Magnus looks great for how the gimmick is implemented. Gonna skip the dedicated Prime version though it doesn't really look good enough when you can't excuse it as being for the combination gimmick.I wonder what they'll do for Magnus repaints though.
>>9292520Am I the only one who legitimately Hope's someone makes a proper armor upgrade for either mp10 or mp44?
>>9292520>old >>9271785Don't strain yourself with the OP, dipstick.
>>9292610what are you on about?
So does anyone have the Newage Constructicons?
>>9292580Yeah, because Ultra Magnus already exists.
>>9292580I would not trust MP44's nu-MP paint to survive being shoved into a suit.An armor upgrade kit would be fun for MP10 but to get any kind of decent end result I wouldn't even bother trying to make it transform, just make it some attachable parts and leave it at that.
>>9292773I've got the first two sets. I like them, but they don't have that premium look and feel of their past releases.
>>9292773Are the MS ones out yet? NA kinda dropped the ball here, I think I'll put in for the MS ones.
>>9292832Scrapper and MM came out a couple weeks ago in China. No NA retailer has gotten them in yet though.
>>9292527I swear, more and more /v/ bullshit is making it over here. Just seems like the second a company fails, literally everything they do from that point on becomes a failure and prior even start pretending they always were a failure, and they'll bend over backwards to find things to complain about to say it. It's like the /toy/ version of TORtanic.
>>9292936TORtanic was a pretty poor comparison to try and get your point across, considering everything Bioware put out afterward was also awful.
>>9292980What I mean it's that /v/ had so much fun seeing TOR crash and burn, that they became addicted to it. They needed their next fix of failure so now fucking every game that comes out from any company, they look for everything they can to claim it as a garbage fire. Game gets a 8.0? It's a flop. Game has a bug or two that isn't even consistent or game breaking? It's a flop. Game sells less than *other game* but still made a solid profit? Flop. TOR made them enjoy shitting on games more than they like playing them. After FT turned to you the worse, /toy/ has been behaving similarly and it only guy worse after NA dropped the ball on their Devy set. Worse yet is we saw their Prime/Magnus prior to that and people liked it but now so many are pretending that never happened and the figure always looked dead on arrival. Just feels like there are more and more folks here lately just looking for their next flop figure because they want to laugh at people who bought it and feel superior that they didn't.
MMC Saltus recolor.
https://www.weibo.com/7299478526/Kx3EWsLE2New pics from MFT.
>>9293196Why did they shoot so many shots from the same angles?
>>9293059That level of smugness has always been a core part of the third party experience. It's fucking retarded ass elitism that also plagues mainline transfags. Devy looks lame as fuck. But Magnus and prime look great. Especially since they said 60% of the cab mode is different from Prime. Can't wait to mess around with it.
>>9293209It's extra fucking retarded when the whole point of 3p to begin with was that brand loyalty was stupid and that cool toys should be bought because you want the best version of a character, not MS is better than NA or FT is better than FH. It's all so tiresome.
>>9293214In the early stages of this new legends boom, the unity of everything being better than Dx9 held us together for a while. But then the cock waving just had to start. The companies are just as bad too now. This is why Transformers are my side piece. Too much negative shit
>>9293218Goddamn that looks good. Kinda want to get into these. Keep the mft stuff for post movie, Newage for Premovie.
>>9293217Ironic that just as the mainline stuff had brand wars more or less cease entirely thanks to Legends being retired, that 3p had new brand wars start up almost simultaneously due to combiner dick waving contests and the like.
>>9293236I love how it's always the same combiners in all the same fucking order. I want a goddamn legends Landcross and Liokaiser. At this rate, shit will end up stopping with abominus cuz the lack of interest cuz it's the same shit we always get no matter the size.
>>9293293Yeah other combiners once in a while would be nice.At least TFC's Road Caesar is pretty good.
>>9293293Mainlanders usually stop at Masterforce.
Nice, I've always wanted a Blitzwing that was Classics Seeker-scaled.
>>9292576Gee I sure hope we get translucent and gold versions.
>>9293418>Gold Optimus Prime>Gold Ultra Magnus coreHow do you tell the difference?
So anyways, the Chinese are referring to the NA Devastator frame as the "one-piece swimsuit"
Did they paint the eyes AND add a LED?
>>9293626I thought China wasn't allowed to portray swimsuits though? Guess NA Devy will be banned in China.
>>9293209I collect any kind of figures, loyalty to any kind of company is for retards. That said, NA Devy/Magnus/Prime look like dog shit because Devy is clearly being rushed by proof of missing fucking parts and Magnus/Prime has clear issues like the double chest and the arms being visible as fuck
>>9293626They're not wrong. Fuck this lazy ass "We're not making combiners, we're making action masters with plug on figures" bullshit companies are doing now.
>>9293794Fuck as simple as it is, the OG DX9 Devastator is world's better in terms of engineering.
>>9293823DX9 and NA, same designer.
>>9293830And your point is what exactly?
>>9293837He could've made Hulkie 2.0 if he didn't go geewun
>>9293823>>9293794You have options, why are you even mad? in any case just ignore it and wait for another version, Devy gets one every couple of months.
>>9293853>why are you mad something you would have like to bought is instead half finished and rushed out the door to compete with another company, or your other potential buy is ugly because of extremely poor engineering decisionsI wonder why?Also cool, point to all of the Legends Devy's. Go on, where are all of they? Because the only released one is DX9's and that came out what, 3-4 years ago? Fuck we don't even have good Legends Dinobots yet.
