Grey Knights Day Edition>Leviathan Launch Boxhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/04/29/warhammer-40000-leviathan-whats-in-the-box/>10th edition rules previewshttps://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/03/30/warhammer-40000-new-edition-everything-you-need-to-know/>Downloads; Rules Errata and FAQshttps://www.warhammer-community.com/downloads/https://www.warhammer-community.com/fags>Tools to Improve Battlescribe Readabilityhttps://buttscri.be/40k.phphttps://rweyrauch.github.io/PrettyScribe/https://stratascribe.eu.pythonanywhere.com/>Tool to make unit/stratagem cardshttps://game-datacards.eu>3rd Party Models Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/UtBbGNpp>/40kg/ Rules PDF megaREBRAND(dot)LY(slash)40KPDFMEGAS>Got a codex? Upload it hereREBRAND(dot)LY(slash)40KPDFUPLOAD>TorrentInfo hash: 7214f3185b4249d3C1889f696ee39218cf09237>Previous thread:>>88985575>Thread question:Whats your review of the Grey Knights' teleporting shenanigans? What are your hopes/fears for Deldar preview tomorrow?
>hopes for Deldar previewI just want them to not be absolute dogshit, but given how hard they were nerfed into the ground last edition there's no hope of that. GW is going to hold a grudge this edition and probably won't forget it for another two editions after this. Just look at Tyranids, a literal shadow of their 9e selves.
>>88988270so after reading the GK preveiw, I think I have an idea of what the units psychic ability will be with a couple mysteries:>Strikes-?????>Purifiers-Purifying Flames "Gun"Interceptors-?????>Purgation-Astral Aim>Brotherhood [5th edition returns]-Hammerhand ability (Re-roll melee Wound Rolls)>Paladins-Armoured Resilience ability (+1 to Save Throw)>Brotherhood Apothecary-Aegis Eternal ability (FNP6+ to attached unit)>Brotherhood Ancient- Inescapable Pursuit (Reroll Charge of attached unit)>Paladin Ancient- Protection of Purity (Immunity or buff against Psychic to attached unit)
>>88988270>TomorrowCorrection, the Dark Eldar Preview is Monday.
Eldar would sell more if more of the female models were barefoot, trust me on this one.
>>88988323harlequins' motley is just body paint :)
>>88988323Feetfags get the rope.
What did The Lion say when he heard that the emperor has become a living corpse?
>>88988339Eldar are canonical footsluts.
>>88988339NOOOO NOT THE HECKIN BODY PART. Anti-footfags are much more obnoxious and cringe. Rope yourself, redditor.
>>88988340>"Good."
What was teegee's reaction to GW spoiling the 4th Tyrannic War on Warhammer+?
>>88988340"I'm too old for this shit"
for me it's the DeLorkean
>>88988348>>88988323>tfw no scourge gf to give you a clawed footjob with her prehensile talons while you fluff her wings before demolishing her cloaca and manhandling her all around the house since she's got hollow bones and weighs nothingkill me, pete
>POST WIPSFinished the lightning on my power weapons last night. Heads and bases are next for this group.Also get to start drybrush highlights on my terrain.>>88988270>TQSeems like a neat ability that's flavorful and I'm pretty happy for the couple of GK dudes I know.
I lost my hairsquigno grot listens to methe waaagh has fallentrillions must die
>>88988368Alright I know I was being weird with the feet stuff but you're taking it too far, birdfucker.
>>88988297I've got a feeling Hammerheads going to turn into reroll wounds vs units on objectives because battleline unit.
>>88988368They are genetically engineered, cannibalistic killing machines, not your waifu
>>88988357I don't give a shit about proper nids. GSCs are cool though.
>>88988365Gonna llay more tonight. The Trike's fun, wish it did more damage though.
>extreme mobility>superb statlinesweird that there is no Anti-Daemon 4+ on their weapon
>>88988368boy
>>88988394And people thought Eldar were annoying for their movement, can't wait to see how much raw fury GKs inspire by teleporting onto every objective and then outmaneuvering every other army with easeWith their new statlines they're basically a Custodes sidegrade, but with the teleport rule they're now Custodes that are faster than every other unit in the game, and it's going to be actually nightmarish to try to fight that
>>88988377possibly. I think I am close to what they will do. GW is trying to move the Psychic powers that were used/related to the units from the previous editions. Purgations would have used Astral Aim in 9th if both the unit and power were not subpar. I have not the slightest Idea what the Interceptors or Strikes will have though...
>>88988381scourges are the most trusted and protected people in commorragh you lorelet, they're basically ultra-high-class mailmen responsible for delivering packages and missives between the elite. they're one of the only truly untouchable castes of society in comorragh since NOBODY likes having their mail fucked with, anyone dumb enough to interrupt a Scourge during their courier work has the entire city come down on their heads. The packages they deliver also have tailor made toxic bombs and dead man switches that only the sender and receiver know how to disarm or produce an antidote for, to ensure that even the person delivering it can't take a peek.idk about you but I wouldn't mind a hot bird elf UPS driver gf. imagine how soft the wings are
I hope there's a gamewide points increase to encourage smaller games.
>>88988411>Smaller games3000 points is the main focus for this edition. much like Horus Heresy
>>88988357did the spoil how it ends already?or do you think setting up the scene is spoiling the narrative? because if that's the case then you must the only faggot oj this gay earth who thinks abbadon's storylines are better for not being "spoiled"
>>88988411just play a lower point game?????
So…Nurgelite ships eventually develop sentience (rot and decay obviously means intelligence and tentacles). Wouldn’t this give Nurgle CSM vessels a major advantage over loyalist ships?
>>88988410>trustednot in the least. The packages they're handed for delivery are laced with enough poison to kill a Primarch and the only people who have the antidote are the intended recipient of the package/message.
>>88988418>3000 pointsokay bro here's my HQ and six wraithknights have fun I guess
>>88988406this looks good but is 1A too low?
>>88988411Fuck off. Lazy cunt. Play your shitty small games and leave the fun enjoyers alone.
>>88988429>six wraithknightsrules of 3?
>>889884383 regular wraithknights3 skathach wraithknights
>>88988429Thats on you for being a faggot though?
>>88988406>T4 2W no invuln >comparable to T6 3W 5++ I'll admit they'll be tricksy as hell and probably on par with custodes once you consider differences in model count but let's not exaggerate here, model vs model GK don't come close to custodes.
>>88988372WIP on my battlewagon. Still haven't gotten rivets on it yet, that's next.
>>88988431yes, it SHOUL be 2A at least but I can excuse a lot of the datasheets and rules as this is just the index shit. now, the Codex is a different question
>>88988443you're the faggot trying to play at 3k points instead of just playing epic
>>88988431One per model in the unit.
>>88988441this is why the rule of 3 has always been retarded
>>88988450You're such a moron. Piss off.
>>88988431If every purifier gets it in addition to all their regular heat it will be a fair boost in firepower over a generic gk.
>>88988441>skathach wraithknightsjust admit you were wrong
>>88988418>3k>on these table sizesAdMech OP because you can't even leave the DZ.
>>88988445With their psychic buffs and offensive powers added in, GKs are not going to have much trouble taking on Custodes even if Custodes are going to be tougher per model
>>88988372Pretty happy with the pustules on my bannerman here.
>>88988431each dude gets to use that in addition to their storm bolter or special weapon
>>88988423They seem to have spoiled the first weave narrative. The Solblades prevented the tendrils from breaking into Segmentum Solar but at a great cost. The new Norn beasty was gibbed by the Custodes. But the tendrils will keep trying though.
>>88988456Yeah a full unit with the strat would deal 5.5 wounds on average, not caring about any defensive abilities except FNP BEFORE plink damage from storm bolters and charging, pretty good.
>>88988466did you drill the holes beforehand, or heat up the ball and push it into the plastic.
>>88988372Basecoating my Kataphrons.
>>88988468Plot armour to the rescue
I love scourges, they're so much cooler than swooping hawks it's not even funny
Thinking about expanding more. Still have 30NL left to paint and after that I have to make more units for my WB
>>88988507more like basedcoating am I right?I'll see myself out
will the Blood Angels get involved in the 4th Tyrannic War?
>>88988411How will that encourage smaller games smart guy?
>>88988519almost certainly not, they're in the complete opposite side of the galaxy and separated from the 4th Tyrannic War by the Cicatrix Maledictum, plus they already had their own big showdown with Leviathan just recently, and right now their plotline is about getting curbstomped by Angron and the World Eaters
>>88988454that is literally going to be one (1) datasheet. if it isn't it proves that creating this edition is wholly a cash grab and the entire edition will be a shitshow
>>88988519Probably not, they're in the Imperium Nihilus, the 4th Tyrannic War is on the opposite side of the galaxy in Segmentum Pacificus. Also GW has way overfocused on the BA vs Nids shit for too long now because they kept milking Baal, it's over and done with, move on, there are so many other groups to face off with nids.
>>88988519The second half of Leviathan is at their doorstep. Literally. They are already have been fighting this war before these new tendrils popped up in the west.Anywat, the loremaster episode said that the new invasion proves that the Tyranids are encircling the galaxy. What are the implications of this?
>>88988539>What are the implications of this?New Marine units.
Feels like shit. Just want him back.
>>88988530woa cool can the Blood Angels win for once without getting 99% of their chapter smacked?
>>88988544The cooler abaddon
>>88988454It's still useful as a safety valve when specific configurations are overlooked and overtuned. The idea is to at least stop "all razorwing flocks vs. all gun drones" while still leaving flexibility.
>>88988357It obviously ends with "tyranids get beaten, nothing of consequence happens, leviathan is still the default tyranid color scheme for the next 15 years" so literally who even cares. Also>warhammer+I don't understand why anyone would even know about something on warhammer+, that would mean people were watching it for some reason.
It seems to me the easiest way to make any model look more chaotic is to add spikes to it, but where to get lots of small spikes? Cut small pieces off the sprue?
>>88988541cant wait for sternguard primaris multipart kit. especially if GW have half a brain and put some DW shoulderpads in it.
>>88988539>What are the implications of this?The other Necron Overlords distrusted the Silent King when he came back from exile between galaxies and started yapping about having to awaken everyone and unite to face the Tyranids because>how on earth could he have encountered Tyranid ships in the void between galaxies? Those distances are insanely immense, incalculable. Ridiculous, there'd have to be so many Tyranid ships that they somehow completely encircled the entire galaxy for that to make any lick of senseAnd then this happened, showing that the Silent King wasn't lying... at least not about this particular thing
>>88988555Just sharpen some plastic rod
>>88988553>leviathan is still the default tyranid color scheme for the next 15 yearsThis is the part that annoys me the most. I really wanted the 10th ed posterboys to be a new Hive Fleet and new scheme. I think GW stuck with Leviathan because there aren't any other cool giant monster names in the Bible besides Behemoth which was already used as the first one.
