In my opinion, it’s St. Louis. It’s in the US, which automatically puts it in “most soulless” contention, and it also has a murder rate in the top 10 highest in the world despite being in the first world. Hard to argue that the title can go to any other city.
>>1914966Lloydminster Canada or Kyzylorda Қызылopдa Kazakhstan
In another thread someone said Amarillo, TX but I can't figure out why.
City of Industry, CAWe have a population of about 100 because elected officials must live in the city
>>1914975yeah most places near lloyd are dying, decaying and rotting. North Battleford, PA, Drumheller, et al. I don't miss the prairies.I'm gonna say Thunder Bay Canada is pretty fucking forbidding
probably one of those ctrl C+V cities in China.Other than that, some faggy shithole like Toronto or San Francisco.
>>1915037because some anon lives there probably and is bored as fuck so made a thread/post about it. Plenty of US anons have paris sydrome about the rest of the world not realize it is just the other side of the fence
>>1914966>In my opinion, it’s St. Louisthe boomer lawyer with the gun was pretty iconic tho
>>1914966unironically san francisco
>>1915068>>1914975northern ontario and prairies are both pretty cursed. Oil towns and mining towns, both where dreams go to die and where the people are beyond cursed
In taipei it is actually a crime to appreciate soulfulness
TorontoVancouverOrlandoSan FranciscoLos Angeles
>>1915185This is such a weird answer, as a midwesterner i always get a very distinct vibe when i visit san francisco.
>>1915361>>1915185>>1915078>San Francisco>soullessmeme brained retards>>1915389for pol tourist incels "soulless"= relevance to "da left" in their pleb culture war bullshit
>>1915354You think so? I always thought that what Taipei lacked in natural beauty it made up for in hiking on its outskirts. Otherwise it is definitely not the prettiest city
>>1914966Kansas CitySt. LouisOrlando
>>1915390Dilate you left coast tranny faggot
>Dilate you left coast tranny faggot
>>1914966Why does high crime = soulless? I’ve never been to St. Louis but I know that a lot of great music has come from there, they have an iconic baseball franchise, and those buildings look somewhat cool.
>>1915417High crime = soulless because developers aren't keep on the upkeep of areas that continuously fall victim to "diverse and vibrant communities." It probably goes without saying but that's just newspeak for "low income and violent minorities"
>>1915417It doesn’t. Chicago and DC are examples of cities with high crime but have plenty of soul and identity.Places like STL, Kansas City, Memphis are just shitholes with no soul to begin with and the crime only adds to how bad the place is
>>1915439NYC in the 70s and Miami in the 80s were the epitome of Soul and both were extremely crime ridden.
>>1914966Any US city with a lot of tech companies
>>1914966Denver, CO. Ugly as fuck. The only reason people like it is because of the mountains and you have to drive hours to get anywhere good in the mountains.
As far as place I've lived. It would be this shithole>traffic >have to take the interstate no groudlevel routes>suburban sprawl>boring downtown that has like 2 bars>All the walk-able neighborhoods are either ghetto or filled with out of town students>have to drive 30 minutes to get anywhere>the university is like it's own desperate city>only cool parts are the lakes and capital buildingDon't think I ever traveled to a place as boring and bland as Baton Rouge. Maybe in other states but not other countries
>>1915701The city hasn't really updated its look since the 70s and 80s. Now all that pops up is suburbs
>>1915708you gotta get out of there
>>1915708My experience with anglo cities is that the zoning laws and car culture create these "fake" downtown areas where almost nobody lives, and endless suburban sprawl, which is just disgusting.South european cities are a mess, and often very ugly, but they never feel as void and fake as this kind of place.Of course the "liveliness" of the city usually adds next to nothing to the life of a wageslave like me but it is still a comfort.
>>1915716I've moved away years ago thankfully. I still dread the memories of the place. My god I remember wasting hours of my life sitting on I-10 and I-12. The city is made for the automobile and nothing else.>>1915720>"fake" downtown areas where almost nobody lives, and endless suburban sprawl, which is just disgusting.Pretty much. The only thing that's in the downtown is offices which everybody who works there drives to. This leaves a desolate downtown where you see nobody walking around and the whole place gives off a ghost town vibe. Honestly, even if some cities are dangerous at least there is a liveliness to them but with places like Baton Rouge the place might as well be a desert.Of course there is a new fade in urbanism which I call the McMain St which is basically a block of historic buildings gets turned into a fancier strip mall with overpriced stores. I've noticed this in similar cities and Baton Rouge is trying this to an extent but people here just drive everywhere so it falls miserably here.
>>1915722where'd you end up moving?
>>1915735Back to New Orleans where I'm from originally. Living out in Baton Rouge wasn't a choice, I was displaced after Katrina and that's were my family re-settled but after high school and I couldn't stand it. New Orleans has a lot of problems but it isn't desolate like Baton Rouge. Fuck even the burbs here aren't as soulless as the CTRL + V /C suburbs around Baton Rouge. The biggest podcast out of Baton Rouge is literally called Baton Rouge Sux. It's a running joke that the city is universally hated. Even a neighborhood called St. George voted to leave Baton Rouge and form it's own city, that's how terrible this city is.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._George,_Louisiana
>>1914966kouvola finland. not only is it most souless city but its been voted to be most needless city
>>1915739Aw shit man, I'm sorry. I helped clean up some places after Katrina but at that point no one except for the bars and voodoo shops had moved back
>>1915488i can smell the coke and champagne now
>>1915701how bought aspen same shit?
