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>>88096833>What unit(s) would you squat?Squats. All of em.
>>88096833>>Where mega?>Mega is kill. :(Liar, it works>REBRAND(dot)LY(slash)40KPDFMEGAS
Fuck, I made a thread too late.God damn it, well better to delete it.
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>>88096856Do not worry, it happens all the time.At least you took the time to make one.
>>88096856>>88096865Could repost the picture? I did not saved it.
>>88096833>TQThe entirety of the Primaris range.
Dust in the wind...All we are is dust in the wind.
>>88096873SQUAT MANLETS! GENOCIDE MANLETS !THROW MANLETS INTO THE WARP! FEED MANLETS TO TYRANIDS! WIOE OUT MANLETS GENESEED!
>>88096873>>88096903Why not keeping the firstborn organisation AND the superior wargear and biology of the primaris?
>>88096833I really wish those wankers at GW would update (or add) the rules for Warhammer Legends; some parts need to be revised, even though their entire purpose was to remain static.
>>88096929Because their armour design looks silly, and the masturbatory lore around them has been shoehorned in; almost sickeningly so.
>>88096958>Because their armour design looks sillyThat depends on you, anon.
>>88096929Because Cawl has decided that Devastator squad formations were a bad idea and should be phased out in lieu of half a dozen new squad formations.
>>88096958>look silly>masturbatory lore >shoehorned in>sickeningly soBut enough about marines in general, what is your gripe with primaris specifically?
>>88096929I'd rather do the opposite if I had to do an unholy mix, with firstobrns using primaris tactics and organisation.I think primaris SUCK.
>>88096977>space marines shoehorned in sickingly sonta but elaborate?
>>88096872Sure, here.
>>88096968Shame.
>>88096991Thanks!
>>88096964>That depends on you, anon.No, it would mainly depend on the design team at Citadel, which they been occasionally fucking up.>>88096977Lol, I see your point. But with Primaris to comes to a point that it starts to break canon at time (Sons of Selenar, for instance).
>>88096990do you remember any remotely important narrative where marines aren't somehow included?
>>88097012You don't shoehorn in the main faction/character.Everything revolves around space marines.
Is Xcom Chaos gate any good?
>>88096999>blonde anglo matroninconceivable
>>88097022>they aren't shoehorned>ok, they are, but they can be because they're special
>>88096968>Because Cawl has decided that Devastator squad formations were a bad ideaTrue.That's why he switched to the legion formations like Guilliman decided.
>>88097029You don't know what shoehorned means. It means they are forcefully insert where they shouldn't be. But there are nowhere marines shouldn't be since they are the main faction of 40k.They are not shoehorned in.
>>88097031I don't remember spotting any Eradicators or Hellblasters in the HH army list.
>>88097043
>>88097022>one small branch of the Imperium>involved in everything>(also, never allowed to lose. always come out ahead because cannot upset little timmy)
>>88097043Legion formations just means that marines are acting like aspect warriors.
>>88097056>they're a small part of the imperiumProtagonists tend to be outnumbered by obstacles.>involved in everythingEverything revolves around them to the point you have different flavors of SM, like GKs.>never allowed to loseNot true, but they do win a whole of a lot more, because they are the main faction. It's sad and I don't care because official fluff and narrative is for limp dick baby retards.I don't want to be right, but here I am.
>>88096968>>88097031>>88097043GW will just eventually just take all the current "devastator" primaris, meaning hellblasters, heavy ints, aggressors, eradicators, desolators and then make make a grav-gun/cannon and lascannon primaris, and then shove all of them into one giant bundle box and labeled it as "primaris destroyer squads" or something and then consolidate all their rules and such.Pic not related
>oh protagoni->*gets shot off the board by 3 month old green retard/dinobug with penis gun**smacks lips*U b sayin mon?
>>88097093I don't know why people repeat this shit meme
>>88097100you're a shit meme.
>>88097096>blows up protagonist with mind>bro my fucking protags
>>88096896I like tsons but I cant imagine painting them
>>88097025I love XCom and have over 600 hours on it. Hated Chaos Gate when I first tried it. Persevered though and it is pretty good. Plays a lot differently to XCom so expect a learning curve.Would recommend if you are a fan of XCom.
Tell me something cool about the Mortifactors.
>>88097133They have a cool coloscheme and aren't overplayed
>>88097055Those are both loadouts of the Heavy Support Squad formation, which has many more options besides. Depending on need and preference such squads can be specialized in a number of different ways, as doctrine and organization allows for it. Just because they pick up different guns they don't stop being a Heavy Support squad. The nomenclature is determined by their role as heavy support. But the moment a Hellblaster trades in his Belisarius-pattern plasma Incinerator for a Belisarius-pattern superfrag rocket launcher, he becomes a Desolator. The nomenclature is determined by a gun.
>>88097100He’s an autistic.
>>88097083>Protagonists tend to be outnumbered by obstacles.Allegedy they are rare in-setting. Allegedly.>Everything revolves around them to the point you have different flavors of SM, like GKs.That's a description of what *is,* but not an answer for *why?* "Space Marines... but silver!" (also, more powerfuler, in case regular marines didn't make you feel special enough.)>Not true, but they do win a whole of a lot more, because they are the main faction.Being a "main faction" isn't supposed to mean easy-mode, that's just shit writing. They don't need power armor when they have infinite plot armor. It's a marketing decision to impress children and obese retards.
>>88097153So primaris taking on legion tactics and doctrines was a lie?
>>88097093This won't happen if only because the gravis and tacticus units come in different unit sizes and that's enforced by their sprues. Simply because of that there will never be a single primaris devastator type unit with options for plasma and melta.
>>88097174Why would you take such a retarded post seriously
>>88097169Nah, functionally it's the same.
>>88096873Based and truthpilled
>>88097025>stars the grey knights>doesn't even have any fucking daemons in it
Where the fuck is it?
>>88097169Obviously.
>>88097185>>88097199>the duality of man
>>88097198Every time you ask I personally delay it by 5 days
>>88097198Listen up, retard. It's not going to come out for months because they want people to buy the non-discounted model kits first.
