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Posting Coal Edition

Previous thread: >>10619561

This thread is for the discussion of scale plastic (and resin, PE, wood, etc) models kit
-Post photos of your builds in progress and your finished builds
-Have your builds critiqued or critique others
-Discuss tips and techniques
-Ask for advice or give advice to others

Always remember:
>No manufacturer is purely perfect or awful (except for Starfix). ALWAYS research your kits before buying.

Some helpful guides to get started:
https://www.scalemates.com/
http://www.mediafire.com/view/1vf1aw7v91pz5pa/Airfix%20Model%20World%20Specia%20%28Scale%20Modelling%20Step-By-Step%29.pdf
http://www.scalemodelguide.com/
http://www.modelersite.com/en/area/98/scale-models-techniques
http://fichtenfoo.net/blog/model-tutorials-and-in-progs
http://ipmsstockholm.org/
https://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/
http://www.primeportal.net/home.htm
https://www.flickr.com/photos/156268995@N04/albums

Plus there are tons of people on YouTube with pretty good videos on techniques etc.

Some sites to purchase models, extras, and supplies:
>ebay
https://www.dersockelshop.de/ (GER)
https://www.scalehobbyist.com/index.php (US)
https://www.alfahobby.se/ (SWE)
http://spruebrothers.com/ (US)
https://freetimehobbies.com/ (US)
http://www.hobbyeasy.com/ (HK)
http://www.luckymodel.com/ (HK)
http://www.hlj.com/ (JP)
https://www.modellbau-koenig.de/en (GER)
http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/m/ (JP)
https://www.hannants.co.uk/ (UK)
https://www.jadarhobby.pl/index.php?language=en (PL)
https://www.bnamodelworld.com/ (AUS)
http://volksusastore.com/webstores/scale/ (US) (Carry Mr. Color and GaiaNotes paint)
https://www.emodels.co.uk/ (UK)
https://www.wonderlandmodels.com/
https://www.super-hobby.com (EU/UK/RU/US/PL)
https://plastmodel.pl/ (PL/EU)
https://agtom.eu/en/(PL/EU)
https://exito.site/en_GB/index(PL/EU)
https://m-zone.pl (PL only)

Jannie feedback for really, really big retards:
https://www.4channel.org/feedback
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I bought the cheapest airfix spitfire kit on amazon for under 10 dollars. What am I in for?
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>>10636368
>What am I in for?
A cheap Airfix kit.
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>>10636443
this is the kind of quality posting that keeps me coming back to this general

I guess we're 2/2 in accordance with the thread theme
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I’m convinced the reason the F16xl wasn’t chosen is that the hard points are fucking garbagely spaced and can’t be filled with anything bigger than a mk82 without taking up the space of every neighboring hardpoint
>whoa it’s got 8 hardpoints per wing
More like 2 after fuel tanks
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>>10636057
dust gets inside
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>>10636504
>he doesn't buy display cases
ngmi
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>>10636505
Not him but how can I play tetris with my models and cram as many as humanly possible in a limited confined space if they stay in cases?
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>>10636505
dust gets inside all the same (slowlyer)
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>>10636504
buy some compressed air
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>>10636511
>his house is this filthy
N G M I
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>>10636517
Yea, buy some Compressed Air© by Mig Jimenez™ for €40 per 250ml can
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>>10636543
I think I will get some Mr. Compressed Air GX Extra instead
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Somehow got glue on my finger and touched the model. Is there any product that removes excess glue?
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>>10636451
ill met its the same melanin-enriched gentleman answering my question >>10635238 last thread
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>>10636568
Nightshift has probably shilled like five different superglue debonders this year, so yeah there are quite a few.
As for removing superglue from hands, rubbing some WD-40 never failed me.
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What is the average nationality/age of model builders? Don't see or hear any people my age talking about it.
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>>10636607
nobody below the age of 50 builds models judging from the shows in my cunt. Or maybe they just don't display them
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>>10636607
breh, i started at 9 or 10, stopped, then picked it up again at 16, stopped, then picked it up again at 35.
>>10636626
>my cunt
>mfw
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>>10636649
to be honest, Australian hobby scene is super expensive so no surprise that only 50+ers can afford it
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>>10636568
If it was plastic glue - no. The "glue" just melts plastic, so there's no going back other than sanding and refilling.
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>>10636607
Asking for a nationality is retarded. Obviously it's going to be
1) Skewed towards countries with actual functional economies and living standards
2) Skewed towards countries with longer scale model scene histories - Japan, UK, Spain (for god knows what reason, possibly because they were left out of WW2)

As for age, I've seen kids, I've seen old, I've seen 20 somethings, 30 somethings etc. It's not tied to age, but US/UK boomers do have a bloated presence in purely military scale models. Younger folks tend to be into wargaming and/or DnD as well or exclusively much more.
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All you modelers and the people on Youtube over overweathering your models and nobody wants to acknowledge it.
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>>10636790
But I do acknowledge it
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>>10636790
I overheard some boomers at the model shop complaining about youtubers overweathering their models.
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Damn, model building is hard.

Any of you niggas had success with "glazing" figures? Nightshits made it look so easy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoN2m_c-wfY
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>>10636607
I legitimately think that this hobby will die with milennials
I have not seen any zoomers on model shows and the zoomers in the shops are just dragged in by their parents
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>>10636866
can anyone become as good as this guy with enough practice or is he just super autistic?
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>>10636866
Didn't necessarily come out that well, but if you aren't a figure painter as such its does work and its probably the easiest way to get something halfway acceptable to go with a vehicle.
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>>10636905
So how do you do it?

Mind you, I don't have these fancy-pants Citadel and Vallejo paints, just good ol' Gunze and Tamiya.
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>>10636910
I watched his other video on it.

Anyhow, its not a new idea really to the model painter. Spray it black all over. Spray it white from an angle. Then use thinned paint over it so it keeps the light and shade from underneath. Takes several thin coats, the trick is knowing when to stop. Stay within the lines. That is about it.

The only tip I have is that when I've done it the layering makes everything super gloss, but just hit it with a coat of flat at the end.
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>>10636892
yes
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>>10636921
Thin with what though? Water? Mr. Color Leveling Thinner? This glaze medium bullshit I just got?
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Been years since I did models. Rebuying everything. This hobby is fucking expensive.
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>>10636950
I just thin it with water.
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>>10636981
go to the store for the mountain dew, you lazy fucking shit
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>>10636996
Bulk is cheaper you boomer.
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>>10636981
>he didn't buy the Mig Jimenez® water flavored water based thinner
you are destined to fail, mi amigo
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>>10636995
Just a word of warning, if your paint is thin enough the first two coats say will look shit. Its a question of building it up.
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>>10636607
I'm 35, UK
Built a few as a kid but then started getting vids on Youtube recommended and it seemed really relaxing.
It is and it isn't.
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>>10637041
I've thought about creating a model building youtube channel and just making the worst things you've ever seen. Cutting my fingers, spilling paint, tearing the stickers etc. Go for exact opposite of what everyone else is pushing out.
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>>10637048
I'd watch it
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Just had a gigabrain idea I might try out later.