>>9293859TAKE YOUR PICK>DX9 Hulkie>MFT Hulkie>Chao Bao Hulkie (MFT's front)>AoXing Hulkie>AoXing Hulkie but yellow>Weijiang Hulkie
>>9293932>one alright figure that is mostly noteworthy because it's an all built in Legends figure>and it's 900 KO's
>>9293236It's because a huge portion of the fandom are insecure retards and I'm not just talking about some of the TFW boomers, the Chinese TF fans themselves are a big part of it, and that's before we even get into the weird phenomenon of Southeast Asian collectors slash hoarders slash scalpers slash smug wannabe TFWiki editors. If you ever lurked places like the Vietnamese, Malaysian or Indonesian TF communities you'll be surprised at how many of them hoard FT's shit in addition to premium stuff from other brands like statueshit, Bandai's Soul of Chogokin and even vintage Godaikin bricks. There are people down there whose toy collections are easily worth more than their houses.
>>9293217>But then the cock waving just had to start. The companies are just as bad too now.They're in competition with each other, so it was bound to happen.
>>9293965>There are people down there whose toy collections are easily worth more than their houses.Lets be honest, people here post walls of cluttered shit thats worth more than their houses. Collectors are just hoarders under a more self important title.
>>9294006Well you're not wrong, shit piles up really fast which is why I made a rule of space for myself, whenever my shelves are full and I still want that 34857362939th iteration of Optimus then something must go.
>>9294006>Collectors are just hoarders under a more self important title.I've sort of dealt with a hoarder neighbor and man the difference between an excessive collection and actual mental illness hoarding is just not comparable.When my box wall extends to my kitchen and I can only use one stove burner because the rest are covered in transformers, then I'll know there's a problem, but until then I always hate when people make that comparison.
>>9294082Having the mental illness known as collecting, and hoarding, are the same thing, just in different strengths. Autism is a spectrum, not everyone is ultraviolet tier retardation.
>>9294020>if I want another optimus something must goThis is the healthiest way of collecting honestly. If I have something in storage for over 6 months then that shit is out of here80n4h
>>9293932I find it funny what third party things get knocked off and what doesn't Hulkie and generationtoy devy 50 ko'sFanstoys or mmc 0 ko'sI just wonder why somethings get touched but not others
>>9294196I think it's as simple as the fact that some company owners just have more influence outside the realm of transformer toys so you can't really KO shit under their noses. Like whoever runs Magic Square clearly has no sway considering most of what they do gets KO'd but there isn't a single Fanstoys KO because those people can probably get people killed if they find out a factory is aping one of their molds.
>>9294196It depends on their relationship "guan xi" with their sub-contractors. DX9/UT and Warbotron/GT have shitty factories that sold their CADs. The DX9 owner not protecting their CAD was one of the many reasons why DX9 designers quit. Some KOs are reverse-engineered though, like the MFT stuff that aren't as widespread.Then you have 5th-dimensional tier KOs. According to MFT, their prototyping sub-contractor sold their CADs to the late PaPa Toys.
>>9293420Guarantee it's the exact same toy both times, you'll just pay extra for the gold Magnus armor
>>9294274I somewhat doubt they'd sell the Magnus version by itself due to the mold differences, especially the matrix window that's designed to open in the armour.
So I'm new to 3rd party transformers figures and wanted to order one off showzstore, is that site legit does anybody have experience with that site?
>>9295065I use Showz plenty since American retailers like TCP and TFSource charge me like $30+ for each legends toy I buy.It helps that I'm in Commiefornia so I can get things in like a week to two weeks. It could be longer for you depending where you are at.
>>9295071Far east side of America but i don't mind the waiting, though i never ordered anything from china so how does that work? Any customs and what delivery service is used?
Got Saltus Alternative, I'm a bit bothered by MMC's last minute changes (green ended up more saturated, yellow "belly button" should've been tan instead of yellow). This makes the darker greens contrasts too much with the figure, imo.He's stillvery handsome though. Unfortunately the Studio OX head on my copy has a small paint blemish which annoys me too much to ever display it with the DX9 Carry.
>>9295078I've never had to deal customs, but I only did like six orders at this point. Maybe I'm lucky so far on that.And I'm not real sure about what delivery service it uses but I've not had too much trouble on that end either. It's also typically like $3 to ship things I buy so I got no complaints, especially since the items still get to me before American retailers get it.
https://www.weibo.com/6001111152/KxbIwwNx1So weird. MFT is back putting things out as MFT.
https://www.weibo.com/7435192480/KxaLy5Faohttps://weibo.com/tv/show/1034:4679055858139166Justoy Inspector Willy (lol)
>>9295355>Monkey HoneyShe's just a pretty face used by Mangmotion to be his alternative channel isn't she
>>9295359Nah, her photography skills aren't as good.
>>9295338>>9295340possibly because this appears to be a ko undersized ss blurr? some of the parts look pretty similar. glad they're doing more movie bots, mft magnus and rodimus work great with my old metroplex
>>9295395Legends scale bots in general work great with official and 3P titans. WST and official core class are even better for scale autism but they look a bit janky on their own.
