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same as last time, post your favorites and discuss adjacent lines. pic related is the batman skywing. I've onky recently discovered it and it seems to have some kind of pull back mechanism that makes the bike flap its wings and rapidly open and close its jaws.
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there's a few batmen which have my eye lately and pic related in certainly one of them
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I wish it wasnt such a pain in the ass to learn the name of the box artists behind the mission masters artwork. For alot of the early Kenner product its pretty easy, but once Hasbro bought them out everything quickly grew cluttered. If any of the artists behind these pieces are still around they would do well in slapping these designs onto some shirts or something.
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absolutely bonkers shit
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>>10052783
Honestly its not too hard to find old Kenner/Hasbro people on linked-in/instagram/facebook. My recommendation is that you try sending messages there. Kenner/Hasbro isn't that big a company in the design departments all things considered, its likely that if it was done in house it was done by somebody who knows somebody on a design team.

Its actually amazing how apathetic the fandom can be when it comes to looking this up. I've see anonymous people on /co/ and /toy/ do more work into finding info on this than longterm fans.
Like for example, M Sipher in the Transformers fandom claimed that Machine wars was made after botcon because of fan response to a Kenner employee's claim they were gonna make a G1 line. He claimed the Kenner employee who said it was actually making things up and disappeared after that Botcon...but that's not true at all, I was able to look up videos from that Botcon, found the employee, and am trying to reach out to him to see if I can ask some questions.
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Picked this guy up recently, he's much more aqua coloured in person (maybe there are variants). I had the Total Justice version as a kid and it was my favourite Batman figure, and easily the one I played with most, but the wings always bugged me, never knew there was a version that not only had the cape but was in the Neal Adams style blue and grey, which is my favourite costume colour scheme. So I've gotten essentially the version of my favourite toy that I've always wanted.
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>>10053058
nice! funnily enough getting both a total justice flash and a random kenner btas variant in the same grab bag a few months ago kicked off my latest kenner kick. I still havent been able to identify the batman I got, but atleast he's in good shape. flash however is really chewed up, literally. I might post pics if the thread catches on. since we're talking total justice though, what do you think of the hologram figures? pic related
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>>10053257
>what do you think of the hologram figures?
I personally have never been a big fan of hologram/translucent style figures unless there's a major precedent for the character to look like that, like force ghost Obi-Wan, or clear "invisible" variants of the Predator. That being said I definitely think that Green Lantern looks cool, like some twisted shadow version of GL. I also really want the Supermans from this line, the long haired version, and the Red and Blue variants (pic related).
>flash however is really chewed up, literally. I might post pics if the thread catches on.
Might as well post them to keep bumping the thread and stimulate discussion. Or post a pic of the Batman, someone might be able to identify it.
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Glad we're continuing this. My Wayne Manor Returns era arrived. I got it mostly complete save for the belt for the costumer changer.

It's pretty nice I like it.
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I wish there were reprolabels so I could replace and customize the cave.
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>>10053433
The hard light holograms were evil versions of the characters, created by Lex Luthor’s Injustice League.

They’re from Morrison’s run on JLA in the 90s. You should check it out if you’re able. They are some of the best Justice League stories ever, and his run basically shaped the modern idea of what the league is, both in and out of comics.
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My suit changer is missing the belt but that part isn't too hard to replace
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>>10053058
Good on you, bro. Glad you got that grail.

