Could a god of death be Good?
>>88096937Sure, why not. In a fantasy setting death isn't necessarily the end and might lead to a better place, even if it is a big and scary change to people who don't for sure what comes after death. Regardless of how it works for an individual mortal, death might be a necessary part of the world, in which case there's no reason why the god of death should be a bad guy. Even if death is just a bad thing all around, deoending on the setting gods aren't necessarily omnipotent or the original creators if all that is, and god of death could just be the guy who's taken on the responsibility to deal with the pre-existing and inescapable phenomenon of death as best he can.
Yes. Christian imagery that doesn't shy away from death as a central topic is proof to that. In many pieces of media death as an entity isn't really depicted as evil so the jump to good shouldn't be too hard.
>>88096937Probably depends on what you mean by god of death to start withA god that causes death? A god that is the personification of death? A god that presides over the dead?
>>88096937Depends on what you think of as good.
>>88096937I think the idea of an evil god of death is mostly an invention of fiction.In reality (western traditions) deities of death or psychopumps are rarely considerd evil. Even the grim reaper is usually more thought of as doing his natural duty (even though it's sad).
You could spin a ferryman who's doing you a favor by dragging you to the afterlife, in the idea that there's other things that could happen with your soul if he doesn't take it. He isn't the one to kill you, he just collects, and you can totally fob him off if you want to. There's a reason why ghosts are never very happy though.
>le death is... EVIL!
>>88096971>Christ rising from a nuclear craterI'm catholic (not a good one though), but sometimes I think Vatican II may have been a mistake...
>>88096971Christianity is about eternal life and Christ triumphing over Death you dumb atheist pseud.
>>88096988>A god that causes death? A god that is the personification of death? A god that presides over the dead?All of these would be objectively good deities.
>>88096937Sure? Morr in Warhammer Fantasy is generally regarded as good. His realm isn't exactly pleasant or fun, and people do FEAR him, but Morr's real is a place of rest and peace, and the god is reckoned to protect the dead from the despoiling of necromancy or the ravening of daemons.In a less specific sense, the world tends to be characterized by war, hunger, sickness, strife, and general uncertainty. You may not want to die, but a god of death can be a good shepherd who welcomes all and lets them finally set down all their cares and hurts in blessed peace and quiet.
>>88096937"Let's bring you home."Absolutely, can the god of death be benevolent.
>>88097087Go back to pleddit
>>88097180Shut up protestant scum. Passion of Jesus is the central part of our faith and it's images and word convey much of it's meaning. Only having the risen Lord around because looking at ouchy wouchy stuff makes you uncomfortable is cringe. >>88097144Yes but the statue still slaps.
>>88096937In my setting the god of death is also the god of humanity. He's only seen as the god of death to humans though, the other races all have their own interpretation of what he governs depending on the culture of the closest human settlement. To goblins he's seen as a war god because to them humans have mastered war and their god must bless them for it. To elves he's seen as a god of romance and adventure since the only humans they encounter are ones drunk on wanderlust. To dwarves he's seen as a thief god because humans stole all their shit and are a bunch of no good squatters.But to humanity he's the god of death because you return to his plane after you fall, and you only hear his voice on the precipice of death. He's described as fatherly and just wanting every human to be the best person they can be.
>>88096937Death is an inevitably, it comes for all. for mice, for men, for dragons, for nations, and eventually for this world.Death cares not if you try to escape him, for he knows he will come for you in the end.Death wants no one to fear him, for no one deserves to be afraid when their time comes.
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>>88097332>pretending to be a Christian when you worship a bunch of demigods and actually accept corrupt men being between you and Godlollmao
in my homebrew the god of death is an absolute cunt, because ghosts and undead just cause troubles, and as the god of death hes the one the other gods complain to/throw lightning at when a town of followers falls to undead.the god does good, but hes a cunt about it.his reapers on the other hand are really chill dudes, who don't really care about their very important job, and can be very easily swayed into letting you take a second go at life.they do evil, but are nice about it.the party started out hating the god, since he IS a spiteful beancounter, but after he went missing after throwing a tantrum, and the reapers just went on strike, and the dead rose from the grave in such huge amounts that a major city they had been questing for ceased to exist (built on centuries old royal catacombs) they started to realise how much the world needed him to exist.the party also have a most hated reaper who keeps letting their enemies come back from the dead, theres been an orc warlord they fought in their first dungeon chasing them for in game years now, hes about 2 more deaths away from just turning into a demilich, but im hoping to kill enough PCs in the next session for them to go deal with the reaper.stop trying to get hints about future sessions zac
>>88097332>>88096971>Death as an entity isn't really depicted as evilFor God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. - John 3:16O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. - 1 Corinthians 15:55-57 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. - 1 Corinthians 15:26For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. - Romans 6:23 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me. - Psalm 23:4And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. - Revelation 21:4
>>88097398No one worships the saints, you moron.