>>9294283>>9294274>>9293420I do wonder what alternate colors they'll offer for Magnus. Clear seems to be a given but gold is off the table because he didn't exist to get lagooned, and since Galvatron didn't get one, that's a pretty good indication they aren't gonna give it to characters who weren't there. Otherwise, what's left besides diaclone colors? Toy colors with red legs and brighter blue? How would they even distribute them? Clear makes sense to do Magnus and his armor. Toy colors seems like they could just do the armor alone without a matching core robot since the only real difference is the silver bumper instead of red. Diaclone colors seems like they could split it between the Prime mold for the core bot and then do diaclone armor to just skip the chest matrix gimmick with the justification that diaclone doesn't need a matrix. Well, unless part of the Magnus retool includes extra tabs or slight shape changes to even fit and secure into the armor but it didn't really seem like it did.
>>9295519>he didn't exist to get lagooned,Didn't they lagoon Cliffjumper even though he wasn't lagooned in the show either?Anyways, if they are willing to do Galvatron levels of retooling, they could always turn it into a Ginrai
>>9295525A bin full of Prowls?
>>9295525This looks like the Irontrans version but not so sure.
>>9295551Nah the torso assembly looks too good for them I think it's MS finally getting their finger out and doing prowl after doing one of the streaks like 3 years ago (fair enough I guess)
>>9295525Please do a Barricade repaint for the love of god, the NA mold one sucks cock compared to the MS mold.
>>9295524CJ got it purely because 2-pack. They weren't going to do a set with a gold figure and then a not gold figure.
>>9295777The only thing NA's Datsuns have over MS is the car mode. NA's is beautiful, MP-tier. MS's is worse than even the new official toys. Bot mode's fucking killer though, wild how much it dances around NA's
Mixed feelings. While the set looks good and their fun to mess with. They just don't have that NA polish and feel I've come to expect from this company. Esp paying the higher price tag. Will of course get that last two to complete the set, but right now I'm debating on going in on the torso.
They painted the abs. Wish people would have asked them to paint his gun as well.
Finally got my KO Shockwave. Here's smaller than I thought but I really like him.
>>9296365I think the MP is kind of overhated personally. If it's a KO I'd be careful with his knees though they're held together by pretty shallow pins. My official one has held up fine over the years but I've heard of people having their shockwave's legs fall off like that.
>>9296380Thanks for the heads up. By the way, do the thighs on yours like to split when you bend the knees? I keep having to push mine back together.
>>9296365your kitty is cute
>>9296513>>9296548I agree, black cats are the best.
>>9296558I hate geewun devy, hes way too lean and not enough chonk. Even combiner wars knew to fatten up the consrtuctiocons
>>9296492Probably just some KO funkiness>>9296558Reminds me of Engineer General. I still kind of want to get that, I wish I was thinking about it last time I ordered from Robotoybase they're the only place that still has it. It's cheaper than amlny of the legends devestator sets too lol.
>>9296721Back in early June, Magic Square made a post saying that each of their two packs would contain combiner pieces, and that reservation would have you get (or able to redeem? not quite certain) both cartoon AND comic parts. Scrapper & Mix Master SRP is $100.NA says "fuck that / fuck you" -- SRP for $100, $110, $115 AND $70 for their skeleton.>>9296741The Before & After one, right? If so, I agree in that regard.
>>9296748>Back in early June, Magic Square made a post saying that each of their two packs would contain combiner pieces,Their first set didn't come with any combiner pieces. They're gonna do the same shit as NA. Either that or jack up the price of the other two sets.
>>9296757Didn't get that far then in the TFW thread. I was curious on the timeline since they both literally announced on the same day, but here we are with just MS's first set coming out, and NewAge having thrown their whole bucket of slime in only six months.
>>9296757Same here. I preordered the set when it was still in "uncolored preview" mode on ShowZ so I thought maybe I got shipped a set without whatever the "preorder bonus" is supposed to be. Anyone know when the rest will release? MS has been real quiet these last few weeks and it's kind of spooking me. I'd hate to hear about them going under and not being able to finish my constructicon team. I also don't want to make accounts for those shitty chink platforms (Wibby? Badoink?) whatever the fuck they're called
>>9296824they're coming, but their taking their time unlike NA. They've got their prime 2.0 and Jazz coming along. Also looking here >>9295525 Prowl is finally set to be released. I honestly would expect the team to be finished this year. What I'm wondering is why no western retailers have gotten in the first set yet.
>>9296757Yeah I wouldn't be that surprised if they end up selling the devy parts seperately, or price hike the last set or something.I can maybe see why they might not decide to include anything with Scarpper and Mixmaster since they thighs could just come with Hook and Longhaul, but yeah.
>>9297119they should include some hands that have a flat panel on the back of them to clean up the armored mode's chest, it's like the one thing on it that looks weird but it would be such an easy fix
>>9295777Second. Need me some more G1 Barricade, please MS!
the fuck the fuck?https://tieba.baidu.com/p/7532046151
>>9297617DX9 Hulkie 'cons on NA's swimsuit
>>9296558>>9296561I cannot get past how model kit-plain this thing looks for the money, even aside from all its other issues. I don’t care if it’s not ABLOO BLOO BLOO MUH TOON ACCURACY OH GOD I’M TOOOOOOO ING, it needs some offset accents in slightly different shades of green and purple, and some of the mechanical details highlighted. I may be the biggest Newage shill on the planet but unless they release a toy/G2/Diaclone deco that fixes all the hollow areas on the individual bots and actually has some paint accents and decals to break the surface up, I’m never, ever buying this thing.
https://weibo.com/6199528366/Kxo48DXa6Looks like Superion but whose? ZETA's one just came out...
