We do use that word here edition.>Bans:https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/august-7-2023-banned-and-restricted-announcement>News:WotC decides to skip rotation for another year, make Standard rotate every 3 years.https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/revitalizing-standardBans now at a set time frame every year, sometime before fall rotation.https://articles.starcitygames.com/magic-the-gathering/new-standard-banning-cadence-next-br-update-announced-on-weekly-mtg/>Spoilershttp://www.magicspoiler.com/https://mythicspoiler.com/CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES>Current meta, complete with deck listhttps://www.mtgtop8.com/https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/>Build and share casual deckshttps://deckstats.net/https://tappedout.net/CUBE RESOURCES>Build and share Cubeshttps://cubecobra.com/landingCARD RESOURCES>Search engineshttps://scryfall.com/https://mtg.wtf/>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://www.makeplayingcards.com/https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM (embed) (embed)>Play online for freehttps://untap.in/https://dr4ft.info/>Old Thread: >>90281476TQ: What format are you playing at the moment and why is it not pauper?
>tqpioneer because phoenix feels so damn smooth right now with 12 cantrips and boros heroic is back to being good, gotta enjoy while it lasts
>>90289280He's right you know
>>90292800feels like i'm getting slung several years into the past whenever i see these cards and i don't like iti'd still fuck a ponk though
>>90292504I'm playing pauper
>>90292800>Your party is always fullfinally, a use for all the zendikar chaff.
Newfags don't know about the pony rule lmfao enjoy your vacation retard.
>>90293004>mlp cards get allowed in all formats>Ends up having more busted cancer than initiative, TRTY, etc>Corrupts every mets deck to feature these bright colorful cards>Every faggot that paraded UB cards before this u-turns their opinion and calls for mass banningsI'd like one monkey paw please
>>90292800>Not accorn legalTo the trash it goes>>90292331No, only the important ones are black.
>tqStandard on Arena I'm actually having fun playing standard right now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MraUiM5q8Lcnew aids just dropped
>>90293238>orcish bowmastersI'll just wait for rotation, thanks
>>90293238why does he talk like that
>>90293431Being a youtuber is a degenerative illness. Listen to how relatively normal he sounds back in 2018.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmo4K14U074Comparing then to now is like seeing your cousin go from a relatively normal guy to a gibbering, manic meth addict.
Are dragon shield sleeves the best sleeves?
>>90293431it's a gimmick
>>90292504Modern because U Tron actually feels decent thanks to the one r*ng and I get to Mindslaver lock nerds every Tuesday
10% skill40% chance50% the size of your bank account
>>90293238OP here, buy an ad.
>>90289926>>90290349Anon I'm happy to help you with questions about this but this really isn't difficult to search, unless your search engine of choice gives significantly different results to mine. Here's a hint: look at the bootlegmtg wiki and you will see what acardgameshop refers to.
Made an AI of a certain leonin everyone here knows abouthttps://spicychat.ai/chat/d28ccc0a-8a18-4de9-8908-851db72fd01a
every once in awhile I'm baffled at the utterly stupid opinions posted in this threadbut then I remember that you retards unironically defend counterspells and land destruction. So clearly none of you actually play the game
Why do you play this clearly bad game?
>>90294100sunk cost, if anyone in these threads had sense they'd just play the league card game which took magic but made it better
>>90294100I don't, I just want to fuck the werefox lady.
>>90294107proving my point
>>90294093Ah, so we're gonna have one of these threads, huh?
>>90294129a thread where you have to admit you're wrong?but that's every thread
>I USE K4RN TO GET TORMOD'S CRYPT HAHA I'M SO SMART I'M NOT TRANS I AM NOT TRANS
>>90294141Okay, I'll say some key phrases to get things rolling: >counterspells >timmies >bluetrannies >mill >land destruction >arenabab>discard
>>90294192at least you admit you're one of the retarded trolls who defends abhorrent mechanicsthanks for compressiong your idiocy for the class
>>90294196They're never going to stop printing counterspells.
>>90294212and real actual people will continue to refuse to play with people who run excess amounts of counters>inb4 guy who never goes outside tries to pretend he TOTALLY definitely plays with people who LOVE counterssave your breath, please
I want to play "old" Magic, not necessarily with old cards only (because those are expensive/hard to find) but I always try to base my decks around older cards. I made a blue robots deck with Triskelion and Traxos for example.Where can I find people who enjoy fair oldschool-style Magic, without delving into straight up old cards tournaments?
>>90294226It's painfully obvious that you're just an EDH player larping as a real Magic player. Go on, try to deny it.
>>90294263>it's painfully obvious you (play the most popular format)so you're mentally ill, that's goodbut I play standard, modern and edhnaturally since you don't play the game you have to sit here and pretend playing the fun formats is somehow bad
>>90294277>admitting to playing EDHI almost admire how brazen you are, but I'm not actually particularly interested in that. I'd rather talk about real magic, so let's have something resembling good faith discussion here for a moment. What decks do you play in Standard and Modern? And what are your opinions about the state of each format?
>>90294277Your concession is accepted
>>90294319>>90294488t. seething that he got kicked out of his edh table
>>90294500>ignores attempt to actually discuss the game in order to respond to baitCome on, I'm actually trying to show at least some good faith here. What do you play in Standard and Modern and what are your opinions about the state of each format?
>>90294527>Come on, I'm actually trying to show at least some good faith hereno, you're not, you're trying to steer the conversation away from counterspells being a bad mechanic because you know you have no actual defense for it outside of whining about edh which btw only proves I was dead on to call you a friendless, nogames loser.Unable to cope with that you're trying to misdirect in the hopes that I'll drop the subject altogether. It's obvious, it's pathetic and frankly, kind of childish
>>90294551Counterspells and similar instant-speed foils are one of those truly great game mechanics which exponentially multiply player interaction, because they turn every untapped land into a potentially instant-speed screw, they take something that was going to happen anyway and turn it into a medium of interaction.You give me no reason to expect a reasonable discussion, so I'm mostly just saying this to make you mad, but we can have a reasonable discussion if you want.
>>90294551You could've easily used the opportunity to talk about how counterspells and other such things are affecting Standard and Modern. I was giving you a big, wide opening for that sort of thing. Genuine discussion. We don't need to just call each other names all day.So I'll try one more time: what do you play in Standard and Modern and what are your opinions about the state of each format?
