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>"If you're new, you're gonna fuck up. Don't worry! If you're experienced, don't make the new people worry!"

***READ THE GUIDE***

Discord
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The guide:
Part 1 (Quick Start)
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And a handy guide to other types of plamo: http://www.mediafire.com/view/1vf1aw7v91pz5pa/Airfix%20Model%20World%20Specia%20(Scale%20Modelling%20Step-By-Step).pdf
http://www.scalemodelguide.com

Some line art:
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Previous thread: >>10138842
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So with our 19th Groupbuild coming to a close, we now approach the 20th. Since it's a bit of a milestone and I've been running these for a little over 6 years now, I felt that we should do something a little special this time around. Instead of the typical structure of taking ideas from the posters ITT and polling them to decide what theme to do for the next few months, we're going to have something I'm gonna call the "Groupbuild Groupbuild". The rules are as follows:
>Have a build that you never got to finish for a previous groupbuild? Only started building recently and sad you missed out on a theme from 4-5 years ago? Now's an opportunity to get that build done!
>Your build must conform to at least one of the previous 19 Groupbuild themes and the rules of that groupbuild, though you can mix together elements of other past groupbuilds (ie: a Melee Zaku or a mecha musume sniper)
>You must detail what theme(s) your build is going for when you submit your build.
>You can't submit a touched-up version of a previous groupbuild entry, but you can build something that fits alongside your past build (ie: a 2nd squad member for an entry to the GM groupbuild or a mid-season upgrade/powered up version of the same suit) so long as you showcase both the old and new builds in a few photos.
For information on the rules of past Groupbuilds, please refer to this pastebin: https://pastebin.com/xXqM1Tg0 (embed)

All other standard Groupbuild rules apply (Must be a model kit, must have some WIP photos included in the email along with a short bio describing it).

START - 11/6/22
END - 2/28/22
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>Seven Hours
>Not a single post
Why does this thread exist?
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>>10156884
Majority of the thread are Americans and we're busing eating turkey and getting drunk with the family today.
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thoughts on the gunprimer raser and balancers?
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>>10157023
Go to your dollar store, grab a glass file and a knock off magic eraser.
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What a deal, thank you HLJ
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>>10157023
I have a raser, it works pretty well.
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>>10157034
how much is that in real money
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gunpla is reclining...
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>>10157197
5000 yen reduced to 4950 yen
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>>10157034
>hlj
>australia
mate what are you doing
buy from the lads at frontline, gundamexpress or metrohobbies
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>>10157263
I usually do but koto kits are cheaper from HLJ and they actually have them in stock
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>>10157265
shipping lad...
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>>10157266
last order I did with HLJ was $330 total ($67 shipping) for 3 megami device kits which is the same price or a little cheaper than if I could actually find the 3 kits in Australia (110-130 each)
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>>10157023
snake oil for retarded snapshitters
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well... Real Grade
is the hype real or meme?
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>>10157699
They are what they are- models with far more detail, color separation, usually far more flexible then a HG, cool inner frame, and usually look good OOB after a simple topcoat and panel line application. I dunno if hype is a good term but yes- they are pretty damn cool. Basically a mini MG, sometimes even better. For example - the RG Zeong looks great after a topcoat/panel line and waterslide decal application. Buy waterslides, stickers are a blight to gunpla but especially so on RG's, its like taking a sports car and slapping bumper stickers on it. Looks like shit 100 % of the time
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>>10157699
Best grade unironically. MG's are for insecure size queens and blind old men who can't handle small parts.
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>>10157699
I like them the most of all grades, though they dont have a lot of different models
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>>10157699
they're a bit of a chore to paint but overall they're pretty great. i just wish there was more variety, it's almost exclusively a line of protagonist/antagonist suits
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>>10157741
MGs have equally small parts as real grades, and occasionally smaller parts.
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speaking of stickers, whats the best way for stickers to stick better?
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>>10158325
By getting water slides.
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are water slides universal? i want to get some for my [spoiler]SDs[/spoiler] haha
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>>10156483
hey that's my pikachu!
I'd love to get more pokemon models but many of my favorite ones never got kits bleh
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>>10158386
If its not an Ash pokemon or legendary, it didn't get and won't get a kit.
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>>10157023
i can't personally speak if the raser is any better than a typical glass file, but i will say that it is a) a very nice glass file, and b) a glass file is so much better than sandpaper, it never scuffs my plastic like sandpaper does. nowadays i only use the raser and only use sandpaper in hard-to-reach spots.
>the balancer
again, I can't speak if there's a cheaper alternative but they're like three bucks so you might as well get them. they're great to give the plastic a fake "matte finish" if you don't plan on topcoating it since they lightly scuff the plastic into reflecting less light. they also scrub away smudges left over from erasing panel lines, so it's really helpful. recommend both items (or any alternatives you can find).
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>>10157699
Old ones still look amazing but might need a little work
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>>10158345
Of course they'll work on the parts but you might have trouble finding aftermarket decals for a specific SD kit but you can always get more generic ones
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>>10158753
Ah man I wish my mail-man just dropped random kits off at my doorstep
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Chinese cars.
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>>10158903
At least they are easy enough to take apart if you want more color variety or paint some racing stripes or something.
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>>10158906
6 colors, 2 kinds, 50 cars in total for under $10 shipped.

