Ligma Balls Edition>Previous Heresy:>>90983049『Horus Heresy』>Official Websitehttps://thehorusheresy.com/>New to The Horus Heresy? Here’s Everything You’ll Need to Get Startedhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/05/30/new-to-the-horus-heresy-heres-everything-youll-need-to-get-started/>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloads:https://www.warhammer-community.com/faqs/#the-horus-heresyhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/downloads/#the-horus-heresy>Thread FAQ (very old, remembers Age of Terra)https://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8https://pastebin.com/8riDmnhS>30k TACTICA & TIPShttps://pastebin.com/Tm2P4QLphttps://1d4chan.org/wiki/Age_of_Darkness-Warhammer_30k/2.0_Tactics/Legiones_Astartes_Tactics>Fluff(visions and BL)/folder/FepmWCBL#mVFzgCLouF_RDkRX9LgNeg/folder/OiATGCjK#jW1dY6KRM6zshg0A7bvWkA>HH1 Black Books/folder/s9xQ3CiA#9a594y1utfRGxKLxiIy2aQ/folder/QkpUCIhK>HH2 Rules and Supplements/folder/7jYhnbzT#CHimCvMfmF86Gwoc7nh4ZA>Thread Question:What is the largest model you own? Is there a gradient of size you will never overstep?
>>90997010>TQI don't know whether a Shadowsword or a Knight Crusader is larger, but those are the biggest. Don't really have reason to go bigger.
I'd like Mortus Poisoners to be better, Andy.
>>90997010>>Thread Question:>What is the largest model you own?A Lord of the Rings Mumakil>Is there a gradient of size you will never overstep?Considering to get a Thunderhawk as the final model after finishing painting all other units.
Andy fix Atramentar by making them WS5 and less expensive NOWWWWWWWW
>>90997010>What is the largest model you own?An unprimed Cygor/Ghorgon count-as Samus Look out! Samus is here!
>>90997092>making them WS5I don't want this to change. I had some good times making fun of them for their WS4 and seeing other anons do the same.
>>90997092Fuck off Morlocks and Gorgons need the price drop worse
red butchers should be free
>>90997156Gorgons yes, Morlocks don't need it though
>>90997010thunderhawkthey are the aeronautica ones tho
>>90997047;__;
>>90997010TQ: A Falchion. That's my current cut-off as well, unless there's some future where I own my own house and can really dedicate room to the hobby. Given the job market, housing market, and the hobby I'm in, this is unlikely
>>90997168Red butchers should be fixed by just giving them even more of a bucketload of attacks. No access to thunder hammers or whatnot, but just such a sheer avelance of power axe attacks that they can go toe-to-toe with WS 5 thunder hammer wielding terminators anyway.
>>90996299>they saved the day on multiple occasion despite being treated with indifference at best.They did get pats on the back and compliments from most of the other loyalists even from some Sisters iirc at some point. It was only Garrius that remained a stick in the mud about them.
>>90997264Yeah, this and removing the retarded 'counts as ws3 for being attacked' thing would be enough. I want them to be good because they're the coolest looking terminator
>>90997010Knight size stuff is the biggest I have built and painted so far. I do have a chaos reaver and 2 warhounds in my backlog boxes though mocking me silently every day.Post models anons, I just finished the Kytan and now its back onto a box of the new mk3 and shitloads of SA tanks and infantry.
>>90997045put them in a bucket of water and see what their displacement is
>>90997047I never got the morty boysIsn’t a single alchem flamer worse mechanically than two alchem hand flamers?
>>90997372>removing WS 3What else would you suggest to represent the fact that red butchers are so lost to the nails that they fight with complete disregard of defense?
ravening madmen should give you exploding 6's on to-hit rolls in melee change my mind
>>90997436It's a pretty stupid concept desu
>>90997134>>90997092if you're using them right they're WS5 anyway>make them cheaperOK they can lose Fear(1) and Deep Strike I guess that'll make em cheaper I mean fuck dude you can bring 15 Atrementar onto a ZM board for 1RP or for fucking FREE if you take Sevatar as your WarlordFREE REINFORCEMENT TERMINATOR SQUADS OF 15 DUDES>durr make them betterwhy don't you suck my dick, you're shit at everything else you gotta have some kind of skills
>>90997522they're a pretty stupid legion>>90997458no no if you get hits on 6 you should roll for wounds on those separately and if you get another 6 you should get to roll again and if you get another 6 the attack has Brutal (12) and Instant Death and AP1 and you get to fly to Vegas and hook up with a waitress because you're so cool and skilled at games of dice
>>90997529>if you're using them rightanon, +1 to hit in a very specific circumstance is worse in every way to being ws5 and if you're not retarded, you already know that
>2023>HH2.0 still doesn't have White Scar recon jumppack squads
>>90997584literally every problem that people have with this game is fixed by just playing world eaters and bringing rampagers
i guess you can bum them with AL thoughthey're not as good
>>90997010What would 30k look like if he was in charge?
>>90997704But my problem is that I can't bring enough Knights Cenobium to the table.
>>90997915well how many are you finding yourself limited to?
>>90997849Shit.
>>90997849Just as bad, but differently so.>>90997704No plastic CC options. Checkmate theists.
>>90997970yeah i'm staring down stamping out about a hundred individual falax blades w/ putty and bluestufffortunately they're pretty friendly for duplication and can even be improved upon a bit i'm thinking, if i dare and only on a child of the master to at least begin with
>>9099793170, once I buy the rest.
>>90998001surely seventy is more than enoughi consider forty five of my full blown aids ridden african wild dogs to be pretty fucking adequate in the way of prize beasts being fielded
>>90998023>blown aids ridden african wild dogsNot sure if Firedrakes, or Varagyr?
>>90998023You have your fetishes and I have mine.
How does this look? I've still got 90ish points to work with to take it to 3k. Might take some suicide-scouts. I feel like this is a pretty good all-comers list, only thing missing is termies.
>mk3 ruined by redesign>the hints of the mk 2 redesign have so far been goodWill it finally be our time Mark II crusade bros? In ten years...