>>10053257
It's still amazed by these figures, since they're the first time a then-current arc from the comics was adapted in figure form. Barring the Secret Wars line of course, since that was intended synergy.
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>>10053706
>Good on you, bro. Glad you got that grail.
Thank you. There are few things quite as satisfying as finally getting a grail, and in this case a grail I didn't even know existed until I stumbled upon it in a YouTube video.
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I know they're not really connected beyond being from the same era, but I always associate the Total Justice figures with the Justice League Task Force game for SNES. That game was kinda crappy but I still enjoyed playing it.
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>>10053829
I also may have paused it a lot during the Wonder Woman stages because of... reasons.
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For me it's Fractal Armor Batman
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>>10053433
I'll start with poor old flash then. I got him along with the batman and a random beetleborg for 5 bucks total. Even with how chewed up he is I couldnt leave them there. I'd like to repair him some day but I am as inexperienced as they come with regards to epoxy and painting. Whoever owned him previously really did a number on him. Oddly enough though the damage is focused entirely on the right side of his head and right hand. Otherwise he's like new.
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left side view for those curious
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and heres the batman of the hour himself. I've looked through figurerealm's archive of old kenner batmen and I've still yet to find a match. The backs of his legs read "Kenner 1995", and since that date coinsides with batman forever it's made the search all the more irksome. Let me know if he looks familiar to any of you guys.
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one last bump with a brighter image
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>>10054479
It looks like he got his skull crushed or something.
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>>10054506
lol yeah my immediate thought when I saw him was more or less "holy shit Lee Harvey Oswald assassinated Barry". It's very clear some kid or maybe a dog chewed him up though. There's tooth marks decorating the left side of his head.
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>>10053628
>>10053630
Two belts, one for each side. I'm missing one, and the long black fence on the back. But yeah, reprolabels would be amazing for the cave. Finding that large black clip on pipe that you fill with water was a pain.
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>>10053581
if somebody could just find an original unused sticker sheet we'd be set. for the time being all I can suggest is tracing the measurements of each screen, downscaling screencaps of BTAS, and proceeding to print and cut them out as stand ins.
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>>10053625
I cant tell you enough how entertained I am to see images like this. Knowing most animu figures fit into 5" scale vehicles and playsets tickles my brain in ways I cant explain. I think someone posted pic related in either last thread or a previous DC thread. Eitherway I adore it.
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>>10054619
am same anon. The Kenner-style stuff works pretty good. Really hoping McFarlane announces more vehicles. Their super powers figures are disappointing but the vehicles are decent and not overpriced up the ass; just wish they had more features to be on par with the original.
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>>10054479
>>10054482
Man that is rough. You might be better looking for another damaged figure to act as a donor for the head and arms and just boil and pop them for a complete figure. Maybe use the spare as a "zombie Flash" or something.
>>10054493
>>10054500
I give you Tri Wing Batman. I used http://batmanytb.com/ActionFiguresandDolls
It has basically every Batman figure ever produced catalogued. It was how I found my grail Neil Adams style Total Justice Batman.
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>>10054760
I love every pic you've shared thus far in that case. I even saved the one with the kamen rider guy piloting the bat wing
>Really hoping McFarlane announces more vehicles
same here, the two we got stole the show completely. hopefully he took note of just how many batwings and supermobiles sold and delivers more like them.
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>>10054980
thanks a ton anon, you're a life saver.
>You might be better looking for another damaged figure to act as a donor for the head and arms and just boil and pop them for a complete figure
funnily enough I was considering doing exactly that. I even intended to ask about the boil and pop method. I know older kenner SW figures are easy as pie to pop and swap parts on but I wasnt so sure with their later figures. If it can be done I'm totally down for doing it.
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In looking through all the countless batman variants to come out of kenner, I've found an additional four or five I'd love to get. The later release of sea claw batman (the one on the left) is a great example. It goes to show how much color can really change a figure.
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>>10055034
>method. I know older kenner SW figures are easy as pie to pop and swap parts on but I wasnt so sure with their later figures.
I haven't done it with Total Justice figures, but they are still using the hard plastic torso and softer limbs. I think if you warm it up enough it should work, plus a figure as damaged as that Flash figure makes for a pretty decent test subject.
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"Robin, I'd like to be alone with the sandwich for a moment."
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>>10055414
Kek. I actually own that same Wayne Manor after my childhood friend decided, perhaps wisely, or perhaps not, that he didn't need to keep all his old toys. I couldn't let it go to the dumpster though.
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>>10055051
yea true
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Can we speak, for a moment, about how good these Batman Returns penguin figures are?
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>>10055534
These little guys would be worth buying even if they couldn't be turned into adorable, tiger-striped, war machines.
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>>10055534
This apparently became an injoke at Kenner as the most ridiculous thing they ever put out.
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>>10055555
>>10055543
Makes sense.
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>>10054512
>Barry
That’s Wally you fucking retard
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>>10055534
They're pretty neat.
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>>10052760
imagine the ridiculous toys we probably would have gotten if Batmanime had happened instead of Justice League
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>>10055618
>>10055557
>>10055555
>>10055553
>>10055537
>>10055534
I'd argue they're the most legendary of kenner's offerings up until you get into the insanity of the legends of the dark knight collection. I cant believe they pegwarmed so hard back in the day. It's a shame really.
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>>10055618
huh I never would have thought spinmasters offerings would fit in so well with vintage DC stuff
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>>10055632
Speaking on Batmanime, I can only imagine the toys looking like hasbro Beyond offerings. Lots of neon colors, circuit board patterns, big chunky BMX boots, etc.
>Batman on Mars
I genuinely wish this had happened. Even if it wasnt Terry, seeing Timm tackle such a silver agey concept like zur-en-arrh would have been a blast. They kind of touched upon a few silver age hallmarks in JL/JLU anyways. Stuff like the Justice Lords (basically a bush era take on Earth 3) and their reimaginings of the minority characters from superfriends as government guinea pigs.
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>>10053628
>>10053630
Those “Super Powers” figures are fantastic
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I should collect more loose vintage Batman figures to add to the collection. Got them all in boxes in storage as I redo my rooms and need to make new cases and displays.
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>>10056198
it's impressive collection you've got there nonetheless. I especially appreciate ben cooper mask.
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well gentlemen the boil, pop, and swap method proved successful. here's the damaged head.
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>>10055615
sorry anon it seems we were both wrong. turns out it was Tommy Pickles all along
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>>10055414
I had a solid chuckle at this.