>>90294100cause some decks are fun
It's insane, every time I come on here to ask something, there's always two autists fighting
>>90294603>Counterspells and similar instant-speed foils are one of those truly great game mechanics which exponentially multiply player interaction,bad bait, stopping your opponent from playing the game isn't "interaction"next.>>90294622no you weren't, you were trying to shift topics out of pettiness
What's the most fun pioneer deck, which still has chances at winning? I wanted to get back into MtG and it looks like the most popular format in my area.
something smells fishy in this thread...and if its not bait LMAO DIS NIGGA GOT BTFO BY INTERACTION HAHAHAHAHAHAHA sneed and conseed you little bitchbtw beanstalk to light is a nutso deck and im only playing modern, can only imagine how good it is with fow
>>90294110I played enough runeterra to hit masters for a few seasons, and the game is still just various flavors of rushdown after the Targon meta. The game is fun but the meta is kinda wack
>about to go to bed>Remember that WotC are definitely going to bring Phyrexians back and pozz them to hell>Cry a littleIt's not right bros
>>90294683>no you weren't, you were trying to shift topics out of pettinessNo, I was trying to stop shitflinging for a moment and actually engage with you, but you repeatedly turned down the opportunity. So fine, you win. No more attempts at good faith discussion.
>>90294110Runeterra has tons of problems The centralization of decks around champion cards make strategies much simpler and more linear (draw centerpiece to win the game, struggle if you don't. Nearly every deck revolves around some sort of engine or bomb if they aren't an aggro or tempo deck), the game's still really young so the card pool is tiny, spells are inherently underpowered because of the spell mana banking mechanic, the aforementioned centerpiece cards make removal naturally even more underpowered and the community gets every form of efficient removal nerfed by bitching about it enough, lack of viable alternative formats means there are less ways for cards not good in traditional constructed play to express their value in different environments, and their form of the color pie is still very underdeveloped and plenty of regions feel worse thought out than the average white card does.It also doesn't help that their mechanics simply leave less room for depth and complex mechanics. The average Runeterra game is more complex than standard at it's worst, but not much else For as much as we bitch about it Magic is probably the most mechanically sound game on the market, even after all this time
>>90290031Does arena have cheaters in big events?Might start seeing who's the best player instead of who's the best cheater.
>>90292559>that artYep, magic used to be based.Since m15 border magic has become utter shit, I am so so glad I haven't spent a dime in a decade, and it's not even a boycott or anything (though it would be 100% correct under any circumstance), it's just that magic is impossible to look at now.
Looking for cards that are shit but funny to play at a 4-player commander table
>>90294683>bad bait, stopping your opponent from playing the game isn't "interaction"lol, you're so dim. Now tell me more about how everyone is afraid to debate with you. lmao
>>90294683>>90295121>Removal isn't an interaction because it stops my opponent from using the creature they just summonedCountering a spell is literally just casting Murder but with one less step. This conversation is legitimately retarded.
>>90295175The first step in forming a rational argument is to stop saying things that are objectively wrong. Counterspells are not literally removal, preventing a permanent from entering is literally different from destroying it after it enters, you are wrong. Countering spells is literally interaction, it doesn't matter if they hurt you're feelings, they're still interaction and you are wrong. I've seen people make reasonable arguments about how counterspells reduce interaction in the wrong term, and they were also wrong, but they were still more reasonable than anything which you might be expected to say.
>>90295078Hey buddy, I think you got the wrong door. The leather club is two blocks down: >>90288702
>>90295203>rational argumentWhat's the point when rational arguments just get ignored and the discussion goes in circles all thread long because it's mostly just two guys (or maybe just one) baiting each other?
>>90292800That looks like liquid shit, at least the first cards looked good (for what they were).
>>90293599KMC hyper mat.
>>90293238squidward plays magic?
>>90294093>counterspell bad!Drooling retard.
>>90292504>TQI play legacy
>>90293599they used to be
>>90294277I haven't seen such a hard self-BTFO in a while
counterspells and land destruction are the reason that vintage and legacy aren't a complete fucking catastrophe
>>90292800Do people still care about this series?
What the fuck is this thread.
>>90294688what type of deck do you find fun?
>search for gameplay videos of a somewhat niche deck>find one guy seems to consistently upload videos with the deck that aren't just 2 hour long twitch streams exports>try watching a video>it's the type of content that aids is a parody of complete with overly happy parasocial interaction with the viewer, incredibly forced, fake laugher and poor script writing, repeating phrases again and again
>>90293431Massive amounts of estrogen and bbc intake daily, that is the endgame of memedern and american globalism.
>>90296529No, fuck you leather man.
>>90296556magicaids is no longer a parody, he has been pretending to be the monster for so long that he has become the monster
>>90296512Your prom date you sack of shit
>>90296556fuck I experienced the same thing yesterday, stop telling jokes and keep talking about the fucking deck
I decided to sell my bowmasters.So in other news, bowmasters will now skyrocket in price and avoid catching any bans.
>>90296671smartthey'll rotate out once MH3 is here
>>90296788I've not time to bleed...
>>90296495No one ever did, it's just manufactured consent and popularity.
>>90296495Porn artists and fanfic creators mostly. Anyone who watched stopped caring after S5.
>>90297011>anyone who watched stopped caring after S5wtf
>>90294100The only MtG I have played for nearly a decade consists of pauper cube and fallen empires - saviors of kamigawa kitchen table decks with my brothers in law.The homo brother was the last to give up on MtG, Lord of the Rings set was his last straw but before him the most recent player gave up in Fate Reforged.
>>90294110Hearthstone is way better than that garbage. Why does every new card game feel the need to ruin deck construction with some sort of stupid commander mechanic? I don't want to play the game on rails.
>>90294110I suppose I shouldn't be surprised we have chink shills in a game that thrives on proxies, but I get real tired of seeing "dAe lE LeEgue iS dA bESt fEllOw gwAiLo????" on every board.
>>90295203>Counterspells are not literally removal, preventing a permanent from entering is literally different from destroying it after it entersAnd how is this different? The only difference is, you don't get the ETB trigger when something gets countered instead of destroyed. Which means you want to use/abuse ETB triggers, outing yourself as an endlessvalue retard. Literally everything wrong with the game today can be backtracked to "creatures do more now than just being beatsticks" and in turn, creatures had to become like this because of the planeswalkers, to keep up with their value generation. So in short, your opinion is shit, fuck planeswalkers and fuck the mythic rarity.