Flecktarn, Waffen-SS pea pattern, JGSDF camo, etc: sponge-technique. Like how you do paint chipping.
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Copper-enriched, track-wheel assemblies dry fitted on.

>>10637048
Sounds more like a video than a channel, though I guess the latter will be needed to present the former.
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Does anyone else feel guilty when they put together a really well engineered kit? Almost like you're cheating?

There's times I'll be in the middle of some high end Japanese kit and feel like I'm putting legos together
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>>10636568
vms superglue debonder
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uchronian nazi shit is the most embarassing trend to ever plague the scale modelling community, whereas down-to-earth alien AFVs are a kino fad, change my mind
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>>10637058
Brilliant idea anon, I'm impressed, never thought of it.
What's next, a fork but at the other extremity there's a spoon?
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>>10636981
You don't need those metal palette cups, cleaning them is a pain in the ass, just cut a piece of aluminum foil and make concave indentations, then throw it away when you've exhausted it.
Also, buying from amazon is retarded, supplies from scale model e-shops are much cheaper.
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>>10636910
You need true acrylics like vallejo or AK for that kind of job, if you're going to use a paint brush. tamiya works like shit, I know from experience
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>>10637200
Yeah, my second attempt was dogshit too.

Tomorrow I'll try spraying the "glaze" instead of brushing it on. Maybe that'll work.

>>10637172
Eat my shorts, faggot nigger.
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Can someone mechanically inclined help me here. What material are these parts usually made of. Stainless steel? Wasn’t sure if they were susceptible to rust. Was planning on doing the drive shaft in metal/gray color, but didn’t know about these housings.
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>>10637448
it's for the coal truck? doubtful it was stainless steel, that shit was very expensive back then
aluminium also unlikely
leaves us with thin cast iron?
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>>10637611
M25
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Why is it always “American bomb pack” with 2 each of 8 types instead of “GBU-12 16-pack”
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Fuck I am doing a 1/700 ship and I don't know if I want to have it on pedestals or not
If I do well there's none in stock in my country besides the Pontos ones which cost like $30 for a pair
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>>10637167
TZD

>>10637200
This, don't believe retardered-anon's lies. Yes you can brush paint Tamiya, but it will look like shit.

>>10636910
>Citadel
Overpriced shit
>Vallejo
OK

If you want good all-around paints, go for AK 3rd Gen. They do well with both brush and airbrush and have the most consistency across the range meaning they all cover fairly well, they all have the same viscosity, same matte finish etc. Before someone spergs out - yes there are paints out there that are better in one category or another. But I've yet to see a range with this level of consistency between all paints.
As for how to paint figures easy, do a zenithal as other anon explained - black or other very dark base coat - white or other very light coat from above - brush in the base tones - glaze/layer up the bright spots. And you're pretty much done.

>>10637058
For 1/35 just use a brush like a normal human being. It will look like a camo that has been sponged in otherwise.
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>>10637667
>>10637448
aluminum or cast iron, but usually full of leaked grease and caked-in road dirt. It's a really particular type of crud specific to transmissions. I'd go with a darkish meatal color and heavy dark weathering.
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>>10637668
Sounds like justification to buy a 3D printer.

Once I finally get mine everything I build will be sprinkled with MOLLE/ALICE packs, jerry cans, AKS-74U's, razorwire drums, etc.
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>>10637792
TZD?
what does this have to do with my post?
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>>10637830
I like it. Thanks for the suggestion
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>>10637792
Google the word uchronia mate
>>10637964
Maye you should’ve said alternate history instead. Also something about Poe’s law.
Either way my entire collection is (unmarked) prototype and failed tanks so I guess I’m an alternate history builder?
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>>10637949
bruh, you can make jerrycans with much less effort and cost using bluestuff
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>>10637990
How good jerrycans do you get with bluestuff casting?
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>>10638020
in /35 they'd be good enough, certainly less of a half than fucking resin
but overall getting plastic+pe cans to build yourself are probably the cheapest in terms of effort-time-money combo
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>>10638084
>less of a hassle
t. phoneposter
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Well, got this kit for under $15 today and I want to try my hand at doing a car kit properly. Sure it's a stripped out racer with no clear glass parts or a real interior but for starting fresh I think it's a good initial practice model. Gonna clean the flashing and maybe some basic subassembly before priming.
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>>10638399
you got robbed, son
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>>10638399
i wouldnt pay 5 bucks for that
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>>10638400
>>10638432

Then what in your opinions would be a good car kit for the price?
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>>10638443
maybe something from ICM, although they're in 1/35
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>>10638399
build it, have fun, tamiya next time.
you might be better off selling it, some of those kits fetch good money despite being dogshit
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>>10638493
Noted, thanks.

>>10638495
It's a newly printed kit - on the ink-printed date on the roof underside it says 3/15/23 - and the normal going price is only like $25 which I can find on ebay for the same price (before shipping).
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How well does model brand primer from a can go on? I sprayed some tremclad primer (from a can) on my last model and the texture was very rough.
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>>10638501
>It's a newly printed kit - on the ink-printed date on the roof underside it says 3/15/23
That's the date of the re-pop, the tooling is from 1975.
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Finally finished this kawaii boi here, after some months of break. It was not as bad as i expected. It is the Kowosomething Prostestuff kit.
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>>10638692
That explains the atrocious placement of the ejector pin marks I had to sand/fill.
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>>10638657
Its OK, I use Mr surfacer (1000?) you can do quick swiping blasts or slower closer blasts, it's still fairly controllable.
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>>10638716
the dogshit job on the canopy is quite distracting, but otherwise well done, thread pic material
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>>10638817
Yes. But if you do enough of them you start to like it. It's insidious that way, like watching episodes of the original series Star Trek.
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>>10639240
>thread pic material
cringe
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>>10639304
It's certainly good practice with sanding and filling. I need to get better sanding sticks that can reach odd angles, the markings on the underside of the roof (which I filled in only for practice since they won't be visible from virtually any angle on the finished model) were a real pain to get at.

The kit itself so far hasn't been too bad, mainly just removing mold lines and flash. The exhaust pipes have so far been the worst part, very poor fit and a giant gap running down the large pipe lengthwise that required a lot of filler. I got some sub-assemblies put together last night and everything has gotten a coat of primer, so after work I'm going to put down the base coats and see how things shape up, as right now it's looking like the majority of the underframe is going to be a lot of black/gray (gunmetal frame, black rollbars, aluminum floorplate/firewall, and chrome engine/exhaust with red detail headers)
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>>10639575
>I need to get better sanding sticks that can reach odd angles
Sometimes when you can't reach a sanding stick, scraping with a curved blade can work well.
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>>10639562
Post builds
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>>10639240
thanks, there is a literal skill issue for me regarding canopies, i got called out for this on at least 2 builds, seems i can't cut masks for shit and stuff keeps getting under and fucking up the plastic.

>>10639562
meh
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>>10639611
Have you tried liquid masking?
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>>10639636
well my wise, anonymous friend, you just might have given me the solution to my canopy problems. Just so happens i have some artist's liquid mask, and I'll totally try it for the next build. Thanks!
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>tfw every week have a "crush" on a different modeling subject
This week it's a Caucasus-front Panzer IV.

