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SS Cheetor and "mainline" Cheetor revealed. Which is your favourite?
>Upcoming Transformers
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>Leaks and rumors
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Last thread : >>10232742
Illegitimate spam thread included for archival/completeness' sake:
>>10235884
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>>10242163
Hey Go anon
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>>10242202
Retards like you will probably buy it anyway.
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>>10242163
So cheap looking. Garbage as usual from Hasblow.

TF is working its way to a slow death from shitty g1 remakes and repaints and movie trash like this.
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>>10242163
So >>10235884 is actually a movie toy? How in the world does it look good? Maybe it's not in the movie actually?
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>>10242163
Why does he have a faceplate
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>>10242213
>How in the world does it look good?

Speculation is that the better looking airrazor is for the mainline, and the more detailed/uglier one is more movie accurate for Studio series.
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>>10242233
She kinda reminds me a bit of Energon Divebomb with how the wings form the legs. Which is awesome, love that guy.
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Unused Cybertron designs got posted by Don Fig. Not gonna lie, I really dig this one.
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>>10242506
This reminds me a bit of Titanium Jetfire in a good way.
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>>10242511
I love this one, the way the arms are arranged to form the fuselage should create a clean underside.
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>>10242564
It's a really cool look. Wish we got more jetformers that did stuff like that.
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>>10242506
the bottom one looks like it heavily inspired legacy bulkhead
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>>10242564
>>10242661
it seems like a pretty simple transformation, maybe we'll get a legacy character like that.
Basically the hip just rotates then splits and snaps onto the chest and the arms tuck in, done.
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Excited to build this. I was going to get the actual studio series toy until I realized just how dogshit the transformation was.
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I got the leo primal. Ill probably open it tommorow. Does anyone have any questions?
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>>10242866
Yeah, why are you such a fucking moron?
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I had a hard time shooting him. Everything casts a shadow. I put him on my kitchen chandelier. He has 4 guns. They didn’t do round pegs on two of them so you have to pull back his leg hair and put them in hexagonal slots. The instructions encourage you to use the legs as little dew claw swords. Half his chest opens up and exposes a tiny matrix.
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>>10242912
His beast face is kind of weird looking, but everything else seems cool
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>>10242912
Nice mistransformed knees here.
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The lion mode is kind of white. The tail is a bit small. I never had the original. I want the mammoth one next.
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Beast WaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-
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>>10242912
>I had a hard time shooting him. Everything casts a shadow.
Put him in your fridge
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>>10242163
>backwards knees

Please tell me that's just a posing error when they transformed it...
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>>10242502
Those are fucking retarded.
>>10242506
That's kinda cool.
>>10242511
That's very 80s anime
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>>10243027
They are
His robot mode legs are the reverse, so his knees swing forward and back
Other shots have them posed right
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>>10242912
>I had a hard time shooting him. Everything casts a shadow.
The trick is to get light into the areas the shadows are.
setting up little things that reflect light should work. Mirror, shiny metal, etc just outside of the frame of the shot can be used to redirect light into some of the areas with harsh shadows.

Also if it's shadows HE casts onto the other objects, the trick is to move the light source further away. The further way, the bigger and fuzzier the shadow gets, meaning at some point it's taking up the entire shot so it's like it's not there at all
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no 3ptfg thread right now so anyone know if theres a KO of this guy and where to find it?
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>>10243192

>>10237611
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>>10242210
>3rd party producing better quality original sculpts
>3rd party producing better quality updates on old sculpts
>3rd party producing better quality direct knock-offs
>3rd party meeting deadlines without extreme rises in cost

>>10242949
The original is incredible I opened my sealed one last night.
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>>10243192
Well there has been KOs in the past but they're long since sold out. You can find Eva repaints of the MP44 mold however if it interests you
https://showzstore.com/4th-party-masterpiece-mp-44eva-optimus-prime_p3451.html
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>>10242819
Yes, it's the BW Megatron transformation, but the end result is still cool.
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>>10242912
The original pisses on this thing so hard.
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>>10243664
*siiiiiip*
Yep
They don't make em like this anymore
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>>10243664
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>>10243664
I dunno man, those lion legs are kinda janky.
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>>10243664
>>10243673
It's because it looks like a cartoon character instead of trying to be "realistic". Transformers are better when they attempt to be accurate to their cartoon.
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>>10242949
Give a few months and then he'll be Pissba the Yellow Lion
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>>10243774
So... a regular lion?
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>>10243717
Depends on the cartoon. The MP line completely fucked itself over trying to be accurate to the G1 cartoon rather than just being cool robots that turned into cool cars.
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>>10243664
>>10243673
Vintage gold plastic tho...
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>>10243717
>Transformers are better when they attempt to be accurate to their cartoon.
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>Motormaster should just be the cab with tiny fake cabs for feet because the cartoon drew him that way & Menasor should be its own bot with the cars plugged onto it rather than car limbs