>>1915754Aspen has stayed nice but it's always been a haven for rich people. Plenty of NIMBYism going on
>>1915037Went to high school there. It's kind of a poor place. Lot of meth, broken dreams, bitter people.Could probably do worse though. I have fond memories of the place.>>1914966I'm going to say Las Vegas. Sure, it has a rich culture, but it's built entirely on gambling. The fucking mob controls all of the casinos. Their signature cuisine is the all-you-can-eat hotel/casino buffet. All the neon, the glitz and glamour, it's all merely an illusion, a mirage.
>>1915762>The fucking mob controls all of the casinos.
>>1915734Tbf you just described jewish heaven
>>1914966Atlanta, or at least its suburbs are absolutely soul sucking, even the nice ones
>>1915762>The fucking mob controls all of the casinosi wish
>>1915743This anon is onto it. Too many mutts itt that never left muttland. Scandi countries are the pinnacle of soulless suicide tier.
>>1914966Harrisburg, PALiterally couldn't take how desolate and grey the city was. Color palette was grey, rust, Tanisha grey, rusty tan, greyish rust. Fallout 5: Harrisburg for real.
Unpopular answer - NYC Sorry but its just a bunch of impoverished ethnic people in filthy ghettos, andrich white people who moved to NYC to pretend to be poor. I guess its a semantics thing - some people do consider being yelled at by a homeless black man with no teeth and wearing a pink skirt in broad daylight in the middle of the street a soulful and culturally enriching experience.
>>1915783Man you're a crybaby. Suburbs everywhere look THE SAME
>>1915840Objectively wrong answer
>>1915417Wait, what fucking musicians are from St. Louis? I’ve seen some YouTube vids of their hoods and I can’t imagine anyone with a soul coming out of there.
>>1914966DubaiIt's like a massive entertainment park without any history or culture
>>1915994Miles Davis and Chuck Berry are from there
>>1916018Any born in the past 90 years?
>>1915861The thread is about soulless places to live, so i posted one. Sounds like you're the one that got upset for no reason, fren
>>1914966The word you're looking for to describe STL is shithole, not soulless. Objectively it is a shithole but there are still some decent older parts and pockets of soul scattered around the city and surrounding area. Soulless would be something like Houston, Phoenix, or Las Vegas.
I’ve lived all over the Midwest and St. Louis while mostly poor and crime-ridden isn’t what I’d call soulless.The Twin Cities (Minneapolis/St. Paul) are the epitome of soulless. I’d say Indianapolis is the runner-up, and I say that as somebody who loves both Minnesota and Indiana on the whole, just not those cities.
>>1916101Whats so special about Indiana
>>1916101>>1916131Minneapolis isn't that bad. There's some decent stuff there. Indianapolis on the other hand is indeed a soulless shithole.
>>1914966Look anon, all cities are soulless in their own unique ways. I live in a commuter town outside of NYC and it absolutely sucks balls. Even if I lived a little closer it still will make no difference. NYC is extremely overrated and expensive. I really want to explore and find something new but end up being disappointed every time. Make some research before visiting and be aware of your budget. Just figure out what you like about the city and just focus the positive aspect instead of bickering on "muh city is shithole niggerville". Just move to another city and you will see the same results.
>>1915436I live in St Louis it really sucks, even the parts that have money.
>>1914966every anglo-canadian city except maybe halifax and st. john's nfl. also>adelaide, australia>every city in texas>every city in arizona>every city in iowa>birmingham uk>stockholm>oslo>every city in finland>every city in russia except moscow and st petersburg>every city in the former eastern bloc except their capitals and most polish cities>every city in kazakhstan>every non tier-1 city in china
>>1916134All the stage around Minneapolis is great. Minneapolis itself is the least memorable large city I’ve been to. There’s nothing discernible about Minneapolis or Indianapolis that distinguishes them as anything other than just being a city where people live and work.Of course both are much safer than St. Louis, Memphis etc, but they’re extremely sterile cities.Minnesota is my favorite non-mountain state for scenery and Indiana/Kentucky have my favorite types of people, the right mix between southern hospitality and Midwestern laidback persona, but Indianapolis has nothing noteworthy about it.>>1916131Does this whole true for Annapolis?
>>1914975Jesus Lloydminster is truly pure fucking shit. Its a fuckin pustule sitting on the highway forcing you to slow to 50 for no fucking reason when 90% of the people in the city should be dead anyways. Fuck that place.
>>1915762One could almost say that Vegas is full of...Fear and loathing?
Lubbock TX has been named the most boring city in america. There truly is nothing there and it's in an extremely dull area geographically
>>1915048I grew up in California. There is no industry in that city. Not a single factory could survive with all the regulations. What's weird though is that Cliff bars are made not too far in Berkeley of all places
>>1915078>>1915185>>1915361>>1915389I grew up in the bay, a lot of locals who didn't commute to SF for work avoided it unless there was a reason to go. Gentrification and corporate sterilization ruined SF. SF used to be a place for gay runaways to make a new start for themselves, now it's a place for rich yuppies to hobb nobb over $14 beer. The place acts like Berkeley on social sides but may as well be new York on their building codes. SF was never cheap, but it has never been unaffordable to the lower class, now the tenderloin is full of a weird mix of the absolutely destitute (homeless) and upper middle class. >The culture I'm just gonna come right out and say it. SF doesn't have a culture anymore. The gay district is now little more than mega chains with pride flags and a few, struggling, businesses. The pier is tourist traps and mega chains. Hard Rock Cafe and bubba gumps somehow gets more of the tourist money. Alcatraz is trash unless you book 3 weeks in advance you won't get on the only fairy that goes there. BART is a mess, high crime and (ever since fruitvale) toothless police too afraid to write a ticket. It's essentially optional to pay. The art scene is for the rich, no musuem in that city costs less than $50/ticket without some kind of discount. The homeless run the street. They will literally just camp in the middle of a street and the cops will do nothing. >But anon it's the famous city by the bay! They aren't even the only city by the bay, Oakland is a shithole but it at least has a distinct identity. SF wants to be new York without the skyscrapers
>>1914966St. Louis actually has a ton of history. At the turn of the century it was the fourth largest city in America, the confluence of the Missouri and Mississippi for about two centuries was a huge deal culturally. It is pretty miserable these days, but not more so than countless other American cities. Calling it soulless is silly, there are many other pejoratives that apply.Contrast this with somewhere like Hannover, which has immense history but was sadly bombed repeatedly over the course of months to 99% destruction during the war. The quality of life there is unimpeachable, its a fantastic affordable place to live. But the bombs took all its charm away and its become a pretty soulless imitation of a commuter suburb.