I've never built krautshit in my life.
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>>10639767
>I've never built krautshit in my life.
you ain't a true hobbyist, then
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>>10639845
Can you even call yourself a scale modelist if you don't have a 1488 strong King Tiger/Panther Vgh... GroBgermanivm tank army?
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>>10639704
You're welcome and good luck!
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>germany
baka
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I've never read an in-box review that said that a kit is bad, they're ALWAYS at least somewhat positive.
Conclusion: in-box reviews are always a complete waste of time
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>>10640122
In-box reviews are like looking at a car, and concluding it probably drives well, without ever starting the engine even, then posting it as a review.
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>>10640122
i was kind of in a similar situation when i was looking for 1/72 F-35 Lightning reviews. most of them just comments on the quality of the kit, but not on the accuracy of the subject
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Any online model shops that don’t charge shipping?
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>>10640862
Not sure how to put this, but there aren't any shops that don't charge shipping.
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>>10641295
AliExpress
and also the e-shop where I buy my dog's shampoo
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i dont wear a mask when i airbrush
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>>10641354
I don't wear a mask and I do it in a poorly ventilated room.
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>>10641354
>>10641364
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>>10636607
The answer probably depends heavily on whether or not you consider gaming figurines and Gundam/Gunpla and other assorted Chinese girl-cartoon subjects part of the hobby. I didn’t know a single kid who was interested in modeling when I was a kid in the 90s whereas I do know a few of my friends’ kids who are into it now.
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>>10636607
UK model shows are reeking of alzheimers and middle aged old farts everytime I go and visit. On discord, theres alot of kids + people my age (early 20s) with a couple dudes in theirs 30s and 40s.
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>>10639767
I kinda love German tanks but I've never built kraut flugzeuge
Their camo patterns on Me-109/Fw-190 scare the shit out of me, I will totally ruin everything so why even try.
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>>10641450
I've built a Revell 1:72 Bf-109G.

It looked like shit. But every WW2 fighter I've ever attempted looked like shit.
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>>10641450
Practice the mottles on some spare styrene sheet first. On 1:48 and bigger it is not that hard.
If you really don't want to do it they have hard-edge camouflage ones as well.
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>>10640862
Explain your logic anon, this is fascinating
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>>10642355
It has been proven that shipping costs detour people from ordering things online. That's why many online companies have shipping costs baked into their prices now because of the psychological thinking behind paying for shipping. You can thank Amazon for this. People would rather pay more for an item than pay for shipping. Also it's pretty annoying in this hobby when you go to buy things from one online store, but they don't have everything you need so you have to order from 2 sites. End of paying for shipping twice.
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>>10641450
>>10641477
yes.
>ruin everything
>fuck up everything
>enjoy
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>>10642699
So, to start:
Whatever the fuck is going on in the canopy
The camo looks like an ogre vomited and shat diarrhea from the skies. Speckling is not a good way to ersatz mottling.
The chipping is done in a rather senseless manner. You have a cloud of chips that put jap planes to shame seemingly drip down from the cockpit.
The decals could use a little more of a beating. See how the cross basically covers up everything under it?
Also is it just gloss light tricks or has the yellow paint seeped in a lot of corners it has no business seeping in?
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>>10642788
bruh, you kinda missed the point. I appreciate the effort to seriously critique this fuckup of epic proportions, but you shouldn't have. Here's a blog post as a reward.

>be me
>hanging out with buddy who is just getting into model building
>see he has some work in progress on the table, some ww2 fighter
>he has a fucking airbrush, wow
>only blue, yellow, red, gray, black and some olive green paints
>hey you got an extra kit? I always wanted to try using an airbrush
>out comes the sucke-oolf
> bash it together in barely an hour and prime it using some random rattle can
>try spraying a little on some cardboard
>fuck yeah! lines!
>chang airbrush and fish tank compressor actually work
>mix some paints by eye and memory
>full rlm autist mode on
>wtf is paint supposed to be so thin?
>oh shit handprints
>how do you mask?
>oh fuck yeah, psssh psssh motherfucker, i'm airbrushing like a fucking boss
>Shit's ready! Slap the stickers on!
>no you dingbing, you're supposed to weather it, right?
>chip some shit with a dish sponge
>rub some soot behing the exhaust
>ok, now slap the stickers on
>perfection.jpg
To this day, this is the build i enjoyed the most. I knew i was fucking up as i was going along, but i was having way too much fun to stop. I post it sometimes to mess with people, but this time it's right on point:
>>10641477
>>10641450
build those fucking fighters,.post them here, get roasted, so what? you'll learn, gain experience, do better next time, and get some solid advice between the trolling.

tldr: i enjoyed the process of learning by fucking up, knowing i was going to fuck up, with no expectations or pressure.
>imb4 blog niggers
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Are the model kits on aliexpress legit?
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>>10644214
if they're from a non dodgy looking seller probably, no one is selling knock off tamiya kits. You'll either get the kit or the scam will be you get nothing and can pretty easily get a refund
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can’t wait for Black Friday deals
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>>10644214
Yes

But they sell overpriced 1970ies overpriced Tamiya kits to morons who don't know better (like me for my first two models)
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>>10644214
Resin figures are probably bootleg recasts. The modern Russian tank crew I ordered once were pretty sussy. Though they were fine in quality, so probably first recast. Not a recast of a recast of a recast.
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Colours worked out nicely, the pattern... ok-ish. The unevenness in the tan field on the side of the superstructure is (from touching up the air brushing with a paint brush) more texture than actual colour so it should drown in the weathering.

>>10641450
The mottling was only introduced a bit into the war, there are 109E schemes without it.
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>>10644522
Very nice perkele
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just wanted to give a shout-out to this relatively small channel owned by a very friendly (and kinda skillful) boomer named Clayton

https://www.youtube.com/@workbenchhobbies4316/featured
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>>10644522
>The mottling was only introduced a bit into the war, there are 109E schemes without it.
fuck German ww2 camos in general
>oh you thought this was the correct build and camo for a BF109H-uwu flown by Obèrleütnantfeldwebel Otto von Gaerlikschmack of the 111th Fleugwaffen Stürmgarfŭnkēlkorps on the 29th of February 1942?
>lol, lmao even
>everybody knows that his plane had the radio removed that day, and his flaps didn't extend fully due to a mechanic's mistake, plus he had to borrow the tail ailerons from a BF109D-òvó variant
>no, I'm not gonna post the proof photos I found in the only digitalised copy of the unit's war diary that was posted in 1997 to an obscure Berliner bondage fetish forum, apply yourself
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>>10644570
it's your fault for heeding the autistic trolls, anon. Jesus fuck, i feel like i'm 2 years ago when faggots were arguing between doing it psychotically right or just winging it and having fun and taking artistic liberties. Happy little accidents, right?

