-Next Spawn wave with Sinn, Monolith and Medieval Spawn up for preorder-Demon Slayer figures up for preorder in multiple scales-Two Spawn 3" Page Puncher packs have preorders up as well-Movie Maniacs and McFarlane's Dragons returned and up for preordersPrevious >>10304139
What old Spawn figure would you still want to see made with modern articulation?
>>10316860None. Cause it'd end up poorly painted and have a soft sculpt.
>>10316860
He finally gave in and put it up for bids after over a year.
>>10316827Teenage Mutant Ninja TurtlesTeenage Mutant Ninja TurtlesTeenage Mutant Ninja TurtlesHeroes in a Half-shell Turtle Power
>>10316860Curse of the Spawn,but i want the classic series 8 look, i just like it more
>>10316950I still have this guy on display, he is that good. The paint is amazing. One of the first McFarlane figures that really wowed with the paint.
>>10316957Yeap the whole bone details actually worked really well with the mold and plastic of the time
>>10316894Nu-Todd would never
>>10316957He's really not that good of a figure. You're overselling it.
>>10317099Post yours with a time
>>10316903Who did
>>10317522Nonsense, its an ebay listing, its public, anyone can find it
>>10316860picked up couple of the ultra figures from the movie toyline. I really liked what they did with the live action suit.
>>10316903How much is that stuff actually worth? Like a thousand bucks?
>>10317582needs a cape
>>10317014$65 batmobile
>>10317789I dunno but i would view it as more of a liability than worth something given the space it would take up. Its like buying a hoarders hoard
>>10316894Thats not Spawn related
>>10317998
>>10317789>>10317987>>10316903Some of the figures might be worth quite a bit, some can't sell for $10 at a comic shop, and regardless most of the cards and bubbles are going to start breaking down and looking rough unless they've been stored in nearly museum esque conditions. That price breaks it down to about $46 per figure, not including the $3000+ shipping. What kind of spawn fan is going to want to buy an entire collection that doesn't already have a significant portion of that collection? It's just insane and will never happen. He needs to break it up and sell it by wave, and even then getting even $20 per figure is unlikely, with the exception of some of the extremely rare/popular ones.
>>10316903>Putting eBay/PayPal fees in the shipping costI could ship that lot for $300 including materials. I get that fees suck but holy shit.
>>10317796Agreed if they ever did a modern version of the film suit a cape would be rad
>>10316903saw that listing recently, they need to sell off in pieces. like another anon pointed out, any old fans already will have most of the pieces, and me as newer fan am not going to pay that much for everything in that lot to get the shit I want. 90's collectors are fucking delusional.
>>10318016Yeah It can be seen in the images some of the clamshells are yellowing
>>10318630Smaller lots of like 4-8 figures are where it is at to get the best deals without getting many duplicates
>>10318743too lazy to look it up myself, plus I like learning stuff from ya'll. What causes the yellowing?
>>10316950A lot of the figures from that era had ridiculous paint and detail. On one had, I'd like to see some of these figures remade for the updated articulation, but at the same time, the sculpt, detail, and paint would probably all be of lesser quality.
>>10318756thanks for the tip, I'll have to look into it when me and the wife get moved into new place. promised her I wouldn't buy more collectibles or extra's until then. Wasn't spending outrageous money or anything but felt bit guilty having stuff come in when we need to save up for move.
>>10318758As newer fan of Spawn I honestly wish he would pump out a "throw back" line of some sort. With the limited articulation but fantastic sculpts and paint work. I got really lucky and nabbed couple of great pieces from a local shop, clam boxes were fucked but the figures them selves were in great condition.
>>10317798>based on a shitty shopped piclol
>>10316950>>10318758>>10318770i wish he remade the 12 inch figs with articulation
>>10318840I'm opposite haha, would rather get reissues of stuff like that, or new sculpts. Although a 12 inch figure in that style with articulation would be neat.
>>10318868yeah i'd love a reissue of that big guy
>>10318868i know everybody loves 6 inch but i really love 12 inch. i really love ithell......todd should re release this
>>10316860What the fuck happened?
>>10318935hell that would be fun, I'd happily take a "retro line" of spawn stuff.
>>10318770Honestly, you can buy many of the old vintage Spawn figures for cheap as fuck. I recently picked up a few (Future Spawn, Ninja Spawn, Manga Spawn, Spawn II, etc) and they were super cheap. I paid $3 for Ninja Spawn brand new still sealed, though it was another $6 or so for shipping. Still that was cheap as shit. I paid $20 total, shipped for Future Spawn, but he's big as fuck. He's literally a disembodied torso piloting a mech suit.
>>10318983right, I'm aware I can buy the not popular toys cheaply. It's the popular ones I seek is the issue haha, thankfully some of them are reasonably priced, but then you get to the gunslinger spawn and such and those go 100 plus bucks.
>>10319006I guess, but honestly many of the cheap figures are still pretty damn cool, and among some of the best ones. Like a lot of lines, I think there were just less units produced later and later as time went on, so they're pricier just because there were a lot fewer of them.But really, even the actual issues of the comics that characters like Gunslinger and Mandarin Spawn appeared in carry a pretty hefty premium these days. I never had those figures, but I'm glad I have and hung onto all of those old single issues during that period.
>>10318983Looks like a Strogg.
>>10319043ill have to look at the cheaper ones sometime, sure there is neat stuff in there, thanks for tip based anon.
>>10318983What the FUCK is this
>>10319068fucking kek
>>10319061>>10319068I always loved that Spawn because it was just so stupid. It reminded me of an old 90's movie called "Virus" which was about some alien mechanical virus thing (or...something like that) that gets beamed down to a ship, and there's some group of people on there for some reason, and the virus starts infecting all the machinery and killing people, and making these gory flesh-robot hybrid monsters.
>>10319006I'm glad I like the not-popular ones and am mostly ambivalent on the popular ones (namely the staction and statues). And the staction figures I liked most (Mandarin and Raven) I was able to find for reasonable prices since they're more common than the later stuff)
>>10319162got any good suggestions of the "not popular" stuff I should look into? I have Raven spawn
>>10318840I wanted this as the modern spawn, and I got a skinny capeless weakling with a huge rubber diaper. but at least it's overpriced and comes with an ugly turd of a throne.
