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post your Realtraveler™ maps
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>>1873977
template
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>>1873977
;_; plague ruined plans
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>>1874005
Real Travel™ knows no quarantine.

I completed Slovakia and Romania this summer, VERY proud of the latter. Was planning to unlock more stuff in Ukraine but quarantine memes would keep me limited to Zakarpattia Oblast. Also got myself Moravskoslezský Kraj in Czechia, a bunch of Polish vojvodships and prepared Bulgaria for completion on a future trip.

I'm tempted to do the rest of Italy this fall, straight down to Malta but I'd like to include Tunisia in the trip, taking a ferry from Sicily. The corona situation in Tunisia is deteriorating dramatically though.
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I don't understand the point of coloring in regions you've never set foot in. If you've only visited NYC, why color the entire country? Only in Moscow doesn't grant you the right to color in all of Siberia.

All it does is distort the map and cause some self gratification
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>>1874018
Good lad. I too am still crossing countries off during flu season
>>1874325
I guess it makes it easier to see were you've been. It's not clear for example that you've been to norway, sweden or finland without a keen eye or zooming. Normally you get a general experience of the country by going to one place in it.
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>>1874325
>Only in Moscow doesn't grant you the right to color in all of Siberia.
It's obvious that light green only means "been to the country". Going to Moscow or St. Petersburg does not allow you to color all of Siberia in dark green - and dark green is what Real Travel™ is all about. Light green is only an extra for a general overview of countries you have been to.
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Only 3 new regions since April
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dark red, born
red, lived
pink, visited
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>>1874018
Was supposed to go to usa right as they locked down, can'r do much about that.
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Cucked burgerstani stuck traveling domestically until I can figure out how to travel abroad in the near future edition.
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How am I supposed to fill that out?
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>>1874325
That's the whole point of the different shades of green, retard.
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Because of covid I'll just go to Mexico with my current annual leave. No clue what'll happen in 2021. Ethiopia looks like a possibility, I'd like to see more of Spain once their situation improves, I also want to see more of SEA.
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>>1874404
>2020
>zoomers don't know what Paint is
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Filling eüro maps is ass.
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>>1874430
probably a full time phone fag
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>>1874359
how did you like MN?
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Only Mexico this year but it's been time well-spent.
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>>1874672
What did you do in Antarctica? Was it fun?
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Knocked out weird ones first
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>>1874618
Minnesota? It was a short visit, I had a 6 hour layover in Minneapolis, took the train to the city center to see the neoclassical architecture and the mighty Mississippi river.
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>>1874932
well atleast you saw somthing check out the north next time u come
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>>1874752
Yeah it was a fucking awesome trip. It was a work trip so didn't cost anything though I did take ab it of time off pre-cruise to see a it of Argentine Patagonia. Other than the crossings being a bit rough it was smooth sailing, penguins, zodiac rides, and stunning beauty.
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>>1873979
Is this the Norwegian autist approved version?
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>>1875721
No, actually. This one is the latest. A while ago he discovered a bunch of countries, mostly African ones, had wrong borders.
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Currently in Istanbul, applying for a residency permit in another few days. Was supposed to be living in India right now, but the borders have been closed to people with my visa category since the last time I was there in March.

Probably going to visit Serbia and Albania in the near future. If India doesn't open by March or April, will go to Bangladesh, too.
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Not really sure what to do next, but I do want to fill in all of Europe in the next couple of years
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>>1876209
>Visit Kalingrad
>Colour all of Russia

I'm bothered by this
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>>1876217
you do recognize it's not the same shade of green right
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>>1876217
You do know that's the point of this map, right?
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>>1876217
Are you colour blind?
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Got to go to Greece and Portugal during Covid. Might go to Sweden because they are open.
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>>1873977
Just using the map I made last time. It's been awhile since I made this one, I've updated it, and have no memory of why some places have big red circles around them.
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>>1876732
Forgot image. And got rid of the red circles, so disregard that.

Post COVID, hopefully, plans for trips back to Ireland and Kuwait, possibly France and Mexico.

Have no plans yet on new places to go, but looking at the map, if you see something missing that you'd have on your Don't Miss It list, feel free to advise.
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>>1873977
Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, UAE, Germany, Canada, Mexico, USA(home), Bahamas
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>>1874672
Where in Kyrgyzstan did you go? Just Osh? you missed out not going to Bishkek and Issyk-kul.
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>>1876750

Osh, Arslanbob, Song Kul, and Naryn.

This was a roadtrip on the Pamir Highway so there wasn't much of a focus on hiking. Just did a big loop from Osh to Naryn and back with some horseback riding up to Song Kul. Was supposed to go back this year and mainly focus on the Tien Shan but that will have to wait.
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>>1876736
neat
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>>1877016
I spent a week hiking through Tien Shan, and It was beautiful. Bring rain gear if you go in the summer.
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And here's mine on that template
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>>1877381
>driven though
Kys
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How do you do fellow /travelers/
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Hello, Norwegian map autist here, I'm the one who made the updated Real Traveler™ map. Sorry for not keeping the map up to date, with Covid and having some problems in my personal life too, I didn't prioritize it.

Last thread I was in, I was made aware that the borders of Navarre and Basque country in Spain are slightly wrong (Navarre borders the sea on the map, but it doesn't in real life), and that I had grouped the small New Zealand outlying islands with Macquarie Island, which is in fact Australian. I appreciate these small details, as I want the map to be as accurate as possible. The states of South Sudan has also been reduced from 32 to 13 (actually 12, since they don't control Abyei). This actually happened right after the previous update, where I spent a good amount of time redrawing South Sudan from the old ten states to the 32 they had at the time. Had I waited a week, I could've left it as it was with just minor changes, lol. Ethiopia also got a new region in June, called Sidama. If anyone knows of other changes or errors on the map, please let me know and I will fix it.

In other news, RNZ reported yesterday that Bougainville, which voted for independence last year, will remain an autonomous region of PNG for the next five years, so no immediate changes there. New Caledonia will also have its second independence referendum this Sunday (October 4th), while they'll likely vote no like last time, I won't update the map until next week, just in case.

Source on Bougainville:
https://www.rnz.co.nz/international/pacific-news/427099/bougainville-to-retain-autonomy-for-next-five-years-temu

Also here is my own map. I was going to visit my friend in Germany in March, but the plague obviously put those plans on hold. That's still probably my next trip, whether it's two months from now or a year.
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>>1874325
One of the nice things about the new map is that you can color in provinces in a single click. If you insist on using the old and outdated map, please do, but at least color in both halves of Odesa oblast.
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>>1873977
I can't believe I've only travelled to the west. Why am I such a normiefag?
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Had way more planned for Africa but the coof ruined it. Bummer.
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>>1877401
Amorphis is awesome
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>>1881721
>lived in Antarctica
Dude, please tell us about it.
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So if
Dark Green = Parts of the country you've specifically visited
Light Green = The rest of the country

How would you color in Hong Kong if you last visited it before 1997? Do you color in China or the UK?
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>coloring in all of China if you only visited HK/Macau

ishygddt

I need to go Africa and South America a s a p
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>>1882062
Good on you for visiting India, but not FUCKING DELHI. Delhi, more like Hellhi. If I can take back something on my trip to India, or if I were to go back to India, one thing I would do differently is not visit Delhi.
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Most parts in Europe and all the US states (except NY) are by bicycle, Japan some parts too. Should probably color them by different color.