>pic related is young bob ross, the drill sergeant.
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>>10644598
ross was a piece of shit and a pedophile
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>>10644603
oh yeah, Ross was a real nasty piece of work. I hated his guts.
Fuck Ross.
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This video is made for miniature painters but it's incredibly useful to scale modellers as well, give it a chance

https://youtu.be/PToqsLgr1xk?si=uxtgsmgp4HcLdknP
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Imagine you're a 40 year old boomer
You had airfix kits as a kid but you've since come around to the idea that they were actually garbage
Now you're all about Tamiya
Tamiya tanks, Tamiya planes and Tamiya ships
You love Tamiya, the detail and the fit is just unbelievable and every kit comes perfect with zero flashing
Then your local hobby store calls you, they know you love German vehicles and they have this new brand in stock called Dragon
They have a Tiger from them for sale, one of the deluxe kits with photoetch and a turned brass barrel
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>>10644651
I don't think there's anyone stupid enough to think that detail of Tamiya's kit is "unbelievable"
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>>10644690
Yeah I wasn't there so I wouldn't know, I just assumed
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>>10644620
>made by a woman and/or tranny
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I’ve got a winch on my model. What is going to look better. Dipping the string in aluminum paint or spinning thin 3 wires into metal rope?
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>>10644749
the second one, but you still have to paint the thing.
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>>10644724
>woman *and*/or tranny
stop buying into this 'trans-woman' narrative, goy, it's either/or.
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>>10644862
inshallah, I will learn the mistakes of my ways
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>>10644570
Do you really value the opinion of some greasy autistic wehraboo that much? Just find a picture of something you like, paint that, 99.9999999999% of people who see it will never know the difference except some sexless cunt with a hard-on for jerryshit. Rivet-counting autism is the only thing known to man that is somehow WORSE than obsessing over the made-up specifications of fictional spaceships. Live, my boy! LIVE AND BE FREE
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>>10644620
>warhammer
dropped
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>>10636607
In Europe, it is mostly post-soviet states.
And Russia, for some reasons.
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>>10645077
>based limey
listen to this guy!
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>>10645077
reddit
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>>10645195
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>>10645098
>>10644724
one of the things she mentions is that it's better to use pic related instead of buff to make colors progressively lighter. Should this be applied to military scale models as well?
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>>10645323
No.
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>>10644570
Same shit we have in Russia concerning Soviet vehicles.

REEEEEEEEEEE your paint is 3% off the correct hue of Russian Green M.1954 B (Late) (Factory Lower Shitkurvinsk).
BACK WHEN I SERVED MY CONSCRIPTION IN 1981 THESE TANKS HAD 85 RIVETS INSTEAD OF 88 ON LOWER GLACIS GO FUCK YOURSELF WITH A 30MM AUTOCANNON SHELL YOU FILTHY CASUAL.
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>>10645499
>REEEEEEEEEEE your paint is 3% off the correct hue of Russian Green M.1954 B (Late) (Factory Lower Shitkurvinsk).
I feel like this could lead to 100 page arguments on slav boomer forums and nobody can prove anything because the paint is so varied
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>>10644620
That's a man
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>>10645512
Exactly. But they will have a good time sperging out in this shitstorm.
Eventually it all comes down to "shut up faggot I am a more respected member of this community than you so your argument is invalid" and in the end mods or admins will come and declare their own opinion on subject matter which instantly becomes Unquestionable Law (c) and anyone who openly disagrees with it is instabanned for "arguing with administration".

But it seems that the whole point is in the process rather than the result so who we are to blame them?
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Tamiya or academy
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>>10645558
neither, and don't buy from amazon
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>>10645558
>>10645579
Amazon is fine if you can't find it cheaper elsewhere (inc shipping) :)
Generally speaking Amazon prices are insane, so double check.
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>>10645558
Buy RFM or do nothing at all.
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>>10645666
Literally who?
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>>10645558
Academy has usually newer tooling and more parts depending on the kit. I'd say go Academy. I've stopped buying Tamiya after 3 of the kits I got from them had shitty fitting.
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Hello /smg/, heres my 2nd scale model project, a tamiya 240zg, I finally finished it! its much better than my first but not perfect of course. Thoughts?
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>>10645854
is that a mold line on the front panel?
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>>10645854
Your paint choice makes it look like you left the body unpainted
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>>10645854
umm... well... uhhh...
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>>10645854
post more pictures, it looks very presentable, i see you struggled to get the headlights to sit flush and the hood, looks very orange peely where the light shines
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>>10645558
tamiya kit is alright, but their m1a2 is worse value for money. Plus its missing the anti slip surfaces.
And as those lot said, don't buy from amazon. You find the same tooling with plastic tracks for alot less if you know where to look.
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>>10645323
>listening to a women
LMAO

on the flipside when learning watercolour painting the rule was that you'd use light yellow for the bright spots and never use black (substitute it with the darkest blue)
use this information as you will
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are car fags the most autismal
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>>10646332
no, save for that one boomer who's now spent years recreating his father's dream car around a 1970s dogshit model
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The Zvezda BMP-3 mogs Trumpeter in fit
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>>10646332
nah militaryfags are more autistic because carfags have more freedom with choosing color schemes while militaryfags are very meticulous with the subject's accuracy to its real life counterpart.
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>>10646444
Newer Zvezda kits always had perfect fit, currently going through a Trumpeter build and the fit was cancerous.
Also nice cat.
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I take it all back, giving Western vehicles to filthy slavs with average IQ of 85 is fucking hilarious and we need more of it
(bonus points for triggering the bongs)
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>>10646490
scale models
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>>10646490
What are the modifications they made for it?
Besides the obvious "Amusing Hobby will make a kit of it" it shouldn't be too difficult to make one with spare parts or putty.
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>>10646332
nah tankfags are the most autistic, carfags are just extremely gay and too normie
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>>10646463
>Newer Zvezda kits always had perfect fit
Biggest lie ever told
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>>10646333
That boomer finished it the other day btw. Considering half the whole thing is scratch built aside from the shitty AMT body it's pretty impressive not gonna lie.
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>>10646629
>impressive
the amount of labour spent just to practically remake the kit from scratch is retarded
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>>10646632
It was still interesting to read the build thread and it definitely takes a lot of skill.
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>>10646444
Haven't been following Zvezda for a while. Neat that they released a BMP-3
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Well that's a hilarious lack of depth of focus all of sudden. Oh well, detail painting and decals done, time to muck it up.
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>>10646632
If that's the kit that exists then that's the kit that exists.
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Is £150 a good deal for a Sparmax Arism?
I've got my first model kit and don't really know where to start in regards to painting. I don't think I'd do a very good job using brushes.
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>>10646699
Or you could just not waste your time, the only resource you can't get more of, and instead work on something better
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>>10646742
modeling is a waste of time
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>>10646676
Your swastika is rotated 90 degrees counterclockwise. The white should be to the bottom and right.
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>>10646742
>don't waste your time
>inherently wasteful consoomer hobby thread

c'mon mate you aren't the brightest knife in the drawer are you
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>>10646332
shipfags are actually
anyone would go nuts working on microscopic photo etched parts
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>>10646779
that's skilled, not autismal
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>>10646758
...bugger. Guess I'll just have to go with private Pekka having taste tested the Molotov's a bit before painting, because the transfers ain't coming off any more.