>>10319168Not him, but here were some of my favorites:Zombie SpawnBattleclad SpawnSpawn IISpawn IIINinja SpawnManga SpawnMedieval SpawnExo Skeleton SpawnSome of the earlier Commando Spawns
>>10319177thanks m8
>>10319168Would agree with >>10319177 although Exo Skeleton Spawn is --underneath the exo-skeleton -- a remold of Spawn II without the cape, so one might be able to deprioritize one of the two.Spawn III tends to sometimes go for over $20ish dollar prices so is one of the more popular of the earlier figures and is thus harder to get cheap.I would also add:-Manga Violator-Gatekeeper-Techno Spawn wave's Cyber SpawnAnd 2 others straddling the lines as far as 'low cost':-Curse of the Spawn (this one can sometimes get into the $20s, usually not lower)-Cyber Manga Violator (is somewhat large and can also get up there into the high $20s or more with shipping, usually did not see him lower unless it was open/damaged)
>>10319243thanks to you as well m8, I'll have to look into all these suggestions.
>>10318840
They made some really weird stuff back then, and put what would be a lot of money in paint today into it too
>>10319258> Do you know who Goblox is?!-I will tell you who Goblox is. In the year 9595, a race of deformed turkey was developed by chicken scientists as revenge against his bird brother. These turkeys would exit the womb doused in gravy; gravy filled with the giblets..from a monkey. The French craved it, and, as a result, turkey became the only food source for France which is now called: RoboFrance 29. I was later killed by the chickens! So...of course..you can see why I'm angry at those chickens.
>>10319542Deepest spawn series 15 lore
I want to get this someday, help me with future verbiage justifying this purchase to my wife.
>>10322912It's kind of gross.
>>10322912>popsicle sticks>ice cream scooperSo did Spawn just shove those in him intact?
Why Todd? Why you gotta make female figures so ugly? You make Shespawn so sexy, why can't you repeat that?
>>10323303I kind of see Mike Myers in that face
>>10323303HahahahahahShe spawn was also mid.
>>10323303What in the fuck? This looks nothing like the actress. The hair color isn't even right.
>>10323366Looks exactly like actress except for the hair.
>>10323425She doesn't have a potato for a nose and one of her eyes isn't smaller than the other
>>10323429she literally has both tho
I want a new 'The Mangler' figure. Good wolf-beast, but needs more articulation.
>>10323134>its kind of grossI mean that's the appeal, or at least part of it for me. Sick serial child killer gets his just desserts.
Anyone here get the Munitions Pack 2? Was wondering how the rounder space gun scales
>>10323570lol shoopbut seriously, hollywood actresses can be pretty ugly and it used to take a ton of make up that tiktok can make pretty in real time
>>10322912I side with your wife.He's a child rapist too so you have to explain why u have a BDSM fetish child rapist in chains lol
>>10323306She-Spawn was pretty good, though.
Have they ever made a TAS Joker or is the Arkham Asylum figure the closest thing to the animated one they've done? Also is there any idea if/when they'll have a Keaton Batman?
>>10325251I'm surprised there wasn't a regular assortment one still. I guess after Redeemer and Raven Spawn there hasn't really been much in the way of repaints. I'd like to see an unhelmeted "Dark Redeemer" though, and I wouldn't mind the regular one as well, with the coins over his eyes.
>>10325036who doesn't like seeing a child killer/molester get fucked up? has nothing to do with being into bdsm or liking the character. For me its iconic panel that stuck with me, and like I said doesn't hurt that its depiction of fucked up character, getting fucked up.
>>10322912The Spawn cartoon did this entire storyline better.
>>10326085well yeah, it was something done after first attempt with not just todd mcfarlene writing it.
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
LOOK AT HIS LIPS
>>10326119>>10326121>>10311404
>>10326119>>10326121Looks good desu
>>10326170No it doesn't
>>10326182looks solid to me
>>10326121Why? You thinking about a kiss?
>>10326196https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yivLt9cTaio
>>10326184You need your eyes checked
>>10326119Todd really doesn't give a shit about DC.
I like Dark Flash
>>10326341I assume you are the costume designer
>>10326341Said nobody ever
>>10325504The only DCAU stuff done so far are a hybrid Batman (TAS outfit on NA/JL art style), Green Lantern, Superman and Flash. Cyborg from Teen Titans too if you want to count that as part of that general cartoon era. As for Keaton there's a normal and an unmasked variant planned for the Flash movie to go along with the Batmobile that will fit 7" figures inside.
>>10326341I thought he was Plague until I opened the image
>>10326341i really hope the movie bombs.WB needs to stop smoking crack and thinking they're geniuses.
>>10326608If it wasn't for the goofy looking head I may have gotten him for a Spawn character. Even now he could pass off as a mook that Plague infected.
>>10326341If human shit was a superhero
>>10326597Yeah they just showed off the "Keaton" Bats after I asked about it and it looks nothing like him. Which is really disappointing to me. Like if you're going to try and mimic any actor for any character, that'd be one of them.
>>10326119>actor is older>toy doesn't even try to mimic that
>>10326119>>10326774I just don't get it, like even the 12 inch figure looks more like Keaton purely because the lips are bigger/more pouted? Idk it's just not even close, basically just looks like the arkham batman
>>10326774Not that noticeable from a mouth and chin
>>10326779Do you think 12in is easier to sculpt than 7? I do
>>10326170>t. dollar store connoisseur
>>10316827BODE
>>10326121on some handsome squidward shit
>>10327843
>>10327871KEK
>>10327871LMAO'D
>>10327938The ASS-thetics would most assuredly be ruined by the inclusion of the massive diapers all figures use as a prerequisite.
>>10327938Sadly I am not sure Todd can use Tiffany anymore as she was possibly ruled derivative of Angela which he no longer owns. Not 100% sure on that though
>>10329149The diapers make the asses look bigger though.
>>10329612Looks fugly from the front.
