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>Might as fucking well call this place the Iron Factory general at this point.
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>>9954013
Absolutely based, OP.
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>>9954013
Fans Hobby General here for you.
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>>9954068
And people are actually disliking this, why? It looks fucking great.
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Civil Warrior General for contrast
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>>9954071
I haven't personally seen contrary opinions on Double Agent himself, unlike ones leveraged towards their Unicron Trilogy offerings.
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Did somebody say Planet X General?
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>>9954075
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>>9954085
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7xvVfU4agQ
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>>9954085
Planet X Genesis*
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>>9954075
I really wish someone would attempt wfc Prime. I liked war within but that battering ram Prime needs some love like the fist on wheels foc version did.
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>>9954071
Clouder is a Major, not a general!!
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>>9954085
FOC Shockwave is so cute
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>>9954013
Based OP for saying the truth.
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>>9954083
I want it, how much?
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>>9954319
I don't think that they're officially soliciting sales for him just yet, but I'm going to throw out my own mental ballpark of $150-180.
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>>9954330
I'll actually revise down to $120-140, comparing to their other figures.
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>>9954085
What a distinguished young man.
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>>9954357
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>>9954360
Some slice 'n' dice.
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>>9954365
Combined.
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>>9954368
I had an orange bladed sword with a light bulb in the hilt as a kid that was generically close to the Dinobot swords, so I can dig them adapting them like this.
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>>9954377
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>>9954378
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Fansproject General standing by.
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>>9954382
Is he pooping?
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>>9954805
Crowning.
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>>9954013
> *Jiyi Co. General
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>>9954926
Funny that they removed the G1 style head
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>>9954003
That isn't plastic vs plastic mismatch though. You can clearly see what is paint and what is plastic.
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>>9954926
>>9954931
Something about these guys looks really off and terrible to me. They have all this extra detail and roundness to them and almost like they want to be Bumblebee movie style yet they still feel like they are constrained to body proportions and stiff sensibilities. They're missing that dynamism in the physical product that I'm sure originally existed in the design sketches. Also makes them look like they won't really belong in any collection and will stand out against whatever else you try to put them with.
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>>9954943
I have slingshot and I think he's great. He's realistic enough to fit in with bayverse Mps like black apple prime but still stylized enough to look good with more unique designs like Nicee. It's like they took all the good design sensibilities of the Bumblebee movie but got rid of the bizarre proportions they had
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>>9954943
I think you are wrong and this aesthetic is great
maybe you don't like the panel lines
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Next up in the Toyeasy warship series.
https://weibo.com/5621159376/LEWvliTQ6
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>>9955117
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>>9955119
And something for the kids?
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The KO Nicee repaints are out it seems
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/7955422879
The OP says it's not worth the price.
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>>9954694
I still have a soft spot for fansproject stuff. Wanting to get their menasor set but below $250.
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>>9955731
Of course the two new molds are not worth USD100 considering the previews ko of the same mold by the same company was only USD75 (ShowZ prices).
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>>9955731
why were they so expensive?
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>>9956340
Coomer tax.
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>>9955914
I'd be very glad to have them back. There's no chunky CHUG scale companies anymore.
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Why don't we see anyone trying to do stuff like this, oc Robots, hot wheels or other iconic vehicles, altered just enough to not be identical?
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>>9957105
Because that doesn't sell as well as another cartoon Prime.
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>>9957106

Ah, right, capitalism, the bane of good stuff.


Guess it'll always be cartoon big shots, (Megatron, prime, grimlock, shockwave, Magnus, springer, Arcee and devastator) and the occasional bonus (bee, wheeljack, dinobots, beast megatron, cyclonus, Galvatron, hot rod) because nobody could even like or want alternatives.
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>>9957184
Correct.
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>>9957105
Third parties are too risk averse to try anything beyond what has been proven to sell. See last threads discussion on why creative designs are dead
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>>9957235
They can design whatever bullshit they want after they make a fucking good Legends Devy that doesn't require cheating. And a Grimlock that doesn't need leg add ons.
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>>9957235
>What is the relation between Scifigure industry and Trojan horse studio because they both have Spino designs?
>When will factories open up enough for Trojan to begin production?
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>>9957235
>Bludgeon
>No skeleton samurai motif
>Not even either of the color palettes he's known for.
Hard pass.
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>>9957105
TFA OCs always miss the mark for me because the fans designing then are trying way to hard to make them stand out to the point of over designing then like this. Strong silhouettes are the backbone of a good TFA design with at most two design gimmicks. Oilslick comes to mind as a particularly successful instance if the type of design this person was going for and he works because he doesn't go overboard like this did.
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>>9957253
No relation between Trojan and Scifigure other than both commissioning the same freelance artist. They operate out of different provinces and the Trojan people not being able to travel due to lockdowns was their main reason(excuse) for the delays.

>>9957105
There's not much reason to make OCs and call it a "Transformer" and risk infringing on IPs.
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>>9957291
Even within Mainland China, Hasbro has gotten really anal about IP enforcement. Meanwhile other companies are happily licensing transforming 3P figures
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>>9957295
Including their military. There's like 3~4 companies with PLA licensed vehicles, in every price range.
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>>9957268

Maybe they got Bludgeon mixed up with Brawl? A lot of these Tank 'Cons kind of merge into one for me.
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>>9957270
The main problem for me with TFA OCs is that they nail the look, but they don't realise that what made TFA designs so strong is that they managed to make the cartoon designs and the toy designs both homogenous. Most of the OCs I see have no real way to transform, they just totally actually transform trust me guys see here's the altmode!
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monkey car.
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>>9957490
I wouldn't necessarily say they were 1:1 on the toys, and if I recall, some of the toys did cheat or have to fudge things because the stylized animated designs are largely physically impossible HOWEVER you are correct in that the designs at least took some sense of physicality into account and you could still clearly identify where parts of the robot were meant to form from. As you said, >>9957105 has none of that physicality and it makes no sense where some of that bot mode is coming from. Where are the exhaust pipes on the arms coming from when the ones on the neck are clearly from the hood? Or the coat skirt? And why did the artist bother to give her an engine block head yet not show the engine block in the alt mode? That almost seems like a waste honestly, since garish hot rods commonly do rock their engine dicks out in the open and it's part of what makes them fun.
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>>9957291
spino says that they are still in contact with him for licencing his designs so clearly there is still something going on
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>>9957344
I sort of get that but Bludgeon is pretty fucking iconic and tends to stand out by virtue of his Pretender status.
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>>9957490
DESU that's a major issue with 99.99% of TF OCs, they just slap a car radiator or a cockpit on their chest and call it a day.

the only TF artist I've seen put thought into how their designs actually work is spino
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>>9957105
because asians have better sense than to make deviant art puke
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>>9957882
what you posted is cringe and ugly, is this a man? a man bot?
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>>9957502
munk not trunky
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Transart Megatron is a big boy. Had to add a bit of silver chrome and mascara but he’s the best release they’ve done yet. His sculpt looks damn near perfect, without the oddness of Cheetor and Primal where hey seemed a little off.
Eagerly anticipating Rampage and Tarantulas.
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>>9957869
It's obviously based on the hot wheels boneshaker car and I think, judging by coloring, the lab coat thing is the roof of the car? It looks like it's supposed to be fabric where it's cream colored.

