A thread for discussion of fashion dolls including Barbie, Disney, LOL OMG, Living Dead Dolls, Licca-chan etc but not BJD.Other toys considered dolls as well as girl collectable toys that are related to dolls or can be used as accessories to dolls are also welcome such as LOL, Capsule Chix, Shopkins, Polly Pocket and the like.Old thread: >>8216489
>>8244264The lavender haired one and the 80’s one are really cute
Cyndi Lauper on the right is the only one worth buying.
>>8243085still wondering. I mean I get that she can be pricy, but are there places I can get 'basic' models?
>I wish MGA would just fuck off with the huge eyed ugly baby faced bitches dressed like cheap whores. It's tiring.I mean let’s be real here, that describes pretty much all of their doll lines.
>>8244266>Modern Malibu Barbie Edition.
>>8244311I want the lavender haired one, she kinda matches with this one I got
>>8244311They all look pretty cool, they're great with clothing design
>>8243620>pre-teen dollsLottie, Kruselings, Tween Scene, Maru and Friends
Mga back after carrying the whole playline fashion dolls industry since 2016
>>8244266when the fuck was the last time Barbie was allowed to wear a bikini that wasn't painted on and not have glittery shit?
I can't, some collector on tumblr and insta are still saying cancel mga and try to downplay the quality of the dolls like girl bye, i hope they enjoy their bmr and color reveals dolls
>>8244648I’ll go with actually pretty dolls over potato sack-wearing SJW trash any day. MGA is still diverse as fuck even then, but Mattel seems to think that wokeness is a substitute for well-designed dolls. It doesn’t matter how many dark-skinned/disabled/fat dolls they pump out, if they’re all wearing shapeless dresses only printed on the front and have thinly rooted hair that feels like straw, no one will want them.I’m officially stanning MGA now because fuck Mattel’s cheap-ass garbage dolls.I saw Mattel shills on instagram defending BMR wave 2’s spotty grainy faceups by saying “Mattel has to cut corners because the toy industry isn’t doing so well right now”Like bitch, MGA has never printed their dolls’ faces like that. Not Hasbro, Moose Toys, Just Play, or Jakks-Pacific either. This isn’t a toy industry problem, this is Mattel’s (and only Mattel’s) problem. Mattel thinks that just because Barbie is the oldest and most established doll brand it means they don’t need to put effort into her or any of their other doll lines, and this mindset is exactly why MGA crushed them with bratz and now LOL OMG.
>>8244266What ever happened to voting for the next design of Barbies and releasing that?Anyways, I've had some success lately saving money by buying individual accessories from Barbie dolls I otherwise don't want on eBay. For example, I didn't really care about the Star Wars Barbies in box, but I wanted the R2-D2 shoes. Got them for $4.00. Now I don't have to spend $100 to poach something off a doll that will get thrown into a bin for eternity.
>>8244648People are so entitled, like did you worked at mga to make that statement, of all the prototypes this one was the least finished it's clear it was a placeholder doll plus these dolls come with second outfit like chile
>>8244544The last time a "swim" related Barbie wore a bikini? No idea. But they have had a few bikini packs over the past 10 years. This one is my favorite, looks great on Life in the Dreamhouse Midge.
>>8244797I regret never buying Life in the Dreamhouse Raquelle.
>>8244807Life in the Dreamhouse line is probably Mattel’s finest. So glad I got most of the dolls In the set.
>>8244311Christ what are those shoes on top left?
>>8244753So do some of these have tip toe foot molds and others have flat foot molds? I really like this line so far especially the knee joints but it would be nice to have some variation in ankle position
>>8244831They arent shoes, there fabric I don't know what they're called but they tie around the thigh and hang over the shoes
>>8244238I'm not loving these for some reason. Not one of them is showing their midriff.
>>8244946>>8244948>>8244950Why do the old ones with the painted on eyes look better than the new ones with the realistic insert eyes? Where's the white one with the pink hair?
>>8244953Wheres the bad girl with the tattoos and the rainbow colored hair that shows off her midriff?
>>8244957Where are the cute trippy Care Bears inspired printed on sad/happy clouds, and unicorn characters on their outfits?
>>8244946Blue one is
>>8244753They went from looking like cute, and fresh pop stars to looking like chunky, grungy, urban, pot smocking burnouts. I'm disappointed.
>>8244311This. The pastel one is also really pretty.
>>8244797LITD Midge is probably the prettiest Barbie ever made, and that line has the best Barbie bodies. MTM is a disappointment in comparison.>>8244807Me too anon. LITD is the first line I ever bought any of.
>>8244969It's frekin nothing. You can't even see her belly button. Plus it's the dark brown skin doll so it doesn't even stand out, and totally goes under the radar of uptight soccer moms.
>>8245015 >uptight soccer moms.Like this Ultra Christian lady who constantly bitched about Monster Hight doll skirts being too short, hated Bratz dolls with a passion because she believed it would cause her daughter to dress slutty when she turned into a teenager.Plot twist: The ultra Christina soccer mom's daughter ended up turning into a trans boy, and now she pretends to still be a Jesus fanatic while going along with her daughters idea to become trans even tho that kinda goes against everything the bible says. People are hypocrites/weird. She also hates the world of Harry Potter because J. K. Rowling said something that was "transphobic">>8244648>i hope they enjoy their bmr and color reveals dollsFun Fact: Uptight soccer moms seem to love the color reveal dolls.>video very relatedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNtrxE8Yby4 The metallic ones do give a cool therapeutic effect when dunked into the water, but paying $20 for a $5 budget doll with molded on cloths, and a shitty wig. Yeah, no thanks.
>>8244946I like the bodies' articulation and proportions but yikes, those heads and facial molds. Probably gonna use the bodies for customization fodder but at $27 each I don't know of I can justify that
>>8244946What's the price point on these going to be? I'm liking the top row.
>>8245336Look at the previous thread
>>8245393Ah. Way too expensive tbf.
>>8244487what is wrong with their faces?
>>8245901nothing? they're just painted with no makeup
>When literal Chinese bootlegs are better constructed and made with a wider variety of fabrics than official Barbie fashionsThe absolute state of Mattel
>>8246694Official products for comparison
>>8246694>>8246710Mattel is practically braindead at this point
>>8244989>LITD Midge is probably the prettiest Barbie ever madeLITD Midge and Barbie Style Midge are honestly stunning. I prefer the hair on Barbie Style Midge just a tad more, since it's a bit more of a soft auburn. Justice for the Steffie mold.