>>10055498
>I couldn't let it go to the dumpster though.
I've never understood the mentality of just tossing items. I use to work with a woman who told me that roughly every six months she would have her kids round up all the toys that they didn't want anymore and just throw them in the garbage. Not even making the effort to donate them to Op shop/thrift store.
Speaking as someone who still has almost all their childhood toys, this just boggles my mind.
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>>10056562
That is a damn long neck peg. It makes sense when I actually think about the figures, but I've just never considered it.
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Turbo Glider Robin is such an odd vanilla Robin. His body is just from the legends of the Dark Knight version so he has more ab detail than animated Batman. Then there's the glider which is just silly. Did Dick make this just so he could be on equal footing with Kiteman?
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>>10057354
As a kid I was a sucker for any glider toy because you could stick a string on two posts and have them flying.
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Time for sky adventures.
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>>10052766
He looks amazing, but there's no chance you're gonna get his weapon into his hand without scratching the chrome plating off. And you have to take it off every time you want to open or close the jetpack.

He's also kind of scary to pose because he's entirely hard plastic which feels like it might just snap if pushed too far.
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>>10056878
As melodramatic as it sounds, stories like that make me shudder. To think so little of items, even those you've lost interest in, that you won't even give them away to let others enjoy them. Makes you question why they bought them in the first place.

>>10057355
Same, although I just liked the concept of Batman being able to fly under his own power, although my personal favorite will always be Glider Strike.
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>>10057578
>that you won't even give them away to let others enjoy them. Makes you question why they bought them in the first place.
I think it's just a wasteful mentality, like people who are perfectly fine with letting their children destroy their toys because either "we'll just get them another one" or "We'll just get them more toys" and how much money they're just pissing up against the wall through buying new toys, and also letting their children learn the lesson that they shouldn't look after their possessions because they can just get more.
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>>10056178
Thanks.
Yeah, I can see why a lot of people have high regards to them. Really wish the lines that homage them actually brought back the gimmicks. Maybe in the alternate dimension where hasbro still had dc instead of Marvel...
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I just want to go on record by saying the most ridiculous and absurd Batman figure ever put out has to be, hands down, Virus Delete Batman. He looks like he got assimilated by the Borg. Aside from that I have a bunch of Kenner Batman figures of anyone is interested in taking a look at what I have.
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>>10058537
>the most ridiculous and absurd Batman figure ever put out has to be, hands down, Virus Delete Batman.
I see your Virus Delete Batman and raise you Spline Cape Batman from Legends of the Dark Knight.
>Aside from that I have a bunch of Kenner Batman figures of anyone is interested in taking a look at what I have.
Sure. Even though some of the figure got really over-the-top and borderline silly, I don't think Kenner every put out a "bad" Batman figure.
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>>10058537
>Virus Delete Batman
>>10058703
Lol I think it's just a side effect of the 90s with crazy x-treme proportions and crazy detailed sculpt. Pic related looks like he's gonna go virus bustin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpxVgW4dZCs
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>>10058537
>>10058703
Legends of the Dark Knight really was the twilight of Kenner's run. For my money neural claw batman was the craziest of the line, and that's saying something. LotDK gave us a robin with dragon wings and a catwoman in an eva suit.
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pic related
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>>10058970
I loved that armor as a kid, I played with it a thousand more hours than the Catwoman
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>>10058982
I think everyone did, as a 6 year old a robot panther is way more fun than a scantily clad selena kyle. the older you get though you start to appreciate both lol
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>>10058537
>Aside from that I have a bunch of Kenner Batman figures of anyone is interested in taking a look at what I have.

Please do, the best recourses for these are Dinobot's page and Inside the Batcave, which is hard to dig old info on. These figures need way better high res images out there.
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>>10058975
the aesthetics of this line are fascinating. they really threw everything into the gumbo. cyberpunk, body horror, 90s anime, its great. the recent mcfarlane baf kind of scratches that same itch. check out this digimon looking fucker.
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>>10058964
I'm sure Knight Force Ninjas has fans and I do like aaron Archer's designs and all, but they felt like such a downgrade after LOTDK. Just looked like toddler toys in comparison. I get that technically this was the same as the Kenner that handled past lines, but it felt like Hasbro made them do smoother, chunkier designs.