>>88097579Catholics do.
>>88097592It's veneration, not worship.
>>88096937I'm sorry young man but it seems this has already been done!
>>88096937Not tg but there's a vidya I play called deadbolt. Basics are you're a reaper who has to help wayward souls of people who've overdosed, people who died because of a lover, and suicide victims cross over to the other side (by killing them). At the end you find out that the Flames, a strange being who sends you on these missions, is actually the god of life I've based the main god of my own setting off this too what with death technically being just another step in the process of life
I wish Christfags didn't invade this thread with their stupid Bible shit.
>>88097833>He doesn't know about Santa Muerte
>>88097833Dumbass entered a open question thread about gods and mortality and got mad people discussed religion lol
>>88097833What sort of four armed elephant god do your pagan ass worship? Or maybe you worship beakers and atoms?
>>88097595To cope is to be catholic
>>88097480>Thine be the glory, risen conquering Son,>Endless is the victory, thou o’er Death hast won.
>>88097652i fucking LOVE the lore in Deadbolt and would absolutely make a game based on it one day. I do really like how the fire works and always speaks in rhymes as well as how tragic the ending story is. That the previous reaper killed himself from overwork trying to become friends with the faceless fire making the god realise his wrongdoings and do better with his next reaper but lo and behold, the next reaper is all effeciency with no care for friendship or much of anything.
>>88097595>it's worship, not worshipIdalotrous cope
>>88098075>What sort of four armed elephant god do your pagan ass worship? Or maybe you worship beakers and atoms?If you don’t worship this Jew nailed to a stick and the Edomite war god he claims was his father then you’re an ignorant savage or soulless materialist.Your god is the D&D of religions. Nothing going for it in the modern day but longevity and good branding.
>>88100572>Your god is the D&D of religions.Damn, that's cold
>>88096937check this outhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aSK2JPEBVI
>>88096937Most gods of death actual mythology are either portrayed as just doing their job to pretty decent. Hell main Mexicans worship a saint(rebranded god) of death
hades is way less of an asshole compared to both his brothers
>tfw thousands of gods have died over the eons until your entire setting's pantheon is eventually reduced to just the rigidly professional lawful neutral god of death strictly holding to contractual stipulations and the perfectly selfish chaotic neutral trickster god of cheating perpetually weaseling out of dying yet again, literally cheating death forever, thereby indefinitely postponing the inevitable death of everything else.
>>88097007Obviously yes.
>>88096937I like the idea that the god of death is the nicest thing awaiting you in the afterlife.
>>88097630>see image>hear theme music
Death is a tireless civil servant. He doesn't go around murdering people, he merely takes people to where they're supposed to go afterward. And really, all this talk of good and evil in his actions is really holding him up so... GET IN THE FUCKING BAG SHIT CUNT, I'VE GOT 15 MORE THIS MINUTE AND YOU'RE HOLDING UP THE LINE WITH YOUR 3RD GRADE FUCKING THEOLOGY!
Death gods are generally portrayed as good (or atleast neutral) if a bit maligned. Thanatos (good), Hades (neutral, but also the least asshat of the brothers), Anubis (good), Osiris (good), Azrael (good), the shinigami (run the full gamot, but broadly neutral leaning good), Odin (good), the valkyries (good), Morta (neutral), Marzanna (neutral)People tend to fear death already, and one of religion's purposes is as a coping mechanism. Having a big scary death god at the end of the road is counterintuitive.
>>88096937YES
>>88097652Deadbolt is such kino.