>>88988545nope, sorry
>>88988539>What are the implications of this?Business as usual, just with more emphasis on the Tyranids possibly coming as a singular group rather than different Hive Fleets being from different galaxies (which was never confirmed and doesn't make sense timescale-wise anyway). It does mean that they can theoretically attack anywhere without territory resistance though; strictly speaking there's nothing stopping them just diving on Terra, though that would be a terrible strategy.
>>88988372>POST WIPSStill no progress on the shatterborn pack, and now I can't even go to my LGS to get advice because I got into a car accident, 2023 is not my year, no leviathan for me No big deal desu, I hope school is gonna go better
>>88988563Are we going to continue to ignore the plot point about the Dreaming Shadow saying that the Silent King created the Tyranids?
>>88988528People will play 2k because that's what they're used to and it's what other people play. If points go up, army sizes go down.
>the SM are losing! >and then they wonSummary for every story in 40K with sm as a focus
>>88988544> Its over Huron. I control the Cum Keg.
>>88988581I will until we get a second confirmation because it's beyond retarded. Once we do though I'll have to accept it.
>>88988581Until they remember they dropped that little nugget of lore and either confirm it or backtrack on it, yes.
>>88988545Oh no, marines didn't win as effortlessly as usual!
does the Mephiston model have a helmet?
god I want to be cuddled in the arms of a cocaine addict hollow-boned birdgirl so bad bros. someone talk me out of ordering another dozen scourges
RETVRN TO TRADITION
>>88988555toothpicks, a boxcutter, and a pair of tweezers to attach them easily.
>>88988545No because they're actually cool unlike most Marines. Mephiston aside who has become absolutely insufferable authors' pet power wank thanks to Black Library.
>>88988595>someone talk me out of ordering another dozen scourgesWait for the announcement that DE are getting a Scourge refresh along with new models to replace all the FW ones they discontinued
I’d like Incubi and the Succubus to get a 2+ save that cannot be reduced by any means as a special rule. The Archon should keep his 2+ invuln but as just a normal invuln save. Power from Pain should confer a 6+ FNP. Blade Artist should be turned into Lethal Hits 5+. Dark Lance must be buffed to put it in line with 10e anti-tank weapon standards. Boats have 4+ invuln and an assault ramp. Flyers have -1 to be hit and a 4+ invuln; bomb is buffed greatly, fighter weapons buffed greatly. Wychs can deny any attempts to fall back by any units within Engagement Range. Each leader model confers different buffs when attached.
>>88988581>Trusting an Eldar>Trusting an Eldar when they're speaking to Mon'Keigh>Trusting an Eldar speaking to Mon'Keigh about their mortal enemy that's been rent free in their species' head for 60 million years and counting
>>88988605I'd rather new mandrakes (especially if they gave us naked female mandrakes but that's probably too based to expect)
>>88988583People aren't used to the number 2000, they are used to armies of that size.
>>88988610Worse than an Eldar, a Harlequin; who know even better than Craftworlders but are even more feylike.
apparently the Hrud is still a substantial faction.how would you make their army unique and fun?
>>88988583But then people will just play higher points games for the same reason 2000 points became the standard in the first place.
>>88988615Lol, no
>>88988614Ive seen some good conversions using these. In fact you might not even need to convert if you're happy with them being bald and blind.
>>88988633Is that all you've got, you complete idiot?
>>88988603Mephiston was basically created to be a power wank pet from the get go so I don't blame BL for leaning on that
>>88988626Space Skaven.
>>88988626Less a substantial faction and more so just all over the place and hard to remove.
>>88988555Toothpicks work. Seal them with superglue before painting and use a little greenstuff to blend them in and make sure they're well seated. If you want more sculpted spike, one of the best sources is the chaos accessory sprues that come with Chaos Vehicles. Assuming you don't feel the need to use every bit on every vehicle you own it gives lots of extra little spikes to cut off.
>>88988270Grey Knights shouldn't be a playable army. Probably shouldn't even be a thing in-setting.
>>88988626>Shadow markers and some sort of fog of war mechanic>Time manipulation (saving dice to use later and "borrowing" future ones)
>>88988609>Dark Lance must be buffed to put it in line with 10e anti-tank weapon standards.I'm quite curious how fucked deldar are gonna get in terms of anti-tank, their best options are mostly dark lances at S8 and then the void lance on voidravens which is only S9.
>>88988654This but chaos daemons
>>88988654they date back to first edition
>>88988654This but Custodes
>>88988654You're getting your shiny boys confused, you're thinking of custodes
>>88988638>Idoneth units with Druhkariplease I don't need another army
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PUGongPSq8Nothing like a good story about Guard vs Tau. The picture is my guard vs my buddies tau at my house.
>>88988638those actually look like they'd work very well, might grab some and paint them all black
>>88988513I want a melee variant of scourges so fucking bad brosHellions are cringe and gayScourges are so cool
>>88988654I would be happy if Deathwatch, Custodes, Grey Knights, Legion of the Damned were all 3 units each ( 1 character, 1 power armoured unit, 1 termie unit).
>>88988626>Pseudo-elite/moderate model count>Extremely high firepower>Infiltrate/Stealth Spam>Low durability>Low Mobility once deployed>Gribbly monster focus over vehicle focus>Focus on auras that debuff rather than auras that buff from their temporal and warp-based powers as their "solution," to melee; being within short range of one Hrud unit is doable, being in short range of 3 fucks you up
>>88988657>at the end of the other player's movement phase, return enemy units to their original position at the beginning of this movement phase
>>88988654did you mean Custodes?
>>88988677>Jurassic Park terrain>not a single Knarloc or Greater Knarloc in the Tau armySHAME. SHAME. SHAME.
>>88988654I'm fine with them being in the setting - even as a full army if they just were another space marine chapter. But they're so much more, and they really exist to just make one SPECIFIC army feel really bad. If grey knights don't curbstomp daemons, it ruins the fantasy of playing as that army. If they do, then daemons just auto-lose the matchup.
>>88988609>Dark Lance must be buffed to put it in line with 10e anti-tank weapon standards.>>88988659It's a slightly better 10e Lascannon now.
>>88988516Zamn that's a lot, good job.
>>88988660True, as Chaos armies should be a mix of Demons, Marines, and Cultists.>>88988664Doesn't matter. "Space Marines, except even more specialerer!! All psykers! Incorruptible!!! Only for the most elite players! Are you elite enough?" Pure faggot-bait.
>>88988479Drilled the hole with a small pen bit, dab if glue and then shoved the ball in. I’ll try bigger beads for bigger pustules on dreads and tanks.
Some armies should hard counter other armies and I'm tired of pretending otherwise
>>88988664>This ephemeral group whose existence is core to the setting shouldn't existYou know you don't actually have to larp as your army and adopt their beliefs as your own right?>>88988667>>88988670>>88988691Both.
>>88988667>>88988691coping Astartesian hands typed these posts.
>>88988687Deathwatch being its own codex is absolutely stupid, it would be far better to be part of the Inquisition faction so that any Imperial army can take Deathwatch Kill-TeamsAlternatively it should be like Corsairs are for Eldar, an elite infantry squad that any Space Marine players can add to their army
>>88988677where did you guys get those containers on the left side from?
predict how high the strength of this gun will be in 10e, considering it's already s16 in 9th edition. I'm thinking 20+ if the imperial knights shit is any indication, some of their guns are S24 even.unfortunately there's no dark eldar equivalent, dark lances are pretty much it in terms of anti-tank
>>88988682>We wuz aeldari
>>88988718that's the opposite of fun
>>88988555>>88988599Seconding the toothpicks, works great. I’d post a pic, but apparently my pictures didn’t all make it to the new phone.
>>88988586Man I forgot about this guy, would be nice to convert another captain out of him.
>>88988718>I want the game to be decided before I even show upThen why play the game?
>>88988721>Pretending to be superior on the internet because your fictional dudes are stronger and better and perfecterYou have to be 18 to post here.
Perturabo and Honsou linked up. Need it, or keep it?
How long are 2000 point games supposed to take. I'm a fairly new player and they take me like 4-5 hours, will this time decrease as I get more experience?
>>88988667>>88988670>>88988691No, them too. Absolutely them too, for all the same reasons, and then perhaps some extra.>>88988687It would be an improvement. An allied detachment, rather than something playable on their own. Just a single unit would be better.
>>88988729Bright/Dark Lance's are pretty good. Spamming them should work just fine.
>>88988682SHEEEEIIIT these mon-keigh be trippin
>>88988745>even space marines have trouble keeping track of all the stratagems
>>88988742>implying I play the game
>>88988742people play historicals, baffles me honestly
>>88988745>Perty loses a war>is happy about itI don't get it
>>88988721Custodes was great example of something new for another game being released and going, "I want that too" and when it happened, just about everyone regretted it. Custodes and Admech both fits this too.I mean for fuck sake, over half your shit is still in the Forgeworld catalog with zero chance of being moved to plastic or the GW side of things. it's so fucking pathetic
>>88988729Pulse Blastcannon (stormsurge) went from 16 to 24, so that seems reasonable to keep the same wounding profile (2's on everything except the tankiest motherfuckers)
>>88988581I wonder if it’s a metaphor, like they followed him to the galaxy and then got in range of the astronomicon and called all their buddies
>>88988765He's operating on a higher autistic plane that we regular autists can't even begin to comprehend
>>88988750Yes, if you're taking 5 hours to finish one game you should seriously consider playing smaller games until you get a better grasp on the rules
>>88988729Blast 1A S24 AP-4 D6+6
>>88988351Why do degens always bring up reddit like you didnt just come from a porn page there.
>>88988745>40k on a planetary scale >several different apocalypse matches linked by BFG Battles Kino
>>88988768As an AdMechfag you're right. I just want tech-thralls man.
Warhammer 40UK bros, what's a good price for the Votann box on ebay?I see sellers selling it above the original price of £120, but surely it's not worth that these days.
>Grey Knight purgators get a 2+ save>Thousand Sons marines keep their 5+ invun save>Knights get multiple FNP abilities>Orks wagh ability gives them a 5+ invun and beast snaggas get a 6+fnp>Custodes units get ignore mortal wounds, excellent saves all around and T7 terminators>Death Guard get....Put away the squeaky nose and wig, anons. We need every atom simulated to be a balloon and the entire ocean to be made out of seltzer water to begin to simulate the levels of clown world we are operating on.
>>88988768Admech was planned to be halves of the same whole until the guy writing the 30k rules for 40k fucking died and people saw fires of cyraxus as haunted. this edition though we are getting mechanicus in plastic and likely will have 40k rules
>>88988793those sellers sound like shitters who got burned but still hoping to get some return on their investment. if you're using ebay check out the completed/sold listings to see what they're actually going for.
