>Sisters of Chaos>yay or nay?I say yay
>>88989400They look a bit too cute I think, they ought to look scarier and uglier.
>>88989400naythey're always cringey poorly written fanfics made by coomers who don't actually know about the settingprobably the closest thing to magical realm shit in the 40k community
>>88989448>made by coomers who don't actually know about the settingThis has to be bait. If not, I think female space marines are a terrible idea, but I hope that Games Wokeshop forces them in in all of their BIPOC glory just to watch you fucking squirm.
>>88989400No because chaos space marines proved that chaos version of imperial faction is the gayest shit on earth.
>>88989400Canonically possible iirc, though it's only happened once or twice which is a shame cuz Valkia was a beast in old warhammer fantasy and I'd love for khorne to have something like that in 40k, the new lord invocatus could go hard with a squad of demonic valkyries at his side, could work for slaanesh too as obvious succubi allegories, not sure how nurgle/tzeentch ones would work though in lore, or how any of them would play on the tabletop
>>88989448>coomerbaitactually kinda insane GW didn't capitalize on this yet when you think about it for a bit
>>88989400Nay, I'd prefer expanded cultists and Traitor Guard ladies instead
>>88989649Those are literally my exes, I can even name them and tell you about them
>>88989400Yay, but do it right, Khorne SoBs should be covered in filth and gore, not looking looking all spic and span (like GW dispaly painters seems to prefer).
>>88989605They are selling toys to kiddies. If they did coombait, they would get put on a register.
Female space marines have been in the game since the beginning. Fuck haters.
>>88989649disgusting artwork, but why not both? "X faction but Chaos" is one of the best faction generators in 40k
>>88989400Yay, but not Slaanesh. Nurgle would be perfect, Khorne is also good, Tzeentch is passable, Slaanesh is nay.
>>88989755>200-600USD plastic sprues that have to be built and painted into tanks>For kidsNo kid is affording, or having parents buy, warhammer. No kid is also taking the time to build and paint in world of youtube, instagram, and tiktok. It's a hobby for manchildren like myself.
>>88989586>>88989740Basically, this. I honestly only really like the idea if they're Khornates, and absolutely loathsome to look at, drenched in blood and viscera. Less valkyries, more maenads mixed with furies.
>>88989758they're redundant with SoB around. Wish there were some Sisters of Chaos Coven creation tables around
>>88989740>>88989830>beautiful women scare themit's just a game anon
>>88989878>I can't readoof
Yay. But the Church surpressess all information about fallen Orders.
>>88989793>IrisGirl I dated in law school, Korean-American overachiever who broke up with me because I drank too much. >SamWhile I was working on my bachelor's I dated her for a few months. She was into metal and indie rock and had shitty hair (not that exact style but something almost as shitty). She was from Kentucky and talked about how much of a shithole the place was a lot. I forgot why we broke up>MariaFat lazy psych major I dated during my freshman year. I know she browsed 4chan because she always had some red board open, but I don't know which one it was. I broke up with her because her apartment was fucking disgusting and I figured she'd just stay like that for the rest of her life.>Katrina (she was named before the hurricane) Black athlete, I dated in High School. She played soccer and always talked about football and wrestling. She also fought a lot of other girls. I think we just drifted apart after we graduated, actually kinda cool I miss her.
>>88989448You sound new.
>>88989400Feminists wouldn't like them.Women can't be evil.
>>88989400Sisters don't tend to fall in cannon. But there's no reason successful chaos cults wouldn't emulate them.
>>88989802Speak for yourself, I got into Warhammer when I was 13
>>88989989Unless you're 13-16 right now my point stands. Warhammer was completely different beast back then, and so was the general environment when it comes hobbies and entertainment.
>>88989802Back in the ye olden days, I was given a 50€ weekly allowance (since I took care of old people in my family a lot) and I was able to build a 3000 point Craftworld army AND a small high elf WHFB army.
>>88990002They still make big money on selling kits to new people many of them children, your post is just full of you projecting your own experience onto the hobby as a whole. When I was a kid I remember the naked daemonettes with breasts exposed were a bit scandalous even.
>>88989519>I think female space marines are a terrible idea, but I hope that Games Wokeshop forces them in in all of their BIPOC glory just to watch you fucking squirm.Yeah, female space marines were actually canon in 1st edition.
>>88989400I like the death guard and world eaters ones. DG paintjob could have been better though. The emps children and thousand sons ones don't really make any sense and they look like shit too.
>>88990038Never were canon, thats from a fan magazine.
>>88989905Damn you have shit tastes.
>>88989400I don't think so.SoB are characterized by being so devoted to Big E they make even the most loyal Astartes look secular.Them of all people falling kind of defeats the purpose, I feel like if a SoB falls she just goes back to being a regular person.
>>88989649if it wasn't for the smell i would do the nurgle one so fucking hard
>>88990068oh and the STDs, the STDs would also be a problem
chaos custodes when
>>88989905This makes your graduation what now, some ascension to being a champion of chaos undivided?
>>88990075I'd field them as Obliterators or Chaos Spawn. Getting that Iron Warrior itch again.
>>88990111Perhaps. After I pass my bar exam I expect to sow suffering and chaos on Terra herself so it's probably good I went down this path.
>>88989400You can tell these sisters fell to Chaos because they look too feminine.
>>88990017>ye olden days>weekly allowance>50€>2600€ gross per annummy dude I saved up for half a year to buy a box of CSM in 2002 and it only came with 8 marines, command sprue, and mutation spruegtfo with "look after a few old people" did you wipe their asses or just get meals and keep them company?I would have to write invoices in excel for the housework and chores I did and then print them out and have my stepfather haggle with me over how much I was charging
>>88990249I did wipe their ass, hence why I was paid so much
>>88990038Nobody gives a shit about first edition.
>>88990236Have you seen your average IRL nun?