The exhaust pipes do kinda jump from behind the skull/engine area to the blue panels, unless the panels are supposed to be on the sides of the hood.
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>>9957894
You know it's supposed to be a female by that reaction.
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>>9958684
How's the plastic quality? I hear it's a little subpar.
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>>9955731
Fuck I bought her and Make Toys God Ginrai for
$85 each (w/o shipping) less than 2 hours ago... I know the price for her is a steal but it's impossible to got her for less than that price...
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>>9958965
Seems solid to me, the issues seem to be with the wheel stem and hinge at the dino head. I don't want to test out the resistance in feat of it breaking, but nothing feels flimsy yet.
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This seems like the right place to ask this - I finally just got my Big Firebird Mocha/Mooka. As soon as I took her out of the box, I tried transforming her - only to find that the piece that's supposed to attach to her spoiler and canopy (the V shaped piece circled in pic related) seemingly doesn't exist. I've gone through all of her packaging repeatedly and still can't find the thing, and there doesn't even seem to be a slot for it in any of the plastic trays that contained the other parts. Am I crazy, or does this thing just not exist? Does it come attached to another piece that I'm overlooking?
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>>9958684
Man, he is pretty.
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>>9959218
Did you look for any plastic baggies in the box or taped to the underside plastic trays?
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>>9959296
Yes and yes. Mine comes with a little baggie that I'm assuming is a preorder bonus - two bits for her swords to slot into plus a handle to old them together as a double-bladed staff thing. But the missing bit isn't there - according to the instructions, it should have already been attached to her fender - but the fender comes in a specifically shaped slot i a plastic tray that would not fit the piece. It's not attached to the big pink bits, either.
While I can transform her into car mode most of the way, her ass hangs out the back, and there's nowhere to attach the spoiler. Since this same piece also makes up the core of her 'blaster' weapon, I can't make that for her, either. No sign of it in her box or the box she was shipped in, either. It sucks - I spent almost a year waiting for her, and she came missing a rather crucial piece. Not sure who to contact about a replacement, either, but I'm not dropping that chunk of cash for a second one.
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>>9959350
Usually you can ask for replacement parts through your seller, provided they aren't some kind of scalper/reseller/dropshipper.
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>>9959361
I got her off of BBTS. Do they normally handle that kind of thing, or should I be trying to contact Big Firebird themselves?
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>>9959380
BBTS.
They should send you a part considering that the package lacked it.
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>>9959385
I'll try asking them, then. Thank you - this is the first time I've ever received an item missing parts from them - they're usually pretty good, aside for the long wait.
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>>9959380
Yeah contact BBTS. Contacting the 3P's after-sales directly usually only works if you're within Mainland China, aside from the few 3Ps with HK-based distro (FH, MMC)
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Found Acoustic Wave for less than retail with the tapes. I'm really impressed that I even purchased the 3dlabs chest piece on the way.
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>>9959438
I skipped out but fucking hell I wish I didn't.
I was hoping that Deformation Space would make a Soundwave next but they haven't done since.
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>>9959438
Can you take pics with the toy parts?
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>>9959462
Maybe later friend I just prefer this style at the moment and boxed up the box right now.

>>9959459
I think he's available at some places at the moment still. I'd snatch him up before the price skyrockets like everything else.
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>>9959438
>>9959497
I swapped out for the two knee parts and the shoulder fronts, just to give a bit of something to him.
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>>9959392
>this is the first time I've ever received an item missing parts from them - they're usually pretty good
Not really anything to do with the retailer and everything to do with the manufacturer. It's not like the retailers are the ones paving the toy and its accessories into the box. That's all BFB's factory workers. That being said, the retailer is usually the one you contact in such cases as missing parts as they have the direct line of contact to the manufacturers to get replacement parts for you. The real test of the retailer is if they're willing to do that for you or if they tell you to deal with the manufacturer yourself.
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Here's your coomer Windblade
https://weibo.com/7126931509/LEuyypcqs
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>>9958684
Looks good. The OG is so hard to top though. He's cartoony AND mean.
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H48 vs MP-51
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>>9960664
In what fucking gods name was Takara thinking with those saggy tits and face?
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>>9960672
Honestly looks like a lot of modern big tit fetish coom art.
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Update on the Mocha with the missing part (>>9959218)
BBTS was unable to get me a replacement piece, but instead refunded me the full value (including shipping) of her as a store credit, and suggested I apply it towards a whole new one. So, with any luck, I'll have a Mocha that can transform as intended, and now a second one that can't transform but can instead be left in her alternate robot configuration (bunny ears , tail, and silver hair) with the kibble detached. I would have settled for just the replacement part, but this is nice, too. Thanks again to the people who suggested going to them for the part!
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>>9960672
It basically had to be that way in order to make Nightbird.
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>>9960664
That particular angle is hiding it a bit, but NA continues to have leg problems, this time with a nice peg right there on the inside.
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>>9960719
So they couldn't retool their mold for a star character because they wanted to focus on the offshoot?
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>>9959715
Wrong thread buddy
>>9960719
That would make sense if the chest was reused, but the chests of Nightbird is a completely new mold. It's just a major oversight of Takara because it's a retarded company
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>>9960724
Eh I'll live with it.
That is until Magic Square shows theirs and then I act like I've never bought a NA product in my life and then proclaim that anyone who ever liked this Arcee is a NA shill.
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>>9960724
Oh I'll peg her on the inside, alright.
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>>9960724
I thought it looked fine then I saw this pic.
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>>9960805
Doesn't that fold in for robot mode?
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>>9960672
I'm not sure what people's issues with the face are, but yeah that chestplate is baffling, man
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It's annoying how they painted this whole face in white instead of properly continuing the band from the side. Very offputting.
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>>9960820
No. It folds back, but it doesn't sit flush. Weirdly, this tab doesn't even seem all that necessary for the transformation. The legs get held together by the backpack in vehicle mode, so you probably wouldn't lose that much by removing the unsightly leg tab.
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>>9960724
>>9960805
You're seriously gonna bitch and moan over something THAT minuscule on a fucking 3 inch tall toy? I get that you think the NewLegs joke is funny but this is a fucking stretch.
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>>9960664
I want to see the repaints (this is a photoshop)
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>>9960927
Nah dude this is an actual example of over-engineering for a toy that has a rather lack-luster alt-mode. Newage actually put more effort into making the thing look unsightly than not.
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>>9960716
ummm sweatie don't you know that BBTS is a scam site???

seriously though their customer service is really good. Glad it got settled.
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>>9960664
Takara has the nicer legs
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>>9960927
It's fair criticism when the correct solution is so blatantly fucking obvious. Just have the fold-out peg go up and down the leg, not across it. so you can actually have the thing sit flush and not jutting out the back like a weird growth. I cant wait for NA to include the fixed version of the legs in a completely unrelated figure 6 months from now.
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>>9961241
>unrelated figure
It's going to be included in an Elita-1 repaint they'll probably show off next Weds and will be boxed and shipped the week after that, knowing NA.
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>>9961185
The Takara on is horny as fuck as a sculpt, maybe even more than BFB. You don't sculpt that sort of low hanging boob sag unless you're horny as fuck whole designing it.
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Opened up the DLC cassettes and they're all great compared to the MP counterparts which felt real fragile.

Have they announced Buzz Off or Ratbat at all?
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>>9961432
I'm expecting a Soundblaster or whatever the fuck he's called to carry the last two tapes.
Hell they might just throw in that shitty little drone that went into a crystal pit with a second cassette tape set just so they can keep out Ratbat from Soundblaster.
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>Tra Gen Legacy EV Core Grimlock
>EAN: 5010996120540

Hasbro is throwing their hats into the small size dinobot fight too
Third Parties better start shakin' in their boots
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Is the Magic Square Optimus trailer compatible with the New Age one?
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>>9961538
Jokes on them because Legends scaled Dinobots are Deluxe-sized!
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>>9960927
Yeah I agree it's too nit-picky. Maybe it reminds them of some giant square wart on their girlfriend's thigh.
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>>9960927
>>9962067
It's pretty retarded a random anon in this thread fixed the issue in seconds, but a company couldn't. It's weird how you motherfuckers just accept sub par product.
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>>9962070
Stay mad. I will buy the Arcee and lick her thigh tab.
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>>9961432
>DLC
Retard
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What was the issue with the shoulder armor?
https://weibo.com/2269679042/LFrRZobrn
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>>9961000
>Choose your fighter
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A normal looking Legends Grimlock.
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/7946402241
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>>9962313
I don't have him, but things like this were the issue.
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H48N Ninja DICKEY
https://weibo.com/6476829781/LFu2T44Sa
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H48G Pocahontas
https://weibo.com/6476829781/LFu2dpbpY
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>>9962327
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>>9962488
Why did they bother making the shoulders out of diecast originally anyway? What was the point?
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>>9962548
Which one is coming with replacement leg for Arcee?
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>>9958684
Shame about his missing paint apps/etc. I ended up trying to put gunmetal on his eyebrows with a Gundam marker and fucked up his paint job pretty bad. Ended up stripping it. I also hate his eyes. Here is a WIP of what I did. Took a Gundam marker to the chest eyes so they stood out (they're matte red in the show weirdly), and I painted over his eyes with a metallic pink Gundam marker. I'm not using exclusively Gundam markers, but I'm waiting for some supplies.