>>10646742
That only works if there's something better available for the subject and scale you want to build.
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>>10646721
this seems like a retarded way to spend money
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>>10646490
any combat footage of Challenger 2?
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>>10646893
nah only it getting destroyed by KA-52 bVlls
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>>10646962
Are you actually retarded? That one was destroyed by friendly fire in OIF
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>>10646970
Pic related, they already destroyed the first cockhole Abrams.

He could literally check Oryx whether there's footage of a destroyed Chally 2, but retard instead falls for fake propaganda.

The zigger mind is fascinating. Then again, ziggers are repulsed by Oryx like Dracula is repulsed by a crucifix, because it keeps demolishing their fantasy world or five hundred destroyed Leopard 2's for every paint-scratched T-90M.
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>>10647012
Discord, trans sis?
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>>10647023
>I've been found out!
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>>10646893
this one is legit ukrainian Chally 2.
>>10647012
oryx is shit and nafo-cringed but your point is still valid.
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>have one day off in the entire week
>finally have time to build
>headache all day
>probably because I haven't had an energy drink in 24 hours
>can't build
I'm quitting one job soon. After that I'll just go "fuck it" and work four day weeks for a while.
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>>10647455
I felt a little shitty today too, probably because I downed a 12pack last night
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Test fit of parts on the Wild One. Its been a pretty pleasant build and beyond realizing the battery was not a control panel like on modern cars and will need a quick repaint, nothings been a real issue. Should get it wrapped up tomorrow or Tuesday.
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brassy stuff painted
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I only recently found out thin cement exists. Makes it so much easier than using this bullshit that I was raised on
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>>10647637
Everyone decided that cars are cringe so they are no longer welcome here.
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>>10647824
Then this is now a cringe thread given the picture in the OP.
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>>10647655
you are going to weather it, right, anon?
right?
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>>10646676
Besides the rubber being painted over in places, looking very nice for what I presume is a brush painted camo.

>>10646742
>just not waste your time
>the entire hobby is built upon how to maximize time wasted to reach the most autistic detail
If anything he's getting more bang for his buck because he doesn't slap together 60€ kits in a few nights but spends a month on one thus getting more entertainment out of that shitty kit.
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>>10648077
she'll get a lil weathering when the time comes
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>>10646742
>>10646632
One of the dumbest thing I've ever seen posted here. Post your models.
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I miss model master. is hasegawa still good?
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>>10648324
cope reddit
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>>10648148
>for what I presume is a brush painted camo.
Mostly airbrushed, touched up and adjusted with paintbrush.
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>>10648423
I'm guessing the green was airbrushed, and the rest of the camo done my hand?
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>>10648438
All three colours airbrushed (tan, brown, and last green), then just some minor cleanup and adjustment with the paintbrush where the details had been too deep for the masking to work really well.
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Going thru my old box of supplies from 10+ years ago. Seems like a few of these brands aren’t even around anymore. What do you guys use for thin liquid cement, Tamiya?
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>>10648474
I've used Tamiya Extra Thin and Mr Cement S, both work fine.
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>>10648474
I'm in love with Mr Cement S and SP (thin/extra thin cements), but I also use Revell Contacta for when I need a slow drying cement
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>>10647729
Its one saving grace is that it will work on ABS plastic. This is an infrequent use case, but if you wind up with some stuff from Rubicon and your usual glue won't do the job, that one will.
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Little tip on how to make chains for stuff like smoke launcher caps or machine guns:
>twirl up a copper strand from some electronics cable
>flatten with your needle-nose pliers to create the illusion of chain links
Don't know if this is a commonly known trick, but I'll show you guys just in case it isn't.
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>>10649001
That is actually pretty cool, I will pirate this patented method
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>>10649001
Where’s the best place to get thin wire? Or just buy a roll of Romex from Lowe’s and strip it?
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>>10649041
I've seen it in the old Plamo Tsukurou show.

>>10649084
Ammo by Mig premium wire, only $20 for ten centimeters.
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>>10649001
that's pretty dope, I can see some great use for that trick.
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Any socal /smg/ anons going to OrangeCon this weekend? Gonna be spending it with the boomers.

Here's my Kagero-class (Hayashio) nearly finished. Doing some more weathering and trying rigging. Really happy with how it's turning out.
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>>10649599
>commiefornia
lol
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>>10649001
The twirling part is common, the flattening with tweezers I haven't heard of though. Great tip!
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>>10649721
Tweezers aren't strong enough though, you really need needle-nose pliers or something.
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>>10649084
You don't have an assorted lengths of wire drawer in your home?
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>>10649821
This. I don't even throw away used-up guitar strings when I change them, you never know when it might be handy to have a bit of flexible metal string.
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>>10647455
nobody gives a shit about your blog
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>>10646444
what about detail?
I'd like to have trumpy's cypriot BMP-3 but if the zvezda one is vastly better then I'd rather have the latter regardless of the decals.
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Speaking of zvezda, I thought that many scale modelling retailers stopped stocking kits from Russian companies because they wanted to boycott Russia, the polish Plastmodel being one example. And yet I see the new Zvezda BMP-3 in stock everywhere...
I'm confused
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>>10649856
>nobody gives a shit about your blog
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>>10649872
the invisible hand of the market bitchslapping the cucks again
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>>10649868
The details are pretty good, you get clear parts for the periscopes and the guns are not an alignment nightmare, main gun cap comes with rifling, but you have to drill the autocannon
Hatches have 2 side details, but no interior details unlike Trumpeters kit
Unlike regular Zvezda kits, this time you don't get a plastic mesh or string for tow cables, the tow cables are
Link and length tracks with hollow track guides
The biggest letdown are the roadwheels, they don't have the raised rim
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>>10649983
>the tow cables are
Molded from a single piece
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>>10649983
>those welds
Sweet mother of Christ
>>10649987
Have experience with the molded cables from Zvezda's T-62, and for them being plastic pieces, they were fairly cooperative, wen tin heir places nicely and did not snap in three at the slightest maneuvering.
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>>10649987
>>10650068
I hope you guys actually keeps old electronics wires around to make tow cables.
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>>10649821
Clutter in my garage drives me crazy so I throw things away
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>>10650068
>>those welds
>Sweet mother of Christ
What do you mean by that? They look pretty shit because they seem to be raised and way too uniform compared to the real thing.
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>>10650173
Welds are supposed to be raised and uniform. If you’re comparing welds on a military vehicle to your Uncle Joey’s trailer welds done on a portable stick welder you’re very dumb.
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>>10650171
buy a chest of drawers to keep thing in them
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>>10650203
Tell that to Sergey, shit for brains.
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>>10650291
man, russian manufacturing is garbage. Compare that to any western armored vehicle
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>>10650310
Going to the aircraft museum and comparing the build quality between a Flogger and a Draken is insane.
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Let's play a game buttfuckers. Dubs decides my next build.
I'm at the stage of constantly waiting for shit to dry on my coal truck, but I'm still in a modeling mood and no single kit is jumping out at me
For clarity I've listed out the stash, ordered left to right, back to front, top to bottom.