Obviously this is not Tomytec quality but with a bit of detail painting they should look passable for a city diorama.
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>gunplaa, right on the floor
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Any places that still have plamo Cinderace, Gardevoir and Arceus?
Online cuz im in eu and i think most here are usa
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How the fuck is it still impossible to find the first 4 Witch from Mercury kits in the US? Is Bandai really this dumb when it comes to judging demand?
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>>10159109
I heard they were having production issues again.
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>>10159109
lfrith and aerial are out of stock literally everywhere on the planet as far as I can tell
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Jesus fuck I hate when carries hand off packages. UPS handed USPS my kit order on the 17th. It's still "pending acceptance" to USPS. UPS customer service said it ain't theirs anymore so they can't help. USPS says they haven't gotten it yet, so they cant help. Site won't help because it still shows "in transit" despite me paying for 3 days shipping on the 11th.
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Is there any reason to keep used runners? Can they be melted down and made into parts or recycled or reused in any way?
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>>10159323
no. you're always better off casting parts in resin than melting runners unless you have a plastic injection machine. it's worth saving some of the more irregular shapes (like the raised semicircles from slide moulded parts) because those are hard to scratchbuild, but just cut those out and throw the rest of the runner away.
you could use them for fashioning pegs or something out of when scratchbuilding, but almost everything you can use straight runner pieces for in scratchbuilding would be easier done just buying styrene rods or tubes
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>>10159323
>>10159384
oh actually i forgot 1 thing, you can melt down the correct colour of runner into styrene putty by using plastic cement if for some reason you want to fill seams and not paint it. personally i've never had good luck with this and the melted runner always ends up a bit discoloured, but i've seen a guy either in here or on /m/ do it with good results on a nuke matrix lirly bell's hair
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Are there any decent non-DIY spray booth options that won't break the bank? It seems to be all either dubious chinkshit or $600.
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>>10159464
the dubious 100 dollar chinese ones are fine. some people like to replace the fan with a more powerful one but you really don't need to
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>>10159464
>non-DIY
Spray booth is a filter. If you can't make one yourself, you are shit at plamo too, don't bother buying one. Simple as.
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What's the best way to make custom decals? i have tried inkjet waterslide sheets but even the white backed ones arent really amazing.
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>>10159502
probably better off asking in >>>/toy/smg since this thread is 98% snapshitters
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>>10159531
But not you right? You scratchbuild all your models and are in fact a mobile suit designer
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>>10159533
Duh, I'm the son of Hajime Katoki, fucking snapshitting McDonald's toymaking cocksmoking faggot
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>>10159548
then I KNEEL
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>>10159533
where did i say that? i'm basically still a basecoatshitter, i've only shaded 1 kit so far and have only just started thinking about kit modifications
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>>10159502
There is no best way because at home solutions are all middling garbage. Just spring for factory made ones, or use the stickers that come with a kit, it looks the same anyway honestly.
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>>10158967
https://www.hlj.com/pokemon-plastic-model-collection-50-select-series-cinderace-bans62177
??
I think they're all in stock too and on sale
Peek Gundam Planet?
Galactic Toys?
Newtype?
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>>10158903
>>10158906
what scale(if it even is in one)?
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>>10160412
1/150, but they also have 1/100 and 1/200.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001021739193.html
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>>10156483
I need a bit of help customizing a kit.
Other than buying an airbrush and painting, I realized I need to make some cuts and modify. In order to attach these to the wings of a backpack and ends of the wings I need to cut out and build hardpoints, as well as modify the eye pice for a monoeye. What tools do I require other than a hobby knife? The kit is pic related.
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>>10159323
I keep the skin colored ones to potentially melt down and seam weld girlpla but for gundams and other kit's I'd just use putty and paint it anyway
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You WILL paint the gundams
or else...
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if i buy the entry grade nu gundam, where do i get the funnels?
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>>10160802
That's the problem: you don't.
You either cannibalize the funnels from the HG, effectively buying two kits if you haven't already made the HG years ago, or you eagerly wait a Full Weapon set release of the EG.
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>use Mr Mark setter and mark softer

I wipe the setter once the decal is in position
But leaving the softer on the decal just leaves nasty cloudy mark over the plastic
I saw the japaneses wipe the softer stuff few seconds after applying and it turns out fine but thought you are supposed to leave it alone on the decal and not touch it??
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>>10160802
You don't. You buy the RG and get a good kit after you fucked around building a McDonald's toy that is an EG.
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is there a place that compares all the grades of a specific mobile suit type?
theres a million exias, freedoms and rx's
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>>10160867
Yes, it's called youtube and looking up reviews.

Really though there is a pattern to these sorts of things. Usually the newest version of any suit, as long as it's HG or better, ends up being the best version. The older a kit is, the bigger chance it's not as good as more modern releases. This is why you get shit like the HG Gouf Custom being better designed and more accurate than the MG, because the MG is fucking ancient. Or the RG Sazabi and Nu being the best of all offerings.
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>>10160878
sazabi ver ka is better than the rg despite being older
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>>10160878
>>10160881
this is what im talking about
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>>10160881
Incorrect.