>>1914966any american city that isn't on a coast reallyeven then the coast ones aren't much better
>>1916302Gaze at the SOVL
>>1916658and this SOVL
>>1916659and let's not forget this SOVL
>>1916660To conclude, SOVVVL!!!
>>1914966Annapolis is SOVLFVL
>>1914966Le Havre, FranceThanks to the US carpet bombing the city in 1945, this place is like the worst commie block city situated in western Europe.
>>1916663Pretty much all of the mid-Atlantic towns are soulful save for a few
>>1916598SF has a soul tho.It has the soul of a homeless meth whore dating a google executive.
>>1916678We should do it again
>>1916678You got to break a few eggs to make an omelette, frog boy.
>>1916679East coast harbor towns are peak SOVL.
>>1916755Second. Frogs will thank us a second time.
>>1916680Most of the techies don't even really live in SF anymore, it is more around mountain view. SF is a lot smaller than people think it is, it is only slightly bigger than Columbus, OH by population. Most industry avoids it unless they are rich and want "muh prestige" of being headquartered in a major city. Also the tech "headquarters" are not really exciting to the city. My GF and I went there pre-covid (like 2 years ago) and they wouldn't even let you tour the lobby of most places. Pintrest has a cafe, but that is about as exciting as it gets. Also tech headquarters in general aren't exciting, most of these places have multiple headquarters and they don't really employ that many people. Most of these places have headquarters in >Austin, TX >Atlanta, GA>New York, NY >Seattle, WA >Delaware (for tax reasons)There just isn't anything unique about the SF tech scene, the bay's tech scene largely excludes SF because of the constant regulation and taxes, Mountain View promised more land and lower taxes to tech companies so Google and Faceberg took it. Their employees thank them for it too, your average tech worker making $150,000/yr would literally have to live in the ghettos of SF unless their partner or room mate also worked for the same salary (Which is not as common as people think)
>>1916661>>1916660>>1916659>>1916658Enjoy the SOUL of Minneapolis for about another 10 years at best, that city is about to be the next Detroit. I mean this in earnest, if you want to travel to the twin cities, do so within the next 2 years because they are going to die a slow, economic death thanks to the riots, reduced tourism from the Mall of America, and the public opinion that they are "unsafe.">Tourists will stop visiting because they feel unsafe and they are a budget tourist location competing with other localities >Business will dry up because hold for a few major chains, people will not want to move there. At least Chicago was smart enough to separate their bad areas from their good and maintain a functional police force. Tourism accounted for eight billion dollars for the city of Minneapolis. People aren't going to visit them anymore after the riots and the pandemic.
>>1916776>they wouldn't even let you tour the lobby of most places>Pintrest has a cafe, but that is about as exciting as it gets....>Also tech headquarters in general aren't exciting,Then why the fuck are you going to them? They're fucking office buildings where people work, not a theme park
>>1916293>>1915346Canada has a ton of SOUL, at least it has nice people too who are super friendly and nice. American flyover cities are just dogshit
>>1916781I don't think it will affect Minneapolis that much. A relative few people will move, and businesses will stay put because they all know every other city is just as pozzed and out of control as their own.
>>1916781as a minneapolis resident it is very clear you have no idea about minneapolis
>>1916781I went to Minneapolis back in 2019 and it was a beautiful city. I wonder how much the riots have actually changed the city?
>>1916840aside from the immediate vicinity not much. immediately after it was pretty grim with so many businesses preemptively boarding up with plywood and etc., but most places with any financial staying power have opened up. The local businesses that couldn't afford have closed up and with the covid restrictions there isn't a lot of interest in opening but even this past august/september when we thought we were coming out of covid things were looking again. i think the biggest question is how minneapolis is going to react with permanent changes to police force, etc. There are a lot of wealthy residents in the south minneapolis/uptown area that will continue to support business
>>1914966I live in St. Louis. It's not soulless. It's shitty and filled with niggers but we got some nice museums ,BBQ and outdoor stuff.
>>1916793>>1916839>>1916840Every city that has gone through this has had similar results. >Riots >White flight and economic hardship >Police get cut (defunding) >Crime skyrockets >remaining tax base fucking leaves Rochester, NY went through the same thing. The riots drove out industry to the point that nobody wants to fucking move there today. Same with Erie, PA., Detroit, MI and a few other places. >>1916891>i think the biggest question is how minneapolis is going to react with permanent changes to police force, etc. There are a lot of wealthy residents in the south minneapolis/uptown area that will continue to support businessYes, but how many will stay and of the ones that do stay, how many will have children that stay? Once the schools go to shit (and they will) and downtown becomes unsafe (getting there) and the tourists stop showing up (they will) the real hurt begins. Target and a few other places will stay, they don't want to look racist and "abandon their community" but other businesses don't mind. A handful of factories and businesses (some that employ hundreds of people) have already left. For context, I am not saying that the place will totally fucking collapse, but it is not going to be the same place in 10 years.