>be me>want to sell mtg cards on tcgplayer but never done it before>in a drunken stupor list handful of cards to sell>expect to sell cards over the next few days and what not>2 hours after I list cards get my first salenot that im looking a gift horse in the mouth but fuk let me sober up before putting that responsibility on me
If I had twenty rats out, would this end up doing twenty damage?That's the impression I'm getting, cut I'm also a retard.
>>90297633>20 damageI mean, if you play another one and replace the roles yes, otherwise you need a way to sac the auras/rats
>>90297633When your rats die it would
>>90297685>>90297686Ah. The way it was worded I was thinking it meant it attaches just to the rat it made, chaining several times. Like I said I am retard. Thanks
>he doesn't run at least one hate green card in whaetever deck and whatever format he is playing
>>90297242i've noticed that nearly every new card game in the last few years has some gay ass avatar/commander. Pisses me off.
>>90297743I like the system from WoWTCG and FAB where you pick a hero who affects what cards you can put into your deck and then has some kind of synergy you usually want to build around. Commander on the other hand is fucking retarded because it's a forced addition to the game
>>90297315maybe stop drinking retard juice
>>90297803>some kind of synergy you usually want to build aroundIs the cancer killing basically ever complex game that exists right now. Just let people make their own shit it will happen if you don't intentionally print one card epic rare value engines and destroy every synergistic deck that becomes good. >thing you pick at the start of the game and build aroundis the most game warping mechanic imaginable and will always result in pigeonholing. I'm not going to choose a faggot FaB OC to represent me in game I just want to play a fucking card game where I make a deck of cards and no other game has got that right because nobody can restrain themselves from inflicting their retarded character designs on other people.
What do I cut for my draft deck?
>>90298107tbf, all the cards in fab are attacks, items and events. If you didn't have the faggot oc, then there would be no dudes in the game.
>>90298124Sorry, I'm unfamiliar with how it works because I stopped looking at the game's website when I saw the portraits.
>>90296495Hasbro does, they own the damn franchise.
>>90292504Someone got the anowan kor cheese memes? travelling and don't have my folders, google/yandex not giving it up.
>>90298108Christ, what resolution is this? My eyes refuse to focus on it properly.
>>90298300nvm I'm a sleepy tard and forgot about 4plebs
>>90298484the funniest part is that there is no context for this, anowon just starts talking about kor titty cheese for no reason
>>90298500>for no reasonYou don't have intrusive thoughts of titty a dozen times a day or more?
>>90298509I work in retail so I try not to think at all for vast portions of the day
>>90298529Daydreaming is the best way to survive that shitty crap bud, did it for years.
how often do you guys play the game in person? >tfw wife only lets me play at the shop 2 times a month just kill me
>>90298682>wife letsSpank her and send her to her room! (kitchen)
>>90298682I play in person from Thursday to Sunday every week. Thursday is Pauper, Friday is Modern, Saturday and Sunday are just Commander days at the store.
>WotC decide retro art and retro card frames are not enough to milk the nostalgia-fags dry>They reintroduce white borders and old foiling styleHow would you feel about this?
>>90298867I feel like I order my cards from MPC ever since a norse god was made into a black woman.
>>90298682I played for the first time since SNC last sunday.
>>90298867I've bought a few retro border cards that are reprints of old cards and a few cards from the list. Generally, I will buy reprints that look like their original print. Especially if they keep collector number and set symbol. White border cards are unpopular, tho. White border print of cards tend to be cheaper than black border prints, so reintroducing that would be a bad idea.I don't buy reprints with new art, tho. Never ever.
>null rod shops is good againlets fucking go
>>902981083 lands + obedience
>>90298682Your wife is better than most, stop being a consoomer.
>>90292504Is "I" a valid word?
Questing druid rug delver feels stronger than even EI delver ever did. The velocity of threats you pump out is fucking insane, and questing druid goes out of control really quick in the deck because every spell you cast is non green. The fact that it is an instant and castable EOT already gives it upside over EI's mana restriction where you have to cast everything that turn. Seeing 1 less card doesnt matter when questing druid itself is castable as an actual threat as well. The deck also gives 0 fucks about bowmaster as well.
This new set is pretty bad isn't it?
>>90297073All of the original writers left
>>90300174Not as strong as lotr but the top end cards are just as crazy. Beseech, questing, cauldron, and beanstalk look to be the strongest cards from the set. I'm sure there
>>90300174it's quite alright
>>90298867>They reintroduce old foilingBut they're already doing that with some promos.As for white border, it'd probably look really bad with the new bottom border style.But I'm sure they'll do it in a SL or any of the other whalebait products
>>90300174not at allI just wish beseech and agatha's cauldron weren't so fucking expensive on mtgo
What's an affordable/enjoyable deck I can use to get started in Pioneer or a similar format? I want to start playing at my LGS and be remotely competitive but without spending a gorillion dollars or being a cancerous faggot.
>>90300174Goddric, Monstrous Rage, Scoundrel, and Witchstalker Frenzy are all great.t. redfag
>>90300555Cat oven is pretty cheap if you already own thoughtseizes and blood crypt. UW spirits is cheap if you own the lands, and mono white soldiers is the cheapest to just buy overall
>>90300555white humans or blue spiritsyou can start with the core of either deck and slowly upgrade them
>>90298682Once every month or 2 for EDH FNMs and above don't interest me anymore since the introduction of the shitty app and the killing of the DCI. I found contentment with IRL richii mahjong, although the scene has an absurd amount of trannies in the US.
>>90296556One of the two people on yewtube who consistently tries to make pauper tortex a thing has a really annoying accent and I just can't watch him no matter how good his content may be. I hate it.
>>90298682Used to play every monday and some fridays but my local shop closed down and the one I now go to only hosts pauper once a month so I'm down to playing once a month on friday. Then again the closed store only offered commander the one friday I do now is a lot more fun. I wish I could play pauper and maybe modern every friday but no luck :(
>>90300555lightpaws is fun to built and can be cheap depending on how tryhard you want to be with the lands. lightpaws, cryptomancer and gladecover are cheap, sram is cheap if you want him, the auras you play are cheap especially after the recent reprints. If you skip the mana confluence and instead play a bunch of painlands, maybe some fast lands and a crystal grotto you should be good to go.