Only got to cycle from Helsinki to Vilnius and back this year. Next Summer cycling to the North Cape/Lofoten in Norway, then from there through Germany back to Helsinki, depending on the situation.

Even if the situation doesn't change much, Norway should still be doable, which is pretty good.
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>>1881894
Its where I spend five months of every year for work. Spend most of it on a glacier the size of Florida, part of a drilling team pulling out ice cores. The rest of it I spend in McMurdo just doing nothing, since on-continent flight delays can last literally weeks.
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>>1882472
>NY
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>>1881915
Technically the UK, but you should write something in your post to clarify I guess. Or not color the UK at all, I wouldn't color the UK if I only visited Pitcairn Islands. Your choice really. Did you visit before 1997? If so, how was it?
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crimea is russia, so
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>>1882279
From: >>1875969.

IMHO Delhi isn't really that bad, unless you're visiting India for the first time and Delhi's the first city you go to.
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>>1883675
What itinerary would you suggest for a first time India trip?
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>>1873977

Britbong who went to iraq to impress girls, hitchiking Turkey was the highlight
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>>1873977
How have I done so far?
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>>1883690
Did it work?
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>>1883735
>doesn't live anywhere currently
Anon are you dead?
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>>1883748
Look closer, Berlin's district is small.
>>1883690
Are the girls impressed with it? Where in Turkey did you like the most?
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>>1883735
>9 dash line
I'm very dissapointed you didn't colour the Spratly and Paracel islands
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>>1883771
It's more for the meme. When I go to the Chinese consulate they always have a very big map in the background featuring the 9-dash line.
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Hy хyй знaeт.
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I have never been into traveling, but in recent years I have had to travel a decent amount because of work, and it has lit a bit of a spark inside me to go out and see the world. The thing is, whenever I had a free weekend/long afternoon after work, I basically Googled "what to do in x..:" and mostly followed whatever shit it said in there. When I was familiar with some places from going there often, I'd try to walk around less known places and see the more local sights, but it never really clicked for me. I think something in the way I approach tourism is not doing it for me, but I'm not sure what. I always eat in local places when available, I try to mix with people/coworkers if at all possible, and I have done a lot of activities that I never had before (no sex though)... yet I have a nagging feeling in the back of my head that says that I should be enjoying it more than I do. Even when vacationing abroad I can't seem to shake the thought that I'm doing something wrong.

Thanks for reading my blog, I think I'll just go to the first country that opens up and is far away enough to be "exotic" I guess.
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need to get to Asia / Australia
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>>1883923
>lived in the UK
Is it true that British people don't shut the fuck up about how awful Americans are?
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>>1883935
I haven't really heard that as an adult, but when I was younger they'd say shit.
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Man I thought I was well travelled but damn there is so much gray area left
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>>1883952
Did you drive from Europe to SEA? The dark green patterns appear to suggest as much. If so, that's far cooler than what most other people have done.
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>>1883966
Yeah thank you. Actually i did. Was two years ago from germany to straya w/o flying. Then I stayed in Sydney for a year. had plans to do get on a ship to america and around the world basically. Then some Chinese guy ate a bat so now I am back in Europ
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>>1883984
>Then some Chinese guy ate a bat so now I am back in Europ
Dude, my heart breaks for you. Seriously, that sounds like one hell of an adventure. I'm sorry to hear that you couldn't complete it.

Couple of questions:
1. What did you drive (car, van, truck, motorcycle)?
2. Do you recall how much this whole trip cost?
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>>1883952

What do you like to see when you go to new places? I got to see Utah for the first time this week and it was outstanding
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>>1883987

>1. What did you drive (car, van, truck, motorcycle)?
Didn't have my own vehicle lol. I hitchiked a bunch and took lots of buses and trains

>2. Do you recall how much this whole trip cost?
around 10k € for a year. Including all the visas and a guided tour through Tibet. Not included Travel Health insurance, Vaccinations and Flight Back. I lived quite well since I mostly travelled cheap countries.

Thanks for the sympathy. Maybe I'll try again when things are back to normal probably with a bit more cash for more comfort and less hostels and overnight buses. Might even buy a van this time.
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>>1883989
Usually historical and cultural sights like temples and ruins that i choose on a whim. That sort of thing. Sometimes it's also some really dumb specific thing I want to see like Draculas Castle in Romania. What's great about Utah? I am toying with an usa west to east coast road trip for a while.
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>>1883995
Not
>>1883989


But Utah has a lot of mountain, forests, and canyons (including red canyons) for hiking and exploring - plus the salt lake. For a few months of the year you can go from arid desert to snow top mountains in less than an hour.
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>>1883995

The neature walks
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>>1883995
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>>1883995
And then
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>>1883995
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>>1883991
Damn, that sounds like a proper adventure. How was the Stans and Western China?
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>>1883677
Really depends what you want to see, Anon. India has a lot to offer, and any itinerary should probably be based around your individual interests.
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>>1883984
How did you get from Indonesia to Australia without flying? Hitched a ride on a yacht?
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>>1884012
Utah seems beautiful ngl. I am not that into hiking that much. I have always wanted to see a salt lake though.
>>1884202
Pretty much yeah. We went to the marina in Denpasar, Bali and just asked around if someone was going to AUS. We were really lucky and found a rich Australian and his indonesian crew who was waiting on some part for his huge Catamaran. He was nice enough and willing to take us to Darwin. In exchange my gf cooked and I did lookout at night and we also gave him 10 USD each per day for food and fuel and stuff.
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>>1884161
I didn't visit all of them but they seem very similar in culture but also very different, all great with very friendly welcoming people.

Turkmenistan obviously is very weird. If you don't know what I mean watch a documentary about the Turkmenibashi eegime. Ashgabat is the craziest place I have ever been to in my life. If you ever go there beware of the black market exchange rate. I didn't know and wasted lots of money lol. Not at all tourist friendly but that is to be expected.

Uzbekistan is very well put together. Decent infrastructre. Very Cheap but still good quality of things. People tend to know English more. Amazing Sights all over. Very easy tourist destination

Kirgistan is more rugged and wild, but also less developed. Great for outdoor activities. Seems less Muslim influenced and more Mongol influenced but that could just be my perception.

