>>10730970That's her social anxiety tumor.
I'm not one of those people that really cares about joints in articulated figures (I care more about poseability rather than aesthetics to a degree), but even I'm sitting here wondering why they made those things so fucking big. Her legs literally don't need to be designed like that. The fuck?
>>10730970It's fucking over.
I feel like figma is the only line that still makes good figures. Every other either looks like shit or has the weirdest fucking engineering
>>10731130right?
>>10731130They still make figures?
>>10731130Honestly I would just start looking into Girlpla model kits. The price is usually the same or sometimes less, you typically get more plastic for your money, and they're a lot easier to customize/have a healthy 3rd party parts market.
>>10731225>3rd partySo like bootlegs?
>seething*yawn* figmachads just can't stop winning I guess
>>10731186Far less than they used to but that doesnt change the fact most other companies barely make stuff im interested in. Ill finally be getting a modern Revoltech with that Panzer Jaeger at least.
>buzzkeks
>>10731156oh nonono
>>10731231no he's talking about unofficial shit that is made to customize shitThe problem with girlpla is that it's fucking bland and koto's faces are awful
>>10731130Figmas engineering is not good, figuarts mogs them.
>>10730970>Whinging about how a knee joint looks from behindWho fucking cares? Unless it looks terrible from the front while bent, this doesn't matter.
>>10731890Oh I see what you mean, bootlegs
I got her. I don't care.
>>10732129Fucking kek. I'd hate to see the trash you've wasted your neetbux on.
>>10731156genuine gore-like feeling
>>10732158 My toys are better than yours, I guarantee it.You won't even post a pic.
>>10732197Is that wholesome 1/18 scale kino joytoy in a epic 1/12 display?
>>10731130Last figma i bought has shitty engineering on biceps that couldve been fixed if they actually put an aounce of effort on their end. They should stick to basic anime figures if they still cant do basic shit like this.
>>10732197>he actually paid money for a 1/18 guillimanFuckin kek I knew it'd be bad
>>10732197That head is way too small 1/18 is such a fucking shit scale jesus fucking christ why couldnt it be 1/12 scale
>>107322121/12 primarchs would be 16 inches tall.
>>10732210>he didn't post a pic as predicted :^)
>>10731130yeah figma is hands down the industy leader. Everything else might as well be chink bootleg in terms of quality.
>>10732334>figma is hands down the industy leaderCurrent day Figuarts absolutely shits on Figma. Figma used to be solid before they made every release 120+ dollars and have seemingly refused to innovate their sculpting or engineering in almost any meaningful way.
I know the poster above is just baiting but>and have seemingly refused to innovate their sculpting or engineeringJust because I'm curious, is there anything innovative going on in either SHF or Figma? You could say that about Revoltech, but both SHF and Figma figures don't seem to do anything groundbreaking with their engineering.
>figuarts>shitting on anything but itselflol lmaooooooooooo even
>>10732509yawn
>>10730970figma does the same
>>10732510exactly
>>10732509god that looks like shit
>>10732484SHF might be absolute garbage but so is Revoltech until they release better Yotsuba figures (I still love them)
>>10732509looks pretty badass, can't wait to get her>>10732541>>10732550kek, faggot
>>10732197>grey knightsNeat
>>10732222Well desu I dont actually collect toys I just come here for the lego and warhammer threads and to laugh at insane retards like you
>>10732764>loudmouth faggot doesn't own toys but spends his time here anyway offering unsolicited opinionsWhat an utterly embarrassing admission. Why would anyone beta-orbit this hobby? Lmao.
>>10732774It is still somehow better than actually taking part in this "hobby". Fucking lmao hobby. OH man to have your level of delusion and self grandeur. It must be the only thing keeping you from necking it.
>>10730970thumbnail looks like she's pulling up her skirt
>>10732778>i hate toy collecting!>spends obsessive amounts of time shitposting on /toy/Legit mental illness, go lay on someone's couch and talk it out.
>>10732509man that face is disgusting. Is bandai even trying?
>>10732445Is figuarts really that good? I almost got gaslight by figuarts shills but figuarts qc and plastic is definitely worse than figma. Their engineering is a lot less standardized than figma which is definitely cool but I rarely see this actually translate to better articulation than figma and this also sacrifices how universally head swappable figma are. Figma is overall just smoother to pose. For eg the leg hip connection on figuarts tends to rock around too much.Dont get me wrong figuarts is clearly still an excellent import grade line and when it comes to photoreal faces or male figures theyre way better than figma, I just dont see how the overall finish, durability and smoothness of posing is comparable to figma.
>>10732764What are you a warhammer modeller or have youve been kicked out of every community out there for being an annoying faggot and want to grift off this one now? The other anons are right beta orbiting any hobby is fucking pathetic.