>>10330504Now we know you trollin'
Would you pay 29.99 for a half painted figure? I wouldn't.
>>10330504Right!
Was there ever an official reason the Skyrim and Fallout stuff was abandoned?
>>10331356This is true across the figure industry except in very rare circumstances: when lines die they are just never spoken of, no reason is given, no "this line is ending now" is said, because a reason would burn bridges, saying the line is ending would close doors. If you work in business, you would know why.
>>10330676I love the sculpt but I find she has some issues getting her arms and hands into realistic poses for holding her guns. Maybe I'm just a poselet, I don't know. Maybe it's partly not having much of a faux-butterfly joint range.Also I kind of feel like you basically have to have 2, one to actually play with and one to keep pristine because I feel like using her legs a lot will wear out that diaper and stressing the head could be an issue with how heavy the hair is (and I was never a mint in box collector, but the figure looks so good I just don't really want to cause it to degrade or lose its look in any way)
>>10331356probrably cause 76 flopped, and skyrim is "too old" for figures
>>10331383Goalduin just released last year
>>10331391but knowing now, compared to back then, alduin was clearly a beta test for Mcfarlanes dragon's lines.
>>10330676
>>10331431It can be covered by the smartly placed chain in the shespawn figures case
>>10331305Can someone explain what leads amazon to change the price on a figure that isn't even out yet 2 times?
>>10332516Algorithms based on popularity. People are buying? Price automatically goes up.
>>10332544Here's the problem: Amazon has the preorder price guarantee, so people always get the lowest of the prices on preorder, so raising it to 29.99 and then going back to 24.99 does literally nothing.
>>10332544I've seen shit go down in price when everyone was buying it. Recent Uncle Scrooge drama with Disney censoring and banning one of the most famous storyline made everyone rush out and buy it before it's gone forever. The premium edition went from $225 (msrp is $250) to $125 in less than a day and stayed at that price for 2 days.Same with the Mcfarlane AMP suit. When the movie was finally released, it hit almost half price and then apparently sold out, because its page disappeared for about two months. Didn't reappear until a month or two ago.I almost bought another one, because the AMP suit is a hell of a great toy, but I already own 3 (one mcfarane and two mattels). Might just buy the flame thrower version, but that's full price.
>>10332651i have it.Good toy, but not worth owning multiples of. might add weapons to it, but only if i see someone else customize it. I'm not one for planning shit out.
>>10332544This should be illegal.
>>10332516>>10332544>>10332585>>10332635>>10332635>>10332665noi sell on amazon, amazon has a price match, amazon is a little bit like ebay (but everything new,) , other sellers can sell, so lets say a figure is place by amazon officially at $30, but i place mine at $44, the amazon automatically matches to $44(but the other way also happens. if i place mine at $22, amazon has to lower it from $30 to $22)
>>10332723>so lets say a figure is place by amazon officially at $30, but i place mine at $44, the amazon automatically matches to $44One can find many, many examples right now where this does not occur, anon, like pic relatedWhen I've seen Amazon price match it's been to line up with sales on Walmart or Target
>>10316827Just found out they brought back Dragons. How hard do you think it will be to find last year's gold label variant?
>>10332960Amazon had the lowest price for the deluxe version of Life and Times, while everyone else had it for $175+. $175 was for used copies. I doubt even eBay had lower prices.So Amazon prices do change, and go down, when shit is selling well.
>>10333308Which one? There's two of them now. That green Eternal that was a McF site exclusive and then this new one they solicited that's a repaint of the Beserker.
>>10333457>That green Eternal that was a McF site exclusiveFuck...
>>10333310No one said they don't change (just that the changes often dont make sense), but they don't automatically match to third party sellers
>>10332544Not true.
>>10319177I bought Exoskeleton for the first time recently. Never found it when I was a kid. It's still a cool-ass toy.
>>10334095This is bad ass
>>10334095I had him as a kid. Loved the attachable armor gimmicks. My favorite marvel toy was a iceman that had the same kinda stuff
I dislike to interrupt the love but there has to be some hate.It is looking like the Spawn line is going to go to $29.99 MSRP for a standard figure later this year, and some retailers already adjusted (Gamestop, EE at first then adjusted back, BBTS) while others are offering this wave at $24.99 for now (Target, Amazon, EE now) but 2 of the 3 indicate they know about the $29.99 price. Was hoping it was just BBTS and Gamestop being dicks and EE copying their move, but that isn't how it looks now. Not even Hasbro is to $29.99 for a standard figure for more niche collector IP like GI Joe Classified and that is frankly obscene for the quality of the engineering on the Spawn line.The actual engineering checks and articulation testing would need to get a lot better to justify that. Like they'd have to actually make the ab crunches work properly getting closer to a normal human range rather than giving a slight bit forward. They should have made sure the arms actually have functioning but not ugly butterfly joints, and the built in thigh swivels at the top are never impeded by the sculpts to the point where you get almost no swivel on some figures. These sometimes aren't even painted accurately when called for (Medieval Spawn for example). For 30 I'd probably sooner buy re-releases of the old McStatues like >>10318840 if they were painted remotely like the originals, as opposed to figures that may have the articulation POA of a modern figure but don't have the proper range, making many of the points of articulation useless. Like I can't even get an ankle rocker out of something like Raven Spawn because of the choice of the soft overlay covering his entire ankles.
>>10335125Not to mention the obvious corner-cutting on paint that figure has.If McFartlane wants to charge $30-35 he needs to up his game on paint and accessories too. More hands, more weapons, alternate heads.
>>10333602yeah, I'm mostly agreeing with the guy and offering an example of how Amazon isn't following prices from other stores, but rather, it's their automated system's algorithm making the change in price, where more purchases = price gets lower to entice more buyers.It seems the highest prices are when it's restocked, few of them are selling, or it's close to selling out (a dozen left).