>>88097202>>88097207>bootyblasted primarischoolers pissing and shitting over their World getting Eaten by ChaosChads.
>>88097169>>88097153Literally the only difference is that primaris have a specific name for a Fire Support Squad equipped with plasma.
>>88097212I'll make it 6 this time for daring to call me a primaristard
>>88096838Good answer.>>88096873Better answer.
>>88097133they're cannibals
>>88097131thanks bruh its like 20 dollars on sale.
>>88097219>the primaritoddler bleats in petulant anger as he strikes you.
>>88097256Seven days
How would you call it?
>>88097241For $20, you can't go wrong. Once you figure out how the tricks work, it is a nifty game.
>>88097265>Letting your enemies know where are your medical facilities in a setting where the Geneva convention doesn't existI would call it retarded
>>88096833Question for the space marines fags:How do you keep track of all the units you have access to?
>>88097274doesn't this apply to making white armoured apothecaries in general? the tau explicitly exploited this in one passage by constantly targeting apothecaries and this made a lot of marines mald
>>88096964I can't un-see those knees looking like they're about to lay tile or redo some groutknee guards make them look like a little kid on roller blades at the skate park.
>>88097274Good points.Then again, it is a setting where the most deadly soldiers of the imperium fight on the battlefield in flashy colour and different marking, like red helmet, for important personnel.
>>88097282Yes, but the bigger the target you are painting on your medics the bigger the retardation.
>>88097265Apothecarion (Support? Field?) Rhino
>>88097282>the T'au did thatAren't they supposed to be "honourable"?
>>88097274Ever heard of the Hospitaliers back in the times of the crusades? Who had a specific uniform?
>>88097274>Geneva convention doesn't existIt does. An unlivensed scavenger servitor found a copy of it in an sewer on Holy Terra. It was seized by the Eccle as a holy relic.
>>88097265Savior
>>88097265Tardwagon
>>88097302no the tau outright eschew concepts like 'honour' in war, which makes sense when the other side won't be honourable eitherThe space marines got mad because they were like "noooo that's dishonourable ahhh" but the tau actually capture enemy combatants (except when it's retarded, like they don't capture orks or space marines except for interrogation) instead of always killing them all so they're still more honourable than marinetards lol
>>88097310I will not even check if it's true, I want to believe.
>visit FW for the first time>1200€ airplanes>600€ knights>300€ tanks>20€ for 10 heads>20€ for 10 shoulder pauldrons (not 10 pairs, literally just10 pauldrons)>20€ rhino doorsWhat the fuck are they thinking?Hahahahaha!
>>88097331some people keep buying themsell 10 for 3 euros, you get 30sell 1 for 35, you get 35It's mathematiks
>>88097307The Hospitaliers weren't medics dude.
>>88097256How does it feel watching your beloved manlets betray you again and again?
>>88097331so you're right about their retardedly high prices but that that airplane is the manta (i think it's the only one that's that amount) and that thing is fucking massiveunfortunately enough people buy from them to have made entire side games where you have to buy from them to play lmao
>>88097321>except for interrogationHow the fuck would you interrogate a space marine as a T'au?
>>88097338No but they had hospitals and did charity.They are a specific order and want to wear their colors proudly.What I was trying to show is that thinking of 40k with the mindset modern warfare is retarded, that's not how 40k operates, not SMs at least.So rhinos of the apothecarion being in big flashy white is not "tactically sound" but the point is flying the colours of your order.
>>88097350>unfortunately enough people buy from them to have made entire side games where you have to buy from them to play lmaoWhat?
>>88097365A Rhino in big flashy white is literally doing the opposite of flying the colours of the order. If it was flashing the colours of the order it would be in standard chapter livery
>>88097355they use mind reading worms to do it. usually the space marine is locked in a chamber like in xcom>>88097370the entire horus heresy game originated as a forgeworld game. every usable model was from forgeworld
>>88097379Retard the "order" being the apothecarion.Are you autistic or just retarded?
>>88097321>"marinetards">Immune to mind control hormones.>Somehow they're the "Tards"Stay mad forever fish-boi
>>88097383>Uses Knights Hospitaliers as an example>Somehow the equivalence knightly order = chapter eludes himAre you ok anon?
>>88097408>uses hospitaliers as an exampleOf people who did charity/medical help wearing specific colors, yes>I thought you meant chapterYou thought wrong>are you okayYes, are you, autistico-retardo-rambo?
>>88097350Isn't the manta like 2000€?I was talking about the space marine airplanes.
>>88097406the mind control hormones only work on tau you loreletmarines are immune to them because regular humans are immune to them, this is like saying that it's special that dogs are immune to cat sex pheremones
>>88097431>Of people who did charity/medical help wearing specific colors, yesAgain, Hospitaliers weren't medics dude. They didn't do that.
>>88097437>the mind control hormones only work on tau you loreletThe mind control hormones aren't even confirmed, who is the lorelet now, fag?
>>88097462>ethereal orders tau woman to kill herself even though she doesn't want to>she does itwow i guess there's no mind control there...
>>88097459>they weren't medicsGo and scroll up see where I said they were medics. I take you're autistic AND retarded.
>see Hospitallers mentioned>addled marinebrain connect the term to the obscure Imperial Fists successor before the actual knightly orderAlthough I should probably have thought of the sororitas order before these guys.
>>88097502Wraiths are so cool.
>>88097501As long as hearing templars doesn't make you think of BTs before the actual templars, you're good.
>>88097487>99% of the order is guys who fight>1% also do charity work, while still wearing the colours of the guys who fight>This is a great example for how the guys that do medical work should not wear the same colours of the guy who fightI think you just made a very bad example that actually went against the point you were trying to make, and now you are trying to grab at straws to justify it while being overly aggressive because of your mistake being pointed out.
>26 posters >105 repliesThat's a hell of a lot of samefagging I sure hope you aren't one of them
>>88097273thanks anon
>>88097530>I don't get it>it's your faultAyy retardo
>>88097533Ben, samefag less.