Xinjiang isn't like the rest obviously because it is in China. The only place that is kinda like the stans is Kashgar, but the Chinese influence is also very strong there. Security is very tight in that Region. I had like 10 road stops on a 100km long trip from the border to Kashgar. Was exhausting to say the least. Swat cars patrol the streets at night. Security Checkpoints and Barbed wire was everywhere in Kashgar. I think western media definitely has an anti China agenda and Americans should just shut up about bad treatment of muslims but the whole experience still left a sour taste in my mouth. The other cities I went in China like Urumqi and Xining where typical Chinese cities with some muslim influences
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Norwegian map autist here, working on the new update. I've fixed the minor things that needed fixing on the map, and decided to double check the subdivisions of the world to avoid another failure like with the last update. A good idea as it turns out, as both Algeria and possibly Angola have changed their subdivisions since last I checked, and that's only countries starting with A. The continent that's by far the least visited, is the one I have to spend the most time keeping up to date, lol.

In other news, New Caledonia rejected independence once again, so they number of countries in the world stays the same for now. The next official independence referendums in the world will be Chuuk State of Micronesia and New Caledonia for the third and last time in 2022. Meanwhile Artsakh may become more independent or disappear completely, support for Scottish independence has increased after Brexit and Covid, and the Western Togoland region of Ghana declared themselves independent last month.
https://www.dw.com/en/ghanas-western-togoland-region-declares-sovereignty/a-55051426
From what I hear it's nothing major, Ghanaians on R*ddit said the separatists don't have much support. Still, might be worth keeping an eye on.
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As soon as I can go to Taiwan without having to do a quarantine I'm gonna be there...
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>>1884383
I love Taiwan. Taiwan numbah one. What inspired you to visit Taiwan?
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>>1884391
My gf is Taiwanese and she had to go back home for a few reasons. She's doing quarantine there at the moment.

Before I met her just over a year ago I already had plans of going to Taiwan, it just kinda worked out even better that I met her. I've lived on 3 continents now and would like to live in Asia for a bit in my life. I traveled around Asia a few times now as you can see by my map, but never been to Taiwan and when I was doing some research on good places to live in Asia, Taiwan was coming up all the time. I'm thinking of going for 6-12 months and doing bullshit jobs and then doing more exploring around the region, I really want to visit Vietnam as well.
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love these threads since I have a new place to add every time I see one
Pretty good for me being 19 I think
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>>1883867
Not sure if you have this problem but when going places I feel guilty because of the higher cost of living when in hotels, most of the places you went seem somewhat expensive so maybe somewhere cheap like South America or SEA would feel less "wrong"
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>>1873977
I'm well traveled for a midwestern burger, but not shit compared to everyone ITT (and /trv/ generally)...... Wish I could fill in some yellow but thanks to the chink plague i'm not going anywhere soon.
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>>1882454
Ohiobro!
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>>1882472
Thomas is that you? We met in Chongqing and you sweat like crazy. The German guy drank too much.
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>>1884373
>Chuuk State of Micronesia
When and why?
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>>1883984
in your own car...or?
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>>1884801
>When
2022, maybe. It has been delayed three times already, some speculate it won't even happen.
>why?
Many reasons: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Chuukese_independence_referendum
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>>1884373
>>1884801
>>1884961
Isn't Micronesia itself heavily dependent on other nations? Seems kinda pointless for a very small part of an already very small nation that depends on foreign intervention to declare independence. If it happens, I guess it would be mostly ceremonial, and not at all practical.
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>>1885144
They are independent but in "free association" with the US, which practically means that they are a US dependency with UN representation. They're just as "independent" as Niue or Cook Islands, just with a seat in the UN. They do have half the population of the FSM though, and if they end up carrying the rest of the country without getting much back, I can understand why some would want independence.
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>>1884406
Maybe the disconnect from having everything paid by the company and having to pay for myself is a cause, but I never cared much about spending money on things I want since I don't have expensive hobbies and I save a decent amount every year. I have thought about it since posting, and I think it may be the "need" to see everything I can before leaving. I think I should try a more relaxed trip with less things to do every day, but that just leaves me feeling like I'm wasting my time. Maybe I just need to get used to traveling and quit the "need to do everything" attitude.
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>>1882472
how much does it cost to travel by bicycle per month on average?
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>>1885573
>how much does travel cost????

great question anon
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>>1885578
I'm asking because I can't really afford long term travel (anything more than a week basically), but I do have a bicycle and decent physical form, so it should cut costs by a lot
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>>1885584
bike travel can be as cheap or expensive as you want it to be. exactly like regular travel.
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>>1885587
I guess that makes sense. I had a test trip planned across 7 European countries for about 2 weeks and the total estimated cost was a bit over my monthly salary, but it included luxuries such as Airbnb and decent meals, plus some train rides. It all went to shit when the covid restrictions came into effect, so I`ll try again next year
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>>1884373
Thank you based NorMapian
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>>1884425
from 937 myself, best part is when I get to leave
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>>1885587
>>1885593
Yeah, like he said, totally depends on you. When I've done my trips it varies a lot how much I've paid. Generally I would say it's cheaper to just go without a bicycle, depending on the country. I've done some trips on a 5-7 € daily budget, which is just food. Usually it's 10-15 for food. If I really really wanted, could probably go from Tallinn to Prague, or maybe Istanbul, at 5€ a day. Wouldn't be fun, but doable. Hoping that nothing breaks from the bike of course. But let's say I wanna spend a few nights in a hotel here and there, eat a bit better, drink a few beers, then some gear replacements, maybe 400-500 minimum is good for a month long trip.
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>>1888452
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>>1873977
When can you really say you've lived somewhere?
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>>1888853
6 months imo
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>>1888853
When one or more of the following apply to you:
>you grew up there
>you studied there
>you worked there
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>>1888853
When you rented an apartment by month instead of a hotel, or if you lived in a place you owned.
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>>1889099
My uncle lives in a different country, and I stayed at his place for two months. I didn't stay at a hotel, but I also didn't pay any rent or mortgage. Does that count for anything?
Hell, I'm not even sure if I can count that experience as traveling. I wasn't even there for sightseeing or cultural experiences. I did everyday normal shit while I was there.
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Currently living in Beirut, imagine not travelling because of Comeme
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>>1889147
I personally don't fear the virus, but the one thing I don't like is how the governments are making it more difficult. There are a good number of countries that will accept me as a tourist, but when I return to my country, I will have to quarantine for two weeks. Now that's bullshit.
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>>1889147
>British
>visited California, Nevada, Florida, and New York
If you're the type of brit who hates Americans, I wouldn't blame you. If I visited those four states and they shaped my impression of Americans, I would hate them too.
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>>1889154
No problem with Americans, the yuppies that travel can be annoying but Americans in America are generally pretty nice
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>>1888452
Kys