>>88988780Trust me, I agree but my group insists on 2k point games for some reason
>>88988762Top tier retarded post, made me kek
>Single marine takes on whole armies>chainswords a few Greater Daemons and their accompanying hosts by himselfRealistically, how would other Imperials/SMs view Caedo in universe? The guy is a freak.
>>88988807rubrics lost all is dustOrks lost the 2nd stage of WaaaghDG got fucked yes but stop being a whiny bitch
>>88988807DGbros... it was over before it even began.
>>88988817Cato Sicarius would assassinate him
>>88988814seems tedious
>>88988820eldar had battle focus reduced to a sratagem :(
>>88988817See Khaldor Draigo.Also, Imperium kills characters all the time for being too competent. They're that paranoid.
>>88988817He'd be a Codex named character and would be considered one of the greatest heroes of the Imperium purely for his ability to mulch things; he might even be recommended for Chapter Master of a new Ultramarines successor in a new founding, or at least a Captain.
>>88988808>Mystery army releaseWe sure it'll be admech not auxiliaries?
>>88988348ELDAR FEET ARE JASMINE-SCENTED AND BEAUTIFUL
>>889887291 shot S14 Ap-3 D4 Devastating WoundsCalling it now
>>88988807complaining about orkz getting a 5+ invuln for a single turn (which is their entire faction ability) and a 6+fnp on a unit no one uses anyway is amusingidc about the others youre probably right there, I just find that funny in particular
Anyone have recommendations for some terrain STL's? I would ask /3dpg/ but this feels more warhammer related. My brother and I need more varied terrain besides the kill team starter set walls and scrap
>>88988846>Jasmine-scentedThe plant or the Disney princess?
>>88988677Looking comfy anon, have a nice game
>>88988603Yea it sucks. I actually liked the first Mephiston book. But he just keeps getting more OP each story
>>88988820>stop being a whiny bitchNo. I shan't. Death Guard is the resilience meme army. It's one thing to nerf death guard resilience (maybe reduce -1AP weapons to 0AP, maybe a 6+fnp, maybe a +1 save against damage 1 weapons) but outright removing the resilience is a giant meme and you might as well delete the faction, for it no longer has a purpose. Just remove Psychic powers from Grey Knights while we are at it, or make orks good at shooting and bad at melee
do you guys think incubi will keep their 3+ save and AP-3
>>88988750about 1 hour 30 mins on average
>>88988851Nah go ask 3dpg, they've got a fuck load of resources. There's a lot of good stuff on thingiverse and cults.
>>88988532prepare to be disappointed
She deserved more than she got.
>>88988811Checking their account, looks like they are a shitter and got stuck with an extra box. They've shit like Cursed City and other army boxes.
>>88988890'Kay but who?
>>88988874>do you guys think incubi will keep their 3+ saveYes>and AP-3Probably not. I'd guess -2.
>>88988888checked
>>88988874>XenosNo>elvesProbably
>>88988874>3+ saveno doubt, that's basically their whole identity, being Eldar with a 3+>AP -3 maybe, they're elites so them having good weapons is reasonable, but probably dropping to AP-2 just because this is the Less Lethal Edition™
>>88988904Bequa Kynska.
>>88988923That's not a name
>>88988923Who?
>>88988853>Disney princessHer feet smell of rose water.
>>88988940Okay Mr. Know-It-All, what do Tau feet smell like?
Rolled 5, 3 = 8 (2d6)Rolling to Doom the Dark Eldar.
>>88988954Blueberries
>>88988923>Literally whoOkay then
>>88988842its a plastic army so unless they're doing a whole new army just in plastic its more than likely admech also may I remind everyone of the flowchart
>>88988954Fresh cut spring grass.
man I really hope souping/ynnari is easy in 10th since dark eldar have such a fucking anemic list of datasheets to choose from, and half of these are out of production or finecast shit so it's even less variety than it appears at first glance. Either that or give me fucking Exodites with an entire new plastic model range (lmao not gonna happen).I am ASSUMING that bringing harlequins will be relatively painless the way imperials can just bring agents now
>>88988954earthen and musky
>>88988372whole new regiment in-processing right now
>>88988727Not that anon, but 40K is right around 1:48 scale, so just look for model shipping containers in that scale.
>>88988978>$1500 of vehiclesjesus how does anyone just spontaneously drop that much cash on new models for a new regiment all at once?
To any traitor guard bros who are interested, Wargames Atlantic will be releasing plastic traitor guard soon, I believe in boxes of 20. Looks like they can be built Vraks style or more like the blooded kill team.
>>88988986thanks for giving me an excuse to post these anon
>>88988986by not buying from geedubs, my dude. these are all ebay rescues
>>88988765Theyre playing a gigantic hybrid of chess/epic40k/bfg. Perturabo says there is 1 opening. Find it and win, or I will kill you IRL.Honsou wins. Perturabo says the Legion as a whole is united behind you. Basically Honsou is the human leader of IW now.
>>88988677Long tables>wide tables
>>88988986You get a job.
>>88988986
>>88988888>Check'dI will fucking lose it there are three separate datesheet for the storm speeder when literally the only difference between them is the fucking BS of the Hammerstrike because of it's weapon loadout.
>>88988994>I believe>Looks likeThere is nothing more cringe than obvious shills badly pretending they aren't shilling their own shit.
>>88988986last one for now
>>88989009>black templarswhat a waste
>>88988994>>88989017he might be a shill but they do look pretty neat
>>88989018Does he actually build and paint?
>>88988986Having a job and being a paypig
>>88988842Its admech or custodes. Both line up for 40k and 30k releases.Both could use some units in plastic.
Rolled 6, 2 = 8 (2d6)>>88988959DENIED
>>88989042You have failed, cousin. Doom be upon ye.
>>88989009>time to go nuts!>puts box on shelf to never opentruly a modern adventurer
>>88989000based Perty is just like us fr fr
So what army rule would you give to the Emperor's Children?
>>88989017Are you a fucking idiot? I don’t know how many’s in the kit or if they can be built differently or come mixed, you dullard.
>>88989035>post yfw it is Solar Auxilia and they get Guard Rules instead of the "Mystery Army" being Mechanicum or Custodes as neither of them are a new army to GW HH and AdMech and Custard get fucked
How do I monetize building, painting and playing 40k? Id rather do it than my job
>>88989091Pro painted scams or make terrain
>>88988368>FUCK MY CHICKEN PUSSY, KRUBER
Drukharibros, we're next! I can't contain my excitement.
>>88988954Depends on the caste
>>88988978Hey, were your rings fucked up for the Stygies Vanquisher and the Gryphonne turrets? Doesn't matter if it's FW or recasts, they never fit for me
>>88988994They look well designed. Can't say I'm a fan of the gas mask goggles and filters. Also the heads look too large. I prefer the modern cadian scale.
>>88989042>>88989046I'll get you next time Seer-Man!
>>88989070>Ravenous Pleasure>half the OC for non-vehicle enemy models within 18''>-1 AP for melee weapon if charge
>>88988381
>>88989070some sort of expanded combat drugs system that works like the CSM dark pacts.Before a unit attacks use one effect, use 2 and roll 2 dice such and such roll causes d3 mortal wounds, use 3 effects and roll 3 dice such and such effect causes d6 mortal wounds... whatever
So is there even a tiny chance at the Farsight box being relaunched or is it over for me
>>88989025yes, I was reading his twitter and he did PlaMo for a while. he's ok ngl>>88989091lol, lmao evenMany people can paint at a decent tabletop "I wouldn't be ashamed to put this on the battelfield" quality but few can do it fast enough (and cheaply) to make it profittable. you need to spend all day at your desk painting but you also need enough commissions to have something to paint. YOu can't just paint 1k points of CSM and have it collect dust waiting to be ordered.It takes such a huge amount of work doing commissions that you're better off developing your own skills and making tutorials and abusing the youtube algorithm.
>>88988699The Jurassic Park stuff is mine, my tau buddy doesn't care but that would have been cool. I am actually making a Jurassic Park themed Catachan army painting up the Taurox this weekend>>88988727I got them from a 3D print company at adepticon, I say them this year should have bought more. Sorry I can't remember the name. >>88988854Thanks anon this is an old game, I need to get my mates back to may house for more Jurassic fun times>>88989001You are not wrong
>>88989107stop trying to make me wanna fuck tau, I wish they looked like that but we have plenty of unfortunate evidence to the contrary
>>88989121
>>88989070Something about perfection? Maybe their 1s count as 2s, and once per phase one non-battleshocked unit can battleshock itself willingly to bump it to 3s
>>88989025I have more hope for his daughter, however
>>88989111They are pretty bulky, but I have some pf the Vraks guys and some of mad robot’s not! Vraks guys and they’re quite a bit bulkier than new cadians, too. I’m just happy to see a kit that isn’t $60 for the same dudes I already have.
>>88988406Unless you can screen them out. Hordes should be fine.
would this be good for $136?
>>88989136reminder that warhammer is inclusive space. Biggots will NOT be missed!
>>88988954You know those videos you sometimes see on youtube where it's something like "20 YEAR OLD BLOOD AND PUSS FILLED HOOVES FINALLY RELIEVED! NOT FOR THE SQUEEMISH!"That.
>>88989121Farsight will be released again of course. But the Boarding Patrol is probably done.
>>88988372This dread is the bane of my existence and I can't wait till its done and I get to have this existential crisis again making the next one. Need to get more abbadon black so I can pause for now. So now he's just sitting there, taunting me.
>>88989118I want to care for a vatborn qt who hasn't yet become numb to the horrors of comorragh, or who's too poor to die constanly and joined the ynnari. also it's my schizo canon that ynnari souls are stored in the breasts and the more important and powerful you are the bigger their milkers get.
>>88989070deadly boredom.pick a squad at the start of your turn. roll 1d. if it is 1, remove that squad from the table (they got bored and went off to do something interesting)if it is 6, that squad gets +1 for all rolls until the end of the turn (they got bored and decided to spice things up a little bit)
>>88989152>would this be good for $136?
>>88988478>, not caring about any defensive abilities except FNP BEFORE pit's only ap-1. It doesn't do mortal wounds.
>>88988997>thesearerookienumbers.jpg
>>88989158As a nogamer, would I be able to shoot that thing if I saw a part of a trinket peeking out behind a wall?
>>88989152Yeah. Those characters are like $30 minimum each by now. Whenever they go OOP they woll double in value
>>88989171Now watch GK have a leader that grants Devastating Wounds.
>>88989182Yes. 40k's line of sight rules are atrocious.
>>88989129
Are chaos knights anything special at best? I've read about how they can have unfun skew matches.
Remember the space marine supplements released at the end of 8th edition? They should release new ones in 10th edition.
>>88989182currently in 9th? yes.