Whcih si interesting because their Superman TAS line didn't go for the animated look but more comic book looking bodies with toon heads.
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>>10059062
I wanted to get Azrael until I was told the KFN figures aren't to scale with the other lines
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When I say absurd, I don't mean it in a negative way. They're just some of the wackiest fuckin concepts that forces me to imagine what kind of situation Batman would be in that would require a neon green suit with a massive claw lol. I'll never stop enjoying these figures as I have since the 90s when I was a kid, but they're still a unique oddity.
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>>10059219
By the way, I've always wondered exactly which issues of LotDK these figures were supposed to be based on? I know Legends of Batman had a few Elseworlds related figures.
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Man I had all 3 of these. All that remains is a few acesories. Very cool sculpting style in that line.
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>>10059231
Sadly I lost the face mask for Robin because it's so small, and the second it hit the carpet I knew it was gone. I do have the Man-Bat from this line and I'll post more tomorrow along with him.
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Holy shit I forgot about that mask until you said it. Very Darkness-esque as I remember it.
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>>10059247
It almost looks like one of those airsoft or paintball masks but I got a Jason Voorhees feel from it when I first bought him. It looks cool on him but I can't find a replacement anywhere without buying a new Robin.
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>>10058537
My vote still goes to Anti-Virus Bruce Wayne. I mean, just look at this thing. Translucent "holographic" armor, a gigantic flaming hula hoop and a light-up feature that didn't quite work right. It's a masterpiece of Y2K-era toys.
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>>10059416
>Y2K
I remember actually being a little on edge New Years Eve 1999. Now days I'm just sad that the 90s ended. I'm sure the tone of the late 90s could have continued through the early 00s but 9/11 really did just ruin the fun "it's the cool slick year 2000 future" vibe that had been building. I'm not even in America and everything became just a little more dour.
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>>10059416
I remember actually going to my local target with mom and seeing pic related and wanting him because at the time, I thought he was like battle damaged or something (probably because it was the only Batman I had seen without an actual shirt)
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And here's Man-Bat. He has an exceptional level of detail compared to some of the other's seen in this line. If you had a magnifying glass, you can actually read everything on the name badge still attached to his lab coat.
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So I have a near complete TDKC and Batman Returns lines. Was thinking of doing some good high res photo's of each, once I get it all complete.
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>>10059812
I love how Kenner realized that the actual Returns Penguin was too grotesque to be turned into a toy so they just reused the Super Powers one

But by the time of Legends of the Dark Knight, they probably would've totally made a movie accurate Penguin if it had been relevant by then
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>>10059416
this is true batmanime power
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>>10059222
I love his manta ray glider so much
>>10059625
LotDK has a lot to admire, but the villains really are the highlight of the toyline. Manbat, Clayface 3, Scarecrow, and that weird ass joker in the giant fake body that comes with evil trading card henchmen remain unrivaled to this day.
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>>10059852
maybe it's just because returns is my favorite of the four films, but I never picked up on how truly grotesque devito's penguin was as a kid. now I see it all in full detail and frankly I like him more. I kind of wish kenner gave us a gross out tmnt esc peguin figure based on the devito iteration that had a slime gimmick and biting action.
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>>10060043
I also love, in a movie where they have a full on Duck vehicle that would have super fit kenner's style, we instead go the Umbrella Jet.
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>>10059222
>I've always wondered exactly which issues of LotDK these figures were supposed to be based on?

I don't believe they were specifically based on any.Not that there was a lack of alternate Bat costumes in general to choose from, but LOTDK the toyline was mainly just capitalizing on the trademark.

I'd love to see alternate Batsuits of the 90's and before run through the Legends filter. Stuff like Simonson's future Batmans tory from Black and White, or Predator vs. Batman's armor. Electro Surge Batman in LoB was loosely based off Dark knight Returns' armor.
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>>10060038
I have that Joker but he's in storage right now. I only bought him for the weird imp he comes with and of course I couldn't find it anywhere in the comics, but at the same time I didn't expect to.
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>>10059625
I remember reading comics with the ads for the Legends of the Dark Knight toys. I got the Scarecrow a couple years back, I still want that Man-Bat. The Joker I don't really dig.
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if you ask me, the only vintage spiderman line that really stands toe to toe with the best of kenner's batman figures is pic related. web splashers amd arachnophobia are also up there for me, but mostly its pic related. that ultimate morbius and vampire spidey alone are the shit.
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>>10056564
Do you have autism?
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Dug up some old friends. The oldest of these bats have been with me since I was a toddler.
They're pretty beaten up and lost pieces, but their ears seem mostly fine at least.
I have more but need to look for them, especially Flightpak and Knightfall. really tempted to buy more historical LoB figures, too.
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>>10061467
Of the LoB stuff, these are two standouts. Batman as a Zorro with the dark Rider, and the Robin Hood Batman( cribbing both Green Arrow and Robin's whole thing). But really, Robin Hood and Zorro form so much of Batman's DNA; I wish they made a Shadow inspired pulp Batman in this line too. The Robin Hood one I remember having a miniature bow and arrow that fired off tension, which was really cool.
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>>10061491
The Batman Forever stuff is a highlight, too. Just some of the best designs in the era. I love the headsculpts to them; Aaron archer lamented they couldn't use it after the movie licensing was done.
I consider getting that Hot Toys BF Batman, but I realize so much of my attachment to those designs comes from these toys, so not having the white eyes feels odd.