>>10160891
Sometimes people have retarded opinions, anon, like >>10160881 You're on 4chan, of course you'll get the occasional slackwit drooling mongo sharting his retard opinion out for everyone to laugh at.
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>>10160896
>you'll get the occasional slackwit drooling mongo sharting his retard opinion out for everyone to laugh at.
like people that say the rg sazabi is better than the ver ka
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>>10160926
Quiet retard, your bad opinions are showing.
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>>10160931
this is probably the most wrong i've ever seen someone be in this thread
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>>10160867
Basically don't bother with pre-Unicorn RGs unless you just want to pose it once and have it look pretty. HGs can look just as good if you put the work in.
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OK is there a place that posts all the kits in release order or does dalong already do that?
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nvm i see it, dalong does it
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Are Entry Grades really that shitty? Since its Black Friday weekend, theyre dirt cheap right now and I was thinking about picking up the nu and rx full weapon pack just for spare parts or whatever.
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>>10160837
>a year later he still thinks there will a full weapons set EG Nu
lmao
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>>10161399
it has NOT been a year don't fucking scare me
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>>10161079
Yes, they are. Stick to HG and up unless you have some kind of disability or are buying it for a child.
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>>10160946
Funny, thats what everyone else says about the idiot who keeps trying to compare the Katoki trash to the best designed Sazabi yet.
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>>10161079
No, they're pretty good. Main issue is lack of accessories.
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Will there be a RG Nobell Gundam?
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>>10161670
In 15 years maybe, only UC, SEED and Wing get more than 1 RG
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RG aoz kit when
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>>10161677
>tfw got lucky with our lord and savior, God Gundam
Pain...
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>>10160754
Eradicate all broccoli heads.
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>>10159109
>>10159121
no dude they're just literally sold out everywhere. People are scalping the shit out of it in Japan.
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>>10161731
why, is the anime that popular? i kinda wanted the sd but it was a sticker hell
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>>10161770
>is anime lesbians with robots popular
Is this your first time hearing of Japan, anime, or human males before?
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>>10161770
anon I...
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>>10161796
>>10161797
just tell me so i know if i should preorder
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...they've forgotten that they've never given us an acutal, non-prelude version of this, haven't they? They've forgotten FT, huh?
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>>10161804
Preorder these fucking nuts nigga
Your mum was the first in line of course
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Can't wait for my wife, Windblade, to be accompanied by my second wife, Arcee.
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>>10161817
so small haha
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>>10161840
Have you played a single fucking second of Xrd you secondary faggot
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>>10161852
???
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>>10161812
Is it any different to the WZC aside from the wings?
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>>10161852
does it count as being a secondary if no one gives a shit about the source material at all
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>>10156884
Everyone knows the /m/ general is the official
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>>10161903
>get a warning for "the quality of posts is very important to our community"
>somehow the guy that never posts his own work and goes on and on and fucking on about "snapshitters" is still allowed up
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Whelp, finally happened, my 11th kit and I broke a peice. Trying to pop the front half of the chest peice off of the MG Master Gundam and it broke at his collar bone area.
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anyone got experience using tsnoda or engineer nippers? both made in japan and the engineer brand looks suspiciously like the bandai spirits one, maybe theyre the manufacturer
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>>10159609
>or use the stickers that come with a kit, it looks the same anyway honestly
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>>10161911
skill issue
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>>10162055
Whatever you say. I guess your eyes are like a microscope, helps you see your tiny limp cick and the stickers on the Gundam you're looking at from 5ft away on a shelf.
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>>10161911
/m/ mods are almost as lazy and shitty as /toy/ mods.
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>>10161852
Nobody wants to play games from the tranny franchise anymore brotha...
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>>10162105
Strive isn't Guilty Gear, so no worries
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I want the MG Gelgoog so bad. My only MG is a Luminara Hawke custom. I regret getting it.
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>>10161852
XRD sucks anyways. +R is where it's at
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>>10162157
>i like the Luminara Hawke
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>>10161079
grandad is fine if you get the weapon set version
the others aren't because they don't come with their iconic shit so might as well buy their alternatives since they clearly aren't going to release full sets of them otherwise they would've done it by now with how fast the grandad got it's weapon set
>>10162157
I wanted one within last year and BigBadShitStore surprisingly fulfilled the order. Finished building it last month
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>>10161911
your boogieman does not exist

>>10162100
wrong, /m/ mods actually do their job and delete shitposts. /toy/ is almost entirely unmoderated
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>>10162206
Hello r*ddit!
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>>10161911
/M/ has good mods they're not going to ban someone for saying your kit sucks lol. And even if that was true there's a new gunpla thread over there every 2 days compared to these slow ass generals
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>>10162288
>/toy/ is almost entirely unmoderated
He only deletes anti-MAGA content
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>>10162420
good, politics of all spectrums do not belong in a plastic model toy thread, unless you're discussing the geopolitics impacting global supply chains such as shipping, lockdowns, import restrictions and oil prices.
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>>10162157
Still love mine. One of these days I'll do custom colors on one.
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>>10156483
Does HLJ piss their pants at you for cancelling pre-orders like AmiAmi does?
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>finally find a place that has the HG Deathscythe
I just wish the other Wing suits besides the Wing itself had RGs. I definitely prefer the 1/144 scale. Smaller detailed stuff always looks more impressive.
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>>10162105
>beep boop 4chan calls thing tranny therefore I must hate BEEP BOOP I MUST HATE MUST CONFORM
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>>10162788
I mean quite literally they made brisket transgender and testament non binary instead of sexless.
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>>10162808
Nothing wrong with that. Touch grass.
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Is Lfrith ever gonna be back in stock?
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>>10162786
no
you have to constantly preorder and cancel stuff for them to care at all. and that's only for preorders with limited slots, you can cancel as many backorders as you want and they won't care
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>>10162814
not when it's goldlewis canonically grooming brisket who originally only crossdressed to not be put to death in their village.
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>>10162849
Take your meds.
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>>10162844
Thanks.
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>>10162854
t. lorelet secondary
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>>10162849
By your logic your parents must have groomed you into an incel by allowing you to be who you want to be.
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>>10162868
nice projection there, buddy
imagine supporting femboy erasure
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>>10162867
You didn't know shit about GG lore until the discussion of a trans character entered your internet rage bubble.
Where in the lore does Gunpla get involved by the way?
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>>10162788
Dilate
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>>10162870
>femboy erasure
If that's what bothers you then acquire skill and create your own femboys. It's liberating finally crossing the threshold of being able to draw art that turns yourself on.
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>>10162876
>beep boop generating pre-programmed response beep boop DILATE
Post Gunpla.
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>>10163199
uhhh I have the R3 L-Gaim mkii and MG ingram out for delivery.