>Hobbyboss 82459 GMC Bofors 40mm
>Hobbyboss 83817 SdKfz 223
>Trumpeter 01021 HEMTT M983 Tractor
>Trumpeter 00215 Morser Karl Gerat 040/041 (already started)
>Trumpeter 01074 AA-60 7310 Model 160.01 ARFF
>Meng TS-017 A7V
>MiniArt 35178 SU-85 Early Production with Crew
>Takom 2008 Mk IV Male
>MiniArt 35259 BM-8-24 on 1.5 Truck
>MiniArt 38051 Mercedes-Benz L1500S
>MiniArt 35380 G7107 U.S. Army Cargo Truck 4X4 1,5t
>ICM 32052 Stearman PT-13/N2S-2/5 Kaydet
>Trumpeter 09529 Soviet 2A3 Kondensator 2P 406 mm Self-propelled Howitzer
>Trumpeter 09545 2P16 Launcher w/Missile of 2K6 Luna (FROG-5)
>Meng QS-003 Fokker Dr.I Triplane (1/24)
>Gecko 35GM0038 LARC-V (Vietnam War) US Army Amphibious Cargo Vehicle
>Hobbyboss 85501 152mm ShkH DANA vz.77
>Trumpeter 01020 Russian 9A52-2 Smerch-M Multiple Rocket Launcher
>AFV Club 35231 Early Type Sd.kfz. 231
>ICM 32060 AH-1G Cobra (early production)
>Hobbyboss 84537 M3A1 Late Version Towing 122mm Howitzer M-30
>Dragon 6861 Sd.Kfz.251/1 Ausf.D mit 28/32cm Wurfrahmen 40
>Dragon 6816 Pz.Kpfw. IV Ausf. A mit Zusatzpanzer
>Trumpeter 01523 2cm Flakvierling 38 auf Selbstfahrlafette (Sd.Kfz.7/1) w/ Sd.Anhanger 51
>Trumpeter 05530 German Sd.Kfz. 6 Halbkettenzugmaschine Pionierausführung
>MiniArt 39005 Austin Armored Car 3rd Series
>Hobbyboss 83838 Soviet BA-3 Armor Car
>MiniArt 35234 BM-8-24 Self-Propelled Rocket Launcher
>Dragon 6838 Soviet SU-76i Self-Propelled Gun
>Hobbyboss 83853 Soviet T-28 Medium Tank (riveted)

I reserve the right for finishing options and level of after market detail
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>>10650396
>Hobbyboss 83817 SdKfz 223
And add another german armor piece into a diorama with it. 231 or 251.
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>>10650396
All boring boomershit apart from the Dana.
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>>10650422
lol, all that effort and got me on the first reply. Looks like a nice simple build, so thank you for not being sadistic. I blow dick at dioramas so thats probably not happening

>>10650435
>All boring boomershit
how can you say that with a kondensator in the stash. get your taste checked
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>>10650396
I know it's over and whatnot, but I heard good things about the Meng A7V
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>>10650396
How about...
>>10650422
Oh.

Anyway, Liisa's done.
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i found this image funny, that is all
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>>10650422
>And add another german armor piece into a diorama
I once saw a diorama of a winter King Tiger that (by the builder's story for the scene) got a cold engine sitting outdoors overnight, so it couldn't be inertia-started with the hand-crack ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROnb5ouBjNc ), so they had a Kübelwagen with a starter shaft attached to it.

I don't know if the 223 has this sort of arrangement in either direction, but maybe you should look it up.
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>>10650444
Thought it might be a nice change after all those huge barrels, fucking trains and truck chassis.
As for the diorama, challenge yourself. Trying out new shit is what keeps the hobby fresh and teaches you new stuff.
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>>10650498
Pretty basic, but cute.

>>10650504
>Hamanahamanahamana! *tongue rolls out* Aawooga! *steam comes from under bowler hat*
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>>10650504
I'd buy it if it were 1:35 just for the gigantic ass.
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>>10650456
I kinda wanna do a cut away of that
>>10650498
dont worry, maybe I'll do this again. cute little tank
>>10650512
this one actually has quite the detailed chassis, but it's hobbyboss not miniart so the plastic isn't nearly as soft and the fits a little looser. Maybeeee I'll try a little vignette, I have a chipped up fence I never used that would look good next to a russian dirt road
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>1:35
>not 1:36
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I wonder how the upcoming Hasegawa tooling will compare to the old Tamiya and Fujimi toolings?
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I had a dream I was working on my 1/200 mikasa kit and I felt so happy doing so
Maybe this is my brain telling me I need to buy that stupid Pontos set for it and just do it
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I'm absolutely new to the hobby and was wondering if someone could link me a video on some very basic, low-budget weathering techniques.
I think I want to do some modern fighter jet as my first model, because they typically only need a handful of colors but would like to see what my options are for making it look a tiny bit more interesting than just one solid color blob.
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>>10650815
we don't do cars in here anymore
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>>10650815
it's certainly going to be much better than Tamiya's 90's tooling. kinda wish Aoshima's doing the same to their model kits too.
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Is tamiya losing their edge? Better brands out there now? Just now getting back into modeling and Taniya is all I know and thought was the gold standard. Who makes the best tank models?
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>>10651043
The best tank kits these days are from Chinese companies but they don't have the perfect fit that you get with Tamiya
Ryefield model and Takom are the best imo
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What is generally the cheapest scale for tanks?
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>>10651199
1/100
You can get the Zvezda ones for 5 units of currency or less
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>>10651199
1/48 is the cheapest bang for buck
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>>10650959
Build a wheeled military vehicle if you don't want to kill yourself for your first model. You will fuck the plane up. An AFV you can paint once assembled and it's pretty easy. For a plane to not look like utter trash you need to
1) Paint before assembly
2) Learn to do decals very well
3) Learn to do clear parts well
4) Probably do a lot of masking
And possibly something else. Just do a jeep or kübelwagen or something.
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>>10651509
Care to elaborate? I do believe you, but I just would want some more details, since I think it's more important to me to start out with a model I'm passionate about, rather than something that' easy.
Anyways my reasoning behind planes (aside that I really like them) was actually that they can look decent with just one solid color and some decals.
>1) Paint before assembly
That only applies to stuff like the cockpit, the engines and the landing gear insides though, right? If I think before I build I should probably be fine
>2) Learn to do decals very well
From the videos I saw, I assumed decals are reasonable simple, since you can slide them around for a while after sticking them on. Or is the hard part getting them to sit snug against the surface?
>3) Learn to do clear parts well
What is there to fuck up about it, other than getting paint on them?
>4) Probably do a lot of masking
I'm thinking of painting it all one color, so I think I should get away with a minimum amount of masking no?
Again, I believe you that it's hard, I'm just tempted to do it anyways.
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>>10651658
>That only applies to stuff like the cockpit, the engines and the landing gear insides though, right? If I think before I build I should probably be fine
"only" those yes. :^)

>Or is the hard part getting them to sit snug against the surface?
Yes (and the surface has to be smooth)

>other than getting paint on them?
Frosting them with glue, solvent, varnish etc. Also cracking.

>minimum amount of masking
For a plane the minimum often exceeds what the maximum is on land vehicles.

The million dollar question is do you have an airbrush?
>yes
You can probably pull this off unless you are an actual moron with hand-eye coordination of a rotten stump.
>no
You are positively insane, will hate it and it will look like shit.