I have even debated using a 3D printer to print off the chrome pieces missing from the shoulders and the calves and just gluing them on. Wouldn't be too hard. Also could get a Cricut thinger and print out some decals to stick on there as well.

Still not 100% sure I wanna paint in pupils. The lights on this guy are atrocious though. Try taking a pic of the face with the eyes on. It's so bad. Your camera kills itself.
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>>9962705
You think he's still worth the money? He looks great and I just purchased him off a seller recently.
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>>9962738
Yeah definitely. Especially since you won't find the original figure. This is pricey but it's worth it.
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That was fast.

https://youtu.be/nfd9zM-u4Wc
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I didn't want to make a whole thread for this. I'm trying to make a whole collection of the original 13 primes. Do any of you guys have recommendations for who I can get to fill out their ranks

So far I have

>Vector Prime: Cybertron Vector Prime
>The 13th: Transformers Prime Optimus Prime
>Solus Prime: MMC Salvia Prominon
>Megatronus Prime: A Third Party Dreamwave Fallen
>Prima: MMC Seraphicus Prominon

I'm straining to fill out the rest
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>>9963013
Personally, I use Universe 1 Razorclaw as Onyx Prime. Energon Alpha Q might be a decent Quintus. Some version of AoE Hound could be Alchemist.
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>>9963017
D-DID SOMEONE SAY SALVIA?!?
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>>9962691
All of them. Each rerelease will have one part of the replacement leg.
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>>9963157
>Build-a-figure
Interesting.
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>>9962705
Why not just paint the shoulder/calve pieces black and use some of that chrome polish powder, followed by a clear topcoat? printing off new chromed pieces to glue on them seems like it would look silly with the added thickness on top of them. Sure, doing anything directly on the figure itself runs the risk of ruining it if you mess up the application but you can always practice/experiment with the chrome polish on some junk plastic first and then apply it to the figure itself once you have it down.
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>>9962313
>shoulders made out of diecast
>fully painted
>in altmode the shoulders are very close together with no sort of plastic to protect them
>people are either getting chipped shoulders right out the box or chipping them while transforming him
I was super lucky mine were fine. Just had trouble getting the weapons to peg into the hands.
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Is there a G1 Starscream in scale with CHUG voyagers? About 6.5-7'' in height?
I was fine with my Earthrise one but only because it's the best Starscream at that size that I know of at the moment.
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>>9963269
CHUG is pretty much entirely dead in 3P's. Everything is MP or Legends more or less, because that is what is most profitable for them in terms of plastic to customer cost ratio.

Or in other words, CHUG sized stuff costs would probably drive people away because it'd be close to MP in price but not scale right with most things, or way more than Legends in price and also not scale.
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>>9963269
>CHUG
>3P
Sorry anon its either legends or MP
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>>9963239

Too much work and I have no idea what I'm doing. Plus on the show it's not flat with the figure...
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>>9962705
>>9963284
Are you the same guy who posted about his paint fuck up on TFW? The damages looked pretty bad but now it looks absolutely fine, congrats.

Also would you mind posting pics of the show showing those missing parts please? I don't see what you're talking about.
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Still worried about this guy long term with the wheels, by man, he’s in the dining for my TotY already.
>>9962842
The metals version has been popular up for relatively cheap on Amanda lately. That said I like the colors on this one more. The metals copper areas are too reddish, the original too gold, this one feels just right in regards to the show.
>>9962691
Oh lol I drew that years ago, fun to see it pop up again
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>>9963129
Yeah, Salvia. She's a good figure. though I could never Transformer her properly.
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>>9957882
Damn she looks cool.
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More repaints pleaze. I'm ok with any company so long as they are optimus and mp scale:
Pink (valentines day edition)
Lebron
Camo convoy
Christmas edition
Anything vaguely memeable
Pikachu prime (for upcoming chris-chan trial)
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>>9963272
Man, that's a pity.
Masterpiece is just too big for me, and more often than not doesn't look like I'd want it to, and legends is too small and also doesn't look like I'd want it to either.
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>>9963337
Hahaha yeah, that was 100% me panicking.

Basically the missing parts are twofold. The pinkish chrome parts on the bot shoulders/dino chest and the legs.

For some reason much harder to see it on the legs in this frame of the T Rex but it's definitely there. As you can see it's a slightly different shade of purple/pink here. I know I'm being autistic here but it's crazy to me they left them out completely. It breaks up the design and makes it look less flat. Honestly I fully believe they intended to add them because they left those parts flat on the toy we got and usually even if they forget a detail painted, they usually look accurate to the shape. In these pics you can see they're both recessed(is that the right word?) off of the model.
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>>9964469
Good eye, I never noticed them, I thought these parts were supposed to be copper.
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>>9964546
Yeah. It was hard to find decent quality pics too. I also am debating painting in all that dark detail in his little VTOL areas as well. I think they would be nice touches. If I do that, I doubt I'll top coat them since I will not even be touching them. After the fiasco of the bleeding paint head I am forcing myself to learn how to actually do all this shit. I'll take it as a learning experience.
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>5options for springer
>1 really old sideswipe

Moviefags were always the problem, with legends fans jumping for second.

You know, because legend fans can't even be good at being the worst.
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>>9962689
Fucking retarded diecast fanatics who consider that a major selling point.
Never worth it. Adds too much weight, unbalances a figure, paint chips, fuck that.
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>>9962449
can you actually remove the samurai armor from Boohmaru, or is this a custom?
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>>9964582
The only brand with enough power where people would want to change out Takara with 3P is Fanstoys. Badcube basically killed themselves with that Sideswipe release because people are fine enough with the Takara.
Pointing fingers at the movie or another aspect of 3P is retarded when it was always a brand loyalty thing where people will only be spitroasted by Takara and FT.
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>>9964606
The takara literally came out after mp-10

It doesn't even fit together correctly
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>>9964611
Yeah and like I said people only want Takara or FT cock in their mouths.
Majority of people don't actually buy these fucking toys for quality or sculpt or whatever the fuck they spout, they buy because brand loyalty.
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>>9964623
Deformation space disproves this
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>>9964637
You mean the company that went belly up and slashed prices?Don't get me wrong, I know there's external circumstances to their going out of business, but the fact that them shutting down wasn't immediately met with prices going up(though I expect they will within the next few months) is a sign people hesitated on switching out for them despite having the best seekers out of any option so far.
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>>9964668
Every mp collector owns ds01

You cannot fool me

Also fans toys is garbage. Too much paint. I picked up my seasprays the other day to find the feet chipping
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>>9964711
Anon, what an MP collector is fragmented into several groups years ago. There's people who were satisfied with the first version of the 84/85 cast they got and don't want to update, or are still on the MP-11s. Others are fine with the maketoys. Ultimately anytime a set of Seekers comes out it s abig time/space/money sink and it becomes harder to convince people to upgrade.
Hell, one of the things that made people get the DS in the first place was the prices being cut.
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>>9964711
>Every mp collector owns ds01
Yeah after everyone bought it for like $70 usd.
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>>9964711
Not me, TE-OP Leader all the way.
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>>9964711
>Also fans toys is garbage. Too much paint.
>defends deformation space

You're in for a rude awakening in a few months to a year.
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>>9964711
I stuck with Maketoys Meteor because I'm not a boomer who copes with liking obese seekers
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>>9964766
Yes i agree ds01 has too much paint.