>>88096971Gods are often born out of a primitive mind's fear and inability to explain a particular natural phenomenon. Take note of the sheer volume of ancient gods devoted to thunderbolts and lightning, because some grass-skirted savage thought it was all very, very frightening.the frightened primitive's first act is to anthropomorphise the inexplicable force, to give human features and shape to something, make it more familiar by deciding it is like themselves in some way. The extremely recent christian deity is just another iteration of this, but constructed to assuage a fear of death. Everything about it hinges upon death, especially any mortal day-to-day practices, because that hinges on what form your death will take. I'd say it's a poor example for a "good" god of death, however, especially the variant pictured; Were the catholics presented as a sect in a "Conan The Barbarian" novel, they'd undoubtedly be the hysterical death cultists, fearfully burning some comely maiden because it started raining whilst she washed her hair. "Death for the death god", they would cry.
>>88106172>haha stupid cultists>quick put your mask back on or the bat god will smite you!
>>88105684No, I wanna play chess first.
>>88106235I didn't see you suggest that I was wrong.
>>88106316>they'd undoubtedly be the hysterical death cultists, fearfully burning some comely maiden because it started raining whilst she washed her hair. "Death for the death god", they would cry.I'm not humoring your schizophrenia.
>>88096937The one in my current worldbuilding is the god of the sea, but is also responsible for mortality. They view the afterlife as a world across the ocean, so they pray to the god of the sea to guide them through, but also to guide those in the other world onto the mortal world. The old pray to him to pass away calmly and the parents-to-be pray to him for a safe delivery. He is considered a harsh, but fair diety, just like the seas he rules over which can be calm but may also crash
>>88096937Very easily, just depends on your setting:>World ruled by Tyrant Necromancer Kings has the God of Death as the ultimate liberator from them>World of unending life has the God of Death relieve people from the constant fighting and competition>Next step in spiritual evolution requires dying so the God of Death is literally helping you become a more evolved being>Reincarnation is a thing and the God of Death is basically your therapist who helps you interpret lessons from this life to carry into the next>Death is the ultimate equalizer and form of justice so the God of Death also judges everyone and decides their earned fate
>>88106333You DO know that the lunatic cannibal blood-cult branch of christianity was pretty fond of burning people alive, right?
The easiest way to do this is simply have the god not like things dying. There's lots of precedent for 'gods of death' being more the ferrymen or custodians of the dead, not the one that causes or inflicts death themselves. The followers of this god would rail against those that bring about death, and thank their patron that, even when the worst comes, they will be there for their souls.You don't need to do some edgelord 'death is good (for other people)' or new-age 'death is good (for everyone)' mental gymnastics to make it work.
>>88100572in the name of vulcanus, I felt the burn
>>88098006theres more religions than your shitty white-boy one.
>>88106917First time I hear that. Devil worshippers love their sacrifice crispy with ketchup? Next thing you tell me they eat adults.
>>88097007>>88105348Looks like someone whitewashed Death of the Endless from Sandman. So gross and insensitive.
>>88108224I'm so sorry. I have only the corrupted version of Death of the Endless from Sandman. If only some kind artistic soul would help me and return her to original form.
>>88096937Greek mythology more or less did this already, Disney interpretations notwithstanding.
>>88096937Hades & Osiris exist
>>88106132Gods of Egypt was not a good movie (fun, but not good), but I really appreciated the fact Anubis was not a bad guy in, despite looking like image related. He was doing his job for most of the movie, and even bent the rules a few times.
>>88108198Yes, yes, yes, and all black people crave white-girl flesh, all indians wear turbans to hide their pointed skulls, all nazis were sorcerers and blah, blah, blah, insert primitive fantasies, demented lies and stories of the ignorant here.In point of fact, there are not human sacrifice rituals in any branch of Satanism, those are an invented fiction, the stuff of black-and-white film making fantasy. The obsession with blood and death rests entirely upon the christians, be it in their earliest, craven, slavery-happy state as filthy desert-dwelling savages to their relatively modern catholic sensibilities. I'm especially fond of the patron saint of politicians, St. Thomas Moore, who is famed for leading a brutal campaign through England, burning alive any that dared to own a bible in English, and not the language of the high class elite. These days your saints just fuck children and dodge a gaol cell.
>>88108794I sleep soundly knowing I will tread on your ashes soon.
>>88108487>Son of Set, the (arguably) most evil god in the pantheon>Pretty chill guy who just does his job
Your question implies some sort of invisible rule imposed on fantasy setting that they can't.There is no such rule.