Not sure if this is the right place to ask or not. I bought this doll and his hip joints are extremely loose. Like, when I dress him his right leg flops around like it's barely attached. It's too much of a pain in the ass for me to send him back (got him on amazon)I was wondering if anyone knew of a way to fix this? Or if the cucks at Mattel would be willing to replace it? I heard they usually replace defective stuff but I lost all faith in them when they destroyed Monster High. Just got this guy because I needed some male dolls with articulation.
>>8247065Ugh he's hideous. Burn it and cut your losses.
>>8247065I know there’s tutorials on how to replace leg joints for MH dolls but I don’t know how those dolls are jointed, wouldn’t hurt to complain to Mattel, get whatever you can out of them
I made some rainbow dolls meme
>>8247070I agree but >muh articulationFor what it's worth I got rid of those weird ass clothes and restyled his hair.
where the fuck can I buy azone clothes besides amiami, hlj, and hobby search? A lot of times they don't stock all of azone's shit and azone's jp site I'm not sure even wants gaijin business.
>>8247133kek.Why can't Mattel add articulation to dolls that they charge $20+ for? Zero articulation makes all of their dolls look more budget than they already are. The worst thing they ever did was get rid of the rubber click knees. Not only did they steal some articulation way from their dolls, but they also made their dolls feel light weight and cheap. I hope the few pennies they are saving on rubber click knees was worth it to Mattel's bean counter.
>>8247378bjd sales groups
How is anyone ordering roller chick on amazon??? I packed one today at work but I cant find the listing on Amazon website.
>>8247592>The worst thing they ever did was get rid of the rubber click knees. Not only did they steal some articulation way from their dolls, but they also made their dolls feel light weight and cheap.To be fair, modern click knees can barely bend these days due to significantly less plasticizer being allowed in toys compared to 20 years ago. That combined with the rubbery texture of the legs making it hard to put pants or tights on the doll and I can see why they stopped using click knees.
Tfw you buy a set of Chelsea clothes to get the shoes in hope that they fit your obitsu11They're too narrow in the heel, but fit the fake azone ok. Ughhhh
>>8248325This. Also if you've ever handled a barbie even a modern one whose legs have gone permanently tacky it's gross and ruins the whole doll. I'd rather deal with lighter cheaper feeling dolls than that mess. Maybe they could just glue a nut inside them like integrity did lol
Helen Keller and Maya Angelou are the newest dolls in the Inspiring Women series. Weren't we supposed to get... I want to say Susan B. Anthony this year? Also goddamn Amelia Earhart Barbie is going for $200 secondhand now. Wish I had been able to look past her ugly shadow eyebrow printing.
>>8248518>Also if you've ever handled a barbie even a modern one whose legs have gone permanently tacky it's gross and ruins the whole doll.Is this a risk for LOL OMG dolls? Since they have bend and snap knees.
>>8248550Yes, but not for a good 10~20 years from now when the plasticizer starts to decay.
>>8248673Yeah it likely won't happen immediately but I've had some dolls go weird in as little as 2 or three years. It has a lot to do with QC and environmental factors. I live in a very hot humid place so anything rubber/vinyl has accelerated deterioration here.
>>8248325>To be fair, modern click knees can barely bend these daysSounds like you never seen PreCure Style dolls.>>8248518>>8248703>Also if you've ever handled a barbie even a modern one whose legs have gone permanently tackyI own Barbies from 90's-2000's and that have yet to happen and I live in a hot country.
Found this pretty gal while thrifting today, I've wanted to customize a Cinderella doll for a while now, just rerooting her to have a more strawberry blonde color, and this one has such pretty eyes
>>8248965I've seen her before online and the gem eyes looked creepy, but they're very nice in person, they shimmer nicely
>>8248794>>8248703>>8248673>>8248550It's really a chance thing. I have always lived in hot and humid places, but I used to live in somewhere without cooling except a fan, and now I live in a place with very good AC. Through both of these conditions I have seen an array of reactions in toys, some break down quick even in AC and no direct sunlight, some braved the incredibly hot air and stuffiness and humidity of my old place and are still fine to this day.There's no real precise way to tell when rubbery toys will degrade, you just need to try your best to keep them cool and out of the sun. If you wanna go the extra mile, LED bulbs are less harmful than incandescent or fluorescent too.
>>8248412where to buy fake azone?
>>8249162Aliexpress. Look for Blythe bodies
Now i uderstand why that doll outfit was ugly and all the others baggy
Was browsing vintage Barbies on eBay and saw this that would "blow up" balloons (and more!). Given what Barbie was based on, I guess you could say that this specific doll went back to her roots!
>>8249390kek who thought this was a good idea
>>8248965>>8248970ID on the doll? I love the eyes so much
>>8246985Snagged a Midge in spectacular condition for $16 on eBay tonight. Someone left the listing up for only a few hours, and no one must have noticed. Considering the prices she normally goes for in BAD condition, I feel pretty great.
>>8249342This guy is a real self absorbed asshole.
>>8249712Sparkle Eyes Cinderella
>>8249342Lmfao imagine looking like THAT but making the doll that's supposed to be you look like that. What an egoist
Anyone have these? They generally go for pretty low price and are really artoculated but... That face... Cuz they're cheap I wanted to order a couple but I can't get past the awful face molds
>>8250715Never got one because I also couldn't get past the face
>>8250715Disgusting doll but the clothes are good quality if you want it for Monster High or Ever After dolls and the shoes fit Curvy and Tall Barbie.
>>8250715the actual doll is so ugly, too bad they don't look like the packaging artwork
>>8250715>Do you want a doll with full articulation, good quality clothing, full hair, and insert eyes for just $9.99? Whats the catch ?>Face looks like thisPass.
>>8249390Does she come in blonde?
>>8249342This guy needs to fuck off already. I bet that 99.999% off all the new Mattel dolls I dislike the most can be traced back to this bloated lizard.
>>8247065Update: I emailed them and they are sending a free replacement
>>8251715What's wrong with that doll? I like it a lot.