I especially love the blue armor-up Batman. I love that gimmick so much I've plunged way, way too much money on figures with that feature as an adult.
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>>10061497
Decoy Batman was probably my favorite as a kid and mine has seen..better days. When I was 9 or 10 I discovered DKR and got obsessed witht he big black bat symbol, so I started "customizing"(drew with a sharpie) big black bats on a bunch of figures. Now I prefer the yellow oval.

They really should make waterslide batsymbols to fix up old figures like this, feels like the first thing to get scuffed up on these.
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>>10061503
Finally some BTAS variants. This sculpt is still really impressive, if this came out today I still think they'd feel nicely done. It really does lend itself well to a lot of variants, even in a wine red or gold it looks "right".

I would love to see these figures modernized in some way. Once I accepted the Mcfarlane line as sort of a modern version with a bunch of Bat variants. I gotta admit I'm very tempted to pick up that Hazmat batman and give him some orange or green colors to make him a modern Infrared Batman or Fireguard or some other variant
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>>10061467
great collection anon, >>10061503 especially put a smile on my face.
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>>10061467
>>10061503
That customised Decoy Batman is such a perfect example of childhood thinking and play. I love it.
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These vintage Batman Kenner-wank threads are great.
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Wasn't the previous thread just a generic boomer toy thread?
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>>10062828
It started out with some guy complaining he couldn't get a regular grey and black batman as a kid because of these lines and it evolved into a positive thread about these lines with people also posting similar non-batman ones.
It's not a general so I guess you could still post about those
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>>10062377
I've always preferred these open ended threads to generals, they just allow for more natural discussion. Last thread was an especially good example. Anyways Im bumping with a power attack mutant assault batman. Power attack was obviously a Mattel line, but I hold it in high regard for it's aesthetics and emphasis on fun. It's possibly the most kenner esque batman line mattel ever put out, although arguably the 2005 line has its fair share of homeruns too.
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I wish this kind of effort was more common place among these toylines. I adore the power attack artwork.
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>>10063273
These are cool and all, but what keeps me from liking this and the Super friends line is how kiddie the sculpts look. They're great and all but it just feels more dynamic when they go for either classier animated styles like BTAS or more robust comic styles. The stye of this(and some lines like Knight Force Ninjas) just end up looking too soft.

I really like what Mattel was doing early on where their Batman comics line was also using cool variant colors and gadgets.Still probably my favorite comic style Batman sculpts outside of DC Direct. And yes I own Mafex.
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>>10063394
It's odd how no one discusses that toyline. It's one of the few batman lines I can think of that no one really clamors over. My favorite from that line happened to be a batman dressed in brown and black. I also had the killer croc from the same series for a time. Funny how croc is one of the few bat rogues that always appears in these lines.
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I really do love the Legends of the Dark Knight line. So much weirdness in there. And so many great figures, especially the big guys: Bane, Clayface, and Man-bat.

That Clayface is legit one of my favorite figures and basically the only good figure of Clayface II.
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>>10059625
Vaguely interesting post about that Man-bat. Great figure.
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>>10063555
And he works at multiple scales.
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>>10063495
There's surprisingly little records for late 90's/2000's toys. Transformers and Marvel Legends are the few thoroughly documented and well photographed ones. So much from this era is stuck in early 2000's resolution pics. Sometimes the only way you get better pics is through someone putting them up on eBay.

I actually did get that Brown Batman in the Joker 2 pack at Big Lots. That Joker is still one of my favorites too. I didn't appreciate the Batman enough back then, though, and painted it in all black with a red symbol like Batman Beyond. I appreciate it more now, it'd make a good rustic Batman if he ever investigated a case in the woods.
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>>10063555
are there any other figures of clayface II? I've only ever been aware of that bad boy. I cant get enough of his man e faces head either, it's such a great gimmick.
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>>10063591
>There's surprisingly little records for late 90's/2000's toys
Now that you mention it that really does seem to be the case for many lines from the era. I wonder why that is. Perhaps it's entirely just the result of obscurity or something.
Back on the brown costume for a moment, it's the kind of variant suit kids take for granted unfortunately. As an adult the color scheme really suits a particularly gothic take on the character. I do love the subtle touches of silver too. Kids, especially at that time, however dont really consider that. They usually just want a cool toy.
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>>10063495
I've heard people complain about the lack of elbow articulation and the mixed media cape (plastic on the shoulders then cloth down the back). Me personally I've love those figures, I only ever got the standard black and grey suit Batman, but to me it's one of the most definitive looking Batman figures. It's not tied to some other specific Batman like one of the movies or BTAS, or line wide style like Mattel's DC Multiverse, it's just Batman.
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>>10063610
>I wonder why that is. Perhaps it's entirely just the result of obscurity or something.