Said no sane person ever but here we are, Hasbro listens to people who belong in asylums.
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>>10243827
You're being schizo
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>>10243827
Motormaster was no good for accuracy from square one because they changed the transformation scheme from the original heavily. The original didn't even have a seperate trailer.
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>>10243827
Honestly I kinda want just the Motormaster cab by himself. The trailer looks terrible and the combined mode is honestly a bit shit, but the cab/robot is cool.
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>>10243882
Then buy a Nemesis Prime. Lots of those are just cabs.
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>>10243888
Can't I like both? I still want to nab Velocitron Nemesis. Legacy Menasor's core robot/cab looks like a fun toy even if the trailer and its associated combined mode are dreadful. Technically I've already sorted myself for a Menasor with the CW G2 set and the upgrade kit (still less partsforming than the Legacy version, actually works like a combiner, is perfectly adequate in combined mode and the individuals are simple fun toys), I just think that as a standalone toy Legacy Motormaster himself looks fun.
In any case an all-in-one accurate MM is impossible. It'll either be HUGE in robot mode or pathetically undersized in vehicle mode.
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I want a new cheetor but the SS just looks off and the deluxe has those ugly as shit back legs. Paintjob wise I feel like I could do more with the SS though.
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just started collecting TF. why is the Skywarp and Thundercracker 2 pack so god damn expensive?
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>>10243973
Supply and demand
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>>10243973
Artificial scarcity
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>>10243922
Since they're movie toys, I'm sure they'll get repaints.
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>>10242985
I love Beast Wars so much, why do these design hold up so much and why the movies looks so cheap
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>>10243973
I think those were around the start of COVID, shit was either over or under supplied. I hated passing them, and Netflix bee. Got stupid lucky and found Netflix soundwave at a ghetto ass Walmart.
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>>10243827
yeah I remember bitching about my first menasor toy too
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>>10243827
>says this
>Motormaster is universally considered by everyone to be one of the greatest toys of the year and the only thing probably preventing him from being #1 on everyone's list is Victory Saber
Does it ever get boring being wrong all the time?
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>>10243827
>also the cars on the legs should be on the back where nobody can see them
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>>10243973
On a similar problem, just started collectiong some TF, the only way to get Skywasp is to buy that triple pack, is there no other way to get a new one?
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>>10243973
because voyagers now cost 34 a piece, so they'd be about 70 bucks normally, and then you're trying to buy toys from literally 2 years ago.
A 50%-65% markup isn't that bad.
You MIGHT be able to get them down under 100 if you're fine with used and waiting for a good ebay auction
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SS86 Megatron should just become a flak canon.
It can keep a lot of his transformation without running afoul of orange tip laws
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>>10244180
A title relative to the rest of the line only means anything if the rest of the line isn't shit.
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>>10244180
>people still don't get that Menasor is Motormaster's super mode
Staggering how large the anti-fun crowd is around here
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>>10244211
It looks like a gun while also not actually being one and also is Nazicore, but it still suffers the "not mobile altmode" issue unless they just gave him a platform to move on, in which case you just end up as a tank again.
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>>10244229
>unless they just gave him a platform to move on
So Galvatron?
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>>10244233
Exactly. Even in 1986 they understood a gun wasn't a viable altmode.
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>>10244229
there is nothing wrong with immobile alt mode. It can be a cool way to balance his fire power. Its one of the appeals of Galvatron.
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>>10244259
Galvatron can fly and use his cannon in robot mode. Even for him, transforming is just so he can style on people.
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If yr near by, I saw a crasher at the Carbondale Walmarts. 2 shadowstrips too.
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>>10244279
i always head canon'd that Galvatron and Megatron were way stronger in alt mode, they just couldnt move on their own.
It was like a method to focus their firepower.
Like the transformers equivalent of a giant mecha whipping out an oversized railgun and having to put down anchors just to fire it.
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>>10244290
Those are inly an issue if you fight on a planet to begin with.
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>>10244290
I thought it was canon that they are stronger in their alt modes. That's why they transform.
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>>10244211
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>>10244183
You can try to track down that Waruder Botcon set though I'd imagine that's even more expensive.
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>>10244404
Fusion Cannon uses fucking antimatter pulled from another universe so that seems unlikely.
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>>10244290
>>10244404

>His fusion cannon can convert any small amount of matter into large quantities of explosive nuclear energy. The cannon can fire a blast up to 12 miles and release enough energy to flatten a small town. Megatron can use his internal circuitry to connect the cannon interdimensionally with a black hole, where it can draw on anti-matter as its power source. The blast from this is far greater, but it creates a tremendous strain on Megatron to do this for even one blast.

it sounds like he can ONLY do the black hole thing in gun mode since it specifically mentions his internal circuitry.
But then again, he doesn't shoot out of the same thing in gun mode.
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Bomb Burst into Bugly, Iguanus into Finback, Submarauder probably needs a new mold. I just want the decepticon pretenders finished (also commander class thunderwing WHEN)
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I found these weirdos at Ross today. Sideswipe is my third version of this mold but I'm a fan of it so it doesn't really bother me. The knees on my copy are a bit loose but not enough to make posing any difficult.