>>88990318And all that training handling shit prepared you for a lifetime of GW products
>>88989400Nay. It's a lame concept that undercuts the uniqueness of the sisters' ideological and religious dogma and makes them into diet space marines.
>things should not exist because I can't stop thinking about men fapping to itWhat even is this argument?
>>88990404They already were just diet space marines you muppet.
>>88990002I got into WH40K when I was in middle school, Dawn of War games hooked me and I bought starter set with ork copters and postal box dred. I already had some experience with painting minis, because when I was 10, maybe 11 there were De'Agostini magazines with LotR minis, citadel paints and some very basic introductory articles to painting and playing. When I picked up WH40k I had (and still have to this day) more interest in painting cool plastic dudes than wargaming, so I didn't have a need of buying 2-3k points of army and investing further as meta shifted, I was just buying a box of marines or other minis I fancied and painted them and customized them to my liking, I didn't care much about the rules or creating a coherent unit out of them.However, "there can't be coomer bait cuz they're selling to kids" is invalid, there's a nurgle knight mini with anus prolapsed so hard it's almost dragged behind him, there's ton of gross and NSFW stuff that make a titty here and there non-relevant in comparison. That being said, I'm glad there's no coomer baiting, it's subhuman.
>>88990468Forgot to add, I'm not the anon you replied to.
>>88990488Well yeah, kinda obvious since the anon already gave me his backstory. I wonder how many kids are interested in model kits these days, especially with shrinking attention spans.
>>88989400I think chaos sisters is good because it dethrones the weird unbreakable schtick that they have for no reason.>Oh but they're all about faithOkay but even the most faithful guardsmen and space marines break, and scions go to the same school and can still break too, why wouldn't sisters?
>>88990398extremely underrated post
>>88990508Maybe it has something to do with chastity? And them being unspoiled virgins? SoBs are truly pure imo.>>88989833Sounds cool, I would give it a go. You could probably cobble a basic outline for it from the standard SoB Order and CSM Warband tables and further fluff it out from there.
>>88990586Sisters of Battle have never been chaste what is this stupidity? Their "purity" is in pure hatred for that the emperor wants them to hate.
>>88990586>chastityalot of space marines are chaste and I don't see why scions/stormtroops would be anything but chastemaybe guardsmenbut honestly, considering the state of the imperium, I don't even buy they'd have chastity as a virtue, they probably want you pumping out as many kids as possible for the war effort
Every Sisters of Chaos I've seen have been nothing but Slaanesh coomer bait.
>>88990649The only chaos sister in canon is Slaaneshi.
Only faction wich should never hav large scale falling to Chaos is the Tau for the Greater Good forbids it.
>>88989400>I say yaySisters of Khorne are canon now.
>>88990068>>88990073Imagine the khornate tomboy shattering your pelvis as she aggressively hatefucks you and loudly screams demanding you impregnate her.
You'd think that there might be women in the Imperium who are aware of Spess Muhrines and feel jealousy that could get exploited by Chaos to twist them into some sort of freaks.But that wouldn't really satisfy the coomers nor the feministas.
>>88990879>imagine a khornate doing anything but doing acts of violenceGod said to her blood and skulls, not breed my gurl. Okay, let the galaxy burn.
>>88990038>literal first letters on page are "GDW"idiot
>>88989400Absolutely nay, if only because they always end up being nothing more than strippers in vaguely 40k-themed bikini.
>>88989519>bad thing is bad>but I hope it happens anyway because I'm a pathetic spiteful faggot who likes seeing other people unhappyWhy can't people like you just jump off a bridge?
>>88991080anon, how is this bad>>88990075when you neck yourself you dumb tripfag
>>88990386Yeah.Anyway, they aren't real nuns anymore than space marines are monks.
>>88990616proofs you unrepentant coomer?
>>88991183The Cain books make it clear that Sisters are not celibate and there are a number of sisters characters that are in sexual relationships. In Cain's Last Stand I believe that the Sisters sergeant was sleeping with the bursar of the school they all worked at.
>>88991244>Cain booksfuck off pls
>>88991290You asked for a source, I gave you one. Fuck off.
>>88991244Not canon. The codexes say that they live lives of self denial.
>>88990038Third party content from Games Designer's Workshop(GWD), thoughbeit.
>>88990038It's amazing that people still think that this is a real GW publication when it's really one of the earliest homebrew female space marine chapters ever made. Arguably the first shown to the world, but not canon nor by GW.Does anybody know what issue number this is?
>>88991153Now show her face when you tell her you couldn't be bothered doing your homework.>>88991133>How is it bad?NTA, but it's ALL they ever are. The vast array of chaos and all its possibilities, which the fanbase is fully capable of exploring in some surprisingly creative manner, unless it's a Sister. To be fair the loyal ones are quite one note anyway.
>>88989448>>88989586>>88989955Canon Chos Sister got released today:
>>88989400naychaos forces shouldn't be as neatly categorized as the imperium: corrupted marines or sisters, technobarbarians and cultists, traitors and mutants, they should all blend once inside the chaos warband.
>>88991861I think it makes sense for chaos groups to section themselves depending on circumstances.I could easily see traitor guard, astartes, sisters, even barbarians all deciding that they work best alongside those that they know, and stand the best shot of bringing glory to themselves or their dark god of choice, potentially the immaterium as a whole, by working in the military organization they were already in.
>>88989649Rare case of a Slaaneshi girl actually being hot
>>88989400No. They are stupid and edgy, and only exist to subvert the cool SoB trope of being generally incorruptible except for rare cases.
>>88992676Anon, it's only "rare" due to Ecclesiarchy mercilessly hunting them down and erasing any traces of their existence from reality and histories. For all we know, there might have been multiple corrupted lesser orders and countless fallen sisters.
>>88992712>For all we knowSo your headcanon, faggot? Fuck off.