>>9297617>>9297618Honestly aside from Longhauls wheels awkwardly poking out the side of his torso, that looks alright.
>>9297619Oh hi there Deluxe Baldwin. Lame e-celeb jokes aside I'm a NA mark too and I was very on the fence with this thing, I thought I was the only one. >>9297621One of the comments asked if this was an OSKO of the mini Zeta Superion, which is possible.
>>9297688Baldwin is fucking weird as fuck.
>>9297688I have multiple versions of every mould NA has ever put out. I honestly think this Devastator looks like complete shit compared to their other recent output, it’s like they dug up some CAD files they had lying around from a few years ago, around the time the Datsuns were released. It absolutely isn’t up to their current standard. I’m not entirely feeling their Prime or Ultra Magnus either - if those cross the rubicon of a $100+ price point for a Legends figure, I think I might be done with NA. It was nice while it lasted.
Sad reminder that there isn't a unified Legends scale. https://tieba.baidu.com/p/7532904078
>>9298026I think the Devastator and MM look okay there. Bruticus clashes with the style of the other two, though.
>>9298026Newage's legs look like shit. They are way too long in an attempt to gouge out mixing and matching combiners with MS.
>>9298638Funny thing is NA Megatron is almost identical height wise to MS Megs. NA OP and Magnus are, based on digibashes, are also the same height as MS versions. But their other characters are way smaller than MS versions and are more in line with IF. Now their Devastator is a bit too tall for both MS and IF combiners lol.
whats your opinion on hello carbot? Are they worth collecting?
>>9297619They are doing fix parts for damn near everyone to deal with the ugly hollow legs several of them have, but no idea how they plan to release them. Not sure if they're gonna pack them in for free or release them as paid DLC.As for G2/diaclone, G2 was already confirmed and was shown off wearing OX parts, which did go a long way in giving it some much needed detail. Then there's the toy colors but we haven't seen much of them either. Can't speak for diaclone but NA was asked about SG and they said yes. But again, no idea on if any of the other versions will get fix parts too or how they'll get them, not to mention no word on how the OX parts will work/be distributed.
>>9298065Well, that is 2 G1 designs next to something that wants to be as un-G1 as possible so yeah, no shit Bruticus looks out of place.
>>9298026I hope iron factory does another combiner.
>>9299328Better engineering than Tobots since Sonokong was Takara's old Korean licensee after all. However, the line is mostly stuck in Korea so it's $$$ to import especially with how all their stuff are 24+cm huge. S1 (2014) was only brought over to Mainland China like last year, but the S1 bots are fugly with proportions similar to Cybertron/Galaxy Force TFs.
>>9297621>yet another one of the same 4 or 5 season 1 combiner teamsI'm so fucking tired.
>>9299338Honestly I want the arms reworked to cover those gaping forearm voids. I expect better than cheap Hasbro mainline engineering at these kinds of price points.
Showz has the mini zeta superion dudes in stock. I might get em. As much as the na devy pisses me off, I don't mind the zeta having pants.
>>9299572Honestly, forearm gaps are something I can excuse at this scale. It's not my preference, obviously, but at this scale, regardless of who is engineering it, there are physical limitations that don't always allow an option to deal with it and sacrifices have to be made somewhere. Many flaws are also far more noticable in blown up high res photos than they are in hand. The near MP levels of engineering we see in many 3p legends offerings has kind of spoiled us and we forget it's a goddamn miracle they got as much of it in there as they did. The larger you get though, the less excusable things like forearm gaps become. Official deluxe scale is pushing it but sometimes excusable but no 3p deluxe scale is, and no matter who it is, voyager and larger it's completely inexcusable to see.
Secret Legends+ Constructicons.
>>9299698So I'm not certain who "BW" is supposed to be, but I thought the only other Menasor in the works was coming from Rising Force?
>>9300209New company that popped up last month and shit out OSKOs of Magic Square Breakdown/Wildrider a week later.
>>9300226Right. Them. Got it, thanks.
I want to buy a 4th Scourge so I can use the 4th alt face
>>9302091You need 4^3 = 64 for all possible combinations of head+shoulder+weapons.
https://weibo.com/6539026191/KxiWC3YSsDo you prefer your fries in green...
>>9302149I really prefer door wings on my Jazzs. Does this one have it?
>>9302181>>9302184>You get NewLegs! You get NewLegs! Everybody gets NewLegs!
My first Fans Hobby purchase.What can I expect?
>>9302648This is you 3 months later.
>>9302652FUck, I'm going to need new shirts.
>>9302648Mind the ratchets for the combined form waist and the base prine legs will require a bit of force to shift between modes
>>9302648Power Baser combined cab might be a bit frustrating to be "just right."
Real interesting looking Megatron.
>>9302977I'd consider him but I really don't like the face, as much as I'd like another Megatron
>>9302985I would unironically display him with that cobra commander faceplate if it was more reflective
>>9302991He looks almost like a Metal Slug, I love it.
>>9302574Those are MS, not NA.
>>9303177Oooooh, you're poking a hornet's nest with that one, Anon (not mine, mind you).
Is this a possibility?I don't follow MMC.