>>1888853
You decide. I think that if you stay in a town for an extended period of time, and your stay is not purely travel related, then you can say you've "lived" there. I'd count a month doing volunteer work and renting an apartment as "living", but not a month waiting for a visa while staying in a hostel.
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>>1889309
>a month
Lmao
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>>1889147
>Currently living in Beirut
How is life there now? Were you there during the explosion?
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wish i could color in anything with Yellow, but.... rona and all that
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>>1884423
greetings fellow Ohio man
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>>1889701
The city is coming back to life, new bars and restaurants are opening everyday and corona restrictions are largely ignored. Travel throughout the country is easy and there's no restrictions in that regard.
Now is a good time to come because the currency is completely fucked, make sure to bring dollars
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Been to these nations.
Didnt include the US in the map because theyre pretty irrelevant
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>>1884423
You lived in St. Petersburg? Why, and how was it?
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>>1873977
young traveler here. look forward to a life of travel, going to be going to as many places as i can. ohio rise up.
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>working on the new update
>double check subdivisions of Bosnia and Herzegovina
>it was decided a while back to use second level subdivisions of both the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina, and Republika Srpska
>cantons of the FBH looks fine
>subdivisions of Srpska are wrong because apparently they don't exist
I have no idea what I used as a reference when I drew those borders, because I can't find any map that matches them. Republika Srpska is the first level division, the second level is 64 municipalities, which obviously can't fit on the map. The matter is further complicated, as you can see in pic related, by Brcko District. It's jointly administered by both and cuts Srpska in two parts, and separates Posavina Canton from FBH. This means that there's no way to have all three as single-click subdivisions on the map without stealing a whole lot of pixels from Croatia.

What do you guys suggest? I can keep the cantons and have Srpska as two separate subdivisions, this is easy but doesn't reflect real life. I can find some meme map of Srpska and guess my way to which subdivisions make the most sense, or I can remove Posavina and steal pixels from Brcko to connect Srpska, and just have FBH, Srpska and Brcko on the map. If no one has any suggestions, I'll just think of something. I don't see any other solution unless someone with more in-depth knowlegde can tell me how to divide Republika Srpska. I tried asking in the Balkan general on /int/, and as expected, I got no helpful replies.
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>>1889832
come for the cheap falafel and hezbollah merch, get coronavirus free!!!
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>>1890531
You used the mezoregije.

https://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regije_Republike_Srpske
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>>1890536
>tfw my Hezbollah keychain broke

>>1890531
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bestuurlijke_indeling_van_Bosni%C3%AB_en_Herzegovina
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>>1890573
>>1890574
Based, I knew I could count on you guys. Which map should I use for the update though? Yours are different and the Croatian Wikipedia site has even more. If I understood Google Translate correct, the "mesoregions" used on the Real Traveler map changed in 2015.
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>>1890614
These are the mezoregions since 2015 Small changes.
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>>1890628
Thanks a bunch m8, I'll use that. Small changes are changes nonetheless, and the map must be perfect!
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>>1874379
You lived in Croatia? why?
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>>1890637
i had a house on the sea. It was nice for a while until the wiggers started driving me crazy.
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I’m from Norf Fc land and I’ve only ever been to Makedonia, Costa del sol, Canarias, Limassol and a school ski trip to Austrian alps
Rate
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>>1890536
Oh no not minor cough!
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>>1873977

Gonna meet my fiancee in Istanbul in a month so if anyone who is not a degenerate coomer wants to meet up for coffee that'd be alright.
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>>1890679

A very esoteric collection of places/10.

How was Cyprus?
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>>1891001
Is your fiancee Turkish? How did you meet?
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>>1891003

No, she's Russian and Turkey just happens to be open, would rather do Japan or more Europe but the old ruins and good coffee will be an acceptable substitute.
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>>1891004
How did you meet?
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>>1891008

The fact that you have asked twice leads me to believe you're a coomer and I don't know you from Adam so you could be nonwhite, sorry but the only advice I can give is become a person that a decent woman wants to meet.
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>>1891012
I asked twice because you didn't answer the first time. I'm just curious. I don't want to meet Russian women.
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>>1890966
enjoy your intubation, Dung Pu Pi.
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>>1891293
Enjoy sitting inside for another few months
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>>1891001
go to Antalya i was there early September it was great went cliff diving
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>>1891818
I live right next to the great /out/doors, and the lack of tourists (for what they were) has been most excellent. I have probably not camped as much in years.

Go bitch about soshulizm on facebook, boomer.
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>>1892267
Where's the link between not being a boring faggot and being a boomer?
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>>1874325
i spent a day in doha, should i colour in 2 pixels and leave the rest of qatar blank?
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t travelled once

I'm a poor student, so I figure I'll be able to travel more later in life.
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>>1892317
What the shit happens to you? Why are you in Ekaterinburg now?
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>>1892508
Wrong color I guess, I have studied there for a semester
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>>1886663
I don't blame you. 614 comfy here. No matter where you are it's good to have a radical change of scenery once in a while.

>>1889768
Greetings!

>>1890499
Yeah i studied Russian in college and lived there for a semester back in 2011. It was a very interesting experience to say the least my Russian sucked before going but got a lot better being immersed in it. It's a beautiful city, definitely worth a visit. If you're going to visit make sure it's in the summer because in the colder months it is absolutely miserable. I won't go into detail but just know it's why there's so much alcoholism in Russia. Anyways, the metro in St. Petersburg is great, they have ornate, beautiful, and clean stations like in Moscow. Because the city was built on a swamp the tunnels have to be super deep so its like a solid 3 minute escalator ride to get down to the stations from street level. Pretty cool. Do all the touristy stuff if you go, i.e. the winter palace, peterhof, the aurora, etc. But whatever you do, make sure you hit a banya. If you don't already know it's basically a steam sauna. It's funny, Russians will only do it naked, they're superstitious about wearing clothes in there. You just sweat your ass off, take turns swatting each other down with birch leaves and then do a cold plunge in ice water and come back, rinse and repeat for a few cycles. Wash off with soap and you walk outside feeling better and cleaner than you ever felt in your life. 10/10. But yeah, that being said I would wholeheartedly recommend it for a visit but not for a place to live. Not for any political reasons, just that the average standard of living is a lot lower and 9/10 it means living in a soviet era apartment which are *ahem* "cozy" (small and shitty). Also Russian food is not great. The people are lovely though and that more than makes up for it.

Pic kinda related: me in Moscow bc i dont have the St. Petersburg pics on my phone
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>>1874359
damn thats a lot of russia, what makes you go so far? are you trying to visit every division? also haven't seen many others who have been to Artsakh, what did you do there?
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>>1890409
based af. what were you in libya for and how was it?
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>>1890508
you coloured in east timor bro
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>>1876339
>Only visiting Attica
I mean, contrary to what a lot will say, there are nice parts of Athens, but its still a grimy place overall. I hope you had a good time, but if I had to recommend anywhere in Greece, probably Crete or the Ionian Islands.
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>>1884373
How far off do you think you are?
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>>1892729
Finished the update yesterday actually. Do you guys want me to make a new thread or just post the update in this one?
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>>1892808
Can you make a new thread when this one exceeds the bump limit and close to death?
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>>1892641
>Because the city was built on a swamp the tunnels have to be super deep so its like a solid 3 minute escalator
The reason they're all that deep is because the metros were built as nuclear attack shelters, you numbnuts. It's like this in every Iron Curtain country.