>>8251719I need this doll in my life. lmao
>>8248965>>8248970Those eyes are beautiful, congrats! Share pics of your re-root if you can.I got really lucky this week, and found a bunch of dolls while thrifting including one of my wish list dolls Meg with her outfit to go with my Hercules doll. Each was a dollar, and I spent a few day fixing them up Also found two older Bratz dolls with a crazy amount of articulation, that I'm having trouble IDing, a 2009 Disney Store Mulan with outfit, a 2018 Disney Store Elsa, two 90s Jasmines with outfits, and a new in box black Wonder Fairy doll to go with my blonde Barbie Wonder Fairy doll.When I said I got lucky I mean I really got lucky. I almost lost Meg due to a dirty Scalper that day. No more than 3mins after I was done selecting my dolls, some lady walked in, grabbed all 12 dolls I left behind, and put them in her cart, and left.
>>8251925Thats a Bratz Movie Starz body with a 2015 Jade swapped onto it.
>>8251925Found an image of her with the outfit she came with, but the image had no description next to it so I still haven't been able to ID her.
>>8251824Nice fabric covers the fact that the garment itself is shapeless much like all of his other dolls having baggy shapeless clothing. I wonder why such an ugly fuck who dresses like a tent is in charge of designing so many dolls that are intended to be wearing fashion. Like we get it, he thinks neon colours, baggy shirts and clunky necklaces can subsitute for good designs.>inb4 someone says Im fatshaming cuz he happens to be fat and decides to wear only gaudy and baggy clothing and dresses his dolls the same wayLike I'm pretty sure fat people get the concept of tailoring clothing to body types, but this fuck just has ugly tastes.
>>8251964Thanks, I found an actual picture of here >>8251965I was able to Id the second doll I found. Shes a Wild West Yasmin.
>>8251970Seems like this is going against the general consensus, but I actually find his stuff pretty interesting. It's definitely outside of the usual four avenues of doll fashion: runway inspired, "urban" streetwear, hyper-thot, or totally safe and vanilla GAP/AE/Old Navy-looking basics. It's definitely hit or miss and I think some things could definitely be combined differently, but it's at least interesting to me. I think with a few additional pieces and a bit of restyling I could really come to like them.
>>8251989Like do you buy any of his fashionistas? Any of his BMR1959 dolls? His Rockers reboot dolls? Like Fashion dolls should really, you know, incorporate fashion, but none of the shit he designs ever feels complete or coherent
>>8252015I didn't say it felt complete or coherent though, just that I found a lot of it visually interesting. I already admitted that I'd need to doctor them up a little to get them looking how I want.And no, I haven't bought a doll in a while, I've had more pressing stuff to pay for. Some of the BMR1959 dolls look kinda tempting though. Again with the caveat that I'd have to do a little editing.
>>8251970A lot of cheap, accessible clothes for fat people are basically just shapeless circus tents in clown colors, so that's probably where he gets his ideas from
>>8252121That's just sad
>>8252121You’d think someone who has to deal with the over sized scraps the fashion industry gives them would be more interested in fashion that doesn’t reflect the bias that fat people can only wear loose baggy clothing
Hey /toy/ senpai that's for pushing me to get new eyelashes for this fakeie girl. I may not be doing anything else to her but it's a marked improvement
>>8251989I used to love his work when he begun, even if they were not articulated the fashionistas were a breath of fresh air, more skintones, returning headmold and then new body type arrived with even more combinations but when diversity became the standard and all the hype died down all that was left was cheap ugly tacky clothes and a brand that was now bland and generic, now i understand why he failed fashion school, he doesn't understand trends and how to use them, every playline dolls wears baggy sackdress with ruffles, empty empowering quote, printed fabric and sneakers, the collector dolls now don't even surpass mga playline and what worse is he will never get better because people will cuddle him and every valid criticism will be passed as hate and nitpicks
>>8244487huh. i like Haiti black girl, she looks fine
>>8248325>modern click knees can barely bend these days due to significantly less plasticizer being allowed in toys compared to 20 years ago.Why are they not allowing it anymore? Is it unsafe for children or is it a save the bees & trees environment thing?
>>8248518>even a modern one whose legs have gone permanently tacky it's gross and ruins the whole doll.>>8248673>10~20 years from now when the plasticizer starts to decay.I do know what you are talking about, but from what I've noticed this is very rare. I must look through at least 15 dolls each week while thrifting for the past 10 years, and I've only seen dolls with oily, and tacky legs about once or twice. >>8248991>I have always lived in hot and humid placesMe too, it's always summer here. I've been collecting used Barbies, and dolls from the 70s, 80s, and 90s from my local thrift store for over ten years now, and I rarely ever bump into a doll with the greasy oily faces/legs issue. I bought one once that had an oily face, and legs because it was a rare Britney Spears doll, and it had it's outfit. I washed the face and legs with ivory Soap, and a tooth brush, and the oil has never come back.
>>8251682Apparently the hair is a wig, looks like good quality though. Still that fucking face, did no one look at the character art and the actual face mold and go "something doesn't add up here"?I ended up ordering Yuki, since she was on sale for less that $5, I'll probably end up swapping her head though
>>8248550At least you don't have to worry about the 80s/90s leg spots problem.Some rubber click knees from the 80s now have spots on them due to Mattel being cheap in the 80s/90s, and recycling a bunch of different types of rubbers by melting them all together to make 80s rubber click knees. Hasbro also used to do this with 80s My Little Pony, and Kenner used to do it with their Ghostbusters toys. Over the years those rubbers try to separate from each other which cause the spots. This is why I despise the concept of recycling, and I'm 100% agents it. If I buy a new item I want everything to be new because in most cases I will be keeping the item decades.
>>8253390>This is why I despise the concept of recycling
>>8253399Yes! When you mess with my dollies you've gone too far!
>>8253431Anon that’s just silly, did they even know the spotting was a possibility
Anyone know a good source for hair for rerooting?
>>8253432>even know the spotting was a possibilityI'm sure all they were thinking was that it was a great way to save some money at the time, and didn't spend any time at all thinking about how it could affect the dolls 20 years down the line. I'm sure they were also given some type of tax break for recycling which might have also been an incentive.
>>8253476That doesn’t answer the question whether they knew the plastic would spot like that
>>8253483Well, I didn't work for Mattel in the 80's so I really wouldn't be able to answer that, and even those who did work for Mattel in the 80s probably wouldn't answer the question for legal reasons. Someone made a really cool looking documentary about Mattel in 2010 where they interviewed people who used to run Mattel back in the 80s. The teaser trailer was uploaded to YouTube in 2010, and it looked really juicy. A lot of inside fighting, and old people still bitter about things and making threats to each other. They were still fighting over things like who came up with the ideas for certain doll lines, and who was responsible for cutting costs. Mattel's current lawyers struck the makes of the documentary down, and they still haven't been able to release it to this day.One thing I can tell you. Mattel doesn't give a crap about the actual dolls. One of the reasons it's so hard to find black Barbie dolls from the 80s, 90s, and early 2000s is because instead of donating the unsold black Barbie dolls to the poor or to charities Mattel opted instead to destroy all of their unsold toys and dolls.