Is this hype enough am I doing it right?
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>>10163242
thats not very hype
and my bois just arrived, hexa gear have way bigger boxes than i expected
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>>10162872
I've played since overture.
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>Local stores haven't restocked any new sets in months
>Models I want are forever on preorder or sold out
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>>10163199
I got the delivery with like 7 PokePla for my wife's Christmas present.
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>>10163296
>wife
that's gay
your wife sucks cocks
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Mg stark jegan is the unicorn version, with no msv conversion parts

Can i atleast convert it to the d type?
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>>10163267
Local stores usually suck anon. You may want to support local, but the reality is, being able to order from anywhere gets you what you want.
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Dang, I knew the Psycho gundam was big but didn't realize it was THIS big.
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>>10160847
Suppose to brush the setter on the spot the decal goes then place the decal and roll the excess out. After it dries you hit the decal with a little softer to help blend it in, not that badly needed unless theres the clear film like bandai decals have or the part is curved. You may want to gloss coat first to avoid plastic discoloration but Ive not had that problem with the softer.
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>>10162818
Its never coming back
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>>10162818
My HLJ backorder got filled yesterday shockingly enough.
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>>10163341
looking at the sprue gates on dalong; highly doubtful. the shield will most likely not be included at all.
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>ton of kits coming in the mail/for Christmas
I'm going to be building stuff for a while. How should I space all of this out?

>RG Wing TV
>HG Deathscythe
>HG Heavyarms
>HG The O
>RG Eva Unit 1
>RG Nu
>RG Sazabi
>HG Rebake Fullcity
>MG Barbatos
>HG Origin Zaku II
>HG Gouf Custom
>HG RX79
Plus a few tools, including a memehand.
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>>10163672
>needing other people to make basic decisions for you
congenital feeblemindedness
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>>10163677
he just wants to discuss gunpla

>im withholding my ridiculous pickup list of things these last 2 months
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has anyone received gunpla cards from their purchases?
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>>10157741
i wish they re-release the pre-sazabi RG's as a 2.0 with current inner frame tooling. the advanced MS joint of the first kits are horrible and are a painters nightmare because of the plastic used and the fact that you can't disassemble it.
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>>10157741
You sound insecure. Maybe if RG had more kits worth buying than I can count on two hands it would be better than the biggest, longest-running, highest-quality, all-encompassing line.
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>>10157023
Genuinely higher-quality than any other glass file and everyone telling you otherwise are shitposters who should be ignored.
You don't need a raser to get good results. Nobody does. But pretending they're not objectively superior to dollar store glass files is poorfag cope at best.
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>>10163705
>highest quality
>MG
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>>10163682
local stores or official Bandai ones?

i got these calendar cards from my local hobby store when i bought the HWS for Hi-Nu and Gundam MK.V
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>>10163714
they kinda went lazy with the recent MG releases. the Zaku Warrior frame looks like a glorified RG frame.
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>>10163718
MG's have been just as spotty, if not more, than pretty much every other Grade. You could say HG's are iffy, but they're meant to be cheap. MG's are their 'expensive' line and it feels like a solid 70% of them are just flat out poorly designed ass. RG's got their shit together now at least after a shaky start and some dumbass ideas ("hurr use this tiny MK2 frame for the fucking Sinanju"), but even modern MG's have weird shit going on in them all the time.
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>>10163718
nah, its more of a RE 1/100 line or Full Mechanics line

>>10163720
Bandai is on this weird phase that if they want their MG to be expensive or cheap ass shit/slight upgrade from RE1/100/Full Mechanics

I say, I am willing to pay for 8,000 yen every MG as long they get MGEX Freedom level of detail. MGEX Freedom is only expensive because of the 5 levels of metallic coating. If you cut that out, they can reduce the costs.

I mean, if you think about it, MG started because Bandai wanted to portray MS with a huge level of detail unseen before in model kits and somehow devolved
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>>10163720
>MG's are their 'expensive' line
It's not
>feels like a solid 70% of them are just flat out poorly designed ass
This is just wrong
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>>10163730
>It's not
It is. You're forgetting the standard kits, aka HG, are something like 11-20 on average. An MG is around 3-5x that cost, anon. That is the expensive line.

PG and up are the ultra hard collector line. Or the more money than sense retard line. Depending on how you consider the...'People', that buy such things.
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>>10163714
The quality of MG is more vast and consistent than any other line, especially when it comes to old kits. An old MG will almost always hold up better than an old HG and especially old RGs.
Although part of this is also because Bandai simply releases far more MGs than RGs, so of course it'll have more winners than the latter.
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>>10163732
>elipses
>reddit spacing
>mad at people for having the money to buy PGs
Time to go back.
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>>10163736
>An old MG will almost always hold up better than an old HG and especially old RGs
And lose out to a new HG, or new anything else really.
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>>10163732
Just because it's "more expensive" doesn't mean it's "the expensive" line. PG is the expensive line.
>Or the more money than sense retard line.
Where the fuck do you think you are, do you even know how much good quality figurines and action figures cost?
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>>10163593
Damn, I had accidentally cancelled my backorder when cancelling other kits, and had to re-do a backorder, putting me at the back of the line. At least the kits are starting to hit US stores, so if anyone has a Hobbytown or something better near you, I'd check that regularly.
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>>10157263
anything outside bandai is ludicrous in price in Australia
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Are there any differences in quality between these two brands?
I'm looking for spare for my Eclipse HP-CS
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>>10163732
third worlder or rural retard detected
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>>10163718
>>10163720
>>10163727
>>10163732
>>10163739
The problem with MG from Bandai's perspective is that the majority of people who buy MG kits in Japan are salarymen facing overwork issues and have less and less time and patient to build kits. That's why Bandai is making less MG in general and shift it's focus to FM which takes less time to build. Also, HG is budget line doesn't mean they are not as good as other line, take some recent non-Gundam HG and you can tell that Bandai is totally capable of making HG alot better but it just chose not to due its business module.
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>>10163802
You're straight up talking out your ass, there are less 1/100 no grade kits (FM, RE100, etc) than there was 5-10 years ago
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>>10163817
>there are less 1/100 no grade kits (FM, RE100, etc) than there was 5-10 years ago
That's also true for MG though, so I don't see how that invalidate my entire point
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>>10163802
>shift it's focus to FM which takes less time to build.
That's complete bullshit. Bandai's not making non-grades because non-grades are easier to make for the consumer, they're doing it because it's easier for THEM.
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>>10163751
>I'm looking for spare for my Eclipse HP-CS
Then you need I-617-2.
Both needles on your pic related are wrong choice, neither will fit.
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>>10163825
Consumer has less incentive to buy new kits if they lost their interest in or havn't finish builiding existing kit
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>>10163830
So? That doesn't change the fact that you pulled this argument straight out of your ass.
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>>10163831
I read that way too long ago from an issue of hobby japan, don't really care whether you believe or not
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The reason why some v.2.0 MGs are shit is because they are already tooled decades ago.