>>9303691The tragic life of a backpack boi.
>>9304690Convention exclusive maybe
>>9304690No, no it's not.
>>9302648Power Baser is solid, but there's been lots of problems with Naval Commander. Mine came with a cracked shoulder and 3 of the fingers broke on the first transformation. I contacted Fans Hobby directly and they were very cordial. They sent out some replacement parts. Still waiting for them, though. Even with the broken parts, it's still a very fun figure. I also have Double Evil, God Armour, Athena, and their 3 Monsterbots and they're all great.
>>9302652Why is Overlord so fucking sexy? I have Carnifex already but I'm still tempted to go for Double Evil.
>>9305591Did the reissue not fix a lot of those problems?
>>9305605If you're asking about Naval Commander, I'm honestly not sure if mine was from Batch 1 or 2. I just got it last month so I guess that makes it the reissue.
>>9305598Double Evil is not only properly Masterpiece sized but also Masterpiece styled. His bulky proportions give him that classic evil super robot vibe. Carnifex is cool but he has his own niche. What's weird is most of the boomers in my local community actually prefer Carnifex because of his greeble and edgier design.
>>9305655I don't really think it's weird, Japanese G1 isn't as popular with North American G1. Many people like IDW's take and/or stylization more.
Bit the bullet and got that Deformation Space Starscream MP everyone's praising like it's the second coming of ChristThe only thing I hated when I first saw is is the lack of accessories compared to MP52. And apparently everything on it is painted so hellow paint chips I guess.
The Chinese community went from endlessly flaming NA to worshiping them once they found out the "swimsuit" works with Hulkie and its KOs. What a redemption arc. https://tieba.baidu.com/p/7535618828
>>9303691At least the literal dump truck ass is technically animation accurate so NA Longhaul does indeed contribute something. Motormaster is always a pure gap filler these days.
>TCP are finally expecting MS Scrapper and Mixmaster>was originally going to compare the first two releases and see which I was going with>two sets in on NA since it took them so long to come in>debating if I still want to keep the MS order now
>>9306234Their weibo it blowing up with praise also. Complete turnaround. https://m.weibo.cn/u/6476829781
Did we ever get a G1 version of this guy from china? (Dunno where most 3P come from, whatever)
>>9305675I mean these are the same boomers who prioritize FT bots over anyone else's, to the point of them still not having a complete Superion and Menasor after all these years. You'd think they'd go for the Overlord with a more classic aesthetic in spite of where he came from. But I get what you're saying.>>9306234>>9306573Yeah because it basically means people only need to buy the swimsuit and the much cheaper Hulkie KO team to form Devastator. The most important points of articulation are all on the suit so the entire thing is not just serviceable, it's actually brilliant if it was intentional since it also gives longtime Hulkie owners an option. Just last night I spoke to a dude who plans to use his Weijiang KO Hulkie with the NA suit and sell his MS versions. I still prefer how the MS version looks, though.
>>9306234How compatible is are they? Do you need to do any modifications or is it literally just plug them in and they fit? Because if that's the case that's pretty cool.
>>9306813"It just works" but you can mod some parts to make it more stable.>>9306800Weijiang's is oversized and doesn't work. You need MFT's or some of the ones under their supermarket offshoot brands
>>9306837Thanks, I'll tell him to get the MFT versions then.
>>9306837That's pretty awesome, I suppose. As a whole, NAs devastator is still complete garbage, but at least the stupid 'swimsuit' is still salvageable with the Hulkie bois so you don't have to buy half a dozen of NAs overpriced limbs.
>>9305598>but I'm still tempted to go for Double EvilI mean...You really just should do it.
>>9306600No, we didn't. Fans Hobby put out the three Autobot Monsterbots, but didn't complement them with the Decepticon Firecons.
Has anyone heard anything about TCP having exclusive distribution rights to the MS contructicons here in the US? Just watched one of bobbys vids and he mentions it.
>>9307074I don't know, I always just buy MS figs from chinese stores, american stores always seem to take forever to get them in.
>>9299698I keep going back and forth on these guys. I love the upsize, but I'll want an upspized devvy, than an upsized bruticus, otherwise they'll be at an awkward scale for that stuff. No gaurantee that the others will be upsized/created either
>>9307074I haven't read anything directly, but it's clear enough to see that there are no listings for any other NA-based site -- TFSource, ToyDojo, Ages Three and Up (both US and Canadian sites), Agabyss...
Is MakeToy's Despotron too short to scale with Deformation Space?
>>9307116I couldn't personally attest one way or the other, but I could at least advise that there would at least likely be images of Despotron compared to MP-36, as well as MP-36 compared to D. Space; and then make the best kind of guess that way.
>>9306234>>9306573I wonder if NA are malding over this because they know full well they’re only likely going to see good returns on the add-on kit and not the actual bots after this?
>>9307487Funny the same thing happened with DX9 too, everyone relized the trailer was cheap as hell so they just bought the trailer and then glued some cheapo model cars to it
>>9299698This is the ko right? Have they said if it's coming with the studio ox swap out parts or not?
>>9308895No mention since they started.
I think the company putting this out, Unique Toys, has made 3rd party transformers figures. Were those any good? Thinking of preordering this one.
>>9308939The design and engineering should be ok but I'm assuming they are employing new factories so the QC and workmanship would be a mystery. There was a lot of drama with their old one.