Maximal Skywarp on the other hand I'm really in love with, even if truthfully I'm not that big of a Beast Wars fan. I do have the original Kingdom Airazor somewhere around here as well but Bald Eagle Man just has so much more character to him.
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>>10244418
His bio just says that he can link up to a black hole, so the gun mode can do that too.
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>>10244430
Wouldn't that be pretty much a new mold since you have to replace the head, arms, torso, and legs?
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>>10244430
skullgrin can EASILY be retooled into finback OR submarauder
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>>10244428
it funnels the cannon energy though his other barrel.
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>>10244430
I just use Skywasp as Bugly
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>>10244430
>Iguanus into Finback
???
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>>10244443
They could probably retool Bomb Burst into a number of other guys since most transform the same way
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>>10244450
That seems more like a shared engineering thing. Although since you can change the flavor out with thee shells' details and the particular molding details that tell what kind of vehicle it is, it should feel better than WFC examples of that.
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>>10244438
I was thinking more along the lines of the “massive retooling but shared engineering” thing we’ve been doing for a few years
>>10244439
Yes but skullgrin sucks unfortunately
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>>10244461
Most cases of "but X sucks" that happened in the last 5 years or so was because they split the difference between that and another release planned later on.
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If they did a Sunstorm, would you want it with the Seige Seeker mold or the Earthrise Seeker mold?
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>>10244474
2025 Starscream
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>>10243673
https://youtube.com/shorts/zkxIvCEEEKY
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>>10244474
Either Siege or new mold. His first appearance was on Cybertron and his promo comic was also set there.
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>>10244439
Skullgrin is dogshit, genuinely awful.
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>The near-future Airazors split the difference of Airazor's androgynous look with one being more girly and the other being more buff
>Airazor(male) still has bigger thighs than Kingdom
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Trap Airazor toy when?
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>>10244551
Most of them are. Transformers toys usually don't mold genitals in.
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>>10244554
Then how can I tell she's a trap?
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>>10244558
If you focus really hard, it will speak to you.
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>>10244551
the original airazor toy was a reverse trap
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>>10244601
I don't want a reverse trap. I want a cute femboy
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>>10244604
Stop being a degenerate.
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>>10244604
Legacy Road Rocket
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>>10244606
but it's my hobby
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>>10244617
Being that way isn't a hobby, it is a crime.
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>>10244615
That kinky bastard.
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>>10244620
that's what makes it sexy
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>What if they recolored a guy into every other character with that name? And then every character who shared a mold with every one of those other versions?
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>>10243258
>3rd party

Aren't those illegal? Also the same endless G1 crap?
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>>10244622
Your kind groom youth with your cancer.
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>>10243258
>>3rd party meeting deadlines without extreme rises in cost

I collect 3Ps, and lol. We're at the point where Legends scale figures cost $80+.
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>>10244675
>bug girl slipstream
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>>10244439
pic related is the easiest Skullgrin retool. They have the same pants even.
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>>10244413
Yeah, i think i'm just gonna end up buying either the pack or lose figure on ebay
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>>10244686
But isn't he an Autobot? Why would he have a bad guy looking altmode?
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>>10244675
Out of that person's designs, this is easily one of my favorites. It feels like a good mix of what makes the original interesting, the appeal of insects, and appealing colors.
The only concern might be the usual beast mode things since the antennae are a bit too full for a female, but I guess you can ignore that.
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>>10244675
Do the Ladybug Deluxe Insecticon we never got
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>>10244718
>The only concern might be the usual beast mode things since the antennae are a bit too full for a female
It's a robot in disguise
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>>10244180
>greatest toys of the year
>Motormaster
are we talking about the same Legacy Motormaster? or do you enjoy being retarded all the time?
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>>10244743
Yeah. Such things have been around since Beast Wars, which is why I said you can ignore it.
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>>10244675
Suggestively placed groin insect legs for when she is alone and bored ...

Captcha sjwyar
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>>10244686
I would kill for a Longtooth. I had one as a kid I got from a yardsale and I've loved him ever since.

>>10244700
there's a theory that he got swapped for Stranglehold
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>>10244775
>there's a theory that he got swapped for Stranglehold
I feel like that's a pretty weak theory
there's not a whole lot to back it up other than "autobots are humans"
but cancelled concept art revealed they were planning the autobots to be a LOT more animalistic too, it just didn't finish that way.
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>>10242163
>decide to check out a local target for shits and giggles in the middle of a snowstorm
>the entirety of the legacy evolution deluxes are there
>buy them all, but they’re not ringing up
>they just say “fuck it” and give them to me for 75% off
Holy shit I lucked out bros, also needlenose is surprisingly solid, despite his targetmasters being actually nothing
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>>10244786
"Autobots are Humans" seems like a pretty strong case.
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>>10244823
But Stranglehold doesn't look very Autobot-y. He's got that weird barbarian/gay porn star thing going
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I just want a new Gears already.
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I want to see his toy already
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>>10244832
And a walrus monster with huge teeth and a skull belt is?
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>>10244838
He's not a Walrus MONSTER. He's just a Walrus man
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>>10244843
Lizard man is a monster.
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>>10244847
My penis is a monster
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>>10244854
If Hasbro had balls at the time, they would have modeled a Pretender shell on that.
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>>10244686
I would love this retard.
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he looks like he's trying to blend in with the battle beasts and I like that.
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>>10244823
starscream also got a human mode
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>>10244875
Starscream feels like he would do that even if it was an official rule instead of design trends since he is the sex idol of the Decepticons and non-conformist.
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>Long time no see, Prime. Galvatron isn't around, so that makes me Leader of the Decepticons!
*Starscream gets dogpiled by pretty much the entire 1987-1989 cast*
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>>10244881
the basic 89 pretenders were the following
3 humanoid classic autobots and 1 humanoid classic decepticon