>>90998308maybe just a teensy bit all over the place? maybe you want more a color palette as opposed to a force with a very pre-programmed structure though
>>90998395>plastic mk.2please see the vehicle accessory sprue xir
>>90998397I was just thinking more in terms of threat saturation with doubling up on the predators/dreads/rampagers. Just one of each isn't very scary but two of them are. But it does look very spammy..
>>90998487there is nothing wrong with redundancyyou're shaping a demicompany of space marines, not picking and choosing a series of monstrous tyranid creatures or the like
>>90998395>ten yearsWhy wait 10 years when you can start recasting the bits now and slap on some 3d printed legs? We all know GW is gonna fuck it up somehow, no point in waiting for them to do it.
>>90998059
I like mk II because I like the lobster legs.
>TQWarlord Titan. The don't make them any bigger, so I'm thinking of printing out a Warmaster.
>>90997010I've got a Porphyrion. It kicks ass about 50% of the time I field it, which is a lot better than I expected. I'd go up to a Reaver but that's only because I like how looks. Otherwise not interested in owning pure display pieces.
>>90997010>>Thread Question:>What is the largest model you own?> Largest unassembled modelA recast Warhound that I have been too intimidated to build. I've bought JB Weld and brass rods and a couple saws and hand drills and fat fuckin' magnets for the arm weapons, I just haven't been able to sack up and get it started.> Largest model if I am being a pedantic dickheadI have a Citadel Realms of Battle board, the old WHFB one with the small cliffs/plateau> Largest actual assembled model if I'm not being a pedantic dickheadA 40K Stompa> Largest HH assembled modelA Recast Fellblade that I have only used in a handful of games of Warhammer 40K. I don't actually play 30K proper, I'm just waiting for ligma since it will mean I'll finally be able to use some of the retarded amounts of AT and AI models I boughtI am currently working on painting another AT Warlord. I love these models. I can't decide which Legion to go with for LI though. I'm thinking of doing AL with this color scheme - I have a shitload of unopened pots of Guilliman Blue glaze and a couple of Waywatcher Green glaze as well. Hopefully they're still good.
any leaks for the LI rulebook yet
>>90999079> Largest unassembled model>A recast Warhound that I have been too intimidated to build. I've bought JB Weld and brass rods and a couple saws and hand drills and fat fuckin' magnets for the arm weapons, I just haven't been able to sack up and get it started.Fuck anon I feel this very specific feel
>>90999163>in the midst of chaos i found there was within me an invincible calm
>>90999163The first time I read about Executive Dysfunction and ADHD Paralysis the first thought I had was "Holy shit, this is the EXACT problem I have had for years! I finally see that is it an actual issue with a name, what a relief!", and the second thought I had was "This really just sounds like something a lazy person would make up to try and justify why they're so fucking lazy".
>>90997092Altramentar and Lerneans got so shafted for no reason
>>90999207Depends on context and other symptoms anon. By itself yes it can be an excuse for sure, but for a fully neurodivergent individual with other large ADHD traits its fkn crippling and feels like having an anchor around your neck all day every day, then you the right meds and it melts away like mist in the sunshine
>>90997849A lot more femboys
>>90997264Just give em lightning claws
>>90999234Shit cunt terminators for shit cunt legions, seems legit
>>90999244Silence, pissboi, fist urself
>>90999207they love it because it has the word 'executive' in it
>>90999234Lerneans at least get the c-beamer and they're core units so they can be decent at shooting while scoring, but yeah, the whole '+1 to hit' thing is just worse than ws5 in every situation, very weird
>>90999387It's a very strange unit indeed. Maybe good for holding down an objective in big games, instead of an tissue paper tac squad. What annoys me too is the overpriced power fists.
> Fuck these minis are tinyI've been doing quick and dirty paintjobs on old Epic Rhinos in different Legion schemes to see which ones are fun to paint before LI releases. I can't decide which style of Dark Angels iconography I prefer though. They're not really a Legion that I'm into, but I like their 30K scheme so I did one.Also, have any of your HH players ever seen someone show up to a game with Dusk Raiders? From a lore perspective are there any of them left by the time the Heresy begins? Shit like an expeditionary force that was on the other side of the galaxy when Mortarion was granted the legion and changed its name, that sorta thing? The red and gray colors I have seen for them look really nice.
>>90999480Some Blackshields rebranded to Dusk Raiders
>>90999236For me it was the whole "Not being able to do [a thing] because you constantly feel anxious, like you're waiting for something to occur, and it never actually happens". That doesn't really make sense because I am not describing it well (it is a very difficult feeling to describe), but it hit the hammer on the head perfectly for me.I got a prescription for adderall from my doctor, but whenever I actually take it it just helps me focus incredibly intently on whatever I happen to be looking at. I still don't work on projects or do things, instead I'll just waste a shitload of time being incredibly engaged with something that serves no real purpose.The other day I literally spent a little over six hours doing nothing but reading about shipwrecks in abyssal areas of the ocean floor. It is an excellent ability, but I really need to try harder to channel it into things that are actually productive.>>90999381It does give it some validity, doesn't it? "I'm not lazy, I have ɛӼɛƈʊȶɨʋɛ ɖʏֆʄʊռƈȶɨօռ which greatly impairs my ability to perform tasks".
>>90999532>ɛӼɛƈʊȶɨʋɛ ɖʏֆʄʊռƈȶɨօռliterally >i can't keep a lid on my shitand hey, i get it, but the point is to move out of it (or much rather into it) and become yourself instead of fruitlessly treading water at the event horizon of the call to address your own suffering and live in your own truth next to fear of the unknown and loss of what you 'have' (as though anything is not shattering and halting in its transience in all truth)this world is filled with many fish tasked with climbing trees and monkeys forced to dive for pearlsyou are, of course, your own tiger
>>90999406Lemeans are cool if you use them against chumps you're trying to bully but are weird to use. they don't really fill a role.you could say they're meant to be hunter killers that leave behind no witness but still, not really high tier, especially when your legion rule can let you get better terminators
I've got a useless spartan sat around and I want an assault army so redpill me on the World Eaters
>>90999695are you angry
>>90999480I fucked up the checkers on one side, but this is enough to convince me to not paint any more Dark Angels again, ever.