some of them have probably been tooled since 1.0 days and just updated partially to 2.0 standard (definitely the R3 line, MG Gundam MK.V, The O and any MG with 2.0 body with 1.0 pelvis)

Heck, there was already a prototype of PG Unleashed Gundam shown in early 2000s Gunpla Expo
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>>10163874
Are you implying the MkV is shit because I will fight you
Also why the fuck would they finish the mold and just sit on it for decades, sounds stupid
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>>10163874
>>10163888
Not necesseary mold but 3D plan of The O existed long before its release is fairly well-known, bandai thought large kit won't sell and never produce the kit until a lot of people demanded, so bandai just produce the already outdated kit and guess what, it did not sold well.
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>>10163888
Gundam MKV
>detailed upperbody frame
>shitty low detail lowerbody frame
it definitely has been planned most likely around the original EX-S release

anyway Bandai has already done it in the past. they have shown completed prototypes almost ready for production (1/60 Kyrios, Dynames, Virtue) then quietly canceled.

heck F90 is already done and was mothballed and changed to use the F91 v2 frame
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>>10163888
also, Bandai's retardation is not limited to Gunpla, it stretches to even to figures...

fuck Bandai for canceling Faye and Char Figuarts
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>>10163928
>model specific
Needles are matched to nozzles by size AND geometry, model of the airbrush itself is not that important.

So technically, if you swap Eclipse nozzle with a Neo nozzle, Neo needles would fit (but that would defeat the purpose of having an Eclipse in the first place).
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>>10163819
that's also true for HG as well
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>>10163931
Looking at the iwata site's replacement part tool i understand it better.
The Eclipse series has different models and only those of the same models are compatible.
Should I just order directly from them since I get results on Amazon like pic? Red one is the right model from Iwata site (e3) but has no reviews while the blue one says for use with CS in the title but not in the product description.
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>>10163917
>changed to use the F91 v2 frame
F90 and F91 2.0/1.0 have nothing in common. the frames are completely different.
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>>10163945
forgot pic
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>>10163945
>>10163947
The red looks correct, but make sure you have the ability to return for refund.

Personally I buy these things from online art stores, they know their stuff and the prices are as good or better than Amazon.
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>>10163946
yes they fucking do.

the prototyped MG F90 shown in the Gunpla Expo was made with a customized MG F91 1.0 frame, which is also used by MG Crossbone.

then MG F90 mothballed. and eventually released with using a modified MG F91 v2.0 frame.

Also, FUCK BANDAI for already having a MG F91 v2 frame and not releasing MG Crossbone v2 using a MG F91 v2 frame
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>>10163949
Thanks for the help.
I'd also prefer to go to physical store but they don't sell these in my country or at least you need to really search. I'm most likely having someone in the US buy for me and they don't know how to get these.
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>>10163951
>physical store
>online art stores
Who said anything about physical?

https://www.coastairbrush.com/
https://usaairbrushsupply.com/
https://www.midwestairbrush.com/
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>cemented the seamlines and sanded it
>primer
>the seams appeared again
the fuck
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>>10163961
That's literally why you needed to prime. All part of the process.
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>>10163961
did you get proper squeeze out of melted plastic before sanding? you need to let that offgas for a day at least. if you sand too soon, the solvent in the melted plastic
will continue to evaporate and then shrink, making the seam reappear.
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>>10163961
you sanded too fast, that friction heated it up again
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>>10163969
>you need to let that offgas for a day at least
Maybe if you use carpenter glue instead of plastic cement. Pic related can be sanded after 10 min.

Most likely cause of seam weld failure is insufficient amount cement, not melting the entire length of the seam.
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>>10163888
>Also why the fuck would they finish the mold and just sit on it
New to figure collecting in general? Shit happens all the time, and not just with Bandai.

>>10163739
Retard doesn't know how business works, very shocking. Protip: You can have "the regular" line, and the "expensive" line, and still have a "premium" line, and so on and so forth. There is no ceiling to greed. They'd make 1/1 Gundam's for people to fucking buy if they thought it would sell, it still wouldn't change that MG's are competing for peoples money with shit like video games, which are in a similar price range and are still a, you guessed it, luxury item.
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>>10163981
this shit is great, it dries in seconds as long as the area you're using it is moderately warm and the air is dry
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Is it fair to say gundam is just bionicle for weebs?
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I tried pentel pigment ink brush pen for panel lining, I like how it looks like lubrication oil.
I haven't used it before on gunpla, I hope I'm not messing up the plastic, although I'm almost certain its just standard ink watered down.
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1/100 Estailev kit looks glorious. Like Armored Core and Katoki had an orgy, and this came out 9 months later.
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>>10164160
>and this came out of Katoki's ass 9 months later
FTFY
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>>10164157
This is why I prefer hand panel lining with gundam markers or whatever your chosen brand is. It has a slightly grimier, more realistic look to it. Panel lining is supposed to represent where shadow and dust, dirt, oils, etc, collect on a mobile suit, it's not supposed to look clean.
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>>10164219
>realistic look
>he thinks that several inch-wide gaps between armor panels on a giant robot are realistic in any way
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>>10164219
I used to just do it with micron pens, but you're right.
There are spots where a pen can look good, but flowing ink looks more natural and gives off an industrial look.
I'd probably just use that from now on.
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Messed up the top of the A
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>>10164134
I’d say bionicle is gundams for millenials
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>>10164219
>Wastes money on gundam panel markers and/or Tamiya Panel Liners known to break Bandai plastic
>He doesn't just create his own panel lining ink with the perfect colour and isopropyl ratios to ensure minimal surface tension
>Not using calligraphy pen to take said ink and create a clean panel look
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>>10164625
>isopropyl
>in panel liner
retard moment
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>>10164625
Are you the guy who thinks you can panel line wash with acrylic, and then always posts the hideous, grimy lining by any chance?
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>>10164625
>perfect colour and isopropyl ratios
Based snapshitter
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>>10164219
Same, they are war machines god damn it and dust, oil and grimes build up on them
>>10164636
>m-muh snapshitters!
PYW
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>>10164629
>Says isopropyl is retarded
>Thinks enamel thinner is better on model kit plastics