>>88097180Christianity is not a material centered religion, since it seeks to reconcile the beleaguered and burdened spirit of man with that of Christ, and speak to understand Gods message, which once you are aware of will settle all earthly concerns, which are inherently removed from God as sin, and so obviously, and only by means of your own relationship to God, subordinate to the Holy Spirit, wherein eternal life lays.The sins of life (including death) speak by their existence to the narrow single path towards God, and as held by Christ, for the sake of his sorrowful passion, grants mercy on us and on the whole world, for God so loved.
>>88100572>t banana atheist (literal) niggerThe singularity has arrived lol. Dios mio.
>>88100572>religion as a sales pitchbased and consumerist pig pilled. glad you couldn’t get through even one post, wherein you cited your own inferiorities and servitude, without further demonstrating them lol.Christianity is truly the eternal enemy of the sinful black, degenerate sodomite, and their satanic masters.Christ is King.
>>88106235>christian cannot grasp something as basic as germ theorymany such cases
>>88096937Death deities are often just psychopomps whose purpose is only to lead the dead to the afterlife.
>>88109704>>88109745>over a quarter of the worldwide Christian populations resides in Africa>nigger this, black degenerate thatThese are supposed to be your brothers and sisters in Christ. You are a hypocrite who pays lip service to the teachings of Christ while still holding hate in your heart. For every good Christ gave to the world tenfold evils have been visited upon the world by men who claim to act in his name.
>>88108794I guess you also think that white people invented war, slavery, and every social ill in the world, huh, anon?
>>88096937I ran a setting (with a campaign that lasted just over a year) with a LG god of death, birth, healing and time. His perspective was that everyone has a specifically-alloted amount of time alive to learn and make the world a better place before it is time to return home. His worshippers needed to "make themselves worthy" of the heaven on the other side. As a corollary, because life is so limited and precious, no one should be injured, sick or disabled during their lifetime, therefore the Cathedral of Morind offered free healing services in major cities and had a strong doctrinal opposition to weapons/spells that cause permanent injury or disfigurement instead of killing, such as fire, acid, etc.. Also, as a further corollary, undead needed to be destroyed on sight and was considered the most heinous and unforgivable sin. This was complicated by the fact that using fire-based weaponry (even against the undead) was not permitted due to the cruelty of the instrument.
>>88096937could a god of death be evil is what u should be asking.
>>88097180That's the party line, certainly.Yet, Christians still die every day.His triumph was leaving everything exactly the same on this world as before in the part we all experience.And then *maybe* God doesn't kill/torture your soul after your body dies. The parable of the sheep & goats shows that isn't a certainty if we do take the book as true.
>>88108224the show was subpar, get over it.
>>88110634No, but again you didn't seem to suggest I was wrong about anything.>>88109434Found the next school shooter. FBI, this one, right here. Do what it is you people do and let them run free; I'll place a bet his kill count exceeds 20 children.
>>88115630No, no. The christians don't DIE. what are you talking about?They just have to spend the rest of their lives in a little pine box whilst they astrally project themselves to the elemental plane of jew.
>>88096937What are some other spheres of influence that would make sense for a benevolent Death deity besides animals associated with death, like in picture related, or something along the lines of Life?
>>88115790>elemental plane of jew.lost.
>>88096937Does he kill people or does he see to them to the afterlife?
>>88107996Seethe harder faggot.You can't hang.
>>88116314Death/War - in the vein of Valhall - worthy/honourable deaths in battle, etc.Death/Sacrifice - honours the giving of life for benefit of another (core of most animal sacrifice practices)Death/Time - as an end to decayDeath/Change - embracing the transmutation of elements (could easily fit with sacrifice, rebirth/reincarnation, eternal life themes)Death/Judgement - death as the final justice where all deeds in life are accounted for
>>88096937>"What can the harvest hope for, if not for the care of the reaper man?"Yes it can. Just read fucking Discworld, you goddamned zoomer.Death is pretty much the Good-est character in the setting.
>>88097144sedevacantists are just crypto-prots. America is drifting from the Church and cementing itself as the ideological core of Calvinism (secular or otherwise) and trying to paint the process as the church's fault
>>88098080>>88099897"personal relationship with God" is self worship
>>88106132>Thanatos (good)The greeks HATED Thanatos. Thanatos was portrayed as a terse, moody, and aggressive prick who takes away your loved ones and doesn't give a shit. Heracles beat his ass a few times.