>>10732783I really don't spend much time here I'm a /tv/ regular. >>10732787I don't even know what you're referencing lmao. I don't care for filipinos. >>10732822I almost entirely lurk I don't know why I'm bothering with this thread besides being shocked at the shitty models people defend here. It's not even my passion like you autists so it's just even more mind boggling I somehow have a standard higher.
>>10732908coomers don't belong here either
>>10732916I'm not even a janny what is your autism over that? Jannie would have banned your thread hours ago like the other boards would. Obviously he doesnt care.
>>10732509Man I thought suletta and miorine finally broke the SHF curse of “only buy the bugmen and the spicball figures”
>>10732900>"I have higher standards">Has no models, no toys, no nothing besides a shit opinion.
>>10732961I have a tupperware container filled with legos I'll take a picture next time I'm in my mom's garage lol. It's a bit of a walk from the basement here.
>>10732509AHAHAHAHA WHAAAAAAAT THE FUCK IS THIS TRANNY ELF
>>10730970Are the joints supposed to be oblong, or is that just a warping of the pic?Considering how Figma knees had traditionally worked in most of the line, this looks better in terms of sculpt preservation and making the notorious jutting knee when bent a thing of the past the only benefit to the old layout was knee-swivel from how the joint plugged into it, but a proper thigh swivel should do that already in most figures. It’s when you have figures with visible asses line Aqua or Ryuko that can complicate the design, but even still it’s doable if you just lose the thigh swivel to mid-thigh and have said thigh with a simple circle for a cross-section to preserve the sculpt still.Kinda bummed Figma is switching to soft goods for skirts and the like these days, since the soft thin plastics looked better, but hey, still a better choice than the hard plastic shells that Figuarts usually does.
>>10732509>figma>shitting on anything but itselflol lmaooooooooooo even
>>10732900anon the board for boredom faggotry is /pol/ not this slow as fuck board I dont know why you would waste your time here when youre not even invested in toys. Surely laughing at Israel rn is way more entertaining than this board.
I see no reason why this structure is necessary for the shoulder joint.
>>10732197Those armored figures kick ass and the revoltech Venom is the cherry on top. But holy shit that golden dude skipped head day, should just leave him with the helmet on if he comes with one.
>>10732197>>10733120Primarchs having fuckhuge physiques in proportion to their heads is lore accurate isnt it?
>>10733098You're the smart one trying to be reasonable and turning me away to some shit board. /pol/ has so many bots and unbridled autism it's not even worth it. A decade ago the containment board was just that
>>10733120Big suits make ur head look small, that's 40k for ya.
>>10733129>>10733158Yeah, it's still kinda goofy. Regardless of that they're still rad figures.
>>10732509She looks like she's about to sneeze
>>10733148I think the comfy happening generals are the only uncompromised threads there everything else are zog golems, globalist shills and three letter glownegroids. Many of the posters are from Israel so I wonder if recent events has cut down on the volume of subversion being spammed there.Still dont get why youd choose this board. Since youre /tv/ why dont you go banter with /co/ or /a/, something somewhat media related? Or are you going to admit theyre all turboautists even by 4chan standards and this board is the only one even giving you coherent responses?
>>10733178Bro he is an invasive turboautist, just look at his garbage posts itt. He probably only likes this board because it's slow enough to farm (you)s and isn't competing with 100 other shitposts per minute. There is a trend where the worst posters on this board never post pics of their toys for a reason.
>>10733110It gets really good range and worked well for most of the Demon Slayer figs since they had a cloth haori that would just hide it. But for the others, it's so fucking ugly and it really limits the range without look just ass fucking ugly.
>>10732484SHF has done some good stuff lately. Chainsawman moves incredibly well, the new hip designs they started using a year or so ago looks really nice and gets just as good range as uglier setups that do the same thing. They've mostly been improving the appearance of the joints rather than the range. They just put out so much shit they clearly cheap out on some releases and just don't give them the engineering they need. Like why does Luffy's knees barely hit 90 degrees? It's One Piece, it's not some small who knows if it'll sell franchise. And then they have the upcoming Goku this month that has sculpting detail everywhere, joints (mostly) sculpted into the body well. They're just all over the place. Figma hasn't really done shit. They use mostly the same joints since day 1 and ten years ago they made a big deal about a 2.0 articulation system that was nearly identical, and they've made maybe a dozen figs using double jointed knees or elbows.
>>10732484Wouldnt really call it innovation but Figma is not doing nearly as much anime girl figs as they used to and pushing their sculpt and detail work to the max with more vidya game characters (armored fromsoft bois for eg). They are also trying new joints in place of their classic universal joints for anime girls and it looks like shit. Marvel legends tier ab crunches for example. There is nothing wrong with the classic figma joints especially on their anime girls dont fix it if it aint broke.SHF is expanding their line outside of just shounenslop which means they might actually release a figure I give a shit about for once. Otherwise they continue to reinvent their engineering from the ground up each time they make a couple of figures and Im not sure if this results in actual improvements.I would need to own a revoltech to judge it but damn do they look on a wholly different level from any other figure maker.