I don't see why you'd think thats controversial.

The paint thing is only because you're all bobby skullface worshippers, who only take out their MP's once every 5 years, whereas i play with them whenever i get home.

But please own me more. Tell me how bad paint is.
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>>9964775
And that's exactly why some people are sticking to Maketoys, because they didn't cover them in paint and make for good posable toys without worrying about the paint chipping down the road.
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>>9964795
Well uhh you see, we like have to stay with uhhh like the old molds.

Pay no attention to every company making an arcee.
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>>9964893
Anon all the Arcee molds get bashed on.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VYIT4jf8gE
>Mommy!
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>>9965017
I still think Azalea holds up well—and it's my favorite MP-scale Arcee when it comes to kibble management—but I'm finally ready to admit that the lower legs are unsightly
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Is anyone else sick of different versions of the same shit? There are much more interesting characters so I don't understand what is fueling the market of the repetitious bullshit. I know I'm probably in the minority but I would love to see more of the bayverse designs explored. Especially the dread trio.
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>>9965169
I would be happy if I never saw any bayshit again for as long as I live. Those fucking hideous designs deserve to be sent to the scrapheap.
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>>9965169
>Is anyone else sick of different versions of the same shit?
No, because I'm still waiting for good versions of some of these things. NA put out a halfassed half legged Grimlock, whoop de fucking doo. IF had an old non-dino Grimlock, and now a super stylized one, not what I want either.

>>9965204
Based and correct pilled.
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>>9965255
lol ok. I can understand the bayverse design hate. I just prefer the more alien/creature look of the decepticons. As far as the chunk reiterations; it seems like we get 2-3 primes a year. This happens a lot with other IP's and all I can think of is fans in this hobby have got to be pretty damn stupid buying the same thing over and over and over and over.....
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>>9965169
I still just want a mtmte Whirl...and maybe a new Lugnut if I can be greedy.
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>>9965380
mtmte was dog shit and idw deserved to go bankrupt
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>>9965389
Hi Athena.
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>>9965169
>Is anyone else sick of different versions of the same shit?
I'd like to see more creativity, seems like the chinese companies that make chinese propaganda vehicles are less reliant on transformers as a reference material.
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>>9965389
you will never be a successful 3rd party designer
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>>9965393
>>9965397
imagine liking idw, imagine crying like tjomega did when the license was pulled from a bankrupt company, go woke go broke
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>>9965400
>imagine crying like tjomega did
Like you did over on tfw?
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>>9965400
Can you make a trip so I can filter you. You're not exactly anonymous here.
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>>9965413
Stick your head in the ground like an ostrich.
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>>9965417
That's what I'm trying to do but I'm not seeing any trips being made.
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>>9965420
Boards should implement thread based IDs so tards can't samefag as easily, and you should be able to mute IDs that are being mongs.
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>>9965429
I think things would improve rapidly if they did, which means they absolutely won't.
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>>9964893
I mean, we shouldn't necessarily, but diminishing returns are a thing. I own the DS Seekers, but I also owned Maketoys, the Takara MP-11s, and the original set of US MPs. It wasn't pleasant having to box them up, sell them off, or put them in storage. I can imagine doing this for other characters is tiring. The plethora of molds for the same character tends to happen either in direct competition, or years down the line when people missed out on the original or there's demand for a new one/the new one does something truly different.

Unfortunately, as good as DS were they happened at the same time as Takara's, which both came in a saturated market.
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>>9966141
TT's new seekers also getting rapidly KO'ed didn't help things either
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>>9965400
>tjomega
do people here actually watch him?
I find the way he talks is insufferable
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>>9965429
Some boards do have that.
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>>9965429
But then how would political trolls ruin every single board?
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>>9965396
>>9965169
It's the same discussion we had above about OCs. Hasbro enforcing their IP means that if you're making legally grey TFs, you either go all in on the most popular characters and make the big$, OR disassociate from Transformers® altogether so there's no risk of litigation.
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>>9966461
Only dumb fucking Americans çare about endless g1 crap and they are a minority. Third parties should go more original beast box has proven they can make animal boxes of their own design and not need to copy monster Hunter beasts.
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>>9965429
Found the anon that browses Pol. Why do you want your shitty IDs here? Go back already nazi.
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>>9965429
You're aware that you can check that on any board by using your browser's Inspect Element function, right? 4chan already caches all of that data, even if it only publicly displays it on certain boards.
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>>9966463
>Only dumb fucking Americans çare about endless g1 crap and they are a minority
Yes. They are so in the minority and that's why half the 3p market is dedicated to pleasing them. Totally how that works.
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If NewAge is NewLegs then Dr Wu is a plastic surgeon
https://weibo.com/2352651453/LFKy32zLl
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>>9966588
exactly, beast box does so much better than every 3p company they even see official colleboration with their unique designs unlike bootleggers
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>>9966463
What the fuck are you on about.
The 3rd party market is largely powered by Chinese purchases you dumb fuck.
They literally love g1 shit.
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>>9965169
>Is anyone else sick of different versions of the same shit?
On one hand yes, but on the other it gives you a good amount of variety to pick from. Like I like the look of MS Optimus 2.0 but really dig the toy look on NA's Prime in piss magnus, so I got both and have two similar figures that are different enough that I don't feel bad doubling up.

It's all about picking and choosing what you like, makes everything much more enjoyable than being rabidly brand loyal.
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>>9966710
I wish there was a better range of Gears to choose from.
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>>9966588
americans actually are a minority of 3p buyers, those are mostly the chinese
the reason 3p has a lot of focus on g1 is because the chinese are massive fans of g1
they got introduced to g1 much later than us to the point that their gen x ers and millennials both watched g1 at around the same time, and now even their zoomers are getting in on it as some sort of equivalent of western kids born after 2000 discovering the first gundam
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These threads are so quiet now.
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>>9967105
Well when my Cang Kinglion comes in at some point today I'll post some shots for you then.

Which I'm really trying to wrap my head around because it's both "out for delivery" at the same time as not listed for Saturday delivery.
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True Suffering Mode

Being an MP car robot fan

Still no jazz or prowl in modern style

We don't even have sunstreaker or hound
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>>9967105
I'm just waiting for the Magic Square Mirage preview later today.
I'm primarily engaged with MS stuff but they've gone through every announcement now except for Jetfire so there's literally nothing for me.
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>>9967119
The only reward you get for liking season 1 autobot cars is 4 optimus primes, and 1 mirage.

Otherwise you have to back collect from centuries ago

There is literally no autobot car from series 1 released within the past two years. Prove me wrong

Minibots don't count
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>>9967119
I still say Takara could've avoided this headache if they just made option parts for the Car MPs to give them animation accuracy. Would've been more expensive, but would've held up longer term. The cartoon look parts wouldn't be transformable, but reworking the transformations to get the fake animation accurate parts is already inaccurate.
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>>9967133
Whats controversial about making new molds for prehistoric MP's?

They did it with starscream. We got 4 springers.

We got 4 grapple/inferno proving people want autobots.
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>>9967138
>We got 4 grapple/inferno proving people want autobots.

That's exactly why the market got tapped dry. Those Infernos/grapples were rotting on retailer sites for years. The one that sold well was the Takara one. XTB held back some of there planned releases like Inferno and their springer because the market was getting so over saturated they pulled out and waited until the others came out to make improvements. There'll probably start being some more updates in the next 5 years, but mostly through XTb and FT I think. both of them undercut smaller companies by revealing their take and shrunk the market. (See Transform and roll out, Transform element, bad cube, and even DX9 to an extent)
Most MP collectors are 35-45+,8 years doesn't feel that long for them, they aren't looking to buy the same characters over and over.\
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>>9967183
>they pulled out and waited until the others came out to make improvements
Imagine holding back for a number of years >>9962488
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>>9967119
Don't even get me started on Jazz...
MT Jazz is one of the better offerings but it's slavishly toon, transformation is fiddly, and I absolutely hate how it cheats to extend the wheel wells on the legs. It looks awful in bot mode and you can see the pieces poking out in alt mode.