>>90997849Emps would have had a wife and cheated on her.
>>90999532Adderal is a pretty shitty ADHD med for these modern times and if its not addressing the root cause of the executive dysfunction then other things and treatments need to be explored. GPs are very hit and miss for correct prescriptions, I would if you have the spare disposable income see a proper specialist trained in such things. Also diet, exercise and proper sleep hygine are essential components as well. God speed anon, paint hams and laugh while killing
>>90997287Yeah, even the SoS had no qualms with giving them their full powers and weapons back, they really were reasonable guys.
>>90997387Looks straight out of Doom, I like it.
>>90997092Give them better weapons than fucking chainblades instead.
How I stop myself wanting to shove my face into Sanguinius' fluffy wing and taking in a lungful of angelboy smell?
>>90999710kind of, mostly tired though.
I can't sleep and none of my friends are up so I am painting Rhinos.This will be the Alpha Legion Rhino.
>>91000043You'd ask yourself if Sanguinius wanted you to do that.
>>91000043He probably smells like a roided chicken.
>>91000043Calm down, Joe.
Why did they do the Spicula Rocket System so dirty? It's not even fucking good, it's an autocannon with a blast marker. Why give it a unique rule specifically to make it break after two turns of shooting, or even just one?
>>91000474>artillery pieceHere's your answer.
>>90999695>I want an assault army>World eatersUltramarines are a better assault army than WE
>>91000474All artillery has been heavily nerfed this edition to punish it for the crimes of the previous onesExcept for the Scorpius because it has a brand new plastic kit that needs sellingStill, the stats are not that bad. It's a 7" blast with rending, that can hit a lot of modelsWhat's fucking weird is that it's not even indirect fire anymore
>>91000687oh no no no world sisters how could this be?
>>91000687UM work a lot better as a mixed army than dedicated assault
whats the name of the weathering....powder? solution? that dries looking sandy and dusty?I need it for some wheels
>>91000837Texture paste?
>>91000886no it dries looking all sandy but has no real texturethink of it more like a wash than something like valhallan blizzard texture paint
>>91000912It's probably not streaking grime either so something like the AK Dust and Dirt Deposit? If it is it's just pigments.
>What's that? A creepy little runt who psychopathically maims kids? What a find! Surely he'll be a credit to the Emperor's finest.
>>91000837Weathering pigment?If you mix them with a mat medium and apply them they will presumably look matt and dusty when the medium dries
>>91000950>who psychopathically maims kids?It was self defense or accidentsIt's clearly stated there, anonPlease improve your reading skills
>>91000949>>91000964the ak dust and dirt is close to what I mean, thanks to anon who mentioned itis there other brands of the stuff?
>>91000950In my old country. Kid throws a stone at an APC. Soldiers pacify the village. Called heroes at home, and the new goverment of my country made to thanks the soldiers goverment, for "saving us from terrorists".
>>91001069based
>>91001094not really. FFW a generation one people from the same nation are now fighting as merc for either side in ukraine. It is not fun or based.
>>91000774GW stole this from us, Astartes too
>>91001106Only the bankers win during war. Who founded Big E?
>>91000950I love this little shit.
>>91000950Sauce?
>>91000774That wasn't as much of a dig at WE as it was me saying UM melee is fucking retarded with its RoW, legion units, and guilliman>Ws6 veterans, Suzerains, and locutarus>Ws5 legion agnostic melee units>All with +1 to chargeWhoever thought that was a fine thing to give an army should be taken out back and shot
>>91001158I would trade him for Tarvitz anytime.
>>91001148the asian familes that funded and gave recruits to his custodes program. At least that is how it was in the old lore. For all we know, today it could have been a super powerful and rich woman, who was the real Emperor, and our daddy E was just a front to deal with misogeny and racism.
Working on this little guy. I love the model so much.I wish I could find a way to run more than 2 haha (the other is just a stock Vigilator)
>>91001168WS6 vets? How?
>>91001174Well Big E had a multicultural, progressive and diverse empire, so that makes sense.
>>91001177I like how he's posed with a pointing finger like he's trying to explain that his rifle goes to 11.
>>91001189Veterans are base WS5, Logos Lectoras Retribution Strike mode gives all your infantry units +1 WS and charge at the cost of -1 BS for a full battle round
>>91001166Warlord of the Dark Millennium. Afaik it's the only source that elaborates on his pre-Murder backstory at all.
>>91001206at the end of the subjegation of earth yes. But when he started and when one considers who he considered chaff, and who were important tools, it was a bit less diverse.
>>91001225Holy fuck that's insane
>>91001057Plenty, just google wethering pigments. You can even make your own. https://fromthewarp.blogspot.com/2011/08/making-your-own-weathering-powders.html
>>90997047>>90997092>>90997156>Mortus Poisoners>Atramentar>MorlocksDo anons here even use the Exemplary Battles units? I mean have you kitbashed the models as shown in the PDFs and used them in a game? Because I don't think I've ever seen any pics of anons EB units posted in here.
>>91001237It takes a little bit of time to figure out the timing on your modes, but once you get it down Logos Lectora is one of, if not the most fucked up rites of war in the game
>>91001168>>91001225I mean, yea, it's really strong, but it's also debuffing all your shooting units and it only lasts for 1 turn. It's hard to make it work consistently tho it's great when you do.WE rampager spam is pretty good just from how good the falanx blades are. There's not extra though put into it, you just have a stupid amount of WS5 attacks with rending 4+
>>91001255I had no idea, they got solid legion snowflake units too.
Worked a bit more on the Breacher Delegatus. Thoughts on the shield?Also, what should I do about the gun? I fear it'd look awkward between the gauntlet and the shield.
>>91001158It's by no means reciprocated.>The Solar War>Sons of the Selenar>The Lost and the Damned>The First Wall>Saturnine>Fury of Magnus>Mortis>Garro: Knight of Grey>Warhawk>Echoes of Eternity>The End and the Death vol. I>The End and the Death vol. IIReminder that Lucius does not appear in any of the above.