3 regular decepticons and 3 regular autobots
but after that there's no consistency
Decepticons had 2 monsterous shells and one humanoid shell. Autobots had 2 humanoid shells and one monsterous one.
Decepticons had 2 animals and 1 vehicle
Autobots had 2 vehicles and 1 animal.
Decepticons had 2 ground alt modes and 1 sea mode. Autobots had 1 air, one ground, and one sea mode.
So unless the original intent was straight up swapping shells with inner bots, there's no way each character wasn't deliberate.
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>>10244899
>Decepticons had 2 ground alt modes and 1 sea mode. Autobots had 1 air, one ground, and one sea mode.
Sure the "Decepticon air superiority" was already nuked when you had Swoop, Powerglide, turncoat Jetfire, Aerialbots, and toy-only Whirl, but this is funny.
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>>10244881
>he is the sex idol of the Decepticons
Just because women draw porn of him doesn't make him a sex icon, you homosexual degenerate
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>>10244926
He gets upset when Megatron gets a girlfriend.
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>>10244930
Do you mean he gets upset when Megatron literally replaces him as his 2nd in command?
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Will we ever get an actual Pretender toy that isn't shit?
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Any chance SS Bumblebee Optimus gets rereleased any time soon? Maybe with the new movie?
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>>10244978
She is called a Pretender, but she is just a Beast Wars who peak cheaking design.
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>>10244993
Maximals/Predacons developed their organic transformation tech from Pretender tech.
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>>10244992
A SS RotB Optimus is more or less guaranteed, and judging by the design I would expect it to be fairly similar to the Bumblebee one. I wouldn't expect a straight reissue though. I'd wait and see if the SS RotB Optimus is good enough for you.
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Wasn't there meant to be a Legacy Wave 4 with Cheetor, Wheeljack, and Twincast?
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>>10244434
I found a set at Ross too today. I thought I was hallucinating, but it was real.
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>>10245031
That was really outdated and entirely incorrect data
it's looking more and more like it was some listings that got shoved into other lines. Remember there's a "mainline" cheetor for RotB and a "Mainline" Wheeljack along with Studio Series for some of them.
I'm guessing Hasbro didn't have a name for the line yet so it was just listed as Legacy.
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Mods continue to be the largest fucking faggots on this website only on this board.
Maybe if I spam racial slurs or shit up the thread with porn these worthless shits will do their fucking job considering there is active admitted trolling in the fucking OP that they once again, refuse to remove. But they're clearly here because there are posts being deleted, so they're just sucking the cock of a known and admitted troll instead of doing their fucking jobs.

Gotta ask again gofaggot, why are your principles so weak? Why did you bend the knee to us and keep the pastebins?
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>>10245090
Meet people in the middle of the road so cars can pass to both the left and the right in opposite directions.
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>>10245101
white line is in the middle of the road
that's the worst place to drive
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>>10244675
>"How does the transformation work?"
>fuck it idc
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>>10245057
They apparently just got dumped with a bunch of exclusives, first that and now people saying Netflix Primal and Sparklers Seeker are showing up. I don't check there very often but I guess I'll have to stop by and see.
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My first impressions of ss82 ratchet are quite good, I'm a sucker for light piping. Feels and looks good in bot mode, haven't transformed it yet, I'm going to refer to this as my combat model ratchet since I don't have any transformers in this style. So yeah, studio series is still great in my opinion. Kinda wish we would get a few generation selects but there are plenty of figures out.
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>>10245472
Talk about a shitty bunch of packs to get
I guess the sparkless might be worth grabbing for customizing
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>Fedex keeps losing my Victory Saber

I never imagined they were this bad. I'll probably have to ask for a refund and get it from ebay. I even made sure the address was correct on every attempt and they still fuck it up.

I might ask for Deathsaurus refund and I'm sure as hell not backing more haslabs
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>>10245472
>Netflix
Positively devilish if Netflix Soundwave shows up in one of these stores so all hell can break loose even more than over Cosmos
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>>10245530
lol, doubtful
netflix primal/rattrap 2 pack shelfwarmed HARD, same with sparkless.
Pretty much the only thing that DIDN'T shelfwarm was Soundwave and Bee
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>>10245547
I know but it would be the funniest outcome
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>>10244670
>Aren't those illegal?
To make? It's Muddy Waters much like anything to come out of China. To buy as a consumer? Lolno.

>The same endless G1 crap
3rd party stuff has been branching out into Beast Wars, Bayverse, Unicron Trilogy, and even some Prime stuff since everyone relevant in G1 already has like 5 MP-scale figures and 12 legends scale figures made of them. If only companies would go back to doing CHUG scale stuff too.
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>>10245567
Cool bootleg, faggot.
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>>10245569
>Cool bootleg, faggot.
What toy is it a bootleg of?
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>>10245567
>To buy as a consumer?
>>10244670
most (but not all) 3rd party toys are illegally producing toys based on intellectual property they don't have the rights to use, yes.
If they're original sculpts with original designs that are only loosely inspired by the original, it's fine.