There are just so many steps for a plane where doing stuff with an airbrush is easy enough, finicky with a rattle can and nightmare with a brush. ESPECIALLY if you're going for one flat color finish.
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>>10651668
Hmm, I see. Looks like I'll have to do some more research beforehand then.
I don't have an airbrush, I wanted to go with a spraycan for now.
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>>10651680
1/72 is a fine place to start, pick up cheap Tamiya kits. Bang them out. Get practice in.
Airbrush is near essential for high quality finishes, but you don't need to buy it before doing your first kit or two. If you use Tamiya paints (X/XF range) with mr color levelling thinner, all of that can be used in an airbrush down the line. You can also decant spray paints to use with an airbrush.
Basically get on with a few kits, see how you like the hobby before buying all the shit you'll inevitably convince yourself you need.
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>>10651698
Yeah, the thing that has been putting me off of the hobby for a while, was not knowing how steep the price of entry really is. I never knew you could get decent sets for like 10-20 bucks and I was unsure how many paints you REALLY need as a beginner, since all the guys online do like 5 passes with 20 different colors that are just a few shades of to get the best possible look, but my guess is that a lot of that isn't needed until you start doing more advanced shit.
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>>10650959
watch Night Shift on YouTube and copy everything he does. In certain cases he uses an airbrush for weathering, if you don't have one you can try using enamel products to get very similar effects
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>>10651757
This

I started this way with a chinesium 20€ airbrush and like 5 Tamiya paints.
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>>10651757
I watched some of his videos, but doesn't he used like a lot of different colors? I understand that that's the endgame, but I'm looking for something I can do as a beginner when I just want to buy a handful of paints.
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>>10651713
Buy the colours that the kit specifies. Make a spreadsheet of the colours you have. Next kit you do, check if you have all the colours, if not buy the missing ones. Before long you'll amass all you need. There is little to no crossover between military stuff and cars in terms of paints.
You're unlikely to want to run the risk of "ruining" your first model or two by applying weathering once you've put the time in to get it assembled nicely, painted, etc.
1/72 Tamiya is generally the best price/value ratio you'll find. Doing other manufacturers such as Academy may appear super cheap (on some kits) but they'll require a lot of skills and patience you won't have as a beginner.
The price of entry can literally be a few paints, some thinners, a kit, some cement, a couple of nail files, and a pair of cutting pliers.
All that stuff isn't even needed once you start doing more advanced shit, it's your hobby, put as much or as little effort/time into it as you'd like. Pretty much all of us here have our hate builds that we just get through no matter how much they irritate us, some just get boxed and never touched again.
When it comes to airbrush, spend the money on something good (Iwata is great). Compressor doesn't matter; as long as it has a tank, and a moisture trap.
An airbrush compressor in terms of rattlecan cost is going to end up being maybe 20 or 30 cans. It's a big investment. You will, generally, achieve a much better finish with it. But you can absolutely master the art of rattle cans and achieve great finishes with those too.
Find out if you like the hobby first. Remember, Tamiya X/XF paints can be airbrushed and are generally very good quality. They're transferable, not all paints are, at least not as effortlessly.
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>>10651812
>some just get boxed and never touched again
That's weak shit. A mate of mine got so pissed at this one kit that he set it on fire and then ran it over.
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>>10641354
>spray paint
>*sniff sniff*
>"yep I don't feel sick, i am immune to paint fumes"
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>>10641354
I started wearing one for spraying primers and clear coats, but I only have a PMK-2, so I probably look ridiculous.
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>>10651982
how's the asbestos?
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One very quick bit of building later. Trumpy's 1/72 ZTZ-99A, and as is apparently the case overall with these recent-ish 1/72 Trumpeter kits parts count is very low. Bugger all detail on the inside of the tracks, but otherwise ok I guess. Overall decent fit if a bit tight at times, with one notable exception in that the "neck" of the turret extended too far into the hull where it hit the lower side walls. At least that one was easily fixed.
Going straight to this after the StuG also made quite a point out of how cyclopean modern tanks are.
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>>10652131
Did it have any pins in the inside of the hull that connected the upper and lower parts? I usually found those extremely annoying and just rid of them.
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>>10652151
Yes, two in the front and two in the rear. Also a pair of large ones in the middle of the hull, but they didn't engaged with the top part in any way, I guess they may be for some other vehicle using the same hull tub.
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>>10652131
I really hate how smooth the ERA blocks are
Extremely lazy release
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>>10652307
But they pretty much look like that on the real thing if given some panel liner. Chink shit is snug and proper unlike r*ssian crap.
r*ssian crap = looks shit, is shit
chinese crap = looks great, is shit
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the sheer amount of faggot attitude around here, advising people to not even try
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Based pleb filter chrome plating.
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>>10651027
Agreed. I'm glad Hasegawa is filling in the niche for new plastic toolings of civilian vehicles. Reboxplebs filtered.
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>>10651386
Are there any specific manufacturers who makes a good kv1 tank? I wanted to get one as a gift for somebody
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>>10652816
There is the Trumpeter 1/35 KV1, it is a decent model and very cheap
There is the Tamiya 1/48 KV1 but if I were you I'd just get the 1/35 kit
The absolute best on you can get is the Ryefield models KV1 but it is more expensive
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>>10650815
New hasegawa kits are pretty good
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>>10652633
It's not about "not even trying". It's about creating realistic expectations.
If you start jigsaw puzzles with a 5000 piece RGB set, you probably won't have a good time and think all puzzles are shit. Same thing applies everywhere. Learn to walk before you learn to run.
Or if the expectations are there and the person still wants to try, that's fine. Just they have been warned. We don't know if it's a very talented artist trying it out that will have pretty much no problems or a baby with down's syndrome that couldn't build a Revell push kit.
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>>10652004
Got a modern NATO filter for it, with an universal thread.
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>>10653200
wasn't there some faggot saying not to make a plane as a first model? how about just do whatever you like
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>>10652833
48 is comfy
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>>10651811
I found this guy and he has a bunch of useful videos. I followed this video and my rust came out perfect and it’s really easy.

https://youtu.be/Pcu_feWLai4?si=zAYxxwth-_KyrHgL
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>>10654263
Except when your knees hurt.
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Halfway through the camo. The mask set came with a sheet of clear film with one sticky side. The instructions told me to cut out suitable bits of it, stick the masking bit onto that (sticky side out), put the whole thing onto the model, burnish down the mask, and then peel off the clear film. I decided not to.
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How do we make modeling more popular. Post Malone?
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>>10654552
By endlessly shitting on everyone that posts a wip
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>>10654552
drive around in a van stocked with kits and invite kids inside
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>>10653200
>It's about creating realistic expectations
Jesus dude, they're fucking model kits not a combat zone. You don't need 12 weeks of training to build a fucking plane or somebody's going to come to your house. People like you suck all the fucking fun out of shit because you make it all weird and autistic. Nobody is required to do more than buy some shit they like and fuck around with some glue and paint. That's it. That's the whole hobby, whether it turns out great or not, and it's been that way before your father came out of your grandpappy's nutsack.
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Friend of mine gave me a big tub of old kits that are a mixed bag. Still going through it but amid the pile of models that at best would be good for a boneyard scene, I think there's a partially built but complete Hobby Boss 1/300 USS Bataan. Photo Etch pieces still in bags on the runners and I think all the tiny little vehicles are accounted for. The only thing missing is the instructions so if anybody knows where I can get those I'd appreciate it.