>>88096937yes death isn't a bad thing even in our world, imagine yourself in agonizing pain over sickness or injury and being forced to endure that for indefinite amount of time, would you not give a prayer for death to release you from your pain?even something as simple as being done with this world can be a motive to pray for death, a good guy death could be like a solemn being that answers the prayers of suffering creatures and creatures whose souls have matured enough to pass on to whatever afterlife(s) the setting hasresounding yes to your question
>>88096937What are some good examples of, well, good Death deities not mentioned here already? And do you feel that the idea works better with female deities over male ones?
>>88119479you a lazy nigger
Could a god of nails be good?
>>88119872Well Jesus.
>>88119872Absolutely. Nails are a pillar of society. Imagine having buildings and furniture without nails.Nails are a blessing unto mankind
>>88119906>Imagine having buildings and furniture without nails.Riveting!
>>88119906Oh look, an Amerimutt. There are buildings without a single nail in them that were built before the French gave your "nation" support.
>>88101535Not really, people were just afraid of talking too much about him. This is why he was referred to by other names such as wealth-giver when they actually had to reference him. People had different concepts of virtuous action as well due to their different values.
>>88119291Yeah but he was also necessary. When Sisyphus tricked and chained Thanatos up even the gods, who also hated him, (eventually) wanted him released because no one dying was a problem. Certainly wasn’t seen as good though so the anon was wrong. As Hesiod states>has a heart of iron, and his spirit within him is pitiless as bronze: whomsoever of men he has once seized he holds fast: and he is hateful even to the deathless gods.
>>88106172>Were the catholics presented as a sect in a "Conan The Barbarian" novelBut Mitra is already a thing
Santa Muerte has always been good to me.
>>88120311Right, because Mitra was modeled after Catholicism and not Mithraism, a religion that existed in several forms throughout antiquity until around 300AD when Christianity became ascendant.Read a book, dolt.
>>88119906>Imagine having buildings and furniture without nails.
>>88096937Osiris was a dead god of death and was one of the top good guys in Egyptian myths.What sort of aimless bot thread is this?! Even shitposters aren't this low when it comes to quality.
>>88119872I think they’d actually be a god of eyes
>>88119906Amerimutt be like "Joinery? What sorcery is this?!". That would also explain why you do so many wooden buildings that will collapse on their own in less than a decade of use.
>>88097595Silence, Papist.
>>88119479>What are some good examples of, well, good Death deities not mentioned here already?Certainly not Hel, Hel is generally a spiteful cunt(for admittedly good reasons) who actively spreads plagues to make more souls come to her.>And do you feel that the idea works better with female deities over male ones?No. The idea that female gods are/should be nicer than male gods is dumb. Both can be good and kind, both can be massive cunts, both can be anywhere in-between.
>>88120002>>88121483>Anon makes a joke reply>Two anons lose their shit about Americans.Bros. Calm down, it was clearly intended as a joke.
>>88096937How about this, a setting has two Death deities. One collects the souls of the virtuous, and the other gathers and punishes the souls of the damned.
>>88118856Did you pray to your priest so he could pray to a saint so a saint could pray to God to form that opinion? lol
>>88101535>>88120052Hades is pretty reasonable but still scary due to the nature of his domain. The "rape" of Persephone was seemingly anything but. You've got some people who argue Persephone is the older god but I'm no historian, so don't ask me. He DOES seem to be the only Greek god with a healthy, loving marriage.
>>88121483I'll just joinery this horse shoe shall I?
>>88096937Buddha is a good god of death. Nirvana isn't the goal. Total oblivion is. Reincarnation and eternal life/suffering is the natural evil of the universe and need to be resisted.
>>88124452I don't know about you, but at least where I'm from, horses aren't considered buildings or furniture.
>>88124528>He makes buildings without nails or horse powerBig Incan flex.
>>88096937??? All gods of death are good. Death is part of the natural cycle and gives meaning to life. A god of death can only ever be good. I think a more interesting question would be "Can a god of death be NOT feared and misunderstood?"
>>88108278>>88105348>>88097007I want to fuck the shit out of Neil's Death. So much. Goddamn. I know if she was the actual Death I'd have no shot in the short time I'd see her, and I'd be rude to even shoot my shot, but goddamn.