>>8253526I have no doubt that they didnt give a fuck, this was a toy company in the 80s after all, I just doubt they foresaw spotty plastic being a thing
>>8253526>One of the reasons it's so hard to find black Barbie dolls from the 80s, 90s, and early 2000s is because instead of donating the unsold black Barbie dolls to the poor or to charities Mattel opted instead to destroy all of their unsold toys and dolls.This just proves that you have no idea how a product manufacturer actually works. Companies destroy their unsold products all the time. It's not something they want to do, but if there's no buyer, then it's just sitting in a warehouse taking up space & money. It's more cost effective to write off the merch as a loss in the tax returns, then sell the lot for scrap to be recycled. Unlike people, corporations have no innate sense of hoarding.And no, you can't just "give it away" to some charity organization. First, the charity would have to want your unsold merch. There's ALOT of stuff donated to charities that goes unwanted and destroyed by the charities themselves. Second, there's the charitable tax write-off vs. the aforementioned tax break on losses. Whichever one nets the bigger gain for the company. Third is the lost manpower, time, and money searching for this needy charity to give your unwanted merch to. Sometimes it's just best to cut your losses and move on.And yes I know what I'm talking about because I used to work at a book warehouse where we frequently *gasp!* destroyed books.
>>8253694>There's ALOT of stuff donated to charities that goes unwanted and destroyed by the charities themselves.Do you have proof of this? I donate to toy charities every year and I'd be pissed to know they're destroying donations.
>>8253694There are a lot of poor people, anon. I know because I see them every day. Little girls who walk into thrift stores, and are forced to put a $5 doll back on the shelf because the mother can't afford it. The little girls don't even fight or cry about it because they aren't spoiled rich brats, and you can tell they are used to not being able to have nice things. They just very slowly, and sadly walk over to the shelf, look at the doll one last time and put it back. It's kinda soul breaking to watch. There are always churches, and local food assistance organizations who would love to get those dolls to give out especially around the Holiday. I don't know what type of charities go around burning or destroying donations, but most charities I know are constantly asking for toy donations.Those dolls could have made some little girl or boys Birthday or Christmas a little brighter. Just because destroying the toys is the most profitable/logical thing to do doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. It's cold, calculating, and heartless, but than corporations aren't known for having a soul or a heart.
>>8253337It's mostly a cost measure. Hollow legs are inherently cheaper than solid rubber legs due to less material, cheaper to ship due to the lighter weight and you just have less parts and molds to keep track of in terms of "quality control" and costs. I imagine a hollow rotocasted leg is cheaper than having to produce the internal leg skeleton, making sure its set in the leg mold to fill with rubber, having a set amount of legs that get casted wrong and be thrown into the reject pile.Disney Store and LOL OMG dolls both have rubber legs so you can't really say it's a safety thing.It's just another sign that Mattel us scraping the bottom of the barrel firtheir dolls.
>>8253390Regrind. Oh God. The horror of Barbie and [spoiler]small horse collectors like me[/spoiler].
Got LOL OMG Groovy Babe and she has some of the most thinly-rooted hair I’ve ever seen for this line, which is a shame because everything else about her is nice. She has two bald spots on the top of her head right above her bangs and hardly any black streaks. I’ve seen other collectors’ pics of this doll have a fully-covered scalp so maybe I just got a bad one. It’s bothering me so much that I almost want to get another one but I really shouldn’t have to do that.
>>8253849Your aren’t the only one anon, the Groovy Babe I got had an absurd amount of hair fall out, very disappointing considering the OMG I got prior was so nice
>>8253782>Do you have proof of this?I worked at Goodwill. Since most donated stuff is one step away from the trash bin, it's not uncommon to get some really rank stuff. Like shit streaked underwear and piss stained sheets. There's also stuff we just couldn't sell even if we gave it away for free, like old TV's and mystery cell phone doodads. As for toys, there's just alot of small McD's toys that go into the bin because they're too broken or missing most of the pieces. Lots of mangled Barbies with their limbs chewed off got mercy binned.>>8253785Nice activist journalism there, anon. Did your college professor help you or did you come up with that true story all by yourself? Because I can tell you for my Goodwill experience that 99% of the welfare brats that came in didn't act like that. They're fucking loud, obnoxious, and treat the toy aisle like their own playground. Tossing toys on the ground for us employees to pick up. Literally rolling around on the ground and the parents don't say anything.Aalthough most of the parents are off at other part of the store, leaving the damn brats unsupervised. There was no fucking doe eyed matchstick girls at my store. And $5 for a naked Barbie? Where the hell do you live that charges that much for used doll? San Fransisco? Most thrifts sell them for a buck or two. Collector Babs in boxes were priced around $5~10. They were always placed upfront in the glass cases to protect them from your doe-eyed waifs ripping open the boxes and tearing off the doll's clothes. Seriously, you've never worked a blue collar or retail job, haven't you?
>>8253785>Just because destroying the toys is the most profitable/logical thing to do doesn't mean it's the right thing to do.It is.>It's cold, calculating, and heartless, but than corporations aren't known for having a soul or a heart.listen, commie, you can't pay people warmth of heart. you have to make a profit to pay workers. learn some economic.>Little girls who walk into thrift stores, and are forced to put a $5 doll back on the shelf because the mother can't afford it. It's kinda soul breaking to watch.So "soul breaking to watch" that never buy goddamn 5$ doll for them? Did not create a charitable foundation in which people can send toys for poor children? No, you just look, cherishing how good a person you are, right? Funny.
>>8253937>>8253969Take your meds, anon.
>>8253937We're talking about brand new dolls in boxes that went unsold, though. I'm sure any charity would be happy to have those.
where can i buy the doll base for this miku doll. I know that its a modified version of a doll but which one. Also I am sorry if this is not the right thread, I actually never came into this board but my love for this doll sparked me to search for it. So please help a man in love
>>8254661You're not in love if can't even bother to find out where it's sold and what it is with a simple search.