>>10335125The Spawn line is a collector line for McFarlane. They're sold in comic shops and you can only find them in the seperate collector section at Target/Walmart. So their prices have always been higher, same as NECA, Diamond, Mezco, etc etc.In this case, you can't really compare the Spawn line to Hasbro's stuff, because 99% of Hasbro's stuff are children toys, same as McFarlane's DC figures, thus sold in quanties of hundreds of thousands to millions. Spawn toys are sold in tens of thusands.They're in a completely different market, and since price isn't dictated by Walmart/Target, they're allowed to increase price to where it matches their costs.
>>10335136Frankly I'd want them to focus on the hard part first, actually getting the articulation right. "More plastic" is easy and often McFarlaneToys' go to when they want to up the price, like with She-Spawn, Manga Spawn or Throne Spawn. accessories, hands, heads, etc don't require them to improve fundamentals. You still get the poor poseability. I wouldn't mind paying $30 for good posability and accurate paint.
>>10335484GI Joe is a collector line, anon, even if its Hasbro. The standard figures are still not 30 bucks. And it doesn't matter if they're "allowed" to increase price. What actually matters is if people will pay this increased price, and given how many Spawn figures I've seen on sale, many likely won't.
>>10335473> more purchases = price gets lower to entice more buyers.Large amounts of purchases should indicate demand is high, indicating the item is underpriced compared to its value to the consumer, and thus lead to the market adjusting the price up to get more out of buyers per product sold. Economics 101. Not sure what crazy logic says that if something is selling like crazy you lower the price even more.
>>10335620It doesn't cost more money to articulate the figure better, it requires talent and competence. They have the right joints(well not the hips though), they just haven't implemented them correctly. It doesn't cost extra to leave more room in the torso so that your ball can crunch forward. It doesn't cost extra to have more than 2 ratchet positions in the ankles.People hate on Anthony, but he's 100% right on this.
I was excited about medieval spawn but it looks like shit. Give us III with better articulation
>>10335622>GI Joe is a collector line>in the children toy aisles>full support from Walmart and Target>exclusives to make these stores order more products in the hundreds of thousands to millionsStill literally two different market places for GI Joe and Spawn. Collectors may buy these lines, but the scale in orders between the two lines is lopsided as fuck.Hasbro would not be producing the GI Joe line if they were selling under 100k. McFarlane does it all the time, hence taking DC Direct under their wing.Hell, Hasbro doesn't even sell 1:18 GI Joes anymore because they know it would strip sales away from the 1:12 line. To sell a cheaper toyline would hit their revenue numbers and Hasbro fears upsetting investors if their revenue drops.>given how many Spawn figures I've seen on saleAs pointed out in another thread, low prices, especially from Amazon doesn't mean it's selling poorly. Just last month Amazon was selling the $250 Life and Times of Uncle Scrooge for $125 because people were scrambling to buy the storyline because Disney announced to the creator they were banning the last two issues. It was half off, because of high demand, not because people weren't buying it. This is generally how sales work, hence stores tradtionally holding sales for movie toys when a movie is released. So we often saw a toyline being released for retail price, two months before the movie comes out, but when the movie was finally being shown, they got discounted, to push for dat high revenue stream.Whether something is actually shelf warming or not, and being clearanced off, is a bit more complex than what you think. See the Star Wars sequels and how that shit stayed on shelves for YEARS, and got offloaded to discount stores like Ross, MArshalls, and TJ Max.
>>10335651It actually does in general cost more money, because you have to hire different engineers who know how to do all those things and who also can figure out clever ways to get around issues with sculpts of specific characters' designs to still get good range. These engineers would be more competent and experienced and will thus on average demand higher salaries.In rare cases you will get a talented, experienced engineer who will work for less due to special circumstances (specific working arrangements, working on a property he is a fan of, good work environment, life-balance, etc.), but that is the exception, not the rule.
>>10335665That is a hand painted prototype, the consumer versions looked very good, but never looked THAT good.
>>10333602>>10335473>>10335646I've seen their price lower after I set mine lowWether is selling high or not. Even older figures, I post it low, a day later Amazon lowers theirs. Regardless of how much it's selling.
>>10335671At minimum, half of the GI Joe stuff is relegated to online shops and/or Hasbro Pulse, and even the one big vehicle they did was a Haslab project. And even the stuff that is supposed to be widely available, never really hits stores. You basically never see effectively 80-90% of this stuff unless you buy it online.
>>10335691I can see amazon lowering the price by like 1 dollar if a third party tries to undercut them, but I don't see third party sellers going to 15 bucks on a 25 dollar figure and amazon following suit.
>>10335678Lol if plebeian customizers are able to improve the range of torsos on Mcfart figures, just by popping them apart and chopping bits of plastic away with a dremel, it CANNOT be that fucking hard or demanding to hire someone who knows how to design a toy that skips that step on the customizers end. >Todd paying $10,000 more salary premium for a guy who knows to leave more room in the torso interior for a ball-joint to workKek.
>>10335671Why is Hasbro producing Indiana Jones figures from the old movies if they steer well clear of less than 100k? Or Dungeons and Dragons figs based on that old cartoon? Because guaranteed those aren't selling 100k.Are these two being subsidized by the incoming movies even though they aren't figures directly for those movies?Second I've seen DCMV and Page Punchers in both the collectors section and kids toys sections. Often stores will just shovel anything that isn't moving there to clear out space. It isn't a hard and fast divide.As far as Spawn figures on sale, I was more thinking of the ones that were for single digits on EE or close to that on GS, less so than amazon. Although the $19 Overtkill Amazon had for a bit was a pretty crazy price. (Still not worth it though.) Now $30 Violator I will admit was probably worth it.
>>10335646I'm not an economist or even a store manager, but we routinely see sales for products when shit is at the height of its popularity.Stores like Walmart and Target have traditionally put movie toys on sale the week that a movie is to be released. Why would they put those toys on sale if the movie is going to drive sales like crazy for the next month whether its on sale or not?Because they'll sell a lot more products that way.Dem sexy revenue numbers to make investors happy, because even operating at a loss doesn't matter, hence companies like Amazon not turning a profit for 15 years and still being called one of the most successful companies to ever exist.No doubt, stores like Walmart and Target are turning a profit, whereas Amazon was taking all those losses to gain a consumer base and steal market share away from Walmart and Target.Amazon is making a profit now, but check out dat slim margin.So despite putting shit on sale, they're still making a profit (one way or another).