After extensive playtesting I have concluded that although Soul Sisters is a playable deck, it is not a competitive one at all. Having 12-16 Soul Sisters and only one payoff creature in Celestial Unicorn kneecaps the potential of the deck big time. The best thing that could happen to this archetype would be for Ajani's Pridemate to get downshifted, which I don't see why not. They already downshifted Monastery Swiftspear which is a far more powerful creature. It's a fun deck to play with noobs and other casual decks but I'd never bring it to a tournament because it's so mediocre and disappointing.
>>90301105>>90300706>>90300628Would it be a bad idea to just buy a bunch of boosters for one set?
>>90300174and thank god for that
>>90300555Depends on how much you enjoy aggro, because that's gonna be your go-to for budget. There's some variation, though.>Mono-U Spirits (tempo-y) (can be upgraded to UW Spirits)>Mono-W Humans (white weenies go-wide)>Mono-Red (burn-y)>Gruul Aggro (there's a couple different spins, from bushwhacker to basically Mono-Red + Atarka's Command)>Boros Aggro (big focus on buffs/protection)Of those, Mono-Red or Mono-U Spirits are gonna be the cheapest.
>>90301505>buying sealed productnever ever do thisthe only good reason would be to draft with your friends and cube is better for that
>>90301505Yes. That is always the worst option you can take if you want specific cards
>>90301505Yes, that would be a bad idea. If you want to play constructed, always buy singles.
I am going to keep it real with you, Wizards of the Coast. This is not going to increase player retention.
>>90301567Is it going to be another case of needing to take pictures of your receipts in order to get some shitty reward on arena?
>>90301505>there could be anything in a 130€ box of trash>even the 80€ worth of cards I want to get idk you tell me
>>90301403Serra Ascendent is the only decent payoff for Soul Sisters and they'll never, ever downshifts that.
>>90301567>Fucking hot pockets and pancakesWizards has a perfect understanding of how fat their mtg fanbase is.
>>90301403have you tried adding a marauding blightpriest to drain while gaining? I'm interested in soul sisters as well but I'm not ready to spent the money only to have something unplayable in my shelf. My approach where 16 sisters, 4 blightpriests, 4 unicorns, 4 unearth and a deadly dispute / reckoners bargain package with artifact lands. 8 payoffs is not many but with ways to get them back and lots of draw it seems enough. I also adding of one mind and splashed some filtering as well as some inspiring overseers to stop glint hawks while gaining double, but they seemed too slow to me...
>>90301972I have not tried the variant that splashes Black, have been pretty much excursively playing mono White. The deck has a awkward landbase where I did 2 Radiant Fountain, 3 Orzhov Basilica, then 3 Secluded Steppe for utilities, and the other 12 are basic Plains. I'm actually intrigued to try out the W/B variant since the Blight Priest reminds me of Disciple of the Vault. What's your landbase look like?
>>90298867I don't really understand what happened to foiling. The foiling from around 2011 looks perfect while modern foiling not only is barely there and looks like mud, but also curls the card.
>>90300174I like what I've played of the draft, rigged matches on Arena notwithstanding.
>>90301567Boys, I'm thinking ISLOP tonight
>>90300174I dunno. Me and my son bought a box. We pulled two of these.He likes hydras so I guess worth?We got literally nothing else good.
>>90301567Why does IHOP get scorn but Waffle House gets praise when they're essentially the same thing?
>>903020814 scoured barrens 2 radiant fountain 4 evolving wilds1 island 4 plains 3 swamp I like the bouncelands in principle, especially with the fountains, but with no way to tutor for either I threw them out. I currently consider playing wu/ub dual lands from the dmu cycle and a playset lorien revealed
>>90296529Get cucked, incel
Which color combination best represents the typical adventuring party? Keep in mind, it has to include green.
>>90301505that is absolutely the worst possible thing you could do if your intention is making a cohesive pioneer deck
>>90301505Magic isn't the type of game where you can just buy packs and make a deck from them, play another game.
>>90302516W\R\G obviouslyBlue are nerds who want to be inside all day and black are the bad guys
>>90301567>Vivien is the face green walkerThis timeline is fucked, sorry bros even the one where Xenagos is stil alive and the green walker looks better
>>90299926Dude, I’ve Bowmastered so many RUG delver players it’s nuts. Guy has a flipped delver, plays Seek the Beast EOT, and reveals ponder lands. Draws, attacks, plays Druid into ponder, bowmasters with mana for daze, hit delver, kill delver off ponder draw. On my turn I fatal push the druid and force his force (I assume his ponder draw) and that’s was an easy game.More than a few like this, bowmasters is very strong against that deck. When their threats are so small and they telegraph draw cards off seek the beast, it’s very easy to control the game.
How is legacy as a format? One of the stores here plays pioneer and the other legacy, so I thought about checking both out, but basically having almost every single card available in the format sounds overwhelming.
>>90293794>nooooo you can't make them concede because..uhhhh you can't!it says I make ALL decisions, including conceding, including purchases, mortgages, jobs and lifestyle, until that turn ends at least
How come we never have arcane instant and sorceries anymore? It's always just instant and sorcery
>>90302718>How is legacy as a format?its good but I exclusively play it on mtgo so I can't really comment on paper >but basically having almost every single card available in the format sounds overwhelming.you get used to it very quickly, the secret is just finding an archtype/deck that you really enjoy and narrowing down the amount of things you have to learn in order to play your deck properlyyou don't have to consider every card available because there's a limited amount of actually good cards that people play in their 75
>>90302718>How is legacy as a format?Used goods getting regularly raped by F.I.R.E. cards
what is it with these faggots on untap, every single person on that website exclusively plays EDH
>>90303282You can play regular kitchen table magic with EDH decks though? Just shuffle the commander in, it becomes a normal highlander deck.
>>90303282my kitchen table list is 15 swamps, 20 dark rits, 15 nights whisper and 10 tendrilswhy the actual fuck would anyone play "kitchen table" with randoms on the internet
>>90301567For me, its chandra's strawberry hotcakes
>this is the card breaking legacywhat in the god damn?
>>90303501>ETB>Draw card>Do thing>Draw cardIt is broken anon, it is almost as good as 4cc Omnath at generating value (but it is cheaper).
I miss him bros...
>>90303501It's a card draw engine that's cheap, flexible (notice it says spell, so not even counterspells stop the effect), splashable, harder to remove and it replaces itself to boot.