>>1916950That's anywhere that's a big city in America anon
>>1916950i actually live a block off nicollet. it seems just fine to me. pretty quiet these days actually.
>>1915762Vegas fag here. Sadly agree. Very transient population, beige strip malls as far as the eye can see. Great if you consider eating/drinking at a bar until sunrise hobbies then you’re set.
>>1915488they were the epitome of soul in MOVIES and ART. not actually being there
definitely either bismarck nd or st cloud, bismarck is literally satans asshole made real, combined with a constant wind and it is easy number 1 for na. st cloud while not really being a city is technically one, its a fucking pimple in a giant ass cornfield. shoutout to billings mt for being so fucking bad that it makes me want to cry every time I go to see my sister in bozo.
>>1916840minneapolis is a fucking shithole full of niggers. no self respecting white minnesotan spends more time than he has to there. plus that's where the gay is. fucking shithole voting in more gun control and gibs for niggers who don't work.
>>1916936dude I dont think you understand how shit the schools are in minneapolis now they spend 5x as much on each one of those fucking niglets and spics as they do white kids from the poorest most post industrial parts of the north and they still do 40% worse on tests. idk idc if that's cuz they're niggers or because the schools are bad, no self respecting parent wants to raise their children near some fucking niggers if they can help it.
Kansas city and Indianapolis are truly depressing gross feeling places if I never have to go to indy again ill be better off
>>1916839>mpls residentjogger please
>>1917246>in minneapolis now they spend 5x as muchBaltimore is actually the same. Waste of money. Monkeys can't turn into homo sapiens that fast
>>1916776I've been living in Hongcouver for almost a year now and the parallels to your photo are nauseating to think about. It's marginally better now that I'm further away from the DTES but I still have to be surrounded by the sanctimonious champagne-socialist pricks that enable this kind of shit.
>>1915390>incel>pol>da left>culture warjesus christ, just fucking kill yourself lol why even post here
>>1916776Who the fuck tours office buildings?
>>1918068There is nothing wrong with Kansas City as long as you stay out of the hood.
>Any city in TexasESPECIALLY San Antonio
>>1915814More like too many butthurt euroniggers and their "muh soulles" retarded memes
>>1916840Minneapolis is awesome. Riots change nothing long term. People who scream about niggers have rarely if ever spent time there.
Norfolk VA. If you're not Navy or going to ODU it's the most god awful grey shithole.I would say Richmond now that the Confederate shit is all gone, nothing but cookie cutter hipster faggots who think breweries + gastropubs + white people with tattoos = "vibrant" neighborhoods.
>>1916936>but it is not going to be the same place in 10 years.Yes it is>>1917246>>1918117You cannot make people learn who fundamentally do not want to learn>>1918438>People who scream about niggers have rarely if ever spent time there.Shut up
>>1918171>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THIS IS MY SAFE SPACE ALL DA KOOL KIDS TOLD ME THEY HANG OUT ON 4CHAN THIS IS OUR PLACE NOW I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 4 YEARS!!!!
>>1918531I agree with this post, election tourists (both redditards and cuckistanis) are fucking insufferable.
>>1914966Going to have to disagree with you. I've been to quite a few more cities that seemed more "soulless" than STL. I live there so I'm a bit bias, but our buildings are quite old(STL is almost 100 yrs older than Chicago). The murders are only between people who know each other & aren't random, so unless you are into some very shady shit or are just retarded & aren't aware of your surroundings you'll be fine. I even frequent some of the more rough areas where murders do happen, and most of the people are genuinely good and the areas are safe enough to walk. There is plenty history here and we have our own culture, I have no idea why it would be considered "soulless". Maybe if you've never visited and had absolutely no idea what to do & where to go(no idea why that would happen, there is plenty to do here and a good amount is free if charge like the zoo). Figured I'd make my case, any questions let me know, I've lived in St Louis basically all my life.
>>1915390Next time just say idpol, you'll look like less of a tranny fuck
>>1916586I'm a pilot and whenever I get asked what the most boring place I've been to is I consistently say Lubbock.Thankfully the people are nice and the hotel we stay at is good. Kept serving us free food and drinks right through this year.
Albuquerque, New MexicoWeird Al was rightplace is a shit hole
>>1916960>>1915762Las Vegas is a given. You go there to BE soulless.
>>1919293That’s no excuse
>>1916586american cities are so ugly
San Jose, California aka “Man Jose”.
>>1920560*Laughs in Boston*
>>1915354>>1915392Taipei never struck me as being soulless - if anything I interpreted it as being the oppositeAll those mouldy brutalist buildings with moss and weeds on them feel as if they're slowly mutating into living organisms, decomposing into the mountainous forests surrounding the cityAs the second anon mentioned all those rural small towns and mountainous forest areas surrounding the city seem really cool too
>>1921064Taipei itself is a city built for functionality in many parts. The exterior of buildings can be absolutely grimy and unkempt but the interiors are typically outstanding (marble floors, for example)
>>1919187>STL is almost 100 yrs older than ChicagoIt’s like 10 years older. Not sure why you would tell such a stupid lie but St Louis people always have a chip on their shoulder about Chicago.
>>1921034You aren’t really helping our cause posting some rocks and bricks.>>1920560Here
>>1915390San Francisco is totally soulless.
>>1921099Soulless inhuman towers. Absolutely disgusting. Also, are we supposed to know what city this is?