>>88097550Dude just admit you choose a bad example and move on
>>88097502>>88097509
Guys if I paint my AdMech pure white will they look like an army of space KKK?Do you think i'll have enough plausible deniability to get away with it?
>>88097565Get away with what? Making fun of Catholics?
>>88097565Thats just a boring Metallica, nothing more
>>88097565Why would someone think that
>>88097464You literally read that on the same reddit thread I googled that says it's merely implied. God youre a dumb cunt.
>>88096833It's strange look at this and remembering all those captain datasheets were barely half a pape total when they were just wargear options for a "captain"
>>88097575>He admitted visiting reddit.I'm going to have to ask you to leave
>>88097573Because I like racism, technology, and mysticism and I want to combine all 3 of them into my faction of choice.
>>88097575NTA but while it's true that it has never been outright said it's been implied very very strongly. I mean the Farsight enclave literally split from the empire because they were left too long without an ethereal. And we know for a fact that the ethereals have pheromones because Shadowsun was able to recognize a Callidus because of her lack of those.
>>88097601No I mean, why would someone look at white robes and think of the Ku Klux Klan.
If you could add any new faction to the game, what would it be, and what kind of niche would it fill? I keep hearing that Skaven would be fun, but I don't see it - partially because the game already has several horde armies, but also because they don't have much else going for them that would set them apart from any other Chaos forces other than being ratmen.
>>88097563I was just annoyed and now I'm concerned.If you are so autistic that you can't wrap your head around the comparison with knights hospitliers because you're stuck on the idea they are not literal 40k apothecaries because you wrongly thought it was part of the comparison, it's not my fault, you are just retarded.Now kindly fuck off, you're the one who can't move on and need someone to take the blame for your failure.
>>88097613If I could, I wouldn't.
>>88097613>new factionNice try james but I can't trust you with the good stuff.
>>88097609Because the KKK wears white robes?
>>88097174They can change the rules easily, or just load more sprues into the box, it's not hard.
>>88097464No? There's nothing necessarily supernatural about weebs ordering their subordinates to stab themselves. Its all cultural conditioning.
>>88097625Retard
>>88097615Oh wow ahahahahahaha
>>88097462>The mind control hormones aren't even confirmed
>>88097601Every faction has racist technomysticism.
>>88097622This is why people hate 'americans', they hijack everything and turn it into shit because of their obsession with race and their proselytism.This used to be a bong game.
Hazard stripes are gay
GW makes such strange business decisions sometimes. They introduce a bunch of new things that nobody asked for (but a lot of people bought), catered to nostalgiagrogs by putting out Necromunda, Squats and Genestealer Cults as well as new Sisters of Battle, brought back the Horus Heresy setting with a bunch of plastics but at the same time decided to remove a shitload of resin things from FW without replacing them with any plastic equivalents. So much has been lost, never to come back. I do not understand this - wouldn't it be sensible from a business standpoint to replace the products before they're gone forever? And that's not even mentioning the many, many figures that have been removed from the regular webstore without any warning whatsoever. It's almost like they WANT third-party creators to fill the niche, but that would mean lost profits. Saturation? Bloat?Pardon for my poor English, I am ETL.
>>88097622I guess KKK are the only guys with white robes around where you live?
>>88097613A Haemonculus Coven army is already basically Skaven. Half their units are commonly converted from skaven as it is.
>>88097648>pic unrelated
>>88097658Elves are gayer than Skaven.
>>88097654>nobody asked for Necromunda, Squats and Genestealer Cults as well as new Sisters of Battle
>>88097645Used to be. You can blame most of the writing shift from tongue-in-cheek parody to gun-wank supremacists on the slow turn to Americans being the larger target audience
>>88097648You just don't get it.
>>88097677I know, I hate the american market.
>>88097645Yeah but the British are a nation of faggots and 40K is the only good thing to come out of that anus of country in over a hundred years.
>>88097657I fucking wish
Who wins?
>>88097696
>>88097629I accept your concession.
>>88097668These are dark elves my friend. Night and day from regular elves.Tell me why you think elves are gay and I'll tell you why these guys are the opposite of them.
>>88097680I get it.
>>88097712Yeah but Runescape is shit.I just like GIFS with big penises because they're funny.
>>88097724Come out with your hands up.
>>88097710Well if the knife-ear wins then marinefags would throw an insane hissyfit and probably set GW HQ and Nottingham on fire, so the one to job has to be the Eldar.
>>88097654What do you know about their business that you can call that a strange business decision?Some stuff they removed probably didn't sell well or at all, so it wouldn't make sense releasing a plastic version of something that didn't sell before pulling the original model.
>>88097715>A bunch of shirtless dudes in gimp masksEven gayer than normal elves.
>>88097596that's a big cope
>>88097743Yes but hard gay instead of effeminate gay
>>88097736>Well if the knife-ear wins then marinefags would throw an insane hissyfit and probably set GW HQ and Nottingham on fireI've never wanted the Eldar to win so badly until this moment
>>88097743there is nothing manly than dominating another man
>>88097331The only model I'd get from them is the Cerastus Knight and that would only be to have a different knight that plays different from the rest of the army. But even then third party recasts are available now. So there's less need for FW.FW started as a way to make obscure models to order. The resin casting was viable for this, especially while pewter was being phased out. This way the five people on earth who liked Krieg (at the time, before nu-fans and wwi century coverage made them a meme), could have their models, and things like Baneblades and Titans could be made without massive costs by scaling up their production. FW is being phased out now so there's less need for them. That's why GW's been printing plastic Krieg, for example. And why Horus Heresy turned into a whole game with an updated plastic range. I imagine FW is going to be killed off. And it'll become a footnote and the models will become a curiosity. Beards will say "hey remember when you got that resin tank from FW and you had to warm up the guns to straighten them out because they bent during shipping?" And other nonsense we had to put up with back then.And they're overpriced because there isn't an economy of scale for them. You're paying 1200 euros for a silly plane because you're basically paying a dude in a shed to pour out each sprue for you. Compared to a factory that process is expensive. But it works for centerpiece models and little conversion pieces.