>>91001213He's actually holding a round, he's about to chamber it. I still need to paint the bullet and gun. However, I like your explanation way better so that what I'm gonna think about now."This little baby is absolutely Brutal(2)"
>>91001168>>91001225GW definitely doesn't understand how big WS is, they completely fail to balance it anywhere, and I noticed they have never re-used the 2.0 ws chart, most recently in TOW.
>>91001459>Garro: Knight of GreyIs there a pdf of this around?
>>91001558Yes.
I want to use picrel as the base for a BA chaplain with mace of perdtion to run with some dawnbreakers. Should I use the default skull helm or the one on the right? What else shoud I aim to do to help him pass as artificer mk 4/5? I'm not to keen to fuck anything up on him since the muscle texture is pretty great.
>>91001567May you share it?
>>91001459Why does GW hate the sword tard so much
>>91001252There are some EB units that are worthwhile, like the Huscarls, the Nemesis, the Deliverers and the Chieftains. Sadly, they are counterbalanced by things like Mortus or Atramentar ebing poorly thought-out and generally pointless.Some, especially Dominators and Morlocks, need merely a point adjustment in one direction or the other.
>>91001457great job anon. I saw your model pre shield attachment and it looked good. Now it loks great. Are those SCE hip armour protection? Congratulations to makeing a great looking model. If he was scaled up, I think he would be a great Polux.
>>91001614I'm a fan of the Effrit too, this shotguns are awesome and a squad of ten on the charge is pretty scary despite WS4
>>91001457What if the gun was underslug to the fist, a bit like calgars/dreadnoughts support weapons ?
>>91001593He's just not interesting. There are a bunch of monstrously powerful duelists in the story and each one of them is way more compelling to read about than him. Same within the legion, he just pales before people like Fabius and Eidolon.>>91001637Effrit are great, yeah. A banestrike salvo followed up by a flurry of power dagger stabbings is no joke.
>>91001581Sure
>>91001748Much appreciated anon.
FerrusManus
>>91001841Haven't seen him around in a while.
>>91001892He could show up anytime, keep your head on a swivel.Oops!
>>91001841How do we fix him.
>>91001593The universe itself loathes him when you really think about itThe 'blessing' he got really just means he's doomed to job for all eternity, forever mocked and screamed at by the souls of those who were better than him.
>>91001669>he just pales before people like Fabius and Eidolon.This is foreign to me. I don't know how anyone would develop a strong preference for Eidolon over Lucius based on the reading material. I mean there's a single novel with his PoV in it. And I like that novel, Path of Heaven, but I wouldn't say that the EC parts were the most compelling ones, or even that Eidolon was the most compelling EC character to read about in that novel. And I also don't understand how anyone would make their way through the original trilogy, Fulgrim, The Reflection Crack'd, and Angel Exterminatus and think back on Eidolon as one of the standout characters in those stories. It's a strange sentiment.
>>91001933Not sure, a head-scratcher of a problem.
>>91001841>>91001933worth a shot
>>91001841>>91001892>>91001932Ferrus Manus is my friend
>>91001960Eidolon will turn things around with his new book
>>90999480>>91000114I feel like talking about epic today so I spun off a generalfeel free to come on down if you want to shoot the shit about tiny tanks, post tiny tanks, or bitch about how much GW is planning to charge for tiny tanks.>>91001964>>91001964>>90999711you're a goddamn maniac, anon, but god bless
>weeping for FerrusWEAK
>>91001177But, you can.He's not unique.
I Lion El'Johnson take the heterosexual pledge, I vow ALWAYS to STAY STRAIGHT and only be attracted to women and NOT men.
>>91002086>more than 2He can never be Compulsory HQ, so the most you can ever bring is two in a primary detachment.
>>91002159>What an odd thing to say
>>91001568Change the pauldrons to beakie ones to make it look like artificer mk5 along the round kneepads.Fill with putty the flayed flesh of the armour and the cross in the knee. Thats a 40k Death Company thing.The skull helmet is fine, BA chaplains did use them in 30k, although I don't know about the ponty teeth. Maybe file them?Otherwise the model is fine for 30k I think, it helps that BA loved bling
>>91002237Also I would remove the wings. They're nice but it will make the mini look more grounded and in line with other 30k jp minis outside of the Sanguinary Guard
>>91001669>>91001593I think theres also the issue of "hes a character in 40k too", its hard to give him too much focus because his "arc" is over there - its where he gets his whole immortality and possession thing.
Is the 10 man Lascannon HSS + Armistos combo actually good, or is it too many eggs in one basket?
>>91002069If only Ferrus Manus were still alive...
>>91001960He's fairly consistently written as an brilliant but impetuous glory-hound who starts at 'asshole' and works his way down to 'monster' (mirroring and highlighting the Emperor's Children as a whole), the consequences of his actions have considerable impact on himself, his legion and the entire civil war and the mistakes he makes are generally based on his personality in a sensical way.Contrast and compare Lucius, who is almost cartoonishly evil from the start and never really moves from there, has a motivation that starts and ends at swordplay and generally may as well not have participated in the conflict for how little he mattered in it.
>>91002619Ferrus Manus is my favorite primarch. Shame that he's usually portrayed as a retard by BL, not that I read that crap anymore.
>>91002619Is he the second most favorite primarch of the primarchs after Sanguinius, or does Horus still beat him?
>>90999532ipad baby brain is a real thing. However, the glamorization of mental illness and celebration of big pharma “treatments” are a hallmark of our generation. It’s unrestrained slaanesh-level autofellatio and i fucking hate everything about it.t. dx with adhd and takes addy
>>90999532>Henlo doctor, I have ADHD pls halp>Here take these>Oh goody, now I have autism instead, much better thanks docMedical professionals, lol.
>>91002836>takes pills to sleep in the goo pod more comfortably>simultaneously posts that dumb murderous polack who'd castigate him for doing solol
>>91002836None of these things are real, you've just been fucked up by constant media exposure and mind bending "meds".
>>91001457Cool. Wheres his chestplate from?