You must've sniffed too many paint retarder to be this retarded. Keep sniffing enamel thinner to thin out more of your defective sperm.
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>>10164647
If you don't realise what is wrong with what he said then not only are you a snapshitter you are also just plain stupid
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>>10164649
So when are you gonnapost gunpla instead of shitting up this thread constantly?
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>>10164635
No. I don't think the guy you mentioned uses Tamiya Arcylics + Isopropyl Alcohol or Acrysion with distilled water.

Your guy probably uses cheap crap paints like Folkart or Citadel.
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>>10164648
you are both snapshitters
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>>10164667
And you will never be successful at life judging how you get mad at people on the internet constantly because they don't want to waste their time and just want to enjoy gunpla normally.
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>>10164667
And proud of it.
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>>10164667
>"O-oh shit i-it turns out people make their own panel liner ink...I'll just call him a snapshitter that'll show him!!!"
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>>10164676
It is truly hilarious how you people don't realise what is wrong with using alcohol as thinner for panel lining
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>>10164689
It's even more hilarious that you think enamel thinner is fine when isopropyl isn't dangerous to model kit plastic.

I hope you're not retarded and thinking that I thin Tamiya Panel Liner with alcohol.
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>>10164697
>you think enamel thinner is fine when isopropyl isn't dangerous to model kit plastic.
You still don't fucking get it lmao
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>>10164701
Then talk you dickhead. It's literally common knowledge that 90+% iso does not damage any plastics, nor is it as bad of a thinner as you act for Tamiya paints.

Go re-take chem, maybe the snapshitter was you all along.
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>>10164697
enamel thinner isn’t the issue specifically. its just that enamel takes a long time to fully cure and gas off and that leftover solvent leeches deep into the plastic, eats through varnish, etc. any solvent left on the plastic is going to be bad for it, it’s a matter of exposure time. that’s why nazca pro use and mr rapid thinner exist for lacquers (for lacquers, before any retard thinks I’m using it to thin enamel) but enamel and oil are just slow no matter what to full dry so you’re better off mixing your own liner fluid so whatever shitty thinner tamiya uses isn’t eating your kit
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>>10164625
>3 dollars for a pen that lasts for like 40 kits
>waste of money
Too much paint fumes bro. You need to vent better.
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>>10164714
It doesn't fucking matter what it does to the plastic you moron, what matters is that ipa interacts with every type of hobby paint. Enamel thinner only interacts with enamel paint, making it completely safe to use on top of various types of acrylic paint.
If you weren't a snapshitter, you would know that.
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Isn't isopropyl %100 alcohol? That'll get you fuckin MUNTED cunt
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>>10164721
I was under the assumption that you panel lined without painting, which some people actually do. Mixing your own liner fluid with tamiya acrylics to use on bare plastic would've been absolutely safe to do.

Obviously if you painted the kit, you should never use iso as a panel line thinner under any circumstance.
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>>10164721
no it’s because it gives you working time to clean up and the very long time it takes to cure levels out how the line looks visually and doesn’t have that crude and uneven look that acrylic washes tend to. similar reasons why enamel is used to base very high gloss finishes. this threads at sub-reddit IQ.
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>>10164731
That too, but you wouldn't use enamel thinner if it ate through all of your paint
>enamel is used to base very high gloss finishes
But the alclad gloss base and chrome are both lacquer, only their candy colors are enamel
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>>10164737
alclad black base 305 is enamel
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So for Christmas I'm planning on gettting the Moderoid Granzort trio to assemble and pose with, but then they also have their Super counterparts available.
Convince me why should I get both sets, or just get either one.
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>MUH OVERPRICED MARKERS
>MUH ISOPROPYL ALCOHOL
>MUH ENAMEL THINNER
>not simply using cheap oil paint from a dollar store thinned with odorless turpenoid that doesn't smell, doesn't damage plastic and takes as long to dry as enamel thinner if not longer
Room temperature IQ all around.
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>>10160837
Fake Nu Weapons from ReRise are an option.
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>>10164598
Bionicles are bionicals for millenials

Bionicals are older than zoomers
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>>10164821
I'd rather not have to wait a week for my panel liner
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>>10164838
Relax, it's fine the next morning.
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>>10164821
Can you just use turpentine?
I dont know where to get turpenoid where i am
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>>10164859
You can, but shit stinks and presumably not as safe for plastic.
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>>10164859
>where to get turpenoid
art stores
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>>10164731
ignoring that however, 2-propanol/isopropanol is able to damage all common modeling paint types bar urethane(?), so even if you're using lacquer it's not a good idea to have it come in contact with isopropanol.
pic related, look to the left of the canopy, literally made mr color flow like a pin wash.
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>>10164914
>that Tamiya surface detail
I think I need to build another one of their 1/72 fighters soon.
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>>10164648
>>10164663
I use odorless thinner and oils.
alcohol has "legs" (Gibbs-Marangoni effect) which will wind up drawing the pigment out of the panel line and completely undermine the whole point of doing a thinned panel wash using capillary action. acrylic and water unironically would be better than acrylic and alcohol, and even that is shit.
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>>10164965
Normally, this would be true but the thing is Tamiya's acrylics includes both water and alcohols as part of their solvent base in addition to the acrylic-resin pigment. I even tested to see how badly the iso would ruin the mix I had, but the colors have been consistent and with no concern of it being pulled out of the line. I've had far worse results with water whether its the pigment reacting poorly to tap+distilled, or just cloudy and shitty linework.