TW/Zeta has the old hybrid aesthetic I crave but they screwed the pooch with forearm gaps (inexcusable on anything larger than a deluxe) and what the fuck were they thinking with attaching the top rear of the car to the feet? Put it in anything wider than a mild A-stance and suddenly those large chunks are just hanging in the breeze. Plus, I hate the fake fake corp logos. Toy stripes are far better than toon stripes but I could take out leave corp logos and if they aren't going to be the real thing, then don't put them on. The knockoff corp logos just look stupid as fuck.

T&RO looks closer to the aesthetic, has the toy stripes, and even has the balls to use the real corp logos, but articulation is shit, transformation is a nightmare, and some parts don't hold together securely.

Then there's FT which so far looks the best of the bunch in terms of build and proportions, but once again, it's slavishly toon and going to come with FT's usual pitfalls of too much dicast, dicast joints, slathered in paint where it could have been colored plastic, likely an overcomplicated transformation step or five, and stopping just shy of great articulation by limiting it to single jointed elbows for no fucking reason. Oh yeah, and preorders sold out the instant they went up.

Being a Jazz fan, especially one who prefers the old hybrid MP aesthetic, is fucking suffering.
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>>9967133
>muh animation accuracy
the cartoons were dogshit
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Legends scale ruined 3p
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>>9967105
I'm waiting for stuff to actually release. NA Grimlock, IF Grimlock, NA Arcee, and for Cang to get their head out of their ass and start doing the rest of the Firmini's.
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>>9967197
Are you paid to post this everytime someone mentions the thread or is it because of your autism?
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>>9967244
We just have a bunch of autists that repeat the same shit over and over.
Like I think I've read >>9967196 at least three or four times this year alone. So many fucking babies autists who can't get over shit shifted permanently with MP Megatron in 2017 or so.
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>>9967354
oh my god who the fuck cares about accuracy with third party bootlegs when they dont even come with the official faction symbols and need shitty stickers from bootleg sticker companies
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>>9967366
Athena go to bed.
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>>9967366
Put on a filter faggot.
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>>9967213
I think they're neat but I'm inclined to agree. Sometimes I want to start collecting them, other times I look at the price tags and think people who buy them must have a room temp IQ.
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>>9967528
>more bigger = more betterer

actual retard logic
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>>9967547
It's less that and more the rest of my Transformers are "normal sized" so why start from scratch again.
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>>9967528
Yeah but literally every Magic Square figure has better engineering than their MP counterpart.
If you want a pretty statue then sure buy an MP.
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>>9967547
Yes actually. TF masterpieces lineage are from chogokin toys from the ye olden days.

I personally got into these toys as a kid with megazords.

I like big robots, and the carbots that go with them.

Btw i'm a zoomer
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>>9965034
Agreed. She's just a fun figure overall
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Do you use the rubber rot preventing spray for rubber tires?
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>>9967797
No because I've never had a problem with rubber rotting.
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>>9967213
They've got another 4 years or so before they reach the saturation point MPs got. The fact that there's a lot of 2.0s already means we're probably reaching the midway point. Then who knows what takes up 3P next. I almost think it'll go full circle to Generations scale; but modern generations scale, not the Classics-Prime Wars one.
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Did someone mention a Mirage?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBuM4571VXs
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>>9968352
On one hand, this is the best Mirage sculpt I have ever seen. It's so pleasing, and doesn't make him look funny like many other figures.

But the TRANSFORMATION. That looked positively torturous, and the fact that it's Legends scale makes it even worse. I think if I had to do that more than once I'd just throw it away.
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>>9968358
>I'd just throw it away.
Which is probably ok since it's Magic Square.
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>>9968352
Wait, Newage and Magic Square don't scale with each other?
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>>9968810
Newage is usually smaller-scaled, but like you see in the same video, both their OPs are very close in height. So maybe they use different scale charts or something, idk.
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>>9968360
I need context
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>>9968810
They don't, but from what I gather is that Newage scales better within itself than Magic Square does with itself.
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>>9968842
read filename
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Why must third party companies be afraid of beast wars
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>>9968848
Because Takara can release something that might rupture their sales by total accident and sink them.
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>>9968867
Takara isn’t releasing a Magmatron or BW combiner figure in a long time I think, and there’s a fair few plenty guys like Quickstrike or Airrazor who I feel aren’t gonna get toys in a while, or ones who literally nobody is touching like BWII Galvatron for a much more out there dragon
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>>9968842
Guy showcasing the MS figure's durability at a con. Hands their OP to a lady, has her stomp it, figure's fine.
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>>9968848
BW got an ultra-kiddified asian release. Show was dumbed down to pre-K levels. So no one likes/cares about it over there.
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>>9968848
BW just doesn't have the same fanfare as GEEWUN with boomer nostalgia money. I'm still waiting for someone to make a modern Big Convoy to go with Lio Convoy, let alone a Galvatron or Magmatron. I don't think anyone even bothered to KO MP Lio Convoy despite it having terrible paint QC.
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>>9968916
It's weird how you people seem to not realize, no matter how many times it's said in this thread, that China only really makes figures for things it had. It's incidental that they had G1 primarily. If they had had Armada back then, guess what, that would be 99% of what you would be seeing. They don't care about the foreign market, it's literally an afterthought to them.
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>>9968931
What did I say that contradicts what you said?
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>>9968890
It’s still insane how there’s absolutely nothing for Rat Trap in MP of anything with him, one of the more alluring to the mentally Geetarded things may be the BW Neo Unicron but that’s about it for things I think would bait in those type fuckers
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>>9968941
>wah wah wah why don't we have BW?
>China doesn't make what they didn't have or don't care about, BW got a shit release there that no one cares about
>WAH WAH WAH WHY DON'T WE HAVE BW?!?!?!?!?
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>>9968945
Are you furfags illiterate or something?
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>>9968958
Unfortunately this means nobody here would make third party Brave shit, because there’s a lot of that shit that China got that stuff
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>>9968848
They aren't though? There's quite a bit on the pipeline coming. Granted most of it is Transart, but there's also a few other companies doing TM Tarantulas and Terrorsaur.
The biggest problem is 3P in the last two years has become very territorial with who does what outside of stuff like G1, and even then you have New age and Magic square cornering the G1 accurate Legends market and Fanstoys/XTB basically lording over the MP G1 market with MMC just narrowly squeaking in. Since FH started their Unicron Trilogy stuff, other companies went quiet(which is a shame because FH's UT stuff is awful)

We're starting to see more "organic" 3P BW in development, and that was probably a hurdle since the way Takara handled their Season 1 BW MPs is using extensive paint apps a 3P has never donr

>>9968873
I think the reason JP BW, and most exclusive Japanese lines(Masterforce, Victory, BWII/Neo) don't get touched much is because they only ran one year, in Japan and possibly Korea and a few other asian nations. One year really isn't much to build up a nostalgic brand; which is why Sentai stuff rarely retains value as well. They're simply unsure of the market and if its worth taking the risk. BW lasted for a few years, and also got a Chinese release.
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>>9968975
Bandai banhammer is also a large reason
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>>9965169
we're getting triple changer Drift aren't we?
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>>9968358
>But the TRANSFORMATION. That looked positively torturous, and the fact that it's Legends scale makes it even worse. I think if I had to do that more than once I'd just throw it away.
are you a retard? The best part of Transformers toys is the transformation, the more complex the better
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>>9968931
China loves Bayverse though
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>>9968958
>BW got a shit release there that no one cares about
They do have a lot of nostalgia for BW there, that's what companies like TransArt are gunning after.

The problem with BW in China is that their version of the cartoon was brought over and dubbed by a KO company as "Super Energy Warriors" to push their KO toys between the late-90s to early-2000s.