>>10733187>Just all over the placeThat sums up my impression of Shf engineering. Its technically better than Figmas but they never seem to have consistency and combine all the best features all into one figure. If Figma joints are standardized to insane lego head swap levels, then Shf is way too fucking unstandardized like the WW2 French tank industry.You notice its superiority with male figures who benefit from stuff like butterfly joints but with female figures, Figmas simple system is more than adequate enough that you dont really notice Shfs specialist engineering making them function any better.
>>10732509>>10732520Why is SHF so bad at making toys? These are the worst toys I've ever seen of a character. And that engineering on that elf lol could as well be a statue. Absolutely emberassing. No wonder figmachads are laughing about them.
>>10733180True, he admits himself he is from /tv/I cant fucking stand all that goyslop media. At least anime is still able to provide escapism and with toys you make your own reality and fun.
>>10733362I think its the corporate bloat and inefficiency that inevitably comes with a company as massive as Bandai. Bad executive decisions for eg shit IPs that obviously wont sell, tight as fuck deadlines, the use of glossy cheap transparent plastic for cost cutting, all the wildly varying engineering between figures presumably because collaboration and knowledge sharing is stifled when you get so many different teams doing their own projects.Max Factory as a smaller group very wisely decided to standardize on joints to save costs and maximize efficiency down the line but theyre nonetheless small so their output is stuggling and their jewy cheapassery is just as bad as Bandais.
>>10733190>There is nothing wrong with the classic figma joints especially on their anime girls dont fix it if it aint broke.don't tell me what to do
>>10730970
>>10734306Im so curious, why go back to ab crunch? whats next, wrist hinges?
>>10734363>wrist hingesI fucking hate that trash. My first ever figma in the 2000s had a broken hinge out of the box.
>>10732509oof that looks like shit
>>10732509hey im an out of towner but My experience with sh figuarts was good at least with the Tiger and Bunny line.What makes this model shit?she typically is expressionlessit just looks very clearn to meyes im retarded but if you have any specifics as to whyFor me i gave up on figma a long time ago because they are just garbagei personally like this look because the joints arent extremely glaringalso do you guys recommend any rotating platforms for your figures?
>>10734363>whats next, wrist hinges?maybe next time, for now ugly elbows
>>10734427>What makes this model shit?it's just the pathetic attention whore who doesn't buy toys trying too hard to get (You)s>also do you guys recommend any rotating platforms for your figures?this one has worked for me:>https://aliexpress.com/item/1005006063065415.html
>>10732509shf is such a dead line lol
>>10734441What the fuck is with those disgusting elbows?First the marvel legend abcrunch, next the biceps held by pure friction, and now this?
>>10734454yep
>>10734457>mold lines on fingers>cumstains on armor>that armyikes indeed
>>10730970She has nice knees
>>10734454>SHF 124 upcoming releases>Figma 42 upcoming releases
>>10732509>>10734457haha wtf is this shit? Why would anyone butcher them like that? SHF really is a dead line
>>10734490they are bottom of the barrel for sure. Low quality slop. No QC. All kinds of issues.
>>10734073They have banned him for three days a few times before. You can always tell because there's a mass deletion of posts where he's talking to himself and the board becomes significantly more peaceful in his absence.
>>10734495also notice his blatant samefagging and falseflagging, pretty pathetic, but what can you expect from a pathetic attention whore who doesn't buy toys?
>>10734518>who doesn't buy toys?I mean, you don't have any either. That's why you always use other people's pics.
>>10734528Prove it, and while you're at it, post your toys with a message, I dare you bitch.
>>10734549Are you gonna do the same? I will if you do. I've seen you issue this challenge 100x and never provide your own receipt.
>>10734368Exactly why I dont like messing with my guts figma, those wrist are prone to breakage.
>>10734306No Max! Why you do this???? Arcueid didnt deserve this.
>>10734474>Shf not making Pepesha
>>10734549>post your toys with a messageAs you can see, he can't. He only make shitty excuses because he doesn't buy toys.
>>10734688>>10734764>>10734765
>>10734846Well shit now I actually have faith in SHF being able to make up for the lack of waifu figures left by Figmas decline.
>>10734802>SameFaggot is still pretending everyone else must to do this, but not him.
>>10734427>What makes this model shit?People were clowning on her face but I think she looks fine and accurate The articulation, though... The cloak and skirt on her are probably gonna be really restrictive which means you'll only get really basic standing there poses I mean, it's kind of fine since I don't think she's super athletic and does the splits or anything crazy but it's always nice to have the option when you buy a figure
>>10735372I mean, with posts like those, it's no wonder they ban you for racism lolBut yes, they were really lenient on the usual spaz and shitposters around this board for a while. Now things are better but sadly the sperg has ways to get around bans and just keeps posting as usual The sad part is there's also mass reporting on posts talking about this sort of thing, so chances of catching a 3 day off-topic ban for calling out the shitposter are higher than him being away for 3 days no matter how many times they try to get rid of him >>10733110Looks like it might act as a pseudo-butterfly joint to give good range on shoulders. But it is a little on the uggo side, yeah
>>10735379>with posts like those, it's no wonder they ban you for racismI'd be considerably less racist if there were no subhuman niggers around me. It's not my fault.