>>91002883NTA. Unsure the planet can sustain 8,000,000,000 hunter gatherers. Agricultural machines will always lead to current year
>>91001568>>91002237>remove the wings>swap the pauldrons>fill in the DC crossAll sound advice, though I think he can get away with keeping the shoulders. It’s entirely possible to carve away the rim so that they look more like MkV/MkVI if you have good enough knife skills.>fill in the flayed armourWhy would anon do that? He may as well not use the model at all.
>>91003009the earth as a being doesn't benefit, nor humanity itself, from any more than five million or so human souls manifest on its surface at once by my personal appraisal of the matterthat said, what's going on here is an ebin bulk processing job i cannot help but admire
>>91002069Idk how much of a retard he was, but he seemed BASED.I think that + SoH KILLER attitude is the epitome of a space marine
>>91002843American Psychiatry has become a destructive joke more focused on pill-farming to paper over symptoms rather than putting in actual work to treat causes. Worse still, this outlook has been spreading to other nations that haven't been following our methods and model.We've trusted too much in pharmaceutical intervention that it's become our go to, to the point of treating our treatments.
>>91002883I’m choking on the goo bro. I want out. Uncle ted was right
>>91003071SoH killer attitude? Huh?
>>91002843>>91003244you're confusing "do no harm" for a thing that's actually possible, it's notmedical intervention is "least harm" (and has been since shortly after someone pointed out to Hippocrates that "no harm" is a fiction)doesn't help that American psychiatry is for-profit and Americans are encouraged to simply bypass the training of their primary care physician to go direct to secondary care, where the secondary care physicians are unable to diagnose things that would be obvious to someone in general practice and so the patient ends up being treated according to whatever the secondary care physician knows within their specialism, which can make things worsebut also>>90999532your problem isn't really the drugs (that's just what you might think of as a state change within your central nervous system) it's that you don't know how to focus on thinks that are useful to youbut you were like everyone else born not knowing that and at some point really should sit down and learn it, I know that sounds like a self-help book from the 80s or something but the bottom line is, most people who go to therapy for the first time have that moment where they realize they have to do the work, they have to improve themselves and the person they're talking to can't reach into their brains and re-write them the way they want to bethat's a thing you have to do, and it's tedious, and it's sometimes hard and sometimes seems like it will be hard, and it can mess up your other plans and force you to make decisions you would otherwise not have madebut without it those drugs are just you taking drugs, it's no different to being some hippy on LSD in the 60s or raver on mdma in the 90s, for some people it's going to work for some people it's going to have profound effects without them really doing anything, but for most people it's just a high to chase, without guidance from experienced minds, effort on the user's part it's just taking drugsthe Mad Men school of medicine
>>90997010>TQMy falchion currently waiting for a simple green bath. I also own a partially assembled stormraven and I plan to eventually buy one of the 3rd party chassis extensions to run it as a storm eagle
>>91002925I take it to sit down long enough and write my dissertation. I take it when needed (writing) and i’ve only been taking it for 8 months. I have 5 bottles full of the poison out of 8 scripts i’ve had refilled.
>>91002722No, Ferrus was a sperg, Fulgrim was his best bud.
>>91003033Flayed armour is a Black Rage/Death Company thing, note which BA characters use it in 40k: Astorarh, Mephiston, chaplains, DC dudes ...It shouldn't exist in 30k before Sanguinius death.
do the new mk3 sprues work well with the heavy weapon weapon kits, I have some ryza las and mars plas cans coming and was hoping I didnt need to buy more arms for them
>>91003429The MkIII kit comes with extra vambrace bits to put on the HW arms.
>>91003373Also, how fluffy/retarded/viable would it be to run a storm eagle stuffed full of khenetai if I’m doing an inductii heavy force to the point its got some terminators and veterans wearing my force’s inductii colors to represent how few oldheads are left
Do you bring a Primarch? Should you notify your opponent or discuss it with them first?I don't think I've ever actually seen a Primarch in a game yet
>>91003350100% agree. I don’t believe adhd is mental illness. I think it’s a phenotype that’s selected against in the post-industrialized copro-west. Boys and girls that can sit still and do their meat robot tasks without distraction are heavily rewarded with dopamine-dumping rewards. For the unlucky population that doesn’t comply to this narrow behavior phenotype, they are punished, but now recently given a “fix” in the form of a pill: an easily marketable subscription service to enable easier participation in the corporate dopamine reward cycle. There’s no escape short of a cataclysmic collapse of everything, which won’t happen.
>>91003450Only five primarchs can actually have a significant impact on a game and even then it is still limited. Mostly they are a points sink and a huge risk, a dreadnought can kill most of them.
>>91003379Ferrus already got the most perfect bff, why would he need anyone else
>>91003450I bring them when my opponents insist on them, but I play AL and Alpharius is kind of overpowered.>>91003511I agree with this, most of them are overcosted melee beatsticks that can be outpaced by dreads (Contemptor or Levi's). They're good at fighting dreads, but so are equivalent points worth of shooting.
>>91003511Out of curiosity, what are those five Primarchs? Angron, curze, Alpharius and Guilliman all seem decently useful to their armies.
>>91001614Anon plis explain to me how are UM Nemesis any good
>>90999480I've got a force of them, I figured since the colour scheme is just bare ceremite + the red arm, it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to assume a terran DG preator might revert to the old colours to show his loyalty to the Emperor, plus it looks cool.
>>91002581A 10 man las canon HSS is already a priority target that is going to die pretty quickly if your opponent is not a dumbass so I would abstain from putting even more points into it. Maybe go with an apothecary insteadThere's probably more useful things that you can do with the HQ slot
>>91004059>A 10 man las canon HSS is already a priority targetLascannons aren't meta though
>>91002673>He's fairly consistently written as an brilliant>consistently brilliant>Eidolon>J. Jonah Jameson laughing.gifhe's consistently shown to be the exact opposite of that
>>91003468ThisCan't believe they drug kids so they're easier to manage.t. worked in children care, colleagues were the hard ones to manage.
>>91004104Anon you were not funny the first 700 timesStop beating that dead horse
>>91002581a tech marine is probably a better choice since its cheaper and and elite choice instead of a HQ. take an armistos anyway for style points.