>>1914966literally every saudi arabian citysand-colored blocky houses that all look the same, various mansions with nouveau riche designs, weird fucking massive skyscraper architecture "just because we can", tons of american fast food joints, gaudy ornaments, lights, and displays randomly placed.
>>1914966imo it's nyc.I was born and raised there and it legit sucks. People who talk it up are full of shit and have some hollywood version in their heads. It's just an expensive as fuck dirty stinky city filled to the brim with shitty miserable people
>>1921209>Soulless inhuman towersThat sort of reductionist trolling could be used to criticize any city, or any thing.>hurrr that musician’s guitar has no soul it’s just a soulless chunk of wood>hurrr this temple has no soul it’s just bricks and heated sandFuck off and grow up.
>>1916586t. Guy who got raider rash
>>1916789>>1918359Most companies with an exciting business will offer something to the public as a token gesture. Lots of companies put out a small gift shop for their hardcore fans.
>>1916586I would love to live in Lubbock or Amarillo
>>1923196Kek, the thumbnail looks like a garbage dump
>>1921228Yes NYC is clearly more soulless than planned cities in saudi arabia and russian cities filled with pollution
>>1917109This. Half of nu/trv/ would of killed itself by now if they were stuck in even the “glamorous” depictions of 70s NYC due to never having any money to travel outside of any of the boroughs.
>>1923196Houston made the right call by replacing parking lots with buildings lol
>>1914966Definitely Venice and Paris.Soulless does not just mean "shitty". London is more of a shithole than either of those, yet London still retains so much soul with pub culture and the buildings being run down because they don't want to renovate their history. Paris and Venice have just had their entire identity torn and there is no culture left to save it. All the buildings are renovated, and yet still they are trashed because the local population is filthy and ugly. The people are just human garbage without wit nor entertaining shenanigans to salvage the mess stumbling around living until they die in a hallow husk of what once was a city with identity.
>>1923245I've never been to those shitholes you nigger so I can't say definitively that they're worse. I know NYC is the most soulless place I've ever had the displeasure of knowing currently
>>1915361>>1915078>>1914966>>1915708Dont be such a faggot. American cities are perfect.French cities on the other hand are dirty and look lile fucking slums. They are the definition of soulless.
New York, LA, London, Tokyo, St. Louis, Paris, Venice, Lagos, Las Vegas, Rome
>>1923258I enjoyed reading this
>>1923195The girls at Texas tech (big uni in Lubbock) are known to be slutty. The mascot of Texas tech is the raider. The cheerleaders are known as raiders Thus the name of the STDs from the raiders is called raider rash
>>1920560Shut the fuck up, europeasant.
>>1914966NYC, specifically Manhattan. It's literally Shopping Mall City. A rat infestation, good restaurants and big business/theater does not give it soul. Some other bits like Brooklyn, Brighton Beach, Bronx, etc., I'll let you make an argument for, but Manhattan itself is soulless. >>1915390>san fag>has a soulpick one. I'll admit that I'm a far right /pol/fag but even then I'm not so up my own ass that I'll claim Cali has no soul. It's literally in the rest of the state. Catalina, Napa Valley (touristy af, i know, but far better than SF and LA), Lake Tahoe, any of the national parks, death valley... Cali is a unique place and frankly, the retarded politics don't add or take away soul from a city. San Diego arguably has a bit of soul given it's a big city with somewhat of a small town feel. Sacramento arguably is similar but not quite as nice as SD.
>>1918531>why am i getting shit flung at me?>could it be because I'm like furries and bronies, bringing off topic shit up where it doesn't belong and complaining when i'm told i'm a faggot for bringing this off topic shit up?>no, it has to be because they all banded together to persecute me!go be a furfag tier retard somewhere else, I can keep politics away from /trv/ and so can you
>>1920560>i dont know about Portland, ME>i dont know about St. Augustine, FL>i dont know about New Orleans>I dont know about Charleston, SC>I don't know about Concord, NHeurofags out
>>1925412I’ve only heard of New Orleans and Portland which I thought was known for hipster faggota. If you haven’t heard of a place it probably doesn’t have much soul
>>1915078>Toronto or San Francisco.Shitty != soulless.
>>1915390Why are you booing him? He’s right
All these travellets posting first world citiesGet a passport and travel a bit before you post about NYC or Paris.
Pretty much any us city with the exception of miami or new York. When you people get your shit together can't wait to visit, thankfully with that shithead out of office you all might get some common sense from the Obama guy
>>1926285He guy not trump
>>1915068Are you from the North Battleford/Lloydminster area?
>>1915390Judging by the sheer amount of replies, you've hit some soft spots.
>>1926311trump is nigger
>>1914966There's even an inadvertent soul in the face of industrialisation and urban decay. It's the bourgeois self-satisfaction inherent to modern Liberalism that creates the true soullessness we see today. This comes in two forms. Most widespread is the middle class strip mall and adjoining suburbs. More concentrated but culturally significant are the urbane, cosmopolitan enclaves of mostly tech and white collar workers, served by hordes of sallow, gigging minorities and downwardly mobile students.
And we see this in action here in the thread. The defense of cities like SF and Miami is of course beauty and life to this class of people. Same thing with LA if the city hadn't undergone an influx of homelessness and flight of the wealthy. You'd have people going on about how lovely LA is.This is a gulf of perception between people who have placed not only their material and financial interests but their souls and what it means to them to live as human beings, within two different and opposing camps. Violence is the only answer.
>>1926345no my mother not trump
>>1914966Birmingham England has to be up there. I can't even think of a redeeming thing about it.
