantine there with barely anything to do while paying a premium.
>>2055542>Philippines isn't opening this year to tourists.One thing that made me happy about this pandemic. I don't see dumb tourists coming here anymore and asking me how to pick up local girls despite girls not wanting them. Despite the huge loss of tourists, everyone is doing well and helping each other. Those who don't have money to eat can go to community pantries where there's a surplus of everything from crops to processed cans. But there's not enough of beggars here that even crops go bad and the community is losing more money digging soil to bury expired crops than actually giving them away to poor people.
>>2058440the people that are happy about the pandemic for trivial personal reasons have got something wrong with them
>>2058440>asking me how to pick up local girls despite girls not wanting them.Tourists don’t walk up to local men and ask them how to fuck their woman stop lying. I actively avoid local men because I know they hate me and nothing gold can come of it; only a potential misunderstanding and violent confrontation because the ONLY REASON I’m in their country is to fuck their mothers, sisters, and daughters
>>2056811>>2057209I'm in D1 and it is not comfy. I've just been drinking beer and eating food from family mart/circle k. In the morning between 6 and 7 am people are kinda normal and there's a 'secret' pop up street market but it's a stressful environment. I'm really happy I got to spend a week in phu quoc 3 months ago when things were normal.
>>2058508>>2057209All I've got is rice and water. My building got quarantined and I didn't get paid. But life could be worse.
>>2058440Lmao you flip retards live in pure fantasy land. No white man has ever came up to you and asked you hot to pick up local women, ever.I'm glad you think sustenance farming locally due to absolute devastation of economy and loss of all jobs is "doing well".
My flip ex moved back to her province because at least she can fish for food there.Oops everyone else did the same thing now there are no more fish. Back to starving.
>>2059654How long were you quarantined? My apartment might be quarantined tonight
What will be the situation for a Westerner moving to Vietnam in 2021? Will locals see me as a dangerous potential bringer of disease?
>>2054829Makes sense to me. So many foreigners want to travel there and it's already too crowded with tourists. Why not charge tourists a minimum of 10$ fee to the government for every day they spend there? Sort of like Bhutan does but on a smaller scale. It's so cheap already in these countries that tourists won't really care.
>>2059885Quite the opposite these days. 6,000 cases a day now and things seem to be a lot worse in general.
>>2059907Fucking retarded gooks, why can't anyone in the region get their shit together?I'm still paying rent on a place in Malaysia, was hoping to at least try Vietnam if they sorted things out first but it all looks fucked now.Goddamn retards who can't wash their hands and gathering like flies around a turd everywhere.
>>2059914lol you are going to be mad for YEARS and you deserve it because you are actually blaming local people for this bullshit, you deserve all the drawbacks in life you get. It's not their fault, it's not the country's fault. Keep pointing fingers at the random local politicians that are getting bullied though.
>>2058409I think Phuc Quoc is cooler than Krabi or Bali
>>2054822Never be sure about that. They ping-pong hard with their policies and it changes overnight.
>>2059654My apartment just got quarantined. Propped up a desk and some chairs so I’m not getting out. Got food for like…three days :/
>>2059914>Why can't gooks get their shit in order?>Meanwhile mutts and europoors each have half a million dead with East Asia being in the tens of thousandsReally made me think
>>2060421This lol, 600k death in the U.S. and they are telling other countries to get their shit in order, lmfao
>>2060422I mean I think that was true before but cases and deaths are increasingly exponentially, and here in Vietnam less than 1% of the population is fully vaccinated. We’re gonna be living with pretty harsh restrictions into next year.
>>2054824My whole word just got blockaded from the whole city and as of yesterday my entire block is blocked off from the rest of the ward so I can't even go to a local store even if I had a special paper because there is a giant barricade with soldiers stopping movement. Well technically I think I can leave but then I can't come back in which has no purpose and makes no sense. Also tomorrow morning the army is coming to test one person from every household for whatever reason, apparently nobody is sick or anything. Regardless please send food I'm sick of rice soup and Hao Hao and bread supplies are dwindling.
>>2060763Same here and I have an appointment to get vaccinated this Thursday, and my company and the management office at my apartment is giving me different answers on whether I'm legally allowed to go and get vaccinated. The whole situation has gotten really fucked up recently.
>>2060772Post in the thread if you manage to get a vaccine I'm interested in how it's actually rolling out vs what the richfags on nosebook groups are claiming. I really hate to be the guy who tells everyone>I'm staying in the comfort of my own home without having to work aaaaaaa I'm going insaaaane!But it's getting there and it makes me feel a little better knowing there are others in a similar situation. I've been trying to brush up on some vietnamese but all the recourses online are wierd northern dialects so it only helps with reading and writing.