>>88992716nah there's a canon example of this happening in 'Heart and Soul' in the SoB omnibus by James Swallow. the Ecclesiarchy even gets another Sister to adopt the fallen Sister's identity so the 'incorruptible' myth isn't shattered. Chaos Sisters are def a thing in 40k lore
>>88991124I can't explain it, but there's a 'type' that injects themselves into hobbies they have no interest in, then seethes at the people in the hobby for being "backwards nerd chuds" and wishes that their hobby would get fucked up/ruined. It's really weird.
>>88990404>Half of all space marines chapters fall to chaos>SOB who are diet space marines aren't allowed to fall unless its only 1 or 2Anons Sisters of Battle fall to chaos as often if not more so than space marines
>>88992728>Chaos Sisters are def a thing in 40k loreExtremely rare.
>>88992865depends on the writersome GW writers see them as just run-of-the-mill religious fanatics that can be corrupted just as easily as the next person with sufficient exposure to the warpothers see them as the setting's de facto clerics, who get magical buffs on a regular basis
>>88989400nayhowever there's nothing to stop female chaos worshippers from taking and using the armour of dead SoB either
>>88991473We're not here to provide you fetish material. Go find your own angry nuns.
>>88990972If you make more people you can have those people you made take more skulls and shed more blood in the name of the blood God. Khorne isn't dumb he knows hate fucking is based, and if he has more people he has more bloodshed, it's simple skullenomics
The idea of anyone outside of Grey Knights and Custodes being totally immune to chaos is stupid to meBut I also have no interest in actually seeing chaos sister models
>>88994874>The idea of anyone outside of Grey Knights and Custodes being totally immune to chaos is stupid to meOh and tack on blanks to that as well, obviously
>>88989400Yay, although the 40k fan base is allergic to fun so expect a lot of pushback
>>88993647Who said anything about fetish? Get your mind out of the gutter and your hands out your pants. Clearly talking about the distortion of a face when angry as here >>88990236
>>88989400While I like the idea of them, I agree with >>88990586 and >>88992676 that the sisters should remain near to utterly pure, because that is one of their core theme the same way space never shall new fear. Before >>88992728 there are like three instances of it happening, Miriel Sabathiel, who might just have been a bad egg from a start and is from a card game, the Daemonifuge which is really old (but kino) and the example in one of the Cain Books doesn't count because its a psyker controlling them, not chaos.Which is way I think the way to do Chaos Sisters is for them just not to be sisters. The way I did it for a Dark Heresy Campaign of Main was like >>88993626 would do, with them beeing a minor khornate warband of larger cult that all about Hybris and destroying the Enemies Honor to grow there own, so they were basicly Larpers in fake armor who tried to attack a hospitaler monastery to take over their identity, to spread the myth of chaos sisters.So if you do them, I think the way is just to have them their own thing >>88991861, is right here. Maybe there is a female warband doing the Blood Valkyrie thing, serving a larger warlord. My idea of larpers would work just as well for a tzeentch warband, maybe even better. For Nurgle just make it a coven of disease creating witches, Reverse Hospitaler Style. Slaanesh might also be all about the trickery and the iconoclasm of imperial symbos that way - or just fucking field those weird bitches Fabius Bile has been cocking up in his books.
>>88989400I don't mind it, but I don't think it's necessary to give them models. How many Chaos-aligned sisters of battle can there really be in the galaxy? Of course, they made the adeptus janitorium in a full fledged army, so I guess nothing's off the table.>>88989423Yeah, like the actual SoB models.
>>88992788Not true. Sisters can fall, but they're very rare.Between the heavy indoctrination and their human lifespans, they never become like CSM warbands.
>>88994874Grey knights weren't even always immune to Chaos (I'm not sure if they even are now, or if that's just fan wank - everyone seems to be immune to Chaos these days), they just took every possible precaution against it, and none of them had fallen... yet.Of course, these days, the very concept of grey knights is a fucking joke. Oh, your chapter master keeps a daemon sword on his person at all times because he's the only one strong enough to resist it and he can't risk it being left for anyone else to find? Just give it to any random Tau and he can use it as a toilet plunger or a backscratcher with no risk.
Ohnononono Chaos sisters we've got too cocky
>>88992716>Chaos Sis makes him seethedon't google Etelka Arkanto
>>88990508Because their entire schtick is being an army of Joan of Arcs, and they're a death cult that sees dying in service to the emporor as like the peak method of going out. Most of them view suffering through pain as a test of faith. Like what is there to break there? This is the faction with willing unarmored close combat death squads
>>88990586Also nah chastity doesn't keep humanity alive, they started as Vandire's personal fucknun bodyguards. Pretty sure any of their offspring just get sent to the schola progenium tho
>>88989400Only if we get Xenos sisters too. >>88989930Are you implying that chaos is evil?
>>88989400Far left looks like she added some Eldar bits to her gear, which I suppose makes her Slaaneshi? Definitely the least inspired of the four sisters shown
>>88995702>>88995702>build nid/GSC themed sisters>convert a genestealer patriarch and play it as morvenn vahl>convert mutants and play them as arco flagellants and repentia>maybe convert counts as paragon warsuits or penitent engine nid monstersThere you go, xenosisters.
>>88995129>the Daemonifuge which is really old (but kino)The Daemonifuge is ANTI-Chaos...
'‘Sabathiel was only the first. She built her own war band out of pious Sisters she enslaved herself from Order of the Argent Shroud, much to their shame… And then there were the others, quietly killed and cut out of history… Or replaced. Like me.''
>>88991861Nah. Thing is that they still have different abilities. Maybe you can take any combo in an army, but traitor guardsmen should be more skilled and better equipped than cultists, fallen sisters whether actual SoB or just a parody created to mock the imperium might be more like priestesses extremely fanatical but with varying levels of equipment and horrible discipline.
>>88989400I don’t like the Khorne one but the others are pretty slick conversions.