As far as capillarity is concerned, I would say that my mix is definitely nowhere near Tamiya's own branded liners (which makes sense since it's enamel + enamel thinner), but not trash since I've been able to get solid linework with minimal dabs.
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>>10164867
>>10164874
i checked officeworks and apparently they have Artists Odourless Solvent which is just turpenoid without the brand name turpenoid
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>>10164980
pic related, Tamiya X-20A thinner
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>>10165111
I wonder if mr hobby aqueous thinner is the same shit or if it's something different
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>>10164625
>why use the cheap gundam markers on kits for quick easy lines when you can create a nauseating chemical compound out of alcohol which is known to be GREAT for plastic, in a process that ultimately saves little if any time
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>>10165146
>why use the cheap gundam markers
Well you shouldn't when vastly better alternatives exist.
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>>10165125
It's probably very similar but I couldn't find an MSDS from a quick google search. These documents are meant to be available for any chemicals you can buy but they'll do their best to make them as inaccessible as possible since it gives away their secrets
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>>10165151
You cant and wont stop me
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Tamiya panel liners are fine for what they are

Even on bare plastic you just have to make sure the fume don't get trap in a enclosed location
For painted stuff make sure you have a proper lacquer gloss clear coat. For some reason the thinner can eat through normal lacquer paint easily but not the gloss coat. Even Tamiya knowledge this with their instruction

The only time the liners break anything for me was when they leaked into part connection and the gas can't get out. They work fine even on abs plastic
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>>10165257
>For some reason the thinner can eat through normal lacquer paint
What lacquer paint are you using, and what thinner specifically?
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>>10165257
>For some reason the thinner can eat through normal lacquer paint easily
enamel thinner?
I think you're doing something wrong then.
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>>10165257
>For some reason the thinner can eat through normal lacquer paint easily
The only possible situation where that statement can be true is when "enamel thinner" == "Testors Universal thinner" which is a mix of white spirit and alcohol.
In all other cases enamel thinner will not affect lacquer coat.
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>>10165259
Tamiya' own TS cans and x20 enamel thinner

Got lazy one time and put liner on ungloss paint. Just few back and forth trying to remove the excessive liner with x20 with swabs the paint started to come undone

Never have this with a properly protected pieces
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>>10165322
>Just few back and forth trying to remove the excessive liner
You sprayed a dry coat with poor adhesion and then scratched it off with a qtip?
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>>10165322
most likely an issue with your qtips or as previously said, it got scratched off somehow because that shouldn't happen as enamel does not affect lacquer.
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>>10164821
Be sure to take a swing to clean out all those nasty worms and parasitices outta your body!
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>>10164820
Both, complete the crew, as long as you actually build them that is
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Anyone else have MGs with hip joint issues? My Heavyarms and Sandrock, the leg peg into the hip is a super tight fit, but simultaneously just falls off randomly.
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>>10162496
where the fuck did you get it? i can’t find it anywhere online at or around its original price
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>>10165599
I've had that one for years now, 2018 maybe?
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>>10165395
TS cans aren’t 100% lacquer like the LS jars or even Mr. Color cans. It’s an acrylic and lacquer blend, which explains why the enamel thinner are through it.
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>>10165675
acrylic lacquer is still lacquer. the vast majority of hobby lacquer paints are acrylic resin based. did you really think you were spraying nitrocellulose lacquer? lmfao
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>>10165709
true for most, but alclad's metallics are cellulose lacquers
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>>10165471
Yea actually. Broke the hip connection on the MG Barbatos. Only real big break ive had outta dozens of kits
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>>10165275
So Whats that gonna be used for anon that always seems to be woring on something?
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>>10166500
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>>10165275
>masking and airbrushing a small detail when you're gonna wipe off the excess anyway
Why not just... use a brush?
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>>10166702
>Why not just... use a brush?
handpainting isn't as nice as airbrushing and the application of a consistent enamel layer takes longer to apply.
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>>10166702
>Why not just... use a brush?
Much better question: why not just mask up to the edges using surface tension?
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I hope Bandai does more Macross kits after the YF-19, you'd think the YF-21 would be a no-brainer and afterwards they could milk VF-1s, but they still haven't announced or teased a Bellvine or Zwauth to go with their HG Sirbine and it's been more than a year since that released lol
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>>10167077
>That weak shit for lightweights

Come back when you upgrade to the strong stuff.
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>>10167077
It just smells like acetone man, lacquer paint smells tastier
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for me you might ask?
there is only one answer.
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>>10167108
>mildly retarded
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any chance does anyone know the person who might've autographed this? It was on a Aoshima GaoGaiGar model kit
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>>10167108
I use it when handpainting Mr Hobby Aqueous thinned with 91% IPA. Works well when It's thinned properly, gives good results when using a brush
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>>10166570
Hmm, what exactly is it?
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>>10167392
Boat girls.
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>>10167392
Shimakaze's Rensouhou-chan companions
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>>10167394
Ayeee gotcha, look foward to the final build
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>>10167428
He posted it long time ago.
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Finally got a picture of Lindwurm I liked. No idea why but all the other pictures I took just didn't come out as well. More here: https://imgur.com/a/AV8ixcy
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>>10167372
Yonetani Yoshitomo, the director of the show.
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Does tamiya extra thin cement work on rubber?
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>>10168036
no
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paging that one anon in this thread that's actually a good builder:
do you have any tips on modifying limbs like this for seam welding and painting?
obviously you can just weld the joint into the limb and mask it, but that's kind of a pain in the ass especially compared to older kits that just had polycaps in each part of the limb and then a joint with pegs that just slid in and out easily.
i can't think of anything but i've seen you come up with similar types of mods for your kits that i never would have thought of
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I heard there are people who buy pre built, but unpainted kits so they can customize them. Why not just buy an unbuilt kit?
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>>10167432
Then nevermind
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>>10168127
usually cheaper to buy a second hand assembled kit
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>>10157741
RGs are overhyped to hell and back. The Nu, Hi Nu, Sazabi, and Zeong are decent but literally over half of the RG line are over ambitious messes with some pants on head retarded design choices and are prone to snapping to breakage. MGs are way more consistent in quality. Hell even HGs are more reliable then a majority of those old ass RGs.