That caused this weird disconnect they have between BW and the TF franchise. Most of those kids didn't know they were watching furry Transformers until they grew up and read internet articles that go
>DID YOU KNOW? Super Energy Warriors = Transformers!
As a result BW would always take a backseat to Bayformer and Geewun, but it does still have a presence there, unlike G2, RID2k, UT, etc.
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>>9968844
Thanks. That's a bit of a bummer, I was thinking about picking and choosing from each company but now I think my autism will get in the way of that. How obnoxious is the diecast in Newage stuff?
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>>9968983
TransArt Silverbolt?!?! When the fuck was this announced
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>>9968997
Too bad they won’t do something like a masterpiece rando like Bonecrusher or attempt something like Alice or Dispensor unironically
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>>9969016
Uh, didn't Dream Factory do a Bonecrusher?
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>>9968945
The big problem is 3Ps are in a constant game of chicken with official releases, so companies are hesitant to release something if they suspect a similar release is coming. FT is one of the few exceptions and even they kinda tossed out their Trailbreaker fast to beat Takara to it after holding it in for like 7 years.
With Kingdom, Transform Element's attempt at making Legends BW basically died immediately since the $10-20 official figures looked better or almost as good at their $40 figures
Since Takara did MP Tigatron I think companies figured Rattrap had to be coming soon; that plus there has yet to be a Season 1 MP style third party figure.They all skipped to Transmetals or did mechanical beast modes.
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>>9969006
The diecast usage that i see anons (maybe singular) complaining about are the thrusters on their seekers. The idea was probably to make the feet hefty in place of adding a heel spur, but by their accounts this "doesn't fucking ever work" in hand.
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>>9968995
>the more complex the better

I hate this mentality, its how you get spaghetti rods. Intuitive design is just as important as complexity, if not more. Macross valks are beautiful pieces of engineering because they follow a design philosophy (basically raising at a point so pieces fall into place), they aren't much more complex than a legends figure.
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>>9969043
>spaghetti rods
i like that term
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>>9969043
I don't like long fold out covers but I don't like too easy transformations that are basically just folding out the figure either.
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>>9969009
On their social media, Baidu I think ,no official release is announced yet.Rattrap should be out this or next month, and Black arachnia before the end of the year. Depth Charge also had a teaser.
Really hoping Transart can continue to do 3-4 molds a year or more, at this rate they'll be done with BW season 2 and 3 in 5 years or less. The only show Transmetal they haven't really shown anything for is a larger scale Optimal, and Tm2 Megatron(which I'm fine with JX for now)
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>>9969006
It's extremely minimal to the point that you have to be a hyper sperg to notice any of it.
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>>9969043
Anon nearly all modern Magic Square products lack rods.
Being a brainlet does not mean that the transformations aren't intuitive.
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>>9969072
I didn't call out MS specifically, I mean in general.
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>>9969065
Got it. Might bother getting their UM and Galvatron sometime in the future. Thanks again, fellas.
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>>9969024
1>if 3p companies are worried about Takara releasing a season 1 BW MP before them why don't they stick to toy only characters? Like how early 3p figures were designed to fill in with official collections
2>why don't 4th parties make more unique repaints/retools for BW? You see plenty with Bayverse. I'd imagine a toy colors/animated style Blackarachnia or grimlock dinobot would do well
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>>9969275
The short answer is they're a more niche market, show stuff will always sell more.
A more elaborate answer is, there are really few truly "toy-only" BW characters; pretty much every mold outside of some fuzors and Transmetals has gotten an animated model sheet through BWII/Neo or Car Robots. So in all likelihood we'd get Scuba or Diver before Clawjaw and Spittor. So toy companies might be hesitant because Lio Convoy wasn't exactly a big seller, and there are no BW Neo MPs yet. On the bright side, the animated look of II and Neo would probably be more easy to pull off than the organic sculpting/ tampo print of season 1.

On the other hand, it comes back to II and Neo not airing in China, so they're too niche.
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>>9969275
>>9969322
Razorbeast and Iguanus would be interesting to see in a toy or a model sheet type Gator Megatron and Optimus Prime bat for TP stuff
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I don’t know if this is technically the right thread for a question like this but why do you think no third party companies every try and sell a megazord? Or Voltron or anything similar. There’s gotta be a ton of audience overlap. Are copyrights somehow more diligently enforced by the parent companies and they’re scared? It seems like a massive opportunity for profit, I’d love to try and sell one but I can only 3D model for games and sculpture right now, I’m still learning engineering. I really want a transformable articulate picrel. I bet Daizyujin/ the megazord would sell like fucking hotcakes considering how contentious that new redesign is
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>>9969368
A megazord might cost as much as a combiner, so you're already limited

Theres still that mecha series jobby reviews thats new, but thats more gundam
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>>9969368
Flame Toys just announced a stylized Megazord >>9947727 Technically all the Voltron toys are by 3rd parties since the rights holder isn't a toy maker, not sure what you're on about.
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>>9969385
Flame toys has the license, so do all the voltron manufactures. I’m asking why like Makeroys for example hasn’t put out a megazord under the name “dinoking” or whatever like the 400 unofficial primes
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>>9969390
Maketoys*
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>>9969390
Lucky Cat Elvis.
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>>9969377
You mean the sengoku robot things? Those are cool, but not exactly what I mean. They’re awesome original designs by a singular entity. I’m asking more why companies that maybe also sell 3rd party transformers don’t wholesale rip off a megazord design like they do to transformers.

And yeah, it’d probably be pricey if you want it real big but remember also it doesn’t have to triple change like combiners do. That’s a lot less engineering and a lot fewer parts.
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>>9969395
Yeah okay, exactly like this. Why aren’t there a million of this sort of thing? It seems odd that these companies are so transformers focused
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>>9969398
Yes you might like the blue and red robots.

I told you why. Look at combiners. Even legends scale combiners cost 200$.

Also whenever a combiner is released, half the people here claim it falls apart. Megazords would be the same.

Expensive
Qc issues
No market

3p didn't start with figures. It started with add on kits and took a while to be even passable. Power rangers isn't even on step 1.
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>>9969402
My personal thought is that, at the end of the day, Voltron itself isn't an actual character, whereas Transformers are all individuals. They may not all be 100% unique, but they are autonomous.
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>>9969368
The company Lucky Cat made a smaller scale Voltron and they're currently working on a Devastator and a Daizyujin megazord.
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>>9969405
Combiners have qc issues because they’re triple changers, not because they combine. If a theoretical 3rd party megazord was only as mechanically complex as any other normal 3rd party single form transformer, then if it were engendered with any sense it would be just as robust.

>no market

That cannot fucking be true

>>9969415
Yeah >>9969395 mentioned. That’s pretty cool, maybe they’re trendsetters
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>>9969390
>>9969402
Funny you mentioned MakeToys because they are working on both Voltrons as Action Toys, the company that they make licensed toys under.

I think the term you're looking are "Unlicensed 3rd Party products". Usually these are made so they would be cheaper without the licensing fees. Example >>9969395 Other times they are for KOs and modified KOs, IP-sensitive stuff.

Unlicensed, quality 3P Transformers is an oddity because at the prices some of these 3Ps are charging, they might as well obtain the legit license.

However, the license from HasTak seems to have some terms that do not allow the licensee to produce a plain transforming action figure. The only licensed transforming TFs are the gimmicky stuff like the Robosen Optimus or the Lego Optimus, the rest are non-transforming figures or model kits like the Flame Toys stuff. Unfortunately this is all speculation until someone leaks those licensing contracts for some reason.

