Who produces the best? Which company/seller makes the most designs?Bonus: what's a great system for an anime styled wargame or TTRPG?
>>88983692Anime style like visuals? You could buy the japanese DnD books with the new illustrations.
>>88983692Klukva used to be great for it but for some reason a one man miniature company got fucking sanctioned.
>>88984145He made the mistake of being born in a country the US doesn't like.
>>88984145Are we sure that one man isn’t related to (or being invested in by) a Russian oligarch? Last I checked (when I did sanctions compliance for my job two weeks ago), the sanctions aren’t against Russia as a whole, just against Certain Individuals and their business interests.
>>88984342You are either bad at baiting on genuinely retarded.He won't work because most payment options the rest of the world uses do not work in russia.A guy i'm buying recasts from has to travel to latvia to one of his friends and uses his account to get paid.
>>88983692D&D 4th edition does “anime meets Tactics RPG” better than it does generic D&D stuff.Tenra Bansho Zero is a translated Japanese ttrpg that’s great for shonen-ish games.If you’re looking for something down to earth and charming, Ryuutama is basically Hayao Miyazaki’s Oregon Trail.
>>88984351Well then he’s not “sanctioned”, now is he?
>>88984366Well no, he just can't take payment from outside Russia, or ship outside Russia. So not *directly* sanctioned sure, but "shut down by unelected western companies for retarded reasons" doesn't have the same ring to it.
>>88984404Agreed, but it is mostly a different issue.Mostly because at least some of the reason stuff like this happens is because the US is a little too aggro about accidental indirect sanctions violations.It’s why, say, nobody sells medical supplies to Iran, despite that theoretically being legal—if they end up getting used on a Revolutionary Guard member, the wrath of the American government is going to come down on you like a ton of bricks.
>>88983692>what's a great system for an anime styled wargame or TTRPG?Anima. For both.
also interested in Japanese styled/anime/manga miniatures. is there anyone who exclusively sticks to this style? any scifi related?
>>88985247Endless Fantasy Tactics (a grid-based wargame by On The Lamb/Isekai Heavy Industries) has anime-styled fantasy miniatures (albeit ones that are transparently designed by Westerners): https://isekaiheavyindustries.com/product-category/digital-miniatures/endless-fantasy-tactics/Sadly, I don’t think they actually make physical miniatures (as opposed to .stl files for 3D printing) anymore, but Noble Knight still has some of their old stock.
>>88986192If you don’t want chibi, they also have normally-proportioned models (although the faces aren’t *quite* anime on those)
>>88986192thanks fren. yes, finding miniatures in this style is an issue...too many times find the wrong face sculpts on the right bodies, or more often, they have a pic of the concept which is totally anime styled and then the stl preview is some kill me tier hack attempt, with D&D styled face
>>88987811> more often, they have a pic of the concept which is totally anime styled and then the stl preview is some kill me tier hack attempt, with D&D styled facYeah, that’s my experience as well.
>>88992437>>88987811MAKE THIS ILLEGAL PLZ
post links please for the best miniatures you've seen
>>88992437Hate this shit like you wouldn't believe. As a sculptor myself it feels like the artist in question is somehow refusing to actually evoke the subject matter; that or they just don't know how.
>>88994932that, or as I find when speaking to people who "just don't like the art style," are often subtlely racist
>>88994512oh god, that pig nose
>>88996053Stop being disingenous
>>88987811>>88992437>>88994512I fucking hate companies who do this shit
>>88983692There’s the company who did this mini, they are based in japan and also make maschinen krieger 3rd party stuff but i can’t remember what they are called.
>>88997527Aurora miniatures Japan
>>88997708Thank you! I never thought i would find them again.
>>88997708It's a shame that they aren't 28mm
>>88997728Np, I'm OP and figured while I'm fishing for more manufacturers/sites I can share all my knowledge as well!
so few replies....are japanese inspired miniatures just rare, or is the market for them so small? do that many people in wargaming prefer a more realistic/western art theme?