>>8254661It's a Dollfie Dream Hatsune Miku, I think?And no, this isn't the right thread, you want the BJD thread
>>8254661dude. reverse image search is your friend. You're gonna have a hard time buying dolls if you can't do some legwork
>>8253937I resell shit from eBay as a side hustle and at my local goodwill in Texas naked Barbie's are $5 in a zip lock bag and the ones in boxes get saved back and put in the auction case. If you need photo proof of this I can provide it. It's almost like different Goodwill's price their shit differently depending on what state they're in and what they think the community can pay. Goodwill's in Austin charge significantly more for the same items than ones in smaller cities.
>>8254713>you want the BJD threadCheck the catalogue, there's no current BJD thread. Surprise, surprise.
>>8254813I see. I wasn't aware of that
>>8253361I wonder if it's the wild temperature flex that causes it then? I thrift dolls all the time too (Texas) and I run into at least one or two a month that have sticky legs or permanent dents in the legs where they were stored somewhere with other plastic toys and the legs got messed up. You can have frost on the ground in the morning here and 100degree heat by afternoon. I wonder if that effects flexible plastics badly cause it is really odd.
>>8254813Bjd thread died because nobody there wants to post OC cause bjd are very unique and recognizable and being traced back to a board known for raceist /pol-tardation isn't a good look.Plus we had an annoying pro recast anon who was so desperate to validate themselves they shit up every thread.
>>8254813>there's no current BJD threadnot our problem. he can create one.
>>8254661>>8254813https://kiwifarms.net/threads/ball-jointed-doll-bjd-collectors.9436/^This shit is why we /bjd/ is dead and why we don't want you here. >>8254829 is also correct.
God Yuki today, decided I might as well give a little review.Honestly in real life the face mold is more tolerable, I also think Yuki suits the weird face more than other dolls. The hair is a wig that plugs into the back of the head, which is nice because it stays in place well. It's really soft, but there's a little bald spot next to the bangs. Her pose ability is really nice, but the joints are a lil loose. Clothes are nice quality especially the jacket but the skirt is really thin. The stand is clever too, it plugs into the back of the neck so it's more stable. However the phone she comes with is nasty, the decal slides around and it's covered in that nasty glue that doesn't wash off with soap.For getting her on sale for $4.60, def worth it. It's nice that for a doll in the $10-15 range comes with a stand. Wouldn't pay full price though, but these are on mega sale pretty much everywhere anyways
>>8255492I like how even the forumn you posted has totally normal reasonable people shitting on the creepy weirdos (which is honestly what the majority of people in the bjd hobby are, just normal people) Go to the last page of what you linked and you can literally see recast anon trying to justify recasts again and judgeing people for spending 'too much' on bjd lol why are they on such a crusade for knockoffs? I'm beggining to think they work for Luo
>>8254813As the other anon said, they can go make one.This thread is too gummed up with enough shit as is. I just want to talk Barbies and have to deal with a million posts about OMG Surprise or poopsie shit or whatever these things are.
>>8254829It died because you're elitist morons, as always. It would be nice if you dumbass antis gtfo this thread instead trying to shit this one up too.
>>8255973Do you really think there's only person on the internet who is ok with recasts? Recast friendly groups have literally thousands of members. Deal with it and wash the salt out of your cunt
Let's talk about how godawful this years Christmas doll is
>>8256109>>8256123And here they are shitting up this thread too. Hey recast anon how's it hanging? What are you even doing in this thread? Trying to force knockoff Barbies down everybodies throats or are you just lurking because the competition between Jasmin autist brown skin doll hater are too much for you lol
>>8244831Those are her hooves
>>8253526Do you have a link to said documentary?
>>8253785Wow, great essay anon. Sounds like some shit my dad would yell at me when I was little to guilt trip me out of asking him and my mom to buy me toys. We get it, every kid who can’t afford toys is Charlie Bucket and every kid whose parents can is a spoiled brat like Veruca Salt. Move the fuck on.
>>8256166We already did
>>8256476Yes but I was reminded of their existence today and I want to complain with others about it
>>8256478>>8256166When I was 8-14 I collected the holiday dolls and comparing to the beautiful detail and quality on the older dolls and packaging to the recent ones? There's no comparison. This is just sad.
>>8256397imagine being this delusionalstop trolling and get out
>>8256736They honestly look more like dollar store holiday dolls
>>8253390>Lady Lovely LocksWoah flashbacks>>8253468Depends where you live>>8253432It's impossible to know the effects of something if you don't have the time to study it. So, without combining the plastics and then waiting 20+ years to see what happens, you won't actually know whether or not there'll be issues. You can be reasonably certain, one way or the other, but praxis is a very different thing and there'll always be variables that you won't know to account for. >>8253849Eeek, f anon. >>8254829Literally why I don't post my own BJD's to the thread. Need more drama from other people
Cave Club is starting to show up at Walmart
>>8257209In-box pics of Rainbow High
>>8257213New Descendants set. Wedding Mal&Ben
>>8257216They couldn't even give her a plastic bouquet
>>8257209Yes! I don't see it there, but I hope that big dino is coming out with wave 1 too.
>>8257209another doomed doll line. tsk tsk tsk.
>>8257213It looks so different in box.
>found a 2003 licca set for 30 dollarsFeels good, man.Got any tips on keeping dolls and doll clothes safe? Licca become impossible to find again after a few years, I don't want them to get damaged.
>>8257209the cartoon looks like fucking SHIT
>>8257914Looks like a foot fetishists dream
>>8257216I'm not too knowledgeable about wedding folklore, but I do know that white dresses signify that you're a virgin. And Mal is wearing a half purple & white dress. So does that mean she still has her hymen intact, but let Ben stick it up her butt or what? Maybe paizuri since her tits are the "dirty" color? Someone clarify this for me, please.
Oh hey, Jasimne-Anon. I just thought that you may want to look into this over on /h/.
>>8257907I should note that I'm not planning to keep it in its packaging, I'm not a NERD who doesn't play with his toys.
>>8257922Wedding dresses are an overpriced scam, just like weddings, she probably just got a prom dress.
>>8257922Nobody follows that color rule anymore
>>8253476No tax breaks. Regrind generally comes from in-house. For heavily plasticized material like the legs, it'd be more expensive to throw it away so there's no need for government incentives. >>8253792100% correct. Air is much less expensive than plastic, especially elastomers.
>>8257964Did Tutu murder people like Mandela did?