>>88097736>Even as they cope Eldarfags admit they'll never winAmazing.
>>88097676Reading comprehension isn't your strongest side, I gather.
>20 hearthkyn warriors w/ bolters>1cp strat for 2 additional exploding 6s>Subfac rule to get +1 to hit after losing 1 model>Medipack>5++ and rerolls from high kahl>Fortify for +1 toughness and 6+ fnpHow do you deal with it? I did a game with these and thought they'd get shredded in melee, but thunder wolves only killed 3 when they got into melee then got ass blasted in return because judgement
>>88097786FW still fulfills a function making models for specialist games and upgrade kits for HH/specialist so I don't think they're going anywhere quite yet.
>>88097816>1WSmite repeatedly.
>>88097786>I imagine FW is going to be killed off.I doubt it. It's been how many years since they last released a new model that wasn't an upgrade kit for HH or something for a specialist game? Which was the last book they made? GW has them basically as the niche upgrade division, and they will probably keep them like that going forward.
>>88097816I pull out my glock
>>88097816>but thunder wolves only killed 3How where they equipped? Because if they were going with the classic TH and SS then it's literally the worst weapon to send against them. They are 1W 4+ models, you need anti-infantry not antitank.
>>88097821>>88097830I think you two are right, and it doesn't necessarily contradict what I said. It'll be around for now in that capacity, and they'll keep the big models up for sale because they can just make them on demand. It's not going to happen within the next few years, but I think it will happen. Especially if GW adopts 3D printing for conversion pieces.
>>88097816>thunder wolves only killed 3Nigga send your van vets or sky caws against them
IMPERIAL KNIGHTS TRANSPORTS WHEN!!?? MY BIG BOYS ARE TIRED OF WALKING!!! WHY ARE KNIGHTS THE ONLY FACTION WITHOUT A TRANSPORT!!?
https://spikeybits.com/2023/03/tau-blast-through-the-scorched-earth-open-40k-army-lists.htmlWhy am I being retarded on this Crisis BGEach come with a single burst cannon that can be replaced by up to 3 systems- list has 4*; BC, CIB, PR and SG on all? Is that a Borkan thing or have I been more retarded than usual
>>88097613space slanni with servant races including ayylmamazons and lesser crorcsexodites with their space dinosaurs and usable death world floracroneworld eldar walking the fine line between being chaotics AND eldar allieszoats with protonids, dominators and enslaved death world faunaimperial rebels with senseis, rogue traders and xenos outlaws and mercsgreys with flying saucers, shape-shifting reptilians and mantis peoplegrot revolution with metal slug and mars attack looks and allied jellyfish-fungidarkmek with cyberdemons, corrupted AIs and chaos xenos artificersmortal traitors with guards, mutants, beastmen and techwarriors(not marines)tau auxilias as a spin-off faction, rather than being redundant units in tau armiesfull-blown men of iron bridging the votann, admech, necron and matrix looks
>>88097849Admittedly, when my opponent is saying the weapon names I rarely remember it. Considering the output, it was most likely THs, which were left after the other squad of wolves with the opposite weapon (he had 1 unit for each type) got blasted off the board
>>88097761Yeah, that'd be some news.>>88097790Hey, at least I am not delusional.
>>88097613I don't want anything from fantasy/aos. I want completely new xenos, and when I say completely new I mean it, not something that's already in the fluff like hrud or zoats or whatever.
>>88097890Wait no am retarded they're just regular crisis
>>88097712runescape genuinely is garbage. that was the fortnite before fortnite existed. overrated garbage with terrible gameplay.
>>88097875let me tell you how IK transports should look like: literally just a retinue of heralds, cherubs and mechadamsels following the knight and occasionally uplifting it with chains and A-grav archetotech
>>88097680we get it, perturabo and iron warriors players are autistic.
>>88097934honestly that would be sick as hell for a diorama but an absolutely ludicrous model.They'd probably do deep strike for knights at some point if anything. Transport models for giant robots would be an insane size.
>>88097934It should be retinue of heralds, cherubs and mechadamsels constantly putting logs in front of the knight so he rolls forward like Egyptians building a pyramid.
>>88097648roughly 55% of IFfags wish they could have or integrate the iron warriors color schemethe other 45% lie or are in denial out of factional principlesalso 80% of IWfags wish they weren't chaotics
>>88097934>>88097875https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3fd87VlvIwI'm pretty okay with this
>>88097954>absolutely ludicrous model.I'm not suggesting to have a model of a knight held in the air, I'm suggesting making a number of smaller models on their own individual bases carrying chains or equipment suggesting that they could carry a knightbonus points if when put close to each other properly this retinue of models form the vague silhouette of folded wings, cape and halo for a knight
>>88097613I would bring back the Yu'Vath and make them a playable faction. I think they fill a neat role in that they use warp based technology, but don't seem to get influenced by the warp.
>>88097613Something fucking weird, alien or machine-like.
>>88098013>>88098050Once you make it a playable faction it'll suck all the mystery out of it.
>>88097613>I keep hearing that Skaven would be fun, but I don't see it - partially because the game already has several horde armies, but also because they don't have much else going for them that would set them apart from any other Chaos forces other than being ratmen.I don't want them either, because their entire niche and idea is already taken by the GSC. GSC literally are just skaven, not rats essentially and some existential eldritch alien god shit mixed in.I personally think that we don't need more armies for 40k at this point, GW can't even really keep up with all the stuff it's producing now. Like just go to their webstore and check any of the 40k ranges and you'll notice that how much of the products are out of stock completely.I think most niche alien stuff could work as Kill Team stuff, I think that'd be neat and give many of them the spotlight, though it'd mean there wouldn't whole lot of units, but you gotta make trade offs.In a perfect world we would have all the alien races and whatever in 40k as full armies with multiple kits and all factions and subfactions would also have bunch of upgrade kits to use as well.But this is not a perfect world sadly.But if I had to bring in an alien race as an army, I'd probably go with Slann or variation of them. So basically alien lizardmen/frogmen that are lead by the Old Ones, I guess, and maybe throw some dragons there kinda like in DnD.I don't fucking know man.