>>91004059me and my buddy imposed a ban on ourselves bringing lascannon HSS, what exactly is the play against them?
>>91004176scorpius shitfuck, if you want something that it's actually powerless against
>>91004176Deep striking cenobium knights inside a kharybdis with a biomancy librarian on top of them. Or bringing a typhon.
>>91004201thats funny, we also self banned scorpii.>>91004208wouldn't they just return fire the typon?
>>91004208>half of them die in doing so>typhon gets popped on the spot
>>91004176Indirect fire weaponsWeapons that outrange themSnipers Anything that trades up when it gets shot back, like basic bolters or seekersEven dreadnoughts don't die particularly fast against them
Has anyone suggestions or even examples of heavy weapon backpacks for the new weapon sprues?Since they don't come with backpacks like the FW ones and I think they look better with them, I'm looking as to how I could fix that myself.
>>91002836Fucking loser with no self control.Buckle the fuck down and work.And if you can't, get the fuck out of the way and don't complain when you don't get promoted or have to listen to those of us would aren't children
Please excuse the shitty setup but I'm pretty proud of how these turned out.
>>91003375>writingThat's your problem, it's not your character. In ancient Greece you would have been a warrior, hunter, or some other man of constant action. Modernity has ruined you.
>>91003429Might be a bit iffy bro, the resing heavy weapon kits like those were meant for the older mk4s and mk3s since they fit on their arms. They're slightly smaller and their torso isn't as wide as the new ones.
>>91004517just wanna say I really like your salamanders' eye lenses. underrated benefit of the 30k paint schemes are the different eye lenses people paint imo.
>>91004418You do know they had writers in ancient Greece right dipshit?
>>91004418>Doesn't know about ancient Greece being one of the first to invent the fuccboi
>>91004378You don’t see pink EC like on the cover of the istvaan V books very often
>>91004378Looking nice anon. Please get a lightbox for 10 bucks and take some nice pics
>>91003071>Idk how much of a retard he was, but he seemed BASED.He fucked up once, and his fuck up turned out for better because more IH survived Istvaan. He was angry that his BFF decided to swallow traitor pill and wanted to punch him so badly that he rushed to Istvaan leaving most of legion behind to join combat later. His decission didn't mattered because reinforcing legions also turned traitors so all loyalists in istvaan got fucked. Ferrus was only one who died because Vulkan was immortal so he was just taken prisoner after being nuked and Corax got uber sneak so he was playing hide and seek for 3 months before being saved by deus ex machina. Ferrus's decision didn't mattered because his small force still hit like truck, they were supposed to be reinforced by 4 other legions so nothing changes, said four legions turned traitor so no matter how many IH are on planet they get wiped.Altho BL portray him as dude with anger issue while black book show him as competent conqueror and inventor who get shit done and don't tolerate faliure. So yea he was based af.
Base I finished for my Contempter, he's nearly done, just a few wee mistakes to clear up and get the brown base rim painted in
>>91004592Yes, eye lense diversity is our strength.
>>91004843>Yellow snowHeh
It's annoying that to make proper WE melee troops we need to buy resin heads and weapons. At least they look nice, though
>>91004870The snow is white anon, its a dead marine thats yellow
>>91004418This, modernity sucks. My cope is lifting, gotta move ur body.
>>91004918Soon(?) enough there'll be plastic chainswords & bolt pistols floating on e-bay.There already are some because of the jetbikes but no bolt pistol afaik.
>>91004843>that copper verdigris Very nice, I’m tempted to paint a squad of nullificators in copper with heavy oxidation for thousand sons to reflect heavy combat against the death guard
>>91004944It was a piss joke.
>>91004843>Dead pissboiNice
>>91004956The yellow snow is lemon taste mmhhhm yummy
>>91004732Honestly I wanted to capture them at the point of falling fully to slannesh, some units are going to be further along, with more flayed skin and such.
>>91004843valraks gonna freak
>>91004951Here's the full guy for reference, a few mistakes here and there but he's like 90 percent doneJust mind that if you fuck up the effect paint it gets all chalky and blobby, otherwise just apply the paint liberally and then use a paper towel to wipe the excess downwards and off
>>91004989Too many colours in one model anon. Yellow, silver, black, copper, red, green and yellow is way too much
>>91004378very nice, recipie for the pink/purple?
>>91004956But the snow is white?
>Super happy with land raider so far>little dude riding on top is also coming out well, but had to leave for work before I could get the decal settled completely with microsolpleeease be workable by the time I come back
>>91003344Some legions like UM & IW are soldiers, others like SW & EC are warriors. Others like NL and SoH are killers. Death dealers.Idk it's full on remorseless, merciless slaughter.Like, you remember that 40k bit where some ultramarine wonders whether or not he should kill an unarmed female Tau civilian?A real space marine wouldn't even have listened to her xenos yabbering. Marines can't be reasoned with.
>>91005188>Like, you remember that 40k bit where some ultramarine wonders whether or not he should kill an unarmed female Tau civilian?Fuck he was stupid.>xeno are known for their treachery and tricks>xeno bitch is holding pistol behind her backs and smoothtalking marine with muh honour and "what would guilliman think about this">marine somehow instead of smashing her just listen to her and is starting to think about what she said>bitch pull gun on him and dude is only saved by sicarius who stomp her before she shoot.
>>91005213>xeno bitch is holding pistol behind her backdid she? Anyway it seems that she played her last card trying to appeal to the autistic rationalism of UM, but was fucked over by Cato being around. It just delayed the inevitable for less than a minute unless she could have sold herself as a valuable PoW (probably a worse fate, though)
>>91005188NL arent killers, not in the same way as the others. NL are thugs, they kill but only as a biproduct of their enjoyment of the stuff that comes before killing, the death is simply the end state of pain. Its why theyre also fucking shit at taking on anything in their weight class, theyre not built for that, theyre not warriors or soldiers or killers, theyre sadists and bullies who lack either the cold discipline of a soldier, the pride and martial inclination of a warrior or even the cold "edge" and drive to win of a killer, theyre just there to hopefully pick on something that cant fight back and feel good while doing it
>>91005341>NL aren't killers, not in the same way as the others. NL are clowns.FTFY
>>91005364That also works, even if its not quite as diplomatic a way of putting it. Theyre a bunch of ghetto gangbangers in power armor while everyone else gets like, conan or roman centurions or teutonic knights and shit
What's a good alternative to Red Butchers?