>>8256166Something about the plastic ribbon just encompasses everything that annoys me about mattel right now Like they went out of their way to have a plastic ribbon made, they could have just had a regular ribbon tied around her waist and gave her a necklace, a crown, anything else, but they went with a fucking ribbon
>>8258038I know right? They couldn't save that plastic for another accessory besides those sad dinky earrings and used an ACTUAL ribbon? It looks so insanely cheap and their factory paint looks so generic. 2009's had such glamorous makeup and 2008 even had lashes.
>>8257216Ugh, that dress looks cheap as shit. That plain satin is so boring.
>>8257216I miss ever after high
>>8257213The promotional pictures don't capture how blushy and cute the face looks here. I'm honestly pretty excited for this line.
>>8256166I actually like the face of the Latina one. She is really pretty. The dress is the problem.>>8256736Quality has gone way down
>>8256166>you vs. the girl he tells you not to worry about
>>8257922white dresses signifying virginity is a western christian concept, there's no religion in the descendants universe.
>>8259005The old one even has a softer expression
>>8257216>DescendantsIsn't this EAH rip off line dead yet? Even one of the main kids died recently.
>>8257213What is the Kitty blocking?
>>8257209The colors are hurting my eyes.
>>8256454>every kid who can’t afford toys is Charlie Bucket and every kid whose parents can is a spoiled brat like Veruca Salt.Hes not wrong tho.
>>8253849>she has some of the most thinly-rooted hair >She has two bald spots on the top of her headCrap, I bought the blue hair doll today, and her buns are a total mess. Seems like the machine that ties the rubber bands messed up and the buns are deformed and there are flyaway hairs everywhere. I was going to return her for Groovy Babe, but now I find out that her hair is so thinly rooted that she has bald spots? My Roller girls eye makeup was also sloppy.
>>8257967Hasn't this line been dead since 2015? What did they bring it back just to make that virtue signaling shitpost?
>>8259574because it's safe to do with a dead line. they used bratz to make a pride month post as well. notice how the posts say "bratz supports x" and not "mga supports x." can't hurt sales when the dolls aren't even for sale, right?
>>8244345I have a soft spot for their earlier Lalaloopsy dolls. They came out when I was bitchy ass 14 year old, but I still saved up my allowance for the Mittens girl. I made her shitty outfits too. Lost interest when they started to come out with the crazy stretchy hair and then made it into full on yarn. Kind of miss having their freaky ass faces around
>>8259571Where did you even find the blue haired one? It's an elusive unicorn of a doll. They're listed on Amazon now and apparently you can't even get Chillax until the 21st.
>>8259562It's peak 90s, I fuckin love it.
>>8259628I remember stocking those damn things. The packaging was all askew and made it hard to set aisles with them cause of that extra high point at the top.
>>8259571Machine dont style dolls hair, braids, twist, ponytails and ect are made by factory workers just after the rooting process
>>8259571>I was going to return her for Groovy Babe, but now I find out that her hair is so thinly rooted that she has bald spots?To be fair at least some versions of that doll I’ve seen have slightly thicker hair, but since you can’t see the doll until after you’ve bought her there no way to check for hair/paint/fabric flaws, probably the only thing I hate about this line. I’m sorry MGA but “will your doll be defective or not” is not a surprise anybody wants.
Would any of you pay 100 bucks for this? I personally think its a bit too much.
>>8259571Should complain to MGA like a dissatisfied mother and get a new one
>>8259903Personally? NoBut if some people are willing to pay that price, I don't fault them for selling it for that much
>>8259903I personally wouldn't, but that corset is nice, I dont know how much good quality MH clothes go for
New nanana surprise exclusive fashion dolls, they're rumored to be 69.99 usd two to collect
>>8259903The edges arent even finished.... >>8260008>>8260009Do they have armatures inside? That's actually interesting.
>>8260008I swear I saw one for the black cat girl on Instagram >69.99Yeesh
Does anyone know of some brands or artists who make these kinds of dolls? Like really simple faces but with regular vinyl bodies? I don't know if there's a term for this, but I've been searching for a while with no luck.
>>8259903Doesn't look worth it
>>8260008>>8260009As cute as these dolls' clothing is the faces are just so off to me. I think it's because they focused too much on the "big huge sparky cute eyes" that they made them have almost no sclera visible
>>8260119The faces are better in person t b h
>>8260065She's part of a backpack that turn into a bedroom playset for 39.99 usd
>>8260147Ah fuck that's cute
>>8260137That's fair, that's usually how it goes with weirder looking dolls.
>>8260151Goddamn I want those hats, those are adorable
>>8259842where's the all of the above option
>>8260151Their faces are so uncanny
>>8260085if you want that doll specifically >https://dollsanddolls.com/en/llorens-doll-26-cm-miss-miniss-miss-dana-star/a lot of vintage dolls have that type of face. examples are strawberry short cake, hollie hobbie, Sunbonnet Babies
>>8260151too much makeup for a child
>>8260459I think the smiles are shooped. It seems so unnatural
>>8260151>>8260147This is actually super cute. I love everything about it except the faces...they're like weird alien creatures. With better heads this would be a must-buy for me.
>>8260459That's the same girl twice in different wigs. That or identical twins.
>>8260147How do they scale compared to nendoroid dolls?
>>8259647I don't order stuff online, but I couldn't find her at all at Target. I went to Walmart on Saturday to do some shopping, and saw them all at an endcap. They had at least five to six dolls of each character including Chillax. It wasn't even my local Super Walmart. The next day I remembered that I wanted Chillax's outfit, so I went back on Sunday and bought her. I considered keeping Chillax when I saw how beautiful the first bun looked from the corner of the box. It was an amazing shade of blue, smooth to the touch and perfect. Sadly, the other buns was completely ruined. It was so bad that even the hair it self had been damaged. The rubber band was all over the place, and forever warped, creased, and bent most of the hair. The hair wasn't smooth, but rough. Strands of hair were loose, and hanging off the side of the bun. Flyaway hairs everywhere. On the bright side the outfit was perfect, and the return lady didn't care about them. When she saw how bad the hair was she couldn't stop saying sorry. I told her it wasn't her fault, and got Groovy Babe. When I left there were still four or five Chillax dolls on the shelf. If they weren't so expensive I would have bought another one. I really wanna see if Chillax's outfit looks good on my new Groovy Babe.
>>8260732>>That's the same girl twice in different wigs.Holy shit, you're right. What a difference and another angle and height adjustment makes. And it looks like the wig and backpacks were also shooped in... Badly.