>>88124419Might be my alcohol mush brain but wasn't rape originally just carrying off women without marrying them and then obviously plowing them? It was more of an act of shoplifting and then looking at the state of the woman.Medusa comes to mind and I cant tell if she was changed into a monster to spite Poseidon, prevent further thievery, or slut shame a girl prettier than her "patron" deity.
>>88120866But Mitra in Conan is mostly based on Christianity as opposed to Mitraism...
>>88106917Pretty sure burning people alive is an ecunemical issue.
>>88124419>You've got some people who argue Persephone is the older god but I'm no historian, so don't ask meThe TLDR is this: We've found records of the Greek Gods from the Bronze age. Where we found Persephone's name, with some connection to the Underworld. But no Hades.So the current supposition is that Hades came later on. As an Import God, a god who broke off from another god, or made up specifically to be Persephone's husband.
>>88125235TLDR, again. Hades didn't cart Persephone off without permission. He asked her father, Zeus, for her hand in marriage. Zeus accepted, but neglected to inform Persephone's mother of this arrangement.Also Medusa being a rape victim is entirely the creation of Ovid, a poet from the days of Augustus(first emperor of rome). Ovid re-wrote a lot of old stories to make Gods and Kings even bigger dickheads than before.Pre-Ovid versions either have Medusa have just been a monster from the start, or turn into one entirely on her own. No Poseidon Rape or Athena Punishment involved.
>>88096937They were never evil, just enforcing the law
>>88125581It's been ages and the multiple versions have blended together in my memory. Hades always seemed like a stern but reasonable dude so the whole rape thing seemed really out of character for him.Ovid poisoning shit seems like one of the biggest reasons why greek mythology becomes confusing. Medusa just outright being a monster makes it less morally ambiguous to kill her and then using the loot she drops as a weapon. Also makes the gods look less like total asshats. Thanks man.
>>88124487Fuck oblivion i want to exist.
>>88125826>Ovid poisoning shitTLDR on Ovid.He got kicked out of Rome in exile, mysteriously around the time Augustus' daughter got pregnant from an "unknown" father.After that almost all of his works were extremely anti-authoritarian, and presenting Gods and Kings as massive unlikable assholes who constantly punished people for no reason.
>>88109745For a religion that hates sodomites it sure does have a lot of them
>>88119921I appreciate it anon
>>88120002>>88121483>Even the slight possibility of America triggers lesser countriesFitting
>>88115771>FBI, this one, right here. Do what it is you people do and let them run free; I'll place a bet his kill count exceeds 20 children.The christcucks could never match a muslims record, especially this crop of internet tradcaths. Their faith is weak, and would crumble at their first real test of faith.
>>88126115Yeah, cloistering men together and telling them to repress their carnal urges seems like a foolproof formula for covert assfucking. Accident or design? You decide.
>>88125956No, you don'tRead Schopenhauer
>>88126332Bitch you can't tell me what is what i want. Get the fuck out of my sight agent of the void.
>>88126236It was memed about with Buddhist monks in Edo Period Japan too. This is why I think at least some level of the clergy should be able to marry; you should have some responsible family men watching amidst the potential deviants and in the seminaries. The age of bluebloods with potential mixed allegiances is mostly over.A remember reading about a god of death concept on an osr blog that was inspired pretty heavily by Christianity. I do not remember if it was Good in nature or not but one could definitely go that route
>>88126845Do you have the link to this blog? I want to check it out.
>>88126975Turns out I had it favorites and wasn't that detailed in retrospect but still an interesting ideahttp://inplacesdeep.blogspot.com/2015/03/unfocused-thoughts-on-fimbulwinter.html?m=0
>>88126016Huh, never looked into the personal history of the guy. >Butthurt bardlol
>>88126016Wait, how many myths do we know the common versions of due to him? And are any more of them about death gods?
>>88096937They should be good by default.
>>88132157The first two that come to mind are his versions of Medusa and Arachne, but I don't know others off the top of my head. I'd have to look it up.I don't know if he rewrote any stories involving Hades/Thanos/Persephone. Maybe the Orpheus myth? But I'm unsure on that.
>>88097144I know how you feel. I went to the Vatican for vacation few years ago with my pops and I got to see all the cool art especially the Sistine Chapel ceiling art piece but while I was there I felt a bit of unease like something is there that shouldn't be there in the first place. It was this giant pinecone that I can't explain why but it felt like it shouldn't be in a holy site in the first place.