>>88097613>If you could add any new faction to the game, what would it be, and what kind of niche would it fill?Skaven. It would be a mix between Orks and GSC, with a Chaos twist.
>>88098050>UmbraMore like the CUMsphere.
>>88098114those halberds on the stormvermin look really off as far as perspective goes. I don't know what it is, but my eyes hate them.
>>88098107the imperium are skaven desu
I think tabletop game companies should just make rule systems, and let proxies be legal, and then if they offered official models, that would just be something fun big fans could buy just like other merch like t-shirts, etc.Then they could focus on rules, and make a bunch of factions because they wouldn't have to actually support making the models.
>>88098150This is a pathetic forced meme, just like many others.
>>88098150Only furfags ever say this.
New player interested in running an army of all giant monsters, what's the best faction that would allow me to accomplish this?>inb4 knights / chaos knightsThose are mechs, not monsters.>inb4 chaos daemonsThose are demons, not monsters.>inb4 tyranidsThose are bugs, not monsters.
>>88098155They wouldn't make any money either.
>>88098164in what world do furfags say the imperium are skaven and not 'why doesn't 40k have a sexy race of rats for me to beat off to'
>>88098187false dichotomy, you just said both
I have the sprue for the femoid magus from the genestealer combat patrol box, but I already have the male one and don't really like her design as is anyway. What character should I convert her to and how?I already have a patriarch, magus, primus, and reductus saboteur. I'm thinking about a nexos but not sure how to do the table.
>>88098204Add another arm, a cape and a cowboy hat for a sexy Kelermorph.
>>88098204>What character should I convert her to and how?Into the GSC's top breeding slave.
>>88098171What fits your narrow definition of a monster then?Do giant flesh crafted horrors count?Huge Orks?Possessed and daemon spawn?
>>88098171>>inb4 knights / chaos knights>Those are mechs, not monsters.Fair.>>inb4 chaos daemons>Those are demons, not monsters.Eh kinda wrong.>>inb4 tyranids>Those are bugs, not monsters.Fuck you retard.
>>88098092Fair enough. Granted they've kept Tyranids pretty mysterious for the most part, but looking how Necrons went from mysterious, to Tomb Kings in space that's a legit concern. (I actually don't mind the Nu-crons since there was too much overlap with the nids having two mysterious factions that just silently killed worlds, but I do think fleshing out the necrons killed their spookiness.)
>>88096833>What unit(s) would you squat?Honestly, I just would want to combine the Company Veterans, Vanguard Veterans and Sternguard Veterans into one unit. I'm genuinely surprised they haven't don't it, already, actually - just have them be one unit, with the ability to take a specialization, like they did way back when. 'Honor Guard' for your bodyguarding company vets. 'Vanguard' for close combat, 'Sternguard' for your ranged. Throw in another one or two, and you'd be good.
>>88098204paint the inside of the collar like a screen with flows of datareplace the head, or add to it, with something like a visor and tubes, tubes are always coolchange the staff with arms that have something practical, like tools, communicators or tubes, tubes are always coolplace in front of her any technological-looking thingamabob and just on top of it a helmet or head of an enemy model painted like it's an hologramideally with a red target painted on the hologramalso tubes on the thingamabob
>>88098268It's because they used to be one unit iirc
>>88098171I think you're in the wrong thread mate. /aosg/ is a couple doors down.
>>88098231No, those are giant flesh crafted horrors, huge orks, and possessed demon spawn, not monsters. I'm looking for something like the dread saurian from age of sigmar, or the giant necron spider.>>88098244I'm right though.
>>88098250>Granted they've kept Tyranids pretty mysterious for the most partNot really, we already know why they are here, it's the Pharos shit that drew them in. And yes, I know the Astronomican shit, but it is a fact in canon that the light of the Astronomican does not reach beyond the galactic rim, that's why it is so dangerous to make warp jumps on the galactic rim since the Astronomican's light is so faint and hard to see.Meaning it could never been the thing that pulled in the Tyranids, though once they entered the galaxy, then they've started to follow it. But before that the only thing that drew them in was the Pharos beacon.Still tho, they are not as mysterius as people think, they are literally just animals with an animalistic hivemind that only wants to eat.What's the most likely thing and origin for Tyranids is that they are essentially just a galagtic version of wildebeasts, but visit galaxies every couple of million years.Meaning they just eat whatever and once the resources and food has been exhausted in one area, they move into somewhere else, and it is possible that the Milkyway Galaxy was going to be next one in their list anyway.
>>88098295>I'm right though.Nah.
>>88098295the giant necron spider is a robot retardif you want that you can make a list of large necron units and the tripods from war of the worlds if you want
>>88098295>'m looking for something like... the giant necron spider.That's a bug and a mech, not a monster.
>>88098218Great idea and would have done this but I love the kelermorph model too much to make my own.>>88098287I'll probably end up trying something like this, thanks. Hologram / target idea sounds really cool but I'll prob fuck it up bc I'm shit at drawing fine details.
>>88098307No those would be tripods from war of the worlds, not monsters. What is so hard to understand about this, if I went for a war of the worlds theme we are right back to alien invaders and no different from any other non imperium 40k army. >>88098309Spiders are arachnids, not bugs, and therefore qualify as monsters.
>>88096999im impressed anyone actually bought this
>>88098338based retard
>>88098338cringe based retard
>>88098330>I'm shit at drawing fine details.it's more of a matter of color schemes than freehanding, I imagine
>>88097613Old Ones as lizardmen. Make them really good at close range shooting / melee but slow and awful at range. Then have good psykers for movement tricks to make it work. GW sells twice as many models as a result bc people start buying seraphon models to kitbash.
>>88098338Do a Necron Canoptek Tomb Warden army then.Have a bunch of bugs that aren't bugs.
>>88098338Arachnids are bugs you 5'4'' pile of retarded raccoons
>>88098363Bro that is a giant robot, not a monster. Jesus Christ.