How do I keep my Liccas nice forever??
>>8259571>>8260999Maybe you got a bad copy? I saw all 4 dolls at Walmart on Friday and picked up Roller Chick. Her hair buns and makeup were fine, although the tied ends and bangs were really stiff and needed to be rubbed (even then, I couldn't get it to loosen up completely). Was also bummed that the wheels on her skates didn't roll. I think she looks better with the jacket and shorts than the pants. On the other hand, I'm conflicted on getting Chillax because like you, I want to swap her and Roller's outfits. Maybe I'll wait and see how the other copies are.
>>8261069>How do I keep my Liccas nice forever??You can't. The laws of thermodynamics states that your Liccas will submit to entropy one day and eventually crumble to dust. And that dust will be consumed by the sun when it goes supernova, engulfing the Earth in a unbelievably hellish fire that will atomize everything on the planet in it's death throes. And then those atoms will be eventually sucked up into the massive black hole at the center of the galaxy. To where they will go is unknown, but those particles that were once your Liccas will never be seen in this universe ever again.So take'em out of the box and play with them, you dork.
>>8261117How do I keep my liccas nice for 200 years out of their box??
>>8261126>Find owner of a 200+year old doll.>Ask them how they keep the doll from falling apart.>Do that.>???>Profit!
>>8260732Wtf? That's such a weird thing to do. How hard is it to find another tween model? Also they edited her hight and skin color which is kind of weird. >>8260999
>>8261153Oop, didn't mean to tag >>8260999 in that whoops
Go back to party city where you belong
>>8260471Thank you, I'm gonna order a couple of those Sunbonnet Babies
>>8261078>Maybe you got a bad copy?Probably, but at least I was lucky enough to get what I actually wanted from Chillax. I'm not sure if it's worth rolling the dice again to see if I get one with perfect buns. These dolls are almost $30 each, and the only thing I really like about Chillax were the buns, Spooky box theme, and the outfit. >>8261078>picked up Roller Chick. Her hair buns and makeup were fine, although the tied ends and bangs were really stiffI got mine about a week ago at Target, and she's mostly perfect, but her eye make up is a little off. It's not even a paint alignment issue, but more of a blotchy eye paint issue. It wasn't bad enough to return her tho.>Was also bummed that the wheels on her skates didn't roll.I knew they weren't going to roll because I watched a YouTube video complaining about it before getting her. It kinda sucks, but the shoes are still cute.>I think she looks better with the jacket and shorts than the pants.That's how I currently have her dressed. I didn't even bother taking the pants out of the bag. >I'm conflicted on getting Chillax because like you, I want to swap her and Roller's outfits. I could actually make it happen since I have Rollergirl, and Chillax's outfit. I might actually put the outfit on her tonight to see if it looks as good as the quick image I shopped a week ago. Currently have the Chillax outfit on my new Groovy Babe, and it looks nice enough, but I'm sure it will look way better on Rollergirl.
>>8259565What the fuck are you on about?
>>8261194The neonlicious is kinda cute but Holy shit that alt grrrl one is terrible, especially the wig. I thought it was photoshopped on for a sec.
>>8261126I have this one too, she’s my fav.
>>8261194>party cityThat's where I get clothing for my larger dolls actually.
>>8261278>I thought it was photoshopped on for a sec.You mean it's not?
>>8261126You know why how, anon. Deep down inside you know.>>8261142Silly Mister Punch. Always getting into trouble.
How many female president Barbies will there be before there's an actual female president? Sad shit
>>8261354They are actually quite lovely. You do have to remember to dust them from time to time if you don't move them around often. I don't know why, but I forget to dust them when I dust the rest of my collection. It's almost as if I forget that shes a doll, and needs to be dusted as well.
>>8261388Oh, god No. Oh please, god why? Not this shit AGAIN. The ones from 2016 still pop up mint in box at my local thrift store, and most of them were still on the shelf a week before my local Toys R Us closed down.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Se8PVZdfPg
>>8260969Taller and thicker
>>8261223No problem! Just be aware that the bodies tend to be the hollow plastic type. The doll I have was in a box the was a 'honey Amy' doll but has the same face mold as the sunbonnt babies. Kinda weird
>>8260471I was ok with her not have a nose or mouth, but those canned ham hands, and sausage fingers. Everything else looks cute.
>>8259763>sausageLooks like the lady working on my doll must have been drunk then.
>>8261347OH wait upon second inspection it totally is shopped on. How hard would it have been to just wear the wig..?
>>8259806>I’m sorry MGA but “will your doll be defective or not” is not a surprise anybody wants.This! The Groovy Babe I just got has a sewing defect. The thread is all bunched up in the front of the outfit, and it's straight up distracting.
>>8261502Groovy Babe seems to be a reoccuring bad quality doll
>>8259705>It's peak 90s Peak 90s colors were more neon / pastel colors.
>>8259903It's not even showing midriff.
>>8261327Are you that Big Doll anon from several threads back?If so, you still need to show us your collection.
>>8261517This is the worst collage I’ve ever seen attempting to capture the color palate of a decade. Also some of those pics aren’t even from the 90s.
>>8261545>This is the worst collage I’ve ever seenLets see you do a better one than. Neon/pastel colors were the 90s.
>>8261327i really hope you're female, otherwise this is top-level creepy
>>8261585Doesnt make it less creepy t b h
>>8261585>creepy>>8261588>creepyDefine 'creep', and why it is viewed as being negative or bad.
>>8259842>2020>I am forgotten.
>>8259927>Should complain to MGAWhy would anyone wast their time on hold to speak to MGA? Just take the doll back to the store.
>>8261626I assume you can also send an email but I dont know how their customer service is
>>8257927Interesting . . .
>>8260147I already have both these dolls tho. Am I supposed to buy them again at $70 a pop just to get a pull out bed? I'd rather just buy one of the large cute plush pillows featured in this video.
>>8261575You could have kept it at the authentic 80s/90s toy pics and skipped the random top center pic of the 2010s tumblr thot and poor attempts at “80s Halloween costumes”, but good job otherwise.
>>8260151I like the back pack idea, but whats up with the Slave Leia chains straps?
>>8260459>faces are so uncanny>>8260702>smiles are shooped. It seems so unnaturalThe MGA Na! Na! Na! girl just has a natural big ass smile.
>>8260392Unless they put wire in them they would never stick up like that. Even the bunny ears on the doll will bend back.