>>88989152>It's time to die.Really GW?
>>88989121I unironically think the Farsight Enclaves is getting their own codex. With the return of Farsight in the lore, FE expansion, and a new model, I think we are going to see them become their own thing.
>>88989212Remind me again what his actual job is.
Finished assembling my PBC and cleaned up my lil guy a bit. Hopefully it stops raining soon and I can get actually working on the,.What are (YOU) working on /40kg/?
>>88989212This is what marinefags think is cool lmao
>>88989225He uh, kills people, with a sword, but not like other Space Marines because uh, he's got a skull cap and is a judge but it's also not like a Chaplain because uh.
>apply soul filter>remove the model picture>instantly looks better
>>88988431no, the article says they get that in addition to their storm bolters, so it’s fine as is.
>>88989225Being redudant and unwelcome like all primaris models.
>>88989225Chaplain in training
>>88989243the difference is he kills his own dudes, not the enemy
>>88989250>remove the model pictureReplace the model picture with some Kopinski art for real SOVL
>>88989129Shadowsun old. Water caste nubile and very diplomatic.
>>88989110no, they actually came out okay. The only thing on the table that fucked up were the trench rail things that were supposed to go on the back of the malcador. they were warped beyond fixability.
>>88989225Cawl decided that there needed to be something between a neophyte and a chaplain. Enter the judicar, who enforces discipline in the manner of a chaplain but gives none of the pep talks. They are also given giant hourglasses that allow them to casually warp time, which they are forced to give up upon becoming full chaplains.
>>88989219That would be great to see even if I personally doubt we will get 2 factions for Tau unless they get some space marines in their army.
>>88989285>They are also given giant hourglasses that allow them to casually warp time, which they are forced to give up upon becoming full chaplains.This doesn't make any sense.
>>88989285My god, it’s like the edgy fanfic of a 12 year old
>>88989209>I've read about how they can have unfun skew matches.anyone whining about this is a faggot. the most common armies in the game that make up 90% of the playerbase are all full of either 3+ save marines or 2+ save terminators. a fucking 500 point knight still only has a 3+ save.if someone is whining and bitching and moaning that you're a "skew list" that they don't have enough anti-tank to kill, just call them a fucking moron since a tactical marine would also be "too skew" for them to deal with. You have no excuse for losing when you bring nothing but AP0 guns and also refuse to have good melee options.This isn't older editions where you literally can't hurt vehicles with some guns, even massed lasguns are enough to bring down a titan. Actual knights lists run a bunch of Armigers as a result which are basically just dreadnoughts as a result, since they're one of the only point efficient models they have. anyone whining about knights as a skew list, ask them what their plan is if they have to shoot a fucking Rhino?
>>88989274Lucky! I'm so fucking tired of sanding resin into a perfect circle. It Never turns out 100% okay. I'll probably ask my mate to 3d print me a handful of rings because I can't take this anymore.
>>88989212>Not just a Space Marine>But a Space Marine with a BADASS SKULL HELMET AND STUFF AND HE CARRIES A HECKING AWESOME SWORD!>He also got Terminus on his blade! (that's Latin for TERMINATE! Woot!) GW truly knows their Space Marine fanbase and the manchildren behind them.
>>88989292Shut up Cawl is smarter than you
>>88989293What else can you expect about something that can be summirezed as "my space marines are better in every way than yours"?
>>88989305true, but cawls writer is not
>>88989292Designer intern thought it looked cool :^) Also skull mask och spoopy :^)
>>88989305Cawl is a nerd.
>>88988270So Grey Knights are an "elite team" right? As in they're tough and don't run a lot of units?The new edition will change things, but I'm curious, since they specialize and fighting demons and heretics of the warp, how do they fair against non-warp xenos like orks, tau, etc?
>>88989270>nubileEeeehhhhhhh
>>88989153Mega cringe
>>88989325they are literally "space marines but better"
>>88989331I wish we got some water castes units.
>>88989129You now that Shadowsun art isn't even accurate to the model, right? I'd tap her.
>>88989348That paintjob is awful.
>>88989340Nah, they are just "what if every marine in this chapter was a librarian".
GK looking strong. 2+ power armor is no joke.
>>88989355nevermind, it's the sculpt. She's got a nose for some reason
>>88989364so, marines but better? since being a psyker is a direct upgrade
>>88989355Yes but that's not relevant. Non of the Tau models suggest they are meant to look like wrinkled potatos.
>>88989369Being a psyker has serious cons so I wouldn't consider it a straight upgrade. Not any different than "this chapter only uses infantry on rhinos" or any other gimmick.
>>88989368shadowsun grew a nose to try and better find a human boyfriend
>>88988372You had fantastic gold armor and then you fucked it all up with that horrendous lightning effect on the weapons.
>>88989368It is the paintjob, they painted the shadow of the upper lip in a way that makes it look like a nose.
>>88989285completely awful drek. reminder, there are people here who will call you a fake zoomer nogames grog for thinking so
>>88989331I was referring to the above one. I do not dispute old people exist.
>>88989378>Being a psyker has serious consyeah but the pros massively outweigh them and the cons only take effect if you're a retard
>>88989379Her face has the bone structure of a sock puppet.
>>88989378>Being a psyker has serious consthat grey knights are masssive mary sues and completely bypass with their whole "no gk has ever fallen to chaos, ever" nonsense. they really are just better marines who cost more points. but custodes are better than even gk so their niche kinda got taken
>>88988270Grey Knights, last of the manlets.
>>88989129Why does that Alpha Legionnaire look like a space shark?
>>88989379I can't fucking deal with the base size creep on characters. The new model isn't really any bigger than the old one yet it went from a 25mm base to a 60mm.
>>88989389>so their niche kinda got takenexcept custodes have no psykers at all so no their niche wasn't taken
>>88989395Officially aren't they the only loyalist chapter that was allowed to refuse Primaris?
>>88989399Please understand, the tactical rock lobbyists have GW by the balls. The new drazhar is the exact same scenario lol
>>88989379I need to see this model's face painted by someone that isn't a retard hat can't paint faces like the GW team.
Rolled 3, 1, 2, 4, 5, 5, 2, 1, 2, 1, 4, 2 = 32 (12d6)Rolling my Fate Dice to use against the Dark Eldar.
>>88989399I wont deny base creep is real. But that model is way, way to big for a 25mm base.
>>88989410Maugan Ra too.
>>88989300Honestly everything but the head is fine, the head is just >what if we made a skull but then covered up everything that made it look like a skullFucking dumb
>>88988986>didn't buy a whole bunch of stuff when it was way cheaper
>>88989409hope they will become well-proportioned later on without the primaris excuse
Rolled 4, 6, 6, 3, 4, 3, 4, 5, 1, 5, 5 = 46 (11d6)>>88989428Rerolling that hot garbage.
>>88989410The new Drazhar is fucking awesome, shut up.
>>88989429I know, but it should go on a 40mm like the other stealth suits not a 60mm.
>>88989101GL bro
>>88989436It is, it just doesnt' need to stand on a giant ruin that makes his base 5 sizes larger than it should be.
>>889891013rd edition dark eldar were somehow scarier.
>>88989450He also doesn't need little tassels on his knees or massive horns on his helmet but he has them.
>>88989452You're not wrong, but 5th ed Dark Eldar are still pretty cool and aesthetically interesting.
>>88989452I vastly prefer their current space pirate aesthetic to DUDE REMEMBER HELLRAISER, GW already fucking pillage enough from pop culture scifi without resorting to straight up plagiarism
>>88989478That's completely irrelevant to the point of base size creep.
>>88989478without the horns you wouldn't even be able to tell he's not just a regular incubi. now, this is partly because regular incubi already look so fucking cool they could be hero characters individually, but the giant base and horns mostly exist so you can spot which is the 150 point HQ unit and which is a 1-wound 18 point elite
>>88989452Ehh
>>88989325they are psykers of varying power whose most special trait is that none of them have ever been corrupted by chaos. they arent physically bigger or stronger than firstborn space marines, so they fight about as well into other factions
>>88989325>>88989528I don't think a lot of people have noticed even "basic" grey knights have a 2+ armor save.
>>88989504>Cover literally shows a decapitated head being waved with a look of agony on his face.
>>88988372Finished Nubeakie scaling my sternguard. I haven't magnetized other weapons yet. Waiting for index and I haven't looked at kill team yet. I think I'll do grassland and goblin green bases.
>>88989113You know, it still irks me that Dark Eldar don't have a single power fist equivalent when the iconic original Archon has a huge power claw.Although I guess a S+3 weapon is pretty much the same as a Sx2 when the whole army is S3
>>88989504That's brutal
>>88989504If they had remade these kabalites to be closer to the art than the original shitty 3rd edition plastics, they'd look a lot scarier than the current kabalites.
>>88989125Even this guy has hope. If 0.1% of his plastic is painted he's still doing better than a fair number of posters here.
On second thought, maybe wearing a man's face over my helmet like Leatherface was a stupid idea because I can't see shit.
>>88989504>>88989452I think there is a place for both looks, and higher ranking Archons and Incubi Exarchs should have more of their 3E character in their helmets at the very least.More of a Black Metal Fantasy look really wouldn't hurt to add to the Dark Kin.
>>88989652What are you talking about? His head is up there!
>>88989153>us Black Templarsholy shit
>>88989153I play BT precisely because they are the SS chapter.
Is it just me or is there weirdly a lot of Dark Eldar fans in his general?I feel like they are way, way rarer out in the field and I have never seen anyone collect them but I see lots of models posted here. Like, a disproportionately large number of models posters. More than CWE players for sure, even though they are supposedly more numerous.
>>88989699Superior taste.
>>889896994chan is basically the Commoragh of the internet.
>>88989699I like evil factions, I play 5/6 of the Chaos armies, I play Drukhari, and I play BT - so even my good guys are bad guys.
>>88989699Probably more likely that more Deldar fans want to discuss 40k because their rules preview is tomorrow. The majority of the posting pool probably don’t come here every day.
>>88989699>>88989707>>88989706They're just barely too edgy for general consumption, which makes them perfect for this cesspit of edgelords.
>>88989699Dark Eldar are hard not to like. They're evil and they love it, you gotta respect that.
>>88989748Maybe the "younger" ones love it, but the older ones are like millennia old heroin addicts who need holocaust amounts of pain to feel/absorb anything. They know they're basically damned because the only alternative is being eaten by Slaanesh.
>>88989698>>88989679I copped the BT army box for like $100 but I cant make up my mind if they are the reddit/secondary fation or giga based
>>88988597That's aesthetic as fuck, wish there was more of that in 40k rather than digital art that looks ai made even though it isn't
>>88988638>baldThat just means you're free to greenstuff whatever style you wantgo with final fantasy spikey hair
>>88989219Nah, it will be closer to an "Army of Renown".