>>88098338What proportion of monsters to the rest of your army is acceptable to you? Based on your increasingly narrow trolling I am beginning to think the only thing that fits your desires are Squigs. So you could play an Ork army that maximizes the amount of Squigs. Your options for units are:>Beastboss on Squigosaur>Squighog Boyz>Nob on Smasha Squig>Kill Rig (squig drawn chariot)>Hunta Rig (squig drawn chariot)>Squiggoth>Gargantuan Squiggoth
>>88098363>>88098338Also, the Seraptek has Six legs and therefore is technically an insect and therefore a bug and therefore not a monster.
>>88098338>>88098363Centipedes are bugs, they are part of the insect group of animals.
the correct words for bugs is insects, we are in a british thread
You are privileged to witness the birth of a new god.
New player interested in running an army of all vehicles, what's the best faction that would allow me to accomplish this?>inb4 knights / chaos knightsThose are walkers, not vehicles.>inb4 Imperial GuardThose are tanks, not vehicles.>inb4 OrksThose are cars, not vehicles.
>>88098391Vashtorr will never become a god.They just released him a completely new plastic miniature.He's going to stay as demi-god methlord of the Forge of Souls and basically be Bela'kors roommate.
>>88098364"Spiders are neither bugs (Hemiptera) nor insects (Insecta) but a class all their own – Arachnida, or arachnids. This Class includes not just spiders; but scorpions, mites and ticks as well.">>88098382I assumed the shoulder cannons counted as legs, but if they do not then you are correct it is not a monster and is disqualified from consideration.>>88098381This is a reasonable idea but unfortunately the orks on the squigs kinda defeat them being monsters because they are domesticated. Do you think I would be accepted if I cut off the orks from the squig models and ran homebrew rules for a Squig faction?
>>88098338>>88098171What about wraith lords?They're technically golems made of bone with a bound soul, a classic monster construct.
>>88098402I dunno, try space marines?They wear power armor which is kind of like a vehicle, but is neither a tank or a car or walker.
>>88098406>They just released him a completely new plastic miniature.Will become Greater Daemon of Vashtorr.
This thread now belongs to the Dark Gods.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKfMW9hLYIY
>>88098402Car are vehicles though.
>>88098428No they're not, they're in a class of their own. A vehicle has eight wheels.
>>88098410Based retard.
>>88098402>>88098434this is some SM don't have bones level of nonsense
>>88098391>no rapturous death cry of a whole race of psykers at their peak>just sidequest-tier nameless artifacts collectingat least give me a mass awakening and maddening of machine spirits and servitors providing some kind of consequence and gravitas to the act
>>88098410"Bug" is not a genus it's a catch-all term for any kind of creepy crawlySpiders are creepy crawliesYou are wrong
>>88098417>Will become Greater Daemon of Vashtorr.Nope.It's just Vashtorr and will forever be that.
So now that people are posting a bunch of loony shit, I figure I should ask a second time for paint scheme inspiration for Imperial Knights. I just got back into 40k this year and I decided to go with them for my army. I'm magnetizing and assembling them now, but I want to do a variety of paint schemes. If any of you have knight models and conversions to post, I'd appreciate it. Thanks.
>>88098406>>88098417Vash has no business becoming a Chaos God, they already have the iconic 4 and that's more than enough.
>>88098415Power armor is not a vehicle. Why is this so hard to understand?
>>88098445Yeah that might be true except spiders aren't creepy (unless you are a little girl) they're friendly and rid the house of bugs, therefore they are not bugs.
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Vashtorr will become the Chaos God of Autisim, since autists feel inhuman emotions.
New player interested in running an army of all wizards, what's the best faction that would allow me to accomplish this?>inb4 Grey KnightsThose are psykers not wizards.>inb4 Thousand SonsThose are Sorcerers, not Wizards.>inb4 Tzeentch DemonsThose are demons, not wizards.
>>88098449Green knight from old warhammer
>>88098410>they are domesticatedOnly in the loosest of terms, they are as liable to eat their handlers as they are to obey them. Here is a list for your consideration:Codex Orks: Snakebites Arks of Omen detachment, 3x Heavy Support compulsory choices*HQ*Beastboss on Squigosaur, Thump Gun - 165*Fast Attack*6x Squighog Boyz, Bomb Squig - 1556x Squighog Boyz, Bomb Squig - 155*Heavy Support*Kill Rig - 190Kill Rig - 190Kill Rig - 190Squiggoth, Kannon - 165Squiggoth, Kannon - 165Squiggoth, Kannon - 165*Lord of War*Gargantuan Squiggoth, Squiggoth Supa-kannon - 460*Total - 2000 points*
>>88098449Imperial Knights are mechs, not monsters.
>>88098449r/imperialknights or something
>>88098449I fucking love Imperial Knights.
>>88098449^
>>88098459>they're friendlyThey're cunts who leave untidy webs all over the place, but especially in harder to reach spots. They are absolutely the worst bugs short of termites.
New player interested in running an army of all humans, what's the best faction that would allow me to accomplish this?>inb4 imperial guardThose are soldiers, not humans.>inb4 space marinesThose are marines, not humans.>inb4 votannThose are incels, not humans.
>>88098410If you're already willing to get into custom modelling I would recommend just making your own proxy Tyranids army. There's a lot of things you could make that count as a carnifex and that gives you a ton of leeway to make whatever kind of giant mythical beast you desire.I just assumed you wouldn't be up for a lot of conversion work because you said you were new but it sounds like you have history with AoS. Unfortunately 40k doesn't really use fantasy monsters in the same way and mostly uses vehicles and robots to fill the same niche in a sci-fi flavor
>>88098470Thank you for being the only one to provide a real answer. Absolutely unreal that people in this thread don't understand what a monster is, or know the difference between spiders and bugs. Literal 5th grade tier knowledge.
>>88098495You know that squigs are mushrooms right?