Like the bludgeon that turns into a walker tank, honekumoki
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>>10245570
are you trolling or are you literally too young to remember beast wars?
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>>10245602
What pieces from that toy are used in the TransArt version?
>gun is a different more show accurate design
>fingers are jointed
>legs actually have articulation at the joints and can fold in
>completely different arm connection
>thighs aren't hollow and have a separate assembly so you have actual thigh rotation instead of just a balljoint
>has an actual chest swivel

So the "bootleg" is better?
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>>10245617
>>10245567
>>10245570
Don't argue with the resident retard, anon, you'll waste your time.
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>>10245567
They're really going to make modern versions of every other fucking TM2 before they do Blackarachnia, aren't they...
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>>10245620
This is a Go-anon thread, I don't give a shit if the bootleg whiner spends the whole thread whining about 3rd Party figs.
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>>10245617
>What pieces from that toy are used in the TransArt version?
That's not what a bootleg is.
You're confusing bootleg and knockoff
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>>10245631
They're the exact same thing. Even the cucks at TFWiki describe 3P as "IP infringing items".
Also reminder that IP law has literally been hijacked by Disney for the sole purpose of having a creative stranglehold on the West, and it is morally righteous to break it.
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https://www.walmart.com/ip/Transformers-Legacy-Velocitron-Speedia-500-Collection-Deluxe-Autobot-Cosmos-Action-Figure/308373193
buy buy buy before he's gone-gone-gone
I'm shocked they put him back up
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>>10245632
bootleg IS IP infringing items
Knockoffs are fake duplicates trying to pass off as the original product.
Bootlegs are just anything that attempts to look like IP that belongs to someone else.

Originally that's not what bootlegs were, 50+ years ago, but that's been the definition since the age of the internet.
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>>10245631
Bootleg implies the figure was stolen from someone/someplace. Did they steal those CAD designs from Hasbro/Takara?

Knockoff implies that it's an inferior version of an existing product. Are you really going to say the TransArt Tarantulas is worse than the old BW figure despite having better articulation/details?
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>>10245639
they illegally reproduced (stole) the designs, yes.
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>>10245640
From where? Those are CAD designs they made in-house. They aren't the property of Hasbro.
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>>10245642
That's not how it works.
Just because you copy something by hand doesn't make it different than dragging and dropping a file.
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>>10245358
Airplanes are "put the robot underneath an airplane", so presumably "put the robot underneath a moth".
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I can't believe that Airazor is going to end up being the character I have the most copies of.
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>>10245649
are you fucking retarded? the chink bastards are making their own shit, whether or not it’s based off “muh IP” is irrelevant. you’re talking about the definition of bootleg and knockoff, which most 3rd party figs are not. we refer to them as such, but not in the traditional meaning of bootleg and knockoff.
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>>10245767
Reply to this if you thing the Minerva on the right is as beautiful as the one on the leftt
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>>10245791
You shoulda seen me looking at em, trying to tell any flaws. Im just glad it's over and she's home now. I've been looking since August man, now we just wait for elita 1 and the next exclusive- galaxy shuttle.
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>>10245774
Damn, you bootleg cucks sure get anally defensive whenever your kind are rightfully made fun of kek.
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>>10245697
Just wait until they announce furai airazor
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>>10245625
But why would you keep arguing with a wall? you'll end up as retard too, learn to ignore.

Also, both threads are straight trash.
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>>10245840
Why do you white knight these trolls? This is why this board isn't getting better.
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>>10245833
>Furai Airazor
I might know what I'm doing with my second Furai Windblade now...
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Earthspark Skywarp is agressively cursed. Inherited the issues that all Cyberverse seekers that were not Starscream using it years ago had in not being how they looked on top of this one not even having the correct colors for her.
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>>10244670
It's a grey area. But it has happened that dealers of toys have traveled to other countries and had their 3rd party items taken away by customs listed under bootlegs.
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>noo just because it doesn't have the logo and he's called something different, he's pretty much the same thing as Superman with the same powers and everything. He can't exist!
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>>10245697
Catch up.
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>>10245767
Man. Fuck you for getting two when some of us get none.
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>>10245904
He is nothing like Superman except maybe the powers
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>>10245926
>All three versions of TM Airazor while I just have one
I don't think that is possible. What is your Airazor army looking at now?
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>>10245951
The only similarities between Superman and Homelander are super strength, flight, heat vision, and super hearing. Superman has a much larger pool of powers (ie: Frost Breath) and weaknesses, let alone character growths/backstory
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>>10245974
So he is faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive, able to leap tall buildings in a single bound.
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>>10245951
and third party figures have nothing in common with hasbro except a similar appearance.
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>>10245986
Which is why they are illegal. Homelander looks nothing while Superman, and Superman doesn't look like Moses.
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>>10245991
>cape, tights, white guy
that's it. Deadpool and Deathstroke are just similar in appearance too. They don't use the autobot logo or their specific transformation designs, they make their own.
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>>10244747
He's right though. What Legacy toy was better than Motormaster? Never mind Legacy, he's up there with the best of any of the WFC Trilogy years.
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>>10245999
Deadpool is well-known for being a Deathstroke ripoff. His wacky personality came out to make him distinct.
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>>10244211
Sure, I'll take that. That's a great idea.
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Remember the child that was shot had a Motormastor toy to begin with, so the entire "Transformers guns are bad because they can be mistaken for real guns" is a lie.
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>>10243973
Give it till 2024. 40th anniversary is guaranteed to redo the main cast, and after the botch job that was ER Starscream, I welcome it.
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>>10246024
>Pretender Starscream as a retool of Metalhawk comes out in 2023
>The actual one comes out the year after for Aniversary reasons
Devilish, Hasbro
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>>10244461
Hey now, only one of his modes is complete ass.
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>>10246004
a rip off isn't the same as copyright infringement
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>>10246037
It can be mistaken for the look and feel of the original, so it is copyright infringement. It simply isn't worth the cost of battling in court.
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>>10246037
Tell that to DC and Fawcett
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>>10245945
I got one, that is the store. There were five, check the Walgreens around my local area. Lol, like I'd buy two when I know other people want one.
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>>10245602
Actual retard
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Does anyone else keep heariung the power puff girls theme song in their head whenever you look at Dead End's legs
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>>10246070
Okay, I forgive you then. Hope you enjoy it, you lucky dog you.