>>2060781It's likely closer to 800k actuallyhttps://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanam/article/PIIS2667-193X(21)00011-9/fulltext
>>2060781>calls others niggers>talks like a nigger>thinks like a nigger>probably is a niggerReally making me think
>>2060778Yeah, I can’t leave. Even with an appointment to get vaccinated and a letter from my company and the hospital, it’s not possible. A few coworkers have said the same.
>>2060788There's a huge difference between dying with covid and dying of covid, you mongoloid
>>2055469yeah but they're all 5 hours away from us and canada. nobody from usa and canada is going to fly 12 hours and put up with a grueling covid bullshit to lay about in a shitty and undersupplied resort. but i guess it doesnt matter if they have the chinese and indians.
>>2061153don't forget the chinese and indians don't really do the "eat where the locals eat" either, they will gladly accept a private setting where they don't have to have any local interaction aside from some theme shows
I thought Vietnam handled the virus pretty much the best out of any country?
>>2061475Delta variant fucked things up
>>2060957Where did you get this stat? I'm legitimatly curious about it but can't just believe some bar graph without details.
>>2054822Have absolutely 0 interest in going to the artificial, sterile, isolated, Vietnamese-Disneyland tourist island of Phu Quoc. I loved places like Hoi Ann, Da Nang, Hue and Saigon. If I can't go back to them again then fuck it, Latin America is always open.
>>2059886How about you go fuck yourself. What a fucking stupid ass solution to a non-existent problem. If you hate tourists so much then do yourself and everyone else a favor and stay the fuck home."Muh low-budget tourists" were literally the first people to invest in and build up Thailand into what it is today. Funny how people forget that. The biggest abusers of tourism anyways are the Chinese, so why punish everybody else just because of them?
>>2060422Because the final solution to this pandemic is the vaccine- not your autistic small-dicked ASEAN-style lockdowns and face saving propaganda stunts- and you guys fucking suck at administering the vaccine and coming up with real long lasting solutions, while the US more or less managed to do so successfully this year. Stop circle-jerking over getting lucky in 2020- we are well past half-way through 2021, and the world is currently waiting for Southeast Asia to stop being corrupt, retarded, power hungry shitholes and do their global role in finally stomping out this fucking virus. Last year the US was the weakest link in the chain when it came to the virus, now its Southeast Asia. Sort your fucking shit out already.
>>2059932Ah yes, it's never the Southeast Asian people's fault, but it was all the American people's fault last year right? Everybody lined up to take the piss out of Americans in 2020, but suddenly get defensive when the shoe is on other other foot, and your retarded ASEAN military dictatorships and Communist central governments end up with the harsh realization their autistic response to the pandemic and face saving propaganda bullshit isn't fooling anyone anymore.
>>2055469Apples and oranges. Those places you listed are successful because they are right in America's backyard, with easy, no headache, visa-free access, and cater to typical Boomer American work lifestyles where they maybe only get 2 weeks off a year and just want a quick, easy, hassle-free, all-inclusive in-and-out resort experience to recharge and get back to work. Expecting this model to work successfully in a place like Southeast Asia which is an entirely different beast and attracts an entirely different clientele is ridiculous. In Da Nang I saw so many of these resorts on the coastline just sitting there abandoned and emptied, many of them only partially constructed and unfinished and this was peak-tourism in 2019.
>>2062654The US is having another wave of 50,000 cases a day while Vietnam still only has 6,000 a day, despite low vaccination rates. The fuck are you even talking about?
>>2062679Implying cases matter any more when most of the US is vaccinated and the virus now has the death rate lower than that of the fucking flu among the majority vaccinated.Enjoy starving your own country to death and completely destroying your economy though over some "muh cases" dick measuring contest like its still fucking May, 2020. Whatever helps your dumbass, flavor-of-the-week, low IQ ASEAN dictatorship government "save face" and avoid looking like a complete and total failure in front of his people. Its become clear at this point that your government has less and less to stand on with each passing month.
>>2062654>>2062670>>2062701This poster is gonna be a star. I can see it. Sharp, vicious, precise, he’s got it all. Yea the ASEAN govts literally use the military not to defend their countries but to oppress and impoverish their own people and crush dissent so they can keep subhumanly continuing to emebezzle and take bribes. Morality is completely non-existent here it’s fascinating
It's all fake. PCR tests are nonsense and their sensitivity is arbitrary. Everything is bullshit and if you don't see it too you are my enemy.So repeat the official numbers as much as you want. Wear your cuck muzzle and get your gene therapy.As far as I am concerned you are dead to me and your opinion is not only worthless, but pointless.
>>2062701>>2062729calm down bro