>>90303501It's a damn solid card even without factoring in the unfair bullshit you can pull off with the evoke incarnations, cost reduction, etc. 2 mana permanent that draws a card is the floor, and that's already quite playable in several formats, but the ceiling is very high. If I were the designer, I probably would have maybe made it UG, the archetype for UG in the set seems to be 5 mana spells and in limited I find myself slamming this into every green deck I make.Is it banworthy? Nope, the bullshit cards that cheat mana value definitely are though, but WoTC won't ban their money cards.Up the Beanstalk is in this way an embodiment of the Judaic concept of the scapegoat: lay all the sins (broken cards) of Israel (WoTC's designers and developers) upon the second goat (random standard set uncommons) and cast it into the wilderness (ban it)
>>90303640>>90303646Im just surprised because green has had >when cast beeeg spell draw a cardthing for a while now but I guess making it any spell and not just creatures makes it fucking broken even though it needs 5 cost spells to trigger. Makes me wonder how broken this would be as a UG card with flash
What sleeves do I get for FNM? Is there anything cheaper than dragonshield etc while still being fine?
>>90303679Other formats have a million "mana cost 5" cards that in practice cost 1 or 0 mana to cast.
>>90303708Whatever cheapo shit you can get in your lgs, it quite literally does not matter unless you want to play in actual tournaments where opponents will ask for a deck check on you if they see any bent corners on your deck. Otherwise who the fuck cares if it splits a bit or the corners get bent.
>>90303708dragonshields suck ass
>>90303679The previous cards like it were also considerably more expensive. Only Season of Growth matches its CMC, and it still requires you to play at least one more card to draw a card.
>>90303679I honestly hate that green has become the colour that represents the most horrendous design problems of the game.
>>90303772Green isn't even particularly good in the format that the card was (supposedly) designed for.
>>90303742Everyone always seems to shill them, so I thought they would be some of the best.>>90303735Do people get mad about clear pennysleeves or should they be opaque at least? I use the tokens for doublesided cards, so they aren't in my deck.
>>90303772green has sucked ass for so long, same with simic. So when wotc saw commander exploding in popularity they jerked off those two until they became FIRE design soupyet despite this green still gets out FIREd by other colors
>>90303789I like both dragonshield and katanas, nobody will care about the sleeves you are using, but the hyper cheap clear sleeves feel like shit to shuffle.
I just can't take it anymore. The more i look at new cards/lore the more i can't believe real people are doing those abominations.I m start to think wotc is using AI to create cards/story.
>>90303813Simic was insane just a few years ago.>Uro>Oko>Growth Spiral>Wilderness Reclamation>Field of the Dead>Once Upon a Time>Veil of Summer>Hydroid KrasisHonestly, this game shouldn't have survived WAR and MH1 or any of the ridiculous bullshit that came afterward.
>>90304004WAR was genuinely the end for me, that set marks the actual death of this game and everything that came after is just a shambling zombie
>>90303501It's not "breaking" legacy, it's making value/control piles reconfigure themselves, it happens more often than you think since they can't help printing more abusive value cards Underworld Breach was breaking legacy
>>90304129Nicol Bolas won the war of the spark by breaking the fourth wall and taking over wotc. Now he causes suffering through executive decisions.
>>90302671Are they running gofy? I found the best thing about rug delver rn is gofy being able to essentially ignore bowmasters and seek being immune to bowmaster trigger. Granted I have gotten blown out by the sequence you listed before though, but I consider that more a misplay on my end when seeing 2 black open than anything else.
>>90303944Can you explain what your image is even supposed to convey?
>>90304379no, fuck you
>>90304379It's literally just autism about how rex should have been "native" to another plane instead of being phyrexian.
>>90304480Mirrodin was transformed into New Phyrexia, it makes sense that the Tyrannax Rex is a phyrexian, because all but a few struggling and endangered creatures are infected.
>>90304129This is the correct take. I can still find fun with the game. But quality dropped when mythic rare was introduced, then substantially again after Khans block, and War was it finally dying.
>>90304520>when mythic rare was introducedShards of alara, then? Wanna know the funniest part? "Magic was the first trading card game, but many others followed in its path. One of the changes most trading card games made was that they had more than three rarities. Realizing that the extra rarity, something rarer than one in every pack, could add some extra excitement and reinvigorate the collecting aspect of the game, Wizards opted to add the fourth rarity, starting with Shards of Alara.The addition of mythic rares was introduced in an article I wrote (called "The Year of Living Changerously") and I don't think I've ever written a column that has generated a louder response. Many players hated the idea of a new harder-to-collect rarity, even if it made other rarities easier to collect. The debate has shifted over the years from "should there be mythic rares?" to "which cards should be mythic rares?" but it is still a hot-button topic. (...) Some cards are designed for Limited. Those cards want to be lower in rarity. Some cards are designed for Constructed and cause problems in Limited. Those cards want to be higher in rarity. The cards that are crucial to make Limited work will push toward common, and the cards disruptive to Limited will push toward mythic rare. (...) It's important that players get excited by the mythic rares, and players tend to get less excited by cards they don't understand. (...) Mythic rare is occasionally where we put exciting cards that mess up Limited in a way we're unhappy with.(...) Planeswalkers always go at mythic rare. Most legendary creatures go in mythic rare. Mythic rare will occasionally do high-profile cycles (but the barrier is high) (...) " - MaRo
Yeah I just won with my rainbow deck yeah
>>90304682Exactly. I hate MaRo so much
>>90304727How can you hate this lovable mug? He just wants you to enjoy Fun, Inviting, Replayable, Exciting game design.
>>90304375Nah he didn’t have goyf. That’s a good option for rug, I like it. I think goyf specifically lines up well against bowmasters in the rug vs Grixis match-up.
>>90304472Your concession is accepted
>>90304129lsv's latest cube draft was casting a bunch of time warps and activating comet, stellar pup the confederacy died for this
>>90303778>>90303813It's not really a question of green's power level, but how its design exemplifies the worst aspects of the game right now.>Very little interaction, it's an egocentric colour that only cares about what its player is doing>Most of its effects are geared to telling other players to fuck off from interaction (can't be countered, targeting green monsters gives value instantly, ETB effects stapled onto creatures, cards you gain value from if they're discarded)>It somehow keeps receiving some of the most broken value/digging cards (Once upon a time, Collected Company, Up the Beanstalk)I get that green's whole schtick is good creatures, but FIRE design has taken that to its extreme conclusion.