Once I get through sorting all this stuff I'll post a pic, since it's an...interesting assortment. There's a Mad Max Interceptor in pieces and some helicopter from Patlabor 2, among other things.
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>>10655566
One quick trip to DuckDuckGo later... https://www.super-hobby.com/products/LHD-5-USS-Bataan.html
Seems to be most of it at least, can't be arsed to count if every step is there.
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>>10655684
Awesome, thanks! Mind blowing to see all that interior detail that likely won't ever be seen.
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So here's the bulk of what my friend gave me (decade old crap from one of their friends who left it at their house and AFAIK has since gone incommunicado with them, hence my friend wants this shit gone)

In addition to the USS Bataan and Mad Max Interceptor, there's a Patlabor 2 helicopter of some kind, some MBT that I'm not sure of the make or model of (but aside from a turret hatch I think I have all the parts, the broken off ones I put in the Bataan's box), and the jet might become an airbrushing dummy because it's little more than a shell with all the parts missing.
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>>10655809
The tank in particular I want to rehab because I realize it has photo-etched pieces installed and it would be a shame to let it go to waste. I have no idea what company made this or what model it is so I could get replacement parts.
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>>10655811
Is that like the Mk.11 resin conversion kit for the ancient Tamiya Chieftain Mk.5? Does the hull tub have Tamiya markings on the inside?

Nowadays with Takom's Chieftain kits this resin kit is completely deprecated.
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>>10655809
chieftain is probably takom, but man you need to hand over that Hellhound because they're going for like 7.5k yen on manda last i checked.
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>>10655809
That mad max kit is worth like 300aud
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>>10655811
Some kind of Chieftain. https://www.scalemates.com/search.php?q=chieftain*&fkSECTION[]=Kits&fkTYPENAME[]=%22Full%20kits%22
The availability of spare parts without buying an entire new kit is often pretty poor though.
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>>10655851
>damaged box
Best I can do you is 298 yen
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>>10655809
>Patlabor
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>>10655851
This is the state of everything in the Hellhound box
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>>10655853
Once, maybe, but the bottom is due to be thrown out (mold), and its half built with random other parts.
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https://twitter.com/denfaminicogame/status/1707578078053138810
you can become a modeler now without wasting money on buying a kit, paint and tools.
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japan is so fucking gay
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>>10656150
You can spray and kill the mold to get rid of it, simple ammonia window cleaner would probably do the job. There's enough left of it you might be able to build it into something. It is, after all, a wasteland wanderer car so you can do all kinds of stripped-out janky shit with it. I'd say clean it, keep it, if you come across a 1/24 or 1/25 donor car for extra parts down the road it could make for an interesting project.
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>>10656239
By bottom I meant the actual bottom of the box. All that shit was thrown in a tub and...yyeeeaaahhhh. I'm only keeping the box top because it looks cool.

The actual car itself just needs cleaning of actual dust and dirt so it can have more accurate weathering (it does drive all over the desert after all). I'll track down the instructions and likely be able to fabricate any missing parts. One of the rubber tires is split but I'm sure a full set of generic rubber tires would be easy to obtain.
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>>10656350
Ah, I see. Well in any case having to scavenge parts for your interceptor is at least a pretty authentic experience. Even without gay mohawk bikers shooting crossbows at you.
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>>10637089
I do feel that way about the newer Bandai kits actually, you don't even need glue.
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>>10654486
Hah its a mask set, hence the numbers. For a minute I thought you'd resorted to cutting masks from price tags.
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>A Revell 1/24 civilian vehicle w/o chrome plating
Hidden gem
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>>10656513
I'm sufficiently deranged to have done a few vehicles in full Swedish splinter camo without a mask set, but I'm not quite that nuts. (Yet)
The masks having the numbers on the actual mask bits is a nice thing btw, makes it very clear what you've used, but it took my brain some time to adapt. Early on I'd see a number right next to an empty space and spend a few seconds wondering why I'd already used up that number.
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quite the detailed little chassis on this 223. I'm gonna design and print some new wheels for this guy too
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>>10656150
Looks like all the parts are there so you should definitely finish it
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>it's raining whole day so i can't go outside to rattlecan prime stuff
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>>10657186
God punishes rattlecan-plebs.
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>>10657188
and you know what's worst? whole week, when i was rotting slowly at 9 to 5 work, we had great weather. not too hot yet sunny and fairly dry. then weekend came, i have time for hobby stuff, boom, drizzling rain since morning.
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>>10651658
A plane needs to be exact in its geometry, you have to clean up seamlines and maybe fill and sand a bit. Planes are smooth. A tank has dings and dents, is dirty and doesn't need to be that exact. You have way more options to cover up your mistakes. Also it usually requires no filling or sanding.
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>>10657196
Just intoxicate your bathroom at 11pm. By the time anyone actually needs to go there, it'll have aired up.
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Even if anon has done a dozen tanks he's still likely to fuck up his first plane. He's not participating in a competition, give him tips instead of discouraging him.
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All plane-fumblers will be shot. You get one chance, and only one chance. This is your first and final warning.
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"Fumble a plane, bullet to the brain" as the old guys in my scale modeling club used to say.
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stop being cunts
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>>10657201
It doesn't need to be.
Unless you're being paid (ahead of time) for your models, they are all simply works of art made for your own enjoyment.
Don't want to do x, or simply forgot to do x?
Up to you how that impacts you and your enjoyment.
All that needs to be asked is "Why are you doing this hobby?"
If it's for your own entertainment, make the rules as you see fit. If it's to win the approval of others, you're probably better off starting a meme channel on tiktok or something. If it's to win the approval of /smg/, you won't, there'll always be something that can be spotted and improved upon.
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>>10657201
>A plane needs to be exact in its geometry
Aren't prop planes slightly asymmetric to compensate for propeller draft and propeller torque?
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>>10657274
no they simply trim it out as those effects vary with prop speed and a bunch of other factors.
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>>10657274
There are a few examples of asymmetric aircraft but not a lot. Famously the MC202 is.
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>>10657313
there are a few exceptions to the rule. you can also be super autistic and say that because the pitot tube is on one side only, it is inherently asymmetric.
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>>10657274
exact doesn't mean symmetric as Blohm und Voss engineers set out to prove in their epic quest to troll the shit out of Göring.
Also you're now all aware that the mi-24 fuselage is offset to the side to counter torque
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Take the tankpill, literally no tank is symmetric, not even at the most basic things like armor construction.
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>>10656548
>civilian
we can fix that, anon
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>>10657274
>>10657321
>exact in its geometry
>Yeah, but it doesn't need to be symmetric.
Those are two different words, right? To clarify: when building a plane, you have to take care not to glue the tail on wonky and when it stands on the ground, both wingtips should have the same clearance from the gound etc. This level of exactness is not required from most tank models.
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>>10657273
Yes, but deep down one will still be unhappy with a plane looking like shit.
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>>10657340
no, and shit is subjective



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