>>10335702>Dem sexy revenue numbers to make investors happy, because even operating at a loss doesn't matterThese behemoths are probably so bloated and disorganized they no longer need to abide by normal laws of supply and demand and things are sold near a loss just to shoot up temporary revenue numbers even if it hurts true profit in the end. When the general public are the investors I suppose that also hurts since they don't pay attention to how the company is run at all and will do incorrect things like confuse revenue for profit.
>>10335678>It actually does in general cost more moneyIn general, that higher price comes from the amount of pieces that are molded. As we've seen from Kaiyodo, the sculptor is also the engineer. They're not paying more money to engineer that shit. NECA, Hasbro, Bandai, Mezco, etc etc don't have some expert engineer being paid high cash monies to engineer the toy, because they also use already on staff employees doing that shit, if it isn't the sculptor himself doing it too.>>10335701>Why is Hasbro producing Indiana Jones figures from the old movies if they steer well clear of less than 100k? Or Dungeons and Dragons figs based on that old cartoon? Because guaranteed those aren't selling 100k.Indiana Jones is a huge property. That built in fanbase of millions buys shit up just by existing. Animated D&D may not have as many fans, but they still exist in the millions and they hope NEW fans will buy the animated D&D figures simply being cause it has Dungeons and Dragons on the packaging. It's a better tie in than fucking Bananas and Apples having a D&D sticker on them. OR rather, it's no different than how Marvel movie waves feature comic book characters in them. >Second I've seen [... ]Page Punchers in both the collectors section and kids toys sections. It's likely they just incorrectly placed them there or it's one of those endcaps where they also stick DVDs/books/bananas along with the toys to push sales for X. Endcaps are sometimes paid for for marketing purposes.>>10335692Hasbro Pulse definitely does not account for half of merch sold if Walmart, Target, and even Walgreens carries the line. Hasbro's store probably sells fewer units than BBTS. Company stores basically act as a remainder outlet, but at full price.
>>10335729That's even worse then since it means every sculptor who they outsource to for bottom dollar would need to be good at toy engineering, and they definitely aren't. Also the way McFarlane's articulation has its own style still leads me to believe they have a template drawn out by an engineer for the sculptors. Changes like going from ball wrists/ankles to sculpted wrists/ankles was not a bunch of outsourced sculptors getting together and doing it.
>>10335744>That's even worseWorse than what?It's literally how every known company operates, including the highly poseable Revoltechs a small fanbase spooges over.Your fantasy of how toys are made doesn't exist. >template drawn out by an engineer for the sculptorsagain, an engineer doesn't exist, unless you refer to the head art director as that engineer who created the template when sculpting the very first figure in the line. Pic of how a sculptor follows said template, who also decides how much sculpt to leave in, which may or may not be modified when producing the prototypes for the molds.
>>10335754>subby moment
the new wave of McFarlane toys are on sale for 20 bucks each on target.
>>10335830>On clearance before they're out
>>10335830Target doesnt make sense
>>10335754A worse situation for being able to have good articulation than having a engineer that coordinates with the sculptor, because the outsourced peons have to be skilled with getting the best articulation out of figures, which they are not going to be. They're outsourced to save money.
>>10335694One time they had a diamond select statue for 59A third party seller put it for 50, Amazon put theirs for 50. Someone bought the third party one, Amazon went up for 59 I swear I'm not shit posting, I've seen it with other stuff
>>10335924Like i said before, your fantasy of how toys are made doesn't exist.Nevermind most western toy companies want to retain as much sculpt as possible, because that's what most collectors want. There's literally only one company that does it differently, and it's the sculptor himself cutting up his sculpt to add as much articulation as possible.
>>10335950Are the sculptors at, say, Mafex just demon magic wizards who are also great at engineering articulation?Also sculpt and articulation do not have to be at odds, you can have a good sculpt that is preserved while also having good range. You just need to be careful and test your prototypes and alter the sculpt if it is too inhibiting. Then again with stuff like Raven Spawn anyone could've told you the sculpt would've been limiting, they didn't even need to test it.
>>10336271Subby doesn't have the money to buy Mafex toys, he wouldn't know. Also arguing on /toy/ and attempting to play the role of a pseudo-intellectual toy-historian is pretty much all he lives for. You aren't gonna get anywhere by seriously engaging.
>>10336292How can you so well tell who subjectanon is? What are his tics besides attempting to play the role of a pseudo-intellectual toy-historian?
>>10336271>you have to be a wizard to copy articulation on toys seen since the 90s and cut away the sculpt to give enough clearance for the joints to moveWow, i didn't know i was a wizard when i modified my toys to increase their range of motion with this magical staff.I'd gladly offer my services to Hasbro for a cask of applejack and 1 gold piece every full moon.Maybe if my magical powers are great enough, i can curse Mattel some more.
>>10336402Well besides his repetitive talking points, he has a handful of images he constantly re-uses and that>>10335754 is definitely one of em.
>>10336435realistic answer: they're producing toys for a western audience who wants to see better sculpts instead of cuts and negative space everywhere, and don't cater to a autists who live in a fantasy world where articulation engineers exists
>>10336416Nothing is sculpted physically anymore, anon, you need to know how to use CAD software
>>10336457Marvel Legends suffers from re-re-re-re-reusing sculpts. When they're brand new sculpts, they're generally great to amazing.But they're a children's line and to keep costs low, thats what they have to do. Most importantly, they're a publically traded company and its their duty to charge you as much as possible.>Import sculptors are engineers as well as sculptorsDon't even lie.Post any proof for this and i don't mean "toy engineer" like https://slate.com/podcasts/working/2019/07/how-do-a-toy-designer-and-a-toy-engineer-at-hasbro-do-their-jobs Lynsey here. These people figure out how shit is produced, attached, or how paint behaves (and other shit). They do nothing like the fantasy job you think exists.But i do love how you'er just repeating what i said earlier, where an "engineer" is just an art director or another sculptor, and they're not being paid extra or even a high price. They're on staff and every single person is aware that you just need to cut out the sculpt to increase range of motion. Literally costs nothing for the company and most of the time, they aren't even given credit nor royalties, like when McFarlane invented the Revoltech joint in 2001.>>10336461sounds like racism against my proud demonic magic wizard heritage. My magical ability to increase joints motion from 80-90° to 110° is still relevant to toydom!