>>88098484<Your Dudes>>>88098468<Your Dudes>>>88098402<Your Dudes>>>88098171<Your Dudes>
>>88098473I'll check the reddit but I don't have an account.>>88098478das it mane, I like the scratches. Looks like the knight came out of a huge battle wit minor damage.>>88098479I am nowhere near that skill with freehand, but wow that does look great.>>88098469Bits of flock on top of a green paint scheme could do the trick. I like the idea of a green knight kind of scheme. Especially cause knights can all be different characters with names and stories.
>>88096896Well technically you're dust in a suit of armor. If said armor could fly then I guess it would be dust in the wind.
New player interested in running an army of all women, what's the best faction that would allow me to accomplish this?>inb4 Sisters of BattleThose are nuns, not women.>inb4 Sisters of SilenceThose are mute nuns, not humans.>inb4 howling bansheesThose are knife-ears, not women.
>>88098487Good idea but I'd have to run them as tyranids and then they'd have bug rules instead of monster rules.
Is there an Imperial Guard regiment that rely heavily on Psykers?
>>88098524All female guardsmen army led by all the new female HQ sculpts with allied inqusitior greyfax and all female voidsmen sculpts and optional Assassin or Starstriders female sculpts.
>>88098524Tyranids
>>88098537>All female guardsmen army led by all the new female HQ sculpts with allied inqusitior greyfax and all female voidsmen sculpts and optional Assassin or Starstriders female sculpts.Those are all soldiers, not women.It's like you didn't even read my post.
>>88098529Those are not psykers they are witches
>>88098529No one in the Imperium can rely on Psykers of any real power in large numbers because they are compartively rare and only organizations that recruit from thousands of worlds can acquire them in any great number.
>>88098545Those are bugs, not women.
>>88098555Women are bugs.
>>88098244Samefag less than you do, ben.
>>88098509Mushrooms are monsters.
>>88098565>Mushrooms are monsters.No, they are fungi.They actually also have chitin, just like insects making them bugs, meaning they aren't monsters either.
New player interested in running an army of all transhumans, what's the best faction that would allow me to accomplish this?>inb4 Space MarinesThose are suoersoldiers, not transhumanist.>inb4 Adeptus MechanicusThose are cyborgs, not transhumanist.>inb4 NecronsThose are transnecrontyrist, not transhumanist.
>>88098559fuck off destinyfag
>>88098593>Those are transnecrontyrist
>>88097984Dawn of War3 wasn't all bad.
>>88097122this is the most agreeable statement you can make on 40kg. I have pic related, and I really like it, but holy fuck am I dreading painting it...
>>88098632>Dawn of War3 wasn't all bad.
>>88098645Bigger models are easier to paint, honestly.Unless you meant the rubric marines. Yeah fuck that.
>>88098565No, Fungi are monsters
New player interested in running an army of all robots>inb4 NecronsThose are Tomb Kings, not robots>inb4 admechThose are cyborgs, not robots>inb4 VotannThose are dwarf fuckers, not robots
>>88097122I like TSons and I can imagine painting them.Which is why I don't have any.
>>88098655Magnus actually looks easy to paint well but it is the Rubrics
>>88098171>>88098338The only thing worse than this fucking subhuman are the people responding to him. You'd all rather get into bitchmode slapfights about classification (unironically autistic behavior) than have actual discussions about the hobby. You're the reason I don't tell people I play 40k, the reason everyone makes fun of us, and I hate you.
>>88098632At least Taldeer gets a new body and his brother’s story arc is complete.https://youtu.be/MuWmTWH2pQg
>tfw posting from my phone while at work, while dropping a fat Lorgar in the shitter
these are cool. orks in tattoo flash style.
>>88097122>>88098645>>88098663>>88098655>>88098670Painting TS rubrics is easier than you think.https://youtu.be/G5NjILq-IsE
>>88098709>yfw that Lorgar jump back into your ass because it needs something to worship.
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>>88098713>>88098733Love em. More?
I hate abaddon so much. >blessed by the gods>yet rejects him because he's just that coolWho the fuck wrote this shit? ADB?
>>88098632DOW3AHHHHHHHHHHH
>>88098746no more 40k. just a couple night goblins.
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>>88098802
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>>88098761It's been the lore for "big chaos dude" since Fantasy, Archaon does the same shit and Abaddon is just a sci-fi clone of him. It's why he seems so lame, because every time he did something for decades, it was just because he was mimicking what they had the big chaos idiots doing in fantasy.
>>88098728>Battle ready
>>88098761abaddon is literally more of a sigismund simp than anyone else in the setting dude
>>88098843Man, I wish they had Eldar characters mimicking some of the Fantasy Elf characters.Where's our Malekith?
>>88098843Abaddon pre-dates Archaon.
>>88098529No as the Astra Miliguardem are completely separated from the Adeptus Astra Telepathica and other organizations that handle psykana 11
>>88098150Nah, chinkhay is a direct equivalent of Imperium down to God-Emperor and his superhero kids leading armies in his absence.
>>88098888>Where's our Malekith?Vect.
>>88098895not his characterization
>>88098957not a real faction
>>88098979Yes, actually, it does.
>>88098970New model when?
>>88098761>Who the fuck wrote this shit? ADB?Yes. Don't forget about all that 'Abaddon is better than Horus' crap.
>>88098986Feel free to post anything about being in defiance of the gods before archaon did it>inb4 it's implied in the mark, even if that only gained that meaning long after archaon
>>88099025>Yes. Don't forget about all that 'Abaddon is better than Horus' crap.To be fair, Abaddon is better than Horus.He ain't dead for one.
>>88098999I think vect should just die to move commorragh beyond the stillness imposed by his rule
Tell me about your crusade characters and units.
>>88098843The big difference is that Archaon was a new guy in the setting. He wasn't the same chaos leader that assaulted the Empire for ten thousand years but this time it will surely succeed.
>>88099029Do you even know when Archaon started that?
>>88098843>big chaos dudeBig Chaos dude, who uses Chaos powers, but don't serve to the Dark Gods. He do what he want, but his and Chaos' goals are aligned. He doesn't really respect Dark Gods, but still making deals with daemons. It looks not good. If they wanted to show independent human being, who challenging the Gods, they had Sigmar and the God-Emperor for this. But instead we have Marty Sues Abaddon and Archaon who do the same thigs but better.