>>10730970I have an inflammation knee fetiche, I need this toy in my life
>>10734441I'm not very fluent in joints. What's exactly the issue with these? Don't really look any worse than the usual figma elbow joints. Do they break easily or something?
>>10735775Nothing. There are just better looking alternatives. In these cases it doesn't really matter but people just like to shit on all kinds of things because figma makes better looking toys than other brands regulary.
>>10732509bandai just can't make toys
>>10735775Some nice anon explained elbow joints to me a while agohttps://archive.palanq.win/toy/thread/10665209/#10675564
>>10735775Everything. There are just better looking alternatives. In these cases it doesn't really matter but people just like to point out how figma makes pretty shitty looking toys than other brands recently.
>>10733070it gets worse.https://youtu.be/t98R8l9-FCc?t=702>literally falls apart as you touch it
>>10736397Atleast it just popped apart and went back together without kuch issue. It's probably like that because of the swappable suit. He also didn't seem to have much issue with it after. Probably didn't put it together correctly in the factory.
>>10736411It pops off constantly in that review.And a figure that keeps popping apart while you try to pose it is barely usable.
>>10736436I mean it's an issue with SHF too and those cases didn't even have swappable parts like sanji torso or zoro. If you gonna cherry pick at least try harder anon.
>>10736447But anon Inosuke is swappable, they'll release his Bankai parts as a separate release
>>10736447>don't hold figma to the same standards! we need special exceptions for max watanabe because he's a good boi
>>10736447https://youtu.be/ftY3-ueDoNA?t=158it's obviously just meant to be battle damage accurate :^)
>>10736456>goalpostingI didn't expect anything other from a shitposter like you. You actually want it to be easily replacable with swappable parts. On the other hand shit from shf that doesn't have any has no excuses of falling appart.
>>10736465>You actually want it to be easily replacable with swappable partsThat doesn't mean fall apart as soon as you touch it even lightly. What the hell is wrong with you guys?
>>10736470agree
>>10736480>thats a current year figure>live >official streamyeah...
>>10736480Yes. Vs >>10736463 and >>10736397
>>10736480I still can't believe they published this. It's not like the people watching are expecting the absolute maximum range of articulation to be shown, so if you feel resistance just stop...
>>10736519we just can't stop winning sis high five
>>10736524now THAT is fucking garbage
>>10736524so true
>>10736534that looks good though sis? Our shitty toys will never looks this good ....
>>10736524you just cant stop winning
>>10736536YAS! our 1980s elbow hinges will win the show! us figmachads need no standards
>>10736539shiieeet those looks nice. I wish our toys wouldn't look like fresh 3d printed garbage with visible mold lines
>>10736551who?
>>10736543>posting more good toysgetting really desprate aren't we sis?
>>10736555>ritually blinds self to ignore all the low-quality shit figma churns out with shit popping off, hinge engineering from 40 years ago, marvel legends ab crunches, attachment pieces breaking, tumor joints in the elbows and back of the knees that they've been putting in them for over 10 years now, hand rack pegs breaking off inside of the hands and forcing people to drill new holes>"WE ARE WINRAR CAUSE I CANT SEE THE SHIT FIGMA DOES ONLY OTHER COMPANIES DO BAD"Just sad. So far in denial I may as well be replying to a brick wall.Have a good one.
>>10736564>tumor joints in the elbows and back of the knees that they've been putting in them for over 10 years nowI know this is in the middle of a flame war with the faggot autist shitposter, but what's a better alternative? I'm not that well versed in toy engineering but the figma balls look far less offensive that other shit I've seen from the majority of angles. Can you give examples of joints that have the same mobility but look less conspicuous?
>>10736576Figma occasionally does double joints on figures. See: the Fluted Armor. Those generally tend to look a lot better than the huge discs sticking out of the front of the arm and back of the legs.
>>10736564An example is this. Surely it's probably more seamless sculpt-wise than the standard figma elbow, but I don't really know if it looks any less garish.
>>10736583Their new Elden Ring figure also has it. No joint is going to be seamless, unless you're going for the inevitably doomed seamless overlay meme (which is bad), but there definitely are things that are less jarring than massively bulbous joints sticking out of the figure.
>>10736583>Fluted ArmorI mean, yeah, but it's not like it would have mattered wouldn't it? It's an armored figure. Ironically they did not use the big blobby joint on a figure where it wouldn't have mattered but they stick it on figure with bare arms? Why?