Still bummed I never can find even ONE near me at a reasonable price. Not worth $60-80 from some eBay scalper.
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>>10246107
No
But that's mostly because I don't remember the Powerpuff girls theme song
His legs are def weird though
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>>10246021
That's an urban legend
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>>10246136
It's because he just recycles Dragstrip's transformation which uses the spoilers as feet, but Dead End's spoilers are not where near big enough to pass for feet.
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>>10246141
thats part of it, but I think it's also because of the weird curvature on his lower leg
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>>10246111
I'm in southern Illinois, so maybe they are still rolling out? I know it means nothing if you aren't in America. If I could, I would help you out. Maybe give the BST thread a shot? Like idk, a middle man or something?
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>>10246003
Nah, his trailer base sucks
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Metalhawk and Twincast are listed on BBTS now

I guess we know some of the stuff that will be revealed next week
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>>10246245
Retool of Starscream or Pretool of Starscream?
Take your bets!
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>>10246245
Why do they keep doing Metalhawk?
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>>10246273
He's the only Autobot pretender anyone cares about
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>>10246273
He's the leader(laughs)
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>>10246245
Oh boy, I bet Twincast comes with ONE cassette. We're still missing one of Soundwave's most well known cassettes, and nearly all of Blasters. At least one more four pack is needed to get us close.
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>>10246283
Blaster's cassettes are just tools. It took until 2010s for any of them to get focus, and it was unrelated to Blaster.
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>>10246287
Well yeah. But I liked Ramhorn in the cartoon.
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>>10246283
Twincast will come with Rewind, of course
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>>10246298
Rewind came with Shattered Glass Blaster. Twincast will come with Steeljaw just to fuck with us.
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Because of the gang-molding meme, there won't be a Rosanna or Flip Sides this time around. Unless they use that as an excuse to make a more girl-looking mold for them.
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>>10245822
>NO YOU CANT ENJOY 3RD PARTY TOYS BECAUSE ITS ILLEGAL YOU HAVE TO BUY THE 30 DOLLAR DELUXES AND ENJOY THE TRANSLUCENT BREAKAGE AND YELLOWING
please, just stop dick riding Hasbro so much that you become an armchair lawyer to defend the billion dollar corporation, you fucking faggot.
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>>10245014
I like to makeup bullshit too.
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>>10246311
I hope Hasbro lays that fag off, amirite bros?
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>>10246298

>Twincast will come with Rewind, of course

Mother fuckers...
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>>10246003
Personally I've enjoyed a lot of the WFC trilogy, honestly. Warpath and Grapple stick out to me.
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>>10246315
Actually thats canon in a few places.
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>>10246330
Transformers isn't canon.
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>>10246331

This is Transformers. Everything is canon.
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>>10246332
Funpub doesn't have the loicense anymore
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>>10246335
Its still a canon continuity stream.

Everything is canon. Some stuff is just shuffled off to some forgotten timeline/universe. Thats how the TF multiverse works.
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>>10246326
Likely to be Rosanna since the clear plastic for the chest should have a redish hue, and Rosanna is only humanoid cassette that could give them those colors. It should be flipsides since she's the most appropriate choice, but her clear plastic color would look weird on Twincast
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>>10246307
That was Shattered Glass Rewind
Totally different
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>>10246210
Yeah no shit, you're cobbling together a base from some combiner parts. Stop doing that. Good thing Motormaster is a fully functioning toy without any of that though, isn't it?.
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>>10246258
How about pretool of Thunderwing
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>>10246381
I feel like they would either use Jhiaxus for efficiency or make Thunderwing a Leader class.
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>>10246003
>What Legacy toy was better than Motormaster?
Kneel.
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>>10246384

>or make Thunderwing a Leader class.

I wish....
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>>10246391
Too much white.
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>>10246391
>nice jet mode
Close but no. Good toy though.
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>>10246331
>not cannon
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Never liked Waspinator that much, but for some reason his color variants or his transmetal looks, actually look appealing, does anyone feels like this about other figure?
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>>10246276
What about Cloudburst? That Amazon wanted to jump his bones bad in the comics
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>>10246279
He's got too many toys. I want other Pretenders
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>>10246368
That trailer better do something!
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>>10246415
Canon. The accepted holy writings by the church.
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>>10246398
Nobody gives a fuck about Jhiaxus' alt mode, it was drawn inconsistently in every issue and generally looked like a flying bath tub. Meanwhile Motormaster butchered Menasor, the most important mode.
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>>10246307
>>10246346
It actually is. The color scheme is all off. This isn't like Flamewar, Delta Magnus, or Slicer where at most Hasbro tweaked the color of the symbol.
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So are those rumors of a Thunderclash out of a heavily retooled Motormaster looking at all likely?