I agree, Russian food was pretty disappointing. But the people were interesting. Sometimes miserable sad fucks, but a good dark sense of humour. They know they live in a police state, although Putinesque brainswashing is also widespread by now. IME, most people weren't really that political at all (or didn't want to talk about it much). It's just something in the background they have little say in.
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>>1893031
SPB's metro is still twice deeper than Moscow's.
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>>1893031
>The reason they're all that deep is because the metros were built as nuclear attack shelters, you numbnuts. It's like this in every Iron Curtain country.
Oh, yeah, that's why 3/4 of Moscow metro is no deeper than 8-10m, and only somwhere in the center of the city (but not everywhere) it runs at 40-60m.

Metros of Novosibirsk, Yekaterinburg, Tashkent, Minsk or Nizhniy Novgorod have no deep stations at all.
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>>1893091
>Metros of Novosibirsk, Yekaterinburg, Tashkent, Minsk or Nizhniy Novgorod have no deep stations at all.
Also Kazan either.
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>>1893094
And Samara
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>>1893091
It costs money to excavate deep (depending on the kind of rock), and you don't need deep shelters everywhere. Geology plays a role, water table, underground rivers, etc. But Soviet Russia + satellites were planning for war from the beginning. I'm not sure why you find this so hard to accept, it's a pretty widely known reason and what Russian themselves will tell you. The depth was often for use as bomb shelters.

>Metros of Novosibirsk, Yekaterinburg, Tashkent, Minsk or Nizhniy Novgorod have no deep stations at all.
Cool, now we know where Stalin didn't mind becoming glowing green human jerky.
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>>1893097
Я и caм мoгy ceбe этo cкaзaть.

>underground rivers
Пpo этo пepвый в coвкe фильм-кaтacтpoфy cняли, бeз шyтoк. ("Пpopыв" пpo пepвый питepcкий paзмыв)
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>>1893119
What website is this? The formatting is so close to my ideal map that I would like to try it for myself.
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>>1892972
That'll probably be almost a month from now, I can try, but I can't guarantee I'll remember it.
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>>1893126
That's fine. Who knows, maybe you or someone else will find more corrections/modifications to make by then.
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>>1893124
My travel map something, should be one of the top google results.
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>>1893127
Okay then. I have gone over all the subdivisions for every country on Wikipedia, so I can't be bothered to look for more mistakes. You guys should, however. I want the map to be perfect, so I'll be happy to be made aware of any error, no matter how small. One of the changes for this update is adjusting literally four pixels so that Basque Country borders France. If you spot anything, just tell me in this thread and I'll fix it for the next update.
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>>1874005
hee makker laten we samen lekker gaan reizen
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Pretty empty , going to Aruba next week, first international solo trip since the people I usually go with are unreliable

Just started traveling 2 years ago and I'm a poor/national parks fag so I'm happy with my progress so far
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>>1893405
I've also been to Florida and Kiribati but I'm mildly retarded so I didn't fill those in
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>>1893405
>first international solo trip since the people I usually go with are unreliable
Good on you man, solo travel is the shit. I'd rather have my teeth pulled without anesthesia than travel with family.

>>1893407
Tell me more about your experience in Kiribati as a "poor" fag. I've actually wanted to visit that country and all the neighboring countries, but it seems expensive.
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>>1893167
If you're open to suggestions, how about a revision note? Something simple, like a piece of text that reads "Version x.xx" on a corner of the map. With so many subtle changes the map goes through, not everyone will know if they have the latest version at first glance. I'm also fairly certain that someone accidentally posted an old template before, which is why I brought it up.

If you don't keep track of revision history, then how about a simpler approach, like a note reading "Last updated on [Date]" somewhere on a corner?
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>>1893542
Very good idea, thanks! I should've thought of that sooner, lol.

I have a general idea of revision history, but nothing written down. After a quick look in the archive it looks something like this:
>1.0
First updated map, posted in July of 2018.
>1.x
All the major and minor changes that were fixed in the first thread and the thread that followed. I posted the whole updated template again every time someone pointed out a mistake, so there were a lot of those.
>2.0
Second major update, posted in September of 2018, where ocean borders in Oceania and the Caribbean were redrawn.
>2.x
All the minor changes to that map.
>3.0
Posted on New Year's Eve 2019 right after the Bougainville referendum.
>3.1
The African Boogaloo update, published a few weeks after 3.0, where I famously forgot to check for changes in Africa and was made aware that literally half of the countries had wrong subdivisions.
>3.1.x
Minor changes published in February.

Did I forget anything? I could (and probably should) go through the archive and write down all the changes made, but without any consistent keywords to search for, it's a lot of work. I'm pretty sure there were some changes made between October 2018 and January 2020 that I don't remember. Anyway, the next update would be 4.0, the New Caledonian update. Even though that referendum failed, it's the reason I checked every subdivision and updated the map. Also thank you for reading my autistic rambling, I know this stuff is of no interest to 95% of people in this thread.
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>>1893797
>I know this stuff is of no interest to 95% of people in this thread.
Hey, perfect opportunity to say this.
I have never travelled outside of my country, I don't have plans to, I don't even browse this board other than this thread every, say, 6 months or so. But I'm a map autist, and my erection can't even begin to describe how much I love seeing your map get updated and stay maintained. How you make sure every subdivision can be filled with only one click in paint, to the point of not leaving even small, irrelevant, unknown-even-to-Wikipedia islands behind, or how you dab on the UN by actually showing unrecognized countries as fucking countries (pro-tip: acting like something doesn't exist does not make it invisible).
Ironically it's also a better source of geopolitical news than anything else I've found on the internet (seriously who the fuck ever talks about Western Togoland, certainly not /int/).
I don't remember how I ended up finding these threads, but I love looking at all the maps Anons post, and I hope your motivation to keep updating the Real Traveler™ map doesn't die out anytime soon.