Since non-transforming Transformers are very lame, you end up with this many unlicensed 3Ps that you don't see happening with other IPs.
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>>9967354
Oh fuck off. G1 toon accuracy is bland and boring to look at. I'm not saying to greeble that absolute fuck out of things but seeing details here and there adds a lot of visual interest in what is otherwise flat featureless slabs. Also, toon accuracy often comes with overly complicated transformations and fake parts (just look at how many G1 Primes do fake chest windows for no good reason). That look may fly on paper (as in a 2D drawing) but as a 3D premium figure, those flat slab surfaces and fake alt mode parts don't look appealing at all, not to mention the fake parts suck the fun out of a toy transforming from one form to another. You're damn right I haven't "gotten over it" because the shift has done nothing but produce actively less interesting and worse figures.
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>>9969440
And most of them (besides the Chinese fuckers who made that sniper rifle) all follow under traditional gun laws unfortunately, so the life sized JP character nobody cares about isn’t gonna happen for me
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>>9969449
Didn't read. Hiding post.
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>>9969368
Two reasons:
Bandai banhammer. Bandai doesn't like it when there territory is fucked with. Gundam is popular enough that 3P companies will take the risk, but sentai in China isn't.
The other is, even in Japan sentai figures aren't particularly valuable. The market of people who want SoC level updates is sadly small.
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>>9968885
Isn't it made of some special super durable plastic? I recall someone saying this, and it's why they look so cheap too, they're just molded right in this plastic.
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>>9968995
>the more complex the better
You are what's wrong with transformers. I fucking hate shit that requires you to turn it inside out and adjust 235789235789 tiny fucking flaps the size of a grain of sand.

A great transformer should be just complex enough to be interesting, yet able to be transformed without instructions the first time around with nothing more than a pic of the altmode to reference.
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>>9969473
yeah, i cant imagine anyone getting much groundswell for my beloved dekarobo. but the megazord panders off the same era of nostalgia as geewun 3p and that shit sells gangbusters. i think its untapped, if risky.
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>>9969050
>spaghetti slap.webm
maybe it's cause i just woke up but this is killing me
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This.
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>>9968995
retard
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>>9969511
You should be more positive. Bandai can't do much about Voltron since it's WEP that has the rights so no worries there really. As for Super Sentai, it's true that Bandai can influence Toei like how they can influence Sunrise with matters regarding Gundam. However, there's now the loophole through Hasbro that non-Japanese 3Ps can use to obtain the MMPR license and that's essentially what Flame Toys did. It's easier than ever for 3Ps to do Sentai robos without getting sued, as long as they were adapted as Power Ranger Megazords.
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>>9969511
>the megazord panders off the same era of nostalgia as geewun 3p and that shit sells gangbusters.

MMPR is different because its still pushed, while the
G1 sells to 80'skids in the US, but also early Millenials who grew up with it in China, also late millenials/zoomers introduced to g1 through later series and comics, and also little kids growing up with Generations and streaming right now; and Hasbro still maintains a G1 Optimus on their merchandising to this day. Where as, once a power rangers season is over, it rarely gets revisited outside anniversaries or teamups. Because of that, the nostalgia pool for individual series past MMPR is alot more shallow
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>>9969557
man im far from a design purist but i cant help but feel this misses the mark. the megazord has this striking profile with the horns and the big boxy chest. the wings and tail feeling like gilding the lily, hes just a poor mans gaogaigar now.
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>>9969582
Nailed it. They're adding extraneous fluff that actually takes away from the iconic design features of this zord. It's just excessive in a bad way.
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>>9969557
who the fuck cares about voltron
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I'd love to be positive, but I doubt we'd see it from any unlicensed parties trying to do SoC style updates. As for stuff like Flame toys,
>>9969582
pretty much nails why that might be hit or miss; with Hasbro now trying to enter the collector's Megazord market I don't think they'll license anything but extensive redesigns of megazords for licensed 3P releases. I'm somewhat ok with this as I liked the retrofire Megazords, but it doesn't fill the hole for proper updates.

Personally, I was really hoping Hasbro used the license to get Takara engineers making MP or at least Generations style Megazords. Sadly this isn't happening.
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>>9969610
>Generations style Megazords
what?
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>>9969610
bandai's minipla of super sentai's kicks hasblow's ass so hard it curb stomps it to death
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>>9969610
Why do you want unlicensed 3P Megazords so badly when they CAN obtain the license? As mentioned, the reason why there's this weird unlicensed 3P TF market is because there's some non-compete clause preventing transforming 3P TFs.
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>>9969631
I’m suggesting unlicensed because Hasbro seemingly doesn’t like licensing “ on-model” designs that compete similarly to their product. So Flame Toys can make transformers, but they can’t transform. Three zero can make a show accurate WFC Optimus, but it can’t transform. Sentinel can make a transforming Optimus pen, but it can’t transform into something hastak would make. I’d love a sentinel /FT Megazord line that looked like the classic designs, but I doubt it’d happen.

>>9969616
I mean something on similar scale /articulation to generations combiners. Not my preference, but they’d be interesting toys at least

>>9969618
Honestly if some company would upscale the MiniPlas and made them better materials/painted they’d be ideal.
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>>9969610
i remember seeing those in stores when i was like 13/14 and being fascinated but uninterested. its cool they went for something, but on top of not being able to transform, not even looking like it COULD transform in theory was a hype killer for me.

>>9969618
you baiting some kind of company slapfight aside i fucking love the minipla line. dont have any though, im waiting for an SPD release because im pretty sure that's going to be my only chance to get a nice looking posable version of the design.
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>>9969510
>t. retard who can't figure out children's toys
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>>9969651
> not even looking like it COULD transform in theory was a hype killer for me.

It might be autism but this is why I also hate so many non-transforming/ combining versions of designs. Like a lot of non transforming TFs will leave parts that should be full of panels flat or nondescript. It ruins the illusion.
Standard size megazords/ sentai mecha would do this shit all the time too, I hated it
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>>9969664
agree 100%. like some of the styled optimuses that make the wheels super teeny tiny. at some point it tops being a stylized recreation of the character and instead becomes a generic super robot LARPing poorly as that character
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>>9969647
>I’m suggesting unlicensed because Hasbro seemingly doesn’t like licensing “ on-model” designs that compete similarly to their product.
It's way too early to tell if their MMPR license has the same terms as their TF license. The fact that FT is able to do the combination and assault mode gimmicks suggests that there is probably some differences. The "off-model" thing may very well be Flame Toys being Flame Toys.


>Honestly if some company would upscale the MiniPlas and made them better materials/painted they’d be ideal.
Maybe what you're truly after are modified KO SoCs and OSKO SMPs. These would be things that would summon the Bandai Banhammer for realz
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>>9969647
> I mean something on similar scale /articulation to generations combiners. Not my preference, but they’d be interesting toys at least

This is exactly what I want, honestly. The engineering of a voyager/ leader price modern transformer, all the articulation and detail, but just do a megazord instead. Make it the same-ish scale too I don’t give a shit. I’d love a voyager scale megazord as a desk toy.
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>>9969674
Look, I’d like to be hopeful, and considering how Hasbro handles the GI Joe and Rangers license with super 7 there might be a chance another licensor could do classic Megazords. But considering Hasbro themselves is doing that large scale Megazord I doubt they’ll want others competing should they choose to start doing other sorts. More than FT I think the best shot at something like SOC Daizyujin would be Threesero, since they have the Power Rangers license, and have been doing a lot of mecha lately.

As for the MiniPla comment, that’s mostly an offhand remark that if we couldn’t get anything else, I’d be ok with something like that. But as per my original remark, I don’t expect any unlicensed figures anytime soon, either.
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I guess full paint is toxic to Magic Square now.
Really want to pretend that they didn't release Perceptor fully painted twice for some reason.
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>>9969504
It's just nylon plastic. Which is pretty durable, yes. And also they're mostly molded in this, yes, just like most figures are molded in PVC plastics. As for looking "cheap", thats for an individual to decide.
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>>9969766
Dousing a figure in paint for no reason sucks, anon. Thats why you have people bitching about shitty fucking MP's that shed paint like a dog sheds hair. Paint should be reserved for picking out details, and the majority of a figure should be cast in the appropriate color plastic for each part.