>>10246381
This figure is the only time the two share a mold. Normally it's Thunderwing and Dark Shadow.
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>>10246424
Isn't Skullgrin at the same number of toys? Bludgeon might pass, depending on how strict you are with your definition.
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>>10246548
Yes, no more toys for him either. Where's Carnivac or Roadblock?
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>>10246463
Probably holiday prime
Because of the back wheels, a small pic might have mislead
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>>10246553
Ultra Pretenders are difficult to do since their gimmick is a vehicle shell unless you want to just make that their normal vehicle mode. Carnivac I have no idea why he hasn't happened though. Seems like an easy recolor from BW Wolfang, Cybertron Snarl or Titans Return Wolfwire.
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>>10246564
Make them triple changers
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>>10246606
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>>10246564
why not make them one vehicle that splits into two robots and combine into a bigger robot?
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>>10246607
I get what they are going for, but those colors are just awful. Definite peg/hole shape issue.
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>>10246609
They did that with Battleslash and Roadtrap and they hated them so hard they did Flywheels as a single unit the next line.
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>>10246564
>>10246606
>>10246607
>>10246609
Inner robot is faithful adaptation
Outer vehicle becomes a weaponizer.
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>>10246564
>>10246606
Make the vehicle shell out of modulator parts that can be used as armor on botmode.
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>>10246613
no you fucking retard, one vehicle, two robots, combined robot
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>>10246420
I'm so glad I jumped on the botcon waruder set when it got down to $33.
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>>10246632
Know that I am Razorclaw and I am a bug chaser!
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>>10246420
I get happy seeing the waspinator family together
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>>10246627
Oh my bad
I was thinking vehicle pretenders
Ultra pretenders would just be like potp, but instead of a voyager inside a leader, it's a deluxe inside a voyager with armor parts to make the vehicle shell
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>>10246391
He's so ugly tho but that mold is really nice
I hope he get's a darker recolor with better "alt Mode"
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>>10246648
He'll probably either be retooled into metalhawk, studio series wfc starscream, or thunderwing
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>>10246660
>studio series wfc starscream
Really? I have the Skywarp based on that, and it feels very different.
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I got two Flamewars by mistake, thoughts on what to do?
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>>10246789
scalp it of course
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desu it kind of sucks that Menasor's legs aren't reversible because the way Dead End and Break Down transform make them look pretty decent as feet.
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>>10246789
return it of course
>t. received a 2nd siege omega supreme by mistake
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>>10246856
I wish they split into 2 pieces like the arms. The front of the car could attach to Menasor's foot and move with it.
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>>10246426
A trailer, base and combiner bits all in one? You ask too much of poor Hasbro, anon.

>>10246458
Hasbro clearly didn't give a fuck either with the giant cavity, head staring though the cockpit and untransformed arms fully hanging off the jet. Bot mode is fantastic yeah but when one mode might as well not exist, a transformer can only be considered so good.
And I'm sorry you didn't get the Menasor you wanted but the one we did get turned out good and Motormaster is the best part of it. Combiner Wars seems more to you taste, so go enjoy that one buddy.
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>>10246463
>This figure is the only time the two share a mold. Normally it's Thunderwing and Dark Shadow.
I was being facetious
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>>10246004
No, his wacky persona was 100% due to the fact that Joe Kelly wanted to write Spider-Man, to the point that he turned a wife beater like Deadpool into a wacky comedy hero rip-off of Spider-Man purely to make people who were sick of the never ending Spider-Clone saga to read Deadpool as an alternative and ultimately force Marvel to give him a Spider-book to write.
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>Hasbro slaps a label on the box
Ha ha thanks Hasbro ha ha
>Paint App on Gold chest part of Leo
>Sword parts are atrociously bad
Great
>Mess around with them
>Feel nothing
>Don't even wanna transform to alt modes
Man..I reboxed it and just don't fucking care
This is so immensely underwhelming and bad
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>>10246896
At least you got them, hasbro keeps fucking up my order and nearly two month's later, nothing.
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>>10246899
Cancel and get refund then buy mine lol
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Neat
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>>10246928
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can you don't
if i wanted to see shitty customs i would actually go on twitter
*shudder*
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>>10246930
Sadly no goblin mode images.
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>>10246931
Whomst've'd does thow thought who am?
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>>10246613
Battletrap was Hasbro's Transformer of the Year for 2017
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>>10246936
shows how poor POTP was desuuu
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>>10246789
make them kiss
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>>10246896
I felt this same feel when I got Haslab Galactus. Posed him and stuck him on a shelf, then didn't touch him again until last week when I sold him.
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>>10246902
I'm almost tempted, but my trust in anonymous exhange died in the third grade and I haven't recovered. Fuck ballons.
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>>10246613
what the hell gaslighting is this? They told everyone in the 2017 Q&A it was a cost issue for Flywheels that wasn't present when designing Battletrap.
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>>10246896
>>10246971
This is why I have no fear of missing out. I don't want to blow hundreds of dollars on a figure that is just going to make me feel down I bought it.
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>>10247078
Flywheels is better off. The individual robot modes for Battletrap's halves caused unnecessary problems.
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>>10247079
I did end up doubling my money but yeah, it's not great when you wait so long for something only to feel nothing when it arrives.
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>bumped at 305
Did the bump limit get increased here or something? That's a welcome change.
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>>10247171
305 posts don't always mean 300 bump-related posts
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So if everyone hates the Autobot human shells, how you you fix them? Turn them into superhero looking guys like Kamen Rider, Ultraman, or Guyver?
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>>10247188
Make them robotic with metal faces like Bay bots
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>>10247188
It's mostly just those first few ones, with the heavily protruding chests
bumblebee, grimlock, and jazz were fine.