>>90305113except the good creatures aren't green anymore they're blackbramble familiar doesn't really count as a creature, and the two good green adventure cards are effectively gold cards
>>90305113>>Very little interaction, it's an egocentric colour that only cares about what its player is doingIt has plenty of interaction between fight spells and Withstand Death-style effects. I'd say that giving Green interaction is an issue, green should be the color about dumb dinosaurs, it should be the color that asks for removal, with big monsters threatening imminent destruction should you not pack your doomblades.
>>90305160Indestructible no longer does it really. It's a shame how awful Thrun is right now considering how useful he has been in previous formats. Exile removal no longer incurs a premium. At least green has some good Hexproof effects, but with the best edict ever printed and two incredibly strong exile wraths Hexproof doesn't do anythin
>>90305180The best Withstand Death-style effect is in Blue.
>>90305160I find it funny how they removed regeneration because it was too confusing then they just basically redid the "destroy gets beat by regeneration gets beat by bury" triangle with a much larger and more confusing set of effects
>>90305241Indestructible is the only one that's a bit confusing, and only because it doesn't stop death from having 0 toughness. Phasing isn't even confusing in my opinion.
>>90304480This.>>90304493There are Tyrranaxes in other planes.It makes sense that a huge Tyrranax was transformed into a phyrexian, yes. But it doesn't makes sense for calling them "Rex" as in "tyrannosaurus rex" because that name could be used in another setting/world. I think he wouldn't be annoyed if it was called someshit like "Tyrranax Abomination" or other shit that would clearly covey the "unpure" nature of the beast. By the way that "not being plane specific" is what made C Sphynx being excluded from receiving the phyrexian subtype.
>>90305437>"not being plane specific"But anyway this rule was ignored by them. So whatever wotc is run by retards.
>>90304904I actually think gofy is really good in this meta. Currently running a 3/4 gofy druid split It's big enough that it threatens beseech storm real well, and races scam and griefs, dodges pyroblast, and is essentially immune to bowmaster
>>90305437>There are Tyrranaxes in other planes.Are there really though? The original Tyrranax incorporates metal and Mirrodin shit into its design. I know the lore says that every living thing on Mirrodin is extraplanar, but they clearly evolved to adapt to the plane, even humans have rock and metal spikes growing out of them. I assume the Tyrranax is a case of a dinosaur getting abducted and adapting into a different species of dinosaur. Is it ever stated in the books that Tyrranaxes are found outside of Mirrodin?
The omenpaths could allow them to make the Ravnica guilds official game terms for the color pairs.
>>90305901For being the set that immediately comes after the "now everyone can go between planes" change, it doesn't feel like they're doing much with the idea. Then again, what the fuck is the story for this set anyway? All I know is that the King and his Qwayn are dead and now Will and Rowan are fighting over how to pick up the pieces. Shouldn't the story articles and shit be out by now? How did it end up going down?
Is this like the first time in the last decade where they print a conventionally attractive woman on a card?
>>90306156That's a man.
>>90306179No you can even see the shape of her boobs
>>90306156Even nowadays there's usually one or two decent looking gals per set, depending on how high your standards are. Charming Scoundrel isn't even that good looking to be honest.
>>90305507Anon, every organic life in mirrodin was caught from other planes. This is in the lore. The mycosynth (like in mycosynth lattice) was a mutated fungus that would transform metal into organical and organical into metal, it didn''t reshape the creatures, the creatures would only start to have hands or other parts of their bodies transformed into "living metal". Everything in mirrodin that wasn't an artifact creature got captured in other worlds like a pokemon is captured by a pokebol and sent into a prison (and the og mirrodin had a prison theme btw).
>>90305901Please, no.But after seeing the last 5 years of magic... Yeah, maybe, i can see those faggots doing it, and i m glad i m out.
>>90298682LGS only has events worth going to 2 times a month
>>90306204nta, but you can say that they exist on other planes, but you have no evidence. at least at this point. And no, not every living being on mirrodin was brought in from another plane. Just the original beings. Karn even transported all the creatures memnarch back to their home plane at the end of the the mirrodin novel. Yet Tyrannax still exist on Mirrodin by the time of Scars. Anon is completely correct in saying that the specific species of Tyrannax could be a unique and exclusive evolution of a dinosaur from another plane, there is no lore that supports the opposite. Not to mention, the phyrexians, likely vorinclex, could be the one who named this specific subspecies of tyrannax, The Tyrannax Rex, fitting because Rex means king and Vorinclexes philosophy is rule through capability to survive.
>>90306280>. Not to mention, the phyrexians, likely vorinclex, could be the one who named this specific subspecies of tyrannax, The Tyrannax Rex, fitting because Rex means king and Vorinclexes philosophy is rule through capability to survive.I think the point is that by using a "common" name that could have been used for other more generic card the design team cucked themselves just as in the case of Consecrated Sphinx and Wurmcoil Engine. Both of the above have no conotations to phyrexia (though name or ability) but Consecrated Sphinx has an art depicting a phyrexian sphinx and Wurmcoil Engine after the errata now have a weird masterpiece because it implies that phyrexians were in kaladesh (if we look too much into it).The phyrexian subtype is just a mess and wotc can't keep it consistent.Now we have a situation of:We have a sphinx who should have itWe have a wurm that should not have itWe have a dinosaur that has it but in a eventual usage of the species they can't give a cool name because of it was used for a one time thing.(and btw wotc should use the invented species more often, leave to ixalan and muraganda the real dinosaurs and use invented ones in other planes)
>>90306539I understand what you're saying but your work is faulty.Tyrannax is/was never going to appear outside of mirrodin. So in the block where they know Mirrodin is going to effectively cease existing after it, they can name it whatever.>Consecrated Sphinx has an art depicting a phyrexian sphinxAnd it had art depicting it as non-phyrexian, the amonkhet masterpiece, long before they made phyrexian a type.>now have a weird masterpiece because it implies that phyrexians were in kaladesh (if we look too much into it).It really doesn't need to imply the phyrexians were there, it could imply a number of plausible things, like a planeswalker giving the schematic to a kaladeshian, kaladesh, being so close to the Blind Eternities, means that an artificer could be inspired by visions of another world (Yotian soldier bit), etc. Honestly the Mox opal is a bigger lore breach.But that's the only argument that has any teeth.> leave to ixalan and muraganda the real dinosaurs and use invented ones in other planesThe Imperiosaur species is a dinosaur from muraganda that has already received two cards
>>90306194Those are clearly oranges retard.