God bless your autism.
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>>1893923
I'm not Mapanon, but I just wanted to say that I loved this high quality post.
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>>1893923
Thank you very much! It's always fun when people appreciate the work I do. I plan on keeping the map up to date for years to come, so don't worry. I've been looking at maps for fun since I was a kid, I doubt that particular fascination will die out any time soon.
>to the point of not leaving even small, irrelevant, unknown-even-to-Wikipedia islands behind
You'll be happy to know that the next update will include both Cocos Island of Costa Rica and Malpelo of Colombia then :) For the latter I had to actually look it up in a physical atlas, as the island is literally not on Google Maps.
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>>1894304
>For the latter I had to actually look it up in a physical atlas, as the island is literally not on Google Maps.
It is though:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Natural+Malpelo+National+Park/@4.0279349,-81.6298632,34654m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m13!1m7!3m6!1s0x8fc8de0d494f8319:0x57b0ea4a2564746c!2sMalpelo+Island!3b1!8m2!3d4.0061111!4d-81.5936111!3m4!1s0x8fc8dddddf2e2f1f:0x320616c956a08502!8m2!3d4.0043427!4d-81.6091919?hl=en
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>>1894344
Not on map view, which makes it hard to find it when you don't know the name of the island.
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I'm not the map maker, but what would you guys think of adding more categories/colors to fill the map with? Got a couple of ideas.

>Banned
Color could be black, brown, orange, or a darker shade of grey. You would use it to fill countries and/or regions that you *can't* visit for whatever reason. There is a difference between not wanting to go vs. not being allowed to go.
Examples of how it could be used:
>Travelers of Armenian descent can't visit Azerbaijan
>Israeli passport holders can't visit certain muslim countries
>You got turned away at a police/military checkpoint while attempting to drive from one region to another (so that particular region would be colored as "banned," but the rest of the country is fair game)
>You've already visited the country, but you got deported & permabanned due to legal trouble (you'd still color the specific regions that you did visit with the usual dark green)
I fully admit that it may see infrequent usage, but if it does get used, there may be an interesting story behind it.

>Transit
For when you were physically in a certain region, but didn't get to travel in it "properly." I'm thinking the color could be beige; a dull color for a dull experience.
Examples of how it could be used:
>Airport layovers
>Cruise ship docking port
>Passing through via train

Whether you like or dislike my idea, I think it stills fits the spirit of autism.
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desu some is guess work, I don't pretend to know every region's borders.
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>>1895026
>For when you were physically in a certain region, but didn't get to travel in it "properly."
>Cruise ship docking port

I'm not a cruisefag but this definitely counts as having been to a region.
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>>1892717
Yes, I'm aiming at visiting all regions of Russia. Only 10 left to go.
I went to Artsakh during the Caucasus trip because it's a somewhat separate country (though soon it can cease to exist).
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>>1895026
When I first made the map, there wasn't any "lived" category. A lot of people said they wanted one, so I added one. Then a lot of people said they didn't like that, and that there was now too many categories. I guess for every person wanting a new category, there's one who doesn't want one. I'm not going to add more categories, but that shouldn't stop you, just add your own. I've said that since the very first thread I made that people should edit the categories to their own liking. If you've been banned from somewhere or have been driving through a lot of subdivisions, then just add those categories for your own map.

Have you been banned from somewhere though? Because that sounds like quite a story.
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>>1895424
>I'm not going to add more categories, but that shouldn't stop you, just add your own.
>people should edit the categories to their own liking.
Duly noted.

>Have you been banned from somewhere though? Because that sounds like quite a story.
No, unfortunately I have no such stories. You're right about it being interesting, maybe I'll see a thread about it in the future.
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>>1893797
Not an anon you have replied to in the last week or so, but I just want to say that I love you.
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>>1878206
Fellow norwegian here. The only real feedback I have is that using official state boundaries does not necessarily make for the best maps. Is the map made to be as accurate and updated as possible, or for the use of designating areas you have traveled in?

For example in Norway, with the new state borders in Vestland and Finnmark they suddenly include a very large area. I have been to Tromsø, but I have never been in Finnmark. Likewise I have been all over Sognefjorden but never further south. With the new updated map it is not possible to make that distinction. For my own use I have drawn up new borders on the map, to more accurately depict where I've been. Bu maybe this goes against the entire idea of your map project?
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>>1897781
I'm not the map guy nor am I even Norwegian, but when you see someone of the same nationality on the internet, does it ever feel weird communicating with them in English?
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>>1897783
After years of reading, writing and communicating primarily in english I found it incredibly strange when I stumbled upon and started browsing norwegian threads and forums. In conversation I often have to pause and try to internally translate english words and terms into norwegian. When online it feels much more natural to communicate in english. Most norwegians I have met prefer to keep typing english too, maybe it is some cultural trait from 500 years of danish and swedish domination? Or because we consume large amounts of foreign language media on tv and elsewhere? (dubbing only exist for childrens movies)
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>>1897127
Y-you too

>>1897781
>Is the map made to be as accurate and updated as possible, or for the use of designating areas you have traveled in?
Both, really. The map is a map of so-called "first level administrative divisions", i.e. Norwegian counties, American states, Russian oblasts, etc, that I constantly work to keep up-to-date. It's not always perfect, as is evident with the new Norwegian counties (which I hate), but it is non-biased. Those are the official first level administrative divisions of Norway, period. Same with every other country. For some that means coloring in a large area just because one visited a single city, while with others it works better. If you visit London you just color in London, but if you visit Yakutsk in Russia, you color in an area 1/3 the size of Europe. It's not perfect, but it's the best we got. As for making your own adjustments to the map, go ahead. I honestly don't mind, if it makes people use the map more, then I'm happy. It's not "my" map either, it was around for years, I just made it better and have taken it upon myself to keep it updated. People making their own personal edits doesn't bother me at all.

>>1897783
Not really, but I'm used to 4chan and other international forums, and I've also traveled a lot. We understand that just switching to our own language in front of non-Norwegians look weird.
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I realize this is extra-autistic, but can someone explain how islands boxed in by lines work? I think I understand how the solid lines & the dashed lines work, but then I notice that Puerto Rico and some other nearby islands have a different design. Does it actually mean something different, or is it just a design inconsistency? I'm no artist, but I think the same style of dashes could work, if they are even supposed to be the same.
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>>1897783
If you're on an international board it would be rude to switch to another language and exclude others from the conversation. I would gladly read what the Norwegians would have to say to each other about their internal borders.
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Is the Chinese portion of Kashmir notable in any way, either politically or culturally?

>Green = Paki
>Orange = Indian
>Yellow = Chinese (approximate)
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>>1898621
No
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>>1897976
Solid lines are sovereign island nations, dotted lines are dependent territories. Not all island nations have solid lines, there's no real reasoning behind it. Sometimes it's just because it doesn't look good. Some territories that aren't "dependent" as such have dotted lines, mostly because they are remote enough to deserve it. Easter Island is technically a part of Valparaíso region in Chile, but isn't part of it because of its unique nature.

As for Puerto Rico: Design inconsistency, and I have no idea why, lol. Originally they weren't boxed, but I reworked the ocean borders at one point, and I can't remember why I drew the lines in a different way. I can fix it in the next update.