>>88996408>conversionsit's photoshop, anon
>>88996420Show me the pixels
>>88990879nope, angry sex is not my thing
>>88989586There have been lots of Sisters getting corrupted in stories now and with the Murder-Curse loads of them have become Khornate. Only Grey Knight special boys are allowed to be incorruptible.
They basically worked in a little bit to each of the Orders of SoBs in 8th/9th ed if you wanted to go there. Each of them has a virtue or theme that if taken to extremes could work for a Chaos God:>Bloody Rose - Khorne>Valorous Heart - Nurgle >Martyred Lady or Sacred Rose - Slaanesh>Ebon Chalice - Tzeentch
Was there not some possible conspiracy/deep lore theory that Saint Mina was a reformed Khornate cultist who became one of the Brides of the Emperor? She was supposed to have had a dark past, “her” Order wasn’t founded until thousands of years after her death and she was targeted and assassinated by Khornate cultists in some temple.
>>88989758>>88989833Female spacemarines are still there. They just lose all feminine features as their bodies are surgically and genetically reformed into supersoldiers.
>>88996108Such a lame twist. It’s just like the Tau fake Ethereal thing. Shitting on the defining aspect of a faction for no good reason.
>>88989400Shit concept, shittier execution. Gayossfags and their obsession for more "Imperium but with spikes" toys just goes to show how little of an actual identity their irrelevant faction has.
>>88989400Yay. Caonically almost every Imperial army can be corrupted by Chaos. There's no reason Chaos should be 100% Space Marine
>>88989605Are you a fucking retard oh wait you're a chaos SoBfag of course you are? They actively desexualized SoBs when they rereleased them.
>>88989740>like GW dispaly painters seems to preferYou do realize the painters have to actually show off the model they're painting, right? They can't just slop on a bunch of gore texture paste and red contrast paint and call it a day like your blanchitsu types.
>>88995281iirc in the 5th ed grey knights codex there's a short bit about a tzeentch keikaku where he sets up an entire invasion so that the knights would have to merk all the refugees and one of them started to doubt the order
>>88996713Show the rulebooks
>>88990386>Have you seen your average IRL nun?>citing IRL for 40KThen I guess we can have female marines now too?
Remember Cultist chan?
>>88989400Yay, they nees more attention and depth and literally no one is incorruptible in 40k. Thwre was a book recently where even custodes fell under horus's chaotic influence and attacked the emporer, but a buncha space nuns would be immune? Suuuurrrreeeee....
>>88989758>>88996713Stop bringing your political shit into my hobby tranny.
Personally, I really dislike Chaos sisters precisely because it has been done so much. Here are some examples I can remember but I'm sure there were others.Daemonifuge opens with a Chaos tainted sister (not Ephrael Stern). It also has a convent of Sororitas (non-battle sisters) get Slaanesh'd.Heart & Soul has an explanation for the myth that only Miriael Sabathiel had fallen - they either get quietly killed, or if they are well-known they are replaced with someone surgically altered to look like them. It also says Miriael (Order Of Our Martyred Lady) went on to create her own warband of fallen sisters from the Order of the Argent Shroud...In the Caiphas Cain books a whole Order gets mind-controlled into fighting for Chaos. Arks of Omen has the Murder-Curse do the same thing.
>>88996868Is this how a first painting of a mini is supposed to look like
>>88989400Sure but I don’t feel like kitbashing an entire army that has no rules. >>88989758No females allowed, you know the rules.
>>88989649This, the people who act like ”chaos” sob (a faction which specifically revolves around the concept of fanatical worship of the emperor) is the only way to have female chaos worshippers just speaks to their lack of creativity (or rather coomerbrain), why can’t you just make a chaos cult that’s taken over a imperial militia or planet or something? Why does it specifically have to be sob?
>>88992788This is objectively false, sob aren’t just ”female space marines”, they are the official military branch of the ecclesiarchy and can far more accurately be described as military nuns specifically devoted to the worship of the emperor. The space marines (without some exceptions like the black templars) are atheistic and do not worship the emperor, thus being far more susceptible to the influences of chaos.Your opinion is shit and so are you for acting like you have any idea at all about this subject when you so clearly do not. Never post here again.
>>88989905>samare you sure it was a girl?
>>88990236have you seen catholic nun? They do look like this
>>88997042>done so much>posts what is probably the only examples of itAs for the Arks of Omen, that was the first time we had official chaosSoB. All other examples were mind controlled or isolated incidents. Arks of Omen murder curse is the first time entire orders convert to worship out of corruption, not because of mind control
>>88997202>SOB's can't be corrupted because they're the official military branch of the ecclesiarchy and astartes only fall when they're atheistsnigga you have missed the point of the state religion being based around a rotting dead corpse. the influence of chaos is much more insidous than just 'beleive in the emperor and you'll always be safe'. The chaos gods can MAKE YOU follow them, the more you resist the tighter their grip on your soul is. It's not people just choosing to follow chaos it being forced to, like the Khorne murder curse with Angron, Astartes, Sisters of battle etc forced into a khornate berserker rage even though they were pious and followed the emperor.Chaos SOBs soon
>>88992770they're subversives in a cult, whether they know it or not. performative narcissism that they hope to achieve for social media clout. it's why bitshammer is around and all the "leftist agenda" pushers who surround him. That french painter who does the tranny flags is another prime example. No purpose to it other than to inflate one's ego for a cause, of course. This is why they tell you they can't tolerate you, even if you give them an iota of push back. That's what they want or there is no "cause" for their ego's to latch onto. see >>88989519
>>88989519>[thing] is not happening and it's a good thing that it is!Every fucking time.
>>88997458You've also got the Bloodtide from the 5th edition Grey Knights codex if you are being that pedantic.
>>88997992You mean that thing that the SoBs were so resistant to that Grey Knights turned them into lucky charms?