>>91005188>SoH are KillersLuna Wolves bros, why did we have to fall so hard?
>>91005658Rampagers, terminator command squad
painted up another HQ.base model was Rann, who I think is a great base for kitbashing Champions or a Delegatus or something. this dude is a Paladin.
>>9100565810 TH cata with a chaplain
>>91005684heres some of the freehand. the checkers were exhausting to do but not particularly hard
>>91005668They were always ruthless killers I’ve compared to gopniks before and will continue to do so, its just they used to have some professionalism and martial pride restraining their worst excesses
>>91005684Spiffy as fuck anon.
>>91005675>>91005692kinda wish termies could dual wield chainfists or something, claws are ok but not very thematic.
>>91005744dual wield thunderhammers
>>91005763Shame that thunder hammers aren't meta
>>91005782Double the hammer = double the meta
>>91005694The white part of the checker pattern looks a little chalky. But I would be totally pleased if I did it half as clean as that. Good job Anon.
>>91005810>But I would be totally pleased if I did it half as clean as thatthanks anonits actually the red beneath which is chalky, the white merely catches the light. my wet pallette was failing me this entire paintjob, so certain parts are thicker than I intended.
>>91005054Prime blackBase coat Phonician purpleShade the recesses blackLayer on Xereus purpledrybrush of screamer pink, focus on the upper parts of the armour plates, Repeat drybrush with pink horror, but less heavyThen you have to loosely apply Vallejo Flurocent magenta over the pi k horror to make it pop.
>>91005007Post models
>>91005744Make chain hammers for them like the ones from black crusade ttrpg
>>91005658Rampagers are great. If you want terminators, shell out for a command squad. WS5 fists are always good in every single list.
>>91005881>fistssure, if you want to be meta.
>>91005684>>91005694Good work anon, especially like the checks
>>91005881it would've been cool if legion termies could have taken caedere weapons
Ok, a friend's been out of luck with money and I want to give him a hand without making it look like a free gibs out of pity, he's got a 3d printer and is willing to print something, where can I get some decent free STLs? I have no idea where to look, most stuff on cults3d is to be paid.
>>91005830yeah such is life, either way it looks amazing. I didn't even notice the freehanding on the shoulder. Very well done all around.I wish I liked DA more, because I would love to do their 20 man blob army I forget the right or wars name. But the one that makes them have pseudo guardsmen orders.
>>91006109>20 man blob armyStorm of War is definitely one of the cooler rites in this edition. Forty BS5 LD9 Stubborn tacs with a WS5 I5 A3 super sergeant is fucking awesome.
>>91005292Yes she did.Image circling on /tg/ edit out part where tau bitch is hidding gun, just to make Sicarius look more based.Here full text
>>91006154Also as a printfag, it would be super easy for me to make the list. Even a paypig could do it easily. just buy like 4 boxes and some upgrade stuff for the leaders. I sorta wanted to print an army of it for a buddy of mine who's a DA/Guardsmen main to get them into the heresy.
>>91006109>>91006154thats what my army started out as actually, ended up dropping a couple tacs from each squad and they run basically just as well. they get stubborn on objectives anyways, and +1 ld wlt from the praetor, so they're always pretty durable. that said I run a centurion with a fist in my forward squad, and he always proves to be useful.
>sun killers negate ALL cover saves and ALL damage mitigation rollsOk that's kinda good but fuck me it's 785 points for a full squad compared to 775 for a pair of HSS and a lascannon deredeo.
>>91006286But anon, they kill suns
>>91006301yea but what if the enemy has night vision?
>>91006316Just don't bring them agains NL.
>>91006327thats a good segway for me to ask: are NL lascannons busted? If I understand right any unit with "weight" 11+ (rapier batteries, 10 man HSS + character, land speeders, bikes) will essentially have S10 (9 with multi melta bikes) vs vehiclesThat seems really good no?
>>91006286You don't need a 20 man squad with lascannons anon.
>>91006286you arent supposed to bring 20 of them
>>91006316>night vision You fire in their general direction with your sun killer weapons and the the flashy lights shoud burn out their retinas if they are using their night vision
>>91006286To my knowledge it's the only unit that actively punishes you for making it bigger, which is kinda weird. The work pretty well for smaller numbers tho. They also have BS5 so they are a cheaper version of an armistos on a HSS
>>91006356>>91006352Why not? Is it overkill?
>>91006350>Need to be at full squad strength with character/apothecary/techmarine attacheded for +1 Str>Lose the bonus once they start taking casualtiesIt's kinda trash honestly.
>>90997010>‘Emperor Horus, true heir to the Throne and Crown of Terra, also wishes it to be known that anyone – be they human or Astartes – that surrenders their weapon now and abandons the Delphic Battlement, will be permitted to leave the field of conflict, free and unharmed.’>Is willing to forgive The Emperor, Sanguinius, Dorn and Valdor if they want to join him>Is willing to accept the surrender of Guilliman and LionWhy is he so much more generous than the Emperor?
>>91006350Against single vehicles, yesIt's not really hard for the opponent to make you lose that advantage tho.And it's something IW just get always so it's not that brokenNot like killing vehicles is hard to begin with
>>91006382It is a -hilarious- amount of overkill. Ten lascannons on a regular HSS is already plenty in the vast majority of cases.
>>91006416But what if you want to kill the 2w elite marines AND vehicles at the same time?
>>91006382>Is it overkill?That'd be doing 5HP to a vehicle with AV15 in a single round of shooting. And that's the only thing that las canon even struggle against to begin with
>>91006399I know the nurgle and khorne setup for sangy and dorn are dornian heresy references but what was he thinking offering the most pragmatic self restrained man in history a seat in slaanesh’s sex dungeon? Did he look at the massive golden palace and assume it was purely for ego and not because auramite is a psychic conduit (according to malcador in TEATD 1)
>>91006464>That'd be doing 5HP to a vehicle with AV15 in a single round of shooting.>mfw IW do that no problem with a 10 man off-meta lascannon squad. or a 10 man autocannon squad with siegebreaker. or a double storm cannon levi.