>>88995058Many such cases among westoids.>>88999651I feel like it's a factor of wargaming not being so huge in Japan, and most western miniature manufacturers focusing on their native markets. The cases shown in this thread of an anime styled concept piece being turned into a western styled sculpt simply reflect the predicted market, or the artist's own tastes and biases.Japanese sculptors have the ability (see Aurora for an example, not to mention the sheer number of garage kits out there), it's just not a big enough market for wargaming miniatures to be a viable business model.On that note, I'd really like to know how well Games Workshop's foray into the Japanese market is going.
>>88999882>sheer number of garage kitsare we talking sub 72mm, or standard 8-16" fare?
I want there to be a pokemon wargame/rpg where each session takes you through different towns and gym battles before you reach the pokemon league. I know there is a pokemon rpg but it would be cool if there was a more concrete and rules heavy version based on the games.
Relic Knights is on life support, and their original plastics were awful by CMON. Some of the newer resin is nice though. I liked the original game, but as previously stated, many of their miniatures are "transparently western" in the facial region
>>88999935>are we talking sub 72mm, or standard 8-16" fare?My apologies, I phrased that poorly; what I meant was sculpting ability and the existence of a wide variety of garage kits, not specifically in the field of wargaming.Though that raises the additional question of whether we'll see garage kits made to fit existing GW kits in the future.
>>88983692For miniatures, I think Kingdom Death is pretty successful depending on the artist for the sculpt. Anything with Lokman Lam's art is pretty damn good.
>>89000061ah, thanks for the clarification. im someone with a large collection of bandai star blazers ships, crane game figures, etc. have played wargames for years, but looking for 'something else's to scratch that sci-fi itch that isn't grim and dark nor grandad's textbook space opera with a hint of science.
>>88999975why God. Why....
>>88983692Just get Garage kits.https://www.e2046.com/
>>89000323Yeah, I know the feeling. I think more people will have to start making what they want to see in the world, because currently the market does not. Thankfully 3D printing is opening that space up a bit. Ever consider homebrewing a ruleset to use with those little spaceship models? I have a blind box Space Battleship Yamato model I got 15 years ago and every time I see it on my shelf I wonder how fun it would be to bring to a space battle game, like Full Thrust or something else mini-agnostic. >>89000161I think Kingdom Death might actually have some of the only truly successful anime miniatures I've ever seen so I know it can be done, it's just most people don't. I want to pick up some of the minis eventually as I'm sculpting my own anime miniatures, and you can never have too much research material. >>89000406Genuinely can't tell if it's the sculpt or the painter for the face, but that sculpt is very off in general.
>>88987811>>88992437>>88994504>>88994512woah it's almost like anime drawing styles are extremely stylized in a way that works on a 2d medium, but may not work as well in 3d where you may need eyes and noses to work from more than one angle. I'm not saying full anime style miniatures aren't possible and being done by some companies, but there's a pretty clear cut reason why some manufacturers may choose a more hybrid approach instead.
>>89000457>Ever consider homebrewing a ruleset to use with those little spaceship models?It's not a beautiful or streamlined system, but the old ruleset from the 90s certainly is interesting. Captured the source material perfectly, and maybe is a bit too nuanced to a fault. Rolling copious amounts of D20s(yes D20s) is a bit whimsical but a fun change of pace.Had a battle with the Gamilas vs solo Yamato with my dad back in the 2000s on a cheap star poster we laid flat and drew grids on. Still remember the burned cd blasting the music from the show, and the blacklights we had going. Good times!Any pics of your stls designing anime miniatures? Thinking of buying some stls from designers out of Japan, and resculpting them to suit my own purposes. I figure at least, I'll have the body proportions/hair/face aspects covered, which are arguably stylistically the most important
>>89000707>Any pics of your stls designing anime miniatures? Sure, picrel is one of my prototypes. Topology is a bit rough, but it isn't an issue when printed out at 32mm at least.>Had a battle with the Gamilas vs solo Yamato with my dad back in the 2000s on a cheap star poster we laid flat and drew grids on. Still remember the burned cd blasting the music from the show, and the blacklights we had going. Good times!Sounds like!
>>89000813Woahh looking cool (joker)! Link to your cults account or something in the future when you start publishing? This is the kind of shit I'd love paying for.Is this for like a Dominion styled skirmish game?