>>1925927Portland maine isn't portland oregon tard
>>1926282orengh man bad??
>>1923196Looks real from the thumbnail
>>1921209>Also, are we supposed to know what city this is?Shitty bait. Chicago has one of the most famous and instantly recognizable skylines in the world
>>1925927I hate clueless Yurofucks so goddamn much
>>1926939Lmao, flyover cope. Nothing about thst skyline stands out
Imagine trolling and baiting on a travel board of an anonymous Japanese anime image board of all places. How pathetic must your life be that this is what you've devolved to?
>>1914966St Louis is actually pretty cool IMO. Tons of history, 100 year old buildings everywhere you look, and a a decent party/bar scene in the neighborhoods like Soulard. I think any other city in Missouri is more soulless
>>1921099I like Chicago but this picture really just looks like a bunch of tombstones next to the water
You're probably just some teenage dumbass who wants to feel cultured and hate your Midwestern family. St Louis has tons of soul, the history with the World's Fair and Western Expansion, a fuckin HUGE arch, the 2nd best zoo in the country, so many different architectural styles, the urban decay of the outer city, the Hill, the city museum is one of a kind in the whole world, the art museum, the science centre, the jewel box, etc. Went to college there and I still miss it a decade later.
>>1914966St. Louis is actually one of the few cities in the US that has some semblance of historical value and that isn’t on the eastern seaboard. Just because a city is violent and has high crime doesn’t necessarily put it into the category of soulless. Get some perspective.
Sacramento or Stockton CA
>>1914966>It's in the US, which automatically puts it in "most soulless" contentionRelative to what? West/Central Europe? Africa? Fuck off.
>>1915390I live in Vancouver and it really is a soulless place, dilate harder you tranny faggot.
>>1915068>grow up knowing nothing about Thunder Bay except a bit of centuries-old history and thinking the name is awesome and the place must be cool>drive through it as an adultthe world is cruel
>>1923087>Actually believing corporations have the innate good-will to "give" something back to the community.>Pic related.
>>1914966ever city in france is equally soulless. the entirety of this shithole is just commieblocks filled with arabs and crumbling shitty "historical " centers.you cant find worse even in haiti or africa
>>1921099I lived in Chicago for a good while and while it can look nice from some angles it was the most soulless city I've lived in. even St. Louis has more soul. chicago is just garbage.
>>1918531I've never seen someone so bad at trolling. you need to be more subtle if you actually want people to have an emotional reaction. I award you no credit, and may god have mercy on your soul.
>City whose politics trigger me is souless it has poor peopleJesus fuck how the Hell does anyone see posting this multiple times a day fun?
>>1925927>I dont know about Charleston, SC>doesn't have much soul
>>1928461Northern Chicago suburbs have a ton of soul with the gilded-age architecture and the lake right there
>>1914966Every border town in Mexico. All the human garbage of that shithole country literally just stacks up against the US border and stays there. Fucking Mexicans.
>>1929127I mean they’re pretty disgusting looking cities. Mexicali, Nogales, Tijuana, And the worst being ciudad Juárez.
>>1929398My favorite meme
DANBURY, CONNECTICUT actually, any city in Connecticut.
>>1929409Big time this
>>1915322Just got back from there but I agree.
>>1930557yeah Connecticut is sucksville. I've been to Hartford a few times and what little there is to do there is all closed by like 8 pm. Like so much so it's hard to even find anything to eat. Like it's just a city where people come to work their insurance job and then everyone vacates the city by 6 pm.
>>1914966All of the gulf state cities are soulless, your Dubais, Abu Dhabis.
>>1916206odessa is nice
>>1916206As far as eastern Europe goes you are wrong bruv. Croatia has bunch of cool towns on the coast and Montenegro is anything BUT the capital. Slovenia has Maribor, Bosnia has Mostar, Budapest has has Szeged which is kinda comfy, in a same way Timisoara is in Romania. Plovdiv in Bulgaria was great. And Odessa like some other anon said. Poland, you said it yourself. Slovakia is miserable even in Bratislava, but Czech Republic was comfy, especially in Karlovy Vary. Don't know for baltics and russia though.
>>1929298>MexicaliI would argue that Mexicali is far nicer than Imperial County, California, on the other side of the border you mention.>t. Father grew up in El Centro, my most depressing family members still live in the area.
>>1915068I went to Sudbury Ontario for work a few times. A lot of people shit on it (Mostly the locals) but I liked it. Something about it was charming. I also noticed a lot of the people in general were pretty fit.
>>1915109San Fransisco is a very old city for the USA. Especially one located in the Midwest. There is also an old secret society that has a ton of power there.
>>1934103Saint Lous not San Francisco
>>1915361idk i really like toronto, whenever i go to toronto i'm awestruck by the atmosphere. it's like new york but clean
>>1915436/pol/tards ruin everything
>>1917109being soulful and being a good place to live arent necessarily the same thingtons of good art and "soul" came out of 70's NY despite it being a shit place to live.
>>1915994Nelly and the st lunatics
what about the most soulful cities in the USA?San Diego?
SINCE NON OF YOU AUTISTIC FUCKS ACTUALLY GAVE REAL ANSWERS, LET ME GO AHEAD:DUBAIASTANA
>>1914966San Jose California. no competition
>>1934524No. Maybe New Orleans
Frankfurt.It's the Ikea of European cities.
>>1934732That is bad>>1934972I would have guessed Brussels
>>1934732Yeah, they don't call it Man Jose for no reason.
>>1914966I live in STL and it's fun as hell. I travel a lot too, I guess you need to know where to go. I mean, sure you could do everything there is to do in a few days, but there's still a lot of fun shit. Lexington KY... that city is a fucking Liminal Space.