>>10336441>they're producing toys for a western audience who wants to see better sculpts instead of cuts and negative space everywhereIs that why there are butterfly joints and those giant gaps in their hip joints, or hell even ab crunches? The collectors in the west favor articulation over sculpt. If they didn't, Todd would still be at the head of the pack selling stactions with 12 POA.
>>10336483>When they're brand new sculpts, they're generally great to amazing.Watch Anthony's reviews of new ML sculpts and you'll see him constantly complaining that new body bucks still have articulation flaws and pointing them out. Like that "best spiderman ever" that can't even do splits.
>>10336493>waste time watching a literal who who speaks with the authority of a youtube reviewermight as tell me to visit my local homeless manI have eyes of my own and have thousands of my own toys to know what to expect from new ones. /toy/ itself usually posts their own, so i don't need to waste 5-30 minutes scrubbing through a video to see what i can read in less than 30 secondsSo when they make something that's pretty comic accurate, i'm impressed.>>10336486seethe more that McFarlane had time machine engineers working with dark warlocks to time travel 5 years into the future to steal the Revoltech joint and bring them back in time to put them on their own toys, because time machine engineers and dark warlocks are less costly than demon magic wizards who engineer toy articulation.
>>10336519whole lotta fantasy in this thread with mythical joints that have never been pictured and articulation that can only be created by magical wizard demons
>>10336515The issue was articulation still being flawed on new molds , not comic accuracy
>>10336541He claims some onimusha toy had a revoltech joint if i recall
>>10336555oh, about the splits thing? Who fucking cares if it can't do the splits? That's like bitching about a toy's head not being able to spin 360° (or 270°)
>>10336563Splits are just a test for the possibility of something like a high kick. You wouldn't pose a figure in a split but there are poses like kicks that require near 90 degrees of hip movement to the side to hit
>>10336577I'm glad i don't like ninjas then.
>>10335136Unfortunately, the extra paint is what would bump the price up the most. It still seems like a decent piece though.
>>10336587MK spawn had more paint AND a wash.
>>10336597Yes, but it also had less accessories and was smaller in size.
>>10336597It was also repainted a 1000 times. Most of the Spawn line have been one and done. Violator, Clown, Redeemer, Raven, and Gunslinger are the only ones so far that have been repainted, and aside from Gunslinger only once each.
>>10336610Remove the hammer and shrink that boy, we need paint
>>10336587Anyone eyeballing that who is into customization that can tell me what shade of red acryllic paint that would match his cape and paudrons?
>>10336603if it can do 99.9999% of other poses, who cares. Doing the splits isn't something the character is known for and neither are his ninja kicks.and how far are the legs from even doing the splits anyway? Fuck. This is a rather autistic nitpicky conversation, all because some nutso believes there are articulation demon magicians who charge 50 gold a day to engineer joints for Japanese companies.
>>10336441There are plenty of mafex out there that don't sacrifice sculpt for articulation. Spider Gwen looks good for example
>>10336628>caring about whether a head can rotate 220° instead of a full 270° is low standardsit's actually autism
>>10336627It can't. The ones with the waist crunch instead of ab crunch are fundamentally flawed. And that's their new setup. They tend to get hardly any movement forward with the upper torso ball joint just like mcfarlanes. They both tend to not cut away enough internal material to get good range. And its internal so it isn't like that would ruin the sculpt
>>10336637there's a difference between dynamic poses the character is known for vs random metric for an autist to pretend to have a point
>>10336639>that's their new setupsorry, I buy MLs once in a blue moon now, but they're not following with the engineering set up by the Power Rangers and GI Joes? Because that's how it seemed like to me, and there are ways for those figures to make them pose that way.
>>10335651Anthony says all this shit like what a good articulation should have yet he poses his figures like he has parkinson. Just look at his thumbnails. Anything he says about a figure's articulation is invalid since the dumbass doesn't even know utilize it properly.
>>10336515>So when they make something that's pretty comic accurate, i'm impressed.Tell me in what art is based dat Bonebreaker fig? if you can of course ;)
>>10336640Most characters barely do any dynamic pose at all, maybe we should just go with statues
damn, my local shop doesn't have batmobile for pre-order, what a shame
will there be anymore batman TAS or animated justice league figures?
>>10343016God let's hope not. Those were the WORST feom this already bad line.
>>10336587Inaccurate paint aside, that does look damn good. Shame about the boot and gauntlet.
>>10343019well maybe they will make them better this time
How many more waves does Spawn have in it? I don't see many more.
>>10343080They could do many, many more. So far they've really only done figures based on what's going on currently in the comics. There's dozens of past versions of figures and looks in the comics they could do figures based on.
>>10343260I was thinking more like how much longer will it be able to sell enough to survive. I know it has over 100 issues of stuff that never got toys AND a lot of the old toys they could redo as long as it remains financially viable. Plus they haven't made any figures from King Spawn yet
Do you believe the truth behind the 75% botches, 25% hits meme about McFarlanes? Or do you think its a bit different %s?
>>1034446880/20 rule, dummy
>>10344480its weird hes somehow still released those skeletons
>>10344627what are mythic legion skeletons...skeletons of? those thick ass bones are not human lmao
The old McFarlane's Dragons are pretty good, but its horrifying how modern paint still can't stand up to them at over triple their MSRP
>>10344952idfag about fwoosh or his shitty toys. facts are facts
>>10344986Problem...the batmobile is so cheap it sold out everywhere in hours. He should've made it 80 and used the money to subsidize paint on future figures
>>10335830 Just a heads up, Amazon price matching Target with the preorder prices.