>>88989400No, I white knight hard for the Sororitas. They strike me as the closest thing to pure hearted good guys in 40k. >My mates: do they giva ya the horn?!>Me: no, because I was breast fed as a child
>>88997458>convert to worship out of corruption, not because of mind controlwhat is the difference here? one will quickly lead to the other when chaos is involvedat the end of the day, there are a number of examples of SOB falling to Chaos against their will, which implies it can happen quite easily under the right circumstances
>>88989423I think the Slaaneshi one doesn't look cute enough.
>>88998206Too unironically pure for Chaos.
>>88998151To be honest there is little difference. I guess mind control usually gets undone, whereas corruption is usually solved with purging and always results in mutation
>>88989758As well as Rawbutt Girlyman's half-eldar son. What's your point?
>>88998229You have a twitter account where you talk about designing games, don’t you?
>>88992788Remember that not all space marines who are "chaos" actually fell to Chaos - they can just be renegade and they get lumped together. Also the only time "half" of space marines fall to Chaos I can think of is - Horus Hersy (And in the shit with Huron Blackheart that was I think a 50/50), and even then - Thousand Sons, Death Guard, Alpha Legion (possibly) I would say were not super gun-ho about the whole deal, and a lot of them are just following Horus, the actual "Chaos" turn for many comes later, and even the ones who were bad - Night Guard, Iron Warriors, unless the lore has changed with the new books they didn't give a fuck about Chaos. So, I'd say even where you have a 50/50 split in lore it's not that clean in terms of people actually falling to Chaos proper.
>>88989400sisters of chaos should be the oppsite of nuns --basically lusty, leather-wearing hot nuns with big ((GUNS))
>>88989400I would be fun to have slaanesh sisters before having slaanesh marines.
>>88989400I say yay too
>>88989519>>88989400I would be immensely surprised if no one, from the lowest cult leader to a daemon prince ever thought to themselves, 'you know what would be great? A convent of corrupted nuns that worship chaos.' To mock the imperium, as bodyguards, as a harem, or some combination thereof. I know if I was a daemon prince I'd want as people worshiping me personally as possible. Might as well train and equip some of them into something that's a cut above the usual rabble.
>>89003403This is really more the non-M18 rating of the series. It's like how Sisters captured by heretics are probably raped multiple times, but the stories don't go into that.The only ones that explore desire with regard to the Sisters are Faith & Fire (there are multiple attempted sexual assaults on the Sisters), Cast A Hungry Shadow (A corrupted Sister is used to breed genestealers) and Requiem Infernal (A Sister has a lascivious daemonette split-personality, because she's insane. Even then, she's a serial killer, and doesn't fuck.)Obviously there are bad guys with harems of Sisters of Battle, but I suppose they don't want to write a story about how the girls all end up sex-slaves (which I think is really hot, incidentally.)
>>88989905>SamI'm curious, I'm from Kentucky and there's reasons to say any particular chunk of it is a shithole, but there's a big difference between Louisville and a holler
>>88989400I say nay. a couple here or there for flavor but the idea overall is shit
>>88997595>posting le epic FEMALE world eater fan artkys
>>88989768That stuff at least has character, unlike your WoW pauldrencore soulless bullshit.
>>88989649I need that tzeentch chick in my life.
>>88989400>>88989649>>88989833>>88991371>>88992712>>88992788>>88995489>>88996841>>89002776Come on, guys. Show at least a little creativity rather than just parroting the same color schemes of Chaos Space Marine Legions.Take >>88989878 for instance, which is clearly Slaanesh-corrupted, and has the edgy black, but picked silver and white trim over the gold of the Black Legion, and while that's the color scheme of the Fallen, at least they're a relatively minor Chaos faction.
>>88991509Heretic, yes, but not necessarily Chaos-touched. Gen sings the Emperor's praises, though that may be old habit. She doesn't display any Chaos symbols or powers. Even Janos in that story isn't worshipping whatever is connected to that dagger
>>88989905>who broke up with me because I drank too much.can't believe I'll say this but she dodged a bullet
Nah fuck off the last thing we need is warhammerslop ripping off heavy metal magazine even more
>>88994858Anon this isn't Fantasy where chaos are just the gods people happen to worship, but are otherwise still functional people.This is 40k, no sex, all in on violent retardation.
>>88989400Yay for yourdudes, hard nay (as hard a nay as Chaos Custodes or Sanguinius returning) for Lore if you know a single shred about it.Miriel Sabathiel is the sexy exception that proves the rule.
>>88998166would still smash though
>>89005602what are you on about anon? The only good things about Warhammer is when it rips off heavy metal!
>>88989878that's just a marilith
>>88997202It's certainly possible. In Shroud of Night a Canoness is almost corrupted by a Keeper of Secrets and only saved by the intervention of the Saint:>Its eyes were black pools, fathomless, fascinating. Levinia fought the thing’s corrupting gaze, but it swallowed her as surely as if she had plunged headlong into a lake of oil. The sweet stink of its musk filled her senses, awakening dark, horrible longings deep in her soul.>‘Emperor,’ she gasped, her sword point wavering, lowering. ‘Where are you?’>‘He is dead…’ whispered the daemon, reaching out for her.>Then, from above, the Saint struck like a thunderbolt.A normal Sister should be able to be corrupted, but not easily.Oh and there is only 1 known Corrupted Sister of Battle, Miriael Sabathiel.
>>89004697Shut up faggot
>>89006542Both Shroud of Night and The Invitation are great stories. Also in Bloodied Rose, sisters get teased by khornites because of how easily they rage
>>88995966Didn't her whole order got eaten by a demon or something? I think that count as corruption, even if they kept resisting chaos after the fact.
>>88997081>(a faction which specifically revolves around the concept of fanatical worship of the emperor)That's literally the Word Bearers
>>88996971The existence of female characters is not politics.Faggot.