If you're a child who absolutely must have shiny things, they could always use a gloss injected plastic or put a gloss coat on top. Either way, no, a dark purple fucking Shockwave should not be head to toe paint.
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>>9969799
Didn't read.
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>>9969810
You read it because you had to respond to it, faggot. Enjoy your cope.
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>>9969815
Hidden
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>>9969653
>children's toys
*manchildren's toys
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>>9969322
Which is a shame because we finally have the technology to replicate the organic "guyver-esque" box art
>>9969336
I love all of the Insecticons but Poisonbite and Ramulus are cool too
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>>9969916
Who's bottom right
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>>9969941
Tripredacus
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>>9969944
Man that pic unlocks memories. I had all of these things. Wonder if I still do
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What material is New Age's stuff made of? Is it as durable as Magic Square's?
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>>9969582
I don't mind people taking chances with designs as long as there is options for the OG designs, I mean it's not like there isn't a thousand Megazords figures already that are accurate to the OG so I don't mind if people try to stylize it a bit or modernize it the design a bit.

If someone doesn't like this get the SoC one. And don't tell it's expensive now because if you can afford this fucker you can afford a aftermarket SoC that's the reason I'm not getting this one that price is nuts. Just hope that box version copies this design and is on the same price as the Voltron one it will be an instabuy for me.
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>>9969916
The Transquito art is metal as fuck!!
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>>9969963
Regular plastic that you can find in most 3P and MP stuff.
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>Which is a shame because we finally have the technology to replicate the organic "guyver-esque" box art
We live in a world where copying designs from a low effort 80s cartoon ad nauseum is more lucrative and desired by the masses than bringing unique and interesting box art designs to life. Fuck this gay planet.
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>>9970082
It's like complaining about an 80s show ad-nauseum in low effort posts and expecting anything to change. Sad isn't it.
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>>9970082
I hope that's the next wave of retro revivals, card art-accurate toys. I know it won't happen. But I can dream.
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>>9970099
It'll be G1 box accurate figures just to piss you off.
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>>9969916
>>9969949
>>9969988
I love this art, it a large part of the reason I'm interested in art in the first place. Done by Doug Hart who was mostly a GI Joe artist. When I walked into the toy aisle and the peg full of individual paintings was replaced by a row of screaming CGI Cheetors I knew shit was gonna get bad.
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>>9970151
I love how these were drawn by someone who knew how to render but had not the slightest grasp of simple joints or how things fit together mechanically. They're just made of boxes butting up against each other. Kind of a tenuous grip on perspective too.
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>>9970054
will it break easily? Thinking of getting my kid nephew one
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>>9970151
>Silver chrome and metallic paint instead of matte colors
>Vehicles designed to look near identical to real world cars
>Realistic panel lines and mechanical detail instead of flat surfaces
>Windows rendered to look transparent and highly reflective, instead of matte/opaque
>Loaded with classic sci-fi decals
>Designs can actually turn into their respective vehicles without cheating
>The beautiful airbrushed shading
The G1 box arts were great and are the absolute epitomy of 80s style. I don't know why people nostalgic for G1 prefer sunbow designs instead
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>>9970094
Found the tooner.
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>>9970219
They're not kids toys. He'll break something or eat something and die.
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>>9970207
It's endearing in it's shittiness. Also apparently the guy who did all of these is still around and seems nice enough.
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>>9970219
Get him a deluxe Transformed from Wal-mart or something. Newage being small doesn't mean they should just be given to kids.
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>>9970263
>>9970314
I used to but he says he likes the complex stuff more
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>>9970219
Really depends on what kind of kid it is
>Have they played with transformers before?
>Will they understand and respect that it is an 80$ toy and not a 10$ toy from Walmart?
>Do they have patience?
>Are you willing to lose out on that money in case they break it?
You mostly have to use common sense and hopefully you trust him enough not to do anything stupid
>I'm reminded of that era during ROTF where 50% of kids loved the increased complexity and accuracy while the other 50% would slam the figure against the wall and eat all of the panels after failing to transform it
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>>9970338
If he's old enough to know that and tell you, he's probably fine. I'd maybe start him on Magic Square or Iron Factory, those seem more durable and cost less. But he'll probably be fine with Newage as long as he's like, past that idiot child banging-two-toys-together age and has most of his motor skills down.
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>>9970357
>Have they played with transformers before?
yea he has a collection and I gave him my old stuff too.
>Will they understand and respect that it is an 80$ toy and not a 10$ toy from Walmart?
eh probably not, can probably tell if its higher quality though
>Do they have patience?
yea he likes to transform them, ends up asking his dad or me when he can't figure it out
>Are you willing to lose out on that money in case they break it?
yea I'm not getting him like $200 collectors figures or anything.
>I'm reminded of that era during ROTF where 50% of kids loved the increased complexity and accuracy while the other 50% would slam the figure against the wall and eat all of the panels after failing to transform it
wtf is with that picture? Could they not just given the kid a pre transformed figure?

>>9970359
He likes dinosaurs too so I might get him that iron factory grimlock that's coming out
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>>9969460
How does it feel to be such a fucking snowflake that you're afraid of someone that disagrees with you? You very when it happens and call them names but when they snap back to defend their opinion, you run and hide and pretend they never said anything. What a fucking baby you are.
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>>9970394
Didn't read.
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>>9970389
That might not even be the kid's doing. Toy promo shots used to be set up by the photographer a lot, and they did not necessarily understand the toys a lot of the time, which led to many memorable mistransformed promotional shots.
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>>9970271
Has he done anything new like them?
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>>9970416
I know, I know. You're too afraid to get your feelings hurt and your identity invalidated. Don't mind me mine though. I'll just be over here laughing at how pathetic you are.
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>>9970595
dr
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>>9970389
I'm guessing the people responsible for the photo shoot had no fucking idea how to transform the toy either.
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>>9970600
The best part is I know you ARE reading every post but your fragile who is making you cower away because you have no response.
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>>9970694
E
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Wonderful-Trans WT01 Ronin
https://weibo.com/7777047287/M04V4mb65
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>>9970812
Familiar design but it transforms. 21cm, 5xx RMB
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>>9970814
Just pokin' and proddin' at ol' F**** T***
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>>9970812
>>9970814
>>9970818
Despite not being the same, the fact that MMC milked their Drift mold into oblivion just means I can't feel excitement to seeing the character.
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>>9970814
That's a neat car mode. Reminds me a lot of Armada Blurr
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>>9970812
This kinda looks good, like that one old artwork of Drift. You know the one.

It also looks extremely Gundam-y in a lot of the shapes though, and I'm not really into it.
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>>9970841
>weeb robot whose entire personality is being a weeb looks like a Gundam
What were you expecting, really?
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>>9970814
Pretty good. Hopefully the Optimus by cyber factory gets released. Did their bumblebee starscream do well?
>>9970839
I miss animated so much
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>>9970812
>>9970814
>>9970818
I don't care for Drift in the slightest but this is actually pretty cool in concept just because of how clean both modes are. Neither mode looks at all like it transforms at a glance. If it weren't for me noticing the little hinge joint on the side of the knee there, I'd have just thought that bot mode was just another one of those high end non transforming figures/kits like Flame Toys does.
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>>9970389
What I think you are looking for is one of those slightly oversized IF/MS KOs like the sixshot one. It's almost the same size with the same build, it's cheap (you can find it for around 20$ or less on Aliexpress IIRC) complex enough but nothing too crazy and you can use it to see if he's careful with it since it's cheap.

If he likes it and you see he takes care and doesn't break them can go for the more expensive ones.
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CANG Toys Kinglion
https://weibo.com/2923350047/M069QcJkC
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>>9971083
Just kidding, it's Planet X's flying wardrobe
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>>9971085
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I think it looks better this way without the undersized lion chest.
https://weibo.com/2923350047/M068IFEDr
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>>9970814
>Asurada GSX altmode
Don't give a single fuck about Drift but hot damn
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>>9971292
Oh THAT'S what I recognize it from!
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>>9970812
>>9970814
This is nice, I like how it looks like a Transformable Flame Toys one(with less detail, sure). Glad I skipped the FT and MMC now.
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>>9970227
>My god,
>It’s full of st—range poses and proportions.



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