>>1898621
Not politically at least, the map reflects the de facto borders. Chinese Kashmir, also known as Aksai Chin, is just a part of Tibet and Xinjiang.
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>>1893797
How do you create these maps? I was thinking about making some for individual US states I have traveled to, and potentially other countries.
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>>1899408
He didn't crate the map. It's been around on the internet forever. It's from wikipedia iirc. Most notably he improved the map in a way so all individual pixels belonging to the same subdivisions are connected.
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fucking tired of sitting at home bros
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>>1899408
What the other guy said. I just updated the map back in 2018, it was in use long before that, and the image it was based on is older than /trv/. For editing it I simply use MS Paint, drawing new subdivision lines manually with the pencil tool. I have map autism so I consider this fun.
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>>1899451
lmao
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post achievements
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I've added version and date of last update in the upper left corner, pic related. Pretty basic, but design isn't my strong suit, this way it stands out and people see it immediately when they enlarge the images in the thread. Thoughts?

>>1897976
I tried drawing the dotted lines in the Caribbean with larger gaps like they are elsewhere on the map, but it doesn't look good because the islands are so small. I could make all the other ocean borders smaller for consistency, but I suspect that will look bad as well because those territories are so large. I'm thinking of just keeping it as it is now, unless people have objections to that.
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>>1900397
>enter a country illegally
Please do tell.
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>>1902013
Good idea.

>>1902033
Not him but I managed to enter the UK and later Ireland by ferry with an expired ID a couple of years ago.
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>>1902013
Looks good to me.

What happens now with Nagorno Karabakh?
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>>1902104
A peace deal/ceasefire was negotiated today by Russia, and they sent Russian peacekeepers there. It seems to be holding for now. Azerbaijan has already conquered some territory from Karabakh (including their second largest city), and according to that deal, they'll be allowed to keep it. Which, once again, proves that Russia is a bit of a shit ally, because they had promised to intervene on Armenia's side if Armenia proper was attacked. That happened yesterday, when the Azeris shot down a Russian (!) chopper over Armenian territory. Anyway, I'll update the travel map if those changes become permanent, which we won't know for a few days at least.

You can follow the development here: https://caucasus.liveuamap.com/
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>>1902180
>when the Azeris shot down a Russian (!) chopper over Armenian territory.
They immediately apologized and offered a compensation btw
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>>1902180
>Anyway, I'll update the travel map if those changes become permanent, which we won't know for a few days at least.
What will the exact borders look like?
Goddamnit, I hate Turks and Azeris so fucking much.
Anyway, I've been to Artsakh, and I'll never go to Azerbaijan, so I'll keep the old borders for my personal map, as that was the reality as I experienced it.
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>>1902231
>What will the exact borders look like?
Pic related. Azerbaijan gets to keep all the territories they conquered in the war and regains all the Armenian-controlled territories surrounding Nagorno-Karabakh (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/10/world/europe/armenia-azerbaijan-nagorno-karabakh.html). The Lachin corridor, providing a link to Armenia, will be placed under control of Russian peace-keeping forces. Azerbaijan receives permission to use the Southern road on the border with Iran in Armenia proper for a land route to its exclave Nakhchivan and, by extension, Turkey.

It's a humilating defeat.

>Goddamnit, I hate Turks and Azeris so fucking much.
Yes. What a bunch of primitive spergs.
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>>1902270
That does look grim. Can't imagine what it will mean for the native population. They'll either submit or be expelled or worse. Fuck T*rkey and fuck Az*rbaijan.
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>>1902013
>Thoughts?
I think it would stand out better with yellow text rather than red.
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>>1902033
Was in boundary water's in MN
Swam across small creek now illegally in Canada
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>>1902270
They lost all that? jesus fuck.
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>>1873977
never left the United States
I travel by hitch hiking and train hopping

work low paying jobs and save up for my next trip
i'm young and still got a lot of time for more travel

hope to visit Canada soon
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>>1902291
Like this?

Which one's better lads?
https://www.strawpoll.me/21260829
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>>1902766
Dude, I love it. It's perfect.
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>>1902766
Yellow tends to stand out better on dark backgrounds, so it has better visibility.
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>>1902033
Technically visiting Abkhazia and South Ossetia is illegal entry into Georgia
Same with Karabakh (which is no more), Azerbaijan even maintained a blacklist of tourists who went to Karabakh
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>>1902771
>Azerbaijan even maintained a blacklist of tourists who went to Karabakh
How can they do that practically?
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>>1902772
I think they can only realistically ban people who carry evidence of having traveled there. The most obvious one being an "Artsakh" visa in their passport. I believe they've started issuing visas on a separate sheet of paper that can be easily thrown away for this very reason.
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>>1902785
Why would they keep a blacklist if they can just look at your passport?
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>>1902772
>>1902785
Most of the people on the blacklist were either famous people or bloggers who wrote about visiting Karabakh in their personal blogs.
One Russian/Israeli blogger even go arrested in Belarus and extradited to Azerbaijan and spent a year in prison there for visiting Karabakh: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Lapshin
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>>1902798
Wow dude.
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>>1902798
So I guess if you don't have a visa affixed to your passport and you don't document your experience in a way that traces back to you, the Azerbaijani government can't realistically ban or prosecute you.
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>>1898621
it's a bunch of mountains and barren high elevation barren plateaus with a few rivers. No one ever really lived there year round. Yak herders, traders and armies used the mountain passes to access Tibet, that's it.
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>>1902382
Armenia is pretty poor, and I suppose the Azeris assumed the Russkies would help their Armo allies. Unfortunately for them, Russia says it only counts if they cross official Armenian border, and Artsakh is de jure Azeroachijan
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>>1902270
Typical Russian move, only "help" if it means being able to have an ally by the balls. And that is the Russian strategy, leverage, being able to play sides off each other. See: Ukraine, South Ossetia, Armenia.

Now if Armenian politicians do not play ball how the Russians like, the "peacekeepers" will sit back and let roaches do their thing. In the meantime, Azeri gas keeps flowing.

>>1902280
I imagine they will leave. Who wants to live with roaches?
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>>1904263
BECAUSE FUCK PORTO!!!
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Gotta love government paid travel
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Pretty good for early 20's I think.
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>>1902270
Based turks trying to fix border gore one caucasian country at a time
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>>1905224
>armenian genocide 1914-to date
>based
No.
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>>1873977