>>88989649>>88997081Why couldn't you have both of those?Chaos sisters AND cults, militias and trator guard?
Yay. Bit there are two reasons why Chaos Sisters are so rare and will remain so.1.) Chaos Sisters inevitably attract coomers and GW wants to be more appealing to a broader audience so can't have that.2.) The Sisters are women and you can't have women show weakness of vulnerability in current year
>>89006766>BAWWWWWWWWWW the imperium has a toy I don't and I WANT IT NOW REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWhy not introduce something truly unique for Chaos instead of making them more boring orks that can only loot imperium units and glue spikes on them? I swear, chaosfags are like a perpetually whiny younger brother that just wants to take his older brother's things out of spoiled jealousy.
>>89006891Calm down oniichan.That's just how Chaos works. It can't innovate, only corrupt. It's always been like this.
>The space marines are atheistic and do not worship the emperor>in M41More dumb shit to remove form my headcanon.
>>89006681>Didn't her whole order got eaten by a demon or something? I think that count as corruption, even if they kept resisting chaos after the fact.She fused with the remains of one than a daemon sewed together into a Soul Torture LAN party, but they still remained pure.In essence, she's a soul amalgamation like a Mini Emperor
>>89006891>I swear, chaosfags are like a perpetually whiny younger brother that just wants to take his older brother's things out of spoiled jealousyChaos.
>>88989905Call Katrina IMMEDIATELY Anon
>>89006652>The Bloody Rose.>Rage so hard that they manifest minor phenomena around themselves, often attributed as 'acts of faith'.Are Sisters of the Bloody Rose seen as some inappropriate subject of desire for Khornates?All the rage, all the violence. But in the wrong fucking side.>>89006952It's canon, excepting the Black Templars, and the Grey Knights.
>>89007686>Are Sisters of the Bloody Rose seen as some inappropriate subject of desire for Khornates?He cares not from whence the blood flows.Depends on the time of month I guess.
>>88996841>white tooth>not a single wart on the faceC'mon...
>>89006930What are daemon enginesWhat is Vashtorr>>89006542A lot more than that now, thanks to Angron stabbing that mini-Astronomicon with the full power of Khorne, causing the Murder Curse that corrupted an entire Imperial warfleet to Khorne, with only the Grey Knights, Sisters of Silence, and Custodes remaining completely uncorrupted.
>>88989833>>88990586So, going by these two tables as a starting pointhttps://1d4chan.org/wiki/Sisters_of_Battle_Order_Creation_Tableshttps://1d4chan.org/wiki/Chaos_Space_Marine_Warband_Creation_TablesI guess we could go for something like this:>Order (Harem? Seraglio?) Originator (I guess it's always a minor order)>Order Type (militant, hospitaller, dialogus etc.)>Ecclesiarchal Suspicion (is the Ecc/=][= just suspicious of the sisters or they've managed to stay entirely hidden? Are they on the run or their betrayal is so big/impactful they are publicly known?)>Reason for Fall>Number of defectors/harem size>Primary Daemon Prince (instead of a saint)>How did he seduce the Sisterhood to fall? (Instead of deed of legend)>Devotion to Ruinous Powers>Chaos worship>What form do the Falen Order's beliefs take>Demeanor>Common Mutations/Deficiencies (chaos boons maybe instead? So we can get snek sisters like >>88989878 or nurgle seraphs like >>88991133 or succubi style like >>88989605 etc.)>Common Mental Flaws>Order Homeworld&Terrain (if they're still hidden or under suspicion this can be an Imperial world, otherwise it's a refuge of their own)>Combat doctrine>Stolen Equipment (what arms and items they were able to stockpile for their cause while still remaining unnoticed etc.)>Order Allies>Order EnemiesThe theme here would be that since Ecc is so merciless in hunting down Fallen Sisters, they mostly remain in hiding and pretend as if everything is business as usual - until their big move when they choose to go out in the open and make their betrayal known. The rest of the options should be fluffed out accordingly. Thoughts?
>>89008301I'd say avoid the Order origins or reasons for fall, if we're looking at developing a canon-friendly creation table.Perhaps more a "How did this body come about?" and "Guiding philosophy/s" (which could be a mixture of god-aligned, or lifestyle aligned) ala the order being 'convergent evolution' as a body of warrior-women of a shared pseudo-religion, rather than 'divergent' from a body that already profess passionate ideology.It'd also allow for more diversity in results imo and if you wanted, falling from an order could still be a group origin, with a "roll again" table for source order.
>>88995966I meant the corrupted sisters in that comic, not herself. Or am I misrembering it? It has been ages since I read it.>>89008301I would prefer this >>89008506 as well. Regardless where you stand on the Absolute Purity of the Sisters, going in that direction allready presupposes a lot of shit. Maybe just stick with the idea of a "chaos sisterhood" and then go from there?