Yuzu has a double joint here, a bit skeptical on how it's gonna look 'cause they've hidden it on most promo pics
Vtuber, Berserk and One Piece figures were a mistake These three shitty licenses being acquired has turned this shithole into /v/ but for manchildren who get into e-peen brand wars over toys It was bad with Marvel and Star Wars and Transformers but they stuck to their shitty generals and shitposted about poor cheap toys and rich expensive toys Now it's entire threads and generals dedicated to saying "my brand QC-ridden mess of a toy is better than your brand QC-ridden mess of a toy!" while in-between the posts, some autistic schizoid freak shitposts endlessly in barely coherent english and tries to play both sides because he knows retards will fall for literally any bait
>troll got banned againdamn what a shame>>10736564you are posting close ups but it looks actually pretty decent. Every figure with that face print method will look like shit if you take a photo like that. I can start posting all starwars figures if you want and how shit their faceprint is. At least educate yourself before shitposting
>>10736606>>10732520here some anon was already ahead of his time it seems
>>10736604Not wrong about that.
>>10730970Why can't Buzzmod do it if another line has been doing it since its inception?
>>10736610actually I just looked some up and ... don't
>>10736615What spammer?
>>10736543This is so bitter sweet for me, because I wanted this figma, but likely won't be able to afford it, but now with those atrocious elbows, I'm significantly less sad about missing it. Hopefully Kiara has sexy thong under her skirt, with great ass tech, and no bloomers.
>>10736606>just hide it in the dark, bromy sides!
>>10736729you are mentally ill anon but you knew that already
>>10736729right?
>>10736749Griffith... easy on the botox
This thread is alive more than the figma one.
>>10736919>figmachads busy playing with their figures while shfsissies would rather shitpost instead play with their toyssad
Anyone else collect SHF and Figma, and have had little QC issues with either over the years? My only gripes with SHF is their avoidance of female characters and lack of effect parts with every line besides Naruto, while my gripes with Figma are lack of interesting reveals lately as GSC turns more toward Nendo/PUPs and the price hikes. I've been happy with 99% of figures I've gotten from either line.
>>10736922By playing with your figures, do you mean having tea parties?
>>10736923There is no such thing as little QC issue with SHF if it's a clear design flaw. Yeah the ones I bought don't have any because I bought for that same reason. There is no such a thing as a prodcut or line without QC problems now and then. Cars have them. Graphic cards have them. Everything has them. It's just faggots pretending to be better than others despite being just as shit if not worse.
>>10736929no I'm making my figmas rape my shfs
>>10736933girls cant rape boys
>>10736938you might wanna duckduckgo the definiton of rape then
>>10736941No matter what they tell you, a girl with a dick is actually a dude.
>>10736931I guess it helps that I don't really pre-order anything anymore unless it's a limited exclusive/P-Bandai. FOMO doesn't work on me and I've been able to get pretty much everything I want for retail or less on release or a few months after. That way I can wait for reviews and avoid disasters like an exploding Zoro or Nanami.
>>10736948I don't have any "female" shfs so I don't have to worry about that
People that simp for brands are genuine faggots. If it's a good figure, then it's a good figure, and if it's a bad figure then it's a bad figure, brand doesn't guarantee any of these things.
>>10737149NO SHUT UP STOP BEING REASONABLEWHAT THE FUCK OS WRONG WITH YOU?
>>10737149This. It's silly.
>>10736923I collect anything that appeals to me regardless of brand or IP. Figmas been pretty impeccable when it comes to quality. Figuarts not so much, ironically Ive had way better experiences with Bandais AGPs. Figuarts announced lots of cool shit recently, Snail Shell did the same a few months back and Figma still makes quality figures even if they produce 50% what they used to. Shit is very hype and it would be a good time to be an import toy fren if it werent for the rape prices and the retarded globalist Zog wars ruining our economies.
>buzzmods are now being sold at amiamithis changes everythinng
oh fuck that Gibson looks so nice...
>>10737440real talk?
>>10737453that bocchi the rock figure is being sold at amiami, not other buzzmodsit's probably a one-off thing
>>10737440why wasn't it before?
>>10737488buzzmods are aniplex store exclusives
>>10732445>Current day Figuarts absolutely shits on Figma.In the vast amount of IPs, yes.In terms of quality...not really.
>>10732816>smoothness of posingThis, everyone can make fun of figma's weird joint choices, but they are smooth and fun to pose and handle. SHF is generally a coin toss for me.
>>10733110It looks like it would help with poses that involve crossing arms, like holding a gun. I personally can't find any fault with having a joint like that as long as it can pop back in. I like having options.
>>10733187Having the same joints does have its benefits (not really defending their lack of innovation). You can replace (broken) joints easier and it allows for part swapping. At the very least you can swap heads, which is always fun.
>>10736923> My only gripes with SHF is their avoidance of female characters I want SHF to stay from female characters.
>>10737440>10k>barely includes stuffuff...
>>10737948>but they are smooth and fun to poseprove it
>>10737959what body is this
>>10738388Super Sonico figma but with different head, lower legs and a vest added to the torso
>>10738331>Prove itOwn one and find out yourself. Its self explanatory.