>>10346458Yeah I hate them for that because I already bought Medieval Spawn elsewhere. Also how is a line going to survive if the figures are on sale before they ever come out? Seems like this is pretty much the end
>>10346475How much did u pay for medieval
>>1034648225
>>10336613You paint anons are silly. Why bitch about something you can add yourself, in whatever detail level, in 15 minutes. Give me a good sculpt with detail, neat accessories and I'll paint the sucker myself
>>10346530Lets see your sloppy paint customs, anon. You sure as fuck can't fix that Medieval Spawn in 15 minutes.
>>10346475>Also how is a line going to survive if the figures are on sale before they ever come out?This is a normal thing, it happens all the time for preorder products. I just recently got some money back from Amazon because a NECA preorder I had with them turned out to be cheaper than anticipated somehow. It's no cause for alarm, a number of factors can affect the perceived value of a product even before it's officially released.Also, Amazon's prices are not set manually, they're auto-dictated by an algorithm which changes prices literally millions of times a day (someone calculated this out to prices on each item being updated like every 10 minutes). A part of that is auto-lowering their price if a lower price is detected elsewhere online. So if Target lowered their price, Amazon's price may automatically fall as well. Look up Amazon dynamic pricing if you want to learn more.
didn't realize most of my risers were in use elsewhere and that these would take up so much space. had no idea that i had at least two shelves worth of spawn stuff (a lot of it is not pictured, this is just what i grabbed first). gonna have to figure this out, remember where my tamashii flames are, and figure out a background
>>10346530Timestamp something you painted yourself you lying bitch.
>>10346549>>10346915nta but you two sound awfully insecure and incapable of being able to put forth even a fraction of the effort that underpaid chinese children do on these toys. i'm no davinci and touch up maybe a toy every year or so, but it's easy. you two sound dumb as hell
>>10346725 I posted about walmart pricing shit so illogically it must be via ai and was laughed out of these threads and yet you get off scot free? Not fair
>>10346935Medieval Spawn has huge portions of his gauntlets and boots that need paint and you must paint around the spikes, it isn't a 15 minute touch up
>So what if Todd was too cheap to paint these in full, just fix it yourself & stop criticizing big corporationsJust like the Neca cult. Not surprised, both companies are run by MAGAtards.
>>10346935Did you use primer and sealer?Also I wouldn't exactly say its a great idea to customize a rarer figure like Parallax that would've probably been worth something even out of package in a few years.
>>10347082you mean small companies, McFarlane Toys is like 70 people or less
>>10346935It'd be interesting if more people shared their customs of obviously unfinished figures like Raven Spawn (the axe's paint) or Ninja Spawn
>unpainted plastic?!>AAAAAHHH I'M GOING INSAAAANE
>>10347488Its more like AHHHHHHH THIS IS THE WRONG COLOR I'M GOING INSAAAAAAANE
>>10346912Why don't u have fat violator
>>10347602oh goddamnit i knew i was forgetting something. he's in a box to the right of the shelf, gotta wiggle him in now >>10347055>it isn't a 15 minute touch upmaybe not literally 15 minutes but i don't anticipate it being too difficult or time consuming. the spikes could probably use a repaint anyway >>10347086>Did you use primer and sealer?no. not really necessary there>Also I wouldn't exactly say its a great idea to customize a rarer figure like Parallax that would've probably been worth something even out of package in a few yearsdon't care, my toy looks better than it did before >>10347470i keep meaning to do ninja spawn but in hand it doesn't really bother me like lobo did so i keep putting it off.
After like 20+ years I finally have the original Manga Spawn.
>>10347691The original's better than a figure released in 2022. Sad.
>>10347792only bad thing so far is the gun can't fit the trigger finger. other than that he;s perfect
>>10326341Is Todd planning to do the rest of the team?
>>10346912Looks like you have a good majority of the new Spawn stuff. Which is your favorite and least favorite figure, and why?
>>10348461gunslinger or she spawn are probably my favorites. nothing really gets in the way of their articulation, they're both painted pretty decently, and both have a reasonable number of accessories. least favorite? eeeehhhhhhhhh maybe cy-gor? i got it for cheap cheap but he really can't do anything but the pose i have him in because the engineering and articulation on the torso and crotch overlay look awful in any other position. a real shame. i have the original one and also the raw-10 one and honestly might like both of them more than the megafig. honorable mention to megafig violator: just a ridiculous toy that works better in theory than in practice. i imagine overtkill and cy-gor kinda sucking are a direct response to violator being an almost 4lb beast that has trouble doing much of anything. if those other two were articulated like violator but as light as they are they'd be so much better in every way. the entirety of mcfarlane toys' output seems to be a constant state of experimentation to figure out what works and what doesn't. i assume a lot of it is left up to the factory t b h which would explain the inconsistencies
>>10348491I think the articulation is somewhat dependent on the sculptor with "suggestions" from a style guide and obviously a piece count limit. And of course a final approval or "no, redo it" from the people in charge of the line at McFarlane. From what I understand the factories are basically just robotically assembling what the companies tell them to besides when they make errors
>>10348491Where's throne spawn
>>10349460He has MK11 Spawn
>>10346912Beware, the pose is stretching She-Spawn's diaper. Long term I would not keep her in that pose.
>>10349472I'm gonna stretch your diaper if you keep talking like that
>>10349472literally a hot water bath will revert it back to normal
>>10349504Reducing the amount of "hot water baths" you give your toys is a good idea for several reasons:1. Paint longevity2. Plasticizer breakdown3. Plasticizer off-gassing
>>10347805The Masterverse Savage He-Man makes for a decent modern proxy.
>>10349505Good thing they're not NECA.
>>10349836Even if there is less paint you dont really want what is there to be damaged
>>10349472she's been in that pose for a year and it's fine.
>>10349470Lol throne spawn is completely different retard
>>10350076i assume they're saying i have mk11 spawn and thus no need to have or display throne spawn (which is correct, throne spawn is not on the shelf and i'm not sure what to do with it)
>>10350098ITS DIFFERENT
>>10349505heating up the plastic only quickens the degradation if you're doing it like every day. for hours at a time.Even doing it 500x for 1 minute over 10 years isn't going to do shit. It's like peeing into an olympic pool sized aquarium and fearing you'll kill off the fish.Car interiors use most of the same plastics that toys do, and they can reach egg frying temperatures PLUS exposed to harsh UV lighting for 4-8 hours a day for years before plasticizers start wetting shit up and discoloration becomes noticeable.