>>89008301>Primary Daemon Prince (instead of a saint)>How did he seduce the Sisterhood to fall? (Instead of deed of legend)Doesnt have to be a daemon prince, could just be a thousand son sorceror, or alpha legion sabotager, or word bearer preacher. Or something else entirely
>>89008506>>89008674But that wouldn't be a story about Fallen Sisters then? I mean the idea behind this was that, although rare, corruption happens even within the ranks of the "most pure". Seeing how galaxy is humongously big with quadrillions of humans around, there's enough room for something like that to happen too. And since Ecclesiarchy tries it's darnest to preserve the image of purity of the Imperial Cult and it's arm militant, Imperium at large doesn't hear/know about Chaos SoB all that much (if at all) and the Fallen Sisters take extreme precaution not to be found out for as long as possible. Hence the focus is on secrecy, internal sabotage and what not, instead of outright confrontation, except in the case when they are found out or reveal themselves due to being confident enough. Creating a 'body of warrior-women' that are aligned with chaos can be anything and is not specifically related to Chaos Sisters of Battle which is what I was going for here desu.>>89008709Agreed, Daemon prince was just the first thing that came to my mind, these are all placeholder names
>>89008301>>89008506>>89008674>>89008709So to compile and update (before I sleep),>Order (Harem? Seraglio?) origin (God-worship, renegades, pirates, cult, varied civilian, adeptus. Possibly even Sororitas proper if you role a 99)>Order Type (militant, hospitaller, dialogus etc.)>Ecclesiarchal Suspicion (is the Ecc/=][= aware of the sisters or they've managed to stay entirely hidden? Is their existence as "false sisters" known?)>Guiding philosophy. >Number of defectors/harem size>Revered figure (Sorcerer, Alpha Legion, Preacher, Daemon prince, Daemon, CSM)>Deed of legend.>Level of Order devotion to Ruinous Powers.>Chaos worship ideation (God? Primordial beast of annihilation? Halfway specific philosophical concepts that aren't quite under a god)>What form do the Order's beliefs take (orthodox, obscure, esoteric, practical, lavish, casual, refined)?>Demeanor>Common Mutations/Deficiencies (chaos boons maybe instead? So we can get snek sisters like >>88989878 or nurgle seraphs like >>88991133or succubi style like >>88989605 etc.)>Common Mental Flaws>Order Homeworld&Terrain (if they're still hidden or under suspicion this can be an Imperial world, otherwise it's a refuge of their own)>Combat doctrine>Stolen Equipment (what arms and items they were able to stockpile for their cause while still remaining unnoticed etc.)>Order Allies>Order EnemiesI like it when /tg/ gets shit done.>>89008819Yeah but the thing about SoB is that them going "fuck it, I'm joining chaos" doesn't make as much sense (given they're SoB, and so zealous about NOT Chaos they can manifest ambient miracles) as a similar order of zealous warrior-women forming around Chaos-belief that's ended up basically being the same thing.It's a compromise that's a little more lore-friendly, while still allowing them to originate from an Order, as the idea of Traitor Sister orders is about as lore-friendly as Custodian-run Tau sex rings.
>>88989400Actual fallen sisters should be rare or a result of mind control. But female cultists in stolen/looted/knockoff armor are perfectly fine.
>>89009000>>89008819>Creating a 'body of warrior-women' that are aligned with chaos can be anything and is not specifically related to Chaos Sisters of Battle which is what I was going for here desu.Well that was what I meant with presupposition, they would be tied somewhat to the sisterhoods aesthetics, tactics etc. instead of their own thing. If you want to go specifically for the idea for dark sisters, then maybe the best middle ground between the purityfags and corruptionfags would be just to start with the assumption, that we are talking about a feamle chaos warband that bears the armor and equipment of sisters or is closely desgined after them, - basicly like the Blood Pact and then move on how they are acting. Are they trying to pose as genuine sisters and hide their true identiy? Are they trying to pose as corrupted sisters? Or are they just styled after them? The biggest differenc problem would make the revered figure (similar to the saints, yeah) and the chaos god - they would be quite diverse, while the actual Sororitas tend to be way more streamlined then the Space Marines - and as a result, so are the CSM, so thats something one should keep in mind.
>>89009010dunno, times change man. I don't see why it wouldn't become a more common occurrence, especially in the age of the Dark Imperium where everything went to shit even more than usual and forces of mankind are stretched thin across the galaxy, beset by ruinous powers on all sides. Another thing to consider it the ever-memed potential ascension of the Emperor as a new chaos god. Sisters being the most devoted of his servants and slowly showing greater and greater propensity to fall (regardless of how small when compared to the overall SoB numbers) would be a grim omen of things to come.
>>89009000>>89009234I get what you're saying and the more I think about it, I think you're on the money with the looted/copycat option - and the best thing is that actual SoB can also be an option at 99-00. Chaos Sisters that are like amazon vixens trying to be a parody and mockery of what Sisters of Battle are supposed to be is kinda growing on me. Especially if you can roll a sabotage/infiltration of Imperial institutions as a mode of operation for their group.
>>88992676>edgyThat's 50% of WH40k >cool trope [..] incorruptibleAbout as cool as ultraspergs being the greatest of them all
>>89008301>>89009000>literally just smashing SoBs and CSMs together Fucking lazy and pathetic
>>89009909I will admit that I am a bit hard on the Sisters Purity, but at the same time there is a certain dark elegance to the art posted here, I also see that - but then you run into roadblocks quickly. The other way you can have multiple options, the biggest difference would propably how they act.. Khorne alligned would propably more about the defacement / iconoclasm aspect and less trickery and Tzeentch more so, as I described earlier >>88995129. Some other stuff I could see:>Nurglites posing as"´Hospitalers that spread diseases, Bonus Points if their corruption is not that visible, Typhoid Mary Style>Tzeentchians posing as Dialogus that fight via spreading misinformation and misderection and psychic mindfuckery>Slaaneshi Agents posing as Sisters Famulus and well, doing the exact opposite>The reverse kinda, a female chaos cult that styles themselves after the Famulus and acts like Chaos Bene Gesserit on a corrupted world>Basicly Groupies of a Alpha Legion Warlord, explains itself I think>Khornate Amazons, basicly doing a dark version of Venus Genetrix, going for some female aspect of Khorne as the strict mother raising warrior sons (and throwing psyker babies of cliffs) that just took up the sisters doctrine and aesthetic bloodpact style
>>89010307It's just a starting point you absolute faggot. Most of the tables build on one another and recycle content where needed. Make a meaningful contribution instead of being a little bitch.
>>88989400It's weird how they look like they're part of the Chaos Muhreens instead of corrupted Sisters.The Slaanesh one looks positively chaste but that's to be expected.The Nurgle one is way too clean, the hand and Nurgling almost look like a kitbash. They didn't have the balls to make her ugly any more than they had the balls to make the Slaanesh one sexy.The Tzeentch one is very generic and the Khorne one is literally a female World Eater.Nay, but the sculpts are good quality.