Hahahaha>arguing about whether Figuarts or Figma are the best figures>shows examples of only the shittiest figures>neither line is consistently good or consistently bad>shit-talks often better and regularly improving Chinese figures>ignores the superior engineering of other linesThis whole thread is just Battle of the Shitposters
>>10738468Who shit talked Chinafigs here? Theyre wrong but I didnt see any in this thread.What country are Buzzmod designed and made in by the way?
>>10738468Storm Collectibles shit on both lines but it also triggers every schizo at the same time
>>10732197There's something about the joytoy 40k range that reminds me of megablock figures. They all have manlet proportions. The guardsmen especially look fucking retarded.
>>10732509looks about the same quality as the painfully generic literally who cares anime its based on. Surely the chaff like this gets tossed over to the intern team.
>>10738488Yeah, you're right, it was just the sperg in this >>10732334 post.The fact that was the only thing you had a problem with kinda proves my points.
>>10738572have you ever heard of "heroic scale"
>>10738730Even chink bootlegs are getting pretty good. I bought the bootleg 1000toys masterchief and its just straight up better than the Jazwares spartan collection stuff despite being 25 bucks. If anything people should be laughing at western toys.I was an early adopter of Damtoys too, they hadnt quite nailed anime girls then but boy those Damtoys were top quality its the Japanese that are emulating them with Dragon Horses figures and figma styles. China is king of cloth.Currently ordered Hasuki and Manatee Industry stuff. Excited to get them, getting Snail Shells Milk Tea gave me confidence that the Chinese finally could make competent anime figures.Now for me to get Pepesha so SHF can prove to me they can also make competent anime figures.
>>10738737I collected 40k for about 15 years yes, look im sorry I insulted your toyline but the move to "true scale" to match Forgeworld was good and these 1/18 figures just seem stubbier than ever.
>>10738807100%Most original IP Chinese figures are tits.Damtoys and LimToys are the names that come to mind, but honestly there are lots of companies that have only brought out one or two great quality figures.The Damtoy's drawman body is the basis for most custom figures these days. I have Damtoys Solomon Plan and VToys Cyberpunk Robin and they are really impressive figures.Excellent cloth goods, heaps of accessories, competitive pricing, great articulation and they just look cool as shit.I'm actually sad that neither line came out with the additional figures they had planned.Then you have ToyNotch who make the outstanding AstroBots. All of their articulated figures are just spectacular and I have several, with more on order. They also have a lot of exciting things coming out soon.Take a look at the 3rd party figures coming out of China. The Mask, Batman (various types), Solid Snake, Resident Evil figures, The Last of Us...none of them are licensed figures but all are fantastic.China is getting very close to being one of the market leaders in 1/12 and already are in 1/6.I mean, check out the knockoff Bulma with her motorcycle, looks really good, even when directly compared to the SHF.
>>10738730>>10738807>>10738993Honestly I agree. I got bunch of shitty bootlegs and all of them are better than my shfs. It really came full circle. Like the paint they use is straight up better and the plastic seems to be sturdier too. And unlike most shfs the joints aren't loose and are even kinda squaky because of the friction. To the point they can stand on one leg.
>>10738845>these 1/18 figures just seem stubbier than ever.that's because they're lost their best sculptor and brought a new one to do the line.The Nuns and Kriegmaesters were actually given regular human proportions. The upcoming Cadians were given the proportions their newest non-Warhammer lines have.People like that shill are doing massive damage control to squash criticism and are just pretending the styles match up with the minis, because Joytoy has been fucking up the scale for their Warhammer line to make the production cheaper.
>>10731890>koto's faces are awfulKoto's faces are almost universally lauded for how good they are. What?
>>10732509She looks pretty accurate. What am I missing here?
>>10739099glasses and taste
>>10738807How good is the bootleg on its own? First I'm hearing about it and I've almost pulled the trigger on the real thing many times.
>>10739077>that's because they're lost their best sculptor and brought a new one to do the line.Citation needed. I find it far more likely GW asked them to hew closer to the miniature proportions.>SHILLS SHILLS SHILLSOh, it's you, never mind. Reminder that JoyToy is still making 40K figures whilst McFarlane's line is dead.
>>10739099the only real problem is that she's not gonna move for shit unless the skirt is made of rubber or it has cuts that are not visible in the picture (doubt it)
>>10739095>Koto's faces are almost universally lauded for how good they are.They look like crappy moeblob emoji
>>10739115>GW asked Joytoy to switch the style in the middle of the line to match the style to JoyToy's own toylines>implying the proportions even match the minis styleslmaoCan you be anymore of a shill doing damage control?Check out the style for this non-Warhammer figure that matches the Cadian's soldiers. Other figures in this line don't have these WOW proportions so it's pretty obvious a new sculptor.Big hands and feet, plus thick limbs ≠ WH40k midget proportions.