>>88989775>the older onesThey have fun.
>>88989850will that even be a thing in 10th?
>>88989748>red letter media fanCringe consoomer
>>88989219It's going to be a detachment in the Tau codex if anything, just like Ynnari and Harlequins in the CWE dex.
>>88989862Probably not. I get the feeling it’ll just be a special detachment.
>>88989888>cringe anti feels the need to make his opinion knownlol
>>88989862Detachments/subfactions are shifting towards specialized roles rather then "Chapters", so a Farsight themed Detachment would just restrict certain units while opening up better Suit roles
>>88989748>you gotta respect that.no the fuck I don't, I despise people who are aware of their evil and continue to be so regardless
>>88989699In a world continually rife with Chaos daddy issues and "tragic," wax poetic backstories the soul vampire Elves who do evil because it's funny have become more and more appealing, I think. Chaos has its place but it really feels like you can't play them as evil retards without some Black Library nut hanging over your shoulder about muh Heresy or philosophy these days.
>>88989902Yes, much better to play Imperial factions who don't even realize they're evil
>>88989824Furries are ass mad, good a bunch of pedo shits, fuck em. Why the fuck are furries even in 40K in the first place?
>>88989916imperial factions are not evil, I will not fall for the lies of chaos or the GW marketing department
Reposting this here as well for better coverage: Do the melee/ranged upgrade sprues for Contemptor and Leviathan Dreadnoughts come with assembly instructions?
>>88989699Dark Eldar let me run an entire army of lockable elf midriff so why wouldn't I play them? For the models posting I think part of it is they simply have cooler models than CWE, even the decade+ old shit has held up better and they're incredibly easy to kitbash and convert (and many of their units literally require conversion or kitbash since they're out of production) speaking of posting models here's my commorrite kill-team/hekatrix bloodbrides
>>88988270The Emperor would NEVER sexualize the sisters of silence! They're brave and honorable warriors worthy of a lot of respect and veneration. Besides, he has Erda with whom he copulates like a fucking beast.
>>88989699DE players are usually pretty chill to play against
Built up my Necron Elite Edition dudes. Built them with the short range guns this time. Which ones do you guys prefer?
Help me /tg/I want to sell my old armies to make room for something new. How do I figure out pricing? Should I sell it as one army or split it up?
>>88989978Just do an auction, set the price to 75% of what you paid for them (adjusted for inflation) and people will go above that. Even if the paint jobs are shitty people will either just appreciate having finished models or repaint them themselves.
>>88989978Go for like 70% of purchasing price and try to split it up
>>88989699Dark Eldar are chads, who have little to no morals.Such a thing is refreshing
>>88989699I like Deldar because there are pirates and pirates are cool :)
I wish Alan Bligh was still around, the setup for the Siege of Cthonia makes no sense. Why would Dorn send any of his forces away from Terra?
So are there Chaos Primaris yet?
Whoever recommended I use insect mesh for wire fences, you're a god.>Sirens blare>A cold fog covers the area>Massive sinkhole ahead, probably some sort of bomb opened a kilometer wide hole>Covered in large mesh flooring pieces>This creature comes out of the fogWhat do you do.
>>88990037>Why would Dorn send any of his forces away from Terra?that ship sailed when the fucking custodes left man, if even the emperor's bodyguards are mobilized en masse it'd be dumb for the wall autists not to get off their ass too
>>88990054chaos already have primaris. they are called possessed/berzerkers/noise marines/plague marines/rubric marines/obliterators. chaos has been upgrading its marines for as long as they've been around
i love the fuckin death guard bros
>>88990080rip
>>88990056hey that's my brother in law ricky. nice guy, really good at bar trivia and arm wrestling. a lot uglier than his sister though lemme tell you, clearly she got all the lion's share of the hot genestealer genetics. Boy the thing she does with her tongue is just wow. Anyways say hi to him for me, I'll see him at the Sunday barbecue along with the rest of the inlaws
>>88990037It happens way before the Siege of Terra
>>88989968The reapers have generally been better overall. I still like flayers for some flavor though
>>88990084to be fair i was thinking about this the other day and realistically what do i care for rulesi only play with 3-4 people, and we play rarely because setting up warhammer games is a bit of a pain. so most of the time i just paint
>>88990056Wrong neighborhood
>>88990056Mesh floor gives Silent Hill vibes.Which is a good thing
>>88989968Gauss Blasters
>>88990120I don't want to repeat it too much because I've been mentioning it in every thread for a while but my plan is to do an entire Silent Hill army.Been looking up Masahiro Ito art and stuff.
>>88990140Do some Silent Hill looking Tyranids that your GSC guys worship
>>88990109realistically, they will probably still be okay on the table. im sure the balance team will adjust the points and tweak the numbers so they are able to land in that 50% winrate zone, or close enough to it.the problem is that its an army that has traditionally had a durability mechanic, usually a 5+ feel no pain save, but in the last edition a -1 damage buff, to augment their troops in addition to their high toughness. now it appears they have stripped out that thematic element entirely. its the equivalent of if they just suddenly removed necrons reanimation from the army all together, its a core part of their identity, and sure you could balance them to still be good without it, but it feels like somethings missing. as far as the models go though, you really cant go wrong. all fully modern plastics, well sculpted (even if some people dont like the overly mutated look of the new models), and a decent variety of daemon engines and finally a new plastic daemon prince
>>88989968I agree with the other anon that reapers generally get shit done better, although they require a few more brain cells to use. But Necrons are not lacking in ways to put a blob of Warriors where they want, especially once 10th comes out and you can just slurp them up with a Monolith.
>>88990155I personally plan on dumping Immortals and Lychguard with a Monolith, last time I bought a larger model though was a Land Raider in 2010 for 45 bucks so seeing the price tag on Nu Monoliths had me sticker shocked. Of course though its (((good now)))
>>88990150already working on it.
>>88988994This edition is going to get a surprise traitor guard codex, right? Or will there at least be renegades and heretics support via an Imperial Armour book? >The damned is including a tankThis is a first for WGA.
>>88990179You could even make some /yourdudes/ lore that the psychic influence of the Tyranids creates a mysterious fog and confuses the weak minded into thinking they're in an inescapable area and that the Tyranids and GSC warp and shift into their enemy's phobias or traumas.
>>88990204>via an Imperial Armour book?Bro, they just announced those are dead forever. Forge World is only making giant models that are too big for the main GW studio now, and specialist games stuff for Necromunda and Horus Heresy.On the bright side GW will be remaking some of the old resin IA stuff in plastic and it will be in actual codexes now instead of some pseudo-3rd party thing in a separate book.
>Teleports 9 inches behind you
>>88990074>chaos has been upgrading its marines for as long as they've been aroundYeah but I'm talking about actual Primaris turning to Chaos in the lore.
>ashes of faith box hasn’t shipped froM GW yetLast time this happened they gave me a 40 dollar voucher
Has anyone tried coming the new aegis defense line terrain with the old trench terrain?
>>88990216I don't care.
>>88990216Do you think the primaris Phobos unit will be able to just jam their teleport? My buddy saw the grey knight rules and says he wants to start them now and I think it would be hilarious if I can just jam up his whole special teleport thing
>>88990216>uses Overwatch in the movement phase and auto-hits you with a billion flamespurt attacks
>>88990228>Has anyone tried comingI know I have
>>88990216>Necrons vs Grey Knights
>>88990221i thought that was the whole point of the primaris procedure is it rendered the marine immune to chaos corruption
>>88990233Uh oh, old model detected. Removed from Codex in 10th.
>>88990242Yeah with a whole new plastic kit lol
>>88990215>GW will be remaking some of the old resin IA stuff in plasticProofs?
>>88990231Probably, I can’t imagine horde lists of Orks, Guard or Tyranids having much issue screening them out entirely. This ability will shine in the later turns though.
>>88990247Nope. Its gone.
>>88990251Their article? Your reading WarCom reps, bro?https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/05/18/warhammer-40000-and-forge-world-legends-and-last-chance-to-buy/
>>88990257Nah its not a manlet model, Xenos models will go on for decades.
>>88990228Combining*
>>88990257>he thinks there isn't a plastic biovore/pyrovore dual-kit coming among the 15 fucking kits nids are getting with their codexLol, lmao
>>88990215Well that honestly sucks. I'm still hoping for traitor guard as we already got a Kill Team and Black Stone Fortress forces models so there should be a codex of traitor guardsmen. Did GW wait until plastic could be as detailed as FW resin for this to happen? I always thought FW made models too detailed for GW plastic to encapsulate.
My only army is Tau at the moment.What Imperium Army should I look into possibly getting?
>>88990279Auxiliaries
>>88990153>GKs got more defensive buffs than DG did
>>88990279do you want something similar to tau or completely new?
Just heard the news OrkbrosRIP big fella>Don't you, forget about me>Don't, don't, don't, don't>Don't you, forget about me
>>88990279Imperial Guard>most homebrew leg room of Imperial Factions>good choice of third party/3D printing STLs for extra bits>No marine autism fanbase>No endless marinewank from GW
>>88990291New of course. The new GK preview had me curious about Imperium and GK. I WAS thinking DG next but...But god damn do I hate Nemesis Dreadnoughts. I love Contemptors though.
>>88990305I'd be surprised if GK don't get a hefty model revamp with their codex this edition now that GW has stopped pretending they aren't updating Firstborn.
Grey Knights being able to teleport constantly sounds like pure cancer
>>88990305>I hate Nemesis Dreadnoughtsyou have shit taste
No Psykers Allowed chapter is cooler than Oops! All Psykers chapter.
>>88990233If you're going to put a flamer in the middle of your army to randomly spooge over people that make the mistake of walking within 18", go for the big one at least.
>>88990305GK are pretty different from tau, not too good shooting, melee focus, psychic and more elite army instead of low cost troops
>>88990339Too bad BTs are just going to be vanilla marines with a few unique units for a while.
>>88990333Man, I remember when they announced the Nemesis, everyone was making fun of them.
>>88990339objectively incorrect, psykers are cooler than non psykers by default
If I’m gonna get started on my pic rel do I need to use a dark blue or can I get away with applying copious amounts of nuln oil all over the armor? I don’t want to buy a pot of Kantor blue or tediously mix black and blue to get the same shade>>88990279Space marines of course
>>88990347yeah, might wait and see if they get a range refresh like >>88990317 suggested.What do Custodes have as their "thing" over GK though? Because right now GK seem much more interesting?
>>88990365>What do Custodes have as their "thing" over GK though?even more elite, no psykers
>>88990339>No Psykers Allowed chapter is coolerIce cold, even.
>>88990317>I'd be surprised if GK don't get a hefty model revamp with their codex this edition now that GW has stopped pretending they aren't updating Firstborn.prepare to be surprised. with Votaan part 2, the Obvious Emperor's Children being released Druhkari Coven models being redone. I am sure they will not get to GK for another 2 years at best.