>>88136368Orphean mythos predates Ovid handidly, there was a whole religion based around Orpheaus with alot of christian overlap
>>88096937One idea I picked up from a videogame (Bastion) that I really like and have been using ever since, is Gods like:-God of life and death-God of war and peace-God of wisdol and ignorance-Etc.Because - if a God has power to grant something they also have the power to withhold it. Earning a God's favor brings their blessings and earning their disdavor brings their curse.
>>88096937Bad guys die too. They are more likely to seek immortality through necromancy.
Gods of Nature/Rebirth/Renewal are already Gods of Death
>>88096937It's good to die, death is the only liberation from suffering.
>>88138979>death is the only liberation from suffering.that's the neat thing, it isn't
>>88097144Only sometimes?
>>88096937Sure, i would argue death probably would be more neutral since it awaits both the wicked and the righteous.But you could make it about "the good dead", which is a Christian principle. You pray for the disseased and the weak to die peacefully and whiout pain
>>88096937Yes if a God of Death is opposed to a God of Life who’s overstayed his welcome (all of humanity is unable to die so the planet is metastasizing into a single overgrown cancer cell of immortal mush and suffering)In that scenario, a God of Death would be a hero. >>88096971God smacks Death in the final chapter, didnt you pay attention?>>88097630His name is Death but he’s technically the “God of Order” if Im remembering this correctly. Its kind of weird that they frame Asura as a God of Madness since Death, Excalibur, wizard guy, + all the other Great Old Ones are also Gods of Madness
>>88096937personally, I can't wait
>>88138807Is that because of the resurrection? There’s so many resurrections in pre-Christian mythology it’s hard to keep track.Osiris, Lugh, Mithras, Quetzalcoatli…The list goes on and on. And most of them are sun deities that attribute the sky as their father too.
>>88138807Most Ovid stories pre-date him. I was more wondering if the more "Hades was a dick" versions of the story originate from him.Like the versions where he was never gonna get his wife back, and Hades was just screwing with him.
>>88140913>This is literally untrue. Jews were well-known and documented as performing ritual sacrifice of gentile children during the medieval age at the very least.I don't especially care about jews either ways but I thought that it was false?
The forest god from Princess Mononoke is a god of life and of death, as he gives life and takes it away. I think if you make it slightly less neutral that is a good angle to tackle the "good god of death" idea.
>>88119479Zero Xolotl mentions, it seems.>>88108487I kinda wonder how bad Immortel, Ad Vitam is. Haven't watched it yet, but definitely going to these days around.I hope, one day we will get some more wholesome movies and/or video games about AE's pantheon.
>>88118856The extensive list hermit and ascetic saints are laughing at you
>>88147894For the non-Catholics in the room, could you clarify please?
>>88153239Suggesting that you have to be a devout church-goer to have a relationship with God is ridiculous given the amount of saints that lived lives of isolation and austerity and were recognized by the church to be worthy of canonization.These dorks pretending to be devout Christians are just looking for a playbook to spew hate at other people. Good Christians do not condemn, they know judgement is the sole province of the Almighty. You can not act with anger or hate and claim to be doing work in God's name. Attack the sin not the sinner and all that business.
>>88097069This is almost exactly the god of death in my setting. He'll let you stick around as a ghost but he'll try his very best to talk you out of it and periodically stop by to see if you'd like to reconsider, because undeath is generally a bad time.
>>88154285>These dorks pretending to be devout Christians are just looking for a playbook to spew hate at other people.>Good Christians do not condemnAnon. I don't disagree with you in principle, but please don't immediately contradict yourself.
>>88156638I’m not a Christian
Sure
>>88096937Death being evil is a weak trope and Death being good is a overused trope.
>>88096937https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nih4x5hv89QYes.
>>88106144Death would say, I AM NOT A GOD. I AM AN ANTHROPOMORPHIC PERSONIFICATION
>>88169547>>88106144Nope, he's bigger than a god or anthromorphic personification. He's the reaper man.
>>88109615>Actively tries to make sure as many people are judged worthy as possible by tipping the scales in your favour when weighing your heart against the Feather of TruthAnubis is a pretty cool guy.
>>88169580Bill Door is one of the coolest names ever.
>Death leads you to the afterlife>Without it, you wander earth eternally as a ghost in limbo>Or get your soul sucked by demons
>>88106144Discworld Death is based. It's a shame that we won't see more of him.