>>9308939Is that really unique toys? Just looks like one of those metal build companies that pop up from time to time
Magic Square Mixmaster has a fucking ab crunch and I missed it for a month.
>>9308991>>9308939Yeah if I had to guess this is one of many unique toys, ironically the name isnt that unique.
Magic Square 2.0
https://weibo.com/3468043824/Ky8wjwcbKYou thought your IF Seeker collection was completamente finito tomato did you?
https://weibo.com/6694667657/Ky85Q5ZGvPOs for Mooka's 1st batch have all been taken up. No idea if it includes the global batch.
https://tfsource.com/weekend-sale/TFS with some XTB sales going on.
https://www.thechosenprime.com/nah27david$120 for Newage Prime
>>9311382Mainland price for NA OP = 368rmb and UM = 398rmb, before PO discounts.
>>9310888I really hope their G2 Sandstorm they showed last year is next, it looks so good and I don't have the conehead mold.
>>9311382Man, the rest of him doesn't look bad, but every time I see that double chest I just get sad.
>>9311421Too bad Newage's policy is limited to NewLegs.
>>9311382I'm convinced that you must be a shill if you live in America, don't get your shit from China, and then post American retail prices.
>>9311382They can fuck off with that price, it’s not worth a dollar over $70. So long, Newage.
>>9311574While I don't disagree, several of their recent bigger guys have been $70+ and none of them came with giant trailers for accessories. Despite being a very simple in terms of engineering and functionality, large accessories like trailers pretty much always nearly double the price regardless of who's making it. I can pretty much guarantee you MS's Prime 2.0 will be at least $100 as well (though probably still close to NA's price) considering some of their latest prices and the fact that they are also including a trailer.
>>9306983They're beta cucks who don't want to make anything to compliment other releases, like how they still have yet to do a g2 Megatron to with the g2 Prime they made
>>9311562Mainly do it for customer service.
Anyone have size comparisons between the articulated hands available for most? I need a pair for kingdom galvatron, considering sideswipe or tracks mold, but Magnus or star saber would be great if they could work
>>9311999I'm still so fucking mad about this. It's the one fucking TF I want more than anything is a proper high quality update to. Their G2 Prime was fucking perfect in its style and simplicity and if anybody was going to get it right, it was gonna be FH, yet they sidelined it to pander to Japanese shit, a lot of which ended up deviating further and further from where they started engineering-wise. I really really hope they find a point to step of the Japan train and go back to G2. Laser Prime still needs a counterpart and there's plenty of rad G2 original shit being that to crack into that they could do wonders with, like the Laser Rods, and nobody is touching any of it. Best we ever get is repaints.
All i want is an updated masterpiece soundwave, probably from maketoys or fanstoys. I know theres been a ton of prototypes, but none actually ever get released.
Ayyyy attack at it again.
Also for some reason Xtransbots is still thinking about releasing the Inferno and friends they sat on for years. How much shit is in the pipe from them now?
>>9311382$125 for Magnusson.
>>9312934>>9312928Well that fucked up.>5th numbered releaseGood lord...
>>9312850Anon you missed the FansToys Soundwave preorder for $250.Last time I checked, Tfsource had a few for preorder but I don't know if they have been taken.
>>9312798You have to remember that no matter what we outside China believe, 3P TFs are primarily meant for the Chinese TF market and they care about G2 much less than the Japanese shit. Then on the other hand you have lots of people, both in China and worldwide, whose connection for TF was started by the Japanese shit, or solely the Japanese shit. These people became loyal FH customers starting with Power Baser and FH probably thought it's better to focus their attention on that segment. I personally don't see them getting off the Japanese G1 bandwagon when even fucking HasLab is jumping on it.
>>9313010Honestly knowing all of this for ages just makes me continue to wish that we had more companies like MMC that are more or less doing their own thing instead of just participating in X wars that's going on at the time.
>>9313012Lol yeah but not even MMC is 100% free from X wars, their Saltus Alternative release was obviously meant as a shot at the current Springer wars even though the old one was already very good. They know there are people out there who'd just buy all recent iterations of a character.
>>9313024Yeah and at least imo it was the weakest thing they've put out since they stopped hiring Sark. Like god damn their Bruticus was groundbreaking despite its flaws and that Defensor is looking great but at least those are exciting new ideas of a kibble free combiner and not ANOTHER Menasor or Devestator that's 50% one giant action master.
>>9312922Thank you god, it’s fucking perfect
>>9312933Surprised he's not like 200$ after seeing Optimus' price. I wouldn't think the price difference between a plastic box and fully transforming trailer is only 5$
https://weibo.com/6199528366/KyfIXdxjeNext set of OSKO Stunticons coming soon
This thread shows a Chinese Wizard's mods for attaching the off-brand MFT KO Hulkie to NA's swimsuithttps://tieba.baidu.com/p/7539023920?pn=1Biggest mod is to Mixmaster, they gouged a huge channel to accommodate the joint
>>9313392Here's another mod that adds a spacer cannibalized from one of the other constructiconshttps://tieba.baidu.com/p/7535618828?pn=2
>>9313562Full pics https://weibo.com/6539026191/KyjzAe7mq
>>9313564Well that's just stupid, the best thing about newage jazz is how the doors fold into the legs
>>9313641So when they make a ricochet, I'll totally get it. I love na jazz too much to switch
NA Prime is about $75-80 on the typical Chinese shops and supposedly coming early next month… I went and preordered finally. Not personally too bothered by the double chest, which is definitely the worst part.Annoyed that I have to buy the trailer but I want the OG colors so it doesn’t make sense to be patient for potential trailer-less repaints. I’ll just sell it off.