>>10350111nobody said it wasn't different
>>10349836Good thing you're an idiot
>>10350149What makes you think cars use the same plasticizers as toys? Some toys start sweating in a couple years under room temperature conditions. There are thousands of different plasticizers and each can react differently.
>>10350174HE'S BREAKA'D CONTAINMENT!THIS IS NOT A DRILL
>>10350823With ANY PLASTICS, you'll basically never know if they'll shit their pants one or 20 years from now, if it hasn't already been produced. A new pigment or paint might fuck up the entire structure. So even companies that charge premium prices can have problems, like Figmas and Revoltechs toys did.Who knows if they even have chemists who actually test that shit, but it can happen even with companies who do have an entire department for chemists like Hasbro and Mattel. It takes about a year to do proper tests for longevity, so it's basically impossible to test for every variable. They still do a lot of tests though and know which pigments/other-chems were considered safe from before.We saw Sony PS4 controllers and few other controllers starting to sweat in less than a year. Wide spread issues, but fixed for later releases. So maybe only the first hundred thousand/million units actually had the problem. The 5-100million units that came afterward had no issue (generalizing here).Still, it's a bit more rare with controllers/remotes/panels/switches, including car, because they generally keep on producing the same shit across 2-10 years. Tons of reuse, in the same colors, in the millions, so there's less that can go wrong. Whereas toy makers release dozens and even hundreds of different toys every quarter in hundreds of different colors.Anyway, most plastics have a documented history. 99% of companies avoids shit plastics and other known problems, because they don't want to piss of their consumer base. This means the plastics are generally going to hold up for decades, under various conditions.It's not like car makers are inventing new plastics all the time just to use on the brand new 2023 XXX model. Nevermind any new plastics they do invent can only be patented for like 15 years, so anyone can use them afterward (if they don't already sell it). Most plastics invented over a century ago are still some of the best you can use today.
Have 15 minutes or so of my life that I can never get back.
>>10351720Neca figures don't even last 10 years and start leaking
>>10352729Which ones? Any idea why?
>>10352737He's lying, he's been shitposting this same garbage in other threads. He's never even owned a neca figure.>>10352729You're full of shit and always will be. Nothing you say is true.
>>10352737Well300 Leonidas leaked V for vendetta leaked Some predators leaked. It's very oily. 300 Leonidas leaked pretty bad. This guy >>10352742Is called necanon. A very strong neca fan. He usually never posts on McFarlane threads.
>>10352778Too bad none of that is actually true. But it's hilarious that you're naming off figures that are 20+ years old. You can't even keep your trolling together.
>>10352783not him but 300 and V for Vendetta are incapable of having figures 20+yo given that the movies came out less than that time period ago.
>>10352783Yeah. They leaked in a span of 10 years I didn't buy them today honey. After 10 years Leonidas and v for vendetta were oily Why are you here? You don't own any McFarlane.you don't own spawn
>>10352803No they didn't. You keep lying about the weirdest shit. And I own more Spawn than you do, I've been buying Spawn figures since series 1. Why are you here? Oh, to troll some more? Bring up another company randomly because you just HAVE to shitpost, right?
>>10352801I'm not sure why neca anon is here. I've posted in spawn threads for many months and never had the displeasure of seeing him here.
>>10352808> Always Denies anything bad about neca....Show your spawn or get out.Show your spawn. I can show mine. Want a picture? I'll post a picture. You either post your spawn or you lied
>>10352801They've been out for well over 17 years.
>>10352822Those movies came out in 2006 so...
>>10352823And it's 2023 now, soooo...
>>10352815Sorry, I don't lie like you do. Here's one of my favorites from the Art of Spawn line.
>>10352836Yeah, not "well over"
>>10352850Doesn't matter, still closer to twenty years than your trolling ass can count.
>>10352853Be more precise in your language in the future and no one will need to correct your dating of the figures.
>>10352859Be less autistic and you won't have to "correct" things that don't need correcting.
>>10352863You'd never make it as a lawyer.
Medieval Spawn should be customized to be more accurate t/f
>>10352725What makes Plague rank so high? Honestly curious, I don't own him. Also surprised to see Ninja so high, I don't recall him reviewing very well. OG Gunslinger should also be higher IMO, B at the very least.
>>10353937Plague is the perfect combination of figure with surprisingly good and unhindered articulation on basically every joint Including the torso and waist - very unlike most figures in the line - and a great look and proper paint application. The hands allow for very fun style poses, so the accessories do their job as well. There isn't much in the way of things I could suggest to improve the figure besides stuff that would take him out of the line's price range. Ninja spawn is a bit like Plague in articulation only with more hindrance, primarily in the ab crunch and waist but in a few other spots as well. He also has the notorious missing paint apps. Those two things drop him a spot but he's fundamentally sound in sculpt and the arm and leg articulation.The problem with gunslinger is that he can't move is hips forward very far without risking tearing the diaper because it is in there very tight against his legs. He also uses the old-style ball ankles and ball wrists which are inset into the boot and gauntlets which makes it harder to get many positions out of them, limiting how dynamic he can get. The torso articulation barely moves at all on mine. He also has the gauntlets where the paint apps are not done precisely and meant to save on the number of paint applications. Just standing there he tends to look good but I would say the articulation drags him down. I can understand someone placing him higher though based on look and accessories. He can hit some fun poses with the guns since his shoulders and elbows aren't too hindered much, if at all.
>>10353989*a figure*his hips
>>10353989That's fair. I usually have my yeehaw cowboy Spawn in very stoic hero stance or striding poses, cause it seems to suit his look. I do get a lot of mileage out of his arms, they're great. I carved out some plastic on the neck and torso of mine to get more range out of the balljoints, and I'm quite happy with them now.Looks like Plague's gonna be my next pickup, his price dropped by $5 recently on Amazon.