>>88990328In any game mode with significant terrain and obstacles they are hilariously overpowered.As an example, imagine playing against the 10th edition grey knights during a Boarding Patrol game, where your army is still stuck opening fucking doors and moving down tight corridors and cucked by walls and LOS, while the Grey Knights are effectively fucking noclip map hacking their way straight to the objective and can flank you through walls by teleporting right next to all your squishy ranged units.They're actually fucking disgusting but because it's not a meme mortal wound spam or some big number/reroll mechanic brainlets are completely failing to comprehend how retarded this shit will be in actual play. Every single battlefield needs to be designed with permanent Naruto Shadow Clone teleportation in mind or they just instantly break the game
>>88990037>Why would Dorn send any of his forces away from Terra?To stall Horus by forcing him to reconquer his homeworld and gain more time for Terra, duh
>>88990339How do these guys play? I know they like melee so do they just fall into SW/BA archetype? Are they mostly made up of regular SM units or their unique BT kits?
>>88990360You sound pretty cocky for someone within crusading distance.
>>88990380None of those are Loyalist Space Marines, bro.
>>88990394you sound cocky for a man who just lost his armour save
>>88990365>What do Custodes have as their "thing" over GK though?Even better statlines, nominally better shooting, no psykers at all.
>>88990394jesus christ please take your butt plug and larp somewhere else. I would honestly, take Custodes over Black Templar because of the player base BT attract.can you go play Pan-O Military Orders or something?
>>88990388You play BT because omnicidal Space Knights are bad ass and way cooler than the Grey Knights. Grey is just a weaker version of Black
>>88990261Doesn't say anything about remaking old models. Only that new models will be in plastic
>>88990382>or they just instantly break the gameJust charge them bro.They disappear at the end of their opponent's turn, so they can't fall back and then teleport.
>>88990416YWNBAW
>>88990416YEAH THAT'S RIGHT CHUD! STOP BEING A HECCIN NEO NAZI BLACK TEMPLAR AND PLAY LITERAL SPACE DYSTOPIA CATHOLIC NAZIS INSTEAD!
>>88990388be warned, you will regret playing Black Templar and then be embarrassed as more people find out you play black templar
>>88990416chill homie, let people have fun
>>88990427once you're in charge distance the teleporting isn't an issue. The problem is you can't charge through fucking walls and doors and they can, and THEY are the ones who want to put all their big beefy grey knight melee profiles onto YOU.
>>88990209I already have the lore sort of thought out. Their planet is foggy and dark, there are rare storms of rust promoting dusts, and there's massive sinkholes covered in wire mesh as a result of archeotech bombs, the cult has had control for years now as a result of their fleet being tangled up and depleted and unable to reach them so they've been falling deeper and deeper into religous insanity and fervor. I don't want to do typical "it copies your fears" stuff because the hive mind is much more directly hostile, the town of silent hill always felt like a more neutral reflection of the people in there. Silent hill in general is actually not that dangerous when you think about it, just emotionally traumatizing.
its time to put lutein on speaker and tuck myself into bed lads
Kan ready Fer paint boss.
>>88990434Embarrassing. BT players are like that annoying kid in the group who tries to be cool and when they fail they spend thirty minutes explain what part of the autist spectrum they are on instead of just admitting they are fucking losers and growing from that
>>88990295Kromlech makes some ork bikers if that helps make you feel better.Their base sizes are different and they have gretchin sidecars if that's a turnoff.I think the Deffkilla Wartrike is meant to be the replacement to the warboss on bike as the description has a "speedboss" mentioned in it.
>>88989928>you have been told since Rogue Trader that the Imperium is an institution of oppression, tyranny, and meaningless cruelty that is collapsing under the weight of its own soulless bureaucracy and ruled by heartless monsters who will gladly sacrifice the lives of trillions to preserve their own fleeting pleasure>"No, it is GW who is wrong"
>>88990472That was really oddly specific anon.
>>88990472I'm just hearing a lot of projection here pal
God I love all the chicken littles every time there's a new army rule. GK are a mostly melee chapter, they can't teleport out of melee. If you want to bitch about something, try bitching about the fact that they get 2+ armor. That's pretty nuts.
>Tau get shit on because they're not "evil" enough for the setting>Yet people pretend the Imperium are the "good guys" and get mad when you suggest other wise.
>>88990482problem is if not the imperium, then who? there's not some better option. if the choice is between ghenghis khan and being raped in gigahell by literally satan and his barbed dick, don't be surprised when people suddenly decide that horse archery and goatmilk aren't so bad.
>>88990482No part of Rogue Trader says it is meaningless cruelty, rather that the circumstances of the galaxy are so grim that all brutal acts of the Imperium are fully justified for humanity's own survival.
>>88990495Communism is pretty evil on it's own anon, but it sounds great in theory - just like the Tau.
>>88989985>>88989986thanks friends. I can always count on you.
>>88990495tau are shit on for being hypocritical blue fucks who are also naïve to the wider world around them the imperium are the good guys, yes
>>88990495Tau aren't human.
>>88990492>GK are a mostly melee chapter, they can't teleport out of melee.anon the whole point is they will be teleporting to get INTO melee. or will be teleporting over obstacles and terrain to leave you in the dust and racking up victory points.
>>88990487>>88990490no, it is really specific because about three or four months ago I was at a tourney and this exact fucking this happened between rounds as myself and a couple other random players were having a smoke.
>>88989434>psychic powers caused them to get bigger
>>88990522they could unironically say this and it wouldn't even be lore breaking
>>88990506Nowhere in Rogue Trader is it claimed that the Imperium's backwards and failing governance of humanity is "necessary"The cope that the Imperium is "necessary" is nu-lore made up by manchildren who can't accept that the Emperor was always wrong
The real good guys and protagonists of the setting have always been Rogue Traders. they're what the setting is named after, they're the "I do what I want lmao" heroes who can have a crew full of space alien babes and wacky xeno technology because they've got a signed permission slip to do whatever they want from the emperor himself, they're the colorful rogues who go out and be space pirates and adventurers in a vast galaxy.
>>88990517Shoot the choppy things and chop the shooty things. Simple as.
>>88990495>Tau get shit on because they're not "evil" enough for the settingI have never heard that. the commie thing is funny and has a lot of truth to it but the real reason no one likes to t''''''''''''''''''''''''au is because they are really boring to play on the table and in the lore. they removed the entire Psychic phase from the game.... and they still have to deal with the other phase they ignore.
>>88990539>The real good guys and protagonists of the setting have always been Rogue Traders.Go back to fucking your Eldar wife, Trader.
>>88990520Alright my brother in autism. You gotta give us the story in greentext form, please.
>>88990545
If a blank kills a norn queen does it still cause nearby norn queens to reproduce?
>>88990545search your feelings, you know it to be true
>>88990565I didn't say you were wrongI just told you to go back to doing what every RT does
>>88990538Bro don't embarrass yourself I could probably mine an endless amount of material from the 6 years of RT core book, splat books, side games, white dwarf articles etcYou're probably some newfag who started in 5th edition at the EARLIEST and get your info from redditors and youtubers.
>>88990517GK have traditionally but only second to Custodes in points cost per unit. They're strong but there aren't a lot of them.
>>88990472>BT players are like that annoying kid in the group who tries to be cool and when they fail they spend thirty minutes explain what part of the autist spectrum they are on instead of just admitting they are fucking losers and growing from thatThat hit me so close to home that it got me between the eyes. Except I play Imperial Guard.>t. depressed 20s autism stereotype wreck I go for walks to cope
The real good guys and protagonists of the setting have always been Alpha Legion. They're what the setting is named after, they're the "I do what I want lmao" heroes who can be a part of any faction and get any wacky xeno technology because they're got the right traits and personality to do whatever they want from the Emperor himself, they're the colorful marines who go out and be space spies and adventurers in a vast galaxy
>>88990539>"I do what I want lmao">heroesretard shut the fuck up
I wish they would come out with an "imperial citizens" box. Just like 20-40 various imperial citizens, civilians, servitors, and random doodads like data terminals so you could decorate your terrain and objective markers and shit and make the table feel a bit more alive, or give your evil races like chaos and dark eldar some slaves to capture.
>>88990473I’ll just miss playing him. Nowhere was safe. Will try him as a Deff Killa with my mates in 10th and maybe pick one up if I like it.
>>88990592yes
>>88990583Can you read? Nothing in that excerpt claims that what the Imperium has become is in any way necessary. Reminder that the Emperor himself despises what has become of his Imperium, and it could have been a thousand times more stable, prosperous, less corrupt, and considerably more powerful if not for the incompetence and belligerance of a few.
>>88990607just play GSC without the heavily mutated ones
>>88990054Yes, but only in Angron's crew.
>>88990607Or just go 3d printing?
>sm terminators updatedWhat does this mean for us, greyqueens?
>>88990628It literally states outright that the Inquisition is necessary. You're clearly the one who cannot read."Any ends justify a means so vital and so endangered."Here's another one.
>>88990548I am not green texting that shit. fuck that tourney too. I fucking whiffed 5 Psychic powers in round two of game two and I just don't want to think about that day.
>>88990634Most STL makers are too busy making making marines, Krieg proxies, Tau waifus and ForgeWorld copies. Only way to get them to actually make what you want is to find an STL maker who takes commissions and pay them to get what you want done.
>>88990645means you'll be ignored as always, same as when primaris dropped
>>88990394>primarisyou've already lost.
>>88990364You’d ideally start with a dark blue, then slowly add very thinned down layers of blue until you begin to see the blue coming through the darkness near the edges you care about.
>>88990628>Reminder that the Emperor himself despises what has become of his ImperiumLove it when retards claim that Emps didn't want to be worshipped as a god.Yeah the guy who was bathed in golden light.Who had glorious golden armor.Who wore a fucking HALOWho adopted Catholic and gothic architectureWho regularly performed miraclesWho depicted himself as a giant to everyoneWho had a literal winged angel as a sonUnless the Emperor was actually literally retarded and had zero prescience ability, he knew exactly what he was doing.
>>88990545>Go back to fucking your Eldar wife, Trader.pathetic.
>>88990651>>88990583I find it funny how chaos is not even mentioned
>>88990624Based.
>>88990221Yeah, a ton fell to Khorne when Angron hit a psychic beacon so hard that Khorne himself channeled through it to infect an entire subsector. The only ones who didn't fall to chaos were Custodes and Grey Knights. (This includes Sororitas.)
>>88990689Yeah it didn't actually exist yet, but all that "psychic aliens feeding on life-force and opening portals" type stuff was the precursor to daemons.