>>9313832I'm kinda tempted, I've been using Hybrid Convoy as my small scale Prime for nearly 15 years now but I like how this looks like a tiny MP44.
Bros Ive been out of the TF game for a while now and just very recently decided to get back in. Last I remember there were a million 3P comanies comepting over the MP market , but now the only bots I see announced or boards talking about is Legends class, what happened since I left?
>Finally, PX-C04 will release soon, will update in our facebook when ready! With one new gadget￼ added on too, will disclose in later weeks!P.S. It will come with 2 hand sets ( black & red )
>>9313564>>9313641Jeeze NA carbots are tiny.
AAT John Goodman
I haven't messed with their stuff, how is the quality?
>>9313929Mp market crashed Chug is deadLegends is going the way of the mpFor real though I think a lot of companies were just priced out with the rise in prices and too fierce of competition. Mp is only x transbots and fanstoys with some mmc. Chug is just planet x and mmc at this point (the only reason they're even called chug is because the toys aren't g1 designs). Legends is magic square and new age constantly trying to one up eachother with iron factory ignoring their bullshit.Overall the market is a lot narrower than it used to be, but the interesting stuff is still there if you know where to look>gi joe prime and megs>iron factory >mmc >tfc original jet bots>big tiddy arceeSome really cool stuff that would never of happened years ago
>>9313988Damn the wild west of 3P is unforgiving, but I welcome the change myself, I am gonna try to sell off my MPs and use that cash to make a nice little legends collection, I always found that MPs arent very fun to take off the shelf and fiddle with due to their size. What I would really like is for more companies to take the Zeta Approach and start shrinking their existing designs down to legends (FansHobby RiD Scourge/Armada Megatron/Overlord, KFC Simba all come to mind)
>>9313987Firage was a heavy retool of Battle Blades Bumblebee and aside from being too small and brittle, not bad. This stuff looks MP scaled so I’m hoping fro an improvement, but I’m not gonna get my hopes up.
>>9293059I notice it too, I may not like all transformers built by these companies, but some definitely fasttrack their quality control. Still, only crossposters or the /v/ermin mindset show up here and stir the shit hive.
>>9311382The Chosen Prime used to be competitively priced. Past year or so they've been charging damn near double the cost of chinese sellers, and often the same price or 10% higher than bbts or tfsource.Fuck em.
>>9313988Don't forget actual beast Wars MP with Jiang Xing and TransArt as well as Armada MPs from FansHobby.
>>9313987Old xtransbots quality
>>9314177>I always found that MPs arent very fun to take off the shelf and fiddle with due to their sizeYou're not alone in realizing that, there's a reason fans and 3P companies have been jumping into the legends bandwagon. MPs are great for display, high detail photography and Facebook group humblebragging but they're not that great as toys. I sold most of my MPs and kept only my absolute favorite ones for display. There were a bunch of anons who mixed their Legends stuff with Hastak and 3P citybots, their shit looked pretty good due to the better sense of scale and the fact that the somewhat lackluster articulation on the titans is still more or less acceptable because of their sheer size. Really the only thing they need to do when paired with Legends is to look gigantic.
I like G1 toy deco more than cartoon.
>>9315117Just bought 7 legends bots to get started. Its exciting to start collecting again after getting burnt out on MPs. My last purchase was Zeta Bruticon, great stable combiner, but so unwieldy and massive that he ended up just being a statue and not much fun at all. If Zeta downscales him like their superion I will dump the rest of my MPs and go all in on the lil guys
>>9313832>>9313339Seems it's only TCP at that price point right now. Both TFSource and Toy Dojo have their listings at $100 and $105 (nothing as of right now for BBTS, A3U, or Agabyss).
>>9315193Speaking of...ZC-01: https://www.thechosenprime.com/zc01downthrustZC-02: https://www.thechosenprime.com/zc02skystrike(currently only Stateside retailer with stock received)
>>9315200But...I don't know...
>>9315216Forgot to say:>LOL, gun storage
>>9315217Last of those.
>>9315209Can I probe you for your opinion on Mixmasters legs? Are they as much of a clusterfuck as people seem to think they are?
>>9315282Couldn't tell ya, friend. Those are all TCP's own shots.
>>9315282Not him, but it's more about the instructions being fucking horrendous rather than the legs being consistently difficult to transform. Transforming Mixmaster might have more steps than Scrapper but I find that Scrapper is a lot harder to pull off consistently. More things need to be in line for his legs and it's hard to actually see them line up.
another MS tease of scavenger of bonecrusher
>>9315217You can store the guns on their alt modes. With Mixmaster you don't use the gun handle but the rectangular holes on the side of the gun, and they go on one of the rectangular tabs on the sides of the truck's rear.>>9315282It looks daunting at first try but once you've done it back and forth a couple of times you will realize it's actually pretty easy and intuitive. This anon >>9315302 is right, Scrapper is actually the more difficult one.
>>9315347I saw being able to store them, yes (linking back to the previous image); it's just not in any sort of elegant manner.
>>9315343>>9315348I feel like I've been dying for info on this but it's only been a month since the first set released.
Is the magic square devy also a partsformer?