>>10738388>>10738397The lower legs & vest are from a racing miku figma (don't know which year tho).
>>10738468>superior engineering of other linesCan you give us some examples?
>>10734441she still cute, gonna buy her anyway, maybe will fix her Elbows
>>10738845>the move to "true scale" to match Forgeworld was goodopinion discarded, your 15 years have taught you nothing
>>10739231Sure. Bear in mind though that this completely ignores IP.Mafex is one, but, like SHF and Figma, it's not consistent. Sentinel is the one I was thinking.1000Toys. 'nuff said.I mentioned ToyNotch Astrobots in another post.I'll get blasted for this but Revoltech have been constantly improving on their engineering. Tbh though their figures are still not for everyone, although they are so much more accessible now.Figma engineering has stagnated and Figuarts is like a rollercoaster depending on the IP.I like, and own, both SHF and Figma btw (and enjoy them) and buy across lines.
>>10739398>I'll get blasted for this but Revoltech have been constantly improving on their engineeringWhy would you? It's generally agreed that AY has some of the strongest engineering in the game right now, and they continue to try new things. It doesn't always work out, but that's how self-improvement works. You make mistakes, you learn from them, you try again. I much prefer that to boring, dull, safe stagnation.
>>10732197>Chinesium
>>10739412>shitty peg knees that pop off>fix it with ball and socket joint>go back to shitty peg knees
>>10739459you have made a fool of yourself by not reading that post in full before replying. either that or you have zero reading comprehension skills, pick one
>>10739412>Why would you?By sensible people? I wouldn't. I completely agree with your post. I was referring to this >>10739459 kind of bullshit.
>>10738492>Storm Collectibles>shitYes.
>>10739665still way better than anything SHF ever made.
>>10739672>play-doh sculpting>peeling paint
>>10739486>>10739625Cope.
>>10736586Not actually eye soring to look at if you pose him
>>10739347they look good with proper sized legs dude
>>10740202I can't wait for my Fio, these look so good. My only gripe is I wish they'd come with more faces.
>>10740264Fio looks like shit. She looks more like a cosplayer than the actual character and the were too busy giving her a blow job face than giving her proper face plates. It pisses me off that the guys are stylized pretty well and the women are just genetic bimbos. I already have enough generic bimbo figures, I want an accurate depiction of one of my favorite childhood games.
>>10739163So you don't have any actual evidence and are just coping, got it.JoyToy killed McFarlane 40K. Seethe.
>>10740330I know, I agree with you. I would have liked her to be more cartoonish and with at least a couple more expressive faceplates. I would have been a lot happier if she were made after the older MS games instead of MS7 - not even after the goofy portrait in char select but at least like she was is in-game would've been great. But despite everything, the figure looks great, the soft goods are outstanding, and that's pretty much the only Fio action figure that will ever get made in the foreseeable future. She was my go-to pick for years.
>>10740383I mean Metal Slug Awakening. That's pretty much how she was redesigned in that game. Soulless if you ask me, but again, even completely thottified they're not selling out 'cause nobody cares about MS.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7KWz7l3jl0
>>10740385Fuck retarded notoys /tv/ faggots who should go back.
>>10740330This is my feeling exactly. They pandered to coomers and I fucking hate it. I wanted a goofy cartoony Fio that matched the guys, not blatant coomerbait. The girls don't even look like they came from the same line, even the soldiers got the proper stylization.
>>10739112The bootleg is a nice toy in its own right. I dont have the real thing but I can tell the articulation has been nerfed, there are no butterfly joints, no ab crunch and no toe hinges. Its posability is still better than any western toy you can imagine or your average anime girl figure.Its pricepoint is the same as a normal Hasbro Marvel Legends or Starwars yet its got plenty of competently applied paintapps.My main gripes with the bootleg is the way they redid the neck and torso engineering leaves some gaps and all the weapons come with a serious case of bent out of the box syndrome you always see in domestic toys.I like to imagine this bootleg is what domestic toys could be at their full potential, like a Neca that doesnt break and has more import level engineering. Youre basically paying 25 usd for something western toymakers would charge 60 for.
>>10738993When was Soloman Plan released? I thought Damtoys sadly discontinued 1/12 scale products>>10739002Which good bootlegs were these? I recently saw a bootleg of figmas 416 and it was hideous so I figured most bootlegs are still to be avoided.
>>10740802Oh, shitty bootlegs are still out there, make no mistake. I think a lot of people get confused on this--actual bootlegs vs. factory seconds. I have owned some very nice factory seconds, which are "real" figures with a flaw or two that made them fail QC. Bootlegs, on the other hand, are as bad as they ever were. These are usually recasts, often with degraded articulation or engineering changes. Detail will often be softer and paint apps are usually garbage because there is no oversight. Accessories may be missing too.I used to buy quite a lot of these things. A lot of the time it's a dice roll too, you never know which you're going to get. Eventually I quit that entirely, it was a huge waste of money. For every good figure I saved money on, I got two I had to throw right in the trash. And yeah, they're cheap, but all that wasted money adds up.