>>91006476>And for your father, delight. The reward of pleasure, of pride, the licence to be, at last, what He has always truly been, and to relish that state, no longer burdened by responsibility or destiny, no longer hobbled by the urge to guide or command, no longer crippled by the demands of a thirty-thousand-year-long plan. Here He may sit, and rest, and indulge, and rejoice in power for the sake of power alone. Mankind can make its sorry way without Him. He need never give the human species another thought. >Henceforth, the plans will all be yours.
>>91006507You wish, m8+1S makes them better than normal HSS but those only do 2HP and that's before the vehicle evades. They could get lucky and explode it but it's not a big chance.Autocanons are a meme. They are not good against av15
>>91006578>Autocanons are a meme. They are not good against av15run the math on 10 bs5 IW autocannons with a siegebreaker giving them sunder then say that again, lmao.
>>91006476did he offer Sanguinius nurgle? that never made sense to me in the alt heresy, Khorne is the obvious choice, IH make way more sense for Nurgle
>>91003468A lot of adhd is just kids being kids. Have a first period gym class and the problem goes away because they've burned off the excess energy before school.
Perturabo
>>91006647Sanguinius came from a hellish irradiated shithole and specifically requested permission for it to forever remain a hellish irradiated shithole.
>>91006647In the dornian heresy it was something about polluting and purifying something pure because khorne had already claimed the fists and nurgle wanted his turn, in TEATD it’s because he was terminally ill with daemon piss poison slowly killing him from angron’s sword and that he was gonna die regardless of whether he fought Horus
>>91006655Anything below machine like maximum productivity and dedication to sacrificing everything in name of the economy being seen as a problem also doesn't help. Sometimes it's scary how accurate the grimdark future is...
>>91006690
>TQA resin Castigator I'm still building and painting (picrel). And a plastic Lancer in the box.I want a Warlord one day, but next on my list is a Porphyrion
>>91006647IH is 100% Slaanesh.
How off-meta is too off-meta?
>>90997010> TQA Titanicus Warlord Titan, but one day I'll catch up to my friends, pic related.
>tired of macca>hear he has stls>go to check what they look likekeeeeeeeeeeeeeek toccels quiet after this one dropped
>>91007126>That designKek, it is like looking at first generation FW dreadnought weapons. What a blast from the past.
>>91007126post more, i'm curious to see what exactly he made
>>91007058kratos is meta
>>91006399a God has no need to be vengeful or capricious.
>>91007206It's just unironic slop desuhttps://cults3d.com/en/users/TheOuterCircle/3d-models
>>91006592Same 350 points as regular HSS with an armistos.Autocannons do 4.8, las canons do 4.5.Difference being that half the las canon shots have a chance to explode the target and they are better against any other target
>>91005135>it was perfect when i came backim so hype to see this done
>>91007263In World Eaters?
>>91007335i mean i've got one
>>91007323yeah the off-meta lascannons are still more useful in general but either of them will fuck av15 up.
Anyone got book excerpts of custodes getting btfo'd? It's like medicine for me
>>91007058fuck is that paint scheme christ
>>91004142
>>91007450I play TSons and risked the perils on dropping 12 CombustionsI killed 6 between the initial hits and them moving
>>91007295>https://cults3d.com/en/users/TheOuterCircle/3d-modelshow can he call GW models drek and then unironically try to charge for this shit
>>91007724He's got no principles, he's a youtuber after all
>>91006775
>>91006286but free walls
>>91002925>this thing isn't real, it's just caused by something, which means it is realwhy do retards do this
Exodus is getting closer to being done. I love this little guy
>>91008287mind posting him beside another marine for scale?
>>91008145>angroni had a buddy who purported to have, in those words, cut a man in half with an M2 or somesuch during his time as a helicopter crew chief in the sandbox
>>91008297Sorry anon, I'm out in town now, I'll post that tommorow.He's around the same height as Dynat, who's around half a head taller than nu-Mk6
>>91005188Sounds brutal, no wonder they went traitor.
>>91005423Sheeeeeit
>>91005188>Like, you remember that 40k bit where some ultramarine wonders whether or not he should kill an unarmed female Tau civilian?He doesn't wonder, Cato sicarius kills her and the pov marine feels like shit about it the rest of the book, it seriously shakes him up
>>91007508World Eaters? White, with red and blue secondaries.
How many armies do you got? I think I suffer from army ADHD, I have like 4 half finished legions but none are a complete army. Is allying a good cope?
>>91008337What legion does he play?
>>91008606Got two armies. Began on the first one in HH 1.0 and it's quite large. Started the second one last year, after the launch of HH 2.0, but still maily play my first army.
>>91008606...Define "Army". I've got a solid 3k force of Imperial Fists in old mk3, a still-on-sprue 3k Thousand Sons list that I have all the models for but I'm a lazy shit, I've got enough IG to make something for "cults", probably around 2k if I really stretch it but they aren't really meant for 30k, and with daemons, any fucked-up model will do, so I've probably got like 5k of those.
>>91008606play pretend shattered legions and use a mix of legion forces that does not include any dudes from your enemies legion to avoid confusion and run them all under your warlords legion rules
>>91007058long as you're rammin shit who cares
Tried deepkin flesh for the armour colour rather than diluted skeleton horde. I think it looks better for death guard, though it is more work.
>>91008683Good idea, I hope we get Shattered legions or Blackshields rules. >>91008657Sounds nice, I wish I had the self control for only two. >>91008670I feel better about my backlog now that you mention your TS.
i will bake soon
>>91009848>>91009848>>91009848>>91009848>>91009848new objective
>>91009493>I wish I had the self control for only twoWhat's that got to do with anything? It's a hobby, you get and paint what you want. I want to paint different units from different legions because I like to work on different stuff and kitbashing. That said, I already have some forces around and these are filler projects. If you set out to do one single big force and keep switching, then yeah, it's more of a problem.