>>89010638They're literally kitbashes, dipshit.
>>88989400Nah. Just make an army of actual Sci-Fi witches to counter the scifi nuns. Elder don't count. Actual witches, they have them in the setting already, just give them an army.
>>89010380desu the only issue that I have with this approach vs Fallen SoB is that it waters down their identity and makes it more vague/ambiguous in the wrong way. Most of the Chaos factions, barring actual demons, are "X, but corrupted". With Chaos Sisters of Battle, you have a clear-cut idea of what they are supposed to be and a basis to develop them further e.g. SoB but inverted. With "warrior-women of chaos", not so much - they can be anything from rando cultists to gangs, and their power level is likewise considerably diminished, probably more at home among the Lost and the Damned. The copycat/scavenger idea is also a bit weaker, though I kinda like it in principle.
>>88989519>it strikes you as it cries in pain
I've long held the belief that the only people who want chaos sisters don't actually like sisters in the first place and this thread really confirms that belief
>>89010970And fallen SoBs waters down SoBs and robs them of much of their shtick, yet I don't see you bringing that up
>>89011258Hmmmmm true. But I still would want some Sisters of Chaos, the idea of she-devils of ruin is too appealing to me, coomerbait aside. And again, the more I think about it the more I believe you and other anons are right with the "roundabout approach". Maybe the purity of the SoB actually plays in favor of SoC? Maybe the ruinous powers are irked to no end by the fact that it's nigh impossible to corrupt them? And that's where the copycat/infiltration shtick comes in - they send their cultist agents and try their best to sabotage the SoB from within (and in turn Ecclesiarchy/Imperial Cult), only to be found out every single time - but that's not gonna stop them from trying. I'll rethink the table choices a bit along these lines, give me a sec.
>>88990249>I would have to write invoices in excel for the housework and chores I did and then print them out and have my stepfather haggle with me over how much I was chargingLMAO, absolutely poverty tier
>>89010789>Just make an army of actual Sci-Fi witchesWitches?...OR MAHOU SHOUJO?!
>>89011258Agreed.Realistically, the idea of Sororitas suddenly also being able to fall to chaos is silly.>>89011736Maybe it's copycatting, or maybe it's just an order of warrior-women/witches/priestess' just develops naturally.Also check my prior modifications.
>>89011736The idea is inherently shit and so is everyone who wants it. I'll break it down for you step by step.SoBs are defined, in equal measure, by their purity and humanity. This is very important to the armies general "vibe", as it were. They are humans, but they are also inhumanly pure. They are not inherently immune to chaos like Custodes, Sisters of Silence, Grey Knights, etc, they are just that pure/indoctrinated to resist it and even manifest miracles. This is one of the key defining aspects of their faction and having them fall en masse to Chaos fucking ruins that. >b-b-but what about all the times the ruinous powers tempt themExactly! They're TEMPTED, but don't fall. That's their charm. They're not immune to Chaos, they constantly feel it's seductive tug, but they resist it all the same with nothing more than good old fashioned human will.>b-b-but what about Miriel SabathielShe's also great, but only as the exception that proves the rule. She shows that Sisters CAN fall, but they don't (save for her). Making Sisters falling a regular occurrence not only dilutes SoBs, but also dilutes Miriel's narrative importance. >b-b-but what about the bloodtide/Angron's ragescream/nurgle plagues/etcThis is where things get complicated/stupid due to the fact that Chaos is both an insidious in the hearts of all mankind as well as a psychic mindrape field that will forcibly zombify you against your will. Sisters who succumbed to these things didn't submit to the ruinous powers the way Miriel did, their bodies simply gave out and they became pox/rage/rape/nerd zombies. They're not so much fallen sisters as zombified corpses in SoB armor. Nobody calls a Poxwalker a "Fallen Manufactorum Worker", after all. tl;dr: Sisters of Chaos is not only fucking retarded, but it ruins the narrative significance of both the only existing Sister of Chaos as well as SoBs at large. Only fucking idiots and dickminded coomers think they're a good idea.
>>89013499See >>89008506 b4 rageposting.
>>89013544You're still trying to create Chaos SoBs instead of just Chaos cultists because you want to rip off SoB aesthetics because you can't imagine anything unique or original for chaos and want to defile SoBs even if you don't want to call them fallen SoBs. That post is just you trying to have your cake and eat it too.
I'm in favor of themI think the aesthetic of chaos sisters is too good to pass upHowever there should definitely make a point about them being extremely rareMaybe on the tabletop there would be something about only being able to field 1 unit of them in your army at max
>>89002776Slaanesh sisters looking angelic is a strong concept
>>89013678Yeah no shit, it's /tg/ fancannon, it's nothing new.Besides, 40k itself is just "ripping off" other popular tropes and themes as well. Either straight, or subverted.Ergo, subverting the basically-sexy-warrior-nuns with a visually mirror opposite is entirely appropriate.>>89010380It gets better.>Ordo type is separate to ideation of worship.>Slaaneshi Ordo Diologus.>Khorne Ordo Hospitallers.>Tzeentchian Ordo Militant.>Nurgle Ordo Famulus.Maximum rofl.
>>89017148>Ergo, subverting the basically-sexy-warrior-nuns with a visually mirror opposite is entirely appropriate.see >>89013499
>>88989400>Sisters of Chaos>yay or nay?>I say yayBased
Friends and I have have spit-balled some of this before and while there is precedence, we brainstormed their corruption being paired with some aspect that Chaos has or is trying to emulate:Paired with Sound Marines -> Banshees? -> Harpies? -> Sphinx/Lamiaetc. Almost exclusively pulled from mythologies but it was a fun experiment. Can't find my session note that had the list we built.