>>10740802Damtoys are not just alive and kicking, but coming out with new product quite often.I have Solomon Plan in storage atm, but I can tell you he is an excellent figure.eg:https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Search?SearchText=Damtoys&o=4
>>10738993Meh. I see a lot of stuff like pic rel on catalogs and the quality sure seems really good but I always get the feeling that they've got terrible articulation or extremely basic engineering, especially the seamless stuff. Like Marvel Legends tier.But aside of that they always look kind of bland and have just one faceplate. Even when they get their hands on licensed characters they're basically just making a generic doll in cosplay. It's probably less of an issue if characters have a mask or look sort of generic on their own like the guy in your pic.Not sure about celebrity face sculpts, those look photorealistic but I actually find that stuff super tacky, I'd never buy a real person's figure.I'm still waiting for something nice that will actually get me to buy. Say this figure here has fantastic soft goods but the sculpt and the face are such a nothingburger I just can't buy it. Also 1 generic dead eyed doll face. That kills so much of Chinese made stuff for me even if the quality is probably better than Japanese stuff for the price.Companies like Snail Shell etc. seem to be the exception t b h
>>10741061DamToys is expensive, but they make some seriously impressive toys. They are among the highest quality pieces in my entire collection. Their unique retro grunge look (thanks to artist Coaldog) also sets them apart from generic stuff like this >>10741091
>>10741231>it's Ashley Wood 3A but with different faces
>>10741416It may be a similar vibe, but Damtoys is worlds ahead in terms of both sculpt and definitely in clothing quality. There is zero comparison, ThreeA's cloth goods were usually pretty clumsy and rarely undertook complex garments.
>>10740796Sad they nerfed some articulation but I placed an order on it. Thanks for bringing it to light and hopefully mine has good qc.
>>10741231>death gas station series
>>10741091I know what you're saying but you're lumping completely different toys into the same pile.When considering Chinese toys you have four basic categories:- seamless body, excellent clothing, few (but decent) accessories, bland faceplate, but with smooth and genuinely good articulation.- unlicensed figures based on films or tv with great likenesses and lots of accessories. Because of the various companies involved the quality varies. eg the Last of Us figures are excellent with great articulation and quality, the Scarface figure is a cheap abomination.- stylised art-toys, like the Death Gas Station series, Bean Gelo wwII figures, and Crowtoys Samurai Beetles. Excellent clothes and accessories. Articulation varies from good to excellent.- soldier figures. Tonnes of accessories, excellent clothing, usually great articulation.- 3rd party transformers, vary in quality, but often better than official products. Sometimes by a huge margin.- Robots. Heaps of new robots have come on the market and they look incredible. Toynotch's Astrobots are some of the best toys in 1/12 scale in terms of quality of build and articulation.- bootleg SHF, Figma and 1000toys Synthetic Human. Generally poor, you literally get what you pay for.If you like the look of a Chinese toy then do what you should do with any toy; look up reviews, videos if you can, look up previous releases from the company.DamToys, LimToys, NOTAToys, ToyNotch, VToys and JoyToy have all proven themselves as reliable companies with great products.But new companies are entering the market all the time and, honestly, most of them look very good.>>10741420Agreed 100%
>>10735379>so chances of catching a 3 day off-topic ban for calling out the shitposter are higher than him being away for 3 daysYour posts have been insanely obnoxious to read so I'd say that's fair, if anyone's getting banned it should be both of you
>>10741091I've bought two front-line girls because they look like junji ito characters but the figures better be fuckin good for that price, I only just picked up a few clothed 1/12 but I was impressed by the Tunshi metal slug boys. Some of the clothing seems good on the joytoy ones. I'm hoping I can collect some props and do light junji conversions on these
>>10740796Who is that girl on the right?
>>10732941I thought the Ranma-chan figure was pretty good, as well as Freyja Wion.
>>10745623ARMS NOTE - ToshoIincho-san - FigmaI have her and for a modern figma, she is a great example of how good figma can be if they weren't lazy. Her aftermarket is not the worst, but is a bit pricy.
>>10746143not him but I just grabbed the last stock on sale at €49 at plazajapanreally cute figure, ty
>>10730970Do people really give a shit?
>>10743132I got banned for calling out the trolls too its very infuriating. One janny must be intentionally trying to sabotage this site.
>>10746143Wish all figma were as advanced as her.
>>10750461What does she have over figma? Are you talking about engineering?
>>10751136-Good amount of accessories compare to the price (retail price)-good range of articulation -butterfly joints, drop down hips, double knee joint (stuff you rarely see in figma)-hefty, larger body compare to your average anime figma girl-good QC (don't remember seeing anyone having an issue with her)
>>10754420Damn that's nice. I'm looking forward to her. Though judging by the delays, she'll probably get delivered in January.