20 years old anon, feel like I haven't done much travelling for my age
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>>1905948
How the hell can a 20 year old live in 12 different regions?
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>>1905984
It’s where I’ve lived previously. I’m not currently living in 12 places lol
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>>1905989
No, I mean, how can a 20 year old have lived in 12 different regions?
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>>1905989
How does that make constantly moving before you even hit 20 any easier?
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>>1905992
I put places where I lived for 1 year at a time unbroken at least, for example I lived in France the past year because of corona and I wanted an isolated place. Didn’t think it was so unusual, I’m from an fairly wealthy family I guess so maybe it’s not too normal for the plebs
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>>1906051
Also it’s only 10 regions, averaging out that’s two years in each, don’t want to specify more to fix myself lol
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>>1906054
I clearly count 12, but I'll grant you Austria as I also always colour a region completely surrounding a city region.
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>>1905614
t. arm*nian
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>>1906405
The Armenian civilisation is thousands years old and is on the level of the Persians and Greeks.
You are the result of pillaging Mongols who raped native Anatolians who started larping as Turks. Real Turks live east of the Caspian. Azeris are Persians who were forced to speak Turkish quite recently.
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Too many split regions. Like I took a random train to the coast in Vietnam. Fucked if I know where it is on a map. Same as Thailand and Malaysia. I've also done pacific islands. No idea which is which.
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>>1906943
Seriously? You can't read maps? You can't look it up?
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>>1906943
Literally search for the city you were in on Wikipedia and find the subdivision, and compare the map on that page to the Real Traveler map. It's not that difficult. If you unironically can't tell which Pacific island is which on the map, tell me which ones you've been to and I'll point them out for you.
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>>1890636
Norweigianbro you're killing me I gotta update my map every thread
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>>1873977
I guess i'm not a Realtraveler™
we had plans to go to some trpoical country this winter but obviously we're not going anywhere thanks to the china flu
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Sadly I've never travelled in a foreign country before, I'm planning to go literally anywhere when covid stops. But propably in the next Autumn or WInter I will go either to Russia or Iceland and at the Spring or Summer at Italy
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>>1908112
>he used my map
Thanks for the appreciation.
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>>1908062
Lol, sorry! I try to make it easier for you guys by having many changes in one update and also posting just an image with the updates to be pasted onto the map itself, but I understand it can be annoying. Can't do much about it though, the world changes, and so must the map.
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>>1908192
it's a good map, the old french regions are still here which is better imo because the new ones are massive and don't really represent anything, and i like the idea of putting the little flags of every country i've been to under the continent's name. Now i gotta visit more countries so i can put more little flags on the map
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>>1893407
WHY tf did you go to kiribati of all places?! how was it?
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i should really give visiting some other countries a shot

at least vietnam is nice
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>>1873977
https://mapchart.net/world-subdivisions.html
>for anybody that is having trouble filling in the regions.
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>>1908474
why did you go to that southern russian province ? idk if it's sochi or rostov but what happens there ?
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>>1908780
it was sochi

and nothing happens

just drunk people being drunk
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check em
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Looks so small
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>>1909623
not bad but where is the rest?
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>>1909624
Havn't been anywhere else
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>>1908125
This is brutal. Any reason you've never even been to, say, Croatia or Italy Ανών?
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Next up is all of the stans + iran + iraq + turkey + Caucasus
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End this lockdown already so I don't have to waste away all my savings sitting at home jacking off and watching One Piece
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>>1905948
Shut the fuck up at age 20 I was ecstatic being able to only afford 1 week holidays to shit-hole Eastern European countries flying with budget airlines. Stop comparing yourself to other rich kids this is a shit ton of travelling for people your age.
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>>1909658
What the fuck, how many homelands do you have?
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>>1909651
No particular reason, also we are a big family so planning was difficult and we preferred staying here during holidays . I’m going to use my time at the university in it’s fullest to travel as much as I can.
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> Went to nunavut
> Never been to USA

wtf im doing with my life

Yellow mean in 3 years
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>>1909658
>>1909967
What exactly is it about the categories you don't understand? It's always North Americans too. Is it a cultural thing, where you feel your state is more of a "homeland" than your country?
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>>1909967
nigga you're like a 3 hour drive away from new york just go there lmao
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>>1909981
I think they just don't understand how the coloring works. You only quoted recent posts, but this shit goes further back. Not just within this thread, but many, many past threads. I've seen many coloring patterns that were quite "creative," to put it tactfully.
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>>1909693
Guess I used the colours wrong. Dark red is places I've been
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>>1910021
>Home country
>Regions visited within home country
>...
>...
>Countries visited
>Regions visited within these countries

Maybe the Norwegian should rename the categories, as apparently it's too difficult for some people. And maybe put a line between the reds, the blues, the greens and the yellow.
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>>1910027
Bright Red = Your home country. Color the entire country bright red. If I were American, I would color the entire USA bright red.

Dark Red = Regions of your home country that you've visited, but not lived in. These specific parts get colored dark red, while the rest of the country remains bright red. If I were an American who vacationed in Florida, California, and Hawaii, those states would be dark red, while the rest of the USA remains bright red.

Bright Blue = Regions you've previously lived in, regardless of your country. If you've stayed there for a considerable amount of time for non-touristic reasons, it's bright blue. You grew up in Michigan, but later moved? Blue. You went to high school in Colorado? Blue. You went to college in Texas? Blue. You studied in Queensland, Australia for a few semesters? Blue. You taught English in Guangdong, China for a few years? Blue. Your employer sent you to Dubai, UAE for contract work? Blue.

Dark Blue = The region you currently live in. It's nearly impossible to fuck this up.

Light Green = Countries you've visited. If you've visited Italy, then you color the entire country light green.

Dark Green = Regions of the countries you've visited. If you've only visited Rome and Naples, then you would color the Lazio and Campania regions dark green, while the rest of Italy remains light green.

Yellow = Where you want to go next. This should be hard to fuck up.
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>>1910055
I'm all for it, seeing as it happens too damn often.
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>>1910063
Thanks anon. I fixed it just for you.
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>>1873977
I had plans to go to the yellow part this year.
I now plan to do it in 2021, let's hope
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>>1910064
Does this look good? I didn't put a line, but increased the space between the four main colors.

>>1910545
Fingers crossed bro. Where in Norway do you want to go?
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>>1910599
Looks good, but I'd like to add that the two shades of blue are too similar.
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>>1910622
Are they so similar that I should change them? What would be a good color then? I'm not very good at that, I just use Paint, lol.
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>>1910653
Different anon here. I personally think the blues don't need to be changed at all. For mapping purposes, I think they're distinct enough. Not only that, but they're both uncommonly used colors, so I don't think it would make a huge difference in the grand scheme of things. Realistically, you're going to use the darker blue ("Live now") only once on the map. The brighter blue ("Have lived before") is going to see very few uses itself; it may be more than one, but it's still going to be a drop in the bucket. Even if you move a lot, it's still going to be no more than a double-digit quantity of regions. The map has thousands.

The only time I could see the two shades of blue blending with each other (where >>1910622's concerns are valid) would be if you happen to use them on smaller adjacent regions, especially if they are enclaves/exclaves of each other. But these regions are already difficult to see due to their small size, so I don't think it's a big concern.
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>>1910599
This is just me being a nitpicking faggot, but I would change "Going soon" to "Plan to visit" instead. "Soon" implies I'm going to visit that place in the very near future, and maybe that's how it's meant to be used, but I personally don't mind sharing my long-term travel plans (and I don't think other anons mind, either).





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