>>10160754
I fucking hate this waifu shit taking over gundam and bringing in a bunch of new fags, just make another show with an autistic jap running military operations in some random ass UC timeline pre Double Zeta and milk the one year war and zeon and all that shit some more. Would be a million times more watchable.
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>>10168049
I have no idea what you're showing me, you need to provide some better pictures. Like a page from instruction, perhaps?

Also, reengineering a joint is not always the best course of action, "weld the joint into the limb and mask it" is a perfectly valid option.
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>>10168293
aw yeah now we're shitposting
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>>10168294
But zakuareolas said you have to modify every joint to paint any kit.
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>>10168511
>zakuareolas
literally who?
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>>10168049
like >>10168294 mentioned, modification of a joint for seam welds is rarely worth it unless there's a clear solution.
don't know how the construction in your model is but from what I can tell, you'll just have to do it.
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Anyone have any idea when the 30ms Ruruneru will be out? I'm waiting to see if HLJ managed to get one for me before shipping out my stuff
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people who can paint and customise their gunplas to the point of realistic perfection are the luckiest buttholes in this hobby.

im mentally preparing myself and want to ask, what kit do i need to start doing it well?
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>>10168638
If you got one of the first batch you'd already have it
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>>10168621
i guess i'll just mask it. ugh

>>10168511
i don't watch your gay youtuber friend, i simply hate masking
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>>10168652
Lots of kits. You think you just get good instantly or after only one or two kits? You're going to be practicing and experimenting for years before you get to that level.
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>>10168652
>what kit do i need to start doing it well
An old kit, a kit by an obscure company, a "bad" kit.

Nothing levels you up more than trying to make a "bad" kit look good.
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I never watched Zeta. Did the Psycho Gundam ever actually get used in battle outside of fighting Byarlant? That's really the only images I can find of it in combat. Looking to pose this monstrosity.
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>>10167676
I remember from many threads ago that based on Lindwurm new Zeta head sculpt, there will be a new Zeta Gundam but nobody believed me

But yeah, not feeling that Lindwurm, if they gave it a new rifle and more details like the Rebawoo. But yeah, it just looks like an expensive blue Bawoo
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>>10168780
It's unleashed in Hong Kong(?) by the Titans and the MK.II fights it once, sort of fights it a second time before its pilot disappears for another third of the show.
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>>10167676
Are those markings stickers or waterslides?
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>>10168786
Got ya, honestly trying to follow that series by just the wiki is giving me a headache.
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>>10168798
watch it then
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>>10168804
Eventually, it's on my list. But since it's not subbed, I can't watching it while working, building or working out.
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>>10168813
fair. i just watch stuff while i'm eating dinner, but it's pretty slow since it only takes a maximum of 2 episodes to eat, and 90% of the time only 1
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>>10168836
>takes a maximum of 2 episodes to eat
>he eats for 40 minutes
you're a fat fuck, aren't you?
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>>10168836
>taking 35+ mins to eat
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>>10168785
Zeta ver Ka had been rumored for years before the lindwurm came out, plus the heads are nothing alike.
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>>10168845
>>10168854
eating slowly is better for digestion. most fat fucks I know are food scarfers who finish eating first.
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>>10168813
Zeta is not only subbed, it also has an english dub too. Pretty much every Gundam series asides from old obscure SD stuff is fully subbed at this point.
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>>10168845
>>10168854
>you're a fat fuck, aren't you?
no, you ignored the rest of the sentence retard. it only takes more than 1 episode to eat the odd time i get a pizza or something, like once or twice a month. and even then it's more like 1.5 episodes but i'm not going to stop watching half way through an episode. a normal meal i finish in about 15 minutes, not much less than 1 episode after skipping the op and ed
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>>10168792
Waterslides.
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>>10168895
Yeah I meanted Dubbed, not Subbed. And I thought Zeta didn't have a dub? Maybe I'm confusing it with ZZ. I ripped everything gundam related ofd Nyan a few months back and have been slowly wading through it.
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>want Kshat
>don't want to paint shit though
>fucking sleeves are all stickers instead of being properly colored part separated plastic
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>>10168896
whatever you say, fatso
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Anyone knows what is the aproximated height of the figure rise suletta and miorine? im planning on getting them maybe to do some customs.How do they scale with regular figuarts for example?
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>>10170140
Can't find anything on the figuarts comparison but they seem in-line with most of the 30MS kits, slightly smaller than the previous couple gundam figure rise standard kits, and slightly taller than the average HG. I've seen a lot of people body swapping the heads with the 30ms kits too (mostly the swimsuit bodies).
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>>10170382
Thanks Man, i pretende to get them exactly to mix with the 30s bodies, since i pretend to get the figuarts down the line for the regular design
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New thread: >>10170450
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>>10161852
took me a while to get that it was about the pose. Despite playing XRD to death and loving it, this was just too random
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>>10158330
Yeah I'm not spending 10 dollars on waterslides for every kit



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