>>90305113Tbh that's because every other color caught up with green in creature quality. Having on curve stats used to be rare outside of green and smaller white creatures. I still remember when non-green colors got their first vanilla bears as a noticeable creep. If black can have a 4/5 for 4 with no drawbacks, then green needs to catch up, and they can only do so much stat inflation. So green needs to draw cards gain life ramp and blow up the opponent's stuff to creep itself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HTPI3l_ovoSecret Lairs are selling less than 5000 copies now lol.
>>90303708KMC hyper mat are the best.
>>90303830Dragon Shield feel like shit to shuffle.
>>90303789Not really, i see a few people use them and no one cares. I personally don't like them myself because they are awkward to shuffle.>>90306882Only when they are new, after you break them in they feel like any other sleeves.
>>90306905Wrong. Dragon Shield are very bad to shuffle compared to good sleeves. The only reason why they have a reputation for being good is because they are durable. I don't really care about that since I double sleeve and take good care about my decks anyway.
>>90306925>Dragon Shield are very bad to shuffle compared to good sleevesDunno, Dragon Shield mattes have had the best shuffle feel out of all the sleeves I have used
>>90306978KMC hyper mat and Katana are easily superior, among those I've tried. Actually even 20 year old basic Ultra Pro are superior. Every single sleeve I tried is superior when it comes to shuffle feel.DS stick together and require hard pushing.
>>90307005>DS stick together and require hard pushing.Not my experience with them, are you talking about the normal dragonshields or the matte ones?
What's the point of double sleeving?
>>90307014Matte. Same experience I've had with my friend's ones.They're just thick pieces of plastic meant to protect and they're good at that, forget about comfort.
>>90307056If you sleeve only once dust and particles and liquid get inside the top and come in contact with the card, if you use perfect sleeves this won't happen.Double sleeving with perfect sleeves and regular sleeves is the standard.
>>90307056to make your counterfeits more believable
>>90307056I triple sleeve to protect both the outside and inside of my limited run anime sleeves
>>90307056Protects the cards more and makes the cards easier to shuffle
>>90307056i double sleeve because otherwise my foild and other expensive water damaged cards i bought for a bargain would not be tournament legal
>>90307108I double sleeve so that people don't notice they're fakes
>>90307130>>90307108I triple sleeve because some people in my LGS have tiny, girly, EMASCULATED modern playing hands.
>>90306871Still makes profit, because they cut out the middle man (distributors), release multiple lairs at once, and print to demand.
>>90307204They are destroying their reprint equity for pennies.
>>90300282wasn't questing beast from previous set?
>>90307448ah, ok - forgot that guythanks
>>90306871He even tells you that he's making this shit up, dumbass.
>>90307246>They are destroying their reprint equityIf nobody is buying them, there's very few extra copies entering the marketing, so reprint equity isn't really being touched.
>>90302240Ihop needs to start chair fighting
>>90307679>"THEY'RE TANKING REPRINT EQUITY BECAUSE THE MEME MAN SAID SO!!!">"But if nobody is buying them, no more copies are entering the market. That's just common sense supply and demand.">"SHUT UP BAKA!!!"
>>90307697It's 5000 copies entering the market in the hands of the people that want those cards... meaning those cards won't be a selling point of sealed product anymore.Cope more.
>>90307726>meaning those cards won't be a selling point of sealed product anymoreThe highly novel printing of these cards makes them their own market separate from normal singles.
>>90307812You sound like a corporate suit trying to not get fired after he's asked why all their cards are worth shit now and they lost all reprint equity. That's how desperate you sound.
>>90307873Demonstrate how the product in my image has negatively affected the reprint equity of the cards in said product. For reference, it's the current Secret Lair as per:https://secretlair.wizards.com/ukIf I was a corporate suit at Hasbro I wouldn't have allowed these things to exist in the first place. The longterm damage to the brand is now irreparable, and the game is in its Beanie Baby bubble phase.
>>90307934>picks a product with newly printed, non legal cards that have no reprint equity prior to the SL printing by definitionCannot get any more disingenous than this kek.
>>90307949>Rudy talks about how recent SLs don't sell anymore>Literally go straight to the SL website and pull the latest one as an example>"TH-THAT ONE D-DOESN'T COUNT, B-BAKA!!1!"
This is your reprint equity.
>>90308002Look up the prices Scalding Tarn and Misty Rainforest. If these get another reprint like MH2 they will lose all reprint equity.>>90307972Yep, you're disingenous.Rudy literally said that a few are exluded from the low sales discourse.Sales and reprint equity are also two different things.
>Rakdos rats.I didn't think anything would be less fun than Orzhov toxic, but they pulled it off.
>>90308038>a few are exluded from the low sales discourseSo all discussion regarding low sales is pointless because it's just a simple case of individual products not containing things people want.And just so we're clear Secret Lairs ARE WotC attempting to cash in their reprint equity. Are you attempting to argue that SLs are tanking singles prices disproportionately more than if the cards were reprinted in a regular set?1) How can you possibly know that?2) If you're an "investor", go drink bleach
>>90308038>Look up the prices Scalding Tarn and Misty Rainforest.All of the MH2 fetch reprints are still worth more than one pack of MH2.
>>90308066And now you are twisting words... Nothing is too low for you, apparently.You didn't even watch the video, I'm not even bothering arguing with you anymore.
>>90308046Ikoria Cycling is the worst draft archetype and it's (hopefully) never going to be topped. Just grab any card with cycling in its textbox and win the game.
>>90308046needs booba edit
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>>90307056it protects my white border duals better
>>90307056To minimize air exposure for foils.humid weather = bad
>>90306716>Tyrannax is/was never going to appear outside of mirrodin.Not true, all mirrodin creatures were always a case similar to the "time shifted" from future sight. They appeared there first (most cases) and would only return in other sets in the future (and not aways like they were seen in mirrodin). For exemple Loxodons and Veldaken came right after (2 years) from mirrodin, leonins (being called leonins) just came in Alara. Green Skin elves took a while to being printed (not counting mutated ones from onslaught), and soo on. >the amonkhet masterpieceThink it was a secret lair. >But that's the only argument that has any teeth.Nah it is hard to defend the phyrexian subtype implementation. The exemple of the Wurmcoil being made into a phyrexian isn't even the most retarded one. For exemple Ramos, Dragon Engine is literally a Dragon Engine made in Phyrexia used by mishra in the brother's war, with a planeswalking devise to go back to phyrexia...But his card didn't receive the phyrexian typeline.It is just arbitrary, in his case maybe because he was good, and his typeline would get massive for future printings, they decided to not give the subtype.