Honestly, pretenders are a great concept, they just didn't go all the way.
the toys should have shells with high posability, with the backs open for the robot to slide into like star saber or powermaster prime.
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>>10247171
Bump limit has been at 310 for years newfag
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>>10247208
That seems difficult for late 80s. Like GI Joes had proper articulation, but they didn't have to fit another guy in them.
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>>10247220
The original concept was soft plastic shells so the joints would all be on the robot.
You see the remnants of it with the softer plastic armor pieces
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>>10247280
That would have been fucking awful
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pretenders were the dumbest fucking gimmick to come out of the "throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks" era of toys I have no idea why anyone has nostalgia for that garbage
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>>10247341
Because the the shells are visually striking among old Transformers toys. Execution as a toy might have been lacking, but not the look.
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>>10247341
There's something pleasing about the "stuff toy in other toy" concept.
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>>10247319
Pretty sure that's why they dropped it
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>>10247341
Partly because they were major players in the marvel comics and the Japanese shows
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>>10247341
I had Pretender Bumblebee as a kid, thought it was some Transformers/MOTU crossover
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>>10247390
Matryoshka kind of thing?
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>>10246971
>>10247079
Yea basically
IO feel nothing and it wasn't worth the wait
I barely touched my Haslab Sentinel too and now HLJ fucked a friend over so I'm not even getting my Yamaguchi X-Men
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>>10247188
I know I'm in minority here, but POTP did them right, they just needed more articulation, keep them as targetmaster and armors for eithe headmaster or powermasters, just add hip, knee and elbow swivels.
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>>10247651
yeah POTP pretenders were the ideal modernisation of the original toys and they scale nicely with prime wars/pre-WFCT frens
as for a modernisation of the concept, a biomechanical hybrid monster, legacy's core figgers are really very good. skullgrin not so much and fingers crossed for bludgeon but honestly i might just stick to the cores
having them spread across different scales is kinda weird
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Could you guys help me identify this Cheetor toy? I had it as a kid and this is the only photo I found of it... Please?
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>>10247818
That definitely looks like the original Cheetor. They just did a rerelease of him recently so you may be able to find one on the cheap
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>>10245623
Blackarachnia has coloured mockups, its dropping first I believe
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>>10245926
who is that sensual predacon in the middle? I thought I knew all the Beastwars toys
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>>10246632
>>10246420
I like mine
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>>10247818
https://order.mandarake.co.jp/order/detailPage/item?itemCode=1099742240&ref=list&keyword=Beast%20wars%20cheetor&lang=en
in stock, 1 left
There has been a re-release but ive been finding sealed OGs for not much more.

https://order.mandarake.co.jp/order/detailPage/item?itemCode=1115094395&ref=list&keyword=Beast%20wars%20cheetor&lang=en
Masterpiece is also quite good
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>>10247950
bury fucken naisu anon
but why no buzzsaw?
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>>10247818
>>10247933
>>10247956
Thats no transformer, thats a minifigure of Disneys Tarzan Cheetah.
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>>10247974
good fucking eye
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>>10247972
Have one in box, still need to cop loose. I need Injector and a few other bugs to complete the collection

>>10247974
I kneel
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>>10247974
absolutely legendary toy autism
a sneel
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>>10247995
>toy autism
Akshually, visual design autism, I loved the sleek design of that cat on the movie, this is the first time I'm seeing that toy.
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>>10247974
Nicely done, dude.
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>>10247974
>I'd recognize that cheetah anywhere
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>>10246391

I still hate the massive empty shell of a cockpit. Love the Robot mode though. Genuinely one of the best in years. I really feel like this was something Hasbro basically went "Let's see what happens if we put ALL the money into the Bot mode and just sorta half-ass the Alt-Mode" and honestly, I kinda don't mind?
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>>10246607

Every day I pray for a Triple Changer Retro Collection that gives me the chance to buy that Sandstorm for less than triple figures in my country.
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>>10246894

I mean, Spider-Clone saga was a fucking debacle from beginning to end. One of the writers in Marvel at the time wrote a massive 30+ part behind the scenes thing and put it out online about what was going on in the writers and editors room at the time.
It sounds similar though to when Annihilation basically brought Cosmic Marvel back, because it ran at the same time as Civil War, which was excruciating character assassination and garbage by comparison.
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>>10246245
Is this the one we get the Devcon mold in?
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>>10249689
It's so sad that it never got used for anything else.

Springer's mold got, what, 6 paint jobs across US and JP, and Sandstorm only got one.

Criminally underused mold.
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>>10246872
>and Motormaster is the best part of it.
That's axiomatically going to be true when he makes up the entirety of the combined mode by himself, why even bother writing that
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New thread, with apologies for lateness:
>>10251276
>>10251276
>>10251276
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>>10249972

I mean, it was already a retool. I'm pretty sure that Hot Rodimus was another one as well.
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>>10251278
Hey, you actually made it at the correct time, on page 9, this time.
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>>10251691
Would have made it earlier but was on holiday somewhere with very poor wifi.
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>>10243664
>The original pisses on this thing so hard
Nah, I'd say it's a lateral move at best:
The original has far better details (especially the vastly less horrifying lion face) and fun gimmicks, but the robot proportions are jank and the lion is deformed as fuck.
The new one has a retarded-looking lion face and the mane 'gimmick' wasn't even worth including, but the transformation is cool and both the lion and robot proportions are vastly superior.
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>>10251692
No need for excuses for doing the right thing.
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>>10251757
Nah, next time I will be sure to make the next thread on the dot at bump limit. Or at least earlier than this.



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