As someone with vague memories from going on forums around then, I think its because at that point collectors could start buying more collector oriented toys by then. I remember the attitude with a lot of stuff back then was that they wanted the accurate look and everything else was filler. So while everyone was buying up the Zipline Batmans and Toy Biz Legends/Classics figures, these were just bought by kids.
For example, when this Knightshadow Batman came out I thought it was cool as fuck, but everyone online thought it was just a cheap cash-in or Black Panther ripoff. Even these less strange non-canon redecoes were shunned.
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Late 90s/Early 2000s is also around the time vidya was moving beyond the usual Mario or whatever and shooting out huge blockbusters like Starcraft, Halo etc
Also online gaming was more accessible with Xbox live and mmos (WoW came out in 2004).
Also Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh cards
It's a dark age for a lot of people when it comes to /toy/ stuff unless you were into Transformers Armada and Beyblades I guess. Also around this time Lego was dangerously close to going bankrupt
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>>10057377
When I was a kid mine snapped its foot off.
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>>10052760
This thread inspired me to look up some of my favourite childhood toys (I lost literally all of them except Lego somehow) and my favourite ones are so overpriced with insane shipping. It ain't fair.
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>>10054980
Is there a good site like this for Marvel?
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>>10063889
This archive of Marvel Legends.net will cover most things in the 2000-2012 era at least. I remember their coverage begin not as good for the last 10 years. currently its down, though.

https://web.archive.org/web/20220308215224/http://www.marvellegends.net/
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>>10063698
>Knightshadow Batman
Now we're talking, the early days of DCSH is my shit. If you ask me this was the true peak of action figures. All the new fangled articulation with the crazy original designs the toy companies cooked up. Pic very related.
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Of all the variants over the years, this is still my favourite Robin of all time.
I don't know what it is, the silver and red armour, the happy grin on his face, the jet pack that looks more like one of Gotham's skyscrapers than an engine, I don't know but I love it.
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>>10064282
ultraviolet ambush batman makes for a great companion to glider robin in retrospect. speaking of robins though, my favorite is easily artic blast robin. that glimmery dark blue is just incredible.
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>>10063822
I wonder what prompted Kenner to put so much effort in their gargoyles line to begin with. The show was great and all dont get me wrong, but was it ever as big as batman or tmnt? The sheer number of variants seem to imply that it had been to some degree.
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>>10064930
Kenner was just bringing their a-game to everything, and Disney tailor-made Gargoyles to be there boy's action series to give them a Batman/TMNT/X-men style show they needed. So its natural their merch push imitated those shows. Disney's plans would be to have Gargoyles as the core of a bunch of action spinoffs from it(which is why the second season introduces so many characters)

But yes, it kind of bombed on them. Part of the reason was probably Weisman not playing ball with them. Infamously, when Kenner asked them to feature a vehicle on the show, weisman had it used for 5 minutes and blown up. Kenner then asked them not to advertise their toys like that. To bring things full circle, Aaron Archer who started on the later Legends of Batman toys was initially hired to work on gargoyles, but the line was cancelled by 95 and he was shuffled to the Batman line.
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>>10063394
You just reminded me of another grail to look for, Attack Armor Batman. A highly contested release at the time since it was such a heavily stylized sculpt with great articulation. Also the fact some felt it was a better representation of Tim Sale's Batman than the Long Halloween figure that was released around the same time.
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>>10065724
Tim Sale? No way, thats The Biz's version!
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>>10064926
>ultraviolet ambush batman makes for a great companion to glider robin
You're right. Looking at them, if you swapped the red out for black/dark blue they could almost be a BTAS style equivalent to the silver arctic suits from the end of Batman & Robin.

>>10065724
I see less Tim Sale and more Kelley Jones. I didn't even know this figure existed and now I need it in my life.
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>>10065160
>Infamously, when Kenner asked them to feature a vehicle on the show, weisman had it used for 5 minutes and blown up.
I actually a frame in an an old Superman comic that features Superboy's VTOL cycle from the Kenner toyline.