>>1916927Pretty good description. Museums get boring after your first visit tho>>1916947Lived in Clayton for 3 years, now that is soulless.
>>1926369Black Sabbath came from there.
I’m surprised Albuquerque hasn’t come up... New Mexico is great but abq is boring and dirty. There’s absolutely no parks, no sidewalks, the only people walking around are sketchy as fuck... abq feels like an overgrown sketchy truck stop
>>1914966Every single city in the US.
>>1915701This is true. Denver was the most underwhelming city I've ever visited. I was expecting Portland in the mountains but it's a generic Midwestern city on flat, brown plains
>>1935877ABQ is a standard southwest desert town. Lots of sketchy people but overall it's a cool city. Art everywhere and naturally gorgeous setting against the Sandia mountains and the Rio grand valley to the west
What’s funny is Russians know their cities are dogshit because of communism but Americans don’t realize they’re also communist so try to defend their obvious garbage.
>>1934732San Jose as a city sucks shit but at least it's within an hour or two distance of a ton of nice outdoors. A couple of national parks are a bit further out, but still within range for weekend getaways
>>1925236>Only decent looking city was built with Colombian cocaine money
>>1914966South Korean cities.
>>1915996>>1934722the ONLY correct answers in this thread. Yank niggas need to shut the fuck up. It's dubai
>>1927572>>1921209>>1921112I've never seen people so triggered by skyscrapers in my whole life. Go live in a cave.
>>1915037I live in the panhandle area and lived in Amarillo for a bit. It's a big step-up from the horrible rural areas that I've been to, but other than that it's soulless. They've been doing the same construction work on the highway at a snail's pace for what seems like 10 years. There are a few good food places but that's about it. It's all the worst parts of a rural town from the middle of nowhere with a population of 300 except upscaled to a city. It's horrible but I honestly think Lubbock, Witchita Falls, Abilene, etc. are just as bad if not worse. In fact, the only alright cities in Texas (imo) are San Antonio and parts of DFW.
>>1915701spic from Denver here, ther white areas are defineitly souless but the mexican and asian areas have given me some of my fondest memories. Shit Federal blvd on sundays was fun as fuck before covid. Lookout mountain also gives you one hell of a view of the metro area.
>>1923196>Literally just pavement, dirt, and copy/paste box buildingsWhere are the trees?!
>>1937173Up your butt
>>1915361I have been to a variety of Canadian cities, and they are all soulless to me. Anything larger than 100,000 is.
>>1914966New YorkBefore I went there I really managed to fall for the New York meme. I was so hyped, and I thought it will be like in the movies.In fact it was a smelly, dirty city with millions of people.
>>1926369At least those post-industrial UK towns have a working class character that represents something resembling a soul, however black it may be
>>1933071>>1930557I actually kinda like New Haven. It's certainly not the best city and I wouldn't want to live there, but it's not soulless.
Atlantic City -- crumbling shithole with no redeeming values
>>1915390There's a lot of soul there if you consider rampant crime and human feces to be soulful
>>1914966DubaiOnce you see the biggest this, the largest that, the worlds only indoor whatever, you realize the place is cultureless and offers no experiences you couldn't get elsewhere in the world with even the smallest tiniest bit of a middle eastern population. Its all chain stores and stuff bought. One of the only museums that tries to show the culture shows that it was nothing but fucking sand huts and minimal tools for hundreds of years then they found oil in the early 1900s and then suddenly they could build the world's largest (but mostly empty) sky scraperIf you go on vacation you can see everything worthwhile in a week, if you are very rich you can probably stretch to two weeks, but theres no reason to ever go back, especially since it is after all run by Islamic laws so its just a matter of time until you run afoul if you aren't a strict devout practicing muslim.
>>1914966kansas city or oklahoma cityfuck the bible belt
>fuck the bible belt
not an argument nigger
>>1915840dude NYC objectively has the most character of any US city. you sound like you visited once and got yelled at. newflash, it's new york retard. you'd be lucky if you didn't get heckled walking around at some point.
>>1915840 sounds like you met my man Wendell https://youtu.be/g6Ul2nwos1s
>>1914966Cleveland, Ohio. The state of Ohio itself is also soulless.
>>1914975kek loydminster is true suicide nightmare of a "city"
>>1928367had the exact same experiencewhat a dump
Its North Battleford Saskatchewanall the problems of any other shitter flyover midwest city BUT it is even further north in the Canadian wasteland.Plus it is infested with naitives who are arguably worse than joggers
>>1939382AND it also has arguably the worst weather of any Canadian prairie city
>>1939385Actually, I guess Winnipeg's climate is worse.At least Winnipeg has SOME history about it
by far the worst place i have ever been to was springfield illinois. passing through for the museum on a saturday. Nothing was there, a literal ghost town. Just homeless ghosts. No traffic or anything. (Pre-covid
>St. LouisAlmost the whole city is fucked. East and North STL are pure ghetto trash. There are neighborhoods and small areas of decency. As a native Missourian I couldn't think of any reason to actually go out of your way to visit from outside the area unless you wanted to try the food.Imo's PizzaToasted RavioliGooey ButtercakeSTL BBQWe have SOME cool shit. STL Zoo is free to visit. Forest Park is kinda cool and holds a history museum and an art museum. STL Science Center is pretty cool, but mostly for younger kids. There's a place called City Museum which is really a neat funhouse for kids. Fox Theatre is cool if you like plays. The Arch is neat, also holds a museum below it. Bush Stadium is there for baseball fans.Kansas City has less character imo, but I've only been there once
>>1915109>the boomer lawyer with the gun was pretty iconic thoMaybe to everyone outside of the area. To most of the locals those are just 2 rich pricks in a rich prick neighborhood.