>>89000860https://cults3d.com/en/users/PHIX_Systems/creationsThat particular model is actually up for free, along with two others if you'd like something to download. Others are in development but I've been focused a lot on work so it's been slow going as of late. I'm hoping to do a squad-sized release next month though.>Is this for like a Dominion styled skirmish game?Sort of. It's a skirmish game about playing as a gang of catgirls run amok in a post-apocalyptic world. Every faction is based off of a different type of cat or a homage to a specific catgirl from anime past. This bunch being the Aisha ClanClan/Puma Sisters squad of big buff idiots with overwhelming firepower.
>>89000813>picrel is one of my prototypes.Woah. I love this. Keep it up. Got more images to post?
>>89000965Not a ton from that faction, but here is the full model which you can find at the link here >>89000954. Thank you though.
>>89000954Following on cults now. These are great and I love the idea. Do you have game rules, or is there a system you've been using to test?
>>89001133Working on a ruleset, nothing worth showing off yet since I'm still ratcheting down on core mechanics. The eventual goal is something campaign based with different factions having different goals to achieve so it's not so much about building the money/gear snowball to stomp your opponents like with, say, Necromunda.
>>89001300Sounds awesome. Same anon with the star blazers models and was asking about your stls. If I was to work out any game or miniatures, it would probably be obviously anime styled with catsuits/muscle uniforms ala Star Blazers whole incorporating pauldron core from the 2000s. I've been working on a game more in the vein of Ryuutama/Studio Ghibli, with each player controlling a suitably themed landship and a sub 20 figure army. Instead of focusing entirely on combat, there are random tables to generate weather conditions and what resource is trying to be obtained via the landship. Victory points are scored via selflessly assisting the enemy, gathering the most of the resource, or scoring kills against the randomly generated enemies that additionally spawn. It's a little "HERO" focused right now, but I feel maybe that's okay. Balancing the landships has been an issue as obviously they should be sturdy and powerful, but my attempts at adding maintenance/mechanical/electrical random events has been too swingy but I think the idea is super fun and adds an extra layer.
>>89000517Meanwhile every rando animu has fig merch in Japan. Translation from 2D to 3D is not an issue. Companies using waifu imagery to advertise GW-tier faces aren’t suffering any problem other than having talentless sculptors.
>>89000406>>89000457Honestly I am not super autistic about 1:1 recreation of model to art, but some of the anima and relic miniatures can be disappointing with how they sculpt them. There's a Relic Knights pirate pack with a fun posed female pirate that would look good as a miniature (in the art)... then you see her inside the pack and it's some of the worst poses I've seen in miniature gaming, one step away from just having a low detail t-pose model.>>88997708Bless you!
>>89001470>my attempts at adding maintenance/mechanical/electrical random events has been too swingy but I think the idea is super fun and adds an extra layer.The devil is always in the details. I've been tied up in figuring out an initiative system that doesn't feel too stiff. Originally I was sticking with alternating activation, but after having played a skirmish game called Rogue Stars which has constant tension (as initiative can swap at any time with a bad roll), it now feels awful by comparison.That said, I tend to like swing in general, so the idea of constantly keeping your gigantic mechanical monster moving and not blowing up due to old clunky tech failing around you sounds like a lot of fun to me.>>89001575>>89001617I think that ultimately it comes down to a failure to understand the source material on the part of the artist, and a lack of care in whoever commissions them. A sculptor can be very skilled and still fail to execute something if they don't take time to study the piece of art they're trying to replicate. This takes time, and if you're a gig sculptor and someone hands you a piece of anime concept art, and you have a deadline a month out, then you probably don't have time to learn how to sculpt "real" anime facial features when almost every other job you've done has asked for "D&D" style. Plus, if the end product is "good enough" for whoever hired you, it's not actually worth investing the time in learning it anyways, because you'll just be off to the next gig doing more stuff that isn't anime.It's the nature of the beast sadly. I sure as hell can't do "D&D" style facial sculpts, because I instead focused all of my attention into mechanical design and trying to get anime head shapes and stylization right.That said, posing is an entirely different issue, and it's heartbreaking when I see really great sculpts with excellent detail but absolute garbage, boring near-T-poses. Even GW's posing sucks lately, like that new Commissar mini.