Yes, that's "frame". It literally only appears for one page and then is dismantled offscreen.
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>>10058964
Neural claw is for sure the coolest of the line imo
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>>10066516
But every one of them is a banger. I really ought to see about picking up the heat shield one and the scuba one, maybe spline cape too.
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>>10066519
seeing these guys in such HQ is really a treat. you're doing god's work anon.
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>>10066257
>if you swapped the red out for black/dark blue they could almost be a BTAS style equivalent to the silver arctic suits from the end of Batman & Robin.
we kind of got that in the crime squad series with super sonic batman. I might be wrong, but I'd even dare to say this specific mold originated in that line.
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>>10065160
I hate when show runners are petty about things like this. Especially when they had it so much easier in those days compared to how difficult later action cartoons had it. Theres some action cartoons from the late aughts that even baked in toyetic concepts into their premises to spur on merch sales that would sadly still fail regardless.
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>>10065160
to this day I've still never seen an episode of gargoyles but I still sure as shit love the toys. you nailed it when you mentioned kenner brought their a game, because nothing else from that time really compares to the gargoyles toys. I remember having a goliath variant with textured skin and some robot doppelganger of him too, those two were great.
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>>10066516
He even has a wicked name, Neural Claw Batman just conjures up images of a Batman attacking the brain, scrapping his claws across your mind, maybe he's not the real Batman, but the nightmarish Batman that stalks Jonathan Crane in his nightmares while locked up in Arkham.
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>>10066574
>I hate when show runners are petty about things like this.
I can see an argument going both ways, on the one hand, playing ball and putting in stuff that can be turned into merchandise is how a show really makes money and keeps it on the air long enough to tell stories. On the other hand letting executives meddle so much that the show does nothing but shill the next toy is how you end up with Transformers G1 having a revolving door cast, or Batman & Robin.
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>>10066568
Aw thanks. I might dig them out and take some more pics later. These are just older shots I still have around.

Clayface and Man-bat always get mentioned, but it really think Joker is underappreciated. His gimmick is so absurd; I love it.
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>>10066593
And of course my boy, Scarecrow. If he had better articulation, he'd be 10/10. He's already super bad ass and has some excellent lightpiping.

I've been eyeing some Banes on ebay, so I'll probably grab one soon. I'm iffy on Penguin though. I prefer when he's just a rich guy leaning into the aesthetic rather than a mutant.
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>>10066595
I have this Scarecrow, he's awesome except for the shoulder articulating not letting his arms move forward, great display piece though. The Bane is pretty awesome too, and depending on how insanely huge your mental image of Bane is he scales with basically every line.
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>>10063822
God damn, I just had to look this guy up. Honestly what a beautiful figure. No idea this gargoyles subline even existed. Shame he's so pricey on the secondary market.
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>that awkward moment when you see your mom/mentor's old wardrobe and its more revealing than you expected
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>>10067087
>Dem thighs
Even though that hip articulation always leads to ridiculous leg spreading when trying to put them in a seated position (to the point where you may as well not bother on some figures) it does make for a very clean sculpt, which is especially nice on those sexy and extremely leggy female characters from the 80s/90s.
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>>10067087
Tfw no batgirl from that one comic where she had to go nude.
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>>10069391
>that one comic where she had to go nude.
Which one? There's been multiple. Or we could just get figures from all of them.
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>>10067087
That's by Aaron Archer or by a team he managed, I remember him defending it on Twitter in a "it was a style at the time" type manner
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>>10070321
Imagine having to defend a 20 year old toy that most people didn't even know existed and of those that did most probably forgot. Seriously if cancel culture is going to be a thing I think aside from really fucked up shit, anything over ten years old should just be dismissed. Or we could just stop listening to people screeching on Twitter. To quote Dave Chappelle "I don’t give a fuck because Twitter is not a real place."
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>>10070582
Actually he wasn't being canceled or anything, it was him replying to some nobodies post that maybe had like 5 likes on it, calling it "Bikini armor Batgirl" and nothing else, but he felt like justifying it.
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>>10070296
this would be ideal.
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>>10070655
To be fair his original sketch didn't have so much skin, the final deco made it so.
Also looks like a blonde here
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>>10070919
If they released this deco it would make for a good Steph, change the head and do the whole thing in black and you could have Cass.
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>>10070296
I'm going to hazard a guess the other anon was talking about the storyline from Batman Confidential #17-21. For research's sake.
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>>10071355
You're probably right, but for me, my mind went straight to this comic.
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What do anons think about the Adventures Continue line
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>>10072353
Aesthetically they're great, but I pretty much immediately dropped any interest in this whole series of figures because of the QC issues, the only ones I got were the Batman and Phantasm two-pack.