>>9315440It has about the same amount of partsforming as Toyworld's version.
>>9315343>>9315348The weibo user is trying to point out that the arm connectors are worryingly small.>>9315440yes
https://weibo.com/6476829781/KyjY2FPedYou can put these in your mouth like gummies.
>>9315447>>9315348>>9315343Hopefully there's still the time needed for refinement?
Can't stop, won't stop.
More of the MS Jazz protohttps://weibo.com/6539026191/KykIO8BBD
>>9315343>>9315348>>9315447That is worrying. Hopefully the connection is secure and doesn't lead to breakages.>>9315440Yes, but it's much less egregious than NAs is.
>>9315576this pic means you can attach the gun to the crotch like a big purple dong.
>>9315576>head>forearms>entire pelvisstill pretty egregious.
>>9315518I want that fucking wheeljack so bad, Im salty that I missed the boat on it
>>9315586Just as god intended.>>9315593It's not great, but because Na is so much worse it's easier to forgive MS. Personally I'm more inclined to forgive parts forming combiners when the kibble turns into something. At the absolute minimum, I expect the leftover parts to turn into a trailer or something like that. But NA obviously didn't even try anything like that here, and MSs kibble just clips together, not really transforms into anything.
>>9315603It's only good as a cast list filler. The engineering is like hasbro legends from 10 years ago.
>>9315609Oh NA's is definitely worse, to an almost comical degree, but MS is still an unacceptable level of partsforming for me. It feels like we should actually be trying to innovate on Transformations instead of going back to G1 levels of combiner kibble you know? Especially when there's already been a few Devys that have done some genuinely cool stuff, like fucking TFC nearly a decade ago using the treads of the arm bots as the combined forearms? That's cool, even if Hercules is really dated by now. It feels like MMC is the only company really trying on that frontI'm hoping this era of "combiners" is over soon, and we can get some actual combining robots. The sooner I never see another fucking naked Menasor actionmaster the better
>>9315611Id take the Iron Factory if I could find it desu
>>9315616The problem is these idiots who put toon accuracy above ALL else. I fully agree that the treads as forearms thing is super awesome and a natural innovation of the og design, but because it's not toon accurate, people just don't want it. It's fucking obnoxious.
>>9315616Does tfc Hercules work with a legends display?
>>9315636What is the age demographic for the "tooner" anyways? I'd imagine that at some point there's going to be a big shift into beast wars, bayverse or more realistic styled 3ps in the market at some point
>>9315626https://robotoybase.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=153_162&product_id=5246https://robotoybase.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=153_162&product_id=5458>>9315611>yfw 10 years ago is when Dark of the Moon came out
>>9315220Guy forgot to extend Mixmaster. I wonder how many people are going to get the set and then complain about the legs being different lengths.>>9315447Should be fine, it's only a legends scale combiner
>>9315172That's a really cool display. Whatever version of Fort Max that is looks so much better than the SDCC version I got...plus all those upgrades, man it looks legit.
>>9316012Adapters for supermarket KO Hulkie onto NA's.
>>9316013>THEY TOOK MUH JOB!t. H34 Berith
>>9316009Not mine I just saved it from TFW but I agree it is very impressive
>still no toy colorsWhy even live
Video of MP 52 Screamer KOhttps://youtube.com/shorts/_IRbWZB31NI?feature=share
>>9316013>>9316016It's novel, but I couldn't stand how much the greens don't match up.
>>9317087Yeah, same here tooI'd rather take my chance and wait for a KO of the whole thing rather than play mix and match or play into Legends FansToys greed game.
>>9316009That is the Takara Tomy version with some DNA upgrade kits attached, including the gun. But the sword is the stock one that comes with it.
>>9316013>colors don't match at all>giant holes in the shoulders>shoulder bot treads are uneven>giant hole in the knee>mixmaster leg looks laughably smallHonestly if this is good enough for you, then sure whatever, I'm happy for you, but know that you have incredibly bad taste because this looks like complete crap. The only real improvement is the plug for longhauls hole, but even that still would need painting before I call it good.
>>9318328>>9312922>these guys started making the dreads>still no hatchetAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>9312922>>9318328does he have the shotty tho?
So I bought Fansproject Quake on 9/11, and only now did i get it. Its smaller than i thought, like its sub-legends classIt isnt bad however.
>>9318673My main issue is with how loose some parts are, but thats just what ur gonna get with something this size.
>>9318679It takes only 4 steps, more than some of hasbro's shit at least
>>9318685Here's a fucking penny for scale like holy shit is this small.
>>9318673>>9318679>>9318685>>9318688He has to be that size since his intended use is with their Bruticus bots.
>>9318690Im not touching that. Probably out of stock and like 600 resale
>>9318694It's hard to immediately decipher in my mind, since it's only 2 limbs + bits from them -- the rest comes from owning a version of the Energon Bruticus mold.
>>9318685>>9318688I've never seen a gun with a penis, before.
>>9318646yes he does
>>9318964aight whos making this, how much and how big is it, cause im boutta cop this.
>>9318978Can't you scroll up? You're not a Jehovah's Witness are you.
>>9319080Thats no monky
>>9318985what the fuck is AAT tho.
>>9318328just saw this on ShowZ, I hope it maintains its level of detail, this is really good. I only have one figure from AAT (dino / firage) and like it.
new bread >>9319367>>9319367