>>8259533>a softer expressionThis is why I love collecting thrift store Barbies from the 80s, and 90s.
>>8261767They're just chains anon, they're probably there to look more chic
>>8261613a man with child-sized dolls dressed in revealing clothing around his home... hmm i wonder what could be creepy about that
>>8259842You're the most annoying by far. No one here cares about fakies, get lost already.
>>8261772No shit? Wires or not they'd be cute anyways. Not sure what your point is here
>>8261818>child-sized dollsWho said anything about the doll being "child-sized" ?
>>8261517>Peak 90s colors were more neon / pastel colors.Neon? Check.Pastels? Check.What were you complaining about again? Their clothes are even heavily patterned like several of your pics there (The Zubaz and Saved by the Bell).
>>8262051So when can we expect these in stores?
>>8262062Well, someone posted an in-store display above, so technically now? IIRC these were supposed to launch at the beginning of June. They're also up on Amazon now, but I'm not sure if they're being scalped or not. What is proper MSRP on these?
>>8261252>Currently have the Chillax outfit on my new Groovy Babe, and it looks nice enough, but I'm sure it will look way better on Rollergirl.Agreed! I think it’s because Roller’s hair goes better with the pink accents. Can’t wait to see it!
>>8259842Man I voted Jasmin autist but looking at the results my vote was wrong. Jasmin autist can at least hold a conversation. Raceist anon and recast shill exists solely to fuck up threads.
>>8261327What doll is this?
MGA should have used Alt Grrrl’s glasses mold for Groovy Babe, the large round lenses are way more 60s mod style than the weird pointy glasses they ended up giving her.
>>8261575the center girl with pink hair is mid-late 2000's trying to look 90's, not real 90's
>>8261575>irridescent backgroundI grew up in the 90's and didn't see that until the 2010's
>>8261575I see an off brand Jem halloween costume in there and that was 80s. Whoever made this collage is a retarded zoomer who was born in 2003.
>>8261575There, I fixed it.
the flintstones funwear outfits are also quintessentially 90's
And these fucking hats. Every little girl had a hat like the doll on the right.
90's strawberry shortcake knockoffs
>100 dollars for a Rey doll that doesn't suck piss straight out of my assi'm gonna cry
>>8263057>Pink Bismuth Betty & Purple Drank Diana
>>8263057There's more. They're called sweet scents dolls.
>>8263118Don't worry, anon. If Rey's shelf-warming status in the regular SW lines is any indicator, this Rey doll will soon be on deep clearance within a year or two.
>>8261575>that collage doesn't even have any denimwtf, anon
How do Cave Club dolls scale compared to other dolls? They're cute but their outfits look shit quality.
>>8263217>their outfits look shit qualityTo be fair that’s a given with most dolls produced by Mattel after 2016. The only recent line of theirs with nice outfits was Creatable World but the very concept of that line was doomed from the start. (inb4 “ur just a transphobe”, I don’t hate the genderspecials but spending millions of dollars to design manufacture and market an product line that less than 1% of the population even wants is phenomenally stupid)
>>8263241They should have released one tranny doll with several wigs and released more if the first one actually sold. Producing a ton of them was a retarded waste of money.This is the only good genderspecial doll.
>>8263182That pic of Britney and Justin is from the fucking 2000s. I swear you guys are just using the first several pics that pop up on google and not doing enough research.
>>8263437grandpa's mad y'all
Did anyone end up finding these in stores? I still haven't seen them anywhere.
>>8263523Second one is literally Clawdeen, that’s a pretty blatant rip-off. Amazon says this line is set for an August release but even if it was cancelled nothing of value would be lost
>>8263016Nice!>>8263182Justin and Britney are 2000s, but also nice.
>>8263188Baggy MC Hammer pants for you and me.
>>8263532>nothing of value would be lostSpeak for yourself. I will gladly buy up this articulated line with detailed clothes compared to the shit that is on shelves now.
>>8263523God, I hate modern day dolls, and their outfits so much. They always frustrate me because they are so close at capturing something I would actually like bu than fuck it up. The three in the middle look like they are wearing something Shakira would wear minus the hottness.
>>8263558>I will gladly buy up this articulated line with detailed clothesNot that anon, but if they make you happy enjoy them. >>8263532>Second one is literally ClawdeenI can see it.
>>8263057>>8263142>>8263156If these knockoffs were affordable aka cheap, I'd so collect a few. They are cute cute cute.
>>8263523What are these from
>>8263523The two on the sides look like lame Disney Channel star knockoffs.
>>8263596I think it's from some generic live action show/movie for tweens.
>>8263532She’s a werewolf too, like they were not even trying to hide it
>>8263026I found the Barbie doll in the middle complete with outfits while thrifting once. Took me a long time to ID her. At one point I almost gave up and thought the the dress was custom made or something.
>>8263118Why isn't Rey being portrayed by a Strong independent YASSS QUEEN SLAY Black trans woman of color like 3cpo?
>>8263664>Strong independent YASSS QUEEN SLAY Black trans woman of colorThis description would have been more inclusive if it would have mentioned a wheelchair, and a peg leg. Your silence is deafening, and I'm literally shaking right now.
>>8263644>She’s a werewolf too,No. Now you're just making things up. Someone get Mattel's lawyer on the phone.
>>8263038I wanted one of these mermaid dolls so bad ;_;
>>8263712I wish I was joking https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-QbgcsPGuo
>>8263629The character is the star of a Disney Channel movie... so... yeah?
>>8263725I thought you were making a joke and literally read it as "Disney's ZOOMies" twice before reading it as Zombies.
>>8263629Whoa is that a Sharpay doll? I neeeed it
>>8262864I'm working on my own custom OMG LOL dolls. I'll try to share pictures in the next thread.
>>8263747Yep, it's a Sharpay's Fabulous Adventure doll.
>>8263754Oh look, that's a nice looking-GOD FUCKING DAMMIT WHY DO THEY KEEP MAKING MODERN DOLL HEADS XBOX HUGE???
>>8263766Need the good ol’ Monster High head shrinking method
>>8263769With a doll based on a real person, you shouldn't have to.
Because this thread is on auto sage and OP of the new thread is a fag:>NEW THREAD>>8263757>NEW THREAD>>8263757>NEW THREAD>>8263757
>>8260008>>8260009are their heads plastic now?
>>8263026That Skipper could make a great Galko-chan going by her hair.