I have been playing around with my The Batman figures from 2004 recently, because I just bought the whole series. I forgot how much I like these figures, wish I'd bought more when they were on shelves. The first release of Batman with the permanent grappling hook accessory always bugged the hell out of me though. I undid the batarang bit and just tied the cord off, which kinda helped. I've ordered one of the later releases off eBay recently so I'm waiting on that to arrive.
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>>10066516
>>10066519
I'm with these guy, i need a Neural claw Batman, i just feel like it
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>>10066519
>>10066516
Looking at these again and
>>10065724
>>10063591
While I liked what Mattel brought to the line...I think Hasbro could've done a similar job if they applied themselves to. I even think the LOTDK head is better than the early Mattel head
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>>10072634
>I think Hasbro could've done a similar job if they applied themselves
On the one hand I would have enjoyed to see what modern Hasbro would have done with the DC license, on the other I would have dreaded to see how Hasbro would have behaved with both Marvel and DC under their belt. Say what you will about McFarlane and Spin Master, but at least they aren't taking the absolute piss with pricing like Hasbro.
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>>10072819
Well in this case I don't necessarily mean modern Hasbro, just 2000' era, contemporary with Toy Biz. That said I do think buying up Toy Biz's Marvel stuff helped Hasbro refine their own collector's lines; their 2000's GI Joe which was their most comparable product was just far behind what Toy Biz was doing.
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>>10061491
I still have my horse, not sure if I have the batman zoro anymore.
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>>10072832
I remember early 2000s Hasbro with their Star Wars and G.I.Joe stuff. First they were doing some interesting things with the Star Wars stuff. The diagonal cuts allowing for elbow bends was an interesting innovation, then they started doing those weird really blocky, angular figures. All around I think Hasbro were just not bringing their A-game, the articulation on all the figures was lackluster, the sculpts (especially on Star Wars) were weak, the only stuff that was worth a damn was Transformers and I think that's because they were letting Takara do all the heavy lifting when it came to engineering.
I wonder what things would have been like if Toy Biz had bought/merged with Kenner.
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>>10059620
Thanks doc.
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>>10072877
You also have to remember around this time Kenner was basically dissolved, and a few employees were absorbed into Hasbro proper.
According to Aaron Archer, when Hasbro offered people to come to Rhode Island from Ohio where Kenner was located, a lot of people chose not to leave. Kenner was in Ohio for like 6 decades and people didn't want to uproot. That's how Aaron got the Transformers lead role; the old lead didn't make the move.

Killing Kenner really set Hasbro behind, they were prideful and thought they could handle it on their own and it just fell apart in a lot of brands. Jurassic Park similarly never recovered, and the JP3 line was marred with design errors like the designers being inexperienced on scaling figures which delayed production in some cases.
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>>10059812
that's a pretty sweet collection. Got the happy meal toys too?
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>>10073136
>Killing Kenner really set Hasbro behind
Easily the biggest mistake Hasbro ever made. I can understand them wanting to consolidate, but they should have just left Kenner alone to look after Star Wars and JP. Hindsight and all that I guess.
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one of the best customs ive seen in a while. thought id share it.
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>>10072627
should neural claw batman become the mascot of these threads? if not him, then what bat-variant should?
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>>10072627
Grab one. The whole line is cheap as shit on ebay.

>>10073503
This is great. This legit seems like a redeco they would have put out.

>>10073510
Not a bad choice of mascot. The question is how many threads about just old Kenner batman do you think can continue?
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>>10073566
/toy/ is a slowboard of oldfags, I can see these threads cropping up every so often and lasting a few weeks each. I think the thread before this had a pretty good run of nearly 2 weeks.
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>>10073503
This is awesome, like anon >>10073566 said this really looks like something Kenner would have put out. Even the text on the computer screen looks accurate.
I really wish I had space in my house for playsets.
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I have one of these large vinyl Robin figures, I got it from (I think) a WB Store that used to be in Crown casino in Melbourne in the late 90s/early 00s. Does anyone know which Batman goes with it?

>>10073566
>The question is how many threads about just old Kenner batman do you think can continue?
As many as we can get. Me personally I like the feeling of these threads as opposed the constant screeching in other threads, like the DC general where it constantly devolves into people starting a shitfight between Hasbro and McFarlane. I just wanna talk about cool toys, and if those cool toys are also from my childhood that's a bonus.
Though I will admit I have been monitoring this thread to keep bumping it up from dying, saved it from page 8 at one point.
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>>10073566
I love how he still has the oval bat logo. It barely works aesthetically
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>>10074597
burger-anon here, I cant say I recognize the figure but my immediate thought was that giant kenner btas batman with the light up eyes. there's a batman forever equivalent of this thing too if youre on the prowl for it. just look up " 15 inch tall batman kenner"
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>>10074790
I've seen this one around, but the Robin is only 11" and I'm fairly certain it's not based on BTAS. I had this weird thing as a kid where I was more into Robin than Batman, in hindsight I wish I'd gotten the Batman instead, or as well (whether or not my parents would have paid for both is another matter). I remember this being a problem in 90s Australia too very American stores opening up and then disappearing, Planet Hollywood only lasted like 1-2 years.
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>>10073566
>>10073510
>>10074597
we could probably expand the thread concept to be for retro Superhero/Comic Book toys in general, would give us even more material to work with
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>>10075076
sure. I'm okay with this.
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>>10075076
>>10075089
I am also okay with this. Just so long as we don't get too contemporary, unless it's some really wild or whacky variant.



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