>>88099043Plot armor doesn't make one character better than anoher.
>>88099093The emperor wasn't exactly challenging the gods from his golden portapotty. The stupid 'emperor talks to everyone and casts magic across the galaxy' shit is cringe nu-lore
>>88099107>Plot armor doesn't make one character better than another.Mechanically it sure does. Everyone and their mother wants some of that Baddabon on their CSM side
>>88099113He tried to cut humanity from warp. No warp travels, but travels throug the Web, no astropaths but another ways to communicate. It's just another challenge.
>>88099107>Plot armor doesn't make one character better than anoher.Still not dead. Unlike Horus.
>>88099151Let's see if he can fail three for three, 37000 years to plan only to fail harder than anyone in the setting
I just bought Saturn 2Soon I will be free
>>88099091yes, after archaon
>>88098999He needs a centrepiece model like Katakros, or the Triumph of St Katherine.Maybe him, 2 Incubi, an Archon ( head of security), and a couple more deldar lackeys.
>>88099243Literally all that, but also on a bit boat. Like a plastic Tantalus.
>>88099147*laughs in C'than*
>>88099243And the 2 sex slaves. One will be a dude
>>88098957they don't even exist. They're a pretend-faction invented for a video game just so GW could simp for the chinese vidya market.China never mattered in WFB for even one second, not from the start of time and not even until the planet was destroyed.
>>88099267ctan have the ultimate plot armor, being the lamest thing in such a lame faction that they're never even included in any books so they can't even job to space marines.
>>88098980>>88099291They are still 1 to 1 equivalent of an IoM
>>88099289>implying implicationsthe sororita is actually is hiding a knife behind her back. It's a neat little bit of storytelling in the scene.
>>88099307>so they can't even job to space marines.I fucking wish
I HATE EDGE HIGHLIGHTING WHY DID I CHOOSE TO PLAY BLACK TEMPLARS
>>880990293rd/4th edition, Gothic War rulebook. Moriana tells Abaddon that the gods would either destroy Abaddon for his disloyalty or he would achieve his goal. Abaddon in 3rd edition has stated t hat he wanted to use the power of Chaos to rule and perhaps become a god, rather than obey the Chaos Gods.Archaon only started defying the gods in 8th ED WHFB. Something very relatively new. Archaon started out as a concept character called Archos who was a true believer in Chaos. Archaon in 6th ED "Hordes of Chaos" believed that the Chaos Gods were the only true gods worthy of his worship. Archaon's god-hating characterization took fuel from his two novels written by Sanders. His new AoS incarnation is heavily inspired by Abaddon's character and from Sander's writing.
>>88099416Duncan does a paint called Death Reaper that's a really dark grey. You could probably use that and shade it with black ink or black legion and skip most of the edge highlighting.
anyone buy from wargame exclusive before? how shit is their resin? looking to get some of their cybork bits to make some pirate orkz and want to know what I'm in for
>>88099422>Archaon started out as a concept character called Archos who was a true believer in Chaos. Archaon in 6th ED "Hordes of Chaos" believed that the Chaos Gods were the only true gods worthy of his worship.This is good. >Archaon's god-hatingThis is dumb. The main servant of the Dark Gods hates them. WTF?
>>88098473Go back nigger
>>88099436Oh my god anon, I'm literally retarded, I have that exact paint on my desk.I'll give that a try.
>>88099447Nobody likes the simp.The creator of Archos/Archaon envisioned that after the End Times, the character would die heartbroken since the Chaos Gods would reveal that they had lied to him and he was ever a deluded fool. He was nothing but a tool rather than an honored champion. He would go to his death with their mocking laughter in his ears.
When it comes to Legionaires, is there a benefit of running them in squads of 5 over a squad of 10?I'm having trouble getting that third troop choice without getting another get of marines or maybe a traitors.I got the Iron Within, but I really want to have Iron Without
>>88099499>He was nothing but a tool rather than an honored champion. He would go to his death with their mocking laughter in his ears.I mean, it's appropriate
>>88099499Still better than alternative.
Man, I cannot catch a fucking break with my Dark Eldar.Still learning how to play but it feels like every single game I either make a minor tactical blunder and get half of my entire army deleted or totally fail on a roll and do jack shit on my melee alpha strike before getting blown off the board on the counter punch.My Incubi have failed to get a single tormentor fight last off in four games. My Archon has failed his 2+ invulnerable save roll super early every time.The only thing pulling it's weight consistently is the Kabalite teams with blasters and the dark lances on the boat, but I was lead to believe shooting was the weak part of the army.It could be because I've only played against power armor teams so far and teams decent in melee (Sisters, Death Guard, BTemplar, and Votann). But I just can't seem to figure out what I'm missing.
>>88099610>But I just can't seem to figure out what I'm missing.Dark Lances.
>>88099322>DOOD LE PORNneck yourself cumbrain
>>88099447>This is dumb. The main servant of the Dark Gods hates them. WTF?Sounds familiar.
>>88099634I have 6 in every list (1 Ravager, 3 Raiders) and they always seem to do a great job. It's just that once the raiders start getting popped then I only have a 50% chance to kill something each turn and the boats can't really hold objectives on their own, even if they are significantly more bulky than all my T3 W1 infantry.
>>88099690>>88099690>>88099690
>>88099508You can pop the spicy book in a squad of 5 and just treat it as a 10W sorcerer with a lascannon, 2 bolters, and a champ
>>88099610>but I was lead to believe shooting was the weak part of the army.For Wyches specifically, sure. But fact is that Dark Lances en mass are about the only thing that has consistantly kept them playable when GW keeps fogetting that they exist.Also general rule with DEldar is that you've won or lost by the end of Turn 2.
>>88099694Didn’t the mods warn you about your discord advertising?
>>88098468Ts is the closest one since sorcery is a catch all for psykers, who use supernatural powers for a different force.Ts could be descrined as warlocks, but a main deal about them is hoarding knowledge and impressive rituals that span worlds. They are a terror to paint, however.