>>89000954Shit like this is why I love 3d printing. One person goofing around on a computer can start giving the biggies a run for their money.
>>89001763>I've been tied up in figuring out an initiative system that doesn't feel too stiff.Have you ever seen/tried warlord games' initiative dice system? It's probably the most fluid I've ever seen and wonder why other systems don't implement them. Might find some inspiration up that alley?
Look at Ultrazone. The sculptor actually being Japanese helps.
>>89002296It's intriguing, that's for sure. Thank you for the recommendation.
hotgoblin is a jp mini company with more anime styled designs.If you go through jp language warhammer people on twitter, you'll eventually stumble onto the guys who paint anime figurines including some who 3d print them.
>>88984351Oh, that explains why some of the Zvezda kits I've been looking for are only shipping out of the Baltics.
A lot of the japanese 3d printer scene is still basically just the garage kit scene. People make a cool design, show it off, and then say it's being sold at a convention in japan and there's only 30 of them being made. They don't sell the files, it's still that culture gap with how they produce things.Bugs me cause I really like garage kit mecha, and western mecha is still firmly lodged in mechwarrior bucket on legs trappings. It's just offmodel sentinels and cubes with greebles as far as the eye can see.
>>89006204>sold at a convention in japan and there's only 30 of them being madebought tickets to a miniature festival online thinking I'd have a better chance at getting some of the copyright miniatures.my favorite sculptor made 5. wtf.
If you want some scifi coom look no further than Limbodivision209. Tho there isn't a game involved with their minis.>https://www.marchenatelier.com/magical-girl-assaultAnother weeaboo contender. I tried learning the game, but I just didn't have the time. The miniatures are okay, but some suffer the same issues as >>88994512 but the printed miniatures look fine.>>89000457>I think Kingdom Death might actually have some of the only truly successful anime miniatures I've ever seen so I know it can be done, it's just most people don't. I want to pick up some of the minis eventually as I'm sculpting my own anime miniatures, and you can never have too much research material.I agreed, but I think a lot of it is also in the paintjob. Even with Kingdom Death, western and eastern painters are very different especially in the way they paint faces. Depending on the painter, western painters seem to emphasize details, textures, and contrast a lot more, exaggerate features like nasal folds, cheekbones, and eyelids, etc etc. There's the famous face painting tutorial from a Chinese painter who created a miracle by painting GW's sob heads beautifully giving them an anime-ish look
>>89006267Tyty, the exact kind of posts I was hoping for!
Has anyone purchased an Aurora model?
>>89000517The style of the faces in OP's image look perfect. >>88983692
>>89006204Many GK folks that make original stuff have shops on booth.The issue generally is that the license to sell stuff associated with certain IPs is only valid for that very show.
>>89000813Oh Hey you made these? I saw them not too long ago on minifactory. I think they are great.
>>89007275several. What do you want to know?
>>89007900painted picshow was shippingdo you like them
>>89008184>Aurora modelI can send some pictures when I et home but overall they are nice. Clean edges. The shipping was fine got the pretty fast actually I was a little surprised.
>>89008531Ty. Pic with comparison to a GW for proportion and scale, if you could please?
>>89008627Sorry best I don't have any GW stuff. These are some Reaper models next to them. Some do run a little larger but they do list the sizes on the website I think.
>>89010335tyvm, they look great. probably picking some up soon!
>>88983692Sauce on these ones?
>>88999975>Relic Knights is on life supportI thought it was officially dead, but after seeing your post I went and looked and was surprised they were still offering anything. I have some of their minis that I use for other games. I'd have more of them if they weren't so expensive. I dol like their designs, for the most part.
Big chunk is all about how you paint them. Aurora Miniatures UltrazoneRNestudioTwin Goddess Miniatures
>>89016931I feel like half their line could be saved with some headswaps, and a good portion of the line saved by just resculpting your own. I guess in 2021 they managed to cough up their Kickstarter from 2016.You're not wrong on the prices. I'm assuming they're expecting the customer to pay for their mistakes. It's a fun game, but $149.99 for a starter set..... without a box.... without the rulebook.... containing sub 20 miniatures....yeah no thanks