>>1934103>There is also an old secret society that has a ton of power there.Let's talk.
>>1939683I liked KC. Good food, cool people, neat downtown and westport was really unique. If I'm in STL where do I go find slutty white women?
>>1939385>>1939388St. Louis’s weather is just as bad
>>1933880Yeah I love the taste of rotten water and the smell of oil permeating through every crack in every edifice of every building. Very nice! Anything outside of central and northern Texas is garbage
>>1915708You basically just described almost every American city in the American Southeast.
>>1939683Imos pizza is absolute shit
>>1916658>>1916659>>1916660>>1916661>>1916663holy fucking based. So much soul. I have to move there.
>>1915048yeah City of Industry is fucking depressing
Bradford England. A post industrial toilet. Mass Pakistani immigration means that every person with any money or sense moved out to Leeds or literally anywhere else and now it's just a weeping sore on the Yorkshire countryside. Don't bee fooled by any nice buildings you see here. 90% of this city is just endless terraced houses filled with runts
>>1925412>only decent-looking cities in America are the ones with the most European influencefigures
>>1936998>Shit Federal blvd on sundays was fun as fuck before covidWhy sundays and which part of federal? I just want to get with asian chicks desu
Unironically Berlin, it’s been so worn down with forced globalization and multiculturalism that, while extremely easy to get around in as someone who doesn’t speak any german, it feels like there is absolutely no hint of a unique culture there.
It's obviously San Fransisco.....i went there once and my pineal gland has been clarified ever since
It's Phoenix, Arizona and it's not even close.>Urban sprawl with miles between some traffic lights>Completely manufactured cookie cutter city centers>Every person that lives there is a transplant>Bland beige architecture everywhere>Middle of the fucking desert>Dry, hot, no fluctuation in weather>People only exit their homes or businesses when the sun goes down>Zero history, no connection to native american tribes that once lived there>Garbage sports scene>The most famous part, Scottsdale, is a just a huge shopping district with some clubs thrown in>Mesa, glendale, etc. are complete shit holes>No distinct industries>ASU located there which is filled with braindead, vapid and drugged kidsIt's basically Vegas without the fun
>>1938899That literally never happens if you live here, you retard. You sound like some retarded NYU transplant
>>1934973Brussels is shit because of the population, not because of the buildings.
>>1915701Went through Denver for a week for a business trip, and can confirm being 100% underwhelmed. For a 'mile high city' it was entirely flat; the downtown area was pretty boring; had a decent (but not great) meal at Fruition; the tech center area where my work actually was had to be the very definition of soulless as well.
>>1915801If you take a good look at US cities in general, you will see that their soul died the same time global corporate interests became powerful enough to displace (organized) criminal interests. Bringing down the mob seemed good at the time because the crime was legit troubling, but in its place we now have soulless corporations who siphon money out and away from the cities that they operate in. At least the mob was local.
>>1934524I like San Diego and live there, and while it is not soulless it is not particularly soulful either. Lots of small-town issues dominate politics and in general most people here are still far too impressed by money as opposed to class or soul.>>1934970Is probably right about the most soulful city. New Orleans is something else. Southern towns in general (Savannah and Charleston are usually the others in trinity of Southern cities, but smaller towns like Oxford MS are nice too) have more soul than the typical US city. Then you have the old industrial cities in the mid-west that have (or had) a different kind of soul (Chicago, Pittsburgh, Detroit) but are all deteriorating and generally becoming less soulful in some way or another. About eastern cities.... I don't have much to say. Sartre wrote a decent short essay called "Manhattan: The Great American Desert" which you might enjoy.
>>1914966Minneapolis. Nothing there but niggers and nordcucks. Very boring. The Mall of America is called the Mall of Africa by the locals. Also the sports teams suck with 0 championships.
>>1943579I've heard it was referred to as, "SoMALLia of America"
>>1943580There is more soul and culture in a town of around 500 in Wisconsin or the UP.
>>1943579The Twins have won the World Series twice
>>1943566Denver is in the Great Plains. Western Kansas is nearly as high up and nearly as flat.
>>1933071>>1938810Hartford is both soulless and a shithole. New Haven is also a shithole, but has some semblance of a soul.
>>1940409Saw some images of this shithole on that doc about the Yorkshire Ripper. Good god do Bradford and Leeds look like unbelievable cesspools.
Soullessness is tough to quantify but I've found that there's a strong correlation between a place being soulless and meth abuse. Anywhere where people feel the need to smoke that shit in order to get through their day pretty much sucks.
>>1944332Wrong image but whatever. Meth/heroin, it's the same shit. People get into that sort of thing because the place where they're living is a cultural void.
>>1944332>1 person ODs in Big Bend Nat'l Park>county's statistics are fuckedlmao
It's not the most soulless, but Honolulu is pretty fucking soulless. The city is basically empty high-rises owned by the Chinese next to slums and filled with homeless. Even Waikiki has pretty much become a shithole for the Chinese and junkies.
>>1914966Toronto, Ontario, CanadaThey have literally torn down everything that was unique about it and overbuilt shitty condos nobody wants to buy. The ecclectic neighborhoods are long gone and have been overtaken by the same corporate stores you can find in any mall across the country. It's overpriced, overcrowded, dirty and crime-ridden. The only good thing about COVID is that I haven't had to commute there in almost a year, and I really hope I never have to go back.
>>1945573Where do I find out about the cool Toronto neighborhoods that were razed