>>88989227Got some colors on the warriors and some of the genestealers. Need to figure out the basing scheme next
>>88990651It literally does not state the Inquisition is necessary. It talks about the dangers of rogue psykers who are, as proven by the very same setting, able to be collected and safely disposed of or harnessed for the greater benefit of all. You do not need Inquisitors to find psykers. In fact, Inquisitors are almost never the ones who root out rogue psykers, it's the locals who collect them and deliver them to the Black Ships, lorelet.>The survival of the Emperor fed by psyker sacrificesIs again still irrelevant to the Imperium itself being incompetently managed and a crumbling, festering shitpile that fails even the most basic definition of functional government. There is no reason why the Imperium as a whole must be terrible, but it is, and even the Emperor himself knows it did not have to be this way.
>>88990693I don't consider anything written after Gathering Storm to be canon because it all sounds retarded.
>>88990693>The only ones who didn't fall to chaos were Custodes and Grey Knights.and the SoS who are all blanks, obviously. presumably any other blanks on other ships were also fine, although they have a hell of a time escaping the now insane fleets lmao. a culexus can just go invisible and walk out I guess
>>88990645>greyqueens?the fuck
>>88990677Read The Last Church and Master of Mankind, lorelet.
>>88990388Their thing is breaking how normal marine units work and having a big squad of scouts + tacticals/intercessors (optionally all melee) and having a selection of army wide buffs that come with restrictions. Of course that's in 9th, who knows how they'll work or if they'll even exist in rules in 10th.
>>88990712Sure, but I also sort of grouped them in with Custodes because they're part of the same army.
>>88990726They weren't until 9th which made me so mad. Thankfully GW learned.
>>88990706Read the passages moron. Try using your eyes.
>>88990708That's nice.
>>88990719>calls himself fucking REVELATION>doesnt want to be a godyeah nah youre a fucking tard
>>88990677>Unless the Emperor was actually literally retarded and had zero prescience ability, he knew exactly what he was doing.please understand, he was an anatolian greek and just thought that shit was cool.
>>88990733>Thankfully GW learned.
>>88990701One of the genestealers up close. They're not bad, I think I scaled em too big though, they kind of hang over their 32s
>>88990754thanks doc
>>88990712>>88990693There were also a bunch of sororitas that weren't affected and I imagine Marines with good enough willpower, but of course they didn't last long now surrounded completely by raging madmen
>>88990750They've been together the past two editions so they are good for now. Bananas need their wives and the baldies need their husbands. Like the Emperor intended.
>>88990688Do not fuck the genestealer magus Trader, this is literally the definition of child support trap.
>>88990734Nothing you're claiming is supported by any of your passages. Furthermore, your claims are irrelevant to my point, which is that the Imperium is a pile of shit. The Inquisition and the Emperor needing to consume psykers isn't even related to how horrible the governance is, which is hard canon that even you can't dispute. There is no need for so much corruption all around, but it exists because nobody can actually stop it at this point.
So THIS is the power of 40k?
>>88990746>can't even reply to the right post>calls other people tard
>>88990779I will risk fleeting pleasure to a lifetime of solitude.
>>88990677>I have been his Sigillite long enough to know that he is aware of how he looks. He so detests this unfortunate aspect: a golden king, idle upon a golden throne. He dislikes seeming to be the very thing he has emphatically opposed. I have always known him to be very deliberate in his presentation. Over the millennia, he has worn many masks, each suitable to the task at hand. His mind, his greatest gift, allows him significant flexibility in such things. He has appeared as male or female, or neither, as child or elder, peasant or king, magician or fool. He has been an entire cartomantic arcana, for the Master of Mankind is also a master of disguise. He has performed all of these roles well, with delicacy. He has been humble when humility was needed, gentle when softness was the best device, sly, amiable, reassuring, commanding, caring. He has been terrible when terror was the only recourse, and sometimes meek in order to inherit the Earth. He has been whomever and whatever it has been necessary to be. No one has ever seen his true face, or learned his true name.>Not even me. I have known him by as many names as he has worn masks, and by as many faces. It occurs to me, belatedly, in this last hour of the final act, that perhaps, just like everyone else, I have only ever seen what he has allowed me to see. Perhaps, even if this room was filled with a multitude, I would still be the only one who would see a golden king upon a golden throne, the only one for whom those fingers would appear to tremble.>The notion is amusing that even now, after all we have shared, he still hides from me.
>>88990769N
>>88990216*Overwatches with warpflamers*
>>88990797>Titties not hanging outthere is no commitment from Cosplayers anymore is there?
Incels mouth water of THIS?
>>88990783>Nothing you're claiming is supported by any of your passages.It is, you're just doing typical cognitive dissonance mental gymnastics that people of your political persuasion always do to try and deny the evidence directly before your eyes, and then making claims that aren't backed up by a single screenshot of canon text.I mean hell right here your own argument contradicts itself and falls apart.>but it exists because nobody can actually stop it at this pointIf no one can stop it how is it a choice on anyone's part? If it's not a choice it isn't evil.
>>88990817>>88990797It's friday night you're better than this.
Why do BT get so much hate on tg? They get way more than UM or DA.
and THIS?
>>88990830because they attract the absolute worst fucking fans
>>88990808>He has appeared as male or female, or neitherEmperor is trans non-binary? holy based
>>88990830because they're so fucking cringe honestlyoh you like purging and have knightly themes? yeah so does every other space marine chapter they just aren't autistic about it
>>88990808yes yes well done malacador HOWEVER you still admit that you only see what he wants you to see.would it not be useful to the Emperor, to appear to you as if he did not wish to be a god? surely if you knew he truly wished to be a god, you wouldn't have been at his side the entire time. You can't trust what anyone in 40k says, even Malcador. Maybe especially not Malcador.
>>88990835I thought that was the Imperial Guard.
>>88990852how about the part where his one fucking rule for lorgar was "NO GODS" and then when he broke that rule he burned his fucking homeworld and said "WHAT DID I FUCKING SAY?!"
>>88988411Hey retard, instead of wishing for things that won't happen just start asking for 1000 or 1500 point games
>>88990607buy necromunda and don't glue in the guns.buy gsc and use normal heads.you got options.
>>88990828You're better than liking this fandom, incel.
The Empreror isn't stupid he knows those characteristics are what makes people attracted to gods. Doesn't mean he wants to be one or people to think they exist. He just wants humanity to appropriate those elements.
>>88990863personally I hope the combat patrol game mode ends up being good/fun, I much prefer smaller battle sizes in general and enjoy skirmish shit like killteam/mordheim
>>88990873I like little plastic men what makes you think I like women? They are scary.
>>88990831The previous pics you posted were lame but this one, girl on the right, hundred percent ratified codex-compliant cutie.
>>88990817>>88990831>>88990873>>88990797>they still photoshops any natural blemishes from their face to look youthfulI mean, this is literally one of the few setting having from Wrinkle scars and other natural shit on their face and they CAN'T resist that "I need to be young forever" mindset... holy shit
>>88990880Yeah a lot of the same symbols are also symbols of imperial authority, and while big e didn't want to be a god, he did (and HAD to, really) want to be a symbol of absolute authoritarian rule, he was humanity's united leader and most gifted scientist and most powerful fucking space wizard.
>>88990861And then shock and horror and total surprise when Lorgar *for some reason* betrayed him? No, I don't actually believe Emperor was that retarded, though it is possible he may have been. The Emperor specifically set up a few of his sons to betray him, I think that is undeniable (unless you subscribe to the valid theory that he was just a retard).Notably: Lorgar, Angron, Mortarion. All of whom he had great opportunities to make love/appreciate him but at every choice decided to make them want to betray him.
>>88990873Sir we play wargames with plastic army men here.
>>88990898Ok fattie
>>88990902>MortyExamples?
>>88989219Unique detachment that lets you use Crisis Suits as battleline. Absolutely not getting a unique codex this edition when they're pulling back on unique codices in general.
I’m not sure how I feel about GK preview. I’m even more interested now that they have fucking every-turn teleportation. Their models are just so old. How long has it been since GK got an update? I remember my college roommate buying some GK around 6th edition and getting that big Dreadknight model everyone seems to hate.
>>88990919morty told emps specifically not to kill his adoptive father and big E did it anyway
>>88990881Why aren't you just playing Boarding Actions then? They plan to keep it going through 10th too apparently.
>>88990902Mortarion was and is just a bitter cunt mad that he had to be saved from his own stubbornness.
>>88990930>How long has it been since GK got an update?Since 5th edition, not counting the one named character they got updated in 9th.
>>88990919That time when Emps killed morty's step dad and denied him revenge
>>88990495>the envious hate those who succeed
>>88990934>>88990948How would this have fixed all his sons getting super magic aids?
>>88990934Big E let him try and he failed. He would have died if the Emperor hadn't intervened because he's so absurdly stubborn that he fucks himself over again and again and again.Even 10,000 years later he's fucking himself over because he's a stubborn idiot.
>>88990935>Why aren't you just playing Boarding Actions then?I am, but boarding actions themselves have a lot of restrictions that are kind of weird and not evenly applied (abaddon can come with a dozen cultists but celestine can't fit her wings through doors? really? tau can bring battlesuits but I can't bring scourges?)
>>88990934Morty was being a fucking manchild retard with daddy issues.The only thing Emps ever did wrong was not just killing Lorgar and liquefying his legion after being repeatedly disobeyed.
>>88990861>create a demigod son>instill him with a desire to spread faith and a need to worship a higher power>get mad when he worships his godlike father as a god>surprised when he turns to other gods after you rebuke him and destroy everything he strived to create
>>88990945Is there any hope to see some model revitalization in GK? I already collect one old model army, I don’t want a second.
>>88990976I feel like you people are forgetting Primarchs aren't toddlers and should be capable of rational thought.
>>88990970>The only thing Emps ever did wrong was not just killing Lorgar and liquefying his legion after being repeatedly disobeyed.But he would've been in the wrong to do that. He wanted the Heresy. Maybe not specifically Horus or Magnus to betray him and perhaps even others were unexpected as well, but I believe that he intentionally setup some Legions to betray him for some reason.
>>88990911okay, but do you think sister give a single fuck about any kind of foundation outside of the emperor?I like accurate cosplay, even if you photoshop the scar and marks on their face but you can tell they did the opposite. dryskin, red eyes fucking ANYTHING related to being in battle in the horrors of the 41M...
>>88990980>Is there any hope to see some model revitalization in GK?Yes, it's been about long enough I would expect they might get redone in 10th. That could still be up to 3 years out though...
>>88990984I can't blame them, the writers have made them to be effectively superhuman teenagers throwing tantrums.
>>88990984They are still bound by the genetic flaws and impulses implanted in them by their father
What army should I play if I want to be a snowflakeI was initially think DEldar but they seem pretty popularGuard or Sisters maybe?
>>88990988That's just cope to justify BLs terrible writing.