>>90309104phyrexian subtype should only be on the blood-based phyrexians and not on machines or OG operation-based phyrexians.
>>90308046What don't you like about it? I'm not partial to humans-care-about-rat token generators but Twisted Sewer-Witch and Song of Totentanz are fun finishers as far as tribal goes.
>>90309155>should only be on the blood-based phyrexians and not on machines or OG operation-based phyrexiansI would go beyond and say "ones that doesn't predominantly looks like another creature type"
>>90309439shittest art I've ever seen
Hi, my name is anon, and I am addicted to buying alpha lands.
>>90309996nice autism, anon!
>>90309996top shelf proxies!
>>90309104>Not true, all mirrodin creatures were always a case similar to the "time shifted"Except you literally cant prove that and that's not the case.And the consecrated sphinx was in amonkhet, not phyrexian.Also there were dragon engines made by Mishra without phyrexian influence
>>90310079why would you proxy basic lands?
>>90309996Those look fake
>>90310168because they are rather expensive
>>90310149>Except you literally cant prove that and that's not the case.Neither can you prove that creatures from og mirrodin will not appear in a non mirrodin form in other planes.>Also there were dragon engines made by Mishra without phyrexian influenceRamos, dragon engine is literally stated to be phyrexian, with his home plane being original phyrexia.It is true that there were some copies of the dragon engines but the original ones (like ramos) were phyrexians.
>>90310079>>90310178I bought from one of the most large/reputable sellers in my region. I hope they aren't fake, or I'm swinging from a tree.
>>90310552NO, I LIEDThey look real. They are definitely real.
>>90310552I just can't believe that you H O P E they aren't fake
>>90308803Canon, 10/10 ship
>>90308418I'd give my life to let her sit on my face, nglSaid this, I miss the times when this card was OP
>>90308213I need new ones
Have you anons taken the draft pill?
>>90309996Very nice.Don't listen to the retards that say they are fake.>>90310079>>90310178The fox and the grapes.
>>90311356>GisaI have no intentions of fixing her and honestly hope I make her worse.
>>90310332>Neither can you prove that creatures from og mirrodin will not appear in a non mirrodin form in other planes.Myr, Tyrannaxes, glint hawks Also read the fucking lore. Ramos literally defected from Phyrexia and wouldnt be phyrexianTake the L and stop shitting up the chat
>>90312195>read the fucking loresorry anon, I don't read bullshit
>>90312616yet here you are, ironic isn't?
>>90312724I like to play the game, not to read the awful and overly inconsistent/retconned lore behind it
>opponent spell pierces me even though I have 2 mana>don't even notice it and immediatly spell pierce it
>>90313414Correct play if you have another spell pierce in hand, he wanted you to tap out so he can resolve something else.
>>90313414>>90313428Correct play if you need to fill your graveyard with cards for big blue nigger payoffs.
>placing an unsleeved real dual next to a visible semen stain
>>90313531>she/theyliterally what and how
>>90313414Paying isn't always correct. I've Spell Pierced a Summoner's Pact when the Amulet player had 6 mana. His choices were either let his spell get countered, or wait another 2 turns to play his Titan.
>>90313414Correct if you enjoy casting spell pierce
Make yourselves useful and help me build the shell. Inb4 ginger brute and evolved sleeper
>>90314236Soul CauldronWalking BallistaSteel OverseerHangarback WalkerI dunno. Scavenging Ooze?
>>90314299I play standard btw. Not sure if that matters
>>90302240i thought waffle house was mostly just memed
>>90312195>MyrCreations of Memnarch, artificial creatures... Those are the ones that nobody should bet on appearing again (but they probably will)>TyrannaxesThey can appear>glint hawksJust normal hawks (cause they were hawks with metal claw...)I will even add another that could appear in other planes: Fangren Another one: Vorrac>Also read the fucking lore. Ramos literally defected from Phyrexia and wouldnt be phyrexianRamos is literally a phyrexian dragon engine who got reprogrammed by urza into saving humans>and wouldnt be phyrexianThat doesn't remove it from being a phyrexian. There have been phyrexians who moved against phyrexia, and even new phyrexians can be disloyal to them. (Geth for new phyrexian) Xantcha for exemple hated being a phyrexian but she couldn't change what she was. Also if it was so easy to cease to be Phyrexian then Belbe would have done so...I ask you: Read the fucking lore, retard. (if you did you would have known that all the living organical species in mirrodin came from other planes, but whatever)
>>90301567I'm more offended by the fact that the themed choices are so fucking lazy. Anyone remember the Hobbit menu at Dennys? That was kino.
>Darksteel>Clearly shows BLIGHTSTEEL colosus in the background>Phyrexian golems >In lore the corrupted (by the phyrexians) darksteel is called blightsteelI just can't take it.Fuck the "vorthos" shillsThis shit is wrong and i can't pretend it isn't AAAHhhhhhh!
>>90314236>>90314312You go infinite with omen hawker, saryth, and any 2 creatures. Now you have infinite blue mana to use in abilities, and you can use that mana to untap your creatures. If you have a less restrictive mana generating ability you can make infinite mana to use for anything. Or you can get infinite power with misery's shadow. Go wild.
>>90314607Not only do I not understand why you would still have any expectations for the lore, I especially don't understand why you would not have expectations for the lore in a card that says "where X is the number of opponents you have"
>>90305473Yo Bubbles, I was thinking during my boring quarterly spendings call, have you consider Klothys in Rug in this meta? I feel like Prismatic Ending is not being played as often as it was previously. Seems to me like Klothys is likely to actually stick for once and it's an extremely powerful effective if it sticks. Just a consideration.
>>90314671That only means that magic has literally nobody taking care of consistency within a set.The design department is headless (brainless) they got into a point that even custom cards creators have more respect for the game and are more consistent at creating cards.It is just sad.
>>90314699It's not even "within a set", pretty sure that these commander and alchemy cards were designed in a different timeframe from the main set. This does make me wonder -who- designs these cards. Is it even someone at wotc? Are they AI generated?
>>90314699oh yeah oil, another mechanic they did absolutely nothing with
Are magic cards still woke? I would like to play the game again if so. Thanks