>>88990996That's not an excuse. Lots of people have intrusive thoughts or compulsive impulses, but not all of them act on them.
>>88991004None of those are snowflakey enough.You want something like Harlequins.
>>88991008It's all cope to justify awful writing. But I have fun shit posting and coping.
>>88991004>I was initially think DEldar but they seem pretty popularthey are unironically one of the least popular armies in the game and haven't gotten new models since 5th edition
>>88991004Your own OC chapter that is descended from the loyalists of a traitor legion that was exceptionally zealous in hating the Emperor, like Word Bearers or Sons of Horus.
>>88991021That's fair, brother.
>>88990852>‘You think of Him as a god.’>‘I know He…’ she began. Her voice dropped. ‘I know what I know.’>‘You know what He wants you to know, dear.’>‘The Emperor has denied every attempt,’ she said carefully, ‘to apotheosise Him.’>‘Let me share a secret with you, Euphrati,’ said Fo, leaning forward, beckoning to her. ‘There are no gods. That’s the first thing. If there were, they would operate in silent and measureless mystery, their ways too sublime for us to perceive. But there are those who would have you believe they are gods. Who, I should say, want to be gods. And the first step they take to that end? They deny themselves. They assume a humble attitude and declare, “I am not a god… even though you might think I am.” It is a psychological pathway to foster faith. I saw Him begin it all those years ago. I knew that, one day, He would be proclaimed a god. He is, after all, immensely powerful. He will become a god whether He likes it or not. Godhood is the ultimate tool of control. It is the pinnacle of tyranny. Faith drives your followers. Blind faith. You no longer have to make any sense at all, no longer have to justify your actions. You are followed blindly. If, like Him, you do not care to be criticised or doubted, it is a state to be wished for.’>‘He has denied–’ Keeler began.>‘Yet you still believe! This is my point! The more He denies it, the more you believe! You do not judge the fact that He is, at heart, human, you embrace the lack of fact, because blind faith comforts you. Tell me, does He tell you, any of you, what His plan is? His scheme?’>‘No.’>‘There you go. Because then you would understand. Anything that is easy enough to understand is not powerful enough to be worshipped. A history of religion should show you this.’
>>88991031this is the real answer. don't even make it one of the plausible loyalist traitors (like blood ravens being basically confirmed as 1k sons, or something straight upcanon like loyalist alpha legion warbands), make it something psychotic like loyalist night lords
Why aren't you playing Boltgun
>>88991068it makes me sick
>>88990961>Still no answerGuess there was nothing Emps could have done
>>88991068My laptop's model is a decade old and I don't own a home video game console.
>>88991004Your own OC traitor Custodes
>>88991043>But there are those who would have you believe they are gods. Who, I should say, want to be gods. And the first step they take to that end? They deny themselves.>A history of religion should show you this.This just isn't true. A history of religion would show you that people who come to be worshipped as gods usually preach that they are such or have someone do it for them after death.
Never really read much lore behind Alpha Legion, but the idea of grey-area allegiance tickles my fancy. Are they canonically considered heretics or are they just double agents that prefer to play both sides?
>>88991086it's a boomer shooter, your laptop can almost definitely run it
>>88991004Traitor Guard
>>88991068because I'm fucking painting models. What about you? Why aren't you painting your models?
>>88991098Don't even bother. GW made the memes about them being le epic double triple crossing loyalist traitor loyalists canon so the whole thing is just a total clusterfuck and I hope they never let the AL do anything or bring back Omegon he is actually Cypher
>>88991098Yes.Real answer is it varies between warbands, but they don't work alongside the imperium unless deep uncover as the empire shoots them on sight.
>>88991091yeah it's not like mohammad went around telling everyone he WASN'T the chosen prophet of god, or that Jesus said "no no no, I'm not the son of god, I'm just a nice guy who wants you to love each other" kinda dumb but what do you expect from retarded fedora tipping black library authors who know nothing of actual theology or history. most people's reaction to anyone claiming they're a fucking god is extreme skepticism, the people who have succeeded IRL at convincing people they're divine have had to be VERY vocal and VERY persistent about their divinity to overcome that baseline rejection. Nobody got deified on accident.
>>88991043>>‘He has denied–’ Keeler began.>>‘Yet you still believe! This is my point! The more He denies it, the more you believe!Well fuck them how is He to deny it? "I'm not a god, that means I actually am a god"??Hey anon, you are a femboy>N-no, i am notGuess what, that means you are!
>>88991104they haven't arrived yet
>>88991099Depends on their minimum required hardware. They could be loading the entire map into video memory for quick culling checks for all you know, taking 3d models and projecting them onto a 2D texture as a rendering step that has lighting baked in. They could do all sorts of stupid shit to a “2D Doom clone” type game to be “modern”.
>>88990808>He has appeared as male or femaleFellas… is it gay to bang the big E if he’s a pretty woman?
>>88991068It gave me a headache around my eyebrow area, I think shooters stress me out too much and I also forget to blink. I switched to low difficulty so it doesn't stress me out as much
>>88990970If anyone should have been mercy killed it was Angron. Lorgar could've been saved if he was given any kind of oversight like having a detachment of custodes to stop them from going to the Eye of Terror.
>>88991121People IRL weren't 12ft tall, covered in golden armor, uniting the entire planet with their custom designed super soldiers, and the most powerful psychic the planet and maybe the galaxy had ever seen
>>88991091Yeah, the whole thing is bullshit, only the very end makes any sense and he should have skipped to it.>‘There you go. Because then you would understand. Anything that is easy enough to understand is not powerful enough to be worshipped. A history of religion should show you this.’The Emperor's reasons for keeping quiet were always kind of crap.>>88991128No it's even straighter, it's the most straight sex possible under roman rules.
>>88991059Hey! I resemble that remark.
>>88991145Didn't they have a group of Custodes watching them and Erebus murdered them with his possessed buddies?
>>88991128the real reason big e likes the sisters of silence so much is that he's really a sexy christmas cake and wants some girls to hand out and paint his nails with, but because she grew up in fucking bronze age anatolia she assumed you needed to be a 20 foot tall jacked demigod authority figure for people to take her seriously.the only people who can see through the glamour are the sisters of silence which is also why they're not allowed to talk. this is also why Big E grants miracle dice to Sororitas but ignores marines.Malcador the Sigilite was of course the emperor's obligatory gay best friend. this is also why she was such a terrible "father", she was larping the whole time.t. Alpharius
>>88991115>>88991116That’s unfortunate. I like their nautical designs on their armor.
>>88990701Goblin Green + Flock.
I'm gonna go to my local game store to buy a box or two of space marines to start a Blood Angels army. Give me a top 3 boxes/models I should look for.
>>88991182whichever look coolest to own and paint. there's a new edition in a month and nobody knows what the fuck anything will be like.
>>88991164I mean you can always use alpha legion minis with Ultramarine rules and say they're undercover. I do that. Mix in a few alpha legionaries and take inquisitor agents to represent the people trying to sniff them out.
>>88991091>This just isn't true.No shit. The second statement is not a comment on the first.
>>88991194It's also still untrue on it's own, and at odds with what we can see of religions forming.
>>88989775>need holocaust amounts of pain to feel/absorb anythingDo you think 5Gum would do the trick?
Thinking of 3D printing a small Night Lords army to get back into 40k (around 500-1000 points), any advice on things to make it interesting?
>>88991220>3D printingreported your IP to James
>>88991220Dead babies everywhere
>>88991098I ignore whatever fluff I don't like, so I like to think The Cabal presented them two scenarios: one where Horus won and chaos self destructed, or one where the Emperor won and the Imperium became everything the Emperor despised instead of disappearing.As such, Alpharius chose "neither". He vented the Cabal representative, helped a coup to destroy it, and rationalized that neither side could "win" if the conflict never ended. Hence the future being in a state of constant war.It proved to be the wrong choice, however, as current era is defined precisely by the Imperium being a regressive, stagnant empire.Sometimes people are mistaken. This IS a tragedy, after all.
>>88991222you fool he'll just 3d print a new ip
>>88991222I want to test my printer and have an army I can paint quickly without getting autistically obsessed about every detail so I don't want to touch any real model kits
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>>88989775>the only alternative is being eaten by Slaanesh.they can always join the clowns or ynnari once giga-heroin just doesn't cut it anymore. clowns might turn up their noses depending on how much of an asshole they were but the ynnari have gotten their asses kicked so much recently they can't really afford to turn down recruits, especially ones with millenia of combat experience
>>88991149>People IRL weren't 12ft tall, covered in golden armor, uniting the entire planet with their custom designed super soldiers, and the most powerful psychic the planet and maybe the galaxy had ever seen1. There was plenty of other sci-fi and magic shit going on in the galaxy. 2. He specifically said to not worship him, even if you did believe he was a god you'd be angering a god by going against his commandments if you worshipped him.
>>88991250>you'd be angering a god by going against his commandments if you worshipped him.Doesn't stop people IRL from doing that constantly and still believing
>>88991293Those gods demand worship, they don't reject it.
>>88991220Line them with electrical wires so that there are actual arcs of electricity on them.Namely tanks, of course.
>>88988765Could it be? He's matured?Character development?>>8898881799% chance gets taken aside by the Inquisition and tested asap.That's what happened to Titus after doing much the same.
>>88990677Oh for fucks sake.You do realize none of those are a result of religion, rather adopted symbolic imagery that religions used and tied to themselves.Gothic architecture is not a Catholic thing. Arguably it was anti-catholic, but then got adopted later on because it makes solid, attractive buildings.A halo is a fucking not-crown.Wings are a symbol of freedom.And people often defer leadership to taller people.And miracles aren't real. That's just being better at shit.All these symbols dated well before any abrahamic religion came about. We can trace them back to earliest Egypt, just going off the top of my head. They don't come from Christian lore, or Jewish lore, or fucking anything.The dude covered him in common symbolic imagery to imply personal power, freedom, leadership, rulership and success.He wore a fucking mask.Stop getting your grasp on shit from TTSD.
>>88991627>And people often defer leadership to taller peopleHumans aren't so different from orks after all
>>88990996Sanguinius would like a word.
>>88990980Honestly their models are still very good.
>>88991123"Listen to me, I am NOT the Messiah!"
>>88991656Orks are a pisstake on humans after all.
>>88990619>I’ll just miss playing him.Can't you just use him as the current codex wartrike?
>>88991627>Gothic architecture is not a Catholic thing. Arguably it was anti-catholic, but then got adopted later on because it makes solid, attractive buildingsNot him but I want you to explain how a 12th Century French architecture style was anti-Catholic. I know you couched it in 'arguably', but it's such a retarded claim that you need to elaborate on it.
>>88992152>before any abrahamic religion came aboutIt's one of those posts where you know he probably unironically said "hail odinn